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How are you doing today, I'm doing night.
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How are you doing?
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Absolutely fantastic, Very excited to share a conversation with you
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because you have done something with your music here that
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is very I mean it's like bringing so many different
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genres together inside one song.
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Yeah, that's what we're looking for.
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So it's so it was an exploration.
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Then of course.
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Yeah.
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Does that mean that you were sitting in your own
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studio and you were just sitting there practicing new ideas?
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Yeah, you know, we we were really happy with our
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last record, but we wanted to do something, you know,
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a little you know, more of a reach, something that
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was a little bit more modern.
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And it's frustrated because sometimes when you want to do
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something that is cutting edge, by the time it comes out,
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it's no longer cutting edge. So you have to really
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you have to really plan that out, you know.
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Well, you blend everything so well together. I mean, it's
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every single piece is covered here, and it doesn't sound
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like it's being all crunched up in all anything. I mean,
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you get to go back into that song each time
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and here's something new.
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Yes, that's great. That's great to hear because that's what
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I do too. But yeah, there's something for everyone. I
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think a little bit of something you could connect to.
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I think as long as you have ears, you'll like
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it exactly.
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In fact, when I was listening to the music, the
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first thing I thought was, oh my god, I could
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totally hear this on an adult top forty radio station
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because Evan Essence got their place. So should you, guys.
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Yeah, I mean that that sounds great. I would love to,
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you know, kind of explore some of that.
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Well, what invited you to add that electronic sound right
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there in the very beginning, because I mean that really
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pulls you in. That to me is one of the
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songs hooks.
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Yeah. Well, I'd have to give credit to Travis Neil,
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our singer. He's got a pretty big appetite for that,
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and when he brings that to the table, you know,
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more often than not, we're all for it. So we
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love that edition.
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I chuckled with the video because I mean, where you
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guys did that video is every place that most bands
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would like to do it, way way way out in
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the country, in your own little world, creating your own sound.
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I know, I know it was a little playground there
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for a day. I mean, it wasn't as fun as
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it looks. It was really really hot that day. It
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was over one hundred degrees. Yeah, and we had just
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played a big show the night before, so we were hurting.
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And then you know, to get out there in the
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heat and start working because we were up against the
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sunrise the sunset. I mean, you know, there was a
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clock for sure, and you know, we could have kept
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filming all day, all night, but we didn't have that time.
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We didn't have that luxury, so we had, you know,
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a bus ass out there and make it happen.
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Who's the songwriter the lyricists, because I mean, you guys
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are using some great words here that really pull the
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listener in.
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Oh. I definitely say Travis Neil, but Nolan he's our
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second singer. We have two singers in this band. That's
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another cool thing that I think a lot of people
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you know, have an appetite for as well, because you know,
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they harmonized so well together. The writing process is very similar,
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you know, Well, obviously each person would lay out a
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part and then we sit down together when we record it,
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and things change and morph, and it's a beautiful thing
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to witness.
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Having two singers like that, that's got to be phenomenal
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on stage because that means I mean, that means they
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don't the lead singer doesn't have to have the whole
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entire thing on their shoulders. They can just sit there
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and pass it back and forth.
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Oh man, he barely takes a breath though. These guys
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are I'm telling you, these guys are overlapping each other
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in harmonies that you know, it's really entertaining to see.
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It's a great live performance.
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Speaking of live, one of my favorite things to do
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at a concert is who watch the guitarists and their fingers?
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How are you keeping your fingers in shape? Mind? God,
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you move those things.
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Well, I believe it or not. I had surgery on
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my wrist about a year ago, actually a year ago today,
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So it's been a long healing process for me as
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a bassist. Yeah, you know, and with that type of music,
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you know, it's it's a lot of work, but man,
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it's fun.
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Being the basis though, I mean that means you you've
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got to have harmony with those drums as well. How
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do you how do you guys build that up together
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and and just remain so so faithful to it?
