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Speaker 1: Let's talk with Heather du bros starts now. Oh you guys. Patrick Star is here today. I'm so so zozozo so excited. We have so many fun guests coming up. Steven Gaby are here, Hi guys, so many fun guests. Allie Webb is coming, Patrick Starr is here today. We got Florence and Romano. Her book is amazing about building your village. She's incredible. Chef Bay is going to come on. Who else we have coming on? Girls? Eat? Oh girls gotta EAT's coming on? So fun? I love it. Speaking of Chef By, did you see my social posts with Chef By?
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Speaker 2: I loved it?
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Speaker 3: You did?
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Speaker 2: It was so fun? I loved it.
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Speaker 1: She is so cool, she is going to come on the show. So what happened was I think we became Instagram friends. I think that's how I met her. I think I dm'd or on Instagram and we just started talking and started following each other, and then we traded phone numbers and texting and I was like, would you please come cook for me? And just coming over to cook for us turned into I mean a day full of content, honestly, which was crazy and fun and amazing. So, first of all, you have to understand. So we're living in three places right now. We've got a place in Orange County, and if you remember, we bought that apartment last year and then we bought this house that we're going to renovate.
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Speaker 4: How many kitchens between those three places.
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Speaker 1: There are three kitchens. Okay, however, one of the kitchens is in Orange County. All right, all right, so I decided, you know, she was going to come to Beverly Hills and cook. And so you know, when we're in LA we stay in the Beverly Hills place because there's not enough bedrooms in the apartment. I know, like rich girl problems whatever we're going to call that. But yeah, I know, forgive me. I don't mean to sound like an asshole about all this, but this is just how it's going. Right. So we can't stay in this house much longer because we're going to start, you know, breaking down the wall and doing all the things. So right now we're staying there through in some stage Foreurnerjurt's kind of hilarious. But anyway, So, by the way, I have been waiting for three months for blackout shades. I ordered them blinds dot Com. I'm just telling you I ordered them. You have to pay in fall. Let me make sure it's blinds dot com.
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Speaker 3: Blind's galore.
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Speaker 1: Now we're blinds dot Com. I'm gonna ask Nicole, let's shade them. Hold on, see if she answers. Hey, just very very quick question. I'm still doing my podcast. Is it blinds dot Com? Okay? Perfect?
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Speaker 3: Thank you?
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Speaker 1: Bye ye? Yes, yeah, go see what they have there? Okay, awesome, thank you bye? Okay, So let me do that again. So I ordered them from blinds dot Com. I am not sponsored by them. I pay in full. I just want to say all this. I've used them a couple of times because we've been in all of these temporary residences since we moved out of our house and Terry likes it blacked out. Okay, so we get to this place now, I must have ordered them. I don't know in August July. I don't even remember like that. And usually it takes there. They have to come measure and then you have to wait till all the blinds come in until they will give you an appointment to install them. And you want to use their installers, right right, so, because if something goes wrong then it's like their problem. Right as opposed to someone else. So I ordered the blonde. They gave a measure, We ordered the blinds. Weeks are going by, weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks, we which they should have been done already. Finally they're saying, oh, they're coming, they're coming, they're coming lies. And then we finally find out they didn't order them. Oh dear, they didn't order them, and so you'd think, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry this there's a rush shorder. No weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks a week. We are, now what at the end of October? So I'm going to tell you it's been close to four months, three and a half to four months. They delivered them two weeks ago. They wouldn't install them. We couldn't get an appointment. Couldn't get an appointment. I mean, they won't let you set up an appointment in advance. They finally come to put them all in. Two guys, very nice. Put them all in the bedroom. Word Tarry and I sleep. There's like five windows. They brought four blackout chads. Oh boy, one is missing. And they went through the whole order and whoever came and measured and did the whole thing just didn't put it on the order.
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Speaker 4: Would you say they turned a blind eye to the window.
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Speaker 1: I know he did it, So I mean, how long is that going to take?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 1: I think we might like be out of that house by the time the blind comes Blinds dot com Man, what the heck? Have you ever used them before?
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Speaker 4: Well this isn't exactly a rigging endorsement of them, but no.
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Speaker 1: But they've done a good job for us before, which I mean this is probably the third or fourth time that we use them. They're like those those black out chaps are like an accordion and you just like you pull it down, but it has to be done custom because you know, if you have weird window shapes or whatever it is.
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Speaker 4: You remember how those those trunks you were looking at in Paris took like a year to make. You think they would make them faster than Blind's doark And.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I should have Louis Vuitton make the blind that would there? You go, you have a special one blind one blind. Well guess what I'm buying the special black construction paper? Oh yeah, right, I was just gonna tape it on there, just got to just hang a blanket just like it needs to be, like on the window. Though I can't explain it, but it's so irritating. It's like, oh my god. And I'm not someone that like wakes with the sun. That's not really my vibe. But anyway, so there we go. So that why did I go off on the blind tangent chef by so? Also in this house was a stove that was so old it didn't work. The burners didn't work unless you took a lighter and turned on the gas and lit it.
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Speaker 2: Mind, does that I have a stove from like literally I think the fifties.
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Speaker 1: No, No, that's like you're talking about you're talking about Oh thank you rereading water and I could use that hold on, well, thank you, Gabby. That's different. You're talking about a cool classic stove that you have to light because at the time they made those stoves, they didn't have automatic igniters.
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Speaker 2: Mine does have a starter in it, but it just doesn't well actually not a starter. It has anyways, it used to do it. I used to start on its own, but now it has deteriorated and I have to do it now.
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Speaker 1: But yes, it is very cool, but it's vintage, yes, as vintage. This is not vintage. This is old. There's a difference between vintage and old. You could have a cool vintage car or you can have an old car.
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Speaker 2: What's the your threshold on that. I've been seeing stuff online where there's that the times are changing, like I saw one with this is different, but age when you're old, Like how old is old? Now?
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Speaker 1: From? Like what year you have to do? I saw someone saying the other day that they're not gonna call them so and age anymore. They're gonna say level because it sounds more bad as to be like I'm at level eighty. Oh yeah, yeah, I thought that was good anyway. So this stove is just wonky and bad and it doesn't work. So we called home depot. They sent out. I bought a stove, they sent it over. They don't install stoves, so you got to get a separate installer. So I had someone install the stove and then we used it and it for some reason, when you turned it on, it cracked the glass. Whoa, yeah, like at three hundred degrees that's not good. No, And I guess the end glass and the installer also left zip ties in the other stove, so they had to replace one of them, which Home Depot was very nice. I'm going to tell you they have great customer service. I really appreciate again non sponsored paid for the stove, but I really appreciated it Home Deepot's customer service. And they came back and they hauled the other one away and they brought it and they sent us in a staller. So that was all, Oh no, they didn't I take that back. We had it the handyman. I forgot the handyman did it. But anyway, so it's all in. So the point was I could not have Chef by the fabulous Chef Bay come over to my house with the wonky stove that you have to light with the lighter. It's already a wonky kitchen. It's like, I mean, this house was built in nineteen forty two, so.
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Speaker 4: You were examining every nook and cranny and corner of your kitchen just to make it presentable to the chef back.
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Speaker 1: I had to give that desire up because there was no way. It's a disaster. This kitchen just needs to be taken apart.
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Speaker 3: You had to release control, as oh I did.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I released control when we decided we were going to you know, stay there for a few months. So you know, all the cabinets in there are wood, so you can't see them right. You could see in some of them. Some of them have glass, but most of them are just wood. And I had my organizer just put labels on the outside of every drawer, every everything, because I didn't want to have to open everything. I go just lay, I don't care. Wow. Yeah, it's really it's really hideous, it's really old, it's really wonky, and it's hilarious. But whatever, it's clean.
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Speaker 3: Though.
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Speaker 2: Do you normally have flight glass cabinet doors or were you just doing that because it's a new house and you don't know where everything is yet.
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Speaker 1: It's a new place, and I didn't know where everything was and I didn't want to figure it out. And it's a very odd shaped kitchen and it doesn't lay out in a way that would make sense where you would know, Okay, the cutlery is here, the thing is there, the pots and pans. You know, usually you lay things out in a certain way, you put certain things together, cooking things, where this is just like it's a very wonky kitchen. So I just had everything labeled anyway. So Chef Bay came over and we were in the middle of filming some other things and so there was lots of people around and it was kind of a fun day. But Chef Bay came over. She had a soux chef with her and someone else and we had so much fun. It was like the best thing ever. We made this Israeli salad together. If you've been watching my Instagram or TikTok or Brooks Chef Bay Brook we did this is really salad with chicken schnitzel on top, and I was eating it hot and fresh and oh my gosh, it was so good. Resurrected Chef Heather for the occasion, and we donated money for every positive comment that was made on social which was great. So we sent a lot of money to this chef that Brooke knows who's cooking in the Middle East for soldiers, which is really neat. And so we did that and then we made the five hundred dollars grilled cheese. Wow, I saw that.
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Speaker 2: Pretty impressive.
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Speaker 4: Can you go through what was in that grilled cheese?
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Speaker 3: You know what?
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Speaker 1: Go over to Brooks, TikTok, she or Instagram she's got the whole thing there. But she makes the most beautiful bread and it's got rechy, I don't know, it's got all this crazy ingredients and it's gluten free, but it's you know, gluten free bread is usually gross and dense and weird. This was like an angel bread. It was the fluffiest, loveliest bread. And then what she does is she makes her own vegan mozzarella and vegan cheddar wow, and puts it in this beautiful bread, and then puts vegan butter on the outside from Miacos, Mikonos, one of those, and then she fries it in a pan and the bread becomes like brioche, Wow, crispy and buttery. W five hundred dollars probably five thousand calories worth, every penny and every calorie. Man, it was delicious. Now, the actual grilled cheese is not five hundred dollars, but it's like all the ingredients bought together, I.
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Speaker 4: Could buy you a lot of grilled cheese.
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Speaker 1: It could buy you a lot of grilled cheeses.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just out of care. Were you using your caraway gear?
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we were using Carroway, which we are sponsored by so I will tell you that. But we did use our Caraway pants. Those are so good.
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Speaker 3: I know we love them.
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Speaker 1: Here, let's talk with other bro all getting aside. I mean, I don't have, you know, an ad to do for them, but I'm just telling you I use their pants. Caraway's awesome. You really like you don't need as much butter, but on this dish you want the butter. You need the butter. The butter's your friend. Wow, It's really good anyway, So thanks Caraway for helping me and Jeff Bay and then so we made the grilled cheese and then she made dinner for us. But I was filming these other things in the other room, and so I was back and forth and back and forth, and we just hung out all day and it was really lovely. My assistant was there, and Julia are our friend, friend of let's talk. Julia Broom, social media expert, was there hanging out, and a couple of kids were home, and so we invited Brooke and her soux chef to come sit and have dinner. So we all she made us dinner and we all sat and had dinner together.
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Speaker 3: It was super fun.
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Speaker 4: I particularly liked the one video where she overdubbed your voice and you came up to her like presenting the no, that's not this one right now.
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Speaker 3: Go away?
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Speaker 1: Oh right, please leave the Heather and Shannon face off. Yeah, that was very funny. She was great.
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Speaker 3: She is.
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Speaker 1: First of all, she's a brilliant chef. Her food is so good. Love her personality. She's such a sweet, nice, smart girl. She's really really awesome.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, well, looking forward to having her here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, you're gonna love her. She's really fantastic. And it was just so fun. And you know, I keep talking about connection. You know, I met Patrick. We'll talk about it, but I met him at the Hot Pot restaurant with Ace, And you know, just meeting people either on Instagram or out in the world and actually trading a number and actually getting together is so rare. It's usually drunk plans and you go, oh, why do I do that? I don't feel like that right now. Right now, I'm in a very open period of time of meeting or reconnecting with people and spending time with them. And I'm you know, having dinner with people tomorrow night and at lunch next week whatever that I'm just very much looking forward to, which isn't usually like usually I make a plan and I go, oh, do I have to go? Oh?
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Speaker 2: I do that all the time.
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Speaker 1: I think most of us do.
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Speaker 2: When you when you get into the phase of like really wanting to meet people, you're because you just need that like connection rejuvenation in your life, because it's just you need it.
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Speaker 1: You do need it. And I think what I like about it for me right now is that it's sort of you know, holiday season adjacent, and so we're I like that it's happening now, not in the middle of the holiday season where it feels like there's too many things and too many parties or too many lunches or whatever it is. I have no idea what the what the season is going to look like. I have We have very few plans right now. We're not traveling, and you know, the kids are coming home for Thanksgiving and Hanukah and Christmas, but ye know we're staying home. I don't know we're doing.
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Speaker 4: You have three different houses that you have to hand out candy for Halloween at.
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Speaker 1: Now I think they only come to one of them.
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Speaker 4: Oh, well, time to go to the other two.
