Austin Black

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I'm here with Austin Black.
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Austin reached out to me, I think a couple of weeks ago to get on here.
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And we've kind of been trying to figure out a time schedule to get sorted out.
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And it's been pretty hectic, but we're going to start this episode the same way.
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We start all of them.
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Austin, I don't think was ready for this.
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So you might, he's going to whip one out here really quick.
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But what, what quote you got for us today?
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I just always been told to just hang your head high and to never quit.
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And that's just been my grandpa always telling me that because my grandpa
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raised and he just told me never to quit.
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And you'll find you'll end up winning something soon. Yeah.
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I think that's really easy to kind of in the racing world do is, is to quit
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just because you it's not something that comes easy whatsoever.
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No, no, it's expensive.
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And then when you don't have something go your way, you realize it's even more
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expensive and then you get beat down and you see a lot of people,
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you know, show up a week or two and then you kind of just never see from them again.
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So like not quitting, I would say is a pretty big, you know, thing is just stick
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with it. Like I said, eventually things are going to go your way.
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And, you know, when we had Chris on here, you know, two episodes ago, you know,
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we talked about that, you know, it's the quote for that episode.
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And I've had a lot of people reach out to me.
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It was wait for the rain.
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And it's, you know, he said the same thing, like, eventually, if you just
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keep kind of grinding, you'll get, you'll get that, you know, result that you,
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you want to have, um, and then it kind of makes the struggle and all the hard work,
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you know, worth it to the end.
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Um, so my quote for this week, uh, is, you know, don't eat with people
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that you wouldn't starve with.
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Um, and for me, I think, you know, you look at it and you kind of on the surface,
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you're like, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
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But it's like, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to invite people to my
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table to eat with me.
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Um, if you weren't there with me when I was going through it, when I was grinding,
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you know, when I was, you know, looking for some help and you weren't there,
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don't come in, you know, bask in the celebration with me.
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Cause it's like, you know, you kind of look at racing sector.
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It's like when I was finishing 20th, 19th, 18th, I was wrecking cars.
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I was, you know, building them back up during the week.
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If you weren't there, don't show up in victory lane for the victory lane photo
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and say you were part of the team.
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That's what happened to me was, uh, I raced dirt trucks for a year and a half,
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two years and all my buddies were wanting to come over and help out.
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And they were there for two, three months.
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And then they realized, well, this is a lot of work and they just stopped
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showing up to the shop and they show up to the races.
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And, uh, we won my, I won my first dirt truck race back in 2020.
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And, uh, all my buddies started showing up in the picture and I'm just looking around.
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I mean, I'm in the moment not realizing it.
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And then I looked back at the picture.
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I said, well, they're not there half the time at the shop.
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So why am I, why, why do I want them in the picture with me?
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One, when all the glory is there.
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And then now I don't even talk to them guys anymore because that's all they wanted.
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And I, like I said, I was firsthand for me.
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And I know a lot of, there's a lot of people just like that out there.
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Yeah.
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I'm the same way for me.
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It's like, uh, you know, I moved back up here and I remember like, I'm going to
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remember the people that offered me the first gigs or the first opportunities to do things.
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And, um, you know, I'm, I'm going to remember the people that offered a trailer
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to put my stuff in when I needed it.
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Um, cause you know, eventually down the road, you know, I, I get messages and it's like,
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oh, this is, you know, you're great.
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You're on your way.
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And it's like, when I, if I ever break out and you know, I'm, I'm so devoted to
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breaking out of at some point here.
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Um, but when I do, it's like, I'm going to remember who helped me.
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And who reached out and all that.
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And it's, it's going to be on those, you know, I'll, I'll do anything for anybody,
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but don't, you know, don't come celebrate when you were, you know, I'm the, the sideline,
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you know, talking.
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And it took me four races this year before somebody was mouthing about me to somebody else.
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I was like, I am, I'm blown away for races.
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And I don't think I talked to anybody during those four weeks either.
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I was, you know, I think I talked to the people that I knew because I knew them.
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Uh, and then I kept to myself and I was at a one night standing in the infield and I
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heard my name and then I started listening and it was basically just a dog on me because
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I was doing something that nobody else was doing, um, because I was doing video and I
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have to do certain different things and, and all that.
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I was just, I sat there and I was like four races.
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That's all it took four races.
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And I remember I messaged my, uh, good buddy, um, that does photography in mostly in Indiana,
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but he does a lot of usack stuff, 24 hours of Daytona.
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I messaged him and I was like, Hey, do you ever have this in your, your world?
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And he's like, no.
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And he's like, that's why I avoid wing grace cars.
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And I was like fair, fair enough.
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So yeah, it's just, you know, I'm going to remember that and down the road when, you know,
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maybe one day when, when I have the breakthrough or I hit something or whatever.
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Um, and that person, you know, if they reach out to me and they're like, Oh, you know,
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I know, I always knew you could do it.
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I'm going to remember big.
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No, no.
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Like I said, I didn't know we didn't, I mean, I didn't know who you were.
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And then I seen you, I seen stuff on Facebook.
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I was like, man, this guy does pretty good work.
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Like just to be like, like you said, the video is like nobody else does those.
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And just seeing that was like, all right, well, I want a video club, collab made or whatever.
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And, uh, how you, uh, go to the pits and you focus in on the driver when he's in the car.
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And then you do a video when he's out on the track.
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I mean, and you put all that together.
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It's like, well, that's pretty bad ass now.
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And, and it helps like with our sponsors too.
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And some people don't realize that is like, our sponsors want to see that stuff.
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Cause most of them can't get out to the races as it is.
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And when you do that, it, I think it boosts them more to, oh, hey, that's like,
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that'll help us out more.
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And then it can get on like their page or whatever, not just a picture because that's all,
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all you're going to get mostly with any photographer is a picture.
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That's how you're going to get, but like, well, you do it's, I mean, it's out, I mean,
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I think it's out of this world cause we haven't had anybody like that around here to do that.
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Yeah. It's, I look at things.
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Trendy wise. And, and I know, and I've talked to a lot of people on like short form video,
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is the new, the new thing, you know, you had Vine initially for the older folks that remember
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that one. And then now it's tick tock. And then you have Instagram reels and Facebook and,
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and all that and videos just like for me, it's, it's the way to go. You get so much more out of it.
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It is way more time consuming. I, at times like think about when I was a photographer for bands,
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and I'm like, wow, it was really easy because all I had to do was hit a button and then it
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took me five seconds to do a photo. Now I'm spending, I think I did three hours the other
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night making that video for Attica, but yeah, it's just different. And you know, I appreciate
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all that. And to, you know, move back up here too was a really big thing. And I kind of knew when I,
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when I dove into it, like they were going to be like, who is this kid? And I also knew that,
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like some of the old timers that have been around for a while and, you know, knew my dad and have
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known me since I was, I was a little, we're going to know. But yeah, it's, it's been a fun, fun journey
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and to get to do it. And then, you know, every, every week I learned something new. And I'm like,
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man, I wish I'd have known that four weeks ago and, and, and all that, but it goes back and forth.
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So I want to dive into your side. I know that, you know, I host a podcast and all that and
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people get to hear me talk plenty as we get on the road. But you said you race trucks,
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your family was into it before that. So kind of like give, give a rundown of that, like your
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childhood, when you got introduced and then kind of at what point were you like, you know, I'm
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going to do this, I want to do this. And so started off when I was four years old. Dad put me in a
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go cart in the garage, put the old headphones on my ear. So I wasn't scared of the motor and
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we race carts from when I was four to
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oh, 18, I think it was 17. So we race, we race carts for 14 years. Dad thought it was just
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going to be a little drift and get in, get back out. And we didn't, we didn't miss one, one season
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of go carts. We raced around here for a couple years. And then we decided to start traveling more.
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We raced down or race different states like Indiana, Pennsylvania, Michigan, stuff like that.
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And then once, once they started changing rules and everything, excuse me,
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we just decided like, Hey, let's let's get out of it. Let's get out of this. And
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then, you know, Jimmy McGrath, his dad had a dirt truck down the road. And we went and talked to him
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and sold all the go car stuff, bought the dirt truck, race that in 2020, first rookie season,
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got rookie of the year, first race, or I should say not first race, first win, I should say rookie
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year. And then in 2021, I rewrecked the dirt truck and broke my collarbone sternum. And it just sat.
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So we're like, okay, well, they started doing the same thing. They started changing stuff on us,
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saying we had to run, we had to do coil overs and we didn't have to do coil overs, but it was a,
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if we want to compete, you got to change everything. So we decided to sell that and sold
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that just to buy the motor for a 305. And everyone was asking me, well, is that about the same price?
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Like a sprint car about the same price as truck, I said, and I told them, I sold everything for
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the dirt truck just to buy the motor for a 305. That tells you the difference. And they're just
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amazed on what the price difference is. And that goes back to what we were talking about before
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about all the prices and stuff. But then we decided in 22, you had 22 buy a 305, go out and race,
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missed rookie of the year by like one. And then broke my back at Attica at the Attica ambush.
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I was out for the rest of the year, went back 23, raised the full season. And then this year,
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we were all right. And then, but I mean, it's been in my blood since I was a baby.
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My dad, he didn't race, he just helped out. He was, he helped out on John Ivy's car.
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It was his brother in law, actually. So I got raised up into that, my grandpa,
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he raised my great grandpa, my dad's dad, my mom's dad. I mean, it's just, it's all in me. And
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I don't think it's ever going to get out. I mean, my family, my grandma asked me,
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are you going to get out of it anytime soon? I said, no, probably not, not till I'm probably
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crippled and old, just like Paul Weaver. And I mean, just, I mean, those guys, I just watch
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all those guys and I was like, well, if they can do it at that age, I can, I know I can do it at that
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age. But I guess that's how I started. And I just never quit. So I think it's been 18 years now,
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19 years of iteration. I mean, I think it's pretty wild that I've been racing that long.
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But at the same time, I know there's people racing that's a lot more.
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Yeah. How old were you when you got out of carts? We're going to go down, we're going to go down a
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rabbit hole here real quick. And everyone, everyone that knows me knows where this is about to go.
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I think like 17, I think it was 18.
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How much did you, because at that age, you have a pretty good idea of the landscape of things.
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How much did you want to get out of carts? Like, were you at a point where you were hating it just
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because of how the culture was? Or were you kind of? It was more or less like, it was favoritism
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around here, like Fremont Attica. A lot of people say there's, it isn't, but there's a lot of people
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that say that there is favoritism. So that's why we traveled. And when we traveled, it was like,
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the community when you traveled was a lot better and like felt like you were at home,
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but you had to travel three and a half hours, two hours and go to a different track.
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And we just got tired of spending money to go to a hotel and race down there. And, but yeah,
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I mean, the community, I mean, the family down there was nice and with everybody, but
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but dad, he was getting tired of it. Grandpa, he was driving the trailer down for us because he
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had a bigger truck and he was getting old. I mean, he's getting older so he can't be doing it a lot
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more. And so we just decided like, hey, this isn't going to be what we're going to be doing my whole
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life. And I know there's a lot of people that do race when they're older. And I just, I wanted to go
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bigger. I wanted to race that frame. I've always wanted to race at Freemont Attica. And it's just
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a matter of time of what we were going to do and how we were going to do it. Cause Freemont,
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they ended up with a compact series when I was younger, thought that was going to be a thing.
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And then they quit that. And then they, then they brought the 602 crate late models. We were going
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to do that. Then they got rid of that. So it was like, okay, what do we do now? And so that's when
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we bought the truck. And then, then it looked back, I guess. Yeah. When you were traveling for
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go carts, did you guys, you know, I'm not super familiar with it here in Ohio. I know a lot of
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places down south are kind of like the bigger super speedways. And it's not even racing at that
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point. It's all drafting. It's all drafting. And it's, I'm going to move this guy out of the way.