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I would say, because Fred and I used to live
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together friends and amazing drummer are your roommates. And I
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learned a lot from him during the pandemic, just you know, writing.
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That's what we did during the pandemic, Him and I,
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we lived together, and we wrote a lot of these songs,
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the foundation to them, so I know what he's going
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to do before he does it sometimes, So that's why
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I'm able to stay in time with him and lock
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in as much as possible.
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Who came up with the with the spelling of the
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of the band's name, that's very attractive. You can brand that.
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Hopefully we can get some branding that really sticks with people.
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That's what we're looking for. So the ex they're in
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the center. I think we all came up with it.
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It was a group text and we were going back
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and forth. We had probably you know, the typical situation
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where a little history before that though, if you don't mind,
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we were before that. We were a band called a
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hero within before the pandemic, and then when the pandemic hit,
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we kind of felt, you know, a turning of a page,
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a bookend, so to speak, and so we thought, what
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better way to you know, refresh this that a new sound,
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These new songs are sounding different the ones we're hearing today,
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you know, So we just thought a new name was
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also fitting. But we wanted to do something that was modern,
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and we all agreed that we wanted to do one
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word because that's something we had never done before, you know,
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and any of our previous bands. So that was a
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challenge because I'll tell you what, if you try to
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find a band name or try to create a band
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name online nowadays, it's harder the name and a child
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because every every name that's been thought of is out
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there with four different spellings, you know. So man, it
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was really tough to find something that wasn't taken. Even
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if it was taken ten years ago, it's still taken,
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you know. So that was very challenging. But we laid
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it on on that one and everybody liked it. It
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took a while for I think our fans to catch on, yeah,
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but I think nowadays we've succeeded in that and we
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haven't had anyone mispronounced it yet. So that's a.
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Big building a song, Blackhart.
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I mean, what was the process, like, I mean, did
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you go into the studio and put down the drum
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tracks first, and then build it up around that absolutely.
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Yeah. Well, the recording process, yeah, but the writing process.
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We all wrote to get that song together. It started
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as a riff by SD and we really wanted to
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we really wanted to utilize the seven string guitar on
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this record. So this was the song where we first decided,
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let's start writing, let's change our tuning, let's change our instruments,
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you know. And so it started with the seven string
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guitar and that gave it a lot of depth, and
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then the drums just fell into place right there in
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the writing room. And then of course we recorded Fred.
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We went to Studio West in San Diego. It's the
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most beautiful studio we've ever been to, and Fred knocked
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everything out of the park in two days. I mean
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some of this stuff was like you'd have to witness
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to even believe it was.
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It was great.
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But yeah, and then once that was there, I mean,
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you can't ask for a better foundation for a song
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than one where Fred has tracked, you know, a really
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real professional drummer who knows what they're doing, you know,
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and a real professional engineer who really knows how to
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capture that and what Mike's to use, and man, from there,
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it was just off to the races.
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I could totally hear this song in a movie. Not
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about that I've heard that.
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Yeah, I would love that. That would be That would
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be the ultimate achievement. But even if it was just
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the beginning or ten seconds in the middle of a
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love scene or something whatever, I think it would be
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cool just to say you've crossed that one off the list.
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Oh yeah, that in video games, dude. I mean that
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seems to be where everybody's discovering their music nowadays.
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Hey, there you go.
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Yeah, so it would be great as we enter a
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new season of festivals, are we going to see you
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on those lists.
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We're submitting right now? But we don't have any news
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to share about that yet.
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Okay, okay, So people can just go to the website
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and keep up to date.
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Yeah, our website primarily our Instagram probably has the most
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daily updates.
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What about merchandise, you guys pushing that.
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Yeah, we we have some great shirts. We need to
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order some new ones because we just sold out all
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of them. And we also make our own hot sauce
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and sell that. So every show you go to, there's
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our latest hot sauce and some of our fans come
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there and they just want to get the new one.
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They want to know if they use them or collect them.
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But there seems to be a lot of people want
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to get that hot sauce, so we have that going
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as well.
