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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Behind the Bower. I'm
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Ryan Steffen, the executive director for Bower Center for the
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Arts here in beautiful Bedford, Virginia. On this podcast, we
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get to know some of the incredible artists, creative people,
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and organizations that help make our community such a special place.
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We talk about where creativity comes from, the journey that
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brings people to the arts, and hopefully inspire a few
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people along the way to try something new. Today, I'm
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welcoming someone new to the Bower Center family. Lisa Stephen
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is our new stained glass instructor, and we're excited to
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have her share her creativity and experience with our community. Today,
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we're going to get to know Lisa a little bit better,
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talk about her journey as an artist, and learn more
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about the art of stained glass. And students can hear
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what to expect from her classes here at Bauer Center
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for the Arts. Welcome to the Bauer.
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Thank you.
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All right. So I'm fumbling all over my words this morning.
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I think it's my Monday. We had yesterday off.
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Yeah, right.
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So thanks for joining us. I know you're not Bedford,
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but you're Bedford Tangential. Can you tell us where you're from?
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I'm actually born and raised in California. So Central California.
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I moved here in January of 2021 after living in
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the San Francisco Bay Area for 10 years. So I was...
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really over living in the city and just really wanted
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to be around nature and landed here.
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So I love this question because there's a lot of
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people from here who are not from Bedford, but move
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to Bedford. And there's always something, a story that draws
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them here. What drew you to this area of Virginia?
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So you've seen my spreadsheets. I'm a little neurotic.
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Yes, she is fantastic.
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I actually laid out every single state and then started
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to slowly whittle it down, which was quite a process
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with my partner. And I was really getting into herbalism
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during COVID. And this area has a really big herbalist community.
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Oh, yeah.
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So that drew me. And then I've got some family
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in the area in Greensboro and Powhatan. So that also
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kind of helped me pinpoint this area. Yeah.
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That seems so very on brand for you. Very systematic,
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very thoughtful. So we invited Lisa to join us as
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a stained glass instructor, partially because we we've been looking
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for an instructor to do that and didn't really have one.
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And our new programming person, Anna, is like, I've got
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the perfect person who could get this started back up
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for us. And so she asked you to come join us.
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And so I thank you for joining our family. So
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part of this podcast is to let people know a
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little bit about yourself. So I know you said you
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were moved here from California, but let's rewind and tell
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us a little bit about who you are.
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Oh, let's see. I'm a little bit of an introvert.
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So I never saw myself becoming a teacher, the idea
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of public speaking. But I have always been a creative bug,
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I guess. I remember drawing Garfield when I was a
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kid and photography was my first like artistic passion. I
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still love documenting my everyday life, people around me. I
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actually photographed weddings for 10 years, which was really fun
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and also a little bit depressing when Pinterest weddings became
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like a really big, I don't know, Marker for weddings.
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It's almost like you lose your creativity at that point.
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You're like, I just want this photo. I just want
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this filter and this background.
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Especially as somebody who focused more on photojournalistic style. I
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didn't really want to do the post stuff.
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I wanted to do.
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The natural emotional interactions and connections.
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So, yeah.
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What I got to do was really fun. And then
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at some point, I decided I wanted to go into
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birth photography.
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Okay. Which.
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I spent like a year preparing for in 2019. And
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then when COVID hit, they weren't even letting partners into
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the hospital. So unfortunately, I never got to pursue that.
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But yeah, I have two younger sisters. I have four cats.
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I love my babies. What else could I share? I
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love traveling. Photo booths are my favorite. I collect Squish pennies.
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I love it. So tell me a little bit about
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your artistic journey. I know you said you did photography.
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Have you always been artistic or is this something that
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you feel like was later?
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I don't know that it was cultivated as much when
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I was a kid, but I was always doodling. I'd
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get in trouble like in second grade for drawing on
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the desks and things. And I've kind of explored a
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lot of different mediums like I think most artists do,
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but I... Um, I taught myself a little bit of embroidery.
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I taught myself how to quilt. I jumped right into
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a queen size quilt, which was so silly of me, but, um,
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has now become like a family heirloom. So, um, yeah, I, I,
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I started off with photography being an assistant, um, somebody
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who needed help getting the mail done and things like that. Um,
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and then I quickly became her second shooter and, Um,
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it just blossomed from there.
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Um, yeah.
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All right.
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So do you remember your first dabbling in stained glass? Yeah.
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Um, so I was in a mixed media art class
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in high school.
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And one of the assignments that we were given was
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to do stained glass. And I did, I meant to
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look this up, but I think it's called a Brachiosaurus,
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the dinosaur with the long neck.
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Yeah. So that was my first ever stained glass endeavor.
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And I was so sad when we moved on to
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the next mixed media assignment because I just loved it.
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And then, gosh, that was like, what, 13, 14 years
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ago now. So it took me a while to get
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back into it. But, you know, when I found it
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here in Lynch or in Lynchburg area, I was really
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excited to get back into it.
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Wow. I can't imagine having stained glass in high school.
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I know that's that's it. A great arts program that
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can incorporate part of that.
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You know, and I think that that's something that our
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community signs for good is that our art teachers really
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can bring a wealth of opportunities for kids to dabble in.
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Yes.
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You know, in Bedford County Schools, we're lucky that at
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the Bauer Center we host an exhibit every year with
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the Bedford County Schools. And it's been, you know, I've
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been involved now for about three or four years, and
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it's been fun to watch what each individual teacher brings
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to the table. Mm-hmm. as they introduce their kids to medias,
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to styles, to opportunities. At this point now, I can
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almost say what school pieces come from based off of
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the personalities I know about their teachers. And I think
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it's such a neat thing that an individual can bring
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so much to a kid like that.
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Yeah. I mean, the right kind of teacher, I think,
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can bring out such... I don't know how to word
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it exactly, but... The right kind of teacher can just
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do magic with kids.