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Speaker 1: Well, one of them is not really possible, and the other one. Yeah, the other two are a little hard to get to get up to it. Yeah, they will have earned the candy, that's for sure. Yeah. So that's what's going on with me. Oh in my hip. Yeah, so I think I've told everyone, but I've been having these hip problems. So like a year ago I had a cortizone injection and one hip, and then six months ago I did both. It was this outfelt. I was driving all the time, I was in carpool and I would get out of the car. I mean I was in the car sometimes driving for two and a half hours at a clip. And because by the time I left my house, got there, picked them up, drove them to the this, you know, dropped them off there, drove home, picked up that, went back, pick up from baseball, whatever it is, You're in the car for hours. I had so many parents do this as is not you know, special for me. But I would get out of the car and limp. It was so painful, and they told me to start leaning my chair back and don't sit up so straight. I'm like, oh my gosh, really, And yeah, a few weeks ago it just got worse and worse and worse, and I kept honestly working out running, but like not aggressively. You know. I didn't do anything terrible. There was no event, but it just got bad. And last week I couldn't walk like I thought I was gonna have to get a cane. I had to lean on things. It was so painful. I got another injection. It helped ish. And then yesterday I got an MRI and it was They called it an arthogram with an MRI, which might be diagnostic sometimes, but this wasn't they do an orthogram. It's it's like this. It's almost like an X ray. I guess. It's like this big machine and they put it over you and you can they can see inside so they know where to put the needle and they literally inject the dye directly into your hip. I'm gonna tell you something that was painful. Yeah, they put light a cain. I don't care.
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Speaker 4: Pain fall among all the physical pain you've ever had in your life.
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Speaker 1: Where does that ring? It was high? It was really painful.
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Speaker 2: Did it hit your bone?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I started I had my arms crossed across my chest and I started like hitting myself like this, like one hand against the other, just to you know, distract myself because it was so painful. But I didn't want to move because I didn't want them to have to do it twice. Oh yeah, So they put the die in and then I hung out for a few minutes, and then they took me in another room and they did the amur.
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Speaker 2: I saw a video of all these nurses doing trying to inject a needle into a balloon, and they're true, really is like a talent for nurses that can put a needle in, because that's how Sometimes it hurts and sometimes it doesn't hurt.
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Speaker 1: The this was the radiologist. Oh yeah, maybe they're not as I have no idea. I'm just telling you. This thing was painful and then it felt so weird afterwards, and then I was snack mom. So I went from there to Ace's flag football game with the pizzas and the doughnuts and the waters and thanks Mom. He was very appreciative, I have to say. But yeah, so now I'm just I'm waiting. I'm like literally looking at my phone right now, waiting if any of my results are in.
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Speaker 4: Not yet, you do a lot, Heather, in case no one ever.
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Speaker 1: Says thanks, Oh, I do as much as every other parent out there. We all do a lot. I'm not special, but I appreciate you saying that. I am, no, but I really I am very excited about the guests that we've coming up through the end of the year. It's really great and love to hear from everyone out there, all of you who you've enjoyed. You know what I think would be fun? I wonder if we should put together a list of all the guests we've had on the show in twenty twenty three. Yeah, and here, like who people's top few guests were and why. I would really love to know that, especially since or maybe just since we like sort of rebranded the show. When did that happen? July March, March beginning, jewelry March. Yeah, June March summer. Do not like that idea?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, good, we're doing it. Yeah, let's do it cool. Let's let's see what people are thinking, because I have to say the comments that I get on social are really great. The comments that that I get from all of you. It used to be, oh, I love listening to you, like more generic ones. Now they're very specific, which I love talking about a specific something that some one of my guests said or that I said, or I love that that makes me so happy I'm doing these I'm starting these lunches. I I think did talk about this with one of the guests, one of them, very very briefly.
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Speaker 2: You've mentioned it a while ago, you were thinking about it.
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Speaker 1: So I mentioned a while ago that I'm starting these lunches. And I just wrote a list of about fifty women that I have been in touch with had on my podcast. We're Instagram friends, people that have touched me in some way or that I you know, haven't seen in a while, like that kind of thing, but people with something to say. And I randomly just picked ten of them, nine of them, ten including me, and I'm having lunch. And I'm just going to keep picking random tens and putting lunches together because I am really wanting connection right now. And I don't know if anyone else is feeling that way, but I am and connection with people I want to. You know, sometimes you don't have time for people right because we're all you have a job, you have a partner, you have children, you have daily life. You can't get together and have lunches and dinners and coffees with so many different people, so you tend to just stick with your core. But before we get into the craziness of holiday season and all that, I'm very excited to connect with these women that i haven't been able connect with, and now I'm in La more I have the opportunity to do it. So I'm doing the first of those lunches this week and I'm so excited about it. But it's so funny. Some of them, you know, we're texting me like, well, what's the purpose? You know? Are you know? Are you selling condos? Is it you know? Are we filming it? Are you? And I was like, no, no, no, I just I want to have lunch and some of you will know each other and some of you won't, and hopefully you'll leave with a smile, a new friend, a connection, or maybe just like a pearl of wisdom you know that you got from one of the other gals that that's my intention, and so I'm so excited to do it. So if that reson I'll tell I'll let you know how it went. But if that resonates with you at all, you guys should do it too. It It doesn't have to be ten people, could be three, could be whatever you want it to be. Anyway, Patrick Star with three RS is on today three times the fabulous, So so so excited to have him here. And don't forget to keep checking my website Heatherdebo dot com. We're about to update it. You'll find every link and every everything. Plus we're gonna put all of the former newsletters on there for all of you that have been asking for those. All right, thank you guys so much. Day tuned. Patrick Stars up next. I'm very excited for my guest today. He's such an icon. We met perchance, I'll tell you the whole story. He's a makeup artist, he's a YouTube where he is a fierce Filipino ceo. Makeup is a one size fits all. Please welcome Patrick Star. Hello.
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Speaker 3: This is so unreal to me, real to me too, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: So we have to tell the story about how we met. Yes, from auspicious beginnings became our friendship.
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Speaker 3: It was at the hotpot, Yes, at Heidi Lao, a century city. It's this It's this Asian place where there's a pot in the middle of the table and you just go to this buffet and you get all your accoutrements and yes, and your sauce you throw them in the thing. And I had sat down at the booth across and you were facing me. And I went there with my girlfriend and I was like, that's Heather du Bro over there.
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Speaker 1: Well, you were with two people.
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Speaker 3: Oh I think it was. Yeah, it was with my brother and my other friend.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but are they on TikTok?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Yes, because this is what happened. My son A went and he recognized them, and I said I didn't know them, and I was like, oh, and I looked over and I saw you and I went.
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Speaker 3: No, that's Patrick's star.
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Speaker 1: Of course.
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Speaker 3: On my way out, I was like, let me say hi.
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Speaker 1: I was excited.
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so crazy like once upon a hot pot.
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Speaker 1: But isn't that so fun? I have to say, in the last two years between the podcast, being in La again a lot and all that, I have met such amazing people and I really just love how we end up being friends friends. Like I was just telling you before we came on, I was at a gala on Saturday and incredible people there that I'd never met before, actors, actresses, personalities, whatever, you know. I've got dinner plans with one lunch plans. I just love that. So we're gonna have to have a date, yes, an actual not at Heidi Lou somewhere else, somewhere else, somewhere else. But I'm really thrilled.
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Speaker 3: You're here, so honored to be here. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go back to the beginning, because I have to say, like I've always been very struck by your story, by where you came from. As you know, I'm a mom of four kids or all different genders and different sexualities, and my kids are sort of lucky enough to grow up in a place with parents that support and can give them the community that they need. But that wasn't entirely true when you were where you were living.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up in Orlando, Florida. I was born in New York and then I grew up in Orlando, Florida. And my parents we came from a two bedroom apartment in New York City and then we moved to Orlando with five acres and that was where the money went. And then they we could afford internet, cable anything else. So it was just like my imagination and I would watch whatever was on the four channels, like pageants or the makeover shows, and in that era of the two thousands, and I think growing up as a Disney kid, I loved the idea of transformation and princesses and what you what could be of your life, and so I adopted that transformation like idea and fantasy and they wanted it for me. And having immigrant parents that became citizens, you know, we're going to play by the rules here and you're going to grow up and you're going to go to college, and we have everything set for you. We save money for your prepaid college and this is this is your path, right what you're going to do.
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Speaker 1: So how does that go over when you're like, hey, listen, new plan.
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Speaker 3: It's it's kind of like a It was like a little secret at first, you know, like being gay was like a little secret. Like wanting to do makeup was like a little secret. Because I studied classical piano when I was very young, and I loved like America's Next Top Model, and I loved like pageants and I loved like these makeover shows. And I was like, Okay, there's something that I want to be a I want to be a part of that Hollywood fantasy like doing makeup, being on set. So I did photography and I was teaching piano at the same time when I was sixteen years old, and just to make a little bit of money. And then I think, you know, doing photography and also teaching piano, it kind of foreshadowed my skill set to be a influencer, entrepreneur, makeup artists because then I took an instrument and I was able to teach instrument, but makeup was my instrument then. And so I had my parents, you know, they had no idea that I was doing this behind their back. I was like pretending to do like little photo shooes like cousin campaign.
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Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I mean, like, of all the things parents worry about their children doing, you were doing the most beautiful thing ever.
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Speaker 3: I think it was also like the judgment of what it is to be gay or a minority.
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Speaker 1: And then how were the kids at school at that time?
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Speaker 3: Horrible? Horrible, like like there was bullies, But I hid away in the arts side of the school, like I was in marching band, I was in choir, I was in drama, and and then I think being in that department, people were like, oh, I need headshots or I need a piano accompanist. So I was living in that kind of section of the school and being safe there. And then I think being in a program with like band kind of taught me to be a community person, kind of taught me to listen really really well, because in music you have to listen to everybody else. You listen to the other instruments to make one whole song.
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Speaker 1: It's a group of ever.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And how were your parents when you eventually came out to them?
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Speaker 3: It was hard. I'm one of three Patrick Peter Paul.
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Speaker 1: We're all we're all peas on purpose. Yes, Catholic Saints love Patrick Sant Peter Paul.
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Speaker 3: So we grew up in the church, and yeah, it was it was a little bit hard. They didn't know how to deal with it. But I think being the oldest of three, I wanted to prove to them that I was doing this the right way. I was doing it with a conscious I wasn't doing it just to be brash or just to you know, irrationally. I really had like a business plan, you know, along the way.
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Speaker 1: So when did you decide to get a job at MAC.
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Speaker 3: I got a job at MAC. I was working at Panera, and I remember I was freelancing in my little Koboodo kid and I was like, Okay, I want to do weddings, but I only have cover Girl in Maybolene. But I need something like Fancier so my clients can have like this feel good that I'm using high quality product, and I think Mac is that brand. So I would go into Mac and like I would buy one thing and then add it to my kit, and then every time I would go back, I would like befriend a makeup artist there and say, hey, are you guys hiring here? I would love to learn more because I don't have any formal training, and so they said, yeah, you can get a part time position. So that was like around twenty twelve where I learned how to sell makeup and how to do makeup through there. But it wasn't my first week that I was asked to remove my makeup there because it was too flamboyant. It was the southeast. It's Florida to South, like this glam boy version should be for another location because we're much more conservative in this location of Florida.
00:30:10
Speaker 1: So how does that make you feel?
00:30:12
Speaker 3: Oh? It was? It was so it was so it was so bad.
00:30:17
Speaker 1: You're like, this is supposed to be my place.
00:30:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was the time, but I learned how to be professional. I just you know, water uffa ducts back. And then it foreshadowed my career because then three years later Mack had asked me, because of my following and how much I was selling, to have this crazy licensing deal where I was to create five collections with Mac Cosmetics internationally, following Mariah Carey twenty sixteen Mariah Carey, and then twenty seventeen was Patrick Starr, twenty eighteen was Patrick Star. So really really cool adversity in all in one, all right, But.
00:30:55
Speaker 1: Explain to people because I know there's a lot of you know, people out there that would want to do what you do. Not that everyone can do what you do, but how does a starting off make up? Because I have some celebrity makeup friends who will tell me like they had to really fight with their parents. They did not think this was a viable gig and didn't really understand that there is this is this is a real job. This is what's the word I'm looking for. It's a direction, it's a career.
00:31:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a coat is it is a career, you know, it's being freelanced. You have to just you have to go for it. But don't forget where you come from, because there are themes in my past that helped me validate my next move. Being a piano teacher of like five or six students, I said, hey, that's crazy. These kids are learning from me at seventeen years old. So what is the theme in that lesson me as a teacher? These kids are feeling so fulfilled playing the song by a composer that's no longer alive, and they're putting their own twist on it. So that validated me to be a good teacher. And then I loved art, and so you know, I worked at Panera too, and I remember listening to customers saying I need look right above my head and look at the menu and say I need a sandwich or I want And I listened to how people would talk about what they need and what they wanted. So being a good listener made me a great makeup artist. Being a good teacher made me a great makeup artist because what happens over time is trust and respect. That's like the secret formula to having people believe in you. Trust and respect happens through time. So I think over time by telling my parents like hey, I like this, I like this, they may not believe in it. I had to earn their trust and I had to earn their respect. And now that I have a company, I have a business. I've amassed millions of views online. It's taken ten years of being Patrick Starr to have trust and respect from millions of people to put money into something that I promote or something that I create. And that's something that is a very hard thing to grasp because time is fixed. And so I think I just had to tell my parents, like, trust me and believe in me. I'm not here to hurt you. You're not here to hurt me. My makeup comes off at the end of the day. Makeup is a one size fits all.
