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00:00:03.577Today, we're breaking down how your 401k allocation actually works,
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00:00:08.377what your options really are, and why set it and forget it isn't always the best strategy.
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00:00:19.217Welcome back to the Best Advice Podcast, guys. I'm your host, Rob DeVallio.
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00:00:22.557Here's always a good truck. We're on roll again, baby. What's up,
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00:00:24.417baby? Are you up to date time off today?
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00:00:27.117I don't. You're up to date time off. You're really working. Oh,
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00:00:28.757we're early. We're early.
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00:00:34.057Yeah, I hear it. Yes. Absolutely. And that's why, you know, we got a long day ahead of us.
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00:00:38.377As you know, you guys all know Trevor Bell, the certified financial planner.
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00:00:50.117Good to see you, my friend. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.
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00:00:54.057You had a good weekend? I did. Yeah, I had a great weekend and I'm excited to,
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00:00:56.197you know, move into the holiday season.
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00:01:02.337Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. It's like we... Time has just gone by way too quickly. I thought things...
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00:01:14.694I have not been great this year to say the least i'm so i want a really good present,
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00:01:21.594that might make up actually a lack of hope right my dad i did college and i
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00:01:27.574reached out his coach but when i would get the studio oh that's awesome get
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00:01:32.434it in my case no kidding i hope i hope he doesn't see this early yeah he won't okay.
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00:01:39.654Well let's get to the question of the day today's question comes from stew from
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00:01:42.334illinois Stu, what you got for us?
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00:01:47.554I'm enrolling in my 401k at work right now, and I'm unsure on what I should
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00:01:56.634Thank you, Stu. Great question. This is like kind of an important stuff that
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00:02:00.614Yeah. It's like so important to like building wealth. Right.
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00:02:02.354How are you allocated your 401k?
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00:02:06.634How do you enroll in all that? Well, in fact, a large percentage of Americans
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00:02:08.614live off their 401k. Yeah.
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00:02:12.334You know, once that time comes into retirement. So it's, it's critical,
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00:02:14.754of course, that you're contributing enough.
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00:02:18.314And we've had other episodes for that, but we're not going to dive too much
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00:02:27.554So, so how does it work? I don't know. Like give me a quick brief work. Yeah. Really?
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00:02:33.894Yeah. So one thing I will say in the 401ks is that every employer is different.
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00:02:48.134allow their employees to invest in.
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00:02:54.967But generally speaking, most 401ks funnel participants in the two main allocation paths, right?
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00:03:00.067You've got your target date retirement series path, or you've got your self-allocated.
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00:03:09.587And in a normal situation, an investor comes to you, you need to spill to that.
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00:03:15.747Exactly. Yeah, it's a customized portfolio. So typically, well,
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00:03:19.627yeah, and actually, I'm starting to dive into that a little bit more.
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00:03:23.427So when you've got the target date retirement series, those are your really
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00:03:25.927one size fits all portfolios.
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00:03:34.727Oh, wow. And yeah, it's crazy.
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00:03:38.147It's a bit of, like, fundamentally, they're all the same thing,
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00:03:44.207Rob, right? So your target date retirement series that are 2070 or 2065,
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00:03:55.747What is the date? Great question. So the date actually means your targeted date of retirement.
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00:03:59.347So let's just say we're 30 years old right now.
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00:04:04.567We expect to retire at 65. We want to pick something 35 years from now.
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00:04:10.927fund we would want to pick.
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00:04:14.667So what if I want to retire and not be in those days again?
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00:04:19.207Of course not. And that's where the lack of customization comes in.
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00:04:26.587Yeah. Because life changes and we don't know exactly what we're going to be doing.
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00:04:31.627And furthermore, what we dove into in former episodes is risk tolerance.
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00:04:38.627You could be 20 years old and not have a AD risk tolerance, which is typically where those.
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00:04:44.735Later target date retirement funds sit at it from a risk standpoint,
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00:04:51.195whereas your 2030s, 2035s, it's closer to retirement, so they're generally more conservative.
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00:04:56.155It depends on the manager.
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00:05:00.555Either way, no matter how we look at it, with the target date retirement series
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00:05:04.495funds, it's really a one-size-fits-all fund.
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00:05:08.515So you're basically, instead of being a number, like your risk tolerance,
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00:05:12.175that's really a portfolio based on that risk tolerance of one to one hundred.