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Right. And it's serendipity that you happen to have a
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high school teacher that happened to know a little bit
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about stained glass and that happened to throw it to you.
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You know, I'm forever thankful to my art, to art
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teachers who I think were surprised I didn't go into art.
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I really liked it. I went into all kinds of things,
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you know, but landed as an English and theater teacher.
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And I had one of my old art teachers who said,
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he's like, well, you're still doing art. Like you just
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do three-dimensional sculptures. Yeah. that are temporary. Yeah. Um, and
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so I, I loved viewing at that direction that the
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artists never left. I just picked a very specific medium.
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So you actually taught your first class at the Bauer
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center this past weekend.
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Yeah.
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How'd that go?
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It was fun. I, there was a full class of
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six people and, um, it was a little bit of
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a challenge to learn a new space for teaching, but, um,
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that's part of what I love about it. And, um, Yeah,
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I gave them kind of a difficult piece. It was 3D.
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So assembly was a little bit of a challenge. But yeah,
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they did great. They had a lot of fun picking
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the different colors of glass and learning how to cut,
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which is always probably my favorite part of watching people
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make their first cut. Because we're so trained that you
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can't break glass, you know, dishes and whatnot. So yeah.
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getting to see somebody actually break the glass and you
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hear that clink and it's just so satisfying.
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And probably there's a reaction on their face. Like, Oh
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my gosh.
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And I broke it the way I wanted to. Yeah.
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Or I did not. Yeah.
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Surprisingly, most people do get a good first cut.
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So, you know, tell us a little bit, every art
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medium is different. What do you, what do you teach
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your students to consider when creating a stained glass piece?
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I think color comes into play with glass. It might
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look one way on the table, but the moment you
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pick it up and hold it against a light, you're
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going to get a whole different personality. So that's one aspect.
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I think when I draw up my patterns for these workshops,
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I try to have something that has some flexibility. So
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I don't have too many pattern pieces right next to
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each other. There's fluidity. If they end up cutting it
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a little bit smaller or a It just becomes that
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much more unique. There's a lot of safety. I want
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everybody to be safe when they're working with these mediums.
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There's a little bit of chemicals in play. There's obviously
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the solder. So, yeah, safety and flexibility, creativity is just
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like a couple of the.
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It's sharp and hot and caustic.
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Yeah, everything all together which is like a big part
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of the appeal i think for for me like i
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i'm a little bit of a thrill seeker i've gone
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skydiving twice and ziplining and such so that that was
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like a big thing that drew me to stained glass
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was that um the play between fear and power you're
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getting to experiment with something you don't normally get to touch.
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Right. And, and, and harnessing things that you don't really
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get to always control.
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I had never thought about it until you said it
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right now, but it's actually a very interesting way to
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look at that.
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And it is very much a dialogue because you have
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to learn how to talk to the glass, how to
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cut it in such a way that it, or score
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it so that it breaks the way you want. If
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you mess around, it's going to do its own thing.
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And then, and then you get that feedback real fast. So, um, yeah.
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So take me a little bit through like an introductory course.
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What is a student going to do in an introductory course?
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Yeah. I think the most rewarding thing is that you
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start with nothing and you get to take home a
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finished piece in that three-hour class. And I'm going to
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show you how to cut the glass. I'm going to
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show you how to grind it. And then you put
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this really thin layer of copper tape on it so
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that we can solder it.
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Can I back up? What does grind it mean?
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Grind it. So in order to get to the shape
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of your pattern piece, um, you might have to cut
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off or grind off file off a little bit of
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the glass. So especially as a beginner, you might not
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be as forward about cutting the glass. You might end
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up with a little extra. Um, so you get to
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just smooth it out, take off the teeth if you will.
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to fit in like a puzzle piece.
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So is that how curved pieces eventually are done? I
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know this workshop was working very much with straight pieces. Yeah.
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But is that how you make a curved piece?
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No, you can cut a curved piece. The glass cutter
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that we use is very malleable. So you can move
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in funky directions. The more advanced you get, the more
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comfortable you get with that. But this last workshop was
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straight lines. And most of my workshops actually have a
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lot of curves in it. I've learned that a lot
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of beginners don't do well with really tight curves. So
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I try to make it kind of middle ground. But
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I also like to challenge my students. So there's some
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in there. So you can use the glass cutter and
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you can use different pliers, different tools to pull those
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pieces out and get the shapes that you're going for.
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few pieces. like clean up things at the end, but soldering,
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you get the soldering iron, you're working with 310 to
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360 degree iron and you get your solder and you
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get to melt that down and it turns into this
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kind of mercury like texture. So then it's kind of
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fun because you have to learn how to get it
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to smooth itself out, coagulate. flow across your piece.
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one of the students who took that class yesterday. I
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was in the Bauer Center and so was she. And
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she was talking about how it wasn't working the way
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that it was supposed to. And you had to remind
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them that they were working in a piece in three dimensions.
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Gravity will very much work against you if you're not
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thinking about that.
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Right. So it's just funny. You talked about like having
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to learn to make it malleable. And she was sharing
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that story about learning to harness molten metal.
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the more you work it, the more you have the
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chance of it kind of bleeding through the other side
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of your glass or you burn up what's called flux.
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It's a chemical that just helps it kind of move smoothly.
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You have to let it cool. And it's neat because
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you get to watch it change color as it cools down.
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a matte silver and yeah.
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So, yeah. How long would you say it takes many
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stained glass artists to feel like they have control of
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the tools that they're using?
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two or three of the sun catcher workshops, you're going
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to be pretty confident moving forward. That's just the easiest
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way for me to put it in a parameter, but,
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the more you work with it, the more confident you get.