00:33:26
Speaker 1: How are they about it now?
00:33:27
Speaker 3: They must they're like huge fans. Yeah, I flew them out last night, so they're here. So I'm being honored tonight at city Hall for being a trailblazer in the arts or for Filipino Americans in the state of color Fortia.
00:33:40
Speaker 1: That is so fantastic, you know, by the way I was just I was telling you I just got my hair colored with flow Yes. Yes, and he loves you and he wanted me to say high, he's fantastic.
00:33:50
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember being in Las Vegas with him and he had Justin Bieber's dreadlocks in a zip block.
00:33:56
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:56
Speaker 3: Well, and I was like, what is this because you cut his hair?
00:34:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, fabulous, amazing.
00:34:02
Speaker 3: That always comes to mind when I hear that.
00:34:05
Speaker 1: I just love him, you know, And so one of the things that I find incredible about you. You know, I followed you for years. I love what you do. You're obviously very, very talented. But you know what residents with me the most is that any time I bring your name up to someone that knows you or has met you always says the same thing. Oh he's lovely, Oh thank you, she's so nice, he's so kind. And I love that because you know, you have created this beautiful community and everyone looks up to you, and I hate hearing stories about people that aren't that way.
00:34:38
Speaker 3: It's it's a heart it's really really hard. And I think being an influencer versus being a celebrity, we control our own narrative and we're responsible for our entire career. Even if you do have a manager, even if you have relationships that go sour like it's it's all up to you. And I think that's where the world of entertainment is pivoting from being on shows, you know, beyond shows, and having someone else control it or have it produced like you have that. And I'm seeing publications and different types of media like turn to the digital platform because you can control the narrative, you can control your engagement. And I realized how lucky we are, how lucky I am as an influencer to have this control of what I want to say.
00:35:22
Speaker 1: Yeah for me, which is great, but it's also it's a little bit of a double edged sword for some people. I was just on the phone with a girlfriend of mine who's got a big TikTok following, and she's on the precipice of how to take it to the next level, and so I was talking to her and I was like, well, here's the thing I think, when you're an influencer, tell me if you agree. I don't know, might be talking out of turn. I said, if you're an actor or you're a musician, you can reinvent yourself. Madonna's had, you know, twelve personalities, looks, you know, voices, whatever. I mean, She's amazing, but she's really good at the reinvent. I said, I think when you're an influencer and you have found a niche that is working for you, you really have one shot to take that to the next level. Do you agree with that or not agree with that?
00:36:08
Speaker 3: There's different ways to I think diversify how you want to be perceived. And so, for example, in my early career, I was an influencer self first person application type of makeup artists. I was doing makeup on myself and I said, okay, how can I have more people trust me? They're just going to see, oh, he's gay. He probably does drag queen type of makeup. And I said, let me do makeup on my mom, or let me do makeup on me.
00:36:32
Speaker 1: By the way, your mom is the cutest thing. We'll talk about it.
00:36:35
Speaker 3: Thank you. So I was doing makeup on different types of people and I started winning over that type of demographic like Latina's or my black girls or white girls like I diversified that and it wasn't until Kiky Palmer had asked me to do her makeup. I was like, I have a fears black celebrity, and then that led to more celebrities, and I have the most beautiful celebrities in the history of YouTube. From Katie Perry, Kim Kardashi and Chris Jenner, par Hilton and Yomi Campbell, Tyra Banks, Raven Simone, Naliza Vanderpool, Ashley Tisdale, Mattie Ziegler. It's crazy. I just think when Stefani last week.
00:37:08
Speaker 1: Did you do it for the star? No?
00:37:10
Speaker 3: No, no, I didn't, but we film the video. It's out on my channel. But it's cool just to see these different types of beauties help pivot my career by diversifying my one medium and that turned into more opportunities for me, and by also positioning my voice as a host as or in skits, people started trusting me and say, hey, he could probably be funny, he could be a cameo in this show, or he could he's well spoken, he could be we could do pr with him. And I'm on Drew Brarymore or I'm presenting Drew Braymore an award, you know. So it's kind of like that thing where where it's so beautiful to be online, but to control your voice and organize how you want to diversify is really important and in a matter of time, people other people, other institutions will trust and respet back to you to participate in their institution.
00:38:03
Speaker 1: So what was your first to big? I mean, I want to talk about your podcast that you started in the pandemic. Are you going to bring that back?
00:38:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I have time.
00:38:12
Speaker 1: I know your visits, But what was your first medium that you really popped on?
00:38:17
Speaker 3: YouTube? It was YouTube. You were in the YouTube, YouTube, Instagram and that era. And I think now it's a lot harder because there's so much output that's expective expected of the user. But I think, just keep shit simple, you know. So I was posting on Instagram pictures that was the picture only type of app, and then Snapchat was kind of like the story version of Instagram, and then YouTube and YouTube. You can imagine if you think about what YouTube did for so many creators from my era. Your my videos were probably ten to twenty minutes, and I posted once a week on Friday, every Friday at two o'clock, right after kids got out of school. So think about ten twenty minutes times four times twelve. That's a lot of hours a year that they're spending with me, and this past February, I've hit four hundred million views in the life start the lifetime of my channel, And I think about how people on the street or young girls will say, oh.
00:39:15
Speaker 1: My god, you taught me how to do you make up?
00:39:17
Speaker 3: And you did this. I grew up with you, and it's crazy that I've been able to have that type of quality connection versus now TikTok it's like five seconds, six seconds your trend well, I mean.
00:39:26
Speaker 1: You know it's short attention spam theater. Now, do you feel the need to create more now because of like that, because of the tiktoks?
00:39:36
Speaker 3: I feel the need to create quality. Yeah, quality connection, that's what it's about. I think there's a lot of there's like a lot of plans and game plans to have you know, like like output, just to have output and just to feed all these buckets. But when I think about, you know, when The Little Mermaid came out this year, and I remember seeing the wide screen and seeing Little Mermaid in the water and the movies a little over an hour and a half, I'm thinking, Wow, I really got to connect with that character. And I believe that the actress is playing aerial and Prince Eric and I see them and I think about social media. You're on vertical, it's really really short and people just swipe. So how can I penetrate someone's mind and heart to show who I am like Ariel did to me in that amount of time.
00:40:34
Speaker 1: And what's the answer to that.
00:40:36
Speaker 3: I think to prioritize quality connection, no matter how long, no matter how short, whatever the format be, what is going to allow you to connect to your audience and your audience could be your potential consumer. And I think having had worked on it comes from me also being really really insecure, being overweight, Filipino, bald, gay, like all the above, I always strive to be you know, glam and for people to see in me and I was I'm very service oriented. I was a photographer, I taught piano. I have something for you, and I think videos did. That's it's an act of selfish selflessness to provide YouTube and to demystify the celebrity or to demystify what it means to be beautiful. And I could sit on my channel bald and then show how I get really clam and to a degree it inspires people with yes, if your horse or you know, have a skin similar to mine. But like, with all that being said, I think quality connection is really really important.
00:41:38
Speaker 1: Authenticity always sells. I mean, whether it's a reality show or how you show up on your social media, it is authenticity. People will ask me about, you know, being on like Housewives, and I'll say, you know, some girls will come on these shows and be like, oh, I want to be the classy one. I'm the classy one, and then they're vomiting in the bushes all the time. I'm like, honey, you're not the classy one. That's not your is not your lane. You got to pick something else there. But when you show up authentically, I think that's what it really resonates.
00:42:13
Speaker 3: And that's why I have to I have to just say, like, I'm such a fancir of you because you're so fucking shameless with the glam and showing your mom And the thing is, it's like the way you would show off, you know, the home, and but there's something endearing about how you say, but this section is for my kids. This tree is where I'm going to put all the kids arts and crafts. Yeah, but this is where I have my theme. But I always have my tree where they have their macaroni frames, and I'm like, that's so cool because you personify not just the glitz, but you show a little piece of you and your children that's an extension of you. And I'm like, that's fucking cool. That's what the fuck I wish I would have seen on Housewives, but to see you control the narrative outside of the fame from your husband, like you carved your own lane. Yeah, and that resonated with me. She has a gift wrapping in the room, Mike, what the hell.
00:43:05
Speaker 4: Is so cool?
00:43:06
Speaker 1: And well, I am out there fancy. I mean, I'm not apologizing for that.
00:43:10
Speaker 3: That's that's the cool part about it.
00:43:12
Speaker 1: Thank you.
00:43:12
Speaker 3: I love it. I appreciate that.
00:43:14
Speaker 1: I think when I left the show the first time and took a break and when they asked me to come back. You may have heard this, but when they asked me to come back, you know, we had a family meeting about it and we talked about it, and I'm like, look, you know, we have a very interesting family. Our kids are all really interesting, and wouldn't it be nice to use the platform to start conversations in other people's families? Because I was telling you, I co shared this gala with my high school friend who's gay, and he was telling me, you know, a story about his life, how he felt and he didn't come out till later because of where we lived and the whole thing. And he said, and I didn't see anyone out there that was me, so I had nothing to model. No one was telling me it was okay. So what I try to use my platform for is saying it's all okay, this is all cool, this is all normal, this is all biology, and the whole point of life is to have good relationships with people that are wonderful, your family, your friends, your community. And that's exactly what you do. And what I find so amazing is that you not only you know, were strong enough to go after what she wanted, but you continue to be this icon that other people can see. I mean, I'm telling you when Flow is like, oh my Filipino beer, he was going on, and I'm like you, you are now showing all these other teenagers, these kids, these young adults, that anything is possible.
00:44:46
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it goes back to that Disney mentality. I call it Disney Princess energy.
00:44:52
Speaker 1: Speaking of Disney Princess, Oh my gosh, snow White.
00:44:56
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:44:57
Speaker 1: So wait, so it's Disney's hundredth anniversary. Yes, and so what was the event.
00:45:01
Speaker 3: I went to this royal ball at the Walt Disney Studios in Burbank, and how was that? It was fabulous. We're in like Walt Disney's office. They show all their archives and I dressed up as snow White. But it's funny. I had that costume made like six years ago from Heidi Kloon's Halloween party and I still had it, and I was like, I think it's appropriate to have it for Disney. So yes, yeah, that's where I had. I loved dressing up. I loved dressing up.
00:45:28
Speaker 1: So what's Halloween.
00:45:29
Speaker 3: It's a big deal Halloween transformation. I just did squid Word Human squid Word. I did Alvin and the Chipmunks prosthetics with my brothers. And it's crazy what social media can do, because let me tell you, when I did these Disney transformations, and I was doing the red carpet for all these movie premieres and I'm just this invited, not as an actor, not as a guest or I mean anything in the movie, but a simple guest to help promote the movie. One of the licensed. Disney executives came up to me and said, we should do a one size Disney collection with you. And I'm like, are you sure, Like, is me being gay appropriate for Disney? And they said, no, we'd love to create it. Oh, you must section with one size. So I did it last year. And they said, if you can choose any Disney animated character in our in our entire archives, who would you pick?
00:46:21
Speaker 1: And I said, like to transform, no.
00:46:23
Speaker 3: To feature in a collection? Yeah, you did collection, And I said, I'm going to go for Mickey Mouse. I know it's probably a little bit of a reach, but they said, let's talk to the team and they licensed Mickey Mouse spantasias to me, and I created a whole in time.
00:46:39
Speaker 1: I have to go take a dive on that.
00:46:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll sign it to you.
00:46:42
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. We just went. We were at Disney a couple of weeks ago. We got invited to twenty one Royal.
00:46:48
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
00:46:49
Speaker 1: Oh I haven't okay, let me tell you. So it was like it was the craziest night, but briefly like I've never been to Club thirty three. I worked at Disney. Oh my god, I sang at the Golden Horseshoe Jamboree. I was Miss Lily at Big Blonde Wig and by the way, blonde not good on me. But it was really it was fun. It was like a year my first year that I lived in California, and it was cool. And then so we went we got invited to this thing and there's six couples and you go kind of through the backstage and they bring you there and I guess it was an apartment that Walt Disney had designed for himself. And so you go there and there's buttons everywhere, Magical things happen, and they serve the most beautiful wines and champagnes. Food was gorgeous, private chefs just for this venue. And then you watch you go out on the balcony and you watch the fireworks. It was phenomenal.
00:47:48
Speaker 3: I have a very fond memory in that location, in Walt Disney's apartment on the Disneyland property. I was invited in twenty fifteen with Instagram, the actual egg executives and founders and product developers of Instagram, with a bunch of other influencers, and this I've never told the story, but they said, hey, what do you think of the app Instagram, how could we be better? And this is when Instagram just introduced video capability. So it was those fifteen second videos. And I remember because I was taking my YouTube videos and turning them into fifteen second viral clips. They went really, really viral in twenty sixteen, and I remember getting a lot of you know, because they hit the explore page and it just you know, catapulted in the stratosphere of everywhere. But with a lot of views could come a lot of like questionable hate emojis. There was like gun emojis, like monster emojis, and a lot of a lot of negativity. And so Instagram asked me in that apartment, they said, what could we do. I said, well, your competitor YouTube were able to filter comments, you know, of works that are inappropriate. And this is my domain. So I think of it like my home. And if I in my people to my home, take your shoes off and leave your shit at the door. Yes, and so the like a month later, because I told the product developers and executives, they implement it. Filtering words on the app in twenty sixteen. From that Walt Disney apartment.
