War Games Predictions

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Welcome to the Benedash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
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I'm Ben.
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I'm Bash.
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It's time to lace up your boots and hit them out with the Benedash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
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Alright, here we are for another one.
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So we're gonna be doing the predictions as always for Survivor Series War Games.
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You know what it is.
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Uh predictions, what we think's gonna happen, maybe storylines, stuff like that.
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But uh yeah, let's get to it.
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So for the first match I'm gonna before we get started with this real quick, I gotta get one little little thing as I quick.
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So what's the what's the what's the name for um PLEs?
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Um Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, SummerSlam.
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Yep.
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That's four, right?
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Yeah.
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How many has Bandy been on?
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She was on WrestleMania and the Royal Rumble.
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She wasn't there at WrestleMania.
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Yes, she was not at WrestleMania or SummerSlam.
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Yeah, she was?
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No, she wasn't.
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She was at SummerSlam.
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No, she wasn't.
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Not this year's.
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Don't you remember?
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She was in that match.
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Yeah, which one?
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No, that was Lyra.
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Yeah, that was Lyra.
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Against Becky Lynch, yes.
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Bailey was not at WrestleMania.
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Remember, it's a big deal about her being at WrestleMania.
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She wasn't there.
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She had to be in um the Royal Rumble.
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She might have been at the Royal Rumble, but that's it.
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There's 30 women there.
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She has been Royal Rumble.
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There's no choice.
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But she wasn't at WrestleMania.
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She wasn't at SummerSlam.
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And now she's not in Survivor Series as of right now.
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That's three of the four big pay-per-views or peep uh PLEs, and she's not on.
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One of your best, one of your best female wrestlers, and she's not on the card.
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I don't understand that.
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You're also missing a lot of other people who just haven't been booked like.
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No, I get it.
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But I'm saying is a person that's that good in the women's division, you can't find a spot for on any PLE.
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WrestleMania, SummerSlam, and now Survivor Series.
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Because originally like she was gonna be in Survivor Series match, her and Lyra, because Charlotte wasn't in it.
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But then now of a sudden Charlotte comes and AJ Least comes.
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Nothing against them, but it looked like they were leaning toward Lyra and Bailey because Kabuki Wards as Bailey, and she told them no.
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So it looked like they might she might have been joining uh Rhea Ripley team.
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Yeah.
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But now she's not on either team.
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Mm-hmm.
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I I don't get it.
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I mean, I'm not I'm not understanding why she's not getting the respect that other women are getting.
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You know, I mean her, her and Mercedes, which Shaw's bank at the time, they held down the women's division during the COVID era.
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Both of them had they had four belts, the tag team belts, and they both had the world championship belts.
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They held down the COVID era together.
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We see what Mercedes is doing in AEW, an all-around independent wrestler.
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She has like 11 belts?
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Like 13 and 14 now.
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And so, and then Bailey came in on the card of a major PLE.
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Yeah.
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I don't get it.
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I mean, hopefully she don't miss Roy Rumble the way it looks, she'll miss Roy Rumble too.
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Maybe all four.
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I mean, I I'm not I'm not understanding what's going on with it, but sorry, ran over.
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All right, let's get uh let's get to the survivors here's war game.
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Sorry, I have to get off a chest real quick.
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Yeah, it's fine.
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But um, for the first match on the car, it's the women's war games match, and the babyface team is Ray Ripley, Eosky, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair, and AJ Lee versus Maya Jacks, Last Legend, uh, the Kabuki Wars, and Becky Lynch on the Heel team.
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So this is a really stacked match, especially on the babyface side of things.
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I mean, heel side too.
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Yeah.
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I mean, only one only one that's not established is Last Legend.
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It's because she's a uh not a Rookie, but she's a newer, she's a um newerky on the main roster, put it that way.
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But not a Ricky in wrestling.
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I mean, she was she's been wrestling for a few years, but yeah.
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So the rest of them are bona fide veterans.
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All world champions.
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Except except Kari.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, except Kyrie, they're all world champions.
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And on the other side, they're all they all have been world champions.
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Exactly.
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But um, so yeah, um, I'm gonna keep it straightforward.
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I think.
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Wait, who has the advantage?