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And then everyone cries that they got moved and all that. Is that scene up here the same? Or is
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it a little bit more friendly to true racecraft? And it's not like, I'm just going to push this guy
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out of the way. And then I'm going to get pushed and then moved. And then basically the guy in
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last place is going to win because eventually everyone in front of them just gets moved out of
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the way. It's, uh, I mean, I mean, I raised big tracks and it is all drafting. I mean,
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you don't start double file at all. You start single file with big tracks like that. And, uh,
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around here, it's, they started what I noticed because I've been out for a while and I don't
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know how they're doing it now, but I went to a go cut race this year and they started single file.
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And it's just a small, I mean, there's small tracks. It's like, why are you doing this? Well,
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I see them looking at like more like a safety reason why. So they're not going too wide and
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in the little tiny corner, but at the same time it was like, when I was racing, that's all we did.
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So why are you taking that away? And now you're like acting as we're big babies and we can't
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figure out how to race each other. And then that's how they all, that's how they race for the entire
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race is all single file. I was like, this is not a drafting track guy. He's like, what are we doing?
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And like her, her, her brother, he raises cards. So I, that's what I did this year. I raised one
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time at Martinsville over in Attica and I was like, what are we doing? He goes, oh, it's all
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single file. I said, since when? So he told me, I was like, oh, that's, I was like a year after I
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got out. So I didn't know what was going on. And it's a lot different than what I used to do.
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It was all double file. I mean, it was, it was actually racing. Now it all came to single file.
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And you're trying to draft on a non drafting track pretty much. And then when you hit somebody and
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spend them out, then they're mad because you hit them and spun them out. But it's like, well,
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you can't do anything about it because I'll track how small the track is. And it's just,
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I don't, I don't like it. I don't think I'd ever go back to go car racing, but it's something that
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gave me a cart like her brother did. I would. Yeah. So then you get out of your, you go through that,
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you get out of it, and then you get into trucks and like how big of a difference or like a learning
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curve was it for you to go from carts to something like that? Because they're not similar at all.
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Not even close. And, you know, I know tire perhaps a pretty big thing in carts. So you kind of get
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into the truck scene where that maybe dies off a little bit. What was that transition like? I mean,
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did it, did it come easier than you were expecting or? I mean, going from a cart that doesn't have any
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suspension or anything and going to a truck that's 3000 pounds and a go car that's
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300 pounds with you in it, maybe it's a big difference. And then you got, you got all the
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extra horsepower in front of you and always told to, Hey, the truck's going to drive on the right
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rear and the right front, like it's going to drive on the right side and go carts, you don't really
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drive off of anything, maybe the left rear, but you don't feel that hardly. I mean, you feel it a
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little bit, but with the trucks in it, when I hit one up, so when I went to free my the first night,
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and I hit the gas and I was like, Oh, this is, this is different. And then getting the truck
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sideways into the corner, not knowing how to compensate for that and just learning. And
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I mean, it only took a couple races. I was starting to figure it out and what to do and
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how the truck was reacting. And I mean, I had people that was coming up to me that was racing
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for so long telling me and telling my dad how much they're surprised on how I
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evolved around it so quick and so fast. And they were telling me that I should be racing trucks
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my entire life to where race truck couple years, you get a sprint car. Well, they were talking like
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three, four years in a truck and then evolve into a sprint car. And
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that's just it was a different feeling. It was a lot different feeling than just sitting straight
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up or laying down pretty much in a go cart and then sitting straight up with your feet out in a
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truck. I had to get used to that too. That was a weird, that was a weird feeling. We're in a
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Honda's device, then had to wear a Honda's device in a go cart. I mean, we race cage cart, so I was
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used to a five point harness. But I mean, yeah, people were surprised that I evolved around it
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so quick. I thought I was going to take me maybe a full season to even make an eight main. But I
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mean, I was making eight mains within the second race. And just I still remember Cory McCoy coming
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up to me, he's like, you ever raced a big car? I said, no. And he just always he just told me,
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hey, make sure you keep a lot. If you're running the bottom run in the middle, make sure you keep a
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line or lane up above you. I'm going on Australia if there's somebody up above you, just so they
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can pass you. Well, I messed up once and he was behind me and he hit me came down to the track
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come down the trailer and he goes, remember what I told you? I said, yeah, he goes, all right.
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He goes, if I he goes, if I was nice, he goes, if I wasn't nice enough, he goes, I would have
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took you out. So just remembering that learning that and just taking from the veterans that
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been racing just helped me out a lot and just trusting the car itself, trusting the truck,
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believing in everybody else that said, you can do it, just use your head and you know,
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because you've raced this before, like, you know what to do, just use your head. And ever since then,
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I just felt the car on how it would how it would react and just go from there. I mean, yeah, we're
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not we're not winning, but I mean, we're going forward. Yeah. That's probably the bigger or
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biggest part about it is just seeing improvement kind of through it because it's easy to want to
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stay positive and upbeat and encouraged when you're when you're doing good and you're moving
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through the field. It's a little bit different way if it's going backwards or all that. You
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mentioned Corey McCoy. When you saw obviously go through carts and then you moved into trucks.
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Obviously, Corey came and talked to you. Was there anybody else that you know, you either looked to
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or kind of had conversations with more than somebody else for like advice or tips or like who
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was kind of someone that you looked at and said, you know, I respect your ability or like, I love
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how you do this. Like, let me learn from you. So the first person I went and talked to was John
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Ivy. And because he rate, I mean, I always looked up to him no matter what. And he taught me a lot
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in go carts taught me a lot. And like, when we were getting the truck, when we meet my dad, we're
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getting the truck when talked to him was like, Hey, how do you even like go about driving one of
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these? And he just talked to me a little bit. And he just then in the sprint car, he taught me a
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lot about the sprint car. And he was probably he was probably the biggest, the biggest one I talked
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to about everything that I've ever raced, because he was the one that raced everything so far. And
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he just helped me out a lot. I talked to
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them tractors. There I mean, there was a lot of people I mean, I talked Brian Sabito,
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them guys like that. I mean, but they, they were all watching me grow up. And I was watching them
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race on the big tracks and want to be like them. So I always went to them talk to them.
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I mean, there's there's guy, there's plenty of guys out there that I can talk to,
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because they all knew my dad too. So then once I started coming about, then they're like, Oh,
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yeah, you're Kenny Blacks boy or whatever. And we'll start talking, then they'll start helping me out.
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Yeah, when you so when you jumped to 305s, the people you talked to changed all that you add
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anyone new or was it kind of the same people? Pretty much about the same people. I mean,
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besides Corey, because he didn't really I mean, he knows stuff, but not not enough, I guess you
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could say, unlike the guys that have been racing. Like again, John Ivy, Paul Weaver,
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Jim McGrath, Jr. Dustin Dine in just all those guys like that session nighter.
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But like then what us rookies that came in, you had me Tyler sheets, Logan Monju.
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I can't or hold Miller like all of us that started racing pretty much the same time period.
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We go out whatever race, we come in and we talk to each other and like,
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hey, this is like if we're in the same heat with each other and we notice something like,
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hey, my car is a little better than what yours was, maybe you can improve on this and then we
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all talk to each other and just go back and forth and then we change some stuff and go back out for
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the be main or feature or whatever. And then like the next week, because we won't talk to each other
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after the races for some reason, I don't know why, but next race, the next race, we talk to each
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other like, Hey, how last week finished or how do you do how the car feel after we talked and just
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doing that and knowing like, some of the guys that didn't race before they came in the sprint
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cars. And now that they're racing them, they are doing pretty well for themselves. Like I thought
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I'd get in and just be top 10 all the time because I because they're my racing history, I should say.
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And it wasn't. And then you then I seen the guys that weren't racing all their life,
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they get in the sprint cars and they're finishing top 10s, top fives. It's like,
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okay, what am I doing wrong that they're doing right for not racing all their life.
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So then we just talking, but we have close races with each other. I mean, I mean,
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I can't even fit a piece of paper in between our tires. And it's just that mentality of, hey,
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these guys pay for their own stuff too, just like I do. And then you get that,
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you get some of those drivers that don't pay for their stuff and they don't care what they do to
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their car. And you're trying to raise them and you can total both your cars at the same time.
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And then you go talk to them and then they, they don't really want to talk to you. But if you're
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you're like me and Logan, Monju, we're like best friends on and off the track. We'll race each other
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clean, we'll race each other hard, no matter what, just same thing as Tyler Sheets. Me and him
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had a good race, a couple of races during the season where we were right on top of each other.
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And we're racing for 13th, 14th. And it's not like we're racing for the lead, but at the same time,
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it's we're still racing, but we're going to race each other hard and clean. And he was happy that
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he didn't get raced like he usually does when he's trying to race for 10th or whatever.
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It's just, it's a fun community with, I should say, like the rookies that came in now we're racing
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two or three years in a row now. And you just, you'll have that friendship no matter what I think
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anyways. And it's, they come to the track, they need something, my trailer is there. If I need
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something, their trailer is there. I mean, we've already established that with each other. And
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I don't think that's ever going to go away. So that's when I pretty much stopped talking to the
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veteran guys. I mean, I still talk to Paul Weaver and him. But as rookies, I should say,
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might as well call us rookies still, because there's no other rookies pretty much out there.
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We just, we get each other, we know what we're doing, and we just go about it, I guess.
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Yeah, I think we kind of, it comes in waves. Like you get a year with a lot of new people,
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and then you kind of go a year or two without it. And you need another year of a lot of new people.
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And obviously the economic side of it is always changing. And the last, you know,
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roughly three years or so hasn't been the greatest economically. So it, you know,
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no surprise or not, maybe see a mass wave of new people in. So you kind of keep the same
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younger class intact. You had mentioned you pay for all your own stuff that you had sold the truck
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to kind of get the 305 engine and all that. What going into that? Like what was the decision
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making process from going to the truck to the 305? Was it kind of a, you know, this makes more sense
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financially long-term or we're ready for this, or we'd rather do this. And then like now that you're
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in it and you're kind of maintaining that, you know, the car, is there any, like, is there a
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tie in the kind of look and say, I kind of wish I was in trucks just because it's a little bit
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cheaper or, you know, what goes on in that in your head and that. So it all had led back to
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go carts to where it was, okay, we got this much wrapped up in the go carts, we can afford a dirt
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truck or 305 or whatever. And that's when we sold, like I said, we sold the go car stuff to get the
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truck. And then once we started raising the truck and we started, started buying me, my dad started
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buying stuff for the truck. And we just started realizing like, if we're going to do this forever,
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we're going to have more money wrapped up into this than we would a full roller with a motor in a
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305. So it's like, they pay more in the end to make this show or whatever, they're only paying
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200 bucks to start the AMain or whatever it is now, I should say, more to win. But the trucks, they,
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they, they only, I mean, they're only racing for four or five 600 bucks, at least. And now 305s are
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racing for 1000 to $1,200 a night, you get the 410s racing for 4000 to win. But it was just,
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it's going to be better competition. But at the same time, it was going to be
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you're going to find out like, you're going to separate the men from the boys pretty much is
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what you're going to do. And that's what we're slowly doing is we were, we were that boy down
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the bottom. Now we're starting to become separating from them, becoming the man and everything else.
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And that's what I, that's what I've always wanted. But now I want more and I'm hungry for more. And
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it's just the money itself is getting more expensive. I mean, just like everything else,
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just like tires, tires are a big thing. So we'll wait to go to like maybe like a word of outlaw
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show or an all start where they don't have all stars anymore, fast show, I should say.