00:49:19
Speaker 1: That is amazing. It's because of you. Well, thank you for that, because I remember being on Instagram, and you know, housewife fans can be brutal man. And it's your domain, it's your space, it's your account. Oh yeah, I remember going in there. I was like, let me see what word bitch, counflut, horror, hate, snake emoji, right, yeah, all of those things. Yeah, But I think the hardest thing I mean right now, well, two things. First of all, as we're talking about authenticity, sometimes I think people make their content so precious then they worry about what it is so much it loses it right. And then I also think people try to create a vibe that isn't really their vibe and that doesn't sell either. The problem that I feel like many influencers are having right now. I don't call myself an answer, but me included. I mean, I don't have any following like yours, but it's my little following. I worry with everything that's going on in the world is horrifying. I'm Jewish, and there's many emotions that are involved in all of this, not just for Jewish people but just for humans. And on both sides of this. You know, it's we're still talking about children and civilians, and I've posted about it, and you know, my dear friend Chef Bey came over the other day and we did a little collab together to try to raise money for the kids for feeding kids in the Middle East. But it's walking the line of not living in it every day. And how do you balance all of it? Because are you getting hate when you post something that's not about what's going on?
00:51:07
Speaker 3: You know, it depends. I think it depends on who you are and what your actual a genre is and then if you were to tap into because because I'm in the beauty genre right, I'm in beauty, I'm in transformation, I'm in you know, the beauty cosmetic space. And so I think before talking about it, you have to make the most conscious decision, and I think people people respect it. I mean, of course people will comment or send dms, but I think because we ultimately hold the control and it is our platform or our soapbox, we have to do everything in our responsibility to have the most make the most conscious decision. That involves getting the correct information, making sure you say the right thing, yes, making sure that it is appropriate for anyone that's to read it, because this is a public, you know, and so's that's the hard part too. It's like, how do you also make sure that you're in your well being if you're to step into this, because once you put it out there, it's your responsibility it totally have to stand by it.
00:52:16
Speaker 1: So there is a bunch of celebrities that have been really like strong activists out there in a really beautiful way and basically saying, you know, so many people are scared to post anything because they're scared of the backlash of it. I think the message that I just want to put out there is that we're all doing the best we can and a lot of us are also here to try and our job is entertainment, and so what we do is try to take you away from it for a few minutes.
00:52:46
Speaker 3: Also too, I think everyone listening out there too. You have to understand it's yet in our fingertips, but who knows what you may not be seen behind the scenes that we could be doing that is just as effective, if not more, by actually taking action. Yes, and so is even if we do film it, like does it look you know, performative.
00:53:11
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the problem. You know, people will say to me, like we sold our house for a lot of money, and they'll be like, well, how much of you are you giving to charity. It's like if I told people what I gave, then I would be bragging. And what is it like charity whispers?
00:53:26
Speaker 3: Yes, performative.
00:53:27
Speaker 1: But then if you don't say anything, then you probably don't and you're a genable person. You really can't win in those arenas. Tell me about your mom. She's so cute and I love that you include her.
00:53:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's well. When I moved to La, I wanted to make sure that my mom felt like like a part of, you know, my life, and so I put her on social media. And I think because a lot of people don't have families that support them because of their sexual identity or sexual orientation, it was important to show that my mom accepts me. And I told her, I was like, you have the world also watching you too, and there's a lot of Filipinos that probably don't support their children, and do you want to be that example?
00:54:11
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, that makes me cry and so.
00:54:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I see a lot of them parents come to me and say, oh my god, I'm Filipino too. You make us so proud and blah, blah blah. And then I see their children like fangirl and I'm like, you know, make sure you support them and I remind them to that.
00:54:27
Speaker 1: But you're doing that.
00:54:28
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm trying my best.
00:54:30
Speaker 1: You're doing great.
00:54:31
Speaker 3: Thank you.
00:54:32
Speaker 1: We're going to play a game.
00:54:33
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:54:33
Speaker 1: If it's not good, at Steve's fault, okay, because I have not pre looked at this. Okay, but wait, I did my makeup very fast this morning, and then I had my hair colored. Judge, you look beautiful.
00:54:45
Speaker 3: You look exactly studying and gorgeous and way that I want you to do my makeup.
00:54:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, gam can we do that? I love it. By the way, my son, as he wanted me to ask you, he's like, can you please ask Patrick? He was, I love his turban? He goes, does he do it to give himself extra height?
00:55:04
Speaker 3: Yes?
00:55:05
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly. That's a good question.
00:55:08
Speaker 3: Really yeah, I'm like five six, I'm like two fifty, and I'm like, could I be like five nine, like two fifty?
00:55:16
Speaker 1: Well if he starts walking around with a turban? Now, well now he sat My husband wear's lifts in his shoes, like you know. One day he said to me, we have a friend who makes men's clothes, and he was telling us, I can't tell you, like, you got this famous celebrity who's not all that tall and wears these shoes that have these everet everyone does it. Oh my gosh. And so finally this was like, I don't know, it's could have been fifteen years ago. I said to Terry, I'm like, just get the fucking shot. So I bought him twenty pairs of the shoes, and I was like, here you go, dear, there's sneakers. There's oh he loves it, queen, why can't we he loves it? Or here we go?
00:55:52
Speaker 3: This is just rapid fire opinions and advice is.
00:55:55
Speaker 1: The goal from our straight, non makeup wearing friends. Carry go Mary, kill Bronzer Primer concealer.
00:56:03
Speaker 3: Oh Bronzer. I would. I could kill Bronzer, Mary Primer and kill what was the other one?
00:56:11
Speaker 1: Fuck Mary and kill fuck what was the other product? Oh Bronzer Primer, concealer, concealer.
00:56:18
Speaker 3: I would.
00:56:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would conceal it too, but I might marry concealer is the thing I might Bronzer. I think I would kill Primer. I have said, all right, So years ago when Clayton Poe first became like a thing. They had a primer and every time you took a photo, your face would look white. It was very it was like pink. Do you know what I'm talking about. I don't know if they've changed the formulation. Doyn't never send me anything now. I'm just telling you didn't like that. Turn me off of primers. Yes, so we may need to talk about primers all right. Rank these from the most overrated to the most underrated. Highlighting, contouring, bronzing.
00:56:58
Speaker 3: Think overrated to underrated. Yeah, I feel like, like.
00:57:04
Speaker 1: What's the most important thing? Highlighting, conjouring or.
00:57:08
Speaker 3: Really the most important? Okay, conjouring can be like last, and then highlighting is in the middle. In the middle. Yeah.
00:57:17
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at your lips and they look fabulous and they're overdrawn, but you have a beautiful bo. You have a beautiful cup.
00:57:25
Speaker 3: It's bo.
00:57:25
Speaker 1: People always try to color mine in. But I had a makeup artist once draw a lip on me that was so hot. It was like literally and I have a short nose, Like it was so high and I I didn't have glasses on it. I couldn't say. I'm like, oh, looks great, whatever, And I walked away, and I went into the bathroom, and I wish I had taken a photo. I started laughing. But that is a big trend, the very very overdrawn lips.
00:57:50
Speaker 3: Not like what you have, like the big I feel like minor Hella overdrawn girl.
00:57:54
Speaker 1: Not really, your line is right above your natural living by. I don't know all right. What is the best way to deal with clumpy eyelashes?
00:58:03
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, clumpy eyelashes with mascara? I think like getting a better mascara. Yeah, you know what having a lash comb is so so so.
00:58:14
Speaker 1: I haven't had one in years.
00:58:15
Speaker 3: I need to get one. A lash comb. Yes, there's a spoollion one in and there's a lash like metal comb like suicide or there's a yes, yes, changes the game.
00:58:24
Speaker 1: That's good. Let me ask you this your beauty blender. What do you use? You like phone me for you like phone? You like brushes?
00:58:34
Speaker 3: What do you use a little bit of both?
00:58:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not good with the brushes with the foundation.
00:58:40
Speaker 3: Well, uh, yeah, you like the sponge.
00:58:43
Speaker 1: I like the sponge. Sponge I'll use I think the sponge was a good game changer. Yes, and I use my fingers.
00:58:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fingers are great too.
00:58:51
Speaker 1: I like my fingers all right. So what are the top products we all need in our makeup bag?
00:58:57
Speaker 3: M top makeup products I have, you know, held the number one and number two spot in the setting powder in Sepphorth called the Ultimate setting powder translucent. Everyone is wearing it.
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Speaker 1: Steve wants to buy it first, girlfriend, Yeah, who's asking about it?
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Speaker 3: Our translation setting powder and our our pink setting powder is really really good to ultra pink. It's blurring, it's it makes your skins so smooth. So I see a lot of people that are sweaty or that want their.
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Speaker 1: Makeup to stay. It's a beautiful.
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Speaker 3: Formula and it's by one size Beauty.
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Speaker 1: So my thing with my I was just going to ask something about that. That just took me out of my thing. What was I going to ask about the makeup? It'll come back to me. I have percocet brain right by the way. Tell me about one Size Beauty.
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Speaker 3: One Size Beauty is a brand I started in twenty twenty and it's a huge brand on social media and it comes from my mantra that makeup is a one size fits all. So we are here to give permission to love yourself through makeup. And I started this because, you know, it was a love letter to my younger self. And I hope other people can see that they too can participate in feeling beautiful and be okay with that with no one else's permission but their own.
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Speaker 1: And I love that. I remember my question, this is what I'm asking because we're talking about setting powder. So I love a setting powder and I love so do you when you use the spray the face is done, you spray it it dries, Do you go back over with a little powder in the t zone or you leave it alone? You know what?
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Speaker 3: I use a lot of powder and then I'll spray it to melt all the powder, and then I'll use the Ontil Dawn waterproof setting spray that Beyonce war in the rain?
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Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Crazy? How did you hear about that?
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Speaker 3: Her makeup artist texted me because I'm a licensed esthetician in the last year went to esthetician school, so I.
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Speaker 1: Said, hey, can I give you a facial?
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Speaker 3: So her makeup artist, Roqueal, came and got a facial for me at my beauty school and I was like, I was like, hey, like, what's up? Like, what are you doing. Of course I know he's doing beyond, Like, oh yeah, we're I'm gonna go on tour. This is before the Renaissance tour. And I was like, hey, I'll give you like any type of you know, makeup, and so I gave him, you know, every single one sized product and I said, this spray is waterproof, by the way, and I showed him a video of me jumping in the pool and showing the tome being white. And then he texted me he said, hey, it rained last night in Washington, d C. And we were two hours late. You know. I made a TikTok about it, and he goes, one size kept her intact and I was like, okay, that's cool. And it was just a personal text. And then on Instagram in his description he goes, thanks to one Size and Patrick Starr got us through the show us meaning you and freaking Beyonce and people were.
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Speaker 1: Like, she was there, she looked amazing, we were in.
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Speaker 3: The rain, oh blah blah. And I was like, okay, now it's public domain and I made a video and.
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Speaker 1: That's so great. Crazy is that amazing?
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Speaker 3: Everyone? Everyone? I sent Mariah carry a package. Kelly Rowland. I send a package. Madonna is wearing it on world tour.
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Speaker 1: I know, I'm amazing.
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Speaker 3: It's Lady Gaga too, So it's really really cool. I'm really honored.
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Speaker 1: It's so nice that you're helping all these up and coming young singers. Yeah, I know, right, I know, well, I love it. I adore you. Congratulations on all of your success. We're gonna do glam. Yes, I'm gonna have you come over. You can see Mike Christmas donations. Yes, they're gonna be so Yeah.
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Speaker 3: We'll turn you into like missus Sexy Claws. Oh yes, I'm in, except.
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Speaker 1: I already have gray. I think I think we're okay. Tell everyone how to find you on social and where to.
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Speaker 3: Get the products. You can find me everywhere at Patrick's Starr with three r's at the end p A C R I c K S t A R R R, and you can check out one Size and Sephora anywhere in North America and also sephoria dot com.
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Speaker 1: Why did you decide to use three rs?
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Speaker 3: Listen? It was available, Yeah, it was available. It just freaking suck. That's what it's been.
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Speaker 1: That's like me and passwords. I just keep tacking on another god damn exclamation, but you use that before one more seventy two exclamation points. Okay, good, Thank you for being here in heaven, thank you so much for being here, and thank you all for listening. Stay tuned for the next episode of Let's Talk.