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They don't they haven't done it yet.
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They can do it on Friday and I smack down.
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So the men did the men did it Monday, and then the women only do it the next one, which would be Friday.
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I think the advantage is gonna go to the heels, but the baby faces are gonna overcome the odds.
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And I'm the heels on uh the men's probably gonna say that later on the already.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Um I I think I think I know where you're gonna go for the main event, but um, I I'm gonna pick the baby face side of things.
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That's what you're gonna pick?
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Yep, re-ripply team.
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See, that's the thing.
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Just like I so we're talking about later on the band side too, but on paper, on paper, the hill side dominates.
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On paper.
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Wait, wait.
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Okay, okay, they break it down.
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But for the women's match?
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For the women's match.
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Yes, the hill side dominates.
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Okay, okay, break it down real quick.
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Last legend.
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Who can compete with her?
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Strength, strength-wise, power-wise.
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Oh, Ray Ripley.
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What about Nia Jax?
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Then you got Nia Jax out there.
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Then who's Nia Jacks gonna go against?
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Charlotte Flair.
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Power-wise?
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Strength-wise?
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Not talking about skill-wise, that's about pure wrestling-wise.
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Well, everybody else would be you uh.
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Exactly.
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Yep, yeah-huh, exactly.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, you're looking at it now, aren't you?
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Exactly.
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On paper, on paper, the heels have the advantage.
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But, like they say in sports, that's why you play the game.
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That's why you do it.
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Because on paper only means so much to think about that and play.
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You can have the best team ever assembled and still lose.
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So that's what I'm saying by on paper, the heels should win.
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Yeah.
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You know, and and you got who winning?
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I have the baby face to win.
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So I'm gonna go ahead and say on paper they're gonna win, and they're gonna win in a match too.
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So I'm gonna go with the heels winning.
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Um, and I'm gonna say AJ Lee Pence.
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No, it's a survivors, it's a war games, never mind.
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So No, Sumo can still get pinned.
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No, but I was gonna say A.J.
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Lee Penns Banky, but that'd be matches over.
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Uh.
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Because the first pinfall wins in the survivor series.
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I'm thinking about the traditional.
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Oh, yeah.
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But in this war games match, you know, we can't, there's no pinfall until everybody's in the ring.
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So the match doesn't start until everybody's in there.
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Mm-hmm.
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So the first two win there are gonna be in there the whole time.
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Yeah.
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Which is probably gonna be.
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Yeah, um, I'm thinking Eo Sky and Mash Legend.
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No, not the beginning of the match.
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I don't know if Lad is cardio her first time ever.
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Oh, well then um, one of the Kabuki Warriors.
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Yeah, say Eo and one of the Kabuki Wars.
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It's technically Asuka's team, so I don't see her story.
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It's technically her team if you think about it.
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I know, but I'm just saying it's one, it's it's gonna be one of the Kabuki Warriors and probably EO.
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Yeah.
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I don't see AJ League trying to do that her first match.
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Her second match rather, since she's been back and she has a she goes for full distance.
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I'm surprised she's even in this match.
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Her and like why not?
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Her and like well just her.
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Yeah.
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But she's going against Becky though.
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It's this that makes sense for her and Becky was horrible.
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I'm not saying it doesn't make sense, it's just surprising that she would they would put her in this type of match.
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Yeah, I mean, maybe she wants to be in a type of match.
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She wasn't she wasn't in none of the first ones.
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Yeah.
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She had been in a female Royal Rumble.
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Because they hadn't had Roy Rumbles when she retired the first time.
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So she hadn't been in a Royal Rumble yet.
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She hadn't been in a War Games match yet, Money in the Bank match yet, I don't think.
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Maybe she has been in a Money in the Bank match.
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I don't think so though.
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I don't know if Money Bank's been out for a while.
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Because Sam Pump wanted Money in the Bank a while.
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What about a Lemon's money?
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That's what I'm saying.
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I don't know if Women's was out back then.
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So maybe she hadn't been in none of them kind of matches, I don't think.
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Yeah.
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You know.
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Um, so it makes sense for her to be in it, you know.
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It makes sense for Charlotte and Alexa, Eo, Rhea, the uh Naya, Lash, makes sense.