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I feel like I've also watched so much content online
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that it's helped me teach it in a certain way,
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the way that my brain works, I guess. I feel
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like I've explained it in a way that speeds that
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up a little bit from when I was learning. So
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not to toot my own horn, but it makes a
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difference to know like you have to press the iron
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all the way down to the glass through the solder
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versus just like brushing across the top and warming it yeah.
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now exist out there to help us yeah and to
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help us be better teachers i mean i do think
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resources sometimes give us some false confidence totally yeah we
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look at these super intricate things they're like i can
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do that um maybe like making a quilt yes.
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pottery recently and I've watched some videos and man, people
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make it look so easy. And then getting my hands
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on it myself, I'm like, oh yeah, this is going
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to take some time to learn.
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I've taken, well, I took pottery in high school and
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then I took a class at the Bower Center. It
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was the very first introduction I had to the facility
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at all. And I'm still not convinced I ever actually
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learned how to center the clay. So everything I have
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is just a little wonky and a little crooked. I'm
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very proud of them. But I'm not sure I got
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past the first step, honestly. I always think I'm going
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to go back to it.
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One of the things that I try to bring into
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my classrooms is I don't want people to be fixated
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on perfectionism. I think that's really easy for our inner
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critic to take over. But there's just so much fun
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in play. Right? So, like, part of the patterns is
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if you accidentally grind it into a little bit of
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a wobbly shape when it's supposed to be a straighter curve,
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that's part of what makes it your unique piece of art.
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Right. And, you know, depending on how flexible you can
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be as an artist, maybe you adapt your whole path
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based off of an accident.
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I think there's a lot of art that changes their
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path on an accident. Yeah.
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In fact, I had one student who came up to me.
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We were making succulents in, like, a little pot. Mm-hmm.
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And she was like, I just feel like it needs
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one more leaf on this side because the colors I
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chose is just not balanced. And I was like, yeah,
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go for it. And she went and drew up her
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own leaf and added it to it. And it did
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make such a big difference.
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Yeah. So Lisa offers workshops. I'm reminding everybody here. So
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we do have a four week like basics class for
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somebody who wants to learn a little bit more of
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the process and the nitty gritty. But, you know, the
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workshops are a great opportunity. It's something that we've worked
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really hard this this semester in classes to is to
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have workshops available for people who don't want to commit
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the time, don't necessarily want to commit the money yet,
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but want to try it out. And, you know, you
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mentioned something about the artistic community. And so I happen
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to be working the desk on the day that they
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were running this class. And sometimes I would drop in
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and take a look. And sometimes I don't want to
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freak you out about this. I would just stand outside
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the hall and eavesdrop because I love to hear like
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how the community works. And there are some times where
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it was very clear, concentrated silence and other moments where
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there were just like giggled conversations.
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And I think that's a big. hard about taking a
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class as opposed to like learning it on YouTube there's
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certainly ways you can do that is there is this
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like sense of community where you learn from each other
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you talk to each other either you bounce ideas or
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you Or you get affirmation. Yeah. You know, that looks great.
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Sometimes I need affirmation to tell me I'm doing it right. So,
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you know, we have two more workshops left this fall, right?
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So tell me a little bit about the two workshops
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you've got coming up.
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Yeah. So I don't know if I could tell you
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the dates offhand.
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That's okay.
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But in October, we're doing a spooky stained glass workshop.
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So students will get to pick from four designs. I
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have a ghost. I have a bat. I have a pumpkin.
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And.
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one other one that I'm spacing thing. Um, and then, um,
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in December is the festive festival. No festive.
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Festive workshop. And so same idea you can pick from, um,
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a Christmas tree, I think, uh, Christmas light and something else.
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I forget what I have options.
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What a great gift for somebody. I was just thinking like,
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what a great way to like make a stained glass
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ornament or a stained glass piece to give somebody, uh, Yeah. So,
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you know, I anticipate that that workshop might feel the
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workshops both might fill up pretty fast. Yeah. Right now
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we're only limited to six. There's a couple of reasons
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for that. One is six is probably the biggest number
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that you probably want to work with. And then also,
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you know, I'm going to have to shout out that
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Lisa in her very organized state sent me a spreadsheet
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that included some sponsors. And I would have to I
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have to make sure that I acknowledge that. that Heiko,
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who makes the soldering irons, actually donated the irons to
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the Bauer Center Stained Glass Program. So we are limited
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to the irons that we have, but thank you to
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them for making them available, for helping us bring this
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class and bring this workshop to the Bauer Center. And
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then electricity is also one of our challenges. Unfortunately, by
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the time you're plugging in irons and grinders, you kind
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of run out of plugs and electrical currents. All that
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is to say, if you want to sign up for
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these classes, I say sooner rather than later is better
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Cause I have a feeling they may hit their caps
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faster than definitely.
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Yeah.
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So let's backtrack a little bit about you as a
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stained glass artist. What's your, do you have a favorite
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piece you've made?
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Yeah. Probably I've made this clad off, which if you're
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not familiar with that as an Irish totem, usually it's
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worn as a ring. So it's two hands that are
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holding a heart that's wearing a crown. And if you
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wear it one way, that means that you're looking for
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a partner. If you flip it the other way, it
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means that you are in a relationship, you're committed. And
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I decided to make it not because I have any
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Irish roots that I know of, but because I was
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preparing to sell at a St. Patrick's Day market and
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got really inspired. But it's the largest piece that I've
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done to date. And I created the pattern from scratch
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and had to it taught me a lot about pattern
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making what worked and what didn't work um but it's
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just probably my most profound piece thus far did you
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sell it i still have it i've had a lot
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of interest in it um unfortunately glass isn't cheap so
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i haven't had to take her yet but i'm sure
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it'll find its right home eventually i've had a lot
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of people take pictures and ask about the pattern and
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if i'd be willing to sell the pattern and such.
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But Speaking of glass being not cheap, this is not
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necessarily a cheap hobby. And I love to ask this
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of knitters and crocheters, but how much glass do you
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have stored up at your house?
