Contentment vs Satisfaction

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Hello, everybody.
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I am David.
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I am the personal trainer here with Balance and Birch.
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And this is JD Tremblay.
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Uh, did you want to take a second to introduce yourself?
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I'm David Camble, and um I am uh the director of high performance at Hungry Warrior Academy, where we help men build uh physically, mentally, and also spiritually uh throughout deck assistants.
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And he's he's being humble.
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He's leaving out the fact he's a phenomenal athlete, has done many athletic feats and crushed all of them.
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Um, but uh the biggest reason why we're having a conversation today is because a lot of people have different methodologies and different philosophies when it comes to optimizing, when it comes to building structure outside.
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Uh like I know me and JD had military service, so we had X exterior structure in our lives, or some people had school and college, and how to get structure in your life after that.
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Um, so ultimately what we're gonna talk about is the ways that we found best uh navigating that.
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And yeah, we might disagree, we might agree, but the the fun part is gonna be having the conversation and figuring out how you all feel.
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All right, well, thanks for having me, David.
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Yeah, of course.
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So the first question that I have for you is how do you navigate your hunger for more with your aspirations to be content?
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And I know we talked a little bit about this before, but I'm gonna grill you a little bit deeper on it this time now that we're recording.
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All right.
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Uh the idea of being content is that you're in you're able to enjoy the moment, but you're never satisfied.
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And so there's a difference between the two where um for me, right?
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Um, I was at uh the Trail Half Marathon World Championship a few weeks ago, and I finished fifth.
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And fifth is not a podium, fifth does not get recognition, fifth does not amount to how much I trained, and so I finished fifth.
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And I was content, content to be at the at the world championship, content that I was not injured, content that uh I participated, but then people put too much emphasis on the part where you are comfortable, which is very comfortable to someone it caters to your emotion, to your feelings, right?
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And so uh the satisfaction part is that I am not satisfied about my performance.
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I uh put too much emphasis on work versus uh the intensity of my my workouts.
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Um my my nutrition played a lot uh into my training, and so I neglected that.
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So there's that deep sense of hunger to develop to achieve that next level.
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So it's not satisfied by well, I finish first or I finish second, or you're always constantly trying to improve.
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And so the one of the ways that I can explain it is the idea and uh the of between feelings and emotions.
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So feelings are an experience of life.
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I'm content with uh happiness today, but uh it might be a sad situation, but but I'm happy so it's just an experience of life.
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Like I'm experiencing life, but I'm not basing my whole decision and my entire day based on my feelings versus emotion, and emotion is completely different, where now you are able to gear your life towards it because emotions you can calculate it.
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If I surprise you, then heart rate goes higher, uh pupils are dilated.
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I can calculate all of those, and then now I can make better decisions.
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And so if you're basing your decisions based on your um emotional state, because you're able to calculate it and you're able to regulate these factors and not your your your feelings, then that would be one example that I could provide uh on how to cultivate that hunger.
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Yeah, and using those things that kind of will be more so attributed as weaknesses and expecting them.
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This is going to come.
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How do I best prepare myself for them?
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I think I think that's a really good outlook on things, especially um because I find myself, and now I put myself in a different category, and that I think many roads lead to Rome, where I find myself in life comes in phases.
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And so I find myself like I'll have content phases and I'll have phases where I'm super driven.
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Would you say it's when you're describing it, it's more so like I'm coming in into a phase, or where you're saying like it's like this is a constant, like I am in a constant hunger and I'm content because you're not married to these things, right?
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Like you have multiple eggs and multiple baskets.
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Uh, would you say it's more of a perpetual thing for you, striving and and uh pushing for these things?
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Or does contentness kind of come in a phase where you're like, let's really focus being content for a month and a half, two months?
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Because I know that for me uh really helps me wind down uh when I go through a period of striving.
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That's almost what I call it.
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Is it's it's a necessary recharge period for now.
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I'm now I know I'm on the go.
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I'm feeling my motivation, I'm feeling driven, I'm feeling disciplined, and I've already rested, so I'm good to go.
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Um, does that make sense?
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Yeah, um, I would see it as more of a perpetual so the ladder, and that's uh because again, it's it you're constantly improving.
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So um the way of content being content is all the time.
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Like I am all the time content.
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I'm in that period of life, I am content.
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So um, yes, it's fifth.
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I'm I'm still content, and I could have not even finished it.
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I'm gonna be content because that's that's what I was given.
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That's the output that I delivered.
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So I'll be content no matter what.
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But the problem that I have is when people are either comparing it to others and saying, Well, I'm not content because of um that person finishing first, or uh, I could have been so there's that difference, and that's why I said, Well, content versus satisfaction.
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So I'm never satisfied.
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No, I will never be satisfied.
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And that's like food, essentially, right?
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When you're looking at food, you're hungry.
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Well, you're never completely satisfied.
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Yes, in that particular meal, you're going to be satisfied because you over ate or overindulged, but even then you're going to learn something in that process because, well, you overate, and so maybe you're going to be sick as a result, or maybe you understand that eating certain type of food creates certain types of inflammation.
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And so, again, that is the learning process.
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That satisfaction, that hunger is always there.
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And you wake up in the morning, you will be hungry, you will be hungry for some type of food, but it's understanding what type of food you should be eating that create that level of inflammation, so you can always improve on that sense.
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And the only level to be able to improve is the emotional state, right?
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Which I explain, or being able to look at these facts versus and and logic and science versus just looking at your uh your your your feelings, like now you're not just eating a dessert because well, but you feel like it.
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Now you're eating a dessert because there is a process to it, right?
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If you are designed to go and you're an athlete, and right, if you're not an athlete and you just want to and you are somewhat healthy, eating that dessert is based on your feelings, and then there are these times where I just yeah, I indulge in it, but that's an experience of life.
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I'm experiencing food, right?
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I'm experiencing that hunger.
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Now that's being content.
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So whether I eat the cake because I feel like it, or whether I eat the cake because uh I am going to use it to increase my carbs intake and use it to go to the gym right after and then burn it off because it's it's quick fuel, then I'm still going to be content.
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So it's still an ongoing process.
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And that's one thing that I really like about how you phrase it because you don't marry the two ideas.
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My hunger is not isn't in uh correlation to my contentness, and I think that's super important because especially when I start off with people, one of the first things I tell them is identify exactly where you are, be so not uh critical, but critique yourself, be honest with yourself, give yourself an honest review because until you know actually where you are and why these patterns are happening the way they are, you can't make a plan and then build to where you want to go.
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And I've always found you have to become content with it.
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Otherwise, you're gonna be fighting yourself.
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Like, I am this way a little bit.
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How do I make a plan to not be that way or to not have that show off in every way?
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Like I know for me, I love sweets more than anything in the world, especially fresh baked goods.
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Um, and I I would eat, eat, eat, eat, eat compulsively.
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And I've suffered all the health effects that came with that, especially uh in high school.
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I would always feel bad and groggy, and I I never I worked out extensively and I was always a little overweight, which I always made me in my head.