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Kabuki Warriors, Becky Lynch.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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But that is only, let's say five?
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Yeah, it's five on five.
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That's five, yeah.
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Five on five.
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So yeah, I'm gonna go with the Kabuki the um the heel team of the Kabuki Warriors, Bakey, Naya, and and last Legends to win.
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Yeah, so um, yeah, I'm picking the main pieces.
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But yeah, for the second match on the card, it's Stephanie McCare versus Nikki Bella.
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All right, so on three, we're gonna say who we're gonna pick.
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But then we're gonna spite it later.
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All right.
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All right.
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One, two, three.
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Stephanie.
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All right, go ahead.
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Let's make sure you're on the second page.
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All right, go ahead.
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Yeah.
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Why didn't we?
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I'll just make sure you're on the same page.
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But um, so I don't see Nikki Bella winning.
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This is her first really feud that she's had with the title.
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Yeah.
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And a heel, but a heel Nikki Bella is a the best Nicki Bella.
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Uh-huh.
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I mean, it just makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Just like Drew McIntyre.
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Like heel Drew McIntyre, like Kevin Owens.
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It's certain people who just make good heels.
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Uh-huh.
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You know, Kevin Owens, Drew McIntyre, guys like that, Seth Rollins, guys like that are just, and Nikki Bella is one of the women like that.
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Yeah.
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You know, Nia Jackson, same way.
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Oscar and Kyrie, same way.
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Becky, same way.
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They make better heels, they do baby faces.
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You know, it's just their personality seems like it works better being a a a heel than a baby face.
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Just seems like it.
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And I mean, I like Nicki Bella.
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I wish they had strung it out a little longer than because I mean, they weren't even on TV Monday.
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Yeah.
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Nikki won't even on TV Monday.
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How you not, how are you, how are you not, how are you not there in the last show before, the last raw show before Tomorrow series?
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I mean, you didn't have a face-to-face.
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They had, I mean, they had a standard talking backstage, but Nikki didn't do a did Nikki do a little thing?
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I don't remember seeing Nikki.
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No, I don't think so.
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Yeah, I don't remember seeing it.
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I was gonna say I don't remember seeing it.
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But yeah, so whole fit is being a good match.
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We'll see how Nikki does in a one-on-one setting like this.
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Um, has she had seen one-on-one matches?
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Yeah, against Becky, right?
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Yeah, that's right, yeah.
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Was it?
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Yeah, that clash.
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Yeah, that's right.
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That's right.
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But um, so yeah, I mean, you know, we'll we'll see how Nikki does in uh in a match against like this on uh against Stephanie.
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We'll see.
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But uh yeah, so I got Stephanie Vacara winning.
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I mean, obviously, uh I mean I think obviously, but she's top one top three or four women in W right now, wrestling right now.
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I mean, by far until until Naomi and Bianca comes back, she's easy top three on my list right now.
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You know, once Bianca and Naomi comes back, maybe that may drop down a little bit more depending on what they do with them.
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But for right now, I got I got you know Stephanie winning this match right now and defending, and maybe the way it looks, uh Raquel, maybe the way it looks?
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Beating her?
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No, no, I'm saying her wrestling next.
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Oh, yeah.
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Looks like Raquel, maybe?
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Or maybe, or maybe somebody comes, or may, or maybe Lynn Borgendell back?
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I see I see the earliest her coming back is the Royal Rumble.
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I mean, she's holding, she should be healthy now based on based on her original diagnosis.
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Yeah, but I feel like they're saving her for the Royal Rumble.
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They could be.
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Or think I mean, this is a this is a I mean, CM Pump came back at his paper at this PLE.
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Yeah, but where where would she come back in?
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After this match.
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Stephanie has the belt that she never lost.
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Yeah, but I feel like they're gonna put her in that judgment day angle.
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She they could.
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But that's what I'm saying.
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So she comes back and and and attacks Stephanie, and then judgment they have to figure out, oh shoot, Liv's here now.
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What we do?
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Now they gotta they gotta figure out what they're doing because you see what I'm saying?
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Just like they did Rhea Ripley.
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It's like Dominic Korea Riffley thing.
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Yeah.
