Translucent Orb Amazes Witnesses at Oakridge, Oregon

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
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just might change the way you see the woods forever.
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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers
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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates
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about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge
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link in the show notes. Thank you all right, pick
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for Society, but the privilege of talking to Michelle Heaton
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from the Sweet Home, Oregon area again. How are you
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doing today? Michelle?
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And generally good?
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How are you hey? Doing well? We're doing a day
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at a time. We got it's two days, seven day
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into treatment, so trying to get used to all the
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wacky stuff.
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And I love your haircut.
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Thank you? Yeah, yeah, thanks. I think I might keep it. Actually,
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after all this is over, it's kind of fun. A
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few notes about Michelle Man. She's got a lot of
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cool stuff going on. We first talked to Michelle back
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about I think that episode came out about ten months ago,
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August or September twenty twenty five. I'd met Michelle at
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Sasquatch Summerfest and she heads up a few things. So
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she heads up the Sweet Home Sasquatch Group, and I
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know I'm saying that wrong. Sweet Home Organ Sasquatch Research Group.
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Yeah, I changed it Jeremiah Sweet Home Sasquatch just because
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it's the other was a mouthful.
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So you've got a great thing going on up there.
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And if people want to get even more to Michelle's story,
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you want to go back and listen to epist. So
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eight ninety eight is the one that came out originally.
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She's also got You're you're involved with a radio station
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out there, right, Michelle, Yeah, yes, I am.
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It's so this is an old show. It's called Strange
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Organ and it was on for quite a while and
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I had a lot of listeners, and then I believe
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somebody passed away. One of the hosts had passed away,
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and it just kind of fizzled out. So the station
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asked actually Priscilla from the Sasquatch Summerfest to do it again,
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and she asked me to co host with her, so
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she and then we did the first episode, and then
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she decided that she just had too much going on.
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It was too much, so she passed it along to
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me and I I didn't even struggle to find a
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co host. I called up Jason Kenzie and right away, yeah,
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right away, he jumped on it. I was like, I
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feel so blessed for that. Jason is such a great guy.
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He's such a great personality, and he has so much
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to add to it. So we haven't aired yet. It's
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on k EPW out of Eugene. It's an FM radio station,
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but we've recorded two episodes. I'm actually going to the
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studio right after this so I can edit those and
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we can get them going.
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Oh wow, and that's ninety seven point three in that area,
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is that right?
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Yeah? Yeah, maybe seven point three. It'll also be on PACIFICA,
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so anywhere in the United States, and I believe it's worldwide.
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They can pull the episodes off from that and air
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them on their own station.
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Oh that's cool, so you might hear it on other
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radios world. Okay, very good. That's fantastic. Is that available online?
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Do you think I.
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Believe it will be? Yeah, okay, I'll post links on
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my personal account and the sweet Home account on Facebook.
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Absolutely. You've also got the it's a really good Facebook
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or sweet Home Sasquatch and then a newer one girl
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Gone Squatching, which is really cool too. That's that's a
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great group.
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Yeah, I'm excited about it. It's something I've been wanting
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to do for a really long time and I finally
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like the girls just came, you know, I opened up
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the group and it's just like I've got a flock
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of these wonderful females who just want to be involved.
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So that's going to be really fun.
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Which you know that that's a whole that's a whole thing.
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The man, we need more of a female voice in
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this this community. And it's just like I'm always like,
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oh my goodness, it's so easy to you know, the
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male voices hear so many, but like need more female
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voices so we can encourage the next generation of you know,
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female researchers and experiencers and like to let them know
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that it's okay to speak up about what they've experienced.
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And so whenever I'm able to get someone like yourself
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Michelle on the show, it's like, oh, thank thank goodness,
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you know, finally have another female voice, which is so
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important in this field.
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It really is. I think, well, thank you very much
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for saying that. I think it's really important to remember that.
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You know, in this in searching for Sasquatch, you know,
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it's a male dominated field, which there's nothing wrong with that,
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it's amazing, But I feel like our feminine qualities kind
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of get lost in that masculinity, and so we feel
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like we need to be like them, and we don't.
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We you know, we have our we have to step
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back into our feminine qualities, and you know, research that way.
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That's how I research.
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You know, sure, sure, absolutely, And I think that you know,
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when you have those female presences out in the field,
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that that can really lead to a lot of experiences
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have happened because those female presents are in the field.
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It's very interesting to look into. You also have released
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a book which is The Dream Guardian Sasquatch in the
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Path of Awakening. Tell me about that.
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Yeah, so I know, we touched a little bit on
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this on my previous episode with you, Jeremiah. It's about
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my dream that I started having when I was five
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and just how it ties in connects to what I'm
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doing now.
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Which is it's a fascinating story. And again episode eight
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ninety eight. I'll have it linked at the end so
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listeners can go check it out after this if you're
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over on YouTube, it'll be easy to do so, and
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I'll put in the show notes too. But man, Michelle,
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what has happened? Has anything cool been happening up in
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Sweet Home since we last talked? I know you're going
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up to that reservoir, the Green Peter Reservoir, and there's
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action going on up there. You're probably hearing all sorts
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of stuff.
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Oh yeah, there's tons of stuff. Actually, there's been a
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lot of really cool new tree structures that are and
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I kind of asked for it too. I was like, okay,
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you know these I'm finding these structures. They're old, they're beautiful.
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You can tell they've been here for quite a while.
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So in December, before I left for my road trip,
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I just voiced to them, you know that when I
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came back, I wanted to have like something new. It's
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like just you know, I wanted to see something different.
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So I came back and it took a couple of
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weeks for me to finally notice that somebody else noticed
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it before I did. But it was right off the trail.
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It was this beautiful structure and it was just so
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intricately designed that and I feel like there's no purpose
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other than it was for me, just the esthetics of it.
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You know, like, look at this as you asked for
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this beautiful structure and here it is, you know, and
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there's it's all around it. It's just absolutely gorgeous.
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Wow.
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That that is really cool when you know, and I
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think there's definitely something uh it's it's definitely a thing.
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You put that out there and you'd be surprised, uh
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what happens. It reminds me of a a recent episode
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where a gentleman was like, yeah, I just want to
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see your footprint, get some audio, and that's what happened.
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I mean, that's what happened. And yeah, when you put
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yourself out there, it is it can be incredible. What
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can happen? Do you ever? You know, not that it's
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come out on the show, but I've been hearing stuff
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from Markola, which is south of you, right.
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Yeah, it's well, yeah, yeah, it is south. It's in
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between me and Eugene, so yeah, it would be south
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to me.
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Okay, do you ever hear stuff from down there?
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I do, I do, and I've I've heard a lot
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of local reports from Mercola. And there's a specific trail
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that I am going to take a look at soon.
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Yeah, awesome, I think, yeah, I bet it might be
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a similar one. There's some areas down there where they
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keep coming up.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely. You mentioned a road trip. Was that a bigfoot
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road trip or yeah?
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Yeah, so it was kind of a bigot. It was
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a personal road trip. It was just kind of like,
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you know, getting back to my roots. I went and
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visited all my childhood friends. I have friends that I
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grew up in Michigan's. I have friends that had moved
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to New Orleans, so I went down there and stayed
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with them for a month. I went over to Tennessee
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and stayed with my friend there for a month, and
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then I went back to Michigan and I stayed in
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Michigan for two weeks because me and Pemma both came
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down with COVID. We were really sick, so is the
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minute that my daughter got I was like, I need
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to go home. This has been a long trip. But
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we did do some research and Tennessee I researched the
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it's called Cherokee National Forest.
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Oh yeah, sure, yeah.
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Beautiful, beautiful tree structures. They're just enormous and almost kind
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of portal ish, kind of you know, like we would.
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There was one in particular that was it was two
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trees on one side of the hill and they were
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crisscrossed and pushed over, and then on the other side
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there was one tree that was pushed over and it
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kind of connected and held the other two up over
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a trail and I could drive under it. It was
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I mean, it blew my mind. And so after I
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sat there for I would say a couple of minutes
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at least just looking at it and thinking, Okay, should
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I drive under it? It happened and I finally I
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was like, whatever, I'm just gonna go. So I went
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underneath it, and instantly it was really weird. It was
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like this pressure in my head. It just kind of
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who did that? And then once we got through it
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and we parked on the other side, of it and
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got out of the car. We can feel this buzzing,
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like you can hear it in your ears. It was
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like almost like a bee buzz and it was just
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it was really it was strange. But that didn't go
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away until after we had drove back under it to
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go out.
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So, oh, man, that is extremely strange. So back in April,
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I had gone gone out to the Smokies and some
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other places and I was I can't say where in
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East Tennessee out of respect to the researcher that I
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was in his area, but I will tell you I
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was pretty close to Cherokee Nash Force and and you
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go into those woods and I, you know, I was
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seeing big old trees and tree structures real high up.
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That was the area where I've got I was out
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there with Robbie Ferrell out in the Laurels and uh,
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we got bluff charged by something. It was it was
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either a bear or was a big foot, and we
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didn't stick around. I was like, oh, so that video
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is going to be coming out eventually. I'm going to
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try to get it out hopefully in the next few months.
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I was like, Oh, that's a new experience.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was weird joke, No, I know
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for sure, for sure.
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So how would you compare the experience of going out
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in the woods big footing in Tennessee where you were,
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to where you are out in Oregon?
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Yeah, it's I mean, it's really not a lot of
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difference aside from, you know, what it looks like and stuff,
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because obviously there are two different places. You've got the
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rainforest and then you have the you know, the Smoky
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Mountains or the Appalachian Mountains. So energetically, I would say
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that the mountains here at last, my area has a
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more calming kind of feel to it. It's really for me. Uh,
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it's it's very relaxing and it's non threatening out there.