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Or if there's guys that come back from Knoxville or El Dora and they're, they're a local guy,
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they'll have tires no matter what, and they'll get rid of them. And they're, they're still brand new.
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I mean, almost they'll have one qualifying cycle on them, or a hot lap or whatever, and they'll
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get rid of them. And I mean, I just picked up 11 tires for 100 bucks. And it just amazed me on
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still what's left on the tires. And I mean, it's, they told me that the guy got them off of told
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me, he said, all of them only had one qualifying cycle on them from brand new. So I said, well,
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I'm not going to spend $350 on a brand new right rear. I'm going to buy these used ones and use
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them. And I mean, they don't, I mean, unless you keep them outside, they get dry rotted,
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but I got them in the garage now and they're staying there until next year.
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Yeah, it's, it's nice with Fremont Attica now, and especially now Attica, they got the same
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clay as Fremont. Like it is not abrasive at all. You're not going to burn through tires there. It's
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not like you're going to weed sport or a place like that that are abrasive and you kind of eat
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through tires and stuff like that. So I mean, here like, I know, I think Weaver's been, you know,
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one of those guys is kind of always just reuse tires, the max, because he knows that, you know,
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you can save money and they're just as good as new. And it's one thing I really like now
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with Paul Silva and what Larson are doing is, you know, obviously Silva's got this, you know,
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a lot of mince words. He's got better equipment than your average person does. But, you know,
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we, you looked at Knoxville this year, they come in for the halfway break and nearly everybody
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changes the right rear and he kept his on and was like, yeah, I don't see it's not wearing any,
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so why change it? And, you know, you kind of watch it and you're like, oh, I don't, I don't know if
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that was the right decision, but then you kind of think about it and you're like, well, the guy
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knows what he does. And then two, you know, I also looked at like this after the fact, you know,
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if I have a tire that's, that's winning me the Knoxville Nationals and it's been good up until
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that point, why change it to something else that might not be as good? Because every tire is different.
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Obviously, everyone's aware of the whole issue with Hoosiers a couple of years ago, not being
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the chalk marks and they were, you know, inches off and all that, you know, why change something
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that's working, why fix something that's not broken type thing. So yeah, I mean, I get it,
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like I understand, you know, reusing tires, it makes sense and it's one of those ways, you know,
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if you're changing a tire, I'll say every other night, that's $500 plus a weekend that you're
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swapping out on top of fuel and pit passes and it's really $500 that most people probably don't
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need to spend. Now dive in there too, you guys, you know, talk about kind of building up. Is the
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plan right now to stay with the 305? Is there aspirations to eventually go to a 410? Like what,
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what is kind of your, what are your short term goals for next year? And then what are like the
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longer five year goals look like? Short term is just to win a main and a 305. That's, I mean,
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that's, I guess the biggest goal for everybody that's in any kind of division. I mean, we talked,
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but want to be more or less better to prove a point in a 305 than I guess, to get into a 410
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down the road. I guess I want, like I said, I want to win championships, win races to prove a point.
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But my goal was to eventually race for somebody, have somebody say, Hey, I want you to come race
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my stuff. I've seen how good you race or you are. Stuff like that. I mean, that's my long term goal,
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I guess, but around here, you won't really have that opportunity to race for somebody because
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either like them guys out in California, you either don't have the name that I've seen,
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or you don't have the money, I guess. And that's, that's a lot of guys around here. That's what
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they say, like either they don't have the name or you don't have the money. And I said, well, I
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always told myself, I want to be different. I actually want to do that and get that opportunity.
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But you won't know until you actually get the short term goals done first. And unless you hit,
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unless you do hit a long term goal first and just never know.
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Just never know. So I guess if let me reframe it a little bit here. So outside of the obviously
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the short term goals like win races, but next year, you know, through the course of the year,
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what goals do you guys have that you want to meet? Obviously, win a race is a big one.
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But is there kind of like an overarching season goal to want to meet or satisfy or at least get
410
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close to just be consistent? This year, we were not we were making so many we were making amades,
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not making some amades. I mean, we, we didn't really tear up a lot of stuff this year. So I
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kind of want to be that way too next year, but you just don't know what's going to happen.
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But the big thing is probably staying consistent, just a main after a main top 10 finishes,
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stuff like that, just just the small stuff that will eventually lead up to bigger things. And
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I guess that's probably the big that's probably the biggest goal for me next year, just staying
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consistent because we like we my crew guys, they like to change stuff. And I tell them like, Hey,
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the car is doing what it's supposed to be doing. That tracks changing. Let's wait a little bit
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to see what happens. And then if we change it for the B main, if we got to run the B main,
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and we don't make it, I yell at them because, Hey, like the car was good. Like that's what I
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need to don't change it. And that's that's why I talk about I guess being consistent is we're
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not staying consistent. And that's what I want to be just to be in those positions of top 10,
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top five finishes, maybe winning the race or whatever it comes to be. Yeah. I think it's easier
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to build off of consistency too, because it kind of sets a benchmark for you to go off of. I know
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in the last 10 years of my life, consistency has been like the number one thing that I've,
425
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I think, flourished the from or flourished from the most, just because you know what's there,
426
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you have an idea of what your bedrock is, so to speak, where you kind of get in these areas of
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inconsistency and you're sitting there and you're like, we did really good this week. And then we
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tried to make it better and then we did worse. Let's go back to that. And then you're kind of
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bouncing back and forth. And then it just, you're never in a rhythm. And I think in racing, especially
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it's that rhythm is a huge part of it. Because once you feel good and you get that rhythm and you
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feel like you're on pace and you're doing better, it's easier to kind of slowly build and build,
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build, build and build off of it to where, you know, eventually you're going to get to where
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you want to be. I think you're going to, you know, achieve the short term goal and all of that.
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Now going into this off season, like what do you, are you guys doing anything, you know,
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different or how do you, like, how do you go through the off season? Like what is the,
436
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the routine? Do you, do you kind of decompress once the season's over and, you know, put the car
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away and say, you know what, let's, let's take a break. Like how are you going to go through the
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winter? So like, I know for me, got a couple more races left, you know, middle stream, obviously,
439
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tonight, like I said, we're recording on the six, we have that. And then really from here,
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like I don't know many more races that I'm going to go to. I know Lawrenceburg next Saturday, I'll
441
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go as a fan. But like once, once we get through October or really through next weekend, I know
442
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for me, like I'm shutting, shutting all this out. Like my camera will likely go in my bag,
443
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it'll stay in a corner of the room until I need it. I'll edit videos here and there. I got a
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couple of projects I got to do for some people. But like, I'm going to put it away and then I'm
445
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going to go and just enjoy Toledo Wallah hockey. I'm going to go ice skating and freemot every
446
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weekend. Like I'm just going to get away. Cause like the last thing I want to do after racing
447
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scenes is over is think about racing. So like what are you, like how's your off season going to look?
448
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Well, motor's already in the shop. Dad, he's been hustling on it because I mean, I'm 30 minutes
449
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from mom and dad's house. And that's where the car is. So him not working, he'll just go out in the
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shop and mess around with the car. And here the one day I was going over to do something, I walked
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in, I said, why is the motor out? Or why did you get it out? I was coming over to help you.
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He said, well, I wasn't doing anything today. And he just, he does, he does that stuff. And
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why I'm, I mean, we just bought this house a couple of months ago. So we're trying to get
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stuff around for this. And he knows we're busy with me with working and her with working and the
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house and stuff like that. And he just likes to do that. So he'll just go about taking the car
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apart. And if he needs help, I go over, take the rear end out, but we'll strip it down pretty much
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before everything and get the motor to the right to the motor shop be pretty much before anybody
458
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gets over there. Be so we're not the last one in line. But then we'll just sit back for a while,
459
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enjoy like Thanksgiving, Christmas, stuff like that. Once the new, once the new year's comes about,
460
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then it's pretty much like crunch time because race season's only three months away.
461
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That's when we'll start doing tires, this mountain tires from this last, this last season and
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put a new rubber on and go through tires and put the start putting the car back together. And I just,
463
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we usually take October, November to disassemble everything rethink, okay, what happened this
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year? What can we do for next year? And then December, we pretty much just take off kind of,
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I mean, it's kind of on and off situation on kind of go, it's kind of a go with the flow situation.
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Dad calls me up, hey, I need you to speak in the work on the car. Okay, whatever, go work on the car.
467
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But if we need stuff for done or gone through the rear end needs gone through, we'll take it out,
468
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take it over to Keygains, get looked at. Then we got the swap meet coming up. Well, that's,
469
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that's a big thing is a swap meet over in Fremont is once racing season's done, we'll
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go through everything, kick our part. If we're going to sell the front axle to get a new front
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axle or whatever else will take everything apart, put in the trailer to sell. And then once swap
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meets over, everything sits in there till spring swap meet. And then once spring swap meets over,
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we'll get done with that. Everything come back out. Cars pretty much done because everything,
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all the swap meets stuff that we were selling is in the trailer out of the way for us to work on
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the car in the garage and we'll get the car done, car will be done sit there. And once it becomes
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two weeks before pretty much race season, we'll have the trailer unloaded and gone through car
477
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loaded up pretty much and just wait till race season, unless we get rained out, and cars got to
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come back out of the trailer. That's, that's one thing I ate when it rains out cars already loaded
479
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for the week and you got to unload it and wait again. But that's, that's pretty much like our
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off season, we just go with the flow pretty much. And if we got to rebuild the motor, we got to
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rebuild the motor. Just go through stuff, get rid of old stuff. If we got to buy new, we got to buy
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new. And other than that, that's pretty much all we do. Yeah. What, so when, when racing's over,
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obviously in the, you go through the shop and all that, and you're over there when you need to be,
484
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like what other hobbies you do in the winter to kind of decompress and like, do you have any that
485
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you do during the summer to decompress? We got a camper, so we'll go camping on the weekends. If
486
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we're not racing or when we started racing this year, we'd, I'd go racing and I come home or I'd
487
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come to the camper and just relax for a while and a couple hours and then get up, stay at the camp
488
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for a couple more hours and go to the races again, come back. But if we're not racing for a couple
489
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weeks, we're over at the camper. That's all we're pretty much doing. And that's, we're just,
490
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she's got to go to the store, go to the store that weekend or whatever and
491
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we'll come home. And if we don't want to go to the camper and we're not racing, we're just going to
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sit at home and just relax and just get away from the outside for a little bit and just
493
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watch some movies and do whatever we have to do. Off season, that's pretty much the same
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way. I mean, we're not going to be camping, but we'll go on, we'll go to different places. Like,
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she got me tickets to Bangal Steelers game December 1st, so we're going to go to that.
496
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Just different things you don't get to do in the summer. I mean, football season now,
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we'll watch football nonstop, hang out with family, do family things, I guess, with her family, my
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family. Just, I guess, just relax until race season comes back again, because it's just,
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I tell her, I said, it's one big cycle. Just talking. Just one big cycle. So that's,
500
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:16,420
you get, you get in that cycle and then you don't kind of get out of it because you know
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00:43:16,420 --> 00:43:21,300
what you're doing. I guess so that's, that's all. And that's, unless something happens,
502
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then we'll go do it or it's like a, Hey, let's go on vacation for a week. We'll go on vacation for
503
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a week, but just, you kind of don't really get away from racing even in the off season. If you
504
00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:38,820
want to, if you try to, it's like, well, if racing is going to be right around the corner, I got to
505
00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:43,620
make sure the car is done or I got to do this and I got to pay this guy off for the motor. I got to
506
00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:48,180
pay this guy off for the rear end or stuff like that. It's just, it's still in the back of your
507
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:51,220
mind. So it's like, man, I want to get that out of my head, but I can't get it out of my head.