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Same way, but now it's gonna be Liv instead of Korea.
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You know.
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But uh, but yeah.
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But um, yeah, so that's all you're gonna say for that?
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Yep.
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So the next match on the card is John Cena versus Dominic Misterna for the Intercontinental Championship.
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Surprised Dominic gets a second match against John Cena.
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I thought they would have gave him, I thought they would have gave somebody else for this.
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Yeah.
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Because he beat he beat Dominic already on Raw.
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I thought they would have let somebody else get the fact that Dominic is the only person this year to get a rematch against John Cena.
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No.
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Who else?
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Cody.
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Well Cody.
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But that was that was for the world title, though.
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That's that's that's and that took and that's like how long in the 20 time?
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WrestleMania SummerSlam.
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Yeah.
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So that was months.
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This is what three weeks?
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Less than a month?
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That's what I'm saying.
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So less than a month later, he's he's wrestling Dominic again.
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And one in his last his last PLE event.
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Because we know uh Certain Main event is not a PLE, it's a it's just all it's a it's a TV show, it's an event on TV.
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It's on regular TV too.
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And it's on Peacock and NBC, so it's not on uh ESPN.
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So this is this is John Cena's last survivor series and last PLE.
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I'm surprised they put him against Dominic.
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I'm surprised they went against Dominic.
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I mean, it makes sense because Dominic gets his rematch.
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Yeah.
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But I'm surprised that he is getting it right now.
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I thought Dominic would wait until later on this year and try to beat whoever John Cena loses it to, or if he retire as a champion, try to get his belt back at the end of the year.
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Yeah.
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That's all I think.
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But you know.
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So go but go ahead, Dougla.
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What you're saying.
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Um, but yeah, I'm gonna say um John Cena.
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I think that's pretty clear, obviously unless there's a unless they hear me out.
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Stay with me now.
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Um the only way Dominic wins.
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Right?
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And John Cena doesn't have any, and here's the thing, though, I wish John Cena hasn't had another appearance before Saturday main event.
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Because you could easily do John Cena versus Ray Mysterio by having Rey Mysterio interfere.
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I know it's not gonna happen, but I'm just saying.
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What if he interfered in a match?
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Calls John Cena championship.
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And then him John Cena feud it.
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You see what I'm saying?
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Like that would make perfect sense.
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Not saying Charles Heel and George Dominic.
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Did you just say perfect sense?
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But I'm saying is who doesn't want to see Raymond City versus John Cena one last time?
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That would probably happen as a baby face, though.
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John Cena.
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John Cena's baby face right now.
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Yeah.
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That's what I'm saying.
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If he liked both of them baby face.
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But that would be that would that would, I know it's not gonna happen because John Cena has no more appearance after this, and that's uh Saturday main event, and that's against whoever wins the tournament.
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But I'm just saying that could have made perfect sense had they had another opportunity for John Cena to wrestle.
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You know.
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And who knows if he if he doesn't.
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I mean, I'm just saying, it makes sense.
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I mean, there's still one spot like for Sheamus.
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True.
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But I don't see I don't see Domin um Ray Ray taking that spot though.
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But but yeah, Rich for thinking.
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Um I'm gonna also go with John Cena because I don't see anything, I don't see anybody interfering in the match that's gonna, because it looks like Dominic and Finn are they're kind of everybody knows what happened with that.
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We know they're gonna arrest eventually.
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Dominic versus.
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I mean, we know that's gonna happen eventually.
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They're gonna upload eventually.
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Eventually, but not anytime soon.
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And we and so they're not gonna probably interfere in the match.
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They're probably not gonna let him go out like they did the first time, interfere like, you know.
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John Smith is gonna be Super John Cena again, and he's gonna win.
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Uh defend it.
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I think he's gonna probably lose this Saturday main event, maybe.
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I mean, he can't he can't run off with the belt because that's literally what he what he didn't do.
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Remember?
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Well, he he can he's not saying he can run off with the belt, but he can he can retire with the belt and and relinquish it.
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Yeah, but I think the whole point of him doing this is to put over younger talent or younger talent.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Any branding on the roster is younger than James.
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Everybody.
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Well, not everybody.