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Yeah, I have quite a bit. I probably have like
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probably about like three milk cartons worth, I'd say, like
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milk crates. I have to be careful because it's, yeah,
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it adds up really fast. Yeah.
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How do you find glass?
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You can start off really easy at Hobby Lobby. They
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don't have a lot of this selection, but it's something.
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You can find it on Facebook Marketplace. I've actually gotten
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some free donations from a few people that way on
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buy nothing groups. But if you head to Richmond, Mojo
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Glassworks is a relatively new glass supplier in the area.
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And then Up in Maryland, Frederick, Maryland, there's a place
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called Anything in Stained Glass, and they're probably the most
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premier local to our region for any kind of glass.
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I would say that's who we've worked with as well
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in getting some of the supplies that you suggested. Fantastic
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group to work with.
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Yeah, they're really great.
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To the point that I accidentally put in the wrong
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name on the credit card, and I called them. I'm like,
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I don't know what I was thinking. I put in
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the wrong name. And they're like, no, we're good. We've
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got it taken care of. They're just great to talk to.
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Their customer service is great. um going back to the
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glasses so how do you pick glass oh what are
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the things you have to consider because this is something
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i don't know anything.
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About yeah there's i mean there's a couple different companies
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that make it and some of them are definitely like
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fancier than others when you look at it you're obviously
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going to start looking at colors you can get solid
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transparent um there's wispy there's different textures too so you're
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not just looking at the color you're looking at is
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it water drops is it waves or ripples is it
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does it have striations is there sometimes they'll like melt
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sticks of glass into it so it has like these
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little stripy bits or there's like a confetti type so
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it depends on the project you're working on and and
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just I guess whatever appeals.
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Yeah So what's your favorite part of the whole process?
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Because there's obviously lots of stages and lots of parts.
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What is the part that you love the most?
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Probably cutting. I used to really dislike soldering, but now
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I enjoy it now that I understand it better. But
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cutting is just really satisfying. I can get to a
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production mode where I'm just cutting and then I have
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to tell myself I need to stop so I can
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move on to the next step. But it's just really
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satisfying to glide the glass cutter across it and then
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it does this kind of zipper sound. So you get
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that like immediate feedback. Um, and then breaking is just
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really enjoyable.
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Right. So if somebody was scared to take this class,
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what would you tell them?
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Um, I feel like embrace the fear. I think there's
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something challenging about it that is, um, enticing and, and
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also like I do everything I can to make sure
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that you're safe and well taken care of. So there's nothing, um,
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That's going to harm you. I've got band-aids on hand.
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I've got burn gel on hand, but.
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You only had one band-aid incident this whole workshop, which
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was pretty good.
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And it was myself. But that's because I move a
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little too confidently sometimes and I just forget it's sharp.
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But yeah, I mean, even when you do cut yourself,
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it's such a minor thing. It's more like a paper
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cut than anything else.
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And I will acknowledge that Lisa did a really good
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job of making sure that we were set up safety-wise
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and giving me lots of recommendations of what we should
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look at purchasing, what we should look at having on
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hand to make it easier. So we have the gloves,
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we have the silicone mats and the, I don't know
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what they're called, the grates. Yeah, the waffle grates.
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The waffle grates, yeah.
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The waffle grates, yeah.
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Those are awesome because you cut on top of it
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and all the little shards, the spicy glitter drops down
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and then it's not getting into your fingertips. Yeah.
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So I appreciate that you had a nod to safety there, too,
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because I know that that's for some people, that's the
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part that's the scariest. Yeah. Is it feels like a
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dangerous art. Yeah.
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Even the solder is made out of lead, right? It's 60,
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40 tin and lead. And that's a concern for a
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lot of people. But I've done quite a bit of
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research so that I understand as long as you're not
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eating around it, you're pretty much going to be safe.
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And then we're obviously washing our hands when we're done
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with our project and such. All right.
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So. I feel like I've learned a lot about stained glass.
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And I'm looking at my time and thinking we're pretty
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close here. So, Lisa, I do want to thank you
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for taking time to join us today and for sharing
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a little bit about your story and a lot about
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how stained glass works and how those classes are going
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to work. I know our listeners have enjoyed getting to
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know you a little bit better, and we're excited to
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have you as part of our Bauer Center family now.
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I hope everyone listening will come out, meet Lisa, and
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take a stained glass class for themselves. As always, there's
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plenty happening at the Bauer Center, so if you're wondering
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what else we've got coming up, here you go. First,
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our National Juried Exhibition, Art in Motion, is currently on
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display in our galleries. The exhibit showcases incredible artwork from
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artists across the country, all centered around the theme of
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movement and motion. Join us for that awards ceremony and
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reception this Friday, September 11th, from 5 until 7. It's
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always a great opportunity to meet some of those artists,
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see the incredible work they're doing, and to celebrate the
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arts in our community. The very next day on September 12th, Saturday,
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we're excited to welcome Swan Song out of Charlottesville. They're
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going to bring together strings and classical piano with contemporary
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compositions to create a kind of unique sound, and it's
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sure to be a really cool evening of music. Next month,
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on October 10th, we've got a busy day at the
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Bauer Center. Cab Kids Free Family Art Day will feature
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the Bremen Brothers, performed by Opera on the James out
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of Lynchburg. A wonderful opportunity for families to come out,
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enjoy a performance, and spend some creative time together. And
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then later that evening, we're excited to welcome back our
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resident big band ensemble, Big Band of the Blue Ridge,
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for their concert that you don't want to miss. If
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you love great music, mark October 10th on your calendar
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and come spend that evening with us. Finally, tickets for
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our annual fundraiser, The Art of Pairing, Bower at the Bayou.