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Hey, the grateful dead people, they wanted those bears, so
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therefore people collected those things. We'll do the hot sauce.
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Get that hot sauced good. Yeah, dude, you got to
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come back to this show anytime in the future.
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The door is always going to be open for you.
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Yeah. I would love to. I'd love to get some
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of the other guys in as well.
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Absolutely, we'll do that.
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Man.
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Will you be brilliant today? Okay, you got it.
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How are you doing today, I'm doing night.
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How are you doing?
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Absolutely fantastic, Very excited to share a conversation with you
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because you have done something with your music here that
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is very I mean it's like bringing so many different
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genres together inside one song.
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Yeah, that's what we're looking for.
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So it's so it was an exploration.
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Then of course.
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Yeah.
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Does that mean that you were sitting in your own
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studio and you were just sitting there practicing new ideas?
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Yeah, you know, we we were really happy with our
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last record, but we wanted to do something, you know,
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a little you know, more of a reach, something that
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was a little bit more modern.
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And it's frustrated because sometimes when you want to do
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something that is cutting edge, by the time it comes out,
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it's no longer cutting edge. So you have to really
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you have to really plan that out, you know.
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Well, you blend everything so well together. I mean, it's
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every single piece is covered here, and it doesn't sound
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like it's being all crunched up in all anything. I mean,
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you get to go back into that song each time
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and here's something new.
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Yes, that's great. That's great to hear because that's what
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I do too. But yeah, there's something for everyone. I
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think a little bit of something you could connect to.
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I think as long as you have ears, you'll like
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it exactly.
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In fact, when I was listening to the music, the
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first thing I thought was, oh my god, I could
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totally hear this on an adult top forty radio station
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because Evan Essence got their place. So should you, guys.
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Yeah, I mean that that sounds great. I would love to,
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you know, kind of explore some of that.
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Well, what invited you to add that electronic sound right
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there in the very beginning, because I mean that really
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pulls you in. That to me is one of the
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songs hooks.
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Yeah. Well, I'd have to give credit to Travis Neil,
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our singer. He's got a pretty big appetite for that,
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and when he brings that to the table, you know,
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more often than not, we're all for it. So we
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love that edition.
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I chuckled with the video because I mean, where you
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guys did that video is every place that most bands
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would like to do it, way way way out in
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the country, in your own little world, creating your own sound.
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I know, I know it was a little playground there
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for a day. I mean, it wasn't as fun as
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it looks. It was really really hot that day. It
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was over one hundred degrees. Yeah, and we had just
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played a big show the night before, so we were hurting.
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heat and start working because we were up against the
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sunrise the sunset. I mean, you know, there was a
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clock for sure, and you know, we could have kept
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filming all day, all night, but we didn't have that time.
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We didn't have that luxury, so we had, you know,
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a bus ass out there and make it happen.
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Who's the songwriter the lyricists, because I mean, you guys
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are using some great words here that really pull the
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listener in.
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second singer. We have two singers in this band. That's
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another cool thing that I think a lot of people
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you know, have an appetite for as well, because you know,
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they harmonized so well together. The writing process is very similar,
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you know, Well, obviously each person would lay out a
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part and then we sit down together when we record it,
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and things change and morph, and it's a beautiful thing
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to witness.
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on stage because that means I mean, that means they
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don't the lead singer doesn't have to have the whole
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entire thing on their shoulders. They can just sit there
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and pass it back and forth.
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Oh man, he barely takes a breath though. These guys
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are I'm telling you, these guys are overlapping each other
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in harmonies that you know, it's really entertaining to see.
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It's a great live performance.
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at a concert is who watch the guitarists and their fingers?
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How are you keeping your fingers in shape? Mind? God,
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you move those things.
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my wrist about a year ago, actually a year ago today,
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a bassist. Yeah, you know, and with that type of music,
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you know, it's it's a lot of work, but man,
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it's fun.
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got to have harmony with those drums as well. How
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do you how do you guys build that up together
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and and just remain so so faithful to it?