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Well, his his his he's older than well, yeah, his younger brother, but he's older.
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Yeah.
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You know, but but but uh yeah, I don't know.
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I mean, yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know snipe with that.
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Because whoever wins tournament probably is gonna win their cutting championship then, maybe.
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Yeah.
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Unless a certain AEW guy shows up.
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Which I'm he hadn't been on AEW since then.
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Since the since the people who've been talking about it, he has not shown his face on AEW.
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Well, he's not he's not hurt.
00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:22.079
Here's the thing, he's not hurt.
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So why has he not been on TV?
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Hold on.
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I'm not saying, I'm not saying believe like reports and stuff, but they say Triple H have hasn't even reached out.
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Of course they're gonna say they said the same thing about CM Punk not coming back.
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Well, yeah, but that doesn't even make any sense.
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Why doesn't it?
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Because that'll break the internet.
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It did.
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Or it's it's going to.
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That's what I'm saying.
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That'd be the biggest moment.
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That'd be the biggest moment in wrestling history.
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If if Triple H can somehow convince Tony Khan to let them use Adam Copeland for one night.
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I think CM Punk's still bigger though.
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Like as.
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If an AEW signed wrestler shows up on WW TV, that won't be a bigger moment.
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Yes, absolutely.
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It's CM Punk in the.
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It is CM Punk.
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But Adam Copeland is coming back, could potentially be the, I mean, you gotta think, it's it's not just the person coming back, it's the circumstances around it.
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You have a person that's signed to AEW wrestling on a WWE show.
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I'm pretty sure you were saying like a month ago that this wasn't gonna happen.
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I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but I'm saying what if it happens?
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That'd be that would be the biggest moment in wrestling right there by far.
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You see what I'm saying?
00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:35.680
Yeah.
00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:37.359
That would be the biggest moment in wrestling right there.
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You're the one who convinced me to like not.
00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:41.359
Well, I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
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I'm I'm I'm not I'm still saying it won't happen.
00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:46.799
But yeah, but I also said the same punk wouldn't happen either.
00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:47.279
Yeah.
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I was I was watching, we were watching it and I said he's not coming out, and then the music hit.
00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:51.839
Yeah.
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So we know how that went.
00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:57.440
So I'm I'm saying he's not gonna show up.
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But if that comes out, I hope he shows up.
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You know?
00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:00.880
Yeah.
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I just want to see if they can pull it off.
00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:09.039
The unthinkable, you know, because WCW would have never let a uh a wrestler go to WWE.
00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:12.480
Yeah, but it's not like he's gonna have like multiple tournament appearances.
00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.240
I know, it's on, but it doesn't matter.
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The fact that he's on one show is break is is impossible anyways.
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Yeah.
00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:20.480
You see what I'm saying?
00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:23.680
Like you you would have never had a WCW wrestler on WWE.
00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:28.079
I mean, unless like it's a s like that's I'm saying when they were separate company.
00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:29.759
Not when Vincent Man bought them.
00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:42.240
I'm saying when Ted Turner still on WCW, Invincing Man on WWE, you would never have seen a WWE wrestler on WWE and WCW, and you would never see a WCW wrestler on WWE.
00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:43.759
Didn't Brett Hurt do that?
00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:45.839
No, he he he his contract was up.
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Oh that's why he did the Montreal Screwdrive, because they ain't on taking the belt to WCW.
00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:52.000
That was the whole point of that screwdriver.
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That was the whole point of that.
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Because he he didn't want to give they because the original thing he was supposed to win, Vincent Man didn't trust him to give the belt back.
00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:04.799
He thought it was gonna be like Medusa did.
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Remember you weren't born yet, but Medusa took the women's championship to WCW and threw it in the trash.
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Yeah.
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On live TV.
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And then they didn't create the Diva Championship.
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Yeah.
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So she took the she took the world, the Women's World Championship, W and threw it in the trash.
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So they thought Brett Hart might be doing the same thing.
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So they screwed him out of it and called him the fake tap out.
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And he ended up winning, he ended up losing because he went to WCW that next night.
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He was on W that Monday.
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The pay-per-view was on Sunday, Monday night roll at 8 o'clock or 9 o'clock the thing came on.