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I don't know if it was just because it was
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my first time, my only time, but I definitely felt
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a little more on edge out there, and with the
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weird kind of portally kind of things going on too,
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that definitely affected me. I've never really felt that out
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here in the sweet Home. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, that
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was that was it?
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Really okay? Interesting? Interesting? Have you heard anything recently from
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up in like a Green Peter Reservoir area anything going
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on up there?
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Yeah, there there's a lot of stuff going on out there. Actually,
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I can't remember if I told you or not the
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last time, if it was on the last episode. I've
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had a couple of experiences where I've been kind of
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snuck up on. Did I I can't remember if.
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It was that. Was that at the time where you
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were like driving down and then you had the experience
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in the car. Was at a different time?
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Yeah, No, it was right at Green Peter Reservoir. Actually
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it was right at Giant's door.
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You heard. I don't think I've heard that one.
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Okay, So this was really crazy. So me and then
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two of my research partners, Tim and Eric, we were
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there and we were shining the ridge and and we
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were seeing these orbs. Jeremiah, We've been seeing these a
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lot lately, to these orbs, and they're kind of they're
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about the size of I don't know, maybe a volleyball
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or basketball, and they kind of pulsate a little bit,
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but they're blue. They're all blue. And so we're shining
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up on the ridge and we're seeing some eyeshine animals
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whatever you know, in these orbs. And then my flashlight
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went out and I turned around and I was paying
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attention to something else. Super dark out too, by the way,
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and Eric says, Michelle, look, he's got his flashlight shining
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up on the ridge. And I looked and I saw
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something and I don't know what it was. I couldn't
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make it out. It was just movement to me, and
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I said, what wasn't He said, it was a sasquatch.
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It stood up. It was like in a squatting position
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on the ridge, and it looked like a rock and
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it stood straight up and it looked down at us,
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and it turned around and walked away. So I was like,
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that's awesome. That would be Eric's first sighting ever. You know,
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I'm super excited for him. So him and Tim are
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over here and they're discussing something, and then I see
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him start walking down the road and I'm like, wait,
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where are you guys going, don't leave me here, and
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they're like, oh, we'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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You know, this is I swear to God, this is
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the ploy for every male researcher that I research with,
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which is fine, it's not a problem. I'm a I'm
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a willing slash unwilling participant. They start walking down the road,
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We'll be right back and then just as I see
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their flashlights go out of view, I hear behind me
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doom doom, doom doom. I screamed. I jumped in my car.
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My windows are down, it's and my car is a
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push to start, right, you put your foot on the
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brake and then you push it. I'm trying to find
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a keyhole, you know, like I'm trying to find a
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key And because I just totally blamed, yeah, right, so
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I yell out the window, I'm like, Eric's right behind me.
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So I see here they come. Their flashlights are coming
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back down the road, and they walked past the car,
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you know. I'm like, it's twenty feet behind me. And
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I get out of the car and we look and
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because it's so dark, and there's like ledges on the
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side that go down to the reservoir itself, so you
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can't really see anything. And so I was like, okay,
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we hung out for half an hour and took off.
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So a couple days later, I brought out another one
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of my research members, Matt. He's super athletic guy, so
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he was able to climb down the side of that
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hill there and he found Jeremiah four footprints going up
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the hill. Really yes, And then he also found this
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giant rock that kind of looked like a bench, and
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on it was a huge butt print. It's got moss
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all over it, so there's a huge butt print in
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the moss. So he sat on it, and Matt's a
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he's a pretty big guy. He's over six feet tall
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and he's got a really long torso, so he said
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he sat. I watched him do this. He sat on
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the rock and he kind of looked and he said
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that as as he sat, he was almost eye level
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with where my car was parked.
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Oh my goodness.
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So in theory, something he could have been that, you know, sasquatch,
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I'm sure was sitting on that that rock, just watching,
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waiting for Eric and Tim to go down the road
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around the corner.
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That is is wild. How how wide across would you
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approximate that the butt moss print on the seat was?
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I would say it was about what would maybe twenty
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four inches?
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Okay, that's a question I've never had to ask on
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the show before, so definitely willed to ask that one.
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That is wild. Did you get any pictures of that?
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Yeah? I do. I have pictures. They're all on the
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Sweet Home.
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Oh there you go, Sweet.
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Home, Sasquatch. All of my research evidence and stuff that
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I have pictures and videos and whatnot, I always post
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in the feature part. So when you go to the
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group and you click on the featured button, then all
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of my research photos and videos are right there. So
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you know, I have to scroll through, you know, a
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bunch of stuff. But yeah, that happened. And you know,
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it's kind of funny because Jason came out. Jason Kenzie
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came out and filmed a Searching First Sasquatch documentary with us,
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and him and my research partner Jewel did the same thing.
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I had opened up the hatch in the back of
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my car right in the habitat, and Jason had set
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up a camera and it was dark out. It was night,
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and Jason and Joel walked down a trail and as
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soon as they got I couldn't hear him anymore or anything.
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Crazy stuffed happened. It's on film. It'll be in the documentary.
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Yeah I can wait.
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It was frightening. Scared the living daylights out of me.
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So, man, that experience you had trying to get the
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key and didn't even have a k that's like totally
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a drastic park. That's just I can't imagine dealing with that.
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It was fun, incredible, And you're saying it sounded like
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it was like bipedal steps coming to Yeah, wow.
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Yeah, totally totally was bipedal. Yeah. There was a night
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it was just like boom boom, and I could hear
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it and almost I couldn't feel it, but I felt
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like I could feel it, you know what I mean.
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It was that loud.
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It was just like.
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Boom boom, boom boom.
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That's wild.
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I don't know.
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Let's see so.
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Deaf.
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I will have the link to of course the Sweet
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Home Sasquatch group in the show notes, So people and
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check that out. I will say your group there has
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just quality information and data from that area. I would
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say that, and uh, the Bend Bend Bigfoot Research group
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from Randy Is it's like my top I would say
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top three for that area. That one and you guys
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and then Sasquatch Puzzle. You guys are like out there
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getting the stuff and it is incredible that the research
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that is coming out of those those three organizations.
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For sure, and also sharing information. I really like sharing
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information with William Morris and Randy Shiveley M.
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Hmm, absolutely, it's it's it's good. Uh good little back
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and forth for sure. So let's let's talk about So
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you were able to get down to Sasquatch Summer Fest again. Yeah, sure,
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How did that go?
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It was so fun. First of all, Summerfest is just
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like a big family reunion and you were sorely missed there.
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Everybody just was just missing you so much. Jeremiah, thank you.
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Yes, And I missed it greatly.
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I know you did. I know you did.
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But so.
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Priscilla asked Sarah from Sailor Sasquatch and myself to kind
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of old her shoes a little bit while you were gone,
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And so that was my second time speaking, and I
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had a really great time. It was fun. But we
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also we did night hikes. Priscilla and me and Jason
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Kenzie went out took people out on night hikes. That
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was amazing. We had so much fun doing that. We
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found so many really cool things. We were finding weavings.
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There was like a weaving and it was older too.
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You could tell it wasn't recently done, it had been
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there for a while. Hearing noises and orbs, the orbs
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out there we were sitting. So we had a group
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of people were down hiking, you know, looking for evidence.
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And then we had a group of people sitting up
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at the campsite. We didn't camp, but it's a campsite, yeah, exactly, Yeah,
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looking for like orbs and stuff like that. And I
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was looking down the trail. It's a dead end trail,
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so I'm looking down the trail and I saw a
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flash of light and I said, hey, everybody, I saw
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a flash of light. And just as everybody turned around
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and looked, we all of us watched this white, big white,
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translucent orb go right across the trail. It was amazing,
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and it was the amazing part is that everybody saw it.
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You know, it wasn't just one of us.
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Yeah, how many people were out there with you?
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I think we had about ten people ish on each hike,
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so it wasn't a whole lot. It was really easy
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to you know, be attentive to everybody, you know, and
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exclusive with everyone. Everybody was included, and it was a
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really good feel.
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It takes a long time to get out to this
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area and you are driving on for service roads, you're up,
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you're down, You're all around corners and there's no way
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that It's just you're not in someone's backyard where it's like, oh,
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now there's a drone. No, this is not a possibility.
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Is not just a random drone flying like that was
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something else completely that you guys saw out there. I
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can guarantee it because of stuff that I've experienced out
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there as well, and that just blows my mind that
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everyone was able to see it.
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I was so happy about that. I was so happy
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to have witnesses, you know, because a lot of times
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you're out there in the field, and with me in particular,
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I've had instances where I've seen something and all the
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people with me didn't, you know, and it kind of
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makes you feel really alone and isolated and crazy and
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you know everything else. So just to have everybody else
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witness the same thing that I was witnessing, it was
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really it was a great.
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Experience, especially not just one other person, but multiple witnesses.
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Multiple Yeah, very rare. Now stuff like that happens so quick,
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I know it was how how long would you say
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it probably lasted.
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For I would say maybe five or six seconds. It
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just kind of like like if you were to see
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a person kind of walk across the trail. That's how
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long it lasted. But it was the orb was really
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big too. It was like, gosh, just judging on how
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far away it was, it was maybe about three feet
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and it was it wasn't perfectly round either. It was
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shaped more like a tic tac, you know, like it
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was kind of yeah, it was really it was strange.
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It was unlike any I've seen a lot of orbs,
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and I've never seen an orb like that before. And
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the way that it started, too, was a flash of light.
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It was like a flash of light and a white
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flash of light, and then it dissipated and then when
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everybody turned round, it reappeared and it just went right
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across the trail.
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Really okay, now I'm trying to this is also the
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area for a long time listeners. They can make a
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connection where this is where Priscilla and Chad had the
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sighting when they were gathering moss twenty twenty four. Yes, yes,
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so I'm imagining you guys are in because you drive
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it's a dead end. Then there's an opening. You're probably
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standing in that opening in front of the field. And
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then were you turning around looking towards the road that
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goes down and there's like all that trees that are open,
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the tall trees. Was it going through the tall trees?