Speaker 1: Let's talk with Heather du bros starts now. Oh you guys. Patrick Star is here today. I'm so so zozozo so excited. We have so many fun guests coming up. Steven Gaby are here, Hi guys, so many fun guests. Allie Webb is coming, Patrick Starr is here today. We got Florence and Romano. Her book is amazing about building your village. She's incredible. Chef Bay is going to come on. Who else we have coming on? Girls? Eat? Oh girls gotta EAT's coming on? So fun? I love it. Speaking of Chef By, did you see my social posts with Chef By?
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Speaker 2: I loved it?
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Speaker 3: You did?
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Speaker 2: It was so fun? I loved it.
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Speaker 1: She is so cool, she is going to come on the show. So what happened was I think we became Instagram friends. I think that's how I met her. I think I dm'd or on Instagram and we just started talking and started following each other, and then we traded phone numbers and texting and I was like, would you please come cook for me? And just coming over to cook for us turned into I mean a day full of content, honestly, which was crazy and fun and amazing. So, first of all, you have to understand. So we're living in three places right now. We've got a place in Orange County, and if you remember, we bought that apartment last year and then we bought this house that we're going to renovate.
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Speaker 4: How many kitchens between those three places.
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Speaker 1: There are three kitchens. Okay, however, one of the kitchens is in Orange County. All right, all right, so I decided, you know, she was going to come to Beverly Hills and cook. And so you know, when we're in LA we stay in the Beverly Hills place because there's not enough bedrooms in the apartment. I know, like rich girl problems whatever we're going to call that. But yeah, I know, forgive me. I don't mean to sound like an asshole about all this, but this is just how it's going. Right. So we can't stay in this house much longer because we're going to start, you know, breaking down the wall and doing all the things. So right now we're staying there through in some stage Foreurnerjurt's kind of hilarious. But anyway, So, by the way, I have been waiting for three months for blackout shades. I ordered them blinds dot Com. I'm just telling you I ordered them. You have to pay in fall. Let me make sure it's blinds dot com.
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Speaker 3: Blind's galore.
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Speaker 1: Now we're blinds dot Com. I'm gonna ask Nicole, let's shade them. Hold on, see if she answers. Hey, just very very quick question. I'm still doing my podcast. Is it blinds dot Com? Okay? Perfect?
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Speaker 3: Thank you?
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Speaker 1: Bye ye? Yes, yeah, go see what they have there? Okay, awesome, thank you bye? Okay, So let me do that again. So I ordered them from blinds dot Com. I am not sponsored by them. I pay in full. I just want to say all this. I've used them a couple of times because we've been in all of these temporary residences since we moved out of our house and Terry likes it blacked out. Okay, so we get to this place now, I must have ordered them. I don't know in August July. I don't even remember like that. And usually it takes there. They have to come measure and then you have to wait till all the blinds come in until they will give you an appointment to install them. And you want to use their installers, right right, so, because if something goes wrong then it's like their problem. Right as opposed to someone else. So I ordered the blonde. They gave a measure, We ordered the blinds. Weeks are going by, weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks, we which they should have been done already. Finally they're saying, oh, they're coming, they're coming, they're coming lies. And then we finally find out they didn't order them. Oh dear, they didn't order them, and so you'd think, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry this there's a rush shorder. No weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks a week. We are, now what at the end of October? So I'm going to tell you it's been close to four months, three and a half to four months. They delivered them two weeks ago. They wouldn't install them. We couldn't get an appointment. Couldn't get an appointment. I mean, they won't let you set up an appointment in advance. They finally come to put them all in. Two guys, very nice. Put them all in the bedroom. Word Tarry and I sleep. There's like five windows. They brought four blackout chads. Oh boy, one is missing. And they went through the whole order and whoever came and measured and did the whole thing just didn't put it on the order.
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Speaker 4: Would you say they turned a blind eye to the window.
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Speaker 1: I know he did it, So I mean, how long is that going to take?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 1: I think we might like be out of that house by the time the blind comes Blinds dot com Man, what the heck? Have you ever used them before?
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Speaker 4: Well this isn't exactly a rigging endorsement of them, but no.
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Speaker 1: But they've done a good job for us before, which I mean this is probably the third or fourth time that we use them. They're like those those black out chaps are like an accordion and you just like you pull it down, but it has to be done custom because you know, if you have weird window shapes or whatever it is.
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Speaker 4: You remember how those those trunks you were looking at in Paris took like a year to make. You think they would make them faster than Blind's doark And.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I should have Louis Vuitton make the blind that would there? You go, you have a special one blind one blind. Well guess what I'm buying the special black construction paper? Oh yeah, right, I was just gonna tape it on there, just got to just hang a blanket just like it needs to be, like on the window. Though I can't explain it, but it's so irritating. It's like, oh my god. And I'm not someone that like wakes with the sun. That's not really my vibe. But anyway, so there we go. So that why did I go off on the blind tangent chef by so? Also in this house was a stove that was so old it didn't work. The burners didn't work unless you took a lighter and turned on the gas and lit it.
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Speaker 2: Mind, does that I have a stove from like literally I think the fifties.
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Speaker 1: No, No, that's like you're talking about you're talking about Oh thank you rereading water and I could use that hold on, well, thank you, Gabby. That's different. You're talking about a cool classic stove that you have to light because at the time they made those stoves, they didn't have automatic igniters.
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Speaker 2: Mine does have a starter in it, but it just doesn't well actually not a starter. It has anyways, it used to do it. I used to start on its own, but now it has deteriorated and I have to do it now.
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Speaker 1: But yes, it is very cool, but it's vintage, yes, as vintage. This is not vintage. This is old. There's a difference between vintage and old. You could have a cool vintage car or you can have an old car.
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Speaker 2: What's the your threshold on that. I've been seeing stuff online where there's that the times are changing, like I saw one with this is different, but age when you're old, Like how old is old? Now?
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Speaker 1: From? Like what year you have to do? I saw someone saying the other day that they're not gonna call them so and age anymore. They're gonna say level because it sounds more bad as to be like I'm at level eighty. Oh yeah, yeah, I thought that was good anyway. So this stove is just wonky and bad and it doesn't work. So we called home depot. They sent out. I bought a stove, they sent it over. They don't install stoves, so you got to get a separate installer. So I had someone install the stove and then we used it and it for some reason, when you turned it on, it cracked the glass. Whoa, yeah, like at three hundred degrees that's not good. No, And I guess the end glass and the installer also left zip ties in the other stove, so they had to replace one of them, which Home Depot was very nice. I'm going to tell you they have great customer service. I really appreciate again non sponsored paid for the stove, but I really appreciated it Home Deepot's customer service. And they came back and they hauled the other one away and they brought it and they sent us in a staller. So that was all, Oh no, they didn't I take that back. We had it the handyman. I forgot the handyman did it. But anyway, so it's all in. So the point was I could not have Chef by the fabulous Chef Bay come over to my house with the wonky stove that you have to light with the lighter. It's already a wonky kitchen. It's like, I mean, this house was built in nineteen forty two, so.
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Speaker 4: You were examining every nook and cranny and corner of your kitchen just to make it presentable to the chef back.
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Speaker 1: I had to give that desire up because there was no way. It's a disaster. This kitchen just needs to be taken apart.
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Speaker 3: You had to release control, as oh I did.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I released control when we decided we were going to you know, stay there for a few months. So you know, all the cabinets in there are wood, so you can't see them right. You could see in some of them. Some of them have glass, but most of them are just wood. And I had my organizer just put labels on the outside of every drawer, every everything, because I didn't want to have to open everything. I go just lay, I don't care. Wow. Yeah, it's really it's really hideous, it's really old, it's really wonky, and it's hilarious. But whatever, it's clean.
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Speaker 3: Though.
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Speaker 2: Do you normally have flight glass cabinet doors or were you just doing that because it's a new house and you don't know where everything is yet.
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Speaker 1: It's a new place, and I didn't know where everything was and I didn't want to figure it out. And it's a very odd shaped kitchen and it doesn't lay out in a way that would make sense where you would know, Okay, the cutlery is here, the thing is there, the pots and pans. You know, usually you lay things out in a certain way, you put certain things together, cooking things, where this is just like it's a very wonky kitchen. So I just had everything labeled anyway. So Chef Bay came over and we were in the middle of filming some other things and so there was lots of people around and it was kind of a fun day. But Chef Bay came over. She had a soux chef with her and someone else and we had so much fun. It was like the best thing ever. We made this Israeli salad together. If you've been watching my Instagram or TikTok or Brooks Chef Bay Brook we did this is really salad with chicken schnitzel on top, and I was eating it hot and fresh and oh my gosh, it was so good. Resurrected Chef Heather for the occasion, and we donated money for every positive comment that was made on social which was great. So we sent a lot of money to this chef that Brooke knows who's cooking in the Middle East for soldiers, which is really neat. And so we did that and then we made the five hundred dollars grilled cheese. Wow, I saw that.
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Speaker 2: Pretty impressive.
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Speaker 4: Can you go through what was in that grilled cheese?
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Speaker 3: You know what?
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Speaker 1: Go over to Brooks, TikTok, she or Instagram she's got the whole thing there. But she makes the most beautiful bread and it's got rechy, I don't know, it's got all this crazy ingredients and it's gluten free, but it's you know, gluten free bread is usually gross and dense and weird. This was like an angel bread. It was the fluffiest, loveliest bread. And then what she does is she makes her own vegan mozzarella and vegan cheddar wow, and puts it in this beautiful bread, and then puts vegan butter on the outside from Miacos, Mikonos, one of those, and then she fries it in a pan and the bread becomes like brioche, Wow, crispy and buttery. W five hundred dollars probably five thousand calories worth, every penny and every calorie. Man, it was delicious. Now, the actual grilled cheese is not five hundred dollars, but it's like all the ingredients bought together, I.
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Speaker 4: Could buy you a lot of grilled cheese.
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Speaker 1: It could buy you a lot of grilled cheeses.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just out of care. Were you using your caraway gear?
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we were using Carroway, which we are sponsored by so I will tell you that. But we did use our Caraway pants. Those are so good.
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Speaker 3: I know we love them.
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Speaker 1: Here, let's talk with other bro all getting aside. I mean, I don't have, you know, an ad to do for them, but I'm just telling you I use their pants. Caraway's awesome. You really like you don't need as much butter, but on this dish you want the butter. You need the butter. The butter's your friend. Wow, It's really good anyway, So thanks Caraway for helping me and Jeff Bay and then so we made the grilled cheese and then she made dinner for us. But I was filming these other things in the other room, and so I was back and forth and back and forth, and we just hung out all day and it was really lovely. My assistant was there, and Julia are our friend, friend of let's talk. Julia Broom, social media expert, was there hanging out, and a couple of kids were home, and so we invited Brooke and her soux chef to come sit and have dinner. So we all she made us dinner and we all sat and had dinner together.
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Speaker 3: It was super fun.
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Speaker 4: I particularly liked the one video where she overdubbed your voice and you came up to her like presenting the no, that's not this one right now.
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Speaker 3: Go away?
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Speaker 1: Oh right, please leave the Heather and Shannon face off. Yeah, that was very funny. She was great.
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Speaker 3: She is.
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Speaker 1: First of all, she's a brilliant chef. Her food is so good. Love her personality. She's such a sweet, nice, smart girl. She's really really awesome.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, well, looking forward to having her here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, you're gonna love her. She's really fantastic. And it was just so fun. And you know, I keep talking about connection. You know, I met Patrick. We'll talk about it, but I met him at the Hot Pot restaurant with Ace, And you know, just meeting people either on Instagram or out in the world and actually trading a number and actually getting together is so rare. It's usually drunk plans and you go, oh, why do I do that? I don't feel like that right now. Right now, I'm in a very open period of time of meeting or reconnecting with people and spending time with them. And I'm you know, having dinner with people tomorrow night and at lunch next week whatever that I'm just very much looking forward to, which isn't usually like usually I make a plan and I go, oh, do I have to go? Oh?
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Speaker 2: I do that all the time.
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Speaker 1: I think most of us do.
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Speaker 2: When you when you get into the phase of like really wanting to meet people, you're because you just need that like connection rejuvenation in your life, because it's just you need it.
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Speaker 1: You do need it. And I think what I like about it for me right now is that it's sort of you know, holiday season adjacent, and so we're I like that it's happening now, not in the middle of the holiday season where it feels like there's too many things and too many parties or too many lunches or whatever it is. I have no idea what the what the season is going to look like. I have We have very few plans right now. We're not traveling, and you know, the kids are coming home for Thanksgiving and Hanukah and Christmas, but ye know we're staying home. I don't know we're doing.
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Speaker 4: You have three different houses that you have to hand out candy for Halloween at.
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Speaker 1: Now I think they only come to one of them.
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Speaker 4: Oh, well, time to go to the other two.