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Um, and it was because I couldn't actually come to terms with the fact that I had a problem with sweets.
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I would lie to myself.
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I'd be like, oh, well, I had four cookies and I work out.
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And I think where you're getting at is I have an honesty with where I am, and that gives you the contentness to say, I that is why I'm striving, and I'm gonna keep trying to get better.
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So I I really like the way you phrase that.
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Um, another thing that I have that I wanted to ask you is is contentness the number one thing that's driving your optimization?
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When I say that, is it your desire to be content or your desire to do great things that makes you make yourself the best version of yourself?
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Well, they they both have their their own path.
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It would be like asking the question, um, what's more important, discipline or motivation?
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And then many people will say, Well, it's about discipline, much better.
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Well, then again, I would say which one is better for you?
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Is it your endocrine system or is it your nervous system?
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They're both regulated to operate at different intensities.
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So now you have your nervous system, which is quick, and your endocrine system, which takes much longer.
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The motivation is quick, and then the discipline takes much longer.
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So is it content?
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So the question is is posed in a way where both would be equally important.
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I and that I think that's really important too, because I think it really uh sets in stone the idea that these are two separate concepts, that you're growing these separately.
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So, how do you because I I personally am not default content, I don't wake up in the morning and be super content.
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Um, I find myself journaling, I find myself reading quotes.
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Um, so what are the ways that you and yourself throughout your day, or maybe it comes naturally to you?
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Tell us more about that.
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How are you feeling content?
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Do you do anything?
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Is there anything in your routine that you have to do, or does it come naturally?
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No, no, it doesn't come naturally because the human body is not designed for thriving.
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The human body is designed for survival, and so we have to learn these patterns.
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Um now, now, now I'll speak about it from a Christian point of view because I am Christian and uh our company is has uh Christian principles, but uh the this is applicable for any faith, any religion, or anyone listening, whether you're a man or women, so uh meditation, meditation is a huge part of my day, and so I start my day with uh well I trust best, right?
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Like when I say I start my day, this is not a every single day it will happen.
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Uh, we had an event this weekend, so we had to wake up at four o'clock in the morning.
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I did not wake up in the morning and read my Bible and then spent 12 minutes just meditating.
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I I did okay, so this is not something that did happen.
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Okay, there are other parts of my life that will happen for sure.
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Uh, but meditation is a huge part.
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There are several different ways of meditation, and uh the main part that people have to understand is that um when when the brain shift between brain waves, uh it's been studied with EEGs in the book How God Rewires Your Brain.
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And um scientists that again, when they say God, uh, those guys are not Christian, though the entire book is not based on Christianity.
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They pick different faith and then they analyze them through EEGs or electroence phylogram that calculates uh how brain waves operate, and they prove that it's a minimum of 12 minutes that you require two shifts from one to another.
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And so there are several ways that people can implement it in their life right now.
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One is the 12-minute minimum, uh, and then there is the passive and active, and so uh passive is you are going to break it down into two where you're either allowing your mind to just free flow, that's the one I prefer.
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Uh, and then there are other people that just focus on one aspect, so focus on their breathing or focus.
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I tend not to do that.
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Uh, that's because I try to focus on several uh things throughout the day, anyway.
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So might as well just allow my brain to just go free flowing for 12 minutes.
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And then there is the active side.
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The active side that many coaches out there are forgetting is um the aspect of that zone one, right?
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Which if you're not familiar with it, like I know you are definitely, right?
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But for those that don't know that are listening, zone one is you're able to uh perform the activity that has been given to you, and you're also able to have a coherent conversation with the other person, so you're not out of breath that you're able to say for for some people it's going for a hike, okay.
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That would be zone one for them, for them, but there are other people just going for a walk 10 minutes, and then after 10 minutes they're out of breath, so uh maybe five minutes or even just getting off the couch.
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It depends on your level of fitness and how your body is designed at that moment, and that's uh that that's a ballpark for zone one.
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Okay, so that would be the active uh component.
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I tend to do some rock climbing sometimes.
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I uh I like rock climbing, uh, so it plays on your spatial recognition where you don't you cannot look at your feed, but it has to be placed on a certain hold.
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So I I like that.
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So those are some types of uh ways that I I used in my daily life, uh even today.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I I really like that you have the inactive and the active, because I'm a big proponent of we have to use our bodies, we have to push our bodies.
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If you don't use it, you lose it.
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Um, but I find so many people kind of neglect the importance of the mental growth as well.
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Uh, and that's why I really love your approach that you said that you do with meditation, which is like, I'm gonna let my brain run with this.
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Because I know for me, I I will do like Wim Hof breathing and stuff like that, and it'll be great for math.
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You know, I'll never track Wim Hof breathing at all.
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It's wonderful.
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Um, but my best moments in myself where it's I bring myself to say, this is why this really matters in my life.
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Uh, you know, uh, I guess practicing the mindfulness in my meditation is is is my favorite thing because I always ask myself, instead of limiting thoughts, I'm gonna invite them.
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Why of all things in the world, while I'm sitting down here and thinking, did I think of being a son?
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Did I think of uh a friendship that I have?
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And oftentimes it's because you actually need to think about that and put some excess thought to it.
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So that's what I use meditation a lot for is to grow and and uh I guess refine my own philosophical beliefs to identify and address relationships that need work.
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Because again, I think that helps with the contentness, because if I have my life in order, then I can get to the gym, and the gym isn't this this daunting thing that's weighing on me because the rest of my life is stressful.
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Um, so I I really like that approach where it's inactive and active.
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I've I've I've personally never heard it put that way, but I really like that.
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Yeah, it's one way to do it.
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To me, I give it all to God, right?
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To me, I understand that there are variables that I can control.
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Uh, there, for example, like my my physical state, I can improve it.
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For my mental state, I can improve it, certain types of supplements or the mindfulness, but there are other variables that I will not be able to control.
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Uh, even in the epic decay, I say that physically there's a lot of people that would be able to do all of the races that I've done.
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If you're adding to the pool of individuals that would be competing, the mantle side, I would say, yes, there are some people, I would say at least more than three that would complete more than the epic decade.
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But because it's the variables that you can't control that made me one of three people to finish the epic decor, or uh some of these races that I've done around the world that or or even all the things that I've accomplished, it's because there are variables I can't control, and I have to be content and understand at that specific moment, this is where God wants me to be.
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Like I went through this difficult time of my life for a certain reason.
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I have to understand sometimes where I need to be, and I don't need to understand why I am in this position.
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For example, I to go do the epic deca, I didn't have the money, and um, I sold my house.
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So I was homeless when I came back from the epic deca.
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And now I was thinking, oh, I'm gonna get fame, uh, I'm gonna be uh known around the world, and I'm gonna get money and sponsorship, and um and none of this happened, none of it happened, and even then I got more negative than positive.
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People were telling me you need to be in a mental institute for what you've done, uh, people were rejecting me.
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Uh, and and there was a lot of pride that came with it.
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And so what I learned after was that the pride had to decrease so that I could be more even prepared to help other people.