508
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:56,180
Do you, do you ever get burnout? Like to a point where you're just like, you look at and you're
509
00:43:56,180 --> 00:44:00,740
like, I'm, I'm good. Like I don't want to, I don't want to touch it. I don't even want to go.
510
00:44:01,460 --> 00:44:10,260
This, this year was kind of that way. We raced AFCS full time besides one race. We went to,
511
00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:18,580
uh, went to Canada for a week. So I missed AFCS. Um, I raced Fremont full time, but Attica, we
512
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didn't race. If it was an AFCS race, we'd race Attica, but if it wasn't, we weren't racing and
513
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just like, I guess being away from this far from mom and dad where the car is, it's like,
514
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man, I don't want to drive 35 minutes mom and dad's house and be there for two hours when I drive
515
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:47,940
hour, hour and a half, 45 minutes to work and back, depending on where I'm working at. And
516
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just being dog tired by the time you, by the time I go to work on the car or then I got to drive
517
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another 35 minutes back home. It's like, man, I'm getting tired. I'm getting wore out. And it's just,
518
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sometimes I do like, like I said, this year was kind of that way, but at the same time, it's like,
519
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I want to race. I want to race. I want to race, but not really a lot been burnt out, but sometimes I
520
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:16,420
have and just like you said, don't want to touch it. Don't even want to look at it. Like that's
521
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why I told my dad, I said, I don't even want to race this weekend and he'll talk me into it. And
522
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then it's like, all right, well, let's go race. But it's just, I don't think I'm going to be to where
523
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I'm going to be done like burnout forever until like something drastically happens, I guess,
524
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because that's, that's what happened when I broke my back. Dr. told me it was if you ever have a
525
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wreck like this again, he goes, you probably won't be walking. So that's, that kind of got me a little
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bit. But at the same time, it just, that gave me motivation to just keep going and not to get
527
00:45:52,820 --> 00:45:59,700
burnt out, just keep going. But just some stuff happened this year and with family wise stuff
528
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:05,300
like that. So that's kind of, that kind of took me away from the racing portion of it. But once I
529
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:10,580
started getting back into the seat and started doing it more, I was like, I was saying, I'm
530
00:46:10,580 --> 00:46:14,980
not getting burned out. I'm not, I'm doing okay. But that's what I guess the off season's for is just
531
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you're, you're burnt out from it for a while, just relax and enjoy the off season till it comes
532
00:46:21,540 --> 00:46:26,500
it comes back up. Yeah. Tell me about that, that back injury a little bit, you know,
533
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you go through that, obviously those are kind of becoming a more,
534
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no, it was a common thing, but they're getting a little bit more attention now.
535
00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:40,180
You know, I reached with Chase Johnson out, out West, then you've had a couple more throughout
536
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the year. What happened? I don't know. The video flow, I have no idea what really happened out there.
537
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But you know, it's just been, you know, it's, it's becoming a lot more of a hot topic in, in the sport.
538
00:46:55,700 --> 00:47:00,260
And like, what was your experience going through that? What led up to it? What happened? And then
539
00:47:00,260 --> 00:47:07,220
what was kind of the, the aftermath slash, you know, hospital visit, the medical side of the rehab
540
00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:12,740
or, or, you know, all of that, like what from start to end, what was that process like? So
541
00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:17,300
I mean, you never, you're never going to think that you're going to break your back or anything.
542
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:23,220
And it's always a possibility because I was sitting that Attica the one night when Danny Smith
543
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:27,940
throttle stuck in turn four and hit the fence. I was there at night when he broke his back.
544
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And just seeing that and knowing like that's going to be me in that car one of these days. And
545
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is that going to be me breaking my back? And so it was September 2nd, Attica ambush, and we're
546
00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:49,780
supposed to race both nights, add the camper there, whatever. And we had to run the B main
547
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started, I think, eight or 10, something like that. And got the green one and turn one. And I just,
548
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I, when I get a chance, I watch the video and I watch it and I keep watching it. And
549
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trying to see what I can do differently or what I could have done differently. But there was a guy,
550
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:13,140
he went and he, he started second, I think, anyone there too hard and he started spinning out.
551
00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:18,580
Well, everybody started bunching up with each other. And the guy in front of me,
552
00:48:19,540 --> 00:48:28,820
he went high at the same time, I went high. And I kind of just close my eyes and turn right as
553
00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:34,740
hard as I could just get around around and well, when I turned right, I hit his right rear. And
554
00:48:34,740 --> 00:48:40,100
he already had his, he already had the throttle down to try to get away from around it. And once
555
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:44,100
I hit his right rear, my left front did, he just launched me. And when he launched me, I,
556
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I just, I saw it coming, but I didn't know how bad it was going to end up being. So what happened
557
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was when I hit his right rear, I came down, well, then when I came down, I came down on the crown
558
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of the track. And the crown of the track stuck the floor pan up and stuck the throttle wide open.
559
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And when that happened, it stuck, when it stuck the throttle open, it popped the wheelie on me
560
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and launched me off a turn two onto the back stretch pretty much at Attica. And if nobody
561
00:49:13,620 --> 00:49:19,380
knows what Attica is like, there's a huge drop off from one or two into the back stretch. And
562
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:25,060
when it launched me, it, it hit and launched me again. And I was just, I was up probably about
563
00:49:25,060 --> 00:49:31,940
15, 20 foot up in the air and came straight down on top of the tail tank. And I was sitting there
564
00:49:31,940 --> 00:49:36,420
and like, and I, Brian, this guy thought I flipped over because you hear him say I flipped over,
565
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:42,740
but I didn't flip over. But I just remember looking up into the sky and not knowing where I was
566
00:49:42,740 --> 00:49:48,260
when I was going in, when I was flying in the air and I was like, okay, how do you know that?
567
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:51,780
I was like, okay, how hard is this going to hurt? I know this is going to hurt. And I know I'm in
568
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:59,220
the air. And it's when it smacked the ground, I think I blacked out and I hit the concrete wall
569
00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:06,980
and did it. I flipped the 180 and they couldn't get the wing off. Then they, they had to cut it
570
00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:13,940
off pretty much got it off. They're going to get a backboard for me with a wrecker, get me out of
571
00:50:13,940 --> 00:50:18,580
the seat. I said, just let me sit here a minute. I said, let me see, because I couldn't feel my
572
00:50:18,580 --> 00:50:26,660
legs or my feet at all. And I said, hold on. I said, I said, let me see if I can move first.
573
00:50:26,660 --> 00:50:30,980
And I think it was just all the adrenaline going to where I couldn't feel anything. And that was
574
00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:36,820
a scary, scary moment when you're sitting there and it's like, man, my racing career is over already.
575
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:43,620
And I'm like, okay, I'm sorry, I can feel my toes wiggling. I can feel them. And I said, I said,
576
00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:47,060
I can feel my toes. Just give me just, I just was telling the emergency guys said, just, hey,
577
00:50:47,060 --> 00:50:52,420
just give me a minute. I said, let me see if I can get out. So I got out, got to the EMS.
578
00:50:54,740 --> 00:51:01,380
They took me to Bellevue Hospital was there for seven, seven and a half hours.
579
00:51:02,580 --> 00:51:07,540
I only got to see the doctor once and I, I wanted to strangle this doctor. He come in,
580
00:51:08,260 --> 00:51:13,220
within like the last hour of me being there, he goes, we got to transport you, but he goes,
581
00:51:13,220 --> 00:51:19,460
your back's broke. I said, yeah, my back's broke. I said, that's why I'm in here. I said, I already,
582
00:51:19,460 --> 00:51:23,140
I said, I had an x-ray four hours ago. And I said, you're just not coming to see me.
583
00:51:24,340 --> 00:51:29,860
He goes, well, we got to transport you to Toledo, Pro-Medica trauma unit, like the highest trauma
584
00:51:29,860 --> 00:51:37,700
unit you can go to. I said, okay, they didn't tell me what broke in my back. So we got to Toledo,
585
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:44,900
was there for another eight, nine hours. They told me that my T four, my T five was a compression
586
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:48,180
fracture. And they said I was going to be out for the rest of the season.
587
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:56,980
My, but I want, when I was in the hospital Bellevue, my dad, he's drinking at the races
588
00:51:56,980 --> 00:51:59,620
because it's supposed to be a two day show. He thought it was just going to like a sprain or
589
00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:05,460
something like that. And he's getting the car around for Saturday night. And I'm like, dad,
590
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:15,140
my back is broke. Like I cannot go racing. So Toledo, they couldn't even see if I could walk at all
591
00:52:15,140 --> 00:52:21,780
until I was leaving. Dr. The nurse comes in, I seen probably about 25 different nurses. And
592
00:52:23,380 --> 00:52:27,140
the last nurse that came in, he's like, did they ever see if you could walk us? And no,
593
00:52:27,140 --> 00:52:31,540
not at all. I said, I've been in this bed for 18, 19 hours. I said, they have not seen if I could
594
00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:35,860
walk. So he said, well, I want to see if you can walk, get up. Let's see if you can walk around.
595
00:52:35,860 --> 00:52:40,980
I walked around just fine. And he's like, all right, he goes, we're gonna be out for, I think it was
596
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:49,300
three months and went to, to went to the back doctor. I don't know, some guy puts in dusky and
597
00:52:50,420 --> 00:52:53,700
he just told me he goes, well, he goes, if you want to heal quicker, he goes, I'm gonna put you
598
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:57,940
in a back brace and a neck brace on one. He goes, but if he goes, he went to let it heal on its own,
599
00:52:57,940 --> 00:53:01,620
he goes, if that's, he goes, that's what I want you to do because I want you to let it heal on its own.
600
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:09,940
So I had no brace, no nothing, no physical therapy at all. And just let it heal on its own.
601
00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:16,100
Sometimes it still gives me hard times and like when it's winter, when I'm working outside and,
602
00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:21,140
but I just kind of deal with it. There's nothing you can do about it. They, that's pretty much
603
00:53:21,140 --> 00:53:25,140
what they said, you can't pretty much do anything about a broken back. When it's fractured like that,
604
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:28,820
you just got to let it heal on its own. So I just let it heal and
605
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:32,340
doctor asked me if I was gonna get back in the sprint car. I said, yeah.
606
00:53:33,540 --> 00:53:38,580
I said, I think a lot of people do unless they're paralyzed. I said, but I feel like I said, I'm
607
00:53:38,580 --> 00:53:42,660
gonna get back into one and he goes, well, that's what he said. He goes, if you have another wreck
608
00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:48,580
like this, he goes, you probably won't be walking again. So that just made me go even more, I guess.
609
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:54,020
Is it scary at all? Like, obviously, it's kind of a drive to get back into it, but is it still
610
00:53:54,020 --> 00:54:02,020
scary? Like, do you think about it or? It did scare me for the first couple races of the,
611
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:08,100
I think it was a 20, yeah, 2023 season. It did scare me for a while because it
612
00:54:10,260 --> 00:54:18,020
kind of made my dad smile when we got to Attica the first time after breaking my back. And
613
00:54:18,020 --> 00:54:28,580
I think I went fifth quick that night and qualifying and him seeing me, he told me, he said, him
614
00:54:28,580 --> 00:54:33,380
seeing me come around turn two where I broke my back that night. He said, just made him smile and
615
00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:36,340
just he said, it made him tear up a little bit because he said, he never thought we were gonna
616
00:54:36,340 --> 00:54:43,060
get back into it after that. And that kind of made me chuckle up a little bit and knowing like,
617
00:54:43,060 --> 00:54:48,340
hey, this is what we can do. And it was just a father son moment pretty much. And just,
618
00:54:49,940 --> 00:54:55,380
but mom, mom, she was back home watching on dirt vision. And she called dad crying, just
619
00:54:56,100 --> 00:55:03,620
being emotional and how moms are. And she was just very, very, very excited on watching me
620
00:55:04,180 --> 00:55:10,100
come on a turn to that, that night that I broke my back and seeing how good we did that night. And
621
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:14,660
just that's what made me I was like, all right, I shouldn't be scared anymore. I just did that.