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Speaker 1: Well, one of them is not really possible, and the other one. Yeah, the other two are a little hard to get to get up to it. Yeah, they will have earned the candy, that's for sure. Yeah. So that's what's going on with me. Oh in my hip. Yeah, so I think I've told everyone, but I've been having these hip problems. So like a year ago I had a cortizone injection and one hip, and then six months ago I did both. It was this outfelt. I was driving all the time, I was in carpool and I would get out of the car. I mean I was in the car sometimes driving for two and a half hours at a clip. And because by the time I left my house, got there, picked them up, drove them to the this, you know, dropped them off there, drove home, picked up that, went back, pick up from baseball, whatever it is, You're in the car for hours. I had so many parents do this as is not you know, special for me. But I would get out of the car and limp. It was so painful, and they told me to start leaning my chair back and don't sit up so straight. I'm like, oh my gosh, really, And yeah, a few weeks ago it just got worse and worse and worse, and I kept honestly working out running, but like not aggressively. You know. I didn't do anything terrible. There was no event, but it just got bad. And last week I couldn't walk like I thought I was gonna have to get a cane. I had to lean on things. It was so painful. I got another injection. It helped ish. And then yesterday I got an MRI and it was They called it an arthogram with an MRI, which might be diagnostic sometimes, but this wasn't they do an orthogram. It's it's like this. It's almost like an X ray. I guess. It's like this big machine and they put it over you and you can they can see inside so they know where to put the needle and they literally inject the dye directly into your hip. I'm gonna tell you something that was painful. Yeah, they put light a cain. I don't care.
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Speaker 4: Pain fall among all the physical pain you've ever had in your life.
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Speaker 1: Where does that ring? It was high? It was really painful.
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Speaker 2: Did it hit your bone?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I started I had my arms crossed across my chest and I started like hitting myself like this, like one hand against the other, just to you know, distract myself because it was so painful. But I didn't want to move because I didn't want them to have to do it twice. Oh yeah, So they put the die in and then I hung out for a few minutes, and then they took me in another room and they did the amur.
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Speaker 2: I saw a video of all these nurses doing trying to inject a needle into a balloon, and they're true, really is like a talent for nurses that can put a needle in, because that's how Sometimes it hurts and sometimes it doesn't hurt.
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Speaker 1: The this was the radiologist. Oh yeah, maybe they're not as I have no idea. I'm just telling you. This thing was painful and then it felt so weird afterwards, and then I was snack mom. So I went from there to Ace's flag football game with the pizzas and the doughnuts and the waters and thanks Mom. He was very appreciative, I have to say. But yeah, so now I'm just I'm waiting. I'm like literally looking at my phone right now, waiting if any of my results are in.
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Speaker 4: Not yet, you do a lot, Heather, in case no one ever.
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Speaker 1: Says thanks, Oh, I do as much as every other parent out there. We all do a lot. I'm not special, but I appreciate you saying that. I am, no, but I really I am very excited about the guests that we've coming up through the end of the year. It's really great and love to hear from everyone out there, all of you who you've enjoyed. You know what I think would be fun? I wonder if we should put together a list of all the guests we've had on the show in twenty twenty three. Yeah, and here, like who people's top few guests were and why. I would really love to know that, especially since or maybe just since we like sort of rebranded the show. When did that happen? July March, March beginning, jewelry March. Yeah, June March summer. Do not like that idea?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, good, we're doing it. Yeah, let's do it cool. Let's let's see what people are thinking, because I have to say the comments that I get on social are really great. The comments that that I get from all of you. It used to be, oh, I love listening to you, like more generic ones. Now they're very specific, which I love talking about a specific something that some one of my guests said or that I said, or I love that that makes me so happy I'm doing these I'm starting these lunches. I I think did talk about this with one of the guests, one of them, very very briefly.
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Speaker 2: You've mentioned it a while ago, you were thinking about it.
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Speaker 1: So I mentioned a while ago that I'm starting these lunches. And I just wrote a list of about fifty women that I have been in touch with had on my podcast. We're Instagram friends, people that have touched me in some way or that I you know, haven't seen in a while, like that kind of thing, but people with something to say. And I randomly just picked ten of them, nine of them, ten including me, and I'm having lunch. And I'm just going to keep picking random tens and putting lunches together because I am really wanting connection right now. And I don't know if anyone else is feeling that way, but I am and connection with people I want to. You know, sometimes you don't have time for people right because we're all you have a job, you have a partner, you have children, you have daily life. You can't get together and have lunches and dinners and coffees with so many different people, so you tend to just stick with your core. But before we get into the craziness of holiday season and all that, I'm very excited to connect with these women that i haven't been able connect with, and now I'm in La more I have the opportunity to do it. So I'm doing the first of those lunches this week and I'm so excited about it. But it's so funny. Some of them, you know, we're texting me like, well, what's the purpose? You know? Are you know? Are you selling condos? Is it you know? Are we filming it? Are you? And I was like, no, no, no, I just I want to have lunch and some of you will know each other and some of you won't, and hopefully you'll leave with a smile, a new friend, a connection, or maybe just like a pearl of wisdom you know that you got from one of the other gals that that's my intention, and so I'm so excited to do it. So if that reson I'll tell I'll let you know how it went. But if that resonates with you at all, you guys should do it too. It It doesn't have to be ten people, could be three, could be whatever you want it to be. Anyway, Patrick Star with three RS is on today three times the fabulous, So so so excited to have him here. And don't forget to keep checking my website Heatherdebo dot com. We're about to update it. You'll find every link and every everything. Plus we're gonna put all of the former newsletters on there for all of you that have been asking for those. All right, thank you guys so much. Day tuned. Patrick Stars up next. I'm very excited for my guest today. He's such an icon. We met perchance, I'll tell you the whole story. He's a makeup artist, he's a YouTube where he is a fierce Filipino ceo. Makeup is a one size fits all. Please welcome Patrick Star. Hello.
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Speaker 3: This is so unreal to me, real to me too, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: So we have to tell the story about how we met. Yes, from auspicious beginnings became our friendship.
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Speaker 3: It was at the hotpot, Yes, at Heidi Lao, a century city. It's this It's this Asian place where there's a pot in the middle of the table and you just go to this buffet and you get all your accoutrements and yes, and your sauce you throw them in the thing. And I had sat down at the booth across and you were facing me. And I went there with my girlfriend and I was like, that's Heather du Bro over there.
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Speaker 1: Well, you were with two people.
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Speaker 3: Oh I think it was. Yeah, it was with my brother and my other friend.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but are they on TikTok?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Yes, because this is what happened. My son A went and he recognized them, and I said I didn't know them, and I was like, oh, and I looked over and I saw you and I went.
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Speaker 3: No, that's Patrick's star.
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Speaker 1: Of course.
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Speaker 3: On my way out, I was like, let me say hi.
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Speaker 1: I was excited.
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so crazy like once upon a hot pot.
00:24:10
Speaker 1: But isn't that so fun? I have to say, in the last two years between the podcast, being in La again a lot and all that, I have met such amazing people and I really just love how we end up being friends friends. Like I was just telling you before we came on, I was at a gala on Saturday and incredible people there that I'd never met before, actors, actresses, personalities, whatever, you know. I've got dinner plans with one lunch plans. I just love that. So we're gonna have to have a date, yes, an actual not at Heidi Lou somewhere else, somewhere else, somewhere else. But I'm really thrilled.
00:24:48
Speaker 3: You're here, so honored to be here. Thank you.
00:24:50
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go back to the beginning, because I have to say, like I've always been very struck by your story, by where you came from. As you know, I'm a mom of four kids or all different genders and different sexualities, and my kids are sort of lucky enough to grow up in a place with parents that support and can give them the community that they need. But that wasn't entirely true when you were where you were living.
00:25:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up in Orlando, Florida. I was born in New York and then I grew up in Orlando, Florida. And my parents we came from a two bedroom apartment in New York City and then we moved to Orlando with five acres and that was where the money went. And then they we could afford internet, cable anything else. So it was just like my imagination and I would watch whatever was on the four channels, like pageants or the makeover shows, and in that era of the two thousands, and I think growing up as a Disney kid, I loved the idea of transformation and princesses and what you what could be of your life, and so I adopted that transformation like idea and fantasy and they wanted it for me. And having immigrant parents that became citizens, you know, we're going to play by the rules here and you're going to grow up and you're going to go to college, and we have everything set for you. We save money for your prepaid college and this is this is your path, right what you're going to do.
00:26:27
Speaker 1: So how does that go over when you're like, hey, listen, new plan.
00:26:32
Speaker 3: It's it's kind of like a It was like a little secret at first, you know, like being gay was like a little secret. Like wanting to do makeup was like a little secret. Because I studied classical piano when I was very young, and I loved like America's Next Top Model, and I loved like pageants and I loved like these makeover shows. And I was like, Okay, there's something that I want to be a I want to be a part of that Hollywood fantasy like doing makeup, being on set. So I did photography and I was teaching piano at the same time when I was sixteen years old, and just to make a little bit of money. And then I think, you know, doing photography and also teaching piano, it kind of foreshadowed my skill set to be a influencer, entrepreneur, makeup artists because then I took an instrument and I was able to teach instrument, but makeup was my instrument then. And so I had my parents, you know, they had no idea that I was doing this behind their back. I was like pretending to do like little photo shooes like cousin campaign.
00:27:33
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I mean, like, of all the things parents worry about their children doing, you were doing the most beautiful thing ever.
00:27:41
Speaker 3: I think it was also like the judgment of what it is to be gay or a minority.
00:27:45
Speaker 1: And then how were the kids at school at that time?
00:27:49
Speaker 3: Horrible? Horrible, like like there was bullies, But I hid away in the arts side of the school, like I was in marching band, I was in choir, I was in drama, and and then I think being in that department, people were like, oh, I need headshots or I need a piano accompanist. So I was living in that kind of section of the school and being safe there. And then I think being in a program with like band kind of taught me to be a community person, kind of taught me to listen really really well, because in music you have to listen to everybody else. You listen to the other instruments to make one whole song.
00:28:25
Speaker 1: It's a group of ever.
00:28:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:28:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, And how were your parents when you eventually came out to them?
00:28:31
Speaker 3: It was hard. I'm one of three Patrick Peter Paul.
00:28:35
Speaker 1: We're all we're all peas on purpose. Yes, Catholic Saints love Patrick Sant Peter Paul.
00:28:43
Speaker 3: So we grew up in the church, and yeah, it was it was a little bit hard. They didn't know how to deal with it. But I think being the oldest of three, I wanted to prove to them that I was doing this the right way. I was doing it with a conscious I wasn't doing it just to be brash or just to you know, irrationally. I really had like a business plan, you know, along the way.
00:29:09
Speaker 1: So when did you decide to get a job at MAC.
00:29:12
Speaker 3: I got a job at MAC. I was working at Panera, and I remember I was freelancing in my little Koboodo kid and I was like, Okay, I want to do weddings, but I only have cover Girl in Maybolene. But I need something like Fancier so my clients can have like this feel good that I'm using high quality product, and I think Mac is that brand. So I would go into Mac and like I would buy one thing and then add it to my kit, and then every time I would go back, I would like befriend a makeup artist there and say, hey, are you guys hiring here? I would love to learn more because I don't have any formal training, and so they said, yeah, you can get a part time position. So that was like around twenty twelve where I learned how to sell makeup and how to do makeup through there. But it wasn't my first week that I was asked to remove my makeup there because it was too flamboyant. It was the southeast. It's Florida to South, like this glam boy version should be for another location because we're much more conservative in this location of Florida.
00:30:10
Speaker 1: So how does that make you feel?
00:30:12
Speaker 3: Oh? It was? It was so it was so it was so bad.
00:30:17
Speaker 1: You're like, this is supposed to be my place.
00:30:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was the time, but I learned how to be professional. I just you know, water uffa ducts back. And then it foreshadowed my career because then three years later Mack had asked me, because of my following and how much I was selling, to have this crazy licensing deal where I was to create five collections with Mac Cosmetics internationally, following Mariah Carey twenty sixteen Mariah Carey, and then twenty seventeen was Patrick Starr, twenty eighteen was Patrick Star. So really really cool adversity in all in one, all right, But.
00:30:55
Speaker 1: Explain to people because I know there's a lot of you know, people out there that would want to do what you do. Not that everyone can do what you do, but how does a starting off make up? Because I have some celebrity makeup friends who will tell me like they had to really fight with their parents. They did not think this was a viable gig and didn't really understand that there is this is this is a real job. This is what's the word I'm looking for. It's a direction, it's a career.
00:31:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a coat is it is a career, you know, it's being freelanced. You have to just you have to go for it. But don't forget where you come from, because there are themes in my past that helped me validate my next move. Being a piano teacher of like five or six students, I said, hey, that's crazy. These kids are learning from me at seventeen years old. So what is the theme in that lesson me as a teacher? These kids are feeling so fulfilled playing the song by a composer that's no longer alive, and they're putting their own twist on it. So that validated me to be a good teacher. And then I loved art, and so you know, I worked at Panera too, and I remember listening to customers saying I need look right above my head and look at the menu and say I need a sandwich or I want And I listened to how people would talk about what they need and what they wanted. So being a good listener made me a great makeup artist. Being a good teacher made me a great makeup artist because what happens over time is trust and respect. That's like the secret formula to having people believe in you. Trust and respect happens through time. So I think over time by telling my parents like hey, I like this, I like this, they may not believe in it. I had to earn their trust and I had to earn their respect. And now that I have a company, I have a business. I've amassed millions of views online. It's taken ten years of being Patrick Starr to have trust and respect from millions of people to put money into something that I promote or something that I create. And that's something that is a very hard thing to grasp because time is fixed. And so I think I just had to tell my parents, like, trust me and believe in me. I'm not here to hurt you. You're not here to hurt me. My makeup comes off at the end of the day. Makeup is a one size fits all.