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Because if my pride was up, then my guard would be much higher, and I would not be able to help other people, or I would help people in terms of pride, which would just fuel their own pride, and then we would have a well pride square or a pride exactly, and and I think that's I one thing that I I I really like about that is you have to surrender to something that's bigger than yourself.
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And so for me and you, that's easy because you know we're Christians, we believe in God.
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But if even if you're secular, even if you don't believe in God, surrendering to a purpose, if you don't because what I always try to tell people is life incurs challenges, we are guaranteed the challenges.
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It was gonna be hard, it wasn't easy.
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And if you aren't pursuing or striving or building towards something, this is gonna be a miserable drive.
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It's gonna it's gonna be a pretty hard life.
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And you know, so that that's uh, you know, especially where you're saying, like, I don't know why I'm doing this, people are calling me crazy.
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I sold my house and took a bet on myself.
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Why?
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Because God told you to, you know, why because your purpose told you to.
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And so, you know, where I I definitely uh am akin to that with where my contentness comes from.
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It's like, you know, uh, I don't know a lot of the reasons why I do some of the things I do, but I just feel God tells me to.
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If it's a purpose in your life, whether it's a political purpose or it's uh uh uh an outreach purpose or whatever it is, if you don't have that purpose, I find you're not going to incur the suffering necessary to actually become a good person.
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Because why are you doing it?
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You know, like life is already hard, you're gonna suffer more uh without a cause.
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That doesn't make any sense.
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Uh so I I I'm happy you did it because you know, again, that's why we have you and and and the fact that you do, and sometimes your your heart leads you to crazy places, and when you listen to it, you can actually be content in yourself because you, you know, I think about what uh Franklin Roosevelt, I think it was Franklin Roosevelt, what he says uh uh in the man in the arena speech, which is like credit is to the man in the arena because he is separating himself from the people who never tried.
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They will live for the rest of their lives not knowing, could I have done it, could I not have done it?
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The person who actually tries, he says, I could do it, I could not do it, and you and now you know.
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There's a and so I think there's a piece to actually attempting and doing the crazy thing because again, JD, you could, you did, you know, and I think that's a beautiful thing.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, and what so now I get contentment through doing meditation, prayer, and uh you also get contentment by for me, it's reading the Bible because uh and for for people that uh don't follow Jesus, uh, it would be about following a certain set of values.
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So understanding your values, which just structure would create a certain form of discipline.
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The way I can frame it is um, and maybe you can tell me more about your point of view on that.
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You were in the military, is that to me when I joined, I was 17 years old, so just a chop, couldn't even buy a pack of cigarettes or drink my own beer without getting it from somebody else, and then I was given a gun, right?
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:16.559
So uh here's the military for you.
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So I thought as a civilian, even as a kid, that as soon as I would join, I would get discipline immediately.
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You're getting discipline, you're getting resilience, and you're gonna be working out, you're gonna be in shape.
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Like, this is the military.
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And so I joined, and little did I know, I looked around, I said, there there's there's a lot of people that are disciplined, and there's a lot of people that are not disciplined.
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And I try to figure out okay, well, what's the problem?
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Like, there are people that are disciplined, not disciplined, like what is the cause?
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So, what I discovered is that the military gives you a structure, it gives you that system.
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If you follow the structure, if you follow the system or those standards, if you follow the standards, then you acquire discipline.
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It's the same, except that the civilian is way more difficult.
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Oh, switching from the military to the civilian, it's it's one of the most difficult parts because they're telling you, oh, you need to separate military from civilian life.
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No, I I it took me years.
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Now you have to merge the two together and understand, okay, I I was a soldier and I will always be a soldier, but I am also a civilian.
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So now you're merging the two together.
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And so now you're creating that structure, you're creating that system.
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But now you're in a civilian, you can do whatever you want.
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If I want to walk a certain way, I'm walking a certain way.
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I don't have someone telling me this is the way to walk.
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I I don't tell, hey, if I want to wear a dress shirt, that's that's what I want to wear, but no one's telling me, oh, your dress shirt is crooked over here, or no one's gonna inspect my bed.
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Or so now what God gives you, or or having this framework where you have values, you're able to be content because you understand that these are your values.
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You're going on a date, the girl doesn't fit the values.
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That's fine.
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I'm content with it.
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I had a fun time.
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It's okay.
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We're just parting ways, and that's it.
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You're on your journey, I'm on my journey.
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You're not a Christian, I'm a Christian.
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There you go.
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You can go on your own, but I will respect my boundaries based on my system of value.
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I will do my best and I will be content when I please my God.
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My God is in the Bible, He gave me that set of rules, He gave me that, so I can gain discipline, so I can gain resilience.
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And then when you look at it from a non-secular perspective or like a person that is not a Christian, then at least if you haven't written down all your values, okay.
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For for me, it's easy because boy, I I I have it written down already.
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Like, well, people died to give me that book.
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It's already written down, like it's like the cheat code of all.
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It's so painful.
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But for yeah, but for people that don't believe in Jesus, well, he he here are all these stories or here are all these stories, or here are the stories that you can make up, or like the value system that you can make up, and then create it based on your stories and your values, enumerate it, look at it, and say, Well, this is what I want you.
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So now you're able to be content because you're living according to your values.
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So I would say pick your values before your goals, which, if you pick your values before your goals, then you can pick any goal that you want, because any goal can become a, in my view, a sin.
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Any goal can become a sin, even as righteous as it may seem to everybody else.
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There's nothing inherently wrong in becoming a doctor, but it's how you get to becoming a doctor, and it's all the things that you're gonna be doing.
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So there's nothing wrong with it, but it's the values before the goal, and that will lead you to be content.
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I I think that's really well put because especially what I what I think you're you're really drawing to is an authority structure.
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I report to an authority structure, and in the army it's easy because if you don't make your bed, that guy's gonna come and put you in the front leaning rest, and you're not gonna be able to move until you learn your lesson.
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Um, and so the discipline is is it's right in front of your face, you know, it and it's applied from somebody else, that authority structure.
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When you get out of the military, there is no authority structure.
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You know, most you're not likely living with mom and dad, or even if you are, mom and dad probably aren't going in your room and telling you what to do.
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And so I think that's something to where the ability to for us to say that authority structure is God.
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So this is what's going to drive me and what's going to fulfill me, you know, surrendering to that for us, and you know, anybody who abides by that, the more you surrender to that, I promise you, the more contentment you'll feel.
00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.160
But if you're not a Christian, one thing that I really love, it's a quote from uh Eric Thomas.
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And it's always just rang in the back of my head.
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It's he says, at the end of every principle is a promise.
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And so if you don't have principles in your life that you're adhering to, you're not guaranteed any fruit at the end of this.
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You're not guaranteed yields for all of your hard effort.
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But if I know I'm gonna make my bed every single day and I know I'm gonna be on time to every single thing I do, and I know I'm gonna have a good attitude, and you have these principles in your life that drive you, even if they're not religious, um, those will guarantee you things in your life.
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If you have just those four things we listed, well, you're pretty employable.