622
00:55:14,660 --> 00:55:18,740
Like, but sometimes like, I think that's what happens to me when
623
00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:25,780
when we're racing, I guess side by side right on top of each other, I got, you might as well say,
624
00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:31,700
a PTSD from that. And it just sometimes it haunts me, but I just kind of let it go away.
625
00:55:32,340 --> 00:55:38,420
It don't really bother me on the out on the track, as much as I guess, off the track, just
626
00:55:38,420 --> 00:55:44,260
thinking about it. It's like, man, we were pretty close that time. Maybe like, I should just watch
627
00:55:44,260 --> 00:55:49,060
what I do this next time. But then when we do get that close to each other, I start thinking,
628
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:54,580
all right, stop Austin, just think on what you're doing, race your race and get over it. It happened,
629
00:55:54,580 --> 00:56:01,940
get over it. So I don't really have those thoughts as much as I did when I first got back into the
630
00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:08,980
car after my back injury. But other than that, I haven't had much thought.
631
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:15,540
You mentioned the father son aspect of it. And I think that's a pretty
632
00:56:17,780 --> 00:56:22,660
common thing in racing as a whole is, you know, the father son aspect of it, because it's almost,
633
00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:28,820
I feel like everybody that's ever been involved in racing ties it back to their father in some way.
634
00:56:28,820 --> 00:56:34,580
I know that I do know that my dad does and then I know that, you know, he from there and his friends
635
00:56:34,580 --> 00:56:39,540
and all this stuff, it all ties back into like a father son relationship. What I mean, what is that
636
00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:46,020
for you been like coming up through go karts as a kid and then now in the trucks and in the sprints.
637
00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:50,180
And you know, you talked about, you know, coming back after the injury, obviously, like,
638
00:56:50,980 --> 00:56:55,460
you know, what, what is that relationship been like through racing? How was racing helped that
639
00:56:55,460 --> 00:57:02,020
relationship? Has it maybe hurt the relationship at times and all that? Like, what, what, what's
640
00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:08,420
that relationship been like? I mean, it's, I mean, I guess I can't really say how it was,
641
00:57:08,420 --> 00:57:12,660
because I mean, four years old, you don't remember a lot when you're that young. So
642
00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:22,580
just one thing after another and just him always pushing me to do the best I can always on my ass
643
00:57:22,580 --> 00:57:28,420
about everything. And one me, he's always told me wants me to be better than he was. I mean,
644
00:57:29,060 --> 00:57:35,140
every father is going to tell tell their son that and he just always pushed me to be the best I could.
645
00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:43,380
So did mom, mom was always there pushing me just like with the sponsor stuff. Dad pushes me non stop
646
00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:48,420
with sponsor stuff as soon as the racing season's over. I do, I do a letter and a picture each,
647
00:57:48,420 --> 00:57:54,740
each of my sponsors, but the letters different for each sponsor. And he's, I've done that since
648
00:57:54,740 --> 00:58:01,060
I was four years old. And he always just pushed me to do that. Because that's who he was when he
649
00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:05,940
was helping out John Ivy was he was a sponsor guy. He was the he was the media guy, might as well
650
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:13,940
say, but that's just how he's always been. And yeah, we have our bickers and screaming matches and
651
00:58:13,940 --> 00:58:20,820
wanting to strangle each other. But once he finally realized like, Hey,
652
00:58:22,660 --> 00:58:27,060
I need to slow down a little bit because Austin's getting to where he can do this stuff too.
653
00:58:28,660 --> 00:58:32,420
When I was younger or whatever it was, he started backing off a little bit and
654
00:58:33,780 --> 00:58:38,820
he knows stuff about he knows stuff about the car and the go card or whatever we race at a time, but
655
00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:48,340
on the being like this, like the smarter aspect of it, that's like how I was like, if I can learn
656
00:58:48,340 --> 00:58:55,220
something, he I'd be able to tell him, Hey, this is what I learned. This is what we could do different
657
00:58:55,220 --> 00:59:01,780
to the car or whatever. He has to be told a couple of different times on, Hey, this is how you do
658
00:59:01,780 --> 00:59:07,460
this. So you do this. But then like, once I start telling him, it's like, mean him click
659
00:59:07,460 --> 00:59:15,620
better than somebody else would tell him. And like, if I told him, Hey, the, we need to change
660
00:59:15,620 --> 00:59:20,260
stagger or whatever, this is what the stagger is going to do. This is what the spacing is going to do.
661
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:27,300
He understands that. But if it's coming from somebody else, but it's the same thing coming out of my
662
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:32,500
mouth and somebody else's mouth, he remembers what how I said it compared to what somebody else
663
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:41,780
says it. So that right there has our relationship closer together on that aspect of it. But it's
664
00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:48,180
just, he don't like, he don't like to see me quit. And he's has never missed a race since I was four
665
00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:56,420
years old, besides, I think one, and he, he, I think he broke his foot or something like that. And
666
00:59:56,420 --> 01:00:01,380
he missed one race and then got a boot on, then he was there every single race. He has not missed
667
01:00:01,380 --> 01:00:07,620
a race since I was four years old. And that right there, like, that just, I looked like this year,
668
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:13,220
I looked back on it and just remembered and just thought about it. Like, man, my dad has not missed
669
01:00:13,220 --> 01:00:20,020
a race since I was four years old. And every, like we talked earlier, people coming and going and
670
01:00:20,020 --> 01:00:26,180
people coming and going and we've had a lot of that. And I know a lot of people's dads that have
671
01:00:26,180 --> 01:00:30,580
backed out of their relationship with their son with racing and stuff like that, didn't want anything
672
01:00:30,580 --> 01:00:38,900
to do with it. And he just hasn't quit. And I'm like, glad he hasn't because if it wasn't for him,
673
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:42,500
I don't think I'd be racing pretty much because he was the one that started with it with everything. So
674
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:53,220
the props go to him pretty much. And so, and mom, she did all the cooking and everything for us. So
675
01:00:53,220 --> 01:00:57,940
we couldn't complain too much because she'd always make sure we had food at the trailer or
676
01:00:58,660 --> 01:01:06,260
she'd come to the races after she worked 12 hour day and cook us supper that night on the
677
01:01:06,260 --> 01:01:10,900
Blackstone or whatever she was doing. And she, as soon as my feature was over, she'd leave and go
678
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:15,780
home, go to work the next day and so would dad, but she worked Sunday. So every time we were
679
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:20,900
raced on Saturday, she'd get home at one o'clock in the morning, go get up at six o'clock in the
680
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:26,020
morning, go to work to make sure we had money to go racing if dad wasn't working or whatever. And
681
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:33,460
that's just how they always been. Yeah, nothing, nothing will beat mom or grandma's cooking.
682
01:01:34,820 --> 01:01:39,940
That's a staple of my childhood because I remember growing up, you know, always being
683
01:01:39,940 --> 01:01:44,900
at the shop, which was at my grandparents house, my dad, and who's one of those deals you're out
684
01:01:44,900 --> 01:01:53,060
there in the garage. And I was at the oldest at that point, I don't know, six, seven, I think
685
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:59,780
the oldest I was 2007. So it'd have been 10 years old, 11. And it's just like, you always kind of
686
01:01:59,780 --> 01:02:02,340
like you're out there and you're working on the car and you're waiting and you're waiting. And
687
01:02:02,340 --> 01:02:09,060
then grandma rings, we had a, we had a bell outside on the porch. And it was, I think it was only
688
01:02:09,060 --> 01:02:13,620
there to ring and when it rang at basically meant dinner was ready to come in and eat. And
689
01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:20,420
that is like one of the core memories I have of my childhood is that bell ringing going in,
690
01:02:20,420 --> 01:02:25,220
eating dinner. And I always, I've always eaten quick and being the first one done. And then,
691
01:02:25,220 --> 01:02:29,300
you know, go back out to the shop. And I was a little young, you know, what was going on. So
692
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:31,780
he usually jumped on the trampoline or something while they were in there. And then I go in and
693
01:02:31,780 --> 01:02:36,420
see what they were doing and figure out how I could help and, you know, put quotations around that.
694
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:44,740
But I mean, that, that is a core memory for me as well. And I think anybody that doesn't have that
695
01:02:44,740 --> 01:02:50,660
experience or memories in their childhood one, you know, I'm hitting the circumstances, sorry
696
01:02:50,660 --> 01:02:55,140
that you never could. But like, I think that is something that like everybody kind of looks at
697
01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:59,540
and they're like, Hey, I would, I would do a lot of terrible things to go back to that part of my
698
01:02:59,540 --> 01:03:03,540
life and just experience one of those meals again. And like I still do now I go over there and
699
01:03:03,540 --> 01:03:09,540
experience it, but it's not the same. Like there's no bell that ring or anything like that. But yeah,
700
01:03:09,540 --> 01:03:16,900
that's, yeah, that's how, that's how we were like with a go, I mean, with anything mom, she'd make
701
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:23,300
supper and we'd be, we'd mean that we work around the car or whoever's over there. And she, mom always
702
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:29,860
made sure that she's like, she'd ask whoever's over there, are you hungry, you want to eat here,
703
01:03:29,860 --> 01:03:34,900
whatever, if you're working on the car, you're pretty much going to eat is what mom's thought
704
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:42,820
process was. And if people ate before they came, they were eaten before they were leaving. And
705
01:03:42,820 --> 01:03:46,740
even if they didn't want to eat, and mom, mom always made a plate no matter what. So they were,
706
01:03:46,740 --> 01:03:50,420
they felt bad pretty much they're like, well, we're going to eat it now. But I remember
707
01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:58,420
we had a big race and go carts coming up and we're on the shop 24 seven me and dad were in
708
01:03:58,420 --> 01:04:03,940
another guy that was racing for us. He'd come over a couple of days out of the week. And mom would
709
01:04:03,940 --> 01:04:11,060
always make supper and we'd be on the scales, scale on the carts and I mean, we're hands dirty,
710
01:04:11,060 --> 01:04:14,340
filled with grease, everything she'd come out and have plates ready for us and
711
01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:22,660
she'd have drinks and everything else. And so that right there was just, I guess,
712
01:04:22,660 --> 01:04:29,060
some memory that I always had was mom always made sure we were fed and gave us food no matter what
713
01:04:29,060 --> 01:04:33,540
if we were hungry or not. Because if she's eating, she's gonna make food and she's gonna make sure
714
01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:40,420
you're eating too. Yeah, I am in debt to my parents, specifically my dad more than I probably would
715
01:04:40,420 --> 01:04:47,140
care to admit because the amount of shredded chicken sandwiches, walking tacos and pop that
716
01:04:47,140 --> 01:04:51,780
that man has paid for me when I was younger at the racetrack is got I'd hate to know the amount
717
01:04:51,780 --> 01:04:55,860
and granted back then it was probably like $2 for a shredded chicken compared to the five that it is
718
01:04:55,860 --> 01:05:03,540
now or whatever. But I mean, if I wanted it, if I wanted to go, I'd get it. And it's like, I also
719
01:05:03,540 --> 01:05:09,460
look now I look back at it and I look at what I did in the pits as a nine year old. And I'm like,
720
01:05:09,460 --> 01:05:15,620
my parents had the utmost trust in me not to get bulldozed by a race car. Because I think I ran
721
01:05:15,620 --> 01:05:22,660
around those pits unaccompanied way more than I legally should have been allowed to. Because it was
722
01:05:23,780 --> 01:05:30,020
2005 and six, my dad drove for rich farmer. And that's when Chevy and I had become friends. And I
723
01:05:30,020 --> 01:05:37,460
remember we were eight, nine years old, running around those pits with mud clobbs in our hands
724
01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:42,500
that we were building in things and I would run up to the grandstands and back because I knew people
725
01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:48,340
and here and there. And it's like, hand, I had so much free reign as a kid. And if I wanted something,
726
01:05:48,340 --> 01:05:52,500
I probably would get it. And I'd be like, that's how I was, give me 10 bucks. I want,
727
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:56,020
I want to shred chicken. My dad probably give me 20 and I'd go get like four and I'd eat them all.