00:33:26
Speaker 1: How are they about it now?
00:33:27
Speaker 3: They must they're like huge fans. Yeah, I flew them out last night, so they're here. So I'm being honored tonight at city Hall for being a trailblazer in the arts or for Filipino Americans in the state of color Fortia.
00:33:40
Speaker 1: That is so fantastic, you know, by the way I was just I was telling you I just got my hair colored with flow Yes. Yes, and he loves you and he wanted me to say high, he's fantastic.
00:33:50
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember being in Las Vegas with him and he had Justin Bieber's dreadlocks in a zip block.
00:33:56
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:56
Speaker 3: Well, and I was like, what is this because you cut his hair?
00:34:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, fabulous, amazing.
00:34:02
Speaker 3: That always comes to mind when I hear that.
00:34:05
Speaker 1: I just love him, you know, And so one of the things that I find incredible about you. You know, I followed you for years. I love what you do. You're obviously very, very talented. But you know what residents with me the most is that any time I bring your name up to someone that knows you or has met you always says the same thing. Oh he's lovely, Oh thank you, she's so nice, he's so kind. And I love that because you know, you have created this beautiful community and everyone looks up to you, and I hate hearing stories about people that aren't that way.
00:34:38
Speaker 3: It's it's a heart it's really really hard. And I think being an influencer versus being a celebrity, we control our own narrative and we're responsible for our entire career. Even if you do have a manager, even if you have relationships that go sour like it's it's all up to you. And I think that's where the world of entertainment is pivoting from being on shows, you know, beyond shows, and having someone else control it or have it produced like you have that. And I'm seeing publications and different types of media like turn to the digital platform because you can control the narrative, you can control your engagement. And I realized how lucky we are, how lucky I am as an influencer to have this control of what I want to say.
00:35:22
Speaker 1: Yeah for me, which is great, but it's also it's a little bit of a double edged sword for some people. I was just on the phone with a girlfriend of mine who's got a big TikTok following, and she's on the precipice of how to take it to the next level, and so I was talking to her and I was like, well, here's the thing I think, when you're an influencer, tell me if you agree. I don't know, might be talking out of turn. I said, if you're an actor or you're a musician, you can reinvent yourself. Madonna's had, you know, twelve personalities, looks, you know, voices, whatever. I mean, She's amazing, but she's really good at the reinvent. I said, I think when you're an influencer and you have found a niche that is working for you, you really have one shot to take that to the next level. Do you agree with that or not agree with that?
00:36:08
Speaker 3: There's different ways to I think diversify how you want to be perceived. And so, for example, in my early career, I was an influencer self first person application type of makeup artists. I was doing makeup on myself and I said, okay, how can I have more people trust me? They're just going to see, oh, he's gay. He probably does drag queen type of makeup. And I said, let me do makeup on my mom, or let me do makeup on me.
00:36:32
Speaker 1: By the way, your mom is the cutest thing. We'll talk about it.
00:36:35
Speaker 3: Thank you. So I was doing makeup on different types of people and I started winning over that type of demographic like Latina's or my black girls or white girls like I diversified that and it wasn't until Kiky Palmer had asked me to do her makeup. I was like, I have a fears black celebrity, and then that led to more celebrities, and I have the most beautiful celebrities in the history of YouTube. From Katie Perry, Kim Kardashi and Chris Jenner, par Hilton and Yomi Campbell, Tyra Banks, Raven Simone, Naliza Vanderpool, Ashley Tisdale, Mattie Ziegler. It's crazy. I just think when Stefani last week.
00:37:08
Speaker 1: Did you do it for the star? No?
00:37:10
Speaker 3: No, no, I didn't, but we film the video. It's out on my channel. But it's cool just to see these different types of beauties help pivot my career by diversifying my one medium and that turned into more opportunities for me, and by also positioning my voice as a host as or in skits, people started trusting me and say, hey, he could probably be funny, he could be a cameo in this show, or he could he's well spoken, he could be we could do pr with him. And I'm on Drew Brarymore or I'm presenting Drew Braymore an award, you know. So it's kind of like that thing where where it's so beautiful to be online, but to control your voice and organize how you want to diversify is really important and in a matter of time, people other people, other institutions will trust and respet back to you to participate in their institution.
00:38:03
Speaker 1: So what was your first to big? I mean, I want to talk about your podcast that you started in the pandemic. Are you going to bring that back?
00:38:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I have time.
00:38:12
Speaker 1: I know your visits, But what was your first medium that you really popped on?
00:38:17
Speaker 3: YouTube? It was YouTube. You were in the YouTube, YouTube, Instagram and that era. And I think now it's a lot harder because there's so much output that's expective expected of the user. But I think, just keep shit simple, you know. So I was posting on Instagram pictures that was the picture only type of app, and then Snapchat was kind of like the story version of Instagram, and then YouTube and YouTube. You can imagine if you think about what YouTube did for so many creators from my era. Your my videos were probably ten to twenty minutes, and I posted once a week on Friday, every Friday at two o'clock, right after kids got out of school. So think about ten twenty minutes times four times twelve. That's a lot of hours a year that they're spending with me, and this past February, I've hit four hundred million views in the life start the lifetime of my channel, And I think about how people on the street or young girls will say, oh.
00:39:15
Speaker 1: My god, you taught me how to do you make up?
00:39:17
Speaker 3: And you did this. I grew up with you, and it's crazy that I've been able to have that type of quality connection versus now TikTok it's like five seconds, six seconds your trend well, I mean.
00:39:26
Speaker 1: You know it's short attention spam theater. Now, do you feel the need to create more now because of like that, because of the tiktoks?
00:39:36
Speaker 3: I feel the need to create quality. Yeah, quality connection, that's what it's about. I think there's a lot of there's like a lot of plans and game plans to have you know, like like output, just to have output and just to feed all these buckets. But when I think about, you know, when The Little Mermaid came out this year, and I remember seeing the wide screen and seeing Little Mermaid in the water and the movies a little over an hour and a half, I'm thinking, Wow, I really got to connect with that character. And I believe that the actress is playing aerial and Prince Eric and I see them and I think about social media. You're on vertical, it's really really short and people just swipe. So how can I penetrate someone's mind and heart to show who I am like Ariel did to me in that amount of time.
00:40:34
Speaker 1: And what's the answer to that.
00:40:36
Speaker 3: I think to prioritize quality connection, no matter how long, no matter how short, whatever the format be, what is going to allow you to connect to your audience and your audience could be your potential consumer. And I think having had worked on it comes from me also being really really insecure, being overweight, Filipino, bald, gay, like all the above, I always strive to be you know, glam and for people to see in me and I was I'm very service oriented. I was a photographer, I taught piano. I have something for you, and I think videos did. That's it's an act of selfish selflessness to provide YouTube and to demystify the celebrity or to demystify what it means to be beautiful. And I could sit on my channel bald and then show how I get really clam and to a degree it inspires people with yes, if your horse or you know, have a skin similar to mine. But like, with all that being said, I think quality connection is really really important.
00:41:38
Speaker 1: Authenticity always sells. I mean, whether it's a reality show or how you show up on your social media, it is authenticity. People will ask me about, you know, being on like Housewives, and I'll say, you know, some girls will come on these shows and be like, oh, I want to be the classy one. I'm the classy one, and then they're vomiting in the bushes all the time. I'm like, honey, you're not the classy one. That's not your is not your lane. You got to pick something else there. But when you show up authentically, I think that's what it really resonates.
00:42:13
Speaker 3: And that's why I have to I have to just say, like, I'm such a fancir of you because you're so fucking shameless with the glam and showing your mom And the thing is, it's like the way you would show off, you know, the home, and but there's something endearing about how you say, but this section is for my kids. This tree is where I'm going to put all the kids arts and crafts. Yeah, but this is where I have my theme. But I always have my tree where they have their macaroni frames, and I'm like, that's so cool because you personify not just the glitz, but you show a little piece of you and your children that's an extension of you. And I'm like, that's fucking cool. That's what the fuck I wish I would have seen on Housewives, but to see you control the narrative outside of the fame from your husband, like you carved your own lane. Yeah, and that resonated with me. She has a gift wrapping in the room, Mike, what the hell.
00:43:05
Speaker 4: Is so cool?
00:43:06
Speaker 1: And well, I am out there fancy. I mean, I'm not apologizing for that.
00:43:10
Speaker 3: That's that's the cool part about it.
00:43:12
Speaker 1: Thank you.
00:43:12
Speaker 3: I love it. I appreciate that.
00:43:14
Speaker 1: I think when I left the show the first time and took a break and when they asked me to come back. You may have heard this, but when they asked me to come back, you know, we had a family meeting about it and we talked about it, and I'm like, look, you know, we have a very interesting family. Our kids are all really interesting, and wouldn't it be nice to use the platform to start conversations in other people's families? Because I was telling you, I co shared this gala with my high school friend who's gay, and he was telling me, you know, a story about his life, how he felt and he didn't come out till later because of where we lived and the whole thing. And he said, and I didn't see anyone out there that was me, so I had nothing to model. No one was telling me it was okay. So what I try to use my platform for is saying it's all okay, this is all cool, this is all normal, this is all biology, and the whole point of life is to have good relationships with people that are wonderful, your family, your friends, your community. And that's exactly what you do. And what I find so amazing is that you not only you know, were strong enough to go after what she wanted, but you continue to be this icon that other people can see. I mean, I'm telling you when Flow is like, oh my Filipino beer, he was going on, and I'm like you, you are now showing all these other teenagers, these kids, these young adults, that anything is possible.
00:44:46
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it goes back to that Disney mentality. I call it Disney Princess energy.
00:44:52
Speaker 1: Speaking of Disney Princess, Oh my gosh, snow White.
00:44:56
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:44:57
Speaker 1: So wait, so it's Disney's hundredth anniversary. Yes, and so what was the event.
00:45:01
Speaker 3: I went to this royal ball at the Walt Disney Studios in Burbank, and how was that? It was fabulous. We're in like Walt Disney's office. They show all their archives and I dressed up as snow White. But it's funny. I had that costume made like six years ago from Heidi Kloon's Halloween party and I still had it, and I was like, I think it's appropriate to have it for Disney. So yes, yeah, that's where I had. I loved dressing up. I loved dressing up.
00:45:28
Speaker 1: So what's Halloween.
00:45:29
Speaker 3: It's a big deal Halloween transformation. I just did squid Word Human squid Word. I did Alvin and the Chipmunks prosthetics with my brothers. And it's crazy what social media can do, because let me tell you, when I did these Disney transformations, and I was doing the red carpet for all these movie premieres and I'm just this invited, not as an actor, not as a guest or I mean anything in the movie, but a simple guest to help promote the movie. One of the licensed. Disney executives came up to me and said, we should do a one size Disney collection with you. And I'm like, are you sure, Like, is me being gay appropriate for Disney? And they said, no, we'd love to create it. Oh, you must section with one size. So I did it last year. And they said, if you can choose any Disney animated character in our in our entire archives, who would you pick?
00:46:21
Speaker 1: And I said, like to transform, no.
00:46:23
Speaker 3: To feature in a collection? Yeah, you did collection, And I said, I'm going to go for Mickey Mouse. I know it's probably a little bit of a reach, but they said, let's talk to the team and they licensed Mickey Mouse spantasias to me, and I created a whole in time.
00:46:39
Speaker 1: I have to go take a dive on that.
00:46:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll sign it to you.
00:46:42
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. We just went. We were at Disney a couple of weeks ago. We got invited to twenty one Royal.
00:46:48
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
00:46:49
Speaker 1: Oh I haven't okay, let me tell you. So it was like it was the craziest night, but briefly like I've never been to Club thirty three. I worked at Disney. Oh my god, I sang at the Golden Horseshoe Jamboree. I was Miss Lily at Big Blonde Wig and by the way, blonde not good on me. But it was really it was fun. It was like a year my first year that I lived in California, and it was cool. And then so we went we got invited to this thing and there's six couples and you go kind of through the backstage and they bring you there and I guess it was an apartment that Walt Disney had designed for himself. And so you go there and there's buttons everywhere, Magical things happen, and they serve the most beautiful wines and champagnes. Food was gorgeous, private chefs just for this venue. And then you watch you go out on the balcony and you watch the fireworks. It was phenomenal.