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You're probably going to be able to get a job, and that's a thing that lots of people struggle with these days.
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And so I think if, like you said, you need to pick your values before you pick your goals.
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If I don't know my principles and what drives me, then I'm kind of just a bull in a china shop knocking stuff over.
00:27:51.920 --> 00:28:00.799
And I might get something done that I wanted to accomplish, but it's more, it's more often than not going to cause chaos in my life than I am gonna uh make it better.
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:03.440
Yeah, yeah, you're heard.
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Awesome.
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So what was the what was the uh the hardest part for you?
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Because was well, let me let me rephrase this question because I had a distinct transition period where I went from the discipline and structure of the army, and then I went and just sat on my butt and ate as much fast food as I could because I was like, I'm I'm free, I did my work, I did what I was supposed to do, and I quickly was met with the uh realization that you can't do that forever.
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Uh and so I changed course back uh back into a life of fitness, thankfully.
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.599
Um, but that was a distinct period of my life.
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Did you have a distinct transition where you had to kind of set a fire under your own butt to get back into structure, or was it seamless for you?
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Seamless in the sense of moving from one transition to the next, but having different learning curves.
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So going from military structure where you're um or going from yeah, the military structure to the civilian.
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I understood, well, I I want that this is where God wants me to be.
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Um, so I had to pray about it.
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And so the the seamless transition was more through faith.
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So at first it was about uh going from the military to the civilian and not really understanding what I would have to do, or it was more uh I said, Oh god, uh, I need ten thousand dollars just to go to college.
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Like I just need that money.
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Here's on a piece of paper, and I was praying, and then when I stood up, phone rang, and it was this lady, and she said, We we did this claim in the military, and uh we said no, we're so sorry, we made a mistake, you'll have the money in the next couple of days.
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Um we approved it.
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I don't know what happened, and then all of a sudden it was 10,100.
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Like it was just wow, okay.
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So I had to renew my mind daily.
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That's what was happening, is that every every so often I would get these form of ways that God would show, okay, I I still got you, but you still have to do the work that I called you to do.
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So um, again, my pride was was huge.
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Uh I I wanted to again, you you want to leave the military, but you want to be highly successful financially, and you want everybody to love you, and you want everybody, and then you realize okay, God is placing me at that specific moment, that specific state of mind, and I have to perform certain actions based on that.
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And um, that's when I got to the Epic Decca, and it would it was still difficult, I still, but it was at another level to sell your house so that you can go do a race for two weeks to go to Hawaii, and then two weeks later you come back.
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And I was in a in a storage unit, and I remember being on a on an air mattress, using my jacket as a pillow with all my boxes around, sleeping in a in a place that is smaller than under a uh a desk, and thinking, I'm the epic deck of guy, like I finished this.
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Like, do you know who I am?
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And and it was just and I was thinking, uh, this is how I'm going to inspire others, and um that might be the platform for certain individuals.
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It just wasn't the platform that God could use because it is prideful, and so my pride had to break down, my pride had to go out the window.
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Uh, and so it took me a while.
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It took me a while to really just let go and say, okay, this is and even after I let go, it took some time to really build back up to really like now.
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.519
We're I'm doing fine, I have a house, like I'm doing very fine, right?
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:04.079
But but it took a while for for your mind to be renewed.
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And so when the Bible in uh Romans 12, 2, it says to renew your mind daily, uh it is a daily task that people have to go through.
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Your situation might shift in some instance.
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For me, it did when I reached college, then all of a sudden I had that 10,100 boom, but I still had to walk through my own desert, so to speak, to use the analogy of the Israelites in the desert.
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I still had to perform certain actions that would yield a certain result, and uh, people want the magic pill that will get them to the other side immediately.
00:32:45.279 --> 00:33:03.119
Uh, because well, Neil had the choice between two pills and he picked one, and because he picked that one, now he has an unlimited amount of knowledge because you can just have a chip in your brain and do whatever you want, and your entire life has changed like this.
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That does not happen, and there's not a story in the like anywhere that's that everything just changes from one day to another.
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All of these movies are showing, and there's a word for it, it's called a montage, right?
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Which is a French word to say your take or in English, uh, the English word would be montage, right?
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:31.839
Like when you take that in your face, I was thinking, well, he probably didn't get the yeah.
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That's funny, yeah.
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So a montage, right, or in the French way is uh is when you take a bunch of clips and then you're you're just uh putting the workouts of Rocky and not showing that he trained for an entire winter or he trained for an entire year to beat that guy on the ring.
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That would be montage that a lot of people would know.
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And so when you're starting to look at the life, and and you can even look at the Bible that way, you're you're flipping one page and you're going, Yeah, the Israelites were struggling for 400 years, and then you flip the next page, and you're like, Oh wow, there's deliverance right there.
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You're thinking, well, okay, that's that's the very next page.
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So within, so for you within the span of time, you just read 400 years of stories of the Israelites.
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You read the beginning and then you read the end.
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Congratulations! But in your life, it will last every single day.
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And so when I say renew your mind, is uh the Bible, Bible acclaim it, but I I'm saying it right now, is that you have to do it daily.
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Daily, you are to renew your mind on what are your values, so it's not just about being um in a gratitude state, it's contentment is understanding that there are some difficult situations.
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See, I was in a storage unit on an air mattress that I had to fold because otherwise I would not even have a place to write my book.
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That's what I was doing.
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And and and putting my jacket back on so I could go outside because it's cold in Canada, and so uh was I content?
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Well, it was a difficult moment, but I was content, right?
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.880
My pride was saying, no, you're you shouldn't be content.
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But I said, you know what, I am in the position that I am right now, and I will get to that next level when the time comes.
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I will work for that next level, and right now I am working on that next level because we are doing very well as a as a company, we're growing, we're we're expanding.
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:50.960
I'm I'm enjoying it, but I'm understanding that I have this past, I have understanding that well, right now I'm at that stage.
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I can go lower, I can go higher.
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It's about am I in the right spot at the right?
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Yeah, and I think that's so important where you say renew your mind daily, because you know, especially when you're renewing or uh, you know, reset, like reset the board is almost what I like to say, where you remind yourself that life is not gum drops and rainbows and lollipops, and that it's actually pretty challenging and there's a good deal of suffering that you're gonna have to begin to become content with.
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And if you know, when you when you can reset your eyes on the fact that, oh, the suffering was embedded in, I was going to suffer as part of this, you can begin to take it on lack of a better word, take it on the chin or rationalize it better.
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Because when you tell a story, you know, as incredible as yours, where it's like, you know, I'm having these personal battles in my head all the while, you just did one of the most incredible things and you're living in a storage unit.
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:54.000
And if you can't come to terms with the fact that this was going to be hard, this is going to be a decision you have to make daily.
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Um, and even in the midst of making that decision, your life probably isn't going to get immediately better, but you need to make the decision anyways, daily.
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And I think that's something that gets so lost on people because they think, like you said, it's like something's gonna come from on high, where as soon as I have this one thought or I do this one thing, all of my stresses will just go as far as the east is from the west.