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Yes, it was total. Yeah, we were all sitting. We
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were kind of sitting in camp chairs in a circle.
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So I but and I was facing directly down the trail,
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So that's why I saw it, because you know, I
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was facing it. And then when I mentioned it, the
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people who were kind of going around the circle, two
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of them stood up and turn around and that's when
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they saw them, and then they went down there.
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Yeah, because I think I remember Ronnie and Dwayne some
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other gentlemen have we've gone up there a few times
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and they've mentioned that that area out there in the trees,
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they've had some weird stuff happen out there before.
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00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.039
I've been out there with Priscilla in the past, and
483
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:23.440
oh yeah, yeah, but we didn't I personally didn't see anything,
484
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.960
but I did witness the energy drains that were happening
485
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:33.680
with the equipment, the cameras, their phones. I think Ben
486
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.279
her Son had an issue with something on his car
487
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:41.160
where the energy had just drained. So yeah, there's a
488
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.319
lot of it's it's not just Sasquatch out there. There's
489
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.000
a lot of really strange happenings, you know, going out
490
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.079
there as with my area. My area is really the same,
491
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:55.400
it's just you know, in a different location because we
492
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.160
see a lot of orbs, we have energy drains, we
493
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:01.359
have sasquatch and oh, I was going to tell you
494
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:06.359
this is awesome. So recently I went out on a
495
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.559
camp out with Barbshoop and her group.
496
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:11.720
Yeah that was so if.
497
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:17.119
I love Barb so much, she's so cool. Yeah, But
498
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.720
a couple of days before, and anybody who's familiar with
499
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:24.799
Barbshoop would know that she has some really great videos,
500
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:33.279
including her fairy videos, and they're absolutely studying. And so
501
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.519
a couple of days before I was preparing with my
502
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:41.079
friend to go on the camp out, and we were
503
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.920
driving down Quartzville Road next to Green Peter and we
504
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.200
saw an owl came out and flew as dusk and
505
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.319
an owl came out and flew right in front of
506
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.519
the car. And at the same time we were like, oh,
507
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.799
we're going to see a sasquatch, and I kick you.
508
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:02.039
Not five seconds later, here comes this little bright, bright
509
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.599
white orb kind of thing that comes down, swoops in
510
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.119
front of the car and then goes back up, and
511
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:11.839
when it went back up, it looked like a fairy
512
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.160
not even kidding. It's the first time I've ever seen
513
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:19.319
anything like that, And I was just like, what are
514
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:26.480
the chances? You know, like it was amazing. It left Yeah,
515
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.200
it left us. Really, it left us both speechless and
516
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.960
just and knowing that, you know, in two days we're
517
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:33.720
going to be on a camp out with Barb.
518
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:40.680
Shoot, we were just like, what fantastic, It's awesome. Not
519
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:45.640
not to give away, like is that in I'm just curious,
520
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:50.559
is that in Oregon or Washington Barb's campouts? Yeah?
521
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:51.799
Hers her in Washington?
522
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.279
Okay, cool, thank you, that's fair. I can't imagine rap.
523
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:57.519
I don't know if I'd be able to wrap my
524
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:02.799
mind around seeing something that literally I'm imagining like the
525
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:08.079
tinker Bell from Hook, Like that's exactly.
526
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.559
What it looked like to me. Like I was like, what,
527
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:13.680
I just shut back.
528
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:19.079
Into childhood, right exactly. I want to go back to
529
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:24.839
the the ORB situation and Oakridge for a bit. So
530
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.279
when it was going across, was it making any noise
531
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:27.599
at all?
532
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:31.759
No, No, it didn't make any noise at all. Yeah,
533
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:38.519
we were hearing weird owl calls, just weird because it
534
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.519
seemed like they were all going off at once. It
535
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.319
was really strange. But yeah, no, the orb didn't make
536
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:45.200
any noise at all.
537
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.400
Okay, any smells of the ordinary up there?
538
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:51.720
Nothing? No, not for me at.
539
00:31:51.720 --> 00:32:00.440
Least, gotcha right? Any uh? Any trees get put over
540
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.440
when you were up there, Not that I'm aware of.
541
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.559
I know that Jason had taken a group of people
542
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.440
hiking and they were experiencing some things, some different things,
543
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.559
and unfortunately I just don't know what it is because
544
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.359
we didn't connect on it.
545
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.359
Well that's great because that's foreshadowing because once that boy
546
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:25.559
is hard to get, it's hard to pin down because
547
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:28.039
like he's going literally all over the world now. So
548
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:29.640
I'm like, Jason, I gotta get you in the show
549
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.319
so we can talk about your adventures like I'm in Scotland.
550
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.839
I'm like, okay, all right, we can wait until you
551
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.440
get back to Canada and then we'll try to I'll
552
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.480
try to get you. But so there's there's info coming,
553
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.039
hopefully in a future episode with Jason. But how did
554
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.359
the How did the attendees Because probably the most of
555
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.400
these attendees, I'm guessing some of them is their first
556
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.960
time out in the woods. Maybe. How were they through
557
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:53.279
all this?
558
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:56.799
They were just they were so happy. They were just
559
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:01.039
happy to be there and they were in quiz and
560
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.759
they were just they were having a great time and
561
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.720
they were so appreciative. They had a lot of gratitude too,
562
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:11.200
for us and you know, doing this for them. They
563
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:13.160
had a really good and we spent quite a bit
564
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:14.799
of time out there. We were out there for a
565
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.400
couple hours at least.
566
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.799
At the very That is so awesome. Yeah, I have
567
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.359
nothing but immense gratitude. Whenever I'm able to be taken
568
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:30.559
out into that area or Ronnie's area, or really whenever
569
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.359
researcher takes me out into an area anywhere I go,
570
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.599
I have immense gratitude because it's like it's so special
571
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.920
to have that trust to be able to be taken
572
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:46.599
out somewhere. So were these individuals, not not to get
573
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:51.720
too deep into whether were these researchers or just enthusiasts
574
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.240
that had signed up, or I would.
575
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:57.359
Say that they were through enthusiasts. There was a couple
576
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:04.960
of people who actually were paranormal researchers. So Sasquatch. Yeah,
577
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.840
Sasquatch was not there for tape but they were totally
578
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:11.440
interested in it and wanted to see, you know, what
579
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.960
it was like. And there were fans there as well,
580
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:18.320
people who wanted to be there to be with us.
581
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:24.119
Yeah, sure you, yeah, apparent. That's a very interesting I'd
582
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.960
never thought of what might happen if someone from that field.
583
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:33.159
So were they did they have different things, they were
584
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:37.960
using different paranormal tools, or just observing.
585
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:43.639
Just observing. There was one gentleman that was really loaded up.
586
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:47.360
He had like a microphone and a backpack and the
587
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.920
microphone was sticking out of the backpack. It was pretty cool.
588
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:54.119
He had a really cool setup and a recorder and everything.
589
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.199
Unfortunately I haven't been able to reconnect with him since
590
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.480
the experience. I'd really liked to know, So if you're listening,
591
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.880
i'd really like to know you got it.
592
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.880
And also I will put in a plug for myself
593
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.880
if any I will say anyone who was involved with
594
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.360
going out, because I know there were two separate things
595
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.760
that happened, like two different nights. I would love to
596
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:19.119
talk to you, even if it's a thing where you
597
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.039
don't want to come on the show, I still would
598
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.559
like to talk to you just because it's so incredibly
599
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:29.480
important that that area is documented. The Oakage area is
600
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.599
very special. I think, well, it's special to me, but also,
601
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:38.039
you know Bigfoot, Bigfoot community, there's a lot going on.
602
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:41.639
It's important that stuff is documented because there's so many
603
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.760
different eyes on that area at that time, and someone
604
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:48.760
might have noticed something that they didn't realize other people notice,
605
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.800
and that's just how it works when you have so
606
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.960
many people in the same situation. So please reach out
607
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.320
to me Bigfoot societygmail dot com. Reach out to Michelle.
608
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:03.079
I'll have her face book linked to in the show notes.
609
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.320
Is that the best way people can reach out to you,
610
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.320
or it's email, okay to Michelle?
611
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.880
Yeah, email is fine too. Sweet home Sasquatch at gmail
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00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:12.400
dot com.
613
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:17.119
Perfect perfect, That's fantastic. And I love that area. It's
614
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.840
so so beautiful. We almost got stuck up there once
615
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:28.880
because Ronnie's car is like overheating. I was like, Dwayne,
616
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:31.840
I think we started to talk about like it's a
617
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:36.320
long walk back to coverage. It's a long walk, boys,
618
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.079
but thankfully we were able to get that that guy
619
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:43.960
roll on again, just just just wild wild stuff. Can
620
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.440
you talk to me a bit about how what was
621
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.599
your presentation about specifically in the festival.
622
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.639
Yeah, so I people really want to know about my dreams.
623
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.039
Oh yeah, okay, cool, So it was.
624
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.800
It was specifically about my sasquatch streams. I have a dream,
625
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.800
so I do light work and mediumship, and I do
626
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.639
it all while I'm sleeping. And I don't know why
627
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:14.000
it happens that way, it just does. I can't. Maybe
628
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.880
it's just because I have too much going on in
629
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:20.320
my head while I'm not sleeping. So when I'm sleeping,
630
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.000
I just and you know what, I did a sleep
631
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.760
study too, because I wanted to know what was going on.