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happening on October 17th. As a nod to our benefactors,
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famous Crawfish Festival, Bauer at the Bayou will feature a
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delicious Creole menu, an art walk demonstration, and entertainment provided
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by Music Road Co. And it's going to be a
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great time. For more details on all of our upcoming classes, events, exhibitions, concerts,
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and performances, visit BauerCenter.org, follow us on social media, or
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just stop in and say hello. Thank you so much, Lisa.
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And thank you for listening to Behind the Bower. We'll
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see you all soon.
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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Behind the Bower. I'm
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Ryan Steffen, the executive director for Bower Center for the
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Arts here in beautiful Bedford, Virginia. On this podcast, we
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get to know some of the incredible artists, creative people,
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and organizations that help make our community such a special place.
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We talk about where creativity comes from, the journey that
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brings people to the arts, and hopefully inspire a few
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people along the way to try something new. Today, I'm
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welcoming someone new to the Bower Center family. Lisa Stephen
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is our new stained glass instructor, and we're excited to
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have her share her creativity and experience with our community. Today,
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we're going to get to know Lisa a little bit better,
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talk about her journey as an artist, and learn more
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about the art of stained glass. And students can hear
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what to expect from her classes here at Bauer Center
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for the Arts. Welcome to the Bauer.
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Thank you.
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All right. So I'm fumbling all over my words this morning.
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I think it's my Monday. We had yesterday off.
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Yeah, right.
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So thanks for joining us. I know you're not Bedford,
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but you're Bedford Tangential. Can you tell us where you're from?
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I'm actually born and raised in California. So Central California.
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I moved here in January of 2021 after living in
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the San Francisco Bay Area for 10 years. So I was...
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really over living in the city and just really wanted
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to be around nature and landed here.
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people from here who are not from Bedford, but move
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to Bedford. And there's always something, a story that draws
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them here. What drew you to this area of Virginia?
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So you've seen my spreadsheets. I'm a little neurotic.
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Yes, she is fantastic.
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I actually laid out every single state and then started
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to slowly whittle it down, which was quite a process
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with my partner. And I was really getting into herbalism
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during COVID. And this area has a really big herbalist community.
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So that drew me. And then I've got some family
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in the area in Greensboro and Powhatan. So that also
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kind of helped me pinpoint this area. Yeah.
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That seems so very on brand for you. Very systematic,
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very thoughtful. So we invited Lisa to join us as
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a stained glass instructor, partially because we we've been looking
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for an instructor to do that and didn't really have one.
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And our new programming person, Anna, is like, I've got
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the perfect person who could get this started back up
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for us. And so she asked you to come join us.
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And so I thank you for joining our family. So
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part of this podcast is to let people know a
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little bit about yourself. So I know you said you
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were moved here from California, but let's rewind and tell
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us a little bit about who you are.
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Oh, let's see. I'm a little bit of an introvert.
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So I never saw myself becoming a teacher, the idea
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of public speaking. But I have always been a creative bug,
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I guess. I remember drawing Garfield when I was a
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kid and photography was my first like artistic passion. I
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still love documenting my everyday life, people around me. I
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actually photographed weddings for 10 years, which was really fun
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and also a little bit depressing when Pinterest weddings became
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like a really big, I don't know, Marker for weddings.
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It's almost like you lose your creativity at that point.
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You're like, I just want this photo. I just want
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this filter and this background.
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didn't really want to do the post stuff.
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I wanted to do.
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The natural emotional interactions and connections.
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What I got to do was really fun. And then
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at some point, I decided I wanted to go into
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birth photography.
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I spent like a year preparing for in 2019. And
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then when COVID hit, they weren't even letting partners into
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the hospital. So unfortunately, I never got to pursue that.
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But yeah, I have two younger sisters. I have four cats.
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I love my babies. What else could I share? I
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love traveling. Photo booths are my favorite. I collect Squish pennies.
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I love it. So tell me a little bit about
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your artistic journey. I know you said you did photography.
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Have you always been artistic or is this something that
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you feel like was later?
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I don't know that it was cultivated as much when
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I was a kid, but I was always doodling. I'd
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get in trouble like in second grade for drawing on
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the desks and things. And I've kind of explored a
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lot of different mediums like I think most artists do,
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but I... Um, I taught myself a little bit of embroidery.
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I taught myself how to quilt. I jumped right into
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a queen size quilt, which was so silly of me, but, um,
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has now become like a family heirloom. So, um, yeah, I, I,
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I started off with photography being an assistant, um, somebody
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who needed help getting the mail done and things like that. Um,
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and then I quickly became her second shooter and, Um,
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it just blossomed from there.
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So do you remember your first dabbling in stained glass? Yeah.
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Um, so I was in a mixed media art class
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in high school.
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to do stained glass. And I did, I meant to
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look this up, but I think it's called a Brachiosaurus,
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the dinosaur with the long neck.
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Yeah. So that was my first ever stained glass endeavor.
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the next mixed media assignment because I just loved it.
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ago now. So it took me a while to get
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back into it. But, you know, when I found it
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here in Lynch or in Lynchburg area, I was really
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excited to get back into it.
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Wow. I can't imagine having stained glass in high school.
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I know that's that's it. A great arts program that
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can incorporate part of that.
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You know, and I think that that's something that our
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community signs for good is that our art teachers really
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can bring a wealth of opportunities for kids to dabble in.
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You know, in Bedford County Schools, we're lucky that at
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the Bauer Center we host an exhibit every year with
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the Bedford County Schools. And it's been, you know, I've
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been involved now for about three or four years, and
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it's been fun to watch what each individual teacher brings
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to the table. Mm-hmm. as they introduce their kids to medias,
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to styles, to opportunities. At this point now, I can
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almost say what school pieces come from based off of
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the personalities I know about their teachers. And I think
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it's such a neat thing that an individual can bring
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so much to a kid like that.
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can bring out such... I don't know how to word
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it exactly, but... The right kind of teacher can just
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do magic with kids.