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And that's never happened.
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I I have to renew my I have to I have to dedicate myself to whatever principle, my faith, whatever it is, every single day, or I'm gonna start buying my own lies unless I reset myself on what is actually true.
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:41.039
Um, and I just to touch on what you said, you know, because I think it's it's it's really interesting that you brought up uh the Exodus where where uh the it where the Israelites were were fleeing Egypt.
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Um, and there was a lot of despair.
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And in the midst of them having freedom, they were starving and hungry and and like this is hard to talk about, but a lot of them wanted to go back to Egypt because that's how much suffering there was.
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That's how hard it is to wake up, bear your cross daily, and do the right thing, to fight for your own freedom, to f to purchase like your ability to do things in this life.
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:11.840
Um, and I I just think about that often where it's like, imagine they turned around, imagine they turned around.
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You have to you have to stay driven, you have to stay faithful, you have to understand that the suffering is yours.
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There, that there was always going to be a degree of suffering, and I have to make a decision every single day, whether it's within myself or in my meditation or whatever it is, I have to rededicate myself to what matters, or I'm gonna turn back to Egypt.
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:32.800
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:45.280
So it's about putting a clear path as to where you want to go, where are you right now, understanding the facts by lying to yourself, you are not helping yourself.
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:58.159
If you are overweight and you want to lose weight, then you have to be understanding this is where I'm at, this is where I want to be, and I'm honest with myself, this is what I want.
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:03.760
If you are uh to me, I left the military, I had no education.
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:09.679
The the the okay, yes, saving people's lives is fine.
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:16.880
Like you're a diver, there's no transferable skills, like skills like from a military okay.
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:17.440
Yeah, there you go.
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.679
You're right, you're doing basic training, okay?
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:24.960
And then uh they hand you a gun and then they say, Well, here you can take it apart and then go shoot down the range.
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:26.079
Okay, is that transferable?
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:26.960
None in Canada.
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They remove our guns.
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There you go.
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.159
So, what about what's next?
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:30.880
Well, there you go.
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.719
Uh, here's a gas mask, and uh go into this room and you have to put it under nine seconds.
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:37.360
Like, what?
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:38.880
What even a subway?
00:39:39.199 --> 00:40:19.440
You really think that I'm gonna go and put this on my resume and say, No, maybe I'm gonna have some weird twisted LinkedIn way of twisting it and say, uh, I am able to go under pressure into rooms that are like okay, thank you, but they're not hard transferable skills where I was an electrician and now I am an electrician in the civilian, and and very often, even in the military, they um very often they they train you in the military and then they forget the civilian part, so that you when you transfer to the civilian, you have to go through courses and training anyway.
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.599
So uh you're transferring from one to to to the next.
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:30.559
There will be challenges, and um, to me, I I went through every single one of them, right?
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:36.480
Going from the military to the civilian and not even having any transferable skills.
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So I wanted to go back, and God had no had cut that that barrier.
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:45.119
I would say that's why God, you know, it's not written in the Bible.
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That's my assumption, is that that's why God made them cross the Red Sea, is because again, uh they can't go back, they understand there there's no going back.
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:56.559
What are you gonna do?
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:57.760
Start swimming.
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Oh, there might have been that one guy, that one epic decade guy that's like, Oh yeah, I'm going back to Egypt and maybe sweat that, right?
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:20.960
But like you, but most people are again not putting it in uh a clear paper and saying, Look, this is where I want to go.
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I have faith that I can achieve that, it's realistic.
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You have to make a goal that is realist.
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That's my goal realistically.
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What can I do?
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That's why people hire coaches, that's why people hire other individuals that have been in these shoes.
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Is that they you look at it and you say, Look, this is my um daily faith.
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.000
I want to achieve this goal.
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:45.760
Is this achievable?
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.920
And you look at him and you say, No, no, it's not.
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:57.039
So the worst coaches, the worst coaches out there will look at you and say yes, and then just take your money, and that's it.
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:58.639
Those are the worst coaches.
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:10.719
The so the worst thing, and I mean, to me, it was a blessing, a blessing that well, it was a bad family life, so I was rejected, and then I was rejected at school, so bullied.
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:11.679
It was a blessing.
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:12.320
Why?
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:19.360
Well, because I did not attach myself to critic criticism, like that critical side that others have.
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.239
I just understood this is for them.
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:24.639
So I joined the military, that's it.
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:25.679
Was it hard?
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.159
Yes, because you're going into the military.
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.639
I did not want to go in the military, like at all.
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:31.360
At all.
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:32.800
I was 17 years old.
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.880
I I why why would I want to go in the military?
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.119
But again, this was my my choice.
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:43.519
I I preferred to go in the military than to go in the street, so that was pretty much it.
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:50.639
Or get in debt into a degree that I did not even know what I really wanted to do, I did not have any backup plan.
00:42:50.880 --> 00:43:00.480
So I said, okay, military it is, but then moving from the military to the civilian is the same concept, it's constantly improving and improving and moving forward.
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:08.320
So the advice I would give everyone is to have a clear step, okay, and make it definitive.
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:19.920
So within the next one year or two years, I will achieve X goal, I will have faith that this is what I want to achieve, and then you read it daily.
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:27.760
If you read that, we're not just talking about some weird affirmation of think positive, everything's gonna be positive in your life.
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.559
I don't believe in this, I don't at all.
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:31.039
Why?
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:37.920
Because if I think I'm going to lose weight and I think I'm gonna lose weight, no, if I don't do any action, I'm not gonna lose weight.
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:39.840
Like that's that's that's the end goal.
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.559
You have to perform certain action in between.
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:47.679
Understand there's the mindset between it, but you have to make it clear to your mind.
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:48.880
You have to make it clear.
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:50.000
So, how do you do that?
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:58.480
Clear, definitive goal within a time frame so that your brain understands oh, oh, I don't have five years or 10 years to achieve that goal.
00:43:58.639 --> 00:43:59.519
I know that within that.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.679
Yeah, I have to achieve it.
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:12.400
And because your brain is built, like your entire body, by the way, is designed for survival, then you are designed to get that hunger, which you mentioned, that purpose.
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:13.920
That purpose comes.
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:25.920
Uh purpose is the byproduct, essentially, because you're you're essentially using uh your you're you're picking your goal, which you already pick your value, by the way.
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:31.599
You pick your goal, you enumerate it, you say, okay, I'm going to finish it within a set time frame.
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:44.159
And then by trying to achieve it because of survival, then you end up finding that purpose that you were built for, because your brain is designed to achieve that.
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:45.760
Like you have to survive.
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:46.800
So you're going to achieve that.
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:49.119
You're wired to survive.
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:53.039
And the the other thing that I always try to remind people is you're wired to adapt.
00:44:53.119 --> 00:45:01.760
You're supposed to be able to take variables, you're supposed to be able to incur the circumstances that life is throwing at you and be like, maybe I can't do an hour and a half workout.
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:03.599
Is 45 minutes actually okay?
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:04.239
Yes.
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:08.800
So many people end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater on so many things.