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Might be 8 o'clock, I'm sure it was three hours, two hours, yeah.
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But he was on TV the next Monday.
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On TV.
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Bret Hart was.
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Yeah.
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So they didn't know if he was gonna, and that's why he put the whole closet in there.
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Now he didn't closet down because now it didn't happen anymore.
00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.599
Then when somebody be released, and then Wednesday he showed up on AEW.
00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.680
I mean Aleister Black did that.
00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:08.079
Well, his he's his contract, he's only 30 days.
00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:12.960
He's on a 30 day contract, he's still on an NXT contract, which is 30 days mostly.
00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:15.759
So that's why he showed up like a month later.
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It's still a month though before Alistair Black showed up.
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Yeah.
00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:24.799
But I mean saying back then there wasn't a clause like that where you can you can literally get released on Monday and then show up on AEW.
00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:26.640
Well, Ricky Saints did that.
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AEW doesn't have a thing like that though.
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Oh, they don't?
00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:31.759
Would it have an injury clause if you get hurt?
00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:33.200
Ricky Saints never hurt.
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Remember, remember Ray Phoenix was hurt, remember?
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Remember Penta came first, then Ray Phoenix came like months later because he was under he's he got he broke his leg.
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And now Penta's injured and he can't do that thing with in AAA with the city.
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Well, depending on how bad it is.
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Yeah.
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It might not be bad, it might not be bad enough.
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It's still next month.
00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:50.079
I mean it had to stop the entire match.
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Yeah, but I don't mean he's hurt for it.
00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:52.559
I don't mean he's gonna be long-term hurt.
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He could be hurt where he can't continue to match.
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Yeah, but like Seth Rollins, like he was he was injured pretty badly and he still continued to.
00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:00.880
That's not what I'm saying.
00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:06.400
What I'm saying is there's a difference between like, okay, like if you if you like sprain your ankle, right?
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:06.799
Yeah.
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If you sprain your ankle, you can't continue to match.
00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:12.319
But you're not gonna be out more than a couple of weeks, one or two weeks.
00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:12.559
Yeah.
00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:17.279
Because your ankle just gotta you just gotta ice it, let the swelling go down, and it'll be back healthy.
00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:18.799
Yeah, I don't think Penta has a sprain.
00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:22.720
I know, but I'm saying if he but if he sprained his shoulder, same thing.
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I think he dislocated.
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If it's okay, then he's out for a while.
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.359
Well, if he only sprained his shoulder, then he's no longer gonna be out for a week or two.
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:31.279
Or two weeks, maybe, you know.
00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:33.039
How do we start talking about this?
00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:34.400
We're just talking about anyway.
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:35.039
Yeah.
00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:43.119
But yeah, so yeah, John Cena winning, uh, going into um you're talking about AEW, that's what we got.
00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:50.799
But yeah, John Cena going into it is gonna win and head into uh saying that main event as champ.
00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:51.839
Yep.
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.279
And he's gonna lose to Gunther.
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Is it gonna be Gother, you think?
00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:58.880
Uh 99% sure.
00:22:59.119 --> 00:22:59.359
All right.
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We'll talk about that later when we get to it, then.
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:02.319
But yeah.
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:14.160
So for the main event, it's Sam Punk's team, which is Sam Punk, Cody Rose, the Usos, and Roman Reigns versus the Visions team, which is the Vision, Logan Paul, Drew McIntyre, and Brock Lizard.
00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.400
And I mean the vision of Brunson Reed and Braun Breaker with Paul Heyman.
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And that's the men's working screen.
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:28.240
So for this one, I mean, we talked about it off camera.
00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.960
You said that it was obviously going to the vision.
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:32.400
Like I didn't say obviously.
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:38.480
I said, I said, just like I said the women's match, on paper, division teams win hands down.
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:39.359
On paper.
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:43.279
Like, if you put him like on paper, they win.
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Like, for one reason, not even not even not even counting Brock Lanster.
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We know nobody knows he can beat Brock Lester in a fight.
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We know that.
00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:53.119
He's a he was a UFC heavyweight champion.
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:53.839
Yeah.
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:55.440
We know that.
00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:59.279
Who can beat Bronson Reed?