728
01:05:57,780 --> 01:06:04,660
And then, you know, it's, it's stuff like that that I think fulfills a lot of my childhood memories
729
01:06:04,660 --> 01:06:10,740
is being able to do that and doing it with family at that. Obviously, like, you know, I was younger
730
01:06:10,740 --> 01:06:15,540
was a, it was a lot bigger of a family affair. And then, you know, kind of in the later half of
731
01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:21,460
the last couple of years, my dad's career was really him, me, team owner, a couple guys and in my grandpa.
732
01:06:23,540 --> 01:06:28,660
But now even to this day, it's still a huge family thing. I think it's, you know, I always kind of
733
01:06:28,660 --> 01:06:34,260
tell everyone, my dad's, you know, my best friend. And I don't know if he'd be my best friend if
734
01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:42,740
racing didn't exist. We like, we both like, you know, I would say football. We both used to like
735
01:06:42,740 --> 01:06:48,340
the Indians back when they were the Indians and we've kind of boycotted them since and all of that.
736
01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:52,340
And you can say what you want about the name. All right, that's my viewpoint on, I got to go the last
737
01:06:52,340 --> 01:06:56,500
ever Cleveland Indians game, which was, I would have been all right if they would have went with
738
01:06:56,500 --> 01:06:59,940
anything else, but the guardians, they could have went with the spiders and I've been fine with that.
739
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I got to go the last ever Cleveland Indians game in Arlington, Texas. They won. I remember the last
740
01:07:04,340 --> 01:07:10,100
play I was sitting in right field, pop fly shallow right center. They caught it. I remember
741
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:17,060
getting up for my seat and I yelled, fuck Paul Dolan. And then I laughed. And the guy in front of
742
01:07:17,060 --> 01:07:21,140
me was wearing a, he was wearing an Indians jersey and he's like, I agree. And I was like, this man,
743
01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:28,100
I love you. Like, but we, you know, we baseball obviously we're all safe football fans. So we
744
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:32,740
have come in ground, but I think, you know, if you were to look through our messages or our
745
01:07:32,740 --> 01:07:41,140
conversations, 70% of them probably revolve around racing in some manner. And we went, we went to
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01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:49,300
Anderson, I want to say about three years ago, three or four years ago at this point to go to
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01:07:49,300 --> 01:07:56,260
the little five and we went to on the qualifying days because we were going up to, I think we were
748
01:07:56,260 --> 01:08:01,700
going to circle city maybe for one of the nights before. And we're sitting in line at concessions
749
01:08:01,700 --> 01:08:05,060
to get like a drink or whatever. And there's an older guy standing there. I remember it clearly.
750
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:08,740
My dad nudged me and he goes, that's what I want to do. And I was like,
751
01:08:10,020 --> 01:08:14,660
what are you talking about? And he goes, that, and I was like, I'm confused. Like,
752
01:08:15,220 --> 01:08:18,820
he's like, I just want to get old. All I want to do is go to races. And I was like,
753
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:24,420
very well, like, got it. That's all you want to do. And I'm pretty confident at this point,
754
01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:29,060
that's always he's going to do for us in his life. So, um, yeah, I mean, family is, it's,
755
01:08:29,060 --> 01:08:36,260
it's such a big part of it. And I wouldn't, you know, I think it was with Tyler streets episode,
756
01:08:36,260 --> 01:08:42,820
we kind of talked like racing's family and then in all of that, but, um, it is like true blood
757
01:08:42,820 --> 01:08:47,300
family as well. Like it's, it's, it's not, you know, I do, you know, family racing, but it,
758
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:53,940
it's like the blood family itself is also so strong in all that because of racing.
759
01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:58,260
Um, and I've watched it through the years of my life, um, like my grandpa for a while,
760
01:08:58,260 --> 01:09:01,700
get out of it. Didn't really want to go to races anymore. My dad quit. He joined us,
761
01:09:01,700 --> 01:09:06,340
you know, retired life. Um, and now he's, he's the last couple of years, he's kind of gone back
762
01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:11,220
into it and he went to the Fremont Hall of Fame this summer and, and all that. And, you know,
763
01:09:11,220 --> 01:09:17,140
we went to that whole thing as a family and it was like this huge rush of memories for my younger
764
01:09:17,140 --> 01:09:23,620
years of, you know, this is, this was what it was. It was him, my dad, me, my cousins, my grandma, my,
765
01:09:23,620 --> 01:09:28,660
my mom at the time and, and all of that just would all go with a racetrack and it was this
766
01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:33,460
festival. And then, you know, back in the early 2000s, and I don't remember too much of this
767
01:09:33,460 --> 01:09:40,420
either. And I wish I could. And I wish it was still the same way. Um, but you would go with a
768
01:09:40,420 --> 01:09:44,820
racetrack at Fremont, uh, Saturday night and it would end and it would be two in the morning
769
01:09:44,820 --> 01:09:53,940
and everybody was still at the concession stand partying. No, nobody left. Um, everyone stayed
770
01:09:53,940 --> 01:10:00,820
and it was just this party and there is a, I don't, I'm going to secretly get it out one day,
771
01:10:00,820 --> 01:10:05,460
but there's a scrapbook we have and it's just photos of everybody and it's, it's a young
772
01:10:05,460 --> 01:10:10,660
Craig man. It's a young Caleb Griffith. Like when they're 16 years old and then you see like a
773
01:10:10,660 --> 01:10:14,980
younger Michael, Linda and John Ivy and all these people in these photos and you're like,
774
01:10:14,980 --> 01:10:20,500
who is this? And then you're like, Oh, that's who that is. And you're like, wow. And,
775
01:10:21,220 --> 01:10:25,780
and all of that. And just a completely different atmosphere that I think we grew up in than what
776
01:10:25,780 --> 01:10:31,380
it is now. Um, but the general idea of it has kind of stayed the same. It's still racing's family.
777
01:10:31,380 --> 01:10:35,780
Those are still people that you go to and you need something and, and all of that. And, you know,
778
01:10:35,780 --> 01:10:44,900
obviously now for me out, out of the racing itself and into the media side, um, I get to talk to a
779
01:10:44,900 --> 01:10:50,820
bunch of different people. I've had tons of people message me on Facebook, you know, that I've never
780
01:10:50,820 --> 01:10:55,460
once spoken a word to and you know, that I go, I love the podcast or we, you know, next time we're
781
01:10:55,460 --> 01:11:00,180
in town, we want to get a video or whatever. And it's like, I've never once talked to you in my life.
782
01:11:00,180 --> 01:11:04,100
Like me. Yeah. I'm like, I've never talked to this guy once in my life,
783
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:09,860
but I'm not like, I'm down as like, let's do something. But so it's so caught up. I mean,
784
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:14,100
that you're going, I mean, you weren't going to go to middle stream, but I mean,
785
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:17,540
middle streams on the way to my house from your house. So it kind of worked out.
786
01:11:17,540 --> 01:11:21,380
It's a little bit out of the way, but I was, I was like, I'm already like,
787
01:11:21,380 --> 01:11:26,420
going there. Well, just go, I wasn't going to go originally. I was going to take my Sunday and
788
01:11:26,420 --> 01:11:32,740
enjoy myself and I'll enjoy it tonight too. But I, uh, I literally told myself like this weekend,
789
01:11:32,740 --> 01:11:37,780
I'm going to relax. I was going to go to Wayne's field last night. I decided against it. So I was
790
01:11:37,780 --> 01:11:42,660
like, I got to go to middle stream. I feel like tonight. Um, but it's, yeah, it's just,
791
01:11:43,540 --> 01:11:47,300
just wild that, you know, it's, it's opened up a lot of doors and you meet a lot of new people. And
792
01:11:48,020 --> 01:11:51,780
um, it was the same way when I was in Texas and I was, I was with the band. It was steep. So where,
793
01:11:51,780 --> 01:11:56,500
where did you live at? San Angelo middle of nowhere. And this is, this is what I tell everybody.
794
01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:59,620
And they're like, I've never heard of it. I'm like, it's the largest city in the United States
795
01:11:59,620 --> 01:12:05,460
that does not have an interstate that runs through it. Oh, middle of Texas. Like if you were to look
796
01:12:05,460 --> 01:12:08,900
at Texas and you threw a dart right at the middle of Texas, you're probably going to land within
797
01:12:08,900 --> 01:12:15,460
five miles of San Angelo. Like it's, it's in the middle of nowhere. Um, look at, for people that
798
01:12:15,460 --> 01:12:20,820
are familiar listening, like look at Sundeski. Sundeski seems like a big city. It's 25,000 people.
799
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:26,500
You got Cedar Point. San Angelo is four times the size of Sundeski in terms of population.
800
01:12:26,500 --> 01:12:30,100
And it does not have an interstate that runs through it. Like the turnpike, five minutes from
801
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:35,860
Sundeski, the closest interstate to San Angelo is an hour and a half to the north. You are,
802
01:12:35,860 --> 01:12:41,940
you are in the middle of nowhere. Um, but gas is cheap. So you could drive anywhere you wanted.
803
01:12:41,940 --> 01:12:45,780
But when I was down there and I got with those bands, like you just met so many different people.
804
01:12:45,780 --> 01:12:55,540
And, um, I actually messaged him on Instagram. Uh, I think it was a week ago. His name's Trevor,
805
01:12:55,540 --> 01:13:03,140
he runs motion theory media. Uh, and he is on tour with co-wetsel right now. Um,
806
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:07,860
and I met him through the band that I was on tour with, and then I got to do a show with him.
807
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:12,180
And he's always been willing to help out. Um, you know, we don't talk every day, but as one of
808
01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:16,500
those guys, like I met through that, I would consider that man family just because of how
809
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:21,540
nice he's been to me. And it's the same with racing. Like I go to certain people, Zane is one of them.
810
01:13:21,540 --> 01:13:29,060
Um, you know, I think they reached out to me before speed week. We did a video for
811
01:13:29,060 --> 01:13:32,500
speed week and then ever since then, you know, I have Zane and Snapchat and all that. And I talked
812
01:13:32,500 --> 01:13:37,060
to him and he was on the first episode and you know, I messaged him the other day and I was like,
813
01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:41,540
let's go play golf. And he's like, I gotta go do this. And I was like, God, you're killing me.
814
01:13:41,540 --> 01:13:46,740
He's busy not stop. So I mean, we're, we're good buddies with him and, uh, he's, he's, he's a cool
815
01:13:46,740 --> 01:13:52,340
guy. I like talking to him and, uh, but, uh, he's just, he's a funny dude. He's funny. He's,
816
01:13:52,340 --> 01:13:56,340
he's busy though. He stays wired all the time. You don't think he would be, but he, he is wired.