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:18.800
Um, and you know, where you're where you're my one of my favorite things where you're saying is you know, the importance of of being real with yourself and setting that goal.
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:28.400
Because if I set some kind of crazy goal that I can't hit and then I'm demoralized and quit because I'm not gonna hit my goal, um, I only have so much time on the turf.
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:33.760
And and you know, you said you said think about uh these where I'm going, think about the goal.
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.480
Another thing is too, if that's not working, think about the consequence.
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.360
Everybody pays the piper eventually.
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:46.480
And if I continue to furlough my payments, eventually the piper's gonna come and knock on my door and he's gonna say, Where's my money?
00:45:46.880 --> 00:46:07.440
And and if you again, if it throughout your life you've been making payments, you've been doing a little stretching, you've been doing a little meditating, you've been doing some working out, and you've been doing what you're supposed to do, then when whatever, whatever, whether it's old age and just aging, or maybe you have an injury that occurs, this isn't gonna be as drastic because you did what you were supposed to do already, and the payments not gonna be as bad.
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:14.880
But if you did nothing and you continually put yourself in this cycle of 20 years of saying it's gonna be different, it's gonna be different, it's gonna be different.
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.840
Well, the only thing that needs to be different is the decision making.
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:23.679
Because if you don't change the decision making, start making payments to the piper, eventually it's you're gonna be in a position where you can't.
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:40.400
And whether it's you're dealing with the issues of aging or you know, uh some people, you know, whether it's I'm 55 and I never cared, cared about my health, and now I'm overweight and I can't use half of my muscles, and now my organs are failing, and now I don't feel like I can actually do anything about it.
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:42.320
That is my friends is the piper.
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:50.559
And and you know, so if you're not positively motivated where it's like I want to do great things with my life, some of us just want to live.
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:58.000
Some of us just ex and like you know, exactly what you're preaching, JD, which is like this contentness, like to be okay with just existing in my life.
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.760
Well, if you're not doing the things you're supposed to do, that that will get taken.
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:13.280
And I think that's an important thing for people to remember, especially as you know, I I'm sure there's I'm sure if you did the statistics, I can't imagine the health outcomes for for young men and ladies coming out of the military is great.
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:21.119
I can't uh with all the nicotine that that gets pushed on them, with all the energy drinks that gets pushed on them, with all the bad dietary habits that gets pushed on them.
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:34.320
I have so many friends who got out and I love them, and I and I but they have to be real with themselves and they have to put that fire under their own butts and say, Hey, I worked so hard for five years, but I've kind of stagnated for the last 20.
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:38.239
And if I don't start doing something now, uh my I I can kiss the life goodbye.
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.800
And I I think we should all be on board of convincing our friends and peers not to do that.
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.159
Yeah, that's what love is, right?
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:47.280
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:56.559
So yeah, you should get your coach or someone uh in your circle that challenges you and loves you enough to tell you, yes, you're in the wrong direction here.
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:04.719
Yeah, and I know I've lost a lot of friends as a result of telling them that what they were doing was wrong.
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:12.719
I totally understand, but I prefer to live this life but not be responsible for being a part of their decay.
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:20.880
And you don't have to be a you know, one one big thing that I think of too is you know, when you these people are in a decay, are you assuming that I've never been in a state of decay?
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:25.840
Like that's what these people are acting like you're saying when you're trying to stuff like, hey, I I have decayed before.
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:32.079
Like I'm trying to help you not do what I did, and and it just they never they never seem to see it.
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:33.760
I think it comes from a place of shame.
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:35.840
There is no reason to be ashamed, you know.
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.800
We, you know, especially from our outlook, we're told to come as we are.
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:40.639
We will be changed through the process.
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.000
And if you continually come, you will be rewarded if you seek it out.
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:52.320
And so, you know, if you whether you know your shame is coming from, oh, I'm overweight and I don't think I can do it, or I've never worked out, I don't think I could do the epic defka.
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:53.760
Did I pronounce it right?
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:55.599
Perfect.
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:57.360
Uh, I don't think I could do that.
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.800
And you know, honestly, honest to God, JD, you're incredible.
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.880
A lot of people probably can't, because it takes a lifetime of work.
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:17.519
And if you do not start where JD started, where this is where I'm saying these winds we have windows in our lives, and the window will eclipse, and you will wake up at 40, you'll wake up at 50, you'll wake up at 60.
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.679
I'll say, Man, I wish I had some principles.
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:26.800
Man, I wish I listened when they said you need to have your values first, because otherwise you're gonna wither away and and be just like everybody else.
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:33.679
And I, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with being everybody else, but I think most of those people are too ashamed to admit they need help.
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:35.440
And and they could be great.
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:40.639
And I and I think, yeah, that that's just one thing I wanted to mention because we because we mentioned a lot a lot of flaws today.
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:42.239
And it's like you don't have to be ashamed of them.
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:47.920
You know, we all have flaws, I have flaws, I have things that I struggled with that threw me off, especially getting out of the military.
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.599
You know, we talked about overeating.
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:58.159
Um, it's really easy to get swallowed up by these things, but if you're not honest and real about addressing them, then then uh you're gonna have a hard time.
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.320
Yeah, so I'm glad that we disagree on that.
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:01.599
Uh that's good.
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:02.000
Yeah.
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:04.159
Yeah, yeah, we disagree on that for sure.
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:08.159
Because I think there needs to be some uh level of shame.
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:14.480
Uh about like I I am ashamed of certain behaviors that I did when I was in the military.
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:21.679
Uh, the level of caffeine that I ingested, uh, that was ridiculous.
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:22.639
Ridiculous.
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:29.679
You go on watch and then you take in an excessive amount of coffee, or um, and I'm ashamed of it, right?
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:42.159
But it's understanding that well, I'm I'm I have so much shame that I I I'm sharing it with people on a podcast, I'm open about it, and I don't want to go back to that that stage, right?
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:57.039
And I think that by adding a certain level of shame, understanding I'm not I'm content where I am, but I'm not going to be satisfied, is where people should be.
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:03.679
Anyway, and and again, it's it's in my views because again, I am ashamed that I finish fifth.
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:04.159
Why?
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:23.280
Because I am I I know, and I I said it earlier, I know that I pushed business and other aspects of my life, which are important as well, but I know that I did not do my workouts completely at 100%.
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:31.679
And because I did not do it at 100%, say I think the the fourth was a minute or two in front of me.
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:41.360
Because of all of these workouts that I was cheap with, I could have really pushed that extra two minutes.
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:46.880
I understand that the first one was I think half an hour in front of me.
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:49.760
So I understand that I would have not been first.
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.400
Okay, so at least there's that okay.
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:58.480
Whether I finish that cycling or that the product, oh, I pushed a little bit more today.
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.079
Oh, definitely I'm gonna finish first.
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:03.119
And I'm gonna knock off half an hour on my on my half marathon.
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:03.840
Yeah, okay.
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:06.960
I I I understand that concept, right?
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:19.360
Like I I but at least I understand that I would have been probably fourth, if not third, and at that third level, then at least I would have been the because the the third and fourth were in front of me.