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Roman Reed.
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Okay, now we'll drink my guitar.
00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:06.000
Um Cody.
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In a in a fight.
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What type of scenario?
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Okay.
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What type of scenario?
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Doesn't matter.
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Okay, I'll give you Cody Rhodes.
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Bronson Reed.
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Now we're at.
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Roman Reigns, I just said you said Roman Reigns for no no no no no.
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You said Roman Reigns for uh oh Braun Breaker, I'm at.
00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:24.160
Oh, Braun Breaker.
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Now okay, yeah, exactly.
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Jeremy can have.
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No, he can't.
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No, he can't.
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And if you do that, Logan's gonna wipe the floor J.
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So there you go.
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I ain't even I ain't even add Brock Lester to the mix.
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You see you see what I'm saying?
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So even if you take so you take Roman out and take Brock out, then you get look at who you got.
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Matchup, matchup, right?
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Yeah.
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:50.559
But that's why you that's why you wrestle.
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That's why you play the game.
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:58.960
Is because on paper is one thing, but that doesn't mean you can act that's you're gonna actually win based on on paper.
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:00.240
You know what I'm saying?
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But yeah, go ahead with who you think's gonna win.
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:10.400
Um yeah, I I I acknowledge everything you just said, but the babyface team is winning.
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And that's the problem I have right now.
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The babyface team has to win.
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They don't have to win.
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:19.680
They have to, yes they do.
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.440
I mean, that like the stakes, like getting like think about it.
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.920
You got okay, name name who you got on the team, right?
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:26.880
Um, CM Punk.
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Hold on, hold on.
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:28.720
CM Punk.
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Yeah.
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What is he right now?
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Uh World Demon Way champion.
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.400
Okay, Cody Rose, what is he right now?
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.079
Um the undisputed champion.
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:40.880
Okay, Usos, what are they in historical wise?
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Uh one of the best tag teams ever.
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Okay.
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And Roman Reigns.
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Um, like one of the longest reigning champions ever in this, in like our generation.
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:51.279
No, he's the longest in our generation.
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Uh period.
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And one of the longest in history.
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They have to win.
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They have to.
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You got two world champions, one of the top three or four tag teams of all time, top five for sure, and the longest reigning champ of our in the last 30 years.
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And they're and they they have to win.
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:18.319
There's no way you let Logan Paul, Braun Breaker, and Bronson Reed.
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I mean, Drew and Brock are legit.
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They've been world champions before.
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Right?
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:23.839
They've been world champions.
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:30.240
But if you let Logan and anybody in the vision, I mean, I know they're they're young, up and coming, they're future to wrestling.
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.920
As much as I don't like saying that about Logan Paul, gotta give him a prep credit to what he does in WWE.
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:34.319
Right?
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Logan Paul, Braun Breaker, Bronson Reed.
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:37.599
Yeah.
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I I Bronson Reed's not the future.
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He's like 30 seconds.
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Doesn't matter.
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Still can wrestle.
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I mean.
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No, I'm not saying he's like, I'm not saying he can't wrestle.
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:47.039
I'm just saying he's not the future.
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.519
It's just also B till you see in his 30s.
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:50.319
Oh, I didn't know.
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.240
So Kevin Owens, same exact.
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All of them came when they're in the 30s.
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Yeah.
00:26:54.640 --> 00:27:00.079
But, anyways, uh, so that's not the Olyo's.
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:01.680
I mean, yeah.
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Yeah, it's not the Olyo's.
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All right, okay.
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:06.559
It's like okay.
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Anyways.
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I mean, uh, not the only way.
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:11.200
All right.
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.880
They cannot lose that because look at all the gallon, they're on, they have to win.
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:19.920
You can't have two world champions lose in this in a match.
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:26.000
I mean, if unless they're like like doing something with CM Punk or Cody Rose, like save.
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:32.640
Um, I'm not saying this will happen, but Braunbreaker, if he pins um CM Punk, that's gonna set up the world title.
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:33.759
That's what I'm saying.
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:34.880
But that's what I'm saying.
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They have to win, but I just it's it's it's hard for me to pick against a heel team.
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:48.160
Cause they're so stacked, especially, like I say, Drew and Brock by themselves should win a war games match.