632
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:29.760
And the sleep study said that I go into my
633
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.599
rem quicker than a normal human being would, and I
634
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:39.159
come out much quicker. So whereas somebody, you know, it
635
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:43.320
takes you for your whole cycle, it takes you eight hours, right,
636
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:50.159
seventeen hours for me, it takes about three. So, yeah,
637
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.840
isn't that crazy? So that I think that because I
638
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.440
go in so quickly and so deeply that it just
639
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.800
I get to that spot where not a lot of
640
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:04.440
pep people get too in their brain, right, and that
641
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:10.239
opens up a whole nother you know, dimension or whatever
642
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:11.519
it is that I got.
643
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.559
You's got more time to play around in there exactly. Yeah,
644
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:16.360
that's wild.
645
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.920
Yeah, yeah, I'm righting. My second book is going to
646
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.519
be about that. It's going to be less about Sasquatch
647
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:26.440
and more about you know, yeah, that kind of experience.
648
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.400
But yeah, so it's just about my dream and it
649
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:35.440
was just about my experiences up to now in with
650
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.559
Sasquatch in my sweet home area.
651
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:47.400
I love it so the and I apologize. We talked
652
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:51.320
off camera the medicine I'm on for my cancer treatment.
653
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.360
It feels like it makes interviewing very interesting. It's just
654
00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:00.360
like pink pin ping in my head. So but I
655
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.920
just had a thought, it's so your your experience with
656
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.599
the ORB happened. Was that on the first night, like
657
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.960
the original Jason Kenzie Adventure night?
658
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.519
No, I think that was on the second night and
659
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:17.199
the second night was that was a I don't know
660
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:19.239
what you want to call it, like it wasn't supposed
661
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:19.639
to happen.
662
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:26.760
Impty, Okay, because yeah, I just talked to Priscilla. We
663
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:29.280
just had an interview a few days ago, and she
664
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.119
was like there were so many people that were that
665
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.480
were interested in it and like coming up to her
666
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.559
and like, hey can we can we do this somehow
667
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.679
even though we weren't, and she was like, I think
668
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:42.800
we can make this happen.
669
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:47.159
So did I slept on the way up there? And
670
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:48.480
I slept on the way back?
671
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:50.480
Oh, in the car?
672
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.280
Yeah?
673
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:56.119
So did anything You went up both nights or just
674
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:56.679
that one night?
675
00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:58.559
Both nights?
676
00:39:58.679 --> 00:39:59.039
Okay?
677
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.440
So did anything happen the first night or was the
678
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.639
weirdest thing that happened on that second night?
679
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.679
Yeah, the weirdest thing happened on the second night for sure.
680
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.599
The first night, To be honest with you, I can't
681
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.679
really remember very much. I know that we had split
682
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:24.639
up again, so I stayed with Camp, and then the
683
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.679
everybody else or all the people that wanted to go
684
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.559
with Jason went with Jason. They go more people want
685
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.480
to go into the woods, you know, but for people
686
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:38.159
who are not you know, able, or who don't want to,
687
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.480
we have a group that stays up at camp. So
688
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:48.440
and for me, I think the first night, nothing, nothing
689
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.920
that stood out, but I know that they were having
690
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.880
experiences with Jason. So yeah, and I'm sure he'll talk
691
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:56.239
about it.
692
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:56.880
He had.
693
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.559
He told me he's going to do a big fuzz society.
694
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:05.199
That guy has nine lives. I was man, I always
695
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:09.159
remembering the time we took We took him and his
696
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.199
buddies out for filming a documentary in twenty twenty four,
697
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.119
and I'm out there with Steve and some others and
698
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.519
they just all went running out in the woods. It
699
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.880
was like twelve thirty at night. We had no way
700
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.599
to contact him, and we're like, I hope these guys
701
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.159
like come back somehow, and me and Steve are like, well,
702
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.440
it's been forty five minutes. We don't have any way
703
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.079
to contact them, so I guess we're just gonna get lucky.
704
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.920
And we literally are driving down for service roads in
705
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:40.679
that area, and all of a sudden, no joke, a
706
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.440
group that whole searching for Sasquatch groups comes running down
707
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.199
the side of the hillside and comes out right in
708
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.159
front of the car Steve is driving, and we're like, well,
709
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:55.960
that was really awesome and pretty intense. We almost like
710
00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:01.199
that was pretty close. Guys. Yeah, they are is one
711
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:02.239
lucky dude.
712
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:06.360
I swear I love working with them. His energy is
713
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:10.000
just I have a lot of energy too, so I'm
714
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.480
I'm here for it, you know what I mean. So,
715
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.000
and he's just constantly on the going full of ideas
716
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.480
and stuff like that. And I think one of the
717
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.159
cool things about being out in Oakridge with them was
718
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.039
that he took people out individually too, So really that
719
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.599
was yeah, that was part of the second night. He
720
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.519
took whoever wanted to go for a walk with them,
721
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.719
you know, out into the woods and do some you know,
722
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:40.880
for about ten minutes each He took each personnel individually,
723
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.800
which I thought was really just wonderful and personable.
724
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.760
You know it is. Yeah, I mean the experiences you
725
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:57.400
get an Oakridge at this festival, I do not nowhere
726
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.199
even comes close and right. I knew that from the
727
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:04.199
first year going to it, and I mean it's just
728
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:08.000
it's even if you're just sticking around and you just
729
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.000
start talking to people in attendance, the people in attendance
730
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:15.079
are good people and they get it, and you will
731
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.199
start to just make relationships with people that will stick
732
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:20.400
around for years.
733
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.320
Yeah, they're so appreciative. There's they hew me in, they're
734
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:28.159
so they're you're right, Jeremiah, and they're just wonderful people.
735
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.280
And everybody is really connected.
736
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.719
It's just in conversations that happen. I mean, some of
737
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.159
the things I heard from the first year are the
738
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.599
best podcasts that were never recorded. I mean, You've got
739
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.960
like Bill and Bill and Ronnie talking about Bigfoot for
740
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:48.400
eight hours straight one day and just like off the
741
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:50.280
cuff stuff. I was like, oh man, I didn't hear
742
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.519
any of that because I'm off literally at my booth
743
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.159
talking to experiencers for the entire time, which was like,
744
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.320
it was the best thing I could ever ask for,
745
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.119
and like marking down stuff on a map of the
746
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.920
area and is so cool. I just love going there.
747
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.119
Next year, I will be there no matter what, I
748
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.360
will be there, So we're going to make it happen
749
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.639
for sure. Can you share a little bit about how
750
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.719
is your You do a monthly meet up in Sweet Home?
751
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:19.079
Right?
752
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:19.960
Yeah?
753
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:20.119
I do?
754
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.559
Yeah, So every the last Saturday of every month, I
755
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.079
do a town hall meeting at the Damn Bar, which
756
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:33.599
is here in Sweet Home from noon to two, and
757
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:37.039
it's twenty one and over. Unfortunately, no one under twenty
758
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.480
one is a lot in the bar, so I may
759
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:44.440
or may not find another location soon because I'm getting
760
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:48.519
a lot of people who are shown up. So yeah,
761
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:51.079
it's just a town hall. They've actually they built a
762
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.599
stage and gave me a microphone this year, so I'm
763
00:44:54.599 --> 00:45:00.159
really excited about that. Yeah. Yeah, people can come and
764
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:03.880
a lot of locals believe it or not. Like Ronnie's friends,
765
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.719
He's got a bunch of old timers here in town
766
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.440
that he hangs out with that are old Sasquatch researchers.
767
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.760
So really yeah, So they they all show up and
768
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.079
they come and they tell their stories. The locals who
769
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.800
have stories who are kind of you know a lot
770
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:29.119
of people people are really judgmental and and so a
771
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.199
lot of the reports that I get are told to
772
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:37.719
me because they trust me, and I'm someone who'll listen
773
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.400
to them and believe them, you know. So it's really
774
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.280
great when people like that come out to the town
775
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:48.320
halls because it, you know, it creates a sense of
776
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.960
community and support. And you know, some of these people
777
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.039
are okay with their citings. Some of them get PTSD
778
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.239
from it because they just don't know how to cope
779
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:03.039
your process. Absolutely, and that's really important to remember. So
780
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.280
that's why I love these meetings so much, because all
781
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:11.880
these different people come together. It's a support system for them.
782
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.559
It really is. And that's such a great way to
783
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.159
put it. When someone does when they when you're making
784
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.280
something in this community, and you're doing it the right way,
785
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:26.000
ends up being a support system, which is really what
786
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:30.880
I want to think happens with the podcast community over
787
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.480
here in Big for society. But you're absolutely right. I Mean,
788
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:36.000
something I learned when I went out to Okriz the
789
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.880
first time is I've never interviewed people or listened to
790
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.400
their story face to face. And the visceral reactions you
791
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.519
get from people when they're sharing something with you face
792
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.880
to face and they're going back to that time period
793
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.719
and the PTSD is something that you just cannot get
794
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.679
when you're like over the internet. It just does not
795
00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:01.440
come across and it's just it is. It was I
796
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:06.159
was like, this is wild. I felt felt so so
797
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:10.079
connected and so like emotional with these these witnesses, and
798
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.079
like I almost didn't want them to stay in that
799
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.800
state for too long, you know, like come back to
800
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:17.920
present day and where things are okay, you know.
801
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.559
And you know sometimes I feel like that too, And
802
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:24.400
but sometimes I think just sitting with them and letting
803
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:30.960
letting them have somebody to be there to help them
804
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:34.000
process it, and the only way they're going to process
805
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.960
it is to be back in the moment. If you
806
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.400
can be there, and if you can, you know, just
807
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.280
put a hand on their shoulder, just you know, hold
808
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:47.519
their hand or something through it. Then I think that
809
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.840
is incredibly helpful for them. Absolutely, So you've got to
810
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.639
just let them, just let them go through the motion
811
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.280
and they'll come out of it when they're ready.
812
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:03.079
Yeah, I think that's that's great. Words. Do you ever
813
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:05.599
have speakers at these events as well?
814
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:06.599
I do?