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Right. And it's serendipity that you happen to have a
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high school teacher that happened to know a little bit
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about stained glass and that happened to throw it to you.
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You know, I'm forever thankful to my art, to art
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teachers who I think were surprised I didn't go into art.
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I really liked it. I went into all kinds of things,
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you know, but landed as an English and theater teacher.
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he's like, well, you're still doing art. Like you just
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do three-dimensional sculptures. Yeah. that are temporary. Yeah. Um, and
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so I, I loved viewing at that direction that the
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artists never left. I just picked a very specific medium.
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So you actually taught your first class at the Bauer
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center this past weekend.
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How'd that go?
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It was fun. I, there was a full class of
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six people and, um, it was a little bit of
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a challenge to learn a new space for teaching, but, um,
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that's part of what I love about it. And, um, Yeah,
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I gave them kind of a difficult piece. It was 3D.
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So assembly was a little bit of a challenge. But yeah,
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they did great. They had a lot of fun picking
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the different colors of glass and learning how to cut,
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which is always probably my favorite part of watching people
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make their first cut. Because we're so trained that you
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can't break glass, you know, dishes and whatnot. So yeah.
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getting to see somebody actually break the glass and you
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hear that clink and it's just so satisfying.
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my gosh.
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And I broke it the way I wanted to. Yeah.
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Or I did not. Yeah.
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Surprisingly, most people do get a good first cut.
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So, you know, tell us a little bit, every art
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medium is different. What do you, what do you teach
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your students to consider when creating a stained glass piece?
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I think color comes into play with glass. It might
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look one way on the table, but the moment you
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pick it up and hold it against a light, you're
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going to get a whole different personality. So that's one aspect.
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I think when I draw up my patterns for these workshops,
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I try to have something that has some flexibility. So
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I don't have too many pattern pieces right next to
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each other. There's fluidity. If they end up cutting it
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a little bit smaller or a It just becomes that
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much more unique. There's a lot of safety. I want
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everybody to be safe when they're working with these mediums.
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There's a little bit of chemicals in play. There's obviously
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the solder. So, yeah, safety and flexibility, creativity is just
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like a couple of the.
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It's sharp and hot and caustic.
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Yeah, everything all together which is like a big part
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of the appeal i think for for me like i
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i'm a little bit of a thrill seeker i've gone
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skydiving twice and ziplining and such so that that was
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like a big thing that drew me to stained glass
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was that um the play between fear and power you're
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getting to experiment with something you don't normally get to touch.
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Right. And, and, and harnessing things that you don't really
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get to always control.
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I had never thought about it until you said it
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right now, but it's actually a very interesting way to
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look at that.
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And it is very much a dialogue because you have
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to learn how to talk to the glass, how to
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cut it in such a way that it, or score
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it so that it breaks the way you want. If
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you mess around, it's going to do its own thing.
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And then, and then you get that feedback real fast. So, um, yeah.
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What is a student going to do in an introductory course?
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start with nothing and you get to take home a
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finished piece in that three-hour class. And I'm going to
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show you how to cut the glass. I'm going to
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show you how to grind it. And then you put
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this really thin layer of copper tape on it so
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that we can solder it.
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Can I back up? What does grind it mean?
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Grind it. So in order to get to the shape
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of your pattern piece, um, you might have to cut
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off or grind off file off a little bit of
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the glass. So especially as a beginner, you might not
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be as forward about cutting the glass. You might end
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up with a little extra. Um, so you get to
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just smooth it out, take off the teeth if you will.
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to fit in like a puzzle piece.
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So is that how curved pieces eventually are done? I
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know this workshop was working very much with straight pieces. Yeah.
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No, you can cut a curved piece. The glass cutter
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that we use is very malleable. So you can move
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in funky directions. The more advanced you get, the more
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comfortable you get with that. But this last workshop was
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straight lines. And most of my workshops actually have a
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lot of curves in it. I've learned that a lot
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of beginners don't do well with really tight curves. So
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I try to make it kind of middle ground. But
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I also like to challenge my students. So there's some
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in there. So you can use the glass cutter and
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you can use different pliers, different tools to pull those
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pieces out and get the shapes that you're going for.
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Okay. I interrupted you. So you're saying copper tape. That's
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where we left off. Yeah.
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And then soldering is essentially the last step. There's a
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few pieces. like clean up things at the end, but soldering,
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you get the soldering iron, you're working with 310 to
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360 degree iron and you get your solder and you
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get to melt that down and it turns into this
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kind of mercury like texture. So then it's kind of
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fun because you have to learn how to get it
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to smooth itself out, coagulate. flow across your piece.
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It's funny you said that because I was talking to
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one of the students who took that class yesterday. I
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was in the Bauer Center and so was she. And
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she was talking about how it wasn't working the way
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that it was supposed to. And you had to remind
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them that they were working in a piece in three dimensions.
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So you had to lay it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Gravity will very much work against you if you're not
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thinking about that.
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Right. So it's just funny. You talked about like having
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to learn to make it malleable. And she was sharing
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that story about learning to harness molten metal.
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You also have to learn how to be patient because
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the more you work it, the more you have the
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chance of it kind of bleeding through the other side
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of your glass or you burn up what's called flux.
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It's a chemical that just helps it kind of move smoothly.
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You have to let it cool. And it's neat because
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you get to watch it change color as it cools down.
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a matte silver and yeah.
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So, yeah. How long would you say it takes many
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stained glass artists to feel like they have control of
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the tools that they're using?
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two or three of the sun catcher workshops, you're going
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to be pretty confident moving forward. That's just the easiest
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way for me to put it in a parameter, but,
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the more you work with it, the more confident you get.
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that it's helped me teach it in a certain way,
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the way that my brain works, I guess. I feel
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like I've explained it in a way that speeds that
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up a little bit from when I was learning. So
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not to toot my own horn, but it makes a
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difference to know like you have to press the iron
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all the way down to the glass through the solder
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versus just like brushing across the top and warming it yeah.