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:53.119
And then you add in Bronson Reed, Braun Breaker, and then Logan Paul.
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:54.160
Yeah.
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.519
I mean, Logan Paul's gonna do something stupid.
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:04.079
We know what Braun Breaker's gonna do, we know what Bronx Reed's gonna do, we know what Drew's gonna do, and we know what Brown's got people.
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.799
Well, also, I'm surprised that they're having Bronson in there again.
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:12.240
You know what happened last year.
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:12.640
Yeah.
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:13.839
Broke his ankle.
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:14.480
Whatever it was.
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.799
And Roman Rings and CM Punk was in that scene.
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:20.079
And the Uso this is like, oh yeah, another thing we talked about.
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:21.680
This is like basically the same team as last year.
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.119
Except Cody versus Cody taking out Cody and add Sammy.
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:25.359
Yeah.
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:26.319
That's the only difference.
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.960
And they're basically playing the same role in this match.
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:29.440
Yeah.
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:30.960
But Cody's a world champion, though.
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:31.599
Sammy wasn't.
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:33.200
Yeah, but like you get my point.
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:33.920
Yeah, I got you.
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:35.440
But they got more at stake now.
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.680
Who caused if Sam Puff and Cody gets pinned, whoever pins will get the championship shot.
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:41.599
Or they should anyway, it's how it should work.
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:45.119
So you say you picked the babyface team?
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:45.599
Yeah.
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.480
I need to pick the babyface team, but I'm not.
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:49.839
I'm gonna pick the hill team.
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.119
You pick so I pick the babyface team and you pick the heels team.
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:54.319
Yeah, I'm gonna pick the Hills team.
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:55.359
But from both of them.
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:56.079
For both of them, yeah.
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.880
I think I think we're gonna be wrong on I think I'm gonna be wrong on the first one.
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:01.519
We'll see.
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:03.599
But yeah, I'm I gotta go different code.
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.880
We picked the same guy in the middle, so in order to make it in order to make it fair.
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:07.279
Yeah.
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.440
Or make it not fair, but in order to get my win, I have to uh pick them.
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:13.200
I'm not so sure about that.
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:13.839
Mm-hmm.
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.880
That's why I watch it though.
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:18.720
But yeah, all right.
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:20.880
Anything else you want to talk about where we uh finish this up?
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:25.119
And there's probably I'm I'm I'm probably sure they're gonna add a fifth match on SmackDown.
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:25.839
Oh, yeah, probably.
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:27.680
Probably don't know who it's gonna be.
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:29.119
Uh not really sure yet.
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.720
Maybe a women's match.
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.119
Uh because two women's matches.
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:36.400
Two women matches right now and two men's matches.
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.920
There's never more women's matches than men's, unless it's like evolution.
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:40.480
Yeah.
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:41.119
Well, we'll see.
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:41.359
Maybe.
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.720
But I mean, there's no other men's, there's no other men's matches that you've put on there.
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:46.559
There's more women matches you can put on there right now.
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.279
Yeah, I'm no, but there's there's never more women's matches.
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:50.000
That's what I'm saying.
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:51.759
I'm not saying that couldn't happen.
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.799
What I'm saying is you have all world champions except for one on this on this card.
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.680
Oh, he's got two men world champions and the female world.
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:00.319
Champion.
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.480
I don't know what you're missing right now is uh Jay Cargill.
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:08.000
Jay Cargill, and you're missing the other mid-car championship.
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:08.240
Yeah.
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:09.279
Just Chelsea Green.
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:10.720
Both of them, actually.
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:14.079
Maxine.
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:15.039
That's right, Maxine.
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:16.960
But she she's she's she's feuding right now.
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:18.720
So I'm not gonna they're not gonna put her on PLE right now.
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:19.279
Oh yeah, I know.
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:20.160
I'm just saying.
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:24.720
But but yeah, so uh that's what I want to talk about before that.
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:25.599
Nope.
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:30.960
All right, uh, so yeah, let's get to it and uh let's watch Scary First Virus series.
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.680
Should be interesting to see how it works this year.
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:39.279
Uh but yeah, I've been to the episode of Tag Team Talk.