817
01:13:56,340 --> 01:14:01,940
I asked him, you're like on like Adderall or something or like what? Like how are you so like
818
01:14:02,740 --> 01:14:06,820
wired? He goes, I don't know. I've always been like this. He just loves life. I think that's
819
01:14:06,820 --> 01:14:10,020
all it is. But I asked him to go golfing. I can't, I gotta go do this. And I was like, okay.
820
01:14:10,020 --> 01:14:14,100
It wasn't racing related. He had to get, he had to go pick somebody up from the airport or whatever.
821
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:17,620
It was, it was a Friday morning before Attica. So I should have known better, but
822
01:14:17,620 --> 01:14:20,580
I was trying to kill time in the morning. I didn't have to work. So we're going to get him
823
01:14:20,580 --> 01:14:26,660
golfing one day, but like guys like that, like, you know, it's met him, it happened chance. Good
824
01:14:26,660 --> 01:14:30,180
guy. You know, we had fun at the speed week deal and you know, we, I still reach out to him. We
825
01:14:30,180 --> 01:14:34,980
still talked to each other and you know, I'll see him tonight at middle stream. Um, but it's, you
826
01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:39,060
know, stuff like that. It's family. And then of course, like I already knew a lot of people
827
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:45,380
from before and, um, you know, like Virta, for example, uh, him and I met through our racing.
828
01:14:45,380 --> 01:14:49,540
We actually hated each other for a really long time, but now like him and I are, you know,
829
01:14:49,540 --> 01:14:54,020
good friends and, um, you know, we reach out to each other all the time, but it's, it's just stuff
830
01:14:54,020 --> 01:14:59,380
like that. Like if it wasn't for racing, I would have never met him and you know, uh, yeah, I'm
831
01:14:59,380 --> 01:15:03,140
grateful for our, for all that. That's a lot of people you don't know until like you with
832
01:15:03,700 --> 01:15:06,660
race and then it's like, oh yeah, I'm a him through racing. And then now you guys are back.
833
01:15:06,660 --> 01:15:15,780
That's like, uh, me and, uh, me and Tyler street. Uh, we raced go carts back when we were racing
834
01:15:15,780 --> 01:15:22,500
in the early 2000s. And then once he, once he started racing for 10s and through a five, you
835
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:26,180
kind of separated each other and never really talked to each other, but as a track, we still
836
01:15:26,180 --> 01:15:33,380
talked to each other. Like we haven't missed one day of racing and that's him and his mom and dad
837
01:15:33,380 --> 01:15:39,620
were a really, really good people. Just, um, they were friends with my mom and dad and, um,
838
01:15:39,620 --> 01:15:43,780
we'll always talk to him no matter what. And that's, that's what I like about the racing
839
01:15:43,780 --> 01:15:49,300
community is you might not race with them, but if you see him out and about or out in the store,
840
01:15:49,300 --> 01:15:53,860
whatever, they'll sit and talk to you. Like you just like, you didn't skip a beat pretty much.
841
01:15:53,860 --> 01:15:58,660
And that's, that's what I like about the racing community. Like you said, you, you meet people
842
01:15:58,660 --> 01:16:01,540
and once you meet people, you to kind of friendship kind of don't go away.
843
01:16:01,540 --> 01:16:04,660
Yeah. The only thing, the only people that I will not meet at the racetrack is women.
844
01:16:04,660 --> 01:16:08,900
I got one, I got one thing to talk about women is my fiancee Brooklyn, she's probably the,
845
01:16:10,180 --> 01:16:14,180
she's the one that was holding me together this year with his racing. And, um,
846
01:16:14,180 --> 01:16:18,180
I proposed this, this year to her. So next October is, uh,
847
01:16:18,980 --> 01:16:23,300
of the wedding. So that's, that's another big thing I forgot to mention was, uh,
848
01:16:23,300 --> 01:16:26,980
wedding planning this off season. So I got to do a lot of wedding planning for,
849
01:16:26,980 --> 01:16:31,540
for the, for next year. So, you know, I don't got that problem. Um, I don't,
850
01:16:32,660 --> 01:16:38,660
long story behind the, the women thing, but basically I will not meet a woman at the racetrack.
851
01:16:38,660 --> 01:16:42,340
And I will not take a moment to the racetrack within the first 10 days. It's off limits.
852
01:16:42,340 --> 01:16:44,980
She was, she was a queen at Fremont for two years. So that's how I met her.
853
01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:53,860
Can't help that one, but, uh, yeah, I'll, I'll meet friends, family, homies that I'll die with.
854
01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:57,540
I will not do women at a racetrack. It's just not going to happen. Um,
855
01:16:57,540 --> 01:17:01,700
I'm sorry for anyone that's followed me on Instagram in the hopes of that I'll sign your DMs.
856
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:05,780
Not going to do it. If I see a race car anywhere on your stuff. Uh, but you want,
857
01:17:05,780 --> 01:17:08,180
you want a woman that has nothing to do with the race and you bring her,
858
01:17:08,180 --> 01:17:10,740
I would prefer that at this point. Yeah. And you bring her into it.
859
01:17:10,740 --> 01:17:16,580
Like three years later. Yeah. Like I went to her, eventually I had one and she didn't really care.
860
01:17:16,580 --> 01:17:23,300
And I, you know, whatever. Uh, but you know, it's, you talk about family and all that.
861
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:26,900
And we, we hit that on the, on the head, but there's, you know, one thing I do want to talk about,
862
01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:34,100
um, is going kind of you, you're growing up, obviously where you were originally from,
863
01:17:35,460 --> 01:17:40,500
you're originally from Clyde. Okay. So you're growing up around that area, um, in, in this part
864
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:49,860
of the country. And now you know, you're in McCutcheonville. Um, but growing up, did you feel
865
01:17:49,860 --> 01:17:54,980
like where you were growing up at fostered the racing even more? Cause it was kind of close.
866
01:17:54,980 --> 01:18:00,820
Like, do you think if you had to travel more as a, as a kid that you would have still been
867
01:18:00,820 --> 01:18:07,140
as interested in it as you were now? Cause like, I know three hour car rides to go the racetrack.
868
01:18:07,140 --> 01:18:10,980
It sucks. They can, they suck. See, I can drain you out. And you know, as a kid, like,
869
01:18:11,940 --> 01:18:16,580
you know, I, I, I always hated it. I was like, are we there yet? Like, do you think growing up,
870
01:18:16,580 --> 01:18:21,140
and then this is something I've never asked growing up locally to this helped get into it as much as
871
01:18:21,140 --> 01:18:28,660
it was. Like you felt it was easier to do. And you think if maybe you had lived in Columbus or
872
01:18:28,660 --> 01:18:32,660
something and you had to draft, like drive three hours every week that you have still been in as
873
01:18:32,660 --> 01:18:40,580
much as you are. Um, I think it helped because everybody that raced around there, Attica, Freemont,
874
01:18:40,580 --> 01:18:45,860
Freemont, um, there was another in Crothers, Crothers, Ohio, which is south of Attica.
875
01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:52,020
Everybody that raced there, they all pretty much lived Freemont, Clyde, Bellevue,
876
01:18:52,740 --> 01:19:00,340
all in those towns. So you had anybody to talk to you. And I think it helped a lot because we had
877
01:19:00,340 --> 01:19:04,900
people to talk to you dad had people to talk to you and what to do to the, how to set the card up
878
01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:13,140
or whatever like that. And, um, unlike, like you said, Columbus, you, you got, you got tracks
879
01:19:13,140 --> 01:19:17,140
everywhere around Columbus, but you got to travel an hour and a half, two hours, maybe, maybe a
880
01:19:17,140 --> 01:19:23,380
little less than that. But, uh, oh, and then there was a track in Bellevue called Great Lakes Speedway,
881
01:19:23,380 --> 01:19:27,860
and they were trying to open that back this year. And that was only five minutes down the road from
882
01:19:27,860 --> 01:19:33,940
mom and dad's house. So that was after seeing that track go and just close up, they didn't get rid of
883
01:19:33,940 --> 01:19:39,380
it. They didn't get rid of the track or anything yet. But, uh, seeing that close up kind of hurt
884
01:19:39,380 --> 01:19:46,980
because that was the whole childhood track there and seeing Crothers, Little Indy close up, it was
885
01:19:46,980 --> 01:19:51,540
the same way it was that it was Little Indy and Great Lakes back and forth. That was a championship
886
01:19:51,540 --> 01:19:59,220
tracks. And, uh, just like now it's Freemont and Martinsville. So I think it helped out a lot because
887
01:19:59,220 --> 01:20:06,580
we had a couple of different tracks, the O2 within half hour of each other. Um, but like I said earlier,
888
01:20:06,580 --> 01:20:13,780
when it started to change with everything and then started changing rules, favoritism, stuff like that,
889
01:20:13,780 --> 01:20:20,500
it just, it started getting boring. It was just one thing after another. And that's when we started
890
01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:26,740
traveling and I liked it. But at the same time, it was like, man, we're staying, it was, I think,
891
01:20:26,740 --> 01:20:32,900
twice a month we traveled because that's how that series, that's how that series was. And, uh,
892
01:20:33,540 --> 01:20:41,460
then it moved to once a month and then it moved to only six races out of the year. And it was like,
893
01:20:41,460 --> 01:20:47,540
man, we're only racing six times in this series and that's all we're doing because it, we race
894
01:20:47,540 --> 01:20:53,780
Caged Cart in that series and it's like, man, we're only racing six times. And there was West
895
01:20:53,780 --> 01:21:03,300
Virginia, Southern Ohio, which is, uh, Wielersburg down by Portsmouth. Um, there was Mount Orb Route 68,
896
01:21:04,580 --> 01:21:11,460
uh, that's, uh, there's Circleville, Ohio. I mean, all this stuff down south you had, it was
897
01:21:11,460 --> 01:21:16,180
anything south of Columbus. And then there was I 70, I 77 where the two interstates meet. There
898
01:21:16,180 --> 01:21:21,300
was a go-kart track and there's a big, uh, well they just closed it up. The big late model track
899
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:26,100
over there. And, uh, it was everything. It was pretty much everything south of Columbus,
900
01:21:26,900 --> 01:21:31,860
but you had, we had guys from up north up here that was racing down there that was just only
901
01:21:31,860 --> 01:21:36,900
racing that they weren't racing for my attic anymore. So once it was like, once they pretty much
902
01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:41,460
started seeing us do that and figuring out what it was all about, they started doing it and they
903
01:21:41,460 --> 01:21:47,860
started liking it. And then, um, I think that series finally ended and it just kind of drove people
904
01:21:47,860 --> 01:21:53,940
away from going down south anymore. And now you're looking at more tracks closing up Route 68,
905
01:21:53,940 --> 01:22:00,340
I 77, um, West Virginia track closed that we went to and because you're not getting those
906
01:22:00,340 --> 01:22:04,980
series that are coming, those traveling series anymore and people don't want to race go-karts
907
01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:11,860
because the money situation again, that everything's getting expensive. So then once they stop racing,
908
01:22:11,860 --> 01:22:16,100
then the tracks aren't racing and they start closing up and that's how Millstream was.
909
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:21,380
Millstream, there was no, but I mean, whatever, how that happened, but that closed up and
910
01:22:22,180 --> 01:22:26,900
everybody wanted to race there. But I think it was stupid if they got a race on a Sunday
911
01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:31,780
today because all the, all the tracks were done now for the year. So let's put it on a Saturday.
912
01:22:32,660 --> 01:22:36,100
Let's have the 305s come down race on a Saturday with the three six season
913
01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:39,380
instead of on a Sunday when everybody's got to work on a Monday.
914
01:22:39,380 --> 01:22:47,620
With the 305, do you guys, obviously the Attica Fremont deal kind of puts a
915
01:22:49,060 --> 01:22:56,020
wrench in those plans just because a lot of the country is on the race, AMCA race saver stuff.