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:20.960
I could have pushed harder.
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:26.480
Now I gave my all in the race, but it's all of these workouts leading up to it.
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:27.760
I know I messed up.
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:33.920
So there's that that understanding that I am such ashamed that I want to change myself.
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:36.719
So um, same concept for Christianity.
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.679
I am such ashamed of my sin.
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:44.559
I am dirty that I want to repent and follow that authority.
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:46.639
So there needs to be that level of shame.
00:52:46.800 --> 00:53:10.639
Now, uh, back in the day, someone would um um now again, I'm not advocating that we need to go back to that stage, but uh, if someone would behave inappropriately, uh, according to how everyone viewed uh God's word, which might have been right or wrong, we don't have to get into that debate, that person would be shamed, shamed into the city.
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:15.760
Their business was not uh growing because uh they were they were ashamed.
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:28.960
So we need to to uh again have that level of shame, but use it in a way that has uh an action being driven out of that shame.
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:37.440
So um the way I can explain it is there is um negative to negative, negative to positive, and then negative to constructive.
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:40.320
So something negative somewhere happened in your life.
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:40.880
That's it.
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:41.360
Okay.
00:53:41.679 --> 00:54:02.000
Uh for me, uh, one of my best friend at Special Forces, we uh we served uh uh together uh multiple uh places and and love the guy very much, but he passed away and he took his life and he said, Okay, well, there you go.
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.239
I'm throwing it away, right?
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:11.280
So he died, left his kids, his wife, and um like now I went to the funeral.
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:12.480
Show up at the funeral.
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:14.800
Now that's something highly negative, okay.
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:20.400
And you can use anything that is negative in your life that happened for me, it was coffee or something like that, right?
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:21.840
Like you can pick any anything.
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.519
So I'm using this example.
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.119
So uh he uh analyzed himself.
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:28.079
That's negative.
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:33.280
Now I could have used it and said, okay, negative to negative, so I start drinking, right?
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:35.599
That's that's that's a negative to a negative.
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:44.239
It's still solving the situation in some capacity because yes, I am not thinking about it, but I'm numbing it, okay.
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.519
Uh which which is a form, right?
00:54:47.679 --> 00:55:03.280
Then I can use it in terms of uh negative to positive, which a lot of people are doing, where I say he died, but uh here's all the great things, here's all the and I'm switching everything, but changing a negative to a negative is uh just amplifying the situation.
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:11.280
Negative to positive is changing, uh it takes a lot of energy because energy can be created, can just be transferred.
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:19.199
And so by transferring it, there is some loss somewhere, and uh so now you're going from negative to positive.
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:25.280
Now, again, for him, uh for for me, it was negative to constructive.
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:31.599
And so what I did was um we I went to an event, I was at the funeral, and then there was an event.
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:38.880
He was known around the world for being one of uh uh the only male that swam that straight twice.
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:54.000
Uh it was like a 17 kilometer, so what is that, like 11 miles of swimming and tides and shit, like tide shift, uh current shifts, sharks, cold water, and so I took a crew, took a team, and then I swam that straight.
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:58.559
Now just once, but not like you know, he he he's the only one that swam it twice.
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.000
So we raised$65,000 for chronic illness kids to go to someone.
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:19.119
Not to put back the spotlight on JD, but more on okay, this is how I use a highly negative and like event that I don't think would trigger anyone to go into something that is constructive, right?
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:27.840
And so for him, what happened is that um the the reason why he went downward spiral is because there was no shame.
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:40.960
For him, he was accepted in that uh in that environment that again he created, he definitely created it, and his wife knows it, uh, everybody knows he created that.
00:56:41.039 --> 00:57:02.559
That now, again, that might have been from the it is uh definitely from the military mindset and the right, he developed some things, some mindset in the military, and when he transferred from the military to the civilian, but because of the lack of shame and and uh he again analyzes himself.
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.519
So the way that we can do it is okay, you know what?
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.480
I am not in the state that I want to be in.
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:12.880
I am not in the like I want to be an uh an engineer.
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:13.519
That's it.
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:17.199
Well, to become an engineer, you need to have a certain level of schooling.
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:17.760
There you go.
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:18.559
Is it difficult?
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:18.880
Yes.
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:19.840
Will it last long?
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:20.159
Yes.
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.639
I put on a piece of paper, this is what I want to do.
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:24.079
I'm not at that level.
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:26.719
Now, is it shameful that I am not at that level?
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:28.719
I could have started a long time ago.
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:30.639
I could have started when I was 17 years old.
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.519
And if I look back, I'm thinking, uh, I wish I would have started a long time ago.
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:37.039
I wish I started.
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.840
Well, that's still a certain level of shame.
00:57:40.000 --> 00:58:01.199
But instead of looking at it from a negative to a negative, saying, Oh, I should have started when I'm 17 investing in uh income properties, all of my money in the military, and now I would have at least 10 complex buildings, and I would have done instead of looking at it this way, you're looking at it from I'm ashamed of what I have done.
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:04.159
However, here's what I'm gonna do from now on.
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:24.880
I am not going to do and partake in this type of behavior, and then I'm gonna use it in a way that is constructive, so not negative to negative, that's the easy route, and it will yield some negative results, and then not negative to positive because that's very difficult, and you're still numbing regardless.
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:34.400
You're still numbing from negative to constructive, you're numbing it in a way where you're gradually pushing a positive outcome and using that.
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.400
You can use it in a breakup as well.
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.440
I've used it in breakups, I've used that mindset as well.
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:39.760
You know what?
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:40.880
I'm going through a breakup.
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:46.480
What can I do to channel that energy and use it as a catalyst?
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:52.159
And you see this nowadays with a lot of uh kids, uh, mainly many guys.
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:57.199
Uh the guys go through a breakup and then they say, Oh, I'm gonna get real thick.
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:04.719
Well, that is a form of way of saying I am ashamed of what I did.
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:19.519
I had a relationship with that individual that did not align with my values in the first place, which you should have just listened to uh David's podcast, and then you wouldn't have made that mistake, but okay, we won't harp on it.
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:31.119
That's awesome, and then you get your values, and and you you were ashamed of of that behavior, and now you have a choice.
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:38.159
You can say, Oh, I miss her so much, I'm just gonna go back home and start drinking my life away.
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:45.119
And there are these guys that are drinking their life away, and I'm saying, Okay, well, aqua can be any other type of numbing, right?
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:53.440
Some guys they just go into uh into work, they just go, go, go, go, go into work, and then you just forget about reality and growing.
00:59:53.599 --> 01:00:05.360
Now, there's nothing wrong with going to work, or there's nothing wrong with having a glass of wine or drinking alcohol, there's nothing wrong, it's the excess of it and why you're doing it.
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:11.119
That is the the wrong part, the lack of self-control that ensues with it.
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:22.320
But there is that shameful part that yields a constructive, which then that guy goes to the gym and starts humping iron and then understands, whoa, I feel great with it.
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Wow, what did I do?