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now exist out there to help us yeah and to
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help us be better teachers i mean i do think
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resources sometimes give us some false confidence totally yeah we
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look at these super intricate things they're like i can
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do that um maybe like making a quilt yes.
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pottery recently and I've watched some videos and man, people
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make it look so easy. And then getting my hands
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on it myself, I'm like, oh yeah, this is going
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to take some time to learn.
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then I took a class at the Bower Center. It
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was the very first introduction I had to the facility
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at all. And I'm still not convinced I ever actually
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learned how to center the clay. So everything I have
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is just a little wonky and a little crooked. I'm
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very proud of them. But I'm not sure I got
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past the first step, honestly. I always think I'm going
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to go back to it.
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One of the things that I try to bring into
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my classrooms is I don't want people to be fixated
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on perfectionism. I think that's really easy for our inner
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critic to take over. But there's just so much fun
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in play. Right? So, like, part of the patterns is
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if you accidentally grind it into a little bit of
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a wobbly shape when it's supposed to be a straighter curve,
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that's part of what makes it your unique piece of art.
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Right. And, you know, depending on how flexible you can
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be as an artist, maybe you adapt your whole path
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based off of an accident.
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I think there's a lot of art that changes their
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path on an accident. Yeah.
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And she was like, I just feel like it needs
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one more leaf on this side because the colors I
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chose is just not balanced. And I was like, yeah,
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go for it. And she went and drew up her
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own leaf and added it to it. And it did
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make such a big difference.
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Yeah. So Lisa offers workshops. I'm reminding everybody here. So
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we do have a four week like basics class for
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somebody who wants to learn a little bit more of
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the process and the nitty gritty. But, you know, the
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workshops are a great opportunity. It's something that we've worked
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really hard this this semester in classes to is to
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have workshops available for people who don't want to commit
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the time, don't necessarily want to commit the money yet,
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but want to try it out. And, you know, you
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mentioned something about the artistic community. And so I happen
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to be working the desk on the day that they
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were running this class. And sometimes I would drop in
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and take a look. And sometimes I don't want to
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freak you out about this. I would just stand outside
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the hall and eavesdrop because I love to hear like
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how the community works. And there are some times where
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it was very clear, concentrated silence and other moments where
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there were just like giggled conversations.
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class as opposed to like learning it on YouTube there's
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certainly ways you can do that is there is this
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like sense of community where you learn from each other
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you talk to each other either you bounce ideas or
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you Or you get affirmation. Yeah. You know, that looks great.
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Sometimes I need affirmation to tell me I'm doing it right. So,
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you know, we have two more workshops left this fall, right?
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So tell me a little bit about the two workshops
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you've got coming up.
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Yeah. So I don't know if I could tell you
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the dates offhand.
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That's okay.
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But in October, we're doing a spooky stained glass workshop.
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So students will get to pick from four designs. I
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have a ghost. I have a bat. I have a pumpkin.
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one other one that I'm spacing thing. Um, and then, um,
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in December is the festive festival. No festive.
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Festive workshop. And so same idea you can pick from, um,
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a Christmas tree, I think, uh, Christmas light and something else.
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I forget what I have options.
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What a great gift for somebody. I was just thinking like,
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what a great way to like make a stained glass
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ornament or a stained glass piece to give somebody, uh, Yeah. So,
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you know, I anticipate that that workshop might feel the
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workshops both might fill up pretty fast. Yeah. Right now
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we're only limited to six. There's a couple of reasons
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for that. One is six is probably the biggest number
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that you probably want to work with. And then also,
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you know, I'm going to have to shout out that
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Lisa in her very organized state sent me a spreadsheet
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that included some sponsors. And I would have to I
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have to make sure that I acknowledge that. that Heiko,
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who makes the soldering irons, actually donated the irons to
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the Bauer Center Stained Glass Program. So we are limited
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to the irons that we have, but thank you to
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them for making them available, for helping us bring this
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class and bring this workshop to the Bauer Center. And
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then electricity is also one of our challenges. Unfortunately, by
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the time you're plugging in irons and grinders, you kind
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of run out of plugs and electrical currents. All that
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is to say, if you want to sign up for
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these classes, I say sooner rather than later is better
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faster than definitely.
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So let's backtrack a little bit about you as a
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stained glass artist. What's your, do you have a favorite
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piece you've made?
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Yeah. Probably I've made this clad off, which if you're
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not familiar with that as an Irish totem, usually it's
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worn as a ring. So it's two hands that are
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holding a heart that's wearing a crown. And if you
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wear it one way, that means that you're looking for
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a partner. If you flip it the other way, it
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means that you are in a relationship, you're committed. And
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I decided to make it not because I have any
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Irish roots that I know of, but because I was
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preparing to sell at a St. Patrick's Day market and
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got really inspired. But it's the largest piece that I've
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done to date. And I created the pattern from scratch
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and had to it taught me a lot about pattern
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making what worked and what didn't work um but it's
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just probably my most profound piece thus far did you
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sell it i still have it i've had a lot
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of interest in it um unfortunately glass isn't cheap so
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i haven't had to take her yet but i'm sure
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it'll find its right home eventually i've had a lot
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of people take pictures and ask about the pattern and
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if i'd be willing to sell the pattern and such.
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But Speaking of glass being not cheap, this is not
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necessarily a cheap hobby. And I love to ask this
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of knitters and crocheters, but how much glass do you
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have stored up at your house?
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Yeah, I have quite a bit. I probably have like
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probably about like three milk cartons worth, I'd say, like
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milk crates. I have to be careful because it's, yeah,
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it adds up really fast. Yeah.
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How do you find glass?
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You can start off really easy at Hobby Lobby. They
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don't have a lot of this selection, but it's something.