916
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But do you guys have any plans to maybe travel a little bit more in the future to where again,
917
01:23:02,740 --> 01:23:07,620
Owain County runs some open for this year at Wayne County and for the Pete,
918
01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:12,100
Jago's Memorial race, that was fun. I like going to Wayne County no matter what. I mean,
919
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:15,380
it's not a points race. I don't really care how we finish. It's just getting lapsed down there.
920
01:23:17,140 --> 01:23:22,020
But last year we raced two races with the three sixes at Lima and there was
921
01:23:22,740 --> 01:23:29,780
three 305s one night and five 305s the next night whenever we went and we had
922
01:23:29,780 --> 01:23:38,900
a fuck I can't remember his name. He just won El Dora this year when three sixes went down there.
923
01:23:40,580 --> 01:23:49,780
22 red red car. I can't remember his name, but he's he's a big time three sixes guy and he just
924
01:23:50,580 --> 01:23:53,940
went out there for I went out there for qualifying. I guess he was watching me. He just
925
01:23:53,940 --> 01:23:59,620
came up and was like, that's a 305 in there. I was like, yeah, but Lima it's always dry slick.
926
01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:04,420
So that's what helped us through a five guys out one of you had three sixes out there and we got
927
01:24:04,420 --> 01:24:10,100
to run medium tires. You don't have to but it's nice because you can try to compete with them and
928
01:24:11,940 --> 01:24:15,460
it was fun racing Lima we raced Wayne's field my first season
929
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because they had a 305 show went to Wayne County twice.
930
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That was fun. I just like Wayne County Wayne County I think is badass long wrong long long
931
01:24:26,020 --> 01:24:30,420
long straightaways. It's like, okay, when am I turning in the movie? Like you can just hear the
932
01:24:30,420 --> 01:24:34,660
motor cranking and it's like, all right, I got turned neck like when am I turning and also, okay,
933
01:24:34,660 --> 01:24:44,260
now I'm turning. That's I think it's like Attica but Attica is just a lot wider and bigger than
934
01:24:44,260 --> 01:24:50,500
Wayne County it's more stretched out. But I like going on different tracks I wish
935
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:58,820
more tracks would see our series with the open 305s and invite us out because we get
936
01:24:58,820 --> 01:25:05,220
305 race savers coming in to our class sometimes and competing and doing good and
937
01:25:06,580 --> 01:25:10,820
they kind of get upset because they want us to come race with them but we can't because it's
938
01:25:10,820 --> 01:25:16,980
like putting a 360 down in the 305 class and going and racing and that's how it is with the
939
01:25:16,980 --> 01:25:21,540
open 305 compared to a race saver you can't do that unless a 305 race saver comes and races
940
01:25:21,540 --> 01:25:30,180
with an open 305. That's just like I had I seen I think Jamie Miller with a 305 jumping into the
941
01:25:30,180 --> 01:25:38,340
410s and like wax asses pretty much damn near and I was like this you don't have to do a 5 and like
942
01:25:38,340 --> 01:25:44,100
what are you 410 guys doing but it was a dry slick track through 410s guys couldn't get a hold of
943
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:51,460
the track unlike a 305 that has lower horsepower. Yeah, you'll see it a lot and I've had conversations
944
01:25:51,460 --> 01:25:58,020
with a lot of people the day the day we ever get non-winged 410s back to free my Attica hopefully
945
01:25:58,020 --> 01:26:04,900
it's usack but we get that I think you're gonna see a couple 305 guys just take the wing off and go
946
01:26:04,900 --> 01:26:12,020
out there and try it for the sake of a good race they probably won't be competitive because hopefully
947
01:26:12,020 --> 01:26:18,020
the tracks hooked up and juiced up and you're gonna need the extra horsepower but I think you'd
948
01:26:18,020 --> 01:26:22,500
see it because I've seen it you know in the past or before you know some 305 guys running the
949
01:26:22,500 --> 01:26:29,940
boss shows back when Fremont was super slick so yeah I mean there's a stud chance or an
950
01:26:29,940 --> 01:26:37,060
opportunity there to go from a 305 to a 360 or run a 305 and 410 you know like you said being
951
01:26:37,060 --> 01:26:44,340
that a lot of 305s are race saver you know the IMCA rule stuff it kind of limits your your chances
952
01:26:44,340 --> 01:26:51,060
there but you can do the 360 if you guys ever thought about going up to Michigan and running a
953
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:56,900
360 show here in there yeah I mean we talked about going this year but I mean we had it on our
954
01:26:56,900 --> 01:27:05,860
schedule to I think it was I-96 or Butler I think it was one of the tracks up there we were playing
955
01:27:05,860 --> 01:27:13,460
on going just like we plan on going to Lima this year too racing with the 360s but dad what dad was
956
01:27:13,460 --> 01:27:18,580
talking about getting a 360 so we can travel and I just told him I said we're gonna be back in the
957
01:27:18,580 --> 01:27:23,140
same boat we were we were in carts I said we're gonna race around here and then now you're talking
958
01:27:23,140 --> 01:27:30,740
about wanting to do more but at the same time we're paying for more of a motor you're wanting to
959
01:27:30,740 --> 01:27:37,540
travel then we're gonna pay the expensive fuel to get up there pit passes everything else hotel to
960
01:27:37,540 --> 01:27:43,140
stay at I said I don't think we should do it I said I think we should just keep the 305 for now
961
01:27:43,140 --> 01:27:49,540
see how it goes go race 305 against 360 I said because we already proved our point we're going
962
01:27:49,540 --> 01:27:55,540
to 360 that line a couple times I said I said I finished 12th the one night when there's 30 cars
963
01:27:55,540 --> 01:28:05,540
there I said we can do it I said but it's just we can't we can't afford to I I should say at this
964
01:28:05,540 --> 01:28:13,060
moment in time in this era what's going on I said I don't think we can afford it right now so he
965
01:28:13,060 --> 01:28:20,740
just he's like all right well let's just keep through a five and go from there and see what happens
966
01:28:20,740 --> 01:28:26,340
I think a lot of people are kind of in that let's just see what happens mode at the current
967
01:28:28,020 --> 01:28:34,180
moment in time just with everything going on we're hitting about a minute 30 or not a minute 30 an hour
968
01:28:34,180 --> 01:28:38,740
30 here so we'll kind of start to wrap it up a little bit in terms of our recording time of
969
01:28:38,740 --> 01:28:43,460
course obviously we edit down and all that but trying to stay around an hour 30 I'm on the laptop
970
01:28:43,460 --> 01:28:47,300
we're not hooked up to power and like you said we got middle stream coming up so I think we're all
971
01:28:47,300 --> 01:28:53,940
looking forward to that but you know before we kind of end it off here I do you have you know
972
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anything that you want to say get out there sponsorship wise fan wise or you know anything
973
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:06,340
like that well I want to thank all my sponsors from this last year a la carte cafe after hours
974
01:29:06,340 --> 01:29:11,220
design X they do it all my stickers for this year my t-shirt design stuff like that
975
01:29:11,940 --> 01:29:20,260
Norman family collision main station hair salon WDLC Sheds and more
976
01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:28,420
Van Doren Sun's construction can't forget them those are pretty big sponsor guys
977
01:29:28,420 --> 01:29:37,620
and all the little Tiffany's furniture laying shark just there's so many guys out there I know I'm
978
01:29:37,620 --> 01:29:42,100
forgetting a lot of people but usually I got a paper that's all they got everybody on it but
979
01:29:42,740 --> 01:29:49,700
Grespen motors Barry Mouraishin shocks all the guys that help out even even the guys that don't
980
01:29:49,700 --> 01:29:55,380
don't just give money and don't even want their name on the car and just shout out to all those
981
01:29:55,380 --> 01:30:02,020
guys that have helped me out Tiffany she's been with me since I was a go and go carts uh
982
01:30:02,980 --> 01:30:06,900
might not go that own a la carte they just they've been there since they
983
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:09,860
opened the restaurant up about 10 years ago that's up in Portland
984
01:30:12,420 --> 01:30:22,100
but one thing I do got to say is if you want to quit like just like we said with the quote there's
985
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:31,060
just when we started if you want to quit just think of what can possibly happen better for you
986
01:30:31,060 --> 01:30:36,660
in the future on what you can do differently even though you're probably doing things differently
987
01:30:36,660 --> 01:30:42,420
now but there's always going to be something different you can do than what you're doing at
988
01:30:42,420 --> 01:30:49,700
the moment in time so I got always said just I want to give up this year on certain races and
989
01:30:49,700 --> 01:30:55,380
not race for the rest of the season and my grandpa he wasn't there this year so it's kind of different
990
01:30:55,380 --> 01:31:00,100
he was always there pretty much as much as he could he had some surgery problem surgery that he had to
991
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:06,340
do and um he watched under vision so he'd call him he'd call me as soon as his races were over
992
01:31:06,340 --> 01:31:11,540
was like hey buddy did a good job like and that's what was put that's what's pushing me more was
993
01:31:11,540 --> 01:31:17,540
him there and not knowing like he's getting older so it's he might not be here anytime
994
01:31:17,540 --> 01:31:25,700
anytime down the road so uh that's why I got this new tattoo was my grandpa my great grandpa my grandpa
995
01:31:25,700 --> 01:31:34,740
was all the racing numbers and um so it just kept pushing me because I want to do I want to show them
996
01:31:34,740 --> 01:31:42,180
what I can do what I when I'm capable of and um just just never give up on the hard times because
997
01:31:42,180 --> 01:31:47,700
the hard times are going to eventually turn into good times and um that's what we're here for we're
998
01:31:47,700 --> 01:31:52,340
here for a good time not a long time yeah that's some that's some some good stuff right there so
999
01:31:53,540 --> 01:31:58,660
well we'll wrap it up here um appreciate everyone listening episode this is gonna be episode I want
1000
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to say six total if I remember right I know again everything in just cloudy now we recorded a lot
1001
01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:11,620
episodes and we took a break there to do it all but we get this out here I think the release date
1002
01:32:11,620 --> 01:32:15,300
you know for this episode obviously you guys will know it because you just listen to it but
1003
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:23,220
looking to be uh like the I think of 16th or 17th of October so not too far away so we're
1004
01:32:23,220 --> 01:32:26,820
we're kind of going to start building up on episodes again and we'll get everything you know
1005
01:32:26,820 --> 01:32:31,700
pushed out there and um and stuff like that so awesome I mean I appreciate the time today I
1006
01:32:31,700 --> 01:32:37,700
appreciate it you know getting this into the schedule here um and you know hopefully we'll uh
1007
01:32:37,700 --> 01:32:43,060
we'll see come around springtime a new car and you know hopefully next year we'll get to see you
1008
01:32:43,060 --> 01:32:46,820
building a little bit of that consistency and and achieve that you know short term goal of you
1009
01:32:46,820 --> 01:32:52,900
know getting away and I think Sabito is looking at a 410 ride next year you finished off 410 so
1010
01:32:52,900 --> 01:32:57,540
that's one less guy out there you know that you get you gotta talk about I was like man I hope these
1011
01:32:57,540 --> 01:33:04,100
old old guys like Paul Weaver and them just oh they've been saying oh I'm gonna retire I'm gonna
1012
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:09,220
retire and then oh look first race or back out again then you're asking why I thought you're
1013
01:33:09,220 --> 01:33:14,020
retiring oh no I'm giving it one more year yeah it's like Terry Terry Frank you say you retire
1014
01:33:14,020 --> 01:33:17,860
and once you do you gotta get back into it so I appreciate you guys listening and then we'll
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see you guys the next Thursday