00:47:48
Speaker 3: I have a very fond memory in that location, in Walt Disney's apartment on the Disneyland property. I was invited in twenty fifteen with Instagram, the actual egg executives and founders and product developers of Instagram, with a bunch of other influencers, and this I've never told the story, but they said, hey, what do you think of the app Instagram, how could we be better? And this is when Instagram just introduced video capability. So it was those fifteen second videos. And I remember because I was taking my YouTube videos and turning them into fifteen second viral clips. They went really, really viral in twenty sixteen, and I remember getting a lot of you know, because they hit the explore page and it just you know, catapulted in the stratosphere of everywhere. But with a lot of views could come a lot of like questionable hate emojis. There was like gun emojis, like monster emojis, and a lot of a lot of negativity. And so Instagram asked me in that apartment, they said, what could we do. I said, well, your competitor YouTube were able to filter comments, you know, of works that are inappropriate. And this is my domain. So I think of it like my home. And if I in my people to my home, take your shoes off and leave your shit at the door. Yes, and so the like a month later, because I told the product developers and executives, they implement it. Filtering words on the app in twenty sixteen. From that Walt Disney apartment.
00:49:19
Speaker 1: That is amazing. It's because of you. Well, thank you for that, because I remember being on Instagram, and you know, housewife fans can be brutal man. And it's your domain, it's your space, it's your account. Oh yeah, I remember going in there. I was like, let me see what word bitch, counflut, horror, hate, snake emoji, right, yeah, all of those things. Yeah, But I think the hardest thing I mean right now, well, two things. First of all, as we're talking about authenticity, sometimes I think people make their content so precious then they worry about what it is so much it loses it right. And then I also think people try to create a vibe that isn't really their vibe and that doesn't sell either. The problem that I feel like many influencers are having right now. I don't call myself an answer, but me included. I mean, I don't have any following like yours, but it's my little following. I worry with everything that's going on in the world is horrifying. I'm Jewish, and there's many emotions that are involved in all of this, not just for Jewish people but just for humans. And on both sides of this. You know, it's we're still talking about children and civilians, and I've posted about it, and you know, my dear friend Chef Bey came over the other day and we did a little collab together to try to raise money for the kids for feeding kids in the Middle East. But it's walking the line of not living in it every day. And how do you balance all of it? Because are you getting hate when you post something that's not about what's going on?
00:51:07
Speaker 3: You know, it depends. I think it depends on who you are and what your actual a genre is and then if you were to tap into because because I'm in the beauty genre right, I'm in beauty, I'm in transformation, I'm in you know, the beauty cosmetic space. And so I think before talking about it, you have to make the most conscious decision, and I think people people respect it. I mean, of course people will comment or send dms, but I think because we ultimately hold the control and it is our platform or our soapbox, we have to do everything in our responsibility to have the most make the most conscious decision. That involves getting the correct information, making sure you say the right thing, yes, making sure that it is appropriate for anyone that's to read it, because this is a public, you know, and so's that's the hard part too. It's like, how do you also make sure that you're in your well being if you're to step into this, because once you put it out there, it's your responsibility it totally have to stand by it.
00:52:16
Speaker 1: So there is a bunch of celebrities that have been really like strong activists out there in a really beautiful way and basically saying, you know, so many people are scared to post anything because they're scared of the backlash of it. I think the message that I just want to put out there is that we're all doing the best we can and a lot of us are also here to try and our job is entertainment, and so what we do is try to take you away from it for a few minutes.
00:52:46
Speaker 3: Also too, I think everyone listening out there too. You have to understand it's yet in our fingertips, but who knows what you may not be seen behind the scenes that we could be doing that is just as effective, if not more, by actually taking action. Yes, and so is even if we do film it, like does it look you know, performative.
00:53:11
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the problem. You know, people will say to me, like we sold our house for a lot of money, and they'll be like, well, how much of you are you giving to charity. It's like if I told people what I gave, then I would be bragging. And what is it like charity whispers?
00:53:26
Speaker 3: Yes, performative.
00:53:27
Speaker 1: But then if you don't say anything, then you probably don't and you're a genable person. You really can't win in those arenas. Tell me about your mom. She's so cute and I love that you include her.
00:53:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's well. When I moved to La, I wanted to make sure that my mom felt like like a part of, you know, my life, and so I put her on social media. And I think because a lot of people don't have families that support them because of their sexual identity or sexual orientation, it was important to show that my mom accepts me. And I told her, I was like, you have the world also watching you too, and there's a lot of Filipinos that probably don't support their children, and do you want to be that example?
00:54:11
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, that makes me cry and so.
00:54:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I see a lot of them parents come to me and say, oh my god, I'm Filipino too. You make us so proud and blah, blah blah. And then I see their children like fangirl and I'm like, you know, make sure you support them and I remind them to that.
00:54:27
Speaker 1: But you're doing that.
00:54:28
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm trying my best.
00:54:30
Speaker 1: You're doing great.
00:54:31
Speaker 3: Thank you.
00:54:32
Speaker 1: We're going to play a game.
00:54:33
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:54:33
Speaker 1: If it's not good, at Steve's fault, okay, because I have not pre looked at this. Okay, but wait, I did my makeup very fast this morning, and then I had my hair colored. Judge, you look beautiful.
00:54:45
Speaker 3: You look exactly studying and gorgeous and way that I want you to do my makeup.
00:54:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, gam can we do that? I love it. By the way, my son, as he wanted me to ask you, he's like, can you please ask Patrick? He was, I love his turban? He goes, does he do it to give himself extra height?
00:55:04
Speaker 3: Yes?
00:55:05
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly. That's a good question.
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Speaker 3: Really yeah, I'm like five six, I'm like two fifty, and I'm like, could I be like five nine, like two fifty?
00:55:16
Speaker 1: Well if he starts walking around with a turban? Now, well now he sat My husband wear's lifts in his shoes, like you know. One day he said to me, we have a friend who makes men's clothes, and he was telling us, I can't tell you, like, you got this famous celebrity who's not all that tall and wears these shoes that have these everet everyone does it. Oh my gosh. And so finally this was like, I don't know, it's could have been fifteen years ago. I said to Terry, I'm like, just get the fucking shot. So I bought him twenty pairs of the shoes, and I was like, here you go, dear, there's sneakers. There's oh he loves it, queen, why can't we he loves it? Or here we go?
00:55:52
Speaker 3: This is just rapid fire opinions and advice is.
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Speaker 1: The goal from our straight, non makeup wearing friends. Carry go Mary, kill Bronzer Primer concealer.
00:56:03
Speaker 3: Oh Bronzer. I would. I could kill Bronzer, Mary Primer and kill what was the other one?
00:56:11
Speaker 1: Fuck Mary and kill fuck what was the other product? Oh Bronzer Primer, concealer, concealer.
00:56:18
Speaker 3: I would.
00:56:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would conceal it too, but I might marry concealer is the thing I might Bronzer. I think I would kill Primer. I have said, all right, So years ago when Clayton Poe first became like a thing. They had a primer and every time you took a photo, your face would look white. It was very it was like pink. Do you know what I'm talking about. I don't know if they've changed the formulation. Doyn't never send me anything now. I'm just telling you didn't like that. Turn me off of primers. Yes, so we may need to talk about primers all right. Rank these from the most overrated to the most underrated. Highlighting, contouring, bronzing.
00:56:58
Speaker 3: Think overrated to underrated. Yeah, I feel like, like.
00:57:04
Speaker 1: What's the most important thing? Highlighting, conjouring or.
00:57:08
Speaker 3: Really the most important? Okay, conjouring can be like last, and then highlighting is in the middle. In the middle. Yeah.
00:57:17
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at your lips and they look fabulous and they're overdrawn, but you have a beautiful bo. You have a beautiful cup.
00:57:25
Speaker 3: It's bo.
00:57:25
Speaker 1: People always try to color mine in. But I had a makeup artist once draw a lip on me that was so hot. It was like literally and I have a short nose, Like it was so high and I I didn't have glasses on it. I couldn't say. I'm like, oh, looks great, whatever, And I walked away, and I went into the bathroom, and I wish I had taken a photo. I started laughing. But that is a big trend, the very very overdrawn lips.
00:57:50
Speaker 3: Not like what you have, like the big I feel like minor Hella overdrawn girl.
00:57:54
Speaker 1: Not really, your line is right above your natural living by. I don't know all right. What is the best way to deal with clumpy eyelashes?
00:58:03
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, clumpy eyelashes with mascara? I think like getting a better mascara. Yeah, you know what having a lash comb is so so so.
00:58:14
Speaker 1: I haven't had one in years.
00:58:15
Speaker 3: I need to get one. A lash comb. Yes, there's a spoollion one in and there's a lash like metal comb like suicide or there's a yes, yes, changes the game.
00:58:24
Speaker 1: That's good. Let me ask you this your beauty blender. What do you use? You like phone me for you like phone? You like brushes?
00:58:34
Speaker 3: What do you use a little bit of both?
00:58:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not good with the brushes with the foundation.
00:58:40
Speaker 3: Well, uh, yeah, you like the sponge.
00:58:43
Speaker 1: I like the sponge. Sponge I'll use I think the sponge was a good game changer. Yes, and I use my fingers.
00:58:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fingers are great too.
00:58:51
Speaker 1: I like my fingers all right. So what are the top products we all need in our makeup bag?
00:58:57
Speaker 3: M top makeup products I have, you know, held the number one and number two spot in the setting powder in Sepphorth called the Ultimate setting powder translucent. Everyone is wearing it.
00:59:11
Speaker 1: Steve wants to buy it first, girlfriend, Yeah, who's asking about it?
00:59:15
Speaker 3: Our translation setting powder and our our pink setting powder is really really good to ultra pink. It's blurring, it's it makes your skins so smooth. So I see a lot of people that are sweaty or that want their.
00:59:27
Speaker 1: Makeup to stay. It's a beautiful.
00:59:29
Speaker 3: Formula and it's by one size Beauty.
00:59:31
Speaker 1: So my thing with my I was just going to ask something about that. That just took me out of my thing. What was I going to ask about the makeup? It'll come back to me. I have percocet brain right by the way. Tell me about one Size Beauty.
00:59:49
Speaker 3: One Size Beauty is a brand I started in twenty twenty and it's a huge brand on social media and it comes from my mantra that makeup is a one size fits all. So we are here to give permission to love yourself through makeup. And I started this because, you know, it was a love letter to my younger self. And I hope other people can see that they too can participate in feeling beautiful and be okay with that with no one else's permission but their own.
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Speaker 1: And I love that. I remember my question, this is what I'm asking because we're talking about setting powder. So I love a setting powder and I love so do you when you use the spray the face is done, you spray it it dries, Do you go back over with a little powder in the t zone or you leave it alone? You know what?
01:00:34
Speaker 3: I use a lot of powder and then I'll spray it to melt all the powder, and then I'll use the Ontil Dawn waterproof setting spray that Beyonce war in the rain?
01:00:44
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Crazy? How did you hear about that?
01:00:46
Speaker 3: Her makeup artist texted me because I'm a licensed esthetician in the last year went to esthetician school, so I.
01:00:52
Speaker 1: Said, hey, can I give you a facial?
01:00:54
Speaker 3: So her makeup artist, Roqueal, came and got a facial for me at my beauty school and I was like, I was like, hey, like, what's up? Like, what are you doing. Of course I know he's doing beyond, Like, oh yeah, we're I'm gonna go on tour. This is before the Renaissance tour. And I was like, hey, I'll give you like any type of you know, makeup, and so I gave him, you know, every single one sized product and I said, this spray is waterproof, by the way, and I showed him a video of me jumping in the pool and showing the tome being white. And then he texted me he said, hey, it rained last night in Washington, d C. And we were two hours late. You know. I made a TikTok about it, and he goes, one size kept her intact and I was like, okay, that's cool. And it was just a personal text. And then on Instagram in his description he goes, thanks to one Size and Patrick Starr got us through the show us meaning you and freaking Beyonce and people were.
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Speaker 1: Like, she was there, she looked amazing, we were in.
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Speaker 3: The rain, oh blah blah. And I was like, okay, now it's public domain and I made a video and.
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Speaker 1: That's so great. Crazy is that amazing?
01:02:04
Speaker 3: Everyone? Everyone? I sent Mariah carry a package. Kelly Rowland. I send a package. Madonna is wearing it on world tour.
01:02:11
Speaker 1: I know, I'm amazing.
01:02:12
Speaker 3: It's Lady Gaga too, So it's really really cool. I'm really honored.
01:02:16
Speaker 1: It's so nice that you're helping all these up and coming young singers. Yeah, I know, right, I know, well, I love it. I adore you. Congratulations on all of your success. We're gonna do glam. Yes, I'm gonna have you come over. You can see Mike Christmas donations. Yes, they're gonna be so Yeah.
01:02:35
Speaker 3: We'll turn you into like missus Sexy Claws. Oh yes, I'm in, except.
01:02:41
Speaker 1: I already have gray. I think I think we're okay. Tell everyone how to find you on social and where to.
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Speaker 3: Get the products. You can find me everywhere at Patrick's Starr with three r's at the end p A C R I c K S t A R R R, and you can check out one Size and Sephora anywhere in North America and also sephoria dot com.
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Speaker 1: Why did you decide to use three rs?
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Speaker 3: Listen? It was available, Yeah, it was available. It just freaking suck. That's what it's been.
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Speaker 1: That's like me and passwords. I just keep tacking on another god damn exclamation, but you use that before one more seventy two exclamation points. Okay, good, Thank you for being here in heaven, thank you so much for being here, and thank you all for listening. Stay tuned for the next episode of Let's Talk.