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You can find it on Facebook Marketplace. I've actually gotten
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some free donations from a few people that way on
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buy nothing groups. But if you head to Richmond, Mojo
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Glassworks is a relatively new glass supplier in the area.
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And then Up in Maryland, Frederick, Maryland, there's a place
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called Anything in Stained Glass, and they're probably the most
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premier local to our region for any kind of glass.
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I would say that's who we've worked with as well
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in getting some of the supplies that you suggested. Fantastic
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group to work with.
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Yeah, they're really great.
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To the point that I accidentally put in the wrong
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name on the credit card, and I called them. I'm like,
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I don't know what I was thinking. I put in
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the wrong name. And they're like, no, we're good. We've
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got it taken care of. They're just great to talk to.
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Their customer service is great. um going back to the
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glasses so how do you pick glass oh what are
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the things you have to consider because this is something
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i don't know anything.
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About yeah there's i mean there's a couple different companies
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that make it and some of them are definitely like
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fancier than others when you look at it you're obviously
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going to start looking at colors you can get solid
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transparent um there's wispy there's different textures too so you're
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not just looking at the color you're looking at is
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it water drops is it waves or ripples is it
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does it have striations is there sometimes they'll like melt
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sticks of glass into it so it has like these
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little stripy bits or there's like a confetti type so
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it depends on the project you're working on and and
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just I guess whatever appeals.
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Yeah So what's your favorite part of the whole process?
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Because there's obviously lots of stages and lots of parts.
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What is the part that you love the most?
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Probably cutting. I used to really dislike soldering, but now
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I enjoy it now that I understand it better. But
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cutting is just really satisfying. I can get to a
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production mode where I'm just cutting and then I have
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to tell myself I need to stop so I can
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move on to the next step. But it's just really
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satisfying to glide the glass cutter across it and then
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it does this kind of zipper sound. So you get
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that like immediate feedback. Um, and then breaking is just
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really enjoyable.
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Right. So if somebody was scared to take this class,
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what would you tell them?
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Um, I feel like embrace the fear. I think there's
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something challenging about it that is, um, enticing and, and
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also like I do everything I can to make sure
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that you're safe and well taken care of. So there's nothing, um,
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That's going to harm you. I've got band-aids on hand.
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I've got burn gel on hand, but.
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You only had one band-aid incident this whole workshop, which
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was pretty good.
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And it was myself. But that's because I move a
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little too confidently sometimes and I just forget it's sharp.
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But yeah, I mean, even when you do cut yourself,
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it's such a minor thing. It's more like a paper
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cut than anything else.
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And I will acknowledge that Lisa did a really good
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job of making sure that we were set up safety-wise
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and giving me lots of recommendations of what we should
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look at purchasing, what we should look at having on
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hand to make it easier. So we have the gloves,
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we have the silicone mats and the, I don't know
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what they're called, the grates. Yeah, the waffle grates.
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The waffle grates, yeah.
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The waffle grates, yeah.
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Those are awesome because you cut on top of it
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and all the little shards, the spicy glitter drops down
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and then it's not getting into your fingertips. Yeah.
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So I appreciate that you had a nod to safety there, too,
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because I know that that's for some people, that's the
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part that's the scariest. Yeah. Is it feels like a
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dangerous art. Yeah.
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Even the solder is made out of lead, right? It's 60,
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40 tin and lead. And that's a concern for a
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lot of people. But I've done quite a bit of
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research so that I understand as long as you're not
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eating around it, you're pretty much going to be safe.
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And then we're obviously washing our hands when we're done
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with our project and such. All right.
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So. I feel like I've learned a lot about stained glass.
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And I'm looking at my time and thinking we're pretty
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close here. So, Lisa, I do want to thank you
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for taking time to join us today and for sharing
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a little bit about your story and a lot about
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how stained glass works and how those classes are going
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to work. I know our listeners have enjoyed getting to
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know you a little bit better, and we're excited to
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have you as part of our Bauer Center family now.
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I hope everyone listening will come out, meet Lisa, and
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take a stained glass class for themselves. As always, there's
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plenty happening at the Bauer Center, so if you're wondering
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what else we've got coming up, here you go. First,
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our National Juried Exhibition, Art in Motion, is currently on
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display in our galleries. The exhibit showcases incredible artwork from
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artists across the country, all centered around the theme of
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movement and motion. Join us for that awards ceremony and
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reception this Friday, September 11th, from 5 until 7. It's
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always a great opportunity to meet some of those artists,
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see the incredible work they're doing, and to celebrate the
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arts in our community. The very next day on September 12th, Saturday,
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we're excited to welcome Swan Song out of Charlottesville. They're
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going to bring together strings and classical piano with contemporary
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compositions to create a kind of unique sound, and it's
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sure to be a really cool evening of music. Next month,
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on October 10th, we've got a busy day at the
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Bauer Center. Cab Kids Free Family Art Day will feature
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the Bremen Brothers, performed by Opera on the James out
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of Lynchburg. A wonderful opportunity for families to come out,
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enjoy a performance, and spend some creative time together. And
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then later that evening, we're excited to welcome back our
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resident big band ensemble, Big Band of the Blue Ridge,
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for their concert that you don't want to miss. If
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you love great music, mark October 10th on your calendar
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and come spend that evening with us. Finally, tickets for
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our annual fundraiser, The Art of Pairing, Bower at the Bayou.
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happening on October 17th. As a nod to our benefactors,
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famous Crawfish Festival, Bauer at the Bayou will feature a
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delicious Creole menu, an art walk demonstration, and entertainment provided
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by Music Road Co. And it's going to be a
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great time. For more details on all of our upcoming classes, events, exhibitions, concerts,
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and performances, visit BauerCenter.org, follow us on social media, or
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just stop in and say hello. Thank you so much, Lisa.
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And thank you for listening to Behind the Bower. We'll
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see you all soon.