815
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.679
Yeah, Priscilla came out and spoke. Yeah, she brought her
816
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:13.599
whole you know, her setup and everything. It was beautiful.
817
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:17.519
She has beautiful tracks that she shared and posters. No,
818
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.079
what's wonderful. Jason Kenzie has spoke. I'm having in September,
819
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.880
Sarah Brown from Sala's Sasquatches coming out to speak. Yeah.
820
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.880
I don't have anybody. I've got a meeting this weekend.
821
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:30.639
It's just going to.
822
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:30.920
Be me.
823
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:37.159
And then I haven't scheduled anybody for August yet that
824
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.840
I am. I'm looking for someone to come out. It's
825
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:43.840
kind of hard because everybody is so far away. But
826
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.599
they'll make the trip. They'll make the trip. I'll just
827
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:48.440
tell them I'll take them camping.
828
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:48.760
You know.
829
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.679
Right, Oh, there you go. That's cool. So yeah, that's
830
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:56.400
a question, right, Here's what's the farthest person has driven
831
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:57.639
for one of these events.
832
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:10.119
Let's see that I know of Washington, okay, yeah, somewhere
833
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:11.800
in near or Takoma.
834
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:12.519
I think it was.
835
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:14.599
Oh well, yeah that's a trip.
836
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.440
It was a camping trip, but you camp that night.
837
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:18.920
Very cool.
838
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.760
I would expect if they come down to, you know,
839
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:25.159
to come to the meeting, I will accommodate them the best.
840
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.280
I can, right, and probably probably a touch base with
841
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.400
Michelle ahead of time, not just yeah and be like
842
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.559
all right, we're going camp. Michelle has a life too,
843
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.039
you know, like, yeah, bro.
844
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.480
I think, yeah, I love it when people are SVP
845
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.000
because then I can get an idea of how many
846
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:44.519
people are going to be there and how I can
847
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:46.519
accommodate them at the bar as well.
848
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:48.800
So yeah, absolutely, they only.
849
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:51.920
Need one server. Sometimes they need three servers. It depends,
850
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:52.280
you know.
851
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:57.000
Sure, sure, I think you know, twenty thirty fifty years
852
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:01.280
in the future, people will probably think of the sweet
853
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.960
Home gatherings. They'll probably think of it the same way
854
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:09.079
as you have the old ray Crow Western Bigfoot Society,
855
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:11.599
and like you hear about those and you're like, wow,
856
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.679
all those people used to get together for those meetings
857
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:18.000
and like just all the cool, cool people back in
858
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:19.880
the day, and it's kind of the same thing. It's
859
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:21.960
probably what they'll talk about in the future. And Randy's
860
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:26.920
stuff too, And but ma'a, Michelle is always so cool
861
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.000
to talk to you, and I missed talking with you
862
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.079
this year and everyone else out there in Okres. But
863
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:36.559
we will definitely chat next next summer as well. But
864
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:40.320
I want to make sure you know before before we
865
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.559
are at the end of our time today, do you
866
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:47.920
mind sharing a little bit about what's the best way
867
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.199
people can reach out to you and be connected?
868
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:57.840
And yeah, definitely, so Sweet Home Sasquatch at gmail dot
869
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.559
com is my email address. That's a really good way
870
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.119
to reach out to me. Believe it or not, I
871
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:07.119
do a lot of social media, so the best way
872
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.320
to reach out to me is through my personal profile
873
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:16.559
Michelle Heaton and on Facebook through Messenger. I really I'm
874
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:17.079
a Texter.
875
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:19.719
Oh yeah, gotcha.
876
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:23.880
So then I also have the Sweet Home Sasquatch or
877
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.159
Sweet Home Sasquatch group on Facebook, the Girl's Gone Squatching
878
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.320
group on Facebook, so any one of those. Oh, and
879
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:36.360
now the Strange organ uh Facebook group as well. Strange
880
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.840
organ EPW ninety seven point three of them.
881
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.400
When those episodes get out, I can't even imagine what's
882
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.559
going to start to happen, Like, oh, man, I hope
883
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:48.320
you're ready for the potential.
884
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.639
I am excited. I've got so I've written so far,
885
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:57.639
I've written seven episodes written as an uh not necessarily
886
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:01.039
a script, just notes, you know, the notes, because we
887
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:02.599
need to know what we're talking about.
888
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:03.960
Yeah, you do radio.
889
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:08.280
Yeah, we've recorded two episodes and I'm going today to
890
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:14.199
edit those and then sometime soon we'll record some more.
891
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.159
But yeah, we haven't set a date yet. There's so
892
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.840
I need to figure out it's going to be a
893
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.920
weekly show. We're going to figure out what day of
894
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.360
the week and what time we want to do it.
895
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.400
So that's that's kind of what I'm focusing on right now,
896
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.159
and then as soon as we get that figured out,
897
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:33.159
then we'll.
898
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:38.559
AIRR gotcha so cool? So so listeners coming out. So
899
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:40.559
I'm telling you, Michelle too, this is coming out like
900
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:46.159
August twentieth, and so what that means is that you
901
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:49.039
need to contact if you're interested in going to that
902
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.360
gathering and sweet Home, which would be on the twenty.
903
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:54.800
I think the twenty ninth is the last Saturday of August.
904
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:57.840
You want a contact as soon as possibly be, like,
905
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.840
let her know, Hey, I'm coming and you know, get
906
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:03.880
on that guys, you can check it out. So Michelle,
907
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:07.519
thank you again for coming on the show. Always good
908
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.079
to keep up to date with you. Let me know
909
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.400
if you have any cool things that come up in
910
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:15.199
that area, and we'd love to get a update with
911
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.039
you sometime in the future. But thank you so much
912
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:18.000
for hanging out today.
913
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.920
Yeah, thank you. I'm so grateful. I really appreciate it. Jeremiah,
914
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:22.679
and take care.
915
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:26.159
While we're waiting, I can share. I can share one
916
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:30.320
of the weird things I've had happen. One of the
917
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:35.519
weirdest things I had happened was I was in out
918
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.719
in the woods in Iowa one time and I was
919
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:43.119
camping in an area that's known for bigfoot activity between
920
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:48.960
myself and some other people, and that night something was
921
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.039
walking around my tent at three am in the morning,
922
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.719
And when I got up the next morning, there was
923
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.199
a plastic fork with a squirrel tail through the times
924
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:02.519
on the picking table right outside tent. Very weird stuff,
925
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:07.119
all right, Hither, how are you doing good? Can you
926
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.440
hear me, Yes, I can you hear you. Thanks for
927
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:11.880
coming up to Feel free to share your experience there.
928
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:12.679
Okay.
929
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.920
So it was like two thousand and thirteen.
930
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:18.559
My buddy had a cabin.
931
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:23.639
We live here in Tennessee, Middle Tennessee, h north of Nashville,
932
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.400
and we had well, he had the cabin.
933
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:27.440
But I stayed up there with him a lot.
934
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.920
It was probably like a two mile long driveway from
935
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:32.440
the road.
936
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:35.960
So we're way back off in the woods, up on
937
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:36.360
a hill.
938
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:41.400
And Uh, one time we were sitting on the porch
939
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:43.880
and we heard like a bang bang on the back door.
940
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:47.800
Uh nobody, no way, anyone was back.
941
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:49.719
There because I mean it was so far away there.
942
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:51.880
The driveway went through the front of the house and
943
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.960
then to the back, so nobody drove back there, you know.
944
00:54:56.719 --> 00:55:00.480
So DJ that was hit my buddy's name. He went
945
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:02.760
to the back door and he was like, you know,
946
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:03.559
yelled my name.
947
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:07.159
You know, my name's Tyson. He yelled, Tyson, Tyson. So
948
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:07.679
I come.
949
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:11.440
Running out there and to the back and he was like,
950
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:13.360
I gotta go get my flash light. Dude, you ain't
951
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.519
gonna believe what I've just seen. He was like, it
952
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:17.679
was a bigfoot and I'm like, no way, you know.
953
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:21.800
And then he goes inside grabs his headlight because he
954
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.800
coon hunted a lot, so he had one of them
955
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:26.559
big spotlights that you put on your.
956
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:28.719
Head, you know, and he shined it out there.
957
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:32.800
And I swear nobody believes this, but in the woodline
958
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:34.719
was a freaking bigfoot.
959
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:36.280
I saw it with my own eyes.
960
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.159
DJ took off running after the bigfoot.
961
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:41.000
I was scared.
962
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:43.679
I ain't gonna lie, Like, I'm like, I'm not running
963
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:46.559
after that thing. So like I'm sitting in the woods
964
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.039
or I'm sitting in the house surrounded by a bunch
965
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:52.199
of woods while my buddy took off running after it.
966
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.480
So like finally, like I started to adventure off into
967
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:59.119
the woods to where I heard DJ, you know, and
968
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.400
he had hound dogs that he let out and they
969
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.599
were barking and going crazy and stuff.
970
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:06.679
But he says he saw it again.
971
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:10.400
I unfortunately never saw it because I ended up finding him.
972
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.480
Then we were coming back to the cabin. We were
973
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.320
walking back to the cabin, we heard the most loudest
974
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:17.719
scream I've ever heard.
975
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.280
In my life. And that was the bigfoot story.
976
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.800
Yeah, that's that's incredible. North and Nashville, Meddle, Tennessee.
977
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:28.840
What year again, it would have been twenty and thirteen.
978
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:32.039
Okay, And can you describe what you saw because it
979
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:33.840
sounds like you actually saw something there.
980
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:38.360
Yeah. I mean there's no way it was a human.
981
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:41.440
I mean we had like prankster friends and.
982
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:46.079
Stuff, but like this thing was like eight foot tall,
983
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.079
if not taller, I mean it was.
984
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:52.719
It was jenormous, and it was super fast. I just
985
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:54.599
I don't see it being a human.
