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Brian didn't start in product. He started in email marketing, back when email marketing was still new. He talked his way into product management at a startup that had none, made a few mistakes, learned on the fly, and never looked back. Now he's Senior Director of Product Management at CloudForce, building Nebula One, an AI gateway that gives universities, hospitals and governments a secure way to deploy AI without losing control of it.
In this episode of Beyond Zenith, Brian sits down with Nicola Moss to talk about walking into CloudForce as its first dedicated product leader with no roadmap to inherit, why he's a self confessed Claude fanboy who's only now starting to test the others, the real cost behind the AI bill that's coming due for every company giving away free tokens, why the intern test is the best way to get people started with AI, and what he thinks won't change about product leadership no matter how far AI goes.