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Well, here's the the recipe.
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What you did was you transferred something negative, which you're ashamed of, and then you transferred it to something constructive.
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So having a certain level of shame that yield a result, okay, not in terms of uh shame towards negative.
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The reason why we are saying shame or shaming others is wrong, is because oftentimes what happened is that we are shaming people or shaming ourselves, and it yields that negative result.
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So you shame someone and then they go and start, right?
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You're fat.
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Okay, and then they start going and binging, right?
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So that's why there's this negative connotation.
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If you shift that mindset and you say, Okay, I am and and when I say I'm fat, for me right now, as an ultra triathlete, I am overweight.
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I understand that I'm overweight.
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That's because that is my standard.
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Why?
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Because my standard as an ultra triathlete is you have to lose as much weight as possible while still being functional and so different levels.
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Well, if I consider myself right now as it is, as bigger or fat, okay, that is me.
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That is me now.
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What will I do with that level of information?
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Will I use it in a constructive pattern?
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Yes.
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Why?
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One, I'm using it on a podcast to say I am at the moment right now ashamed of my body.
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But what will I do to yield a constructive result?
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Not a positive result to say, well, my my body is fat according to my standard as JD, but I have nice hair, or right, which is positive.
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Exactly.
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So, or changing from a negative to a negative, saying, Well, you know what?
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There's nothing I can change, or I've tried everything, or all sorts of excuses again to yell the negative to a negative.
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I can say, Here, I'm going on a podcast, I'm ashamed of my body right now.
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I will train, I will be better because I want to be at that level in my life.
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That's where I want to go.
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Why?
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Because when I look at my piece of paper, that's the type of body I want, that's the type of mindset that I want, that's the type, that's the goal that I want.
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And based on my value as a Christian, well, here it is.
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I'm the temple of the Holy Spirit.
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I don't want the Holy Spirit to come into that type of temple where I'm undisciplined and on the lack of self-control.
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I don't want that.
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So, therefore, based on my standard, then that's where I'm gonna head, right?
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So that's where we would differ based on shame.
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Again, different types of ways of looking at it, but yeah.
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And I think that's why it's super important that we hash out the conversation because in the middle of it is a great uh lack of a better word, construct in dealing with the shame.
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So where I say, Hey, uh, because where I fear is that people paralyze themselves more than they move forward because people don't have the ability to practice what you just said.
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Um when they do, because this construct is here and it's never wrong.
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If you can take your negative and you can turn it into a construct where you say, I'm going to slowly work it into something that's in my favor, and I'm gonna be disciplined and diligent and do everything I need to do, that will always yield fruit for you.
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Um, and so I think that's why it's really important to have the conversation because where my brain would have said is you know, make sure you're being nice to yourself, make sure you're not shaming yourself.
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Um, so that way you're not paralyzing yourself.
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But even better than that, if you can have a hard conversation with yourself where you say, I'm not gonna lie to myself and say I don't feel the shame, and I'm gonna address it.
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Well, how do I address it best?
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Well, now you have the format.
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I take this negative, this thing that I hate or resent or that is ailing me, and I slowly uh bend it into my favor.
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I think that's uh that's like the Marcus Aurelius quote where he says, uh, the meaning of life is taking uh taking the the hand that life deals you and playing it as if it as if it were your own.
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And uh you know, sometimes it's not gonna crack out the way you want it to, and you have to you have to change it.
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You know, it it's it's up to your mentality.
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But awesome, awesome.
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Well, then I think the the next place that we'll go then is what have you drawn from your military career?
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So reorient it back to our prompt.
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Uh so from your military career, um, what were the things?
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Because you said you were 17, you came there, you you felt like you were gonna seek discipline and that discipline was going to happen to you.
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Uh, and then you got there and half the people were disciplined, half the people weren't.
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Um, what were the things that they taught you?
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Because I find that I have certain things in my life where it's like if I did not learn that in the army, I'd be screwed.
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I'd have no luck uh in terms of generating that discipline on my own.
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For example, I work out almost every single day.
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Why?
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Because I did in the army because it's important.
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Because if you don't, you're not war ready.
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And then my brain, you know, you don't age well, you don't age gracefully.
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Um but what is there anything from your military career that has shined through and has helped you um in terms of your discipline, or have you totally started from scratch?
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Well, you yeah, you never start totally from scratch for sure.
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Um yeah, it's it's definitely the structure.
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So if you have a structure and systems in place and also the mission, which I talked about earlier, so you have that mission, right?
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For for the military, it's a mission for the civilian, it's just a goal, right?
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You're going to do another race for them or for the civilian, it's uh just another race.
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But for me, I'm looking at it as okay, if I don't finish this race, if I don't prepare well, if I this is a battle plan, like I mean I make sure that this mission is complete, and so uh there's the mission aspect, and then there is the uh structure and the systems in place.
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You need to set standards for yourself.
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This this structure needs to be in place in order to acquire a certain level of discipline.
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Awesome.
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I I wholeheartedly agree.
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Um, I think the thing that I agree with most is the mission.
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You know, for me, I'm mission-oriented.
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You know, when I lose my mission, I become a derelict.
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It is not good.
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That's why it's so important I meditate every day.
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Because if I don't, then I lose sight of things.
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Um, yeah, JD, it is important to set a goal, it is important to aspire.
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Where are you going?
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Where is your next goal?
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What are you striving for?
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Do you have anything on your horizon?
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For me, yeah, we're growing the company right now, and uh we are also expanding our philanthropic ways, so that's where we're heading right now.
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Uh, in terms of race, I don't uh I just finished the Trail Half Marathon World Championship, but otherwise, uh, I try to give back to the communities and uh help out as much as possible.
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And uh yeah, that's that's what I am doing right now.
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Gotcha.
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Perfect.
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Well, JD, I love this conversation.
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I don't have anything left to ask you.
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I think we covered a lot of corners, and instead of putting us both through this awkward thing where we try to extend it for the nine minutes we have, we might as well just call it a good product.
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Uh, but did you have anything you wanted to say?
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Any questions you wanted to ask, anything you wanted to mention?
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Um, please feel free.
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I I want to make sure you have time to.
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Well, the only part that I would uh say is be serious what you want in life, to be very direct with what you want and ones and to add your values.
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Uh definitely be serious about your values, right?
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If you are a Christian, be serious about Christianity.
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Yeah, right.
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Even God says I don't like a He hates a lukewarm Christian, right?
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So uh you are to be serious about everything.
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Yeah, if you want to work out, be serious about your workout.
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This is this is life as a as a whole, so be serious about it.
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Beautiful, beautiful, yeah.
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I I completely agree.
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Be serious about it, have your mission, have your structures in place when you're dealing with shame.
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Don't paralyze yourself, turn that negative into a construct.
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This has been a great conversation, JD.
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Um, I will make sure that all of your links and bios and your website and everything will be properly attached.
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Um, but yeah, it'll be attached down below if you're watching on YouTube.
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And yeah, I hope you guys have a fantastic rest of your day.
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And uh yeah, we'll see you soon.