986
00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:01.360
And also, yeah, so we also started googling on the internet,
987
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:02.840
you know, trying to figure out like, how have there
988
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:08.000
been sightings around here? And there was like a place
989
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:11.800
called Cat's Gap that is about five miles from and
990
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:17.159
there had been numerous bigfoot sightings on Cat's Gap. Now,
991
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.159
I have tried to look this up, you know, within
992
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.280
my adult life, and I've never been able to find
993
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.079
it back on Google. I'm sure it's somewhere, you know,
994
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.440
in a search engine. Cats got bigfoot sighting in Tennessee.
995
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.320
But we did find that there was bigfoot sightings I
996
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.480
believe in the seventies, okay out here.
997
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:38.599
Yeah, fascinating. Is that something you would want to see
998
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:40.199
again or how did that affect you?
999
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:45.840
After that, I was terrified. To be honest, I mean,
1000
00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:52.119
I don't know. I mean, honestly, probably not. That's how
1001
00:57:52.199 --> 00:58:01.519
terrified I was. I was, like genuinely scared. He loved it, he.
1002
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:03.920
Loved he was in there, he was he was loving it.
1003
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:07.280
I love that. Well. Yeah, I mean it can be
1004
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:12.480
a fat it can be an experience that captivates you,
1005
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.519
or can it can be horrifying as well, different things
1006
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.639
for different people. But thank you so much for coming
1007
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:25.119
up and for sharing what you're experience. Hey there, how
1008
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:26.320
are you.
1009
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.519
I'm good, That's fine. I just I've never had a
1010
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:30.760
personal experience.
1011
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:34.280
But they have all kinds of noise and weird stuff
1012
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:36.360
that happens up here, and you hear things that.
1013
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:40.519
Happen and explains things. A lot of things happen up
1014
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:41.199
on this mountain.
1015
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:44.800
Yes, so you are familiar with the Goat Mountain area. Done?
1016
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:50.760
Yeah, I live on the mountain.
1017
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.000
Do you know how much big foot activity happens up
1018
00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:55.079
there over the years.
1019
00:58:55.119 --> 00:59:00.960
I've heard a lot, but I've never never experienced it.
1020
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.360
It is like so Esticada, I want to say, is
1021
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:08.679
one of the major hotspots for bigfoot in Oregon, and
1022
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.000
Goat Mountain is like one of the major hotspots within
1023
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.280
esti Kada. I would say just going off of like, yeah,
1024
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:16.320
it is documented.
1025
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:23.440
Yeah, it's more it's more quieter than Squaw Mountain, the
1026
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.719
other mountain up here in Esticada is more active because
1027
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:29.039
of the people that go four by and the kids
1028
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:33.320
that go and have their bonfires up here. We have
1029
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:36.400
some people to go far up to the towers and stuff.
1030
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:43.360
But it gets it's pretty spooky. It's so pretty spooky.
1031
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.360
You can feel it when you go, like I mushroom
1032
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:51.599
pick up around here, and okay, it's spooky.
1033
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:54.400
So what have you experienced on a Goat Mountain? Have
1034
00:59:54.440 --> 01:00:02.280
you heard anything or anything out of the ordinary.
1035
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:06.079
I have heard a lot of Like I don't know
1036
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:15.119
what he was like, I don't know how you explain it, like, uh, screeches,
1037
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:17.519
whistles at night.
1038
01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:21.119
Whistling is really weird up here at night, you know,
1039
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.880
high pitch whistles. It's like, I'm not birds. I don't
1040
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:26.000
know how to explain it.
1041
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:28.360
I don't know.
1042
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:32.239
I'll have to take a video and record the sounds.
1043
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:36.400
Because I'm up here on Goat Mountain. I'm above Esticada.
1044
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.239
I don't live in town.
1045
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:44.360
Yeah, that's that's wild. Have you heard of any other
1046
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:46.480
people experiencing anything up there?
1047
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:55.840
If it is. Lately it's been like a cougar. That's
1048
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:58.679
the cougars have been. It was like one cougar. That's
1049
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:01.320
all about it. But you make cookers can make so
1050
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:02.480
many different noises.
1051
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:07.119
Oh yeah, And I'm not familiar with what bigfoot noises are.
1052
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.719
But you know there's a loud studs at night, big
1053
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:11.800
booms at night.
1054
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:16.440
Like where did it come from? Because I live next to.
1055
01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:22.039
Basically well, I live in the mount Hood National Forest
1056
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:27.119
basically right, so but I'm right up on Goat, I
1057
01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:28.639
mean where I'm in go I'll have to take a
1058
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:31.280
video and the records.
1059
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:34.639
That would be that would be fantastic.
1060
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:36.559
I got a couple of trail cams.
1061
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:38.000
Oh nice.
1062
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:40.519
But yeah, I've heard that, you know, this is a
1063
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:41.960
popular bigfoot area, but.
1064
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:46.079
I don't know. And I've lived up here for thirty years.
1065
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:50.760
So wow, either, you know, it's just yeah, I mean
1066
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:53.360
we just kind of let things go.
1067
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.400
It's just what it is up here here. Something that's
1068
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:59.440
kind of like, oh.
1069
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:05.559
What was that a lot exactly? You mentioned Squad Mountain.
1070
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:07.440
What have you heard going on over there?
1071
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.280
Yeah, I'm not over there.
1072
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:10.800
In that area.
1073
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:15.440
That's on the other side of Esticada completely right for me,
1074
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:18.159
that's all on the other side. So I in my
1075
01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:21.039
younger years we used to go up there and go
1076
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:25.320
four buying stuff and just big things up there.
1077
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.679
But I haven't heard anything about squad. The kids go
1078
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.639
over there a lot. It's more populated than Goat.
1079
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:35.360
Mountain, isn't Isn't It also called Tumula Mountain as well.
1080
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:38.840
Tumla Is that?
1081
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:40.440
Okay?
1082
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:42.639
All right, that's a different one.
1083
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.639
What how about this set just because you've you've lived
1084
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:49.679
there thirty years, your mushroom picker, all this good stuff.
1085
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.880
What is the weirdest thing you've experienced out in the woods.
1086
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.440
It doesn't have to be necessarily big for related.
1087
01:02:57.519 --> 01:03:00.760
Just the feeling of being watched all Always when you
1088
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:03.519
go into the woods up here, it's you get if
1089
01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:05.880
you go deep into it, it's always you always get
1090
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:06.519
the feeling of.
1091
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:08.480
Someone's watching you.
1092
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:14.280
You know, it's it's it's eerie. Never had anything like
1093
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:19.400
strange happened to me. It's just always just a little eerie.
1094
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.039
I don't know. I guess I just just go flow.
1095
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:25.440
I kind of't want to. I don't know what I
1096
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:27.159
would do if I ran into a big.
1097
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:29.920
Foot, I have no idea, you know, I don't know
1098
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:35.159
what I would do and be like, yeah, let.
1099
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:35.920
Me take a picture of you.
1100
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.400
Way are they mean?
1101
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:41.039
Are you know? I don't think they're mean up here.
1102
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:44.320
I don't think they mean. I just think they're trying
1103
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:44.599
to live.
1104
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:46.119
If they are up here, I think they're doing a
1105
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:50.159
good job of staying, you know, to themselves.
1106
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:58.079
I would say so, yeah, absolutely, thank you for coming
1107
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:00.199
up and talking about living in that area. I do
1108
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.360
appreciate it. If you ever do experience anything else, my
1109
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.360
email is Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. I'd love
1110
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:12.559
to hear from you. Thank you. Okay, all right, Arthur,
1111
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:13.119
are you.
1112
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:15.880
I'm doing pretty good, sir.
1113
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:16.760
How are you doing?
1114
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:17.599
Hey?
1115
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:20.400
Doing good? Feel free to share what your experience was.
1116
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:22.840
Now.
1117
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:33.840
In South Carolina and upstate New York, a lot of
1118
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:37.400
people are like upstate New York. I'm like, yeah, you
1119
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.960
start heading upstate New York from New York City, That's
1120
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:43.960
where I grew up. But you start going up by
1121
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:50.719
pea skills, you start getting into the woods. Derek, me
1122
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:58.000
and my kid brothers were scared because we knew what
1123
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:02.280
bears were. Because they still had bears up there. They
1124
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:10.119
still we ran two miles. We have never seen a
1125
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:17.159
bear run after us standing on two legs. Never saw it.
1126
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:22.840
And then me and my brothers, not my brother not
1127
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:28.960
the New York incident was my biological brothers, but me
1128
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:34.559
and my buddies that I consider brothers. We were up
1129
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:39.039
in Maine and it was the same thing, man something.
1130
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.480
We were camping out, we were getting ready to go fishing,
1131
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:47.880
and there was something in the woods and like the
1132
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:53.360
young lady was saying earlier, like it was making weird
1133
01:05:53.679 --> 01:06:01.039
noises and yeah, and we heard branches tearing down and
1134
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:05.840
it was not moose. It was not you know, they
1135
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:10.960
got bears up there. I've never heard a bear in
1136
01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:15.440
my life. I've been to Alaska before. I've never heard
1137
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:21.159
a bear of moose an elk make sounds like it
1138
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:26.000
was making and it was tearing down stuff. And we
1139
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:34.239
lit off literally, we're smart, we're not stupid. We let
1140
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:42.599
off two flare guns and there was something in the
1141
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:47.599
shadow of the flares coming down, and we're lucky it
1142
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:52.159
was raining. We you know, we respect the woods, like
1143
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:55.639
we're not going to set a woodline on fire. It
1144
01:06:55.679 --> 01:07:00.280
was porn rain, but we lit it up and there
1145
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:06.559
was this we we couldn't focus on it. We looked
1146
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:10.360
at it because it was pouring rain, and that thing
1147
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:15.440
was standing on two feet and making the weirdest sound
1148
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:21.559
towards our campsite, and We're like, what is that? And
1149
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:26.519
it definitely was not a bear. It wasn't a human.