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00:05:14.055Right. Do you have one to a three?
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00:05:19.595That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you suggest if,
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00:05:22.695I guess, for me, right, around 30? Sure.
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00:05:27.755What would you suggest if my two options were to sell if they're five years
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00:05:35.315Well, so it's just a good question, Rob. And I'll answer that by kind of countering it.
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00:05:38.075I'll answer that question. I'm going to be quiet. Yeah, exactly.
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00:05:44.575So that would maybe be enticing for you to go to the self-allocated portfolio.
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00:05:48.115Oh, self-allocated. That's right. Remember how I mentioned earlier,
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00:05:54.215Yes, yes. So you've got your target date retirement series funds that are your one size fits all.
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00:06:01.275mean that you can go buy tesla stock or after stock
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00:06:04.435of your 401k what it means is they typically give
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00:06:09.135you and all employers are different but generally anywhere from 10 to 30 different
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00:06:13.975funds to pick from ranging from anywhere from small to large cap companies both
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00:06:18.675growth and value sector in the fixed income side we could see anywhere from
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00:06:22.215short-term government securities to of long-term corporate securities.
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00:06:27.475And so you can build your own portfolio. Now, there's a limited set of options,
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00:06:31.755as we've said throughout the entire episode, but it still gives you accessibility
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00:06:41.210The pros in that is, you know, could potentially be less expensive from an expense ratio standpoint.
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00:06:49.750see as advantageous and build a portfolio to your risk.
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00:06:54.710But like anything else, there's not automatic rebalancing with that stuff.
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00:06:59.130So you add yourself a job as you're all. That's what I was saying.
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00:07:04.370Yeah. Yeah. And that's exactly it. So now you're the manager that was formerly
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00:07:08.890managing that, you know, institutional management target date retirement fund.
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00:07:11.170You become that individual on it. Wow.
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00:07:16.790That's a lot. Yeah, it is. And that's why you see so many people flowing to
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00:07:21.090the target date retirement series. But it's important for me to educate the
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00:07:28.534Return standpoint, the target day retirement funds are solid funds.
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00:07:33.614I'm not bashing them by any means. They can build wealth for individuals.
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00:07:38.674To that same point, just understand that it's not customizable to you.
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00:07:42.274Correct me if I'm wrong. What I see in our office a lot is that clients will
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00:07:45.894have to get their target day because they don't want to go in there and manage
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00:07:59.874their Medicare, their health care, all these other things they account for. Sure.
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00:08:06.674And they end up rolling over that 401k eventually into that same bespoke custom plan. Yes.
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00:08:12.114That's exactly right. Yeah. So at 59 and a half, and even sometimes as early
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00:08:18.714as 55 and a half, we won't get into the weeds on that stuff in terms of rolling over assets from a 401k.
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00:08:23.074But yeah, what we always see is, you know, hey, let's build the wealth.
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00:08:33.134also either a retirement account or a taxable account with a professional management.
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00:08:40.474longer to retire in your late 60s.
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00:08:44.194Then in that instance, you just roll it into your world over IRA and.
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00:09:02.334Yeah, that's good and interesting stuff because I know other jobs I've had,
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00:09:03.474people are like, oh, what are you doing?
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00:09:05.974I don't know, I picked this. Great, put me in it.
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00:09:11.454And oftentimes, stick in it for years. Yeah, you don't need to talk. Oh, whatever.
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00:09:15.574Right. You're looking to balance every couple of weeks, but you don't really worry about it.
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00:09:20.674But it's... Give me the name and difference between the bank too, again.
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00:09:25.014Sure. Those dollars. Yeah. So you've got target date retirement funds,
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00:09:33.794They've performed well for individuals in the past. They have a professional manager on top of them.
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00:09:47.294That's where you could pick anywhere from small to large gap growth or value
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00:09:58.814So you've got a little bit more flexibility with those self-allocated funds,
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00:10:05.974So that's, I would say simple, you know, 30, 45 second answer.
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00:10:09.614There it is right there. Amazing. Well, thank you, Stu. We hope that helps.
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00:10:12.734You want to talk to any of our financial advisors here at Security Financial
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00:10:25.374It's what you keep. What you keep. Happy days, everybody.
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