1150
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:28.000
It was.
1151
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:34.519
A pretty big size creature. But it was walking. It
1152
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:40.039
was not you know, scrambling on the ground or anything
1153
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:44.840
like that. It was walking. But when we let off
1154
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:51.719
a third flare, it kind of like just made a
1155
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:57.000
sound and it backed up a little. And we're like're
1156
01:07:57.079 --> 01:08:02.039
staying up all night and that that was not a
1157
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:08.559
bear or anything like it with I got three buddies
1158
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:10.599
that will testify to it.
1159
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:12.840
It was like, what is that?
1160
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:18.680
And it, yeah, tore down. We went into woods the
1161
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:26.319
next day and we saw branches snapped. And I'm not
1162
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:31.600
I'm not a hunter. I'm more of a photographer. I
1163
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:34.680
don't hunt animals. I like to take pictures of them.
1164
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:38.640
But I know what bear claws look like, I know
1165
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:44.720
what a beaver looks like, I know what damaged they
1166
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:48.760
can do. I know wild boares and everything. We're like,
1167
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.680
what was that that was coming towards our campsite unless
1168
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:59.039
we had the flare guns and you know, like I said,
1169
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.880
it was pouring rain out and this saying was making
1170
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:07.720
sounds like almost human like.
1171
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:09.039
But.
1172
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:17.960
It it disturbed us, and most of us, me and
1173
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:23.239
my friends at the time, we're like, I don't know,
1174
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:31.720
I'm not gonna say anything bad about people that's into
1175
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:37.359
owning records stores or anything like that. No, that's awesome.
1176
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:44.800
I love records, So I sound stupid, but no, Uh,
1177
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:52.039
we were all built for or we were in combat
1178
01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:57.560
and it's scaredless and we're like, what is that walking
1179
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:02.680
towards us? And I I guess the flares scared it off.
1180
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:08.880
And it wasn't a bear. It definitely was not a bear.
1181
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:14.159
Every one of them knew it, and it was like
1182
01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:21.159
what is that? Like they were literally going, whats coming
1183
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:25.560
at us? And we couldn't even explain it. And that
1184
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:32.159
was upstate New York. South Carolina had another experience and
1185
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:40.479
then West Virginia. Traveling from New York to go visit
1186
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:45.359
my grandmother and yeah, I happened to take a detour
1187
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.520
into West Virginia and I saw something cross in front
1188
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:54.159
of me. And I'm just telling you I've never seen
1189
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:59.920
a bear walk walk down the road a hundred yard
1190
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:05.399
yards on two legs and disappear into the woods and
1191
01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:07.800
actually give me a chill.
1192
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:11.479
Yeah, what part of West Virginia was that in?
1193
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:23.079
Oh, that was like almost thirty years ago. Whaling. I
1194
01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:23.880
think it's called.
1195
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:29.880
Okay, so you saw it walk a hundred yards in
1196
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:32.279
the road. How long did you see it for it?
1197
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:32.640
Then?
1198
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:38.159
Oh, it ran down the road? It ran okay, yeah,
1199
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:43.000
it ran. My headlights hid it and it started running.
1200
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:52.279
And I've I've seen bears plenty at times, and I've
1201
01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:58.239
never seen a bear run two hundred yards down the road.
1202
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:03.119
I've never seen it not on two legs. I've never seen,
1203
01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:09.000
you know, like Yogi the bear, Hey, boo boo, let's
1204
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:13.279
let's run down the road. This thing ran down the
1205
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.960
road on two legs, and I.
1206
01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:18.439
Was like, is that a bear?
1207
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:23.119
What is that? And that thing kept running and then
1208
01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:28.640
it just dove off into the woods while on two legs.
1209
01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:32.359
It didn't drop down or anything. It just ran off
1210
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:33.359
into the woods.
1211
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:42.520
Yeah. That is fascinating. So your situation that happened in
1212
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:45.960
New York, upstate New York, where you're out with your buddies,
1213
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:49.239
and there was one that chased you can Can you
1214
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:53.840
provide any more details about about how that happened or
1215
01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:56.279
what didn't actually happened.
1216
01:12:57.159 --> 01:13:01.760
Yeah, No, it didn't chase us. We were up there
1217
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:06.159
gonna just camp out and everything. It didn't chase us.
1218
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:11.800
But I don't know if we had food out or what.
1219
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:18.239
But it came out of the woods and it was hollering,
1220
01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:26.640
and that's when we were like defensive positions and the thing,
1221
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:35.039
I don't know, a bear I put your sway, A
1222
01:13:35.079 --> 01:13:40.319
bear doesn't care what you got on you. You know
1223
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:44.680
what I'm saying, right, Yeah, a bear will be like,
1224
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.880
I'm sorry, I'm gonna come get your food and stuff.
1225
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:59.199
This thing realized and it wasn't a bear. This thing
1226
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:06.760
realized is we we outmanned it. It had intelligence or something,
1227
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:12.239
and it just went back into the woods and it
1228
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:17.960
was like I I and we could hear it. It
1229
01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:26.119
was like pissed off. It was like, hey, I can
1230
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:29.960
smell you guys cooking or something. I don't know what
1231
01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:38.399
it was, but it screamed and not screamed. That's the
1232
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:41.479
worst part. People think like, oh, it must have been
1233
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:47.960
like a coyote scream or Nah, this was almost human
1234
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:54.199
not human language, but this was like it was trying
1235
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:58.880
to say, hey, just share me or give me something.
1236
01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:02.720
I don't know what it was, and neither did my buddies.
1237
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:08.600
To this day, they're like, they're like that, dude, when
1238
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:14.199
I say that, dude, that that creature was something else
1239
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:18.640
and we've never seen it, we have met.
1240
01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:25.720
Wow, combat feels like we could maybe have a conversation
1241
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:27.840
another day as well. But I want to say thank
1242
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:32.279
you so much for coming up and sharing what you experienced.
1243
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:36.960
No problem, sir, I'm just I'm just telling you like
1244
01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:40.279
facts as I can tell them.
1245
01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:42.319
And thank you for your service story. Thank you so much.
1246
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:46.640
No, no, no, I thank people like you because it's
1247
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:50.560
why I serve. I'll look at it like this. If
1248
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:58.399
we don't keep free thinking thought the way you're doing,
1249
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:04.399
then why would I put on a uniform? Man, No,
1250
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:09.199
there's no reason for it. I believe. I believe in
1251
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:17.119
America and not the I'm not going to get into politics.
1252
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:21.119
I'm not going to talk about potis right now, but
1253
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:29.239
I believe that America is still founded on freethinking individuals
1254
01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:34.000
like you, and that's and that's awesome, and that I
1255
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:35.359
got no problem with that.
1256
01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:40.319
Absolutely absolutely, but a pleasure, A pleasure chat me that.
1257
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:42.359
Hopefully you can hang out in the chat for a
1258
01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:44.840
little bit, but we'll talk later. Sir, Hey, Titan, how
1259
01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:48.560
are you good? How are you hey? Doing well? Feel
1260
01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:51.279
free to share what your experience.
1261
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:56.760
Was, Titan, Well, I have my own channel and everything,
1262
01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:58.880
but I'm not gonna I'm not going to go into that.
1263
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:01.720
But I'm kind of you want it's up to you.
1264
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:09.520
No, no, all right, but I've had multiple, multiple interactions
1265
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:11.680
with Sasquatch and.
1266
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:16.680
Even had an incident where me and my brother.
1267
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:21.119
In law he just start discharged a firearm, you know,
1268
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:22.640
trying to get him away from us.
1269
01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:23.880
I mean, it was really bad.
1270
01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:29.880
But hu, we found what started the whole thing was
1271
01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:34.119
we found footprints across a property we had, and they
1272
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:37.840
were huge, and you know, we couldn't figure out what
1273
01:17:37.880 --> 01:17:38.359
they were.
1274
01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:39.359
They were like.
1275
01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:44.479
We thought maybe two deer ran in the same tracks,
1276
01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:49.479
you know, or you know, some something, because they were
1277
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:52.239
huge and they and we couldn't figure it out, and
1278
01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:55.399
so we thought, well, that's weird. And then we started
1279
01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:59.520
doing some homework and we started you know, hiking and
1280
01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:03.119
and searching, and we found these bones that had been
1281
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:09.439
broken femur bones of like elk okay, and and they
1282
01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:15.359
were fresh. Nobody can break afresh elk femer and stuck
1283
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:18.720
out the marrow, I mean unless they have a tool.
1284
01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:28.159
And these were fresh elk broken femurs and and we're like, well,
1285
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:32.399
this is not normal. And from that point we started
1286
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:38.119
the search and we went into that same area again
1287
01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:40.600
and we got charged.
1288
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:44.479
That's the only thing I can say is that we.
1289
01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:51.720
Were we were rushed and okay, and.
1290
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:52.279
He shot at it. He didn't shoot at it.
1291
01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:56.520
He shot up to scare it away, but it was
1292
01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:02.039
it wasn't good. We'd never have been back to that area.
1293
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:09.399
Can you share anything about the region this happened? And
1294
01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:13.600
you know, I know sometimes locations are touching subjects.
1295
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:16.119
But no, I mean Monsier, Nevada's.
1296
01:19:16.319 --> 01:19:19.840
Okay, sure? And how recent was this?
1297
01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:22.119
About five years ago?
1298
01:19:22.680 --> 01:19:25.399
Okay, got it and it's been.
1299
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:28.560
I never believed in bigfoot before that ever.
1300
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:30.840
I always thought it was a joke because that was
1301
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:35.079
a hunter, you know, and that we just we never
1302
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:40.079
saw that kind of stuff. And it was it was,
1303
01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:45.920
it was mind changing, and you know that's what kind
1304
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:48.359
of caused me to think, Hey, you know, this isn't
1305
01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:50.880
something that happens every.
1306
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:57.760
Day one hundred percent? Was there something? What were the
1307
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.319
main things that you noticed when when it was charging
1308
01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:05.000
at you that made you think, okay, this is something.
1309
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:09.039
This is probably a big foot rather than like an
1310
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:11.119
elk or a bear or something on top.
1311
01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:14.760
Well, I could see it from the waist up and
1312
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:19.159
it was running at me. I knew it was no help,
1313
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:23.840
and the screaming was no elk, and yeah it was.
1314
01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:27.840
It was no help. I mean, I've heard every mountain
1315
01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:31.079
lion elk, dear you name it, I've heard it all.
1316
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:34.319
It was nothing that I've ever heard before.
1317
01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:38.359
Can you describe what you saw from the waist up?
1318
01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:46.760
Then I saw huge legs and they were extremely wide,
1319
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:51.399
thick legs coming at us. And I didn't have a gun,
1320
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:54.760
and so I had the camera, you know, I'm filming
1321
01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:59.760
it and I fall down and my brother in law
1322
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:03.880
he's start shooting. He went shooting at it because he
1323
01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:05.960
didn't he didn't know what it was for sure, so
1324
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:09.159
he was shooting up to get it, you know, to
1325
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:14.720
run away. And it did go, but it was it
1326
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:17.560
was I've never been back to that.
1327
01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:22.319
That area ever fascinating. Did it have an emotion to
1328
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:24.800
its face as it was coming towards you.
1329
01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:26.079
I never saw its face.
1330
01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:29.079
Oh okay, so you're saying, sorry, it's more you saw
1331
01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:31.239
from the waist down or.
1332
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:32.640
The waist up waist down.
1333
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:38.000
No, that's that's totally different. Okay, gotcha. Interesting, Wow, you
1334
01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:45.119
saw these massive legs. So okay. So you mentioned so
1335
01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:48.239
you have are you guys actively researching this? You mentioned
1336
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.279
you have like a channel or or something like that.
1337
01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:54.199
I mean, I've got footage of faces and all kinds
1338
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:54.600
of stuff.
1339
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:57.359
But that's that's not why I'm calling it.
1340
01:21:57.960 --> 01:21:59.720
I got it, sure, you know.
1341
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:04.119
It's just that was my introduction to this whole thing
1342
01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:10.159
because before that I was I always hunted, dish everything else,
1343
01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:12.960
you know, and the and in.
1344
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:16.359
Remote areas never had problems. And this was the first
1345
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:21.119
I was building a cabin. This is how it started.
1346
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:22.039
As I was.
1347
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:26.079
Building a cabin and we came across these tracks in
1348
01:22:26.119 --> 01:22:28.279
the winter that made no sense.
1349
01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:32.479
They were like huge tracks across.
1350
01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:36.560
The property, and I just thought, well, maybe it was
1351
01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:40.199
a mountain lion chasing a deer, you know, or something
1352
01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:40.760
like that.
1353
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:46.279
But yeah, it wasn't, you know, we couldn't figure it out.
1354
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:49.920
So from that point that's when we started looking around
1355
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.960
and started finding things we shouldn't have found.
1356
01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:59.239
I guess what were the things you you feel like
1357
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:00.960
you shouldn't have found that you found?
1358
01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:05.079
Well, I mean, when you find an elk femur bone,
1359
01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:12.960
oh brown, it's been broken and there's no it's not
1360
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.520
like an axe or a knife or anything broken.
1361
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:20.319
And they sucked out the marrow. That's not normal.
1362
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:26.399
You can't break the femur bone without an axe, no
1363
01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:31.960
human anyway. And we saw that and we're like, Okay,
1364
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:37.279
that's not normal. And then and that was the same
1365
01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:41.159
area where this all happened. And then from there we
1366
01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:44.159
just we've kind of stayed away from it.
1367
01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:45.439
I still have.
1368
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:51.960
Never gone back, wow to the cabin area.
1369
01:23:52.520 --> 01:23:54.920
No, I have my cabin, but I've never gone back
1370
01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:01.159
to that area. It wasn't here the the I don't
1371
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:05.159
know if it's a rush or a bluff charge, whatever
1372
01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:05.560
it was.
1373
01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:09.000
It was. It was a long ways from here. But
1374
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:12.479
I've never gone back.
1375
01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:15.319
Have you?
1376
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:19.199
Are you? Guys? Then talking to other people in the
1377
01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:23.359
area and finding other people that have had similar experiences
1378
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:24.359
or anything like that.
1379
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:26.479
Yeah, Yeah.
1380
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:29.800
There was a guy that posted a note in the
1381
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:34.079
town close to here that said beware there's something huge
1382
01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:41.399
that's lurking around the cattle. And I mean they won't
1383
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:43.800
say big boot, but that's what it is, you know.
1384
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:46.439
Yeah, it's here.
1385
01:24:48.680 --> 01:24:50.920
That's interesting. Was that just in a gas station or
1386
01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:59.439
like on Facebook or station? No way? Really breaking out?
1387
01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:05.319
You know? That is some wild stuff, dude.
1388
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:06.159
And I know the guy.
1389
01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:10.439
I won't talk to him, and he's he just he
1390
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:11.640
won't come up here with me.
1391
01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:16.760
I asked him. I'm like, hey, come on up, let's go.
1392
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:17.239
Let's go.
1393
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:19.199
Look where you saw that gnawing and go.
1394
01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:24.720
I mean, don't don't give up. It could take years
1395
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:26.039
for him to get to that point, you know.
1396
01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:31.479
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I've had footage. I've got
1397
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:36.640
footage of a sasquatch leaning back and forth looking at
1398
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:44.479
me from twenty yards away, you know. And it was difficult.
1399
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:50.279
You know, is that on a is that public.
1400
01:25:50.039 --> 01:25:56.439
Or I'm not going to say anything about that, but yeah, yeah,
1401
01:25:56.479 --> 01:25:58.880
it's real, you know, And.
1402
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:05.760
It was difficult. I didn't know what to do because
1403
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:07.079
I thought it was stupid.
1404
01:26:07.079 --> 01:26:11.439
I thought, yeah, that's you know, I didn't notice at
1405
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.640
the time until it started weaving, and then I just
1406
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:15.600
didn't know what to do.
1407
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:17.359
And then they just kind of walked away.
1408
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:21.920
But that and there's you know, there's other things.
1409
01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:23.199
I mean, there's.
1410
01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:31.039
I've been doing it for ten years. And oh crap,
1411
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:38.800
it's not just Oregon. I'm just telling you the Southwest.
1412
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:45.119
It's not you know, I mean the high Desert. They're there,
1413
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:51.760
They're everywhere, and they're not stupid. But they're not aggressive either,
1414
01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:57.560
I don't think, at least to me. You know, I
1415
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:02.560
felt worse, you know, I felt worse, uh, predation by
1416
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:08.960
mountain lions. I've seen them stocking there, okay, but but
1417
01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:09.800
nothing like that.
1418
01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:18.000
Have you talked to anyone from First Nations background in
1419
01:27:18.039 --> 01:27:21.640
the area to get their thoughts about about what's going on?
1420
01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:24.159
I have you have?
1421
01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:26.199
Okay, that's awesome.
1422
01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:29.119
And they told me to stop?
1423
01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:33.279
Really why, oh so, why did they tell you to stop?
1424
01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:34.159
That's very interesting.
1425
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:41.640
They just told me it's not a good idea. Oh wow, yeah. Yeah.
1426
01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:42.279
And I and.
1427
01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:47.000
You know, the only place I ever felt, you know,
1428
01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:51.399
fear was the first place I went. Other than that,
1429
01:27:51.479 --> 01:27:56.840
I've never I've never had fear ever, you know, but
1430
01:27:56.880 --> 01:28:00.960
that one place was just not good. That you could
1431
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:07.520
feel it before anything happened. Something wasn't right. And have
1432
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:09.680
we not had a gun. I don't know. I mean,
1433
01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:12.960
we didn't shoot anything, but have we not had a
1434
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:14.079
gun to shoot off?
1435
01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:17.319
You know, scared up? I don't know.
1436
01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:22.960
Yeah, yeah, it makes you wonder. But Man, Titan, I am.
1437
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:26.560
I'm following you. I'm gonna check out your account, but
1438
01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:30.239
keep us up to date with if you experience anything
1439
01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:34.119
else out there. It sounds like you're actively looking into
1440
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:36.760
what's going on in the area, So I appreciate you
1441
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:45.119
coming up Man and Sharon and stuff. That's a wild
1442
01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:49.520
area too, Sierra Nevada's my goodness, he is in the
1443
01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:53.319
right area to be looking around. Before we wrap this episode,
1444
01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:56.000
I want to say something directly to a very specific
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group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or,
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and if you've seen something that no one can explain,
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or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker
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who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a
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pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or
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if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working
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intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to
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talk about, and if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search
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and rescue responder, who's heard screams or found tracks that
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didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry on
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a remote oil field, or a trucker with government contracts
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and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul.
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And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a
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field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not
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allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary, or
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someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something that
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shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows CIA,
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NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the
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public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even
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if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society
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at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what
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you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.
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You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you
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in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode
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of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds
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us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,
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and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the
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tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure
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to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell
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the show. And remember, if you or someone you know
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has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear
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from you. Thank you, so email me at Bigfoot Society
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at gmail dot com and let's start the conversation. If
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you haven't gotten a chance yet, check out our membership
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it's a place to connect with other people that are
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into the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks
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again for following along with the Bigfoot Society until next time,
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keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop
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asking what else might be out there? And see you
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in the woods.