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together friends and amazing drummer are your roommates. And I
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learned a lot from him during the pandemic, just you know, writing.
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That's what we did during the pandemic, Him and I,
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we lived together, and we wrote a lot of these songs,
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the foundation to them, so I know what he's going
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to do before he does it sometimes, So that's why
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I'm able to stay in time with him and lock
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in as much as possible.
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Who came up with the with the spelling of the
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of the band's name, that's very attractive. You can brand that.
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Hopefully we can get some branding that really sticks with people.
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That's what we're looking for. So the ex they're in
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the center. I think we all came up with it.
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It was a group text and we were going back
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and forth. We had probably you know, the typical situation
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where a little history before that though, if you don't mind,
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we were before that. We were a band called a
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hero within before the pandemic, and then when the pandemic hit,
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we kind of felt, you know, a turning of a page,
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a bookend, so to speak, and so we thought, what
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better way to you know, refresh this that a new sound,
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These new songs are sounding different the ones we're hearing today,
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you know, So we just thought a new name was
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also fitting. But we wanted to do something that was modern,
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and we all agreed that we wanted to do one
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word because that's something we had never done before, you know,
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and any of our previous bands. So that was a
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challenge because I'll tell you what, if you try to
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find a band name or try to create a band
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name online nowadays, it's harder the name and a child
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because every every name that's been thought of is out
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there with four different spellings, you know. So man, it
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was really tough to find something that wasn't taken. Even
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if it was taken ten years ago, it's still taken,
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you know. So that was very challenging. But we laid
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it on on that one and everybody liked it. It
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took a while for I think our fans to catch on, yeah,
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but I think nowadays we've succeeded in that and we
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haven't had anyone mispronounced it yet. So that's a.
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Big building a song, Blackhart.
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tracks first, and then build it up around that absolutely.
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as a riff by SD and we really wanted to
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we really wanted to utilize the seven string guitar on
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this record. So this was the song where we first decided,
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let's start writing, let's change our tuning, let's change our instruments,
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you know. And so it started with the seven string
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guitar and that gave it a lot of depth, and
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then the drums just fell into place right there in
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the writing room. And then of course we recorded Fred.
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most beautiful studio we've ever been to, and Fred knocked
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everything out of the park in two days. I mean
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some of this stuff was like you'd have to witness
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to even believe it was.
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It was great.
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you can't ask for a better foundation for a song
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than one where Fred has tracked, you know, a really
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real professional drummer who knows what they're doing, you know,
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and a real professional engineer who really knows how to
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capture that and what Mike's to use, and man, from there,
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it was just off to the races.
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I could totally hear this song in a movie. Not
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about that I've heard that.
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Yeah, I would love that. That would be That would
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be the ultimate achievement. But even if it was just
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the beginning or ten seconds in the middle of a
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love scene or something whatever, I think it would be
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cool just to say you've crossed that one off the list.
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Oh yeah, that in video games, dude. I mean that
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seems to be where everybody's discovering their music nowadays.
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Hey, there you go.
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Yeah, so it would be great as we enter a
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new season of festivals, are we going to see you
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on those lists.
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We're submitting right now? But we don't have any news
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to share about that yet.
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Okay, okay, So people can just go to the website
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and keep up to date.
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Yeah, our website primarily our Instagram probably has the most
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daily updates.
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What about merchandise, you guys pushing that.
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Yeah, we we have some great shirts. We need to
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order some new ones because we just sold out all
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of them. And we also make our own hot sauce
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and sell that. So every show you go to, there's
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our latest hot sauce and some of our fans come
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there and they just want to get the new one.
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They want to know if they use them or collect them.
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But there seems to be a lot of people want
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to get that hot sauce, so we have that going
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as well.
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Hey, the grateful dead people, they wanted those bears, so
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therefore people collected those things. We'll do the hot sauce.
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Get that hot sauced good. Yeah, dude, you got to
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come back to this show anytime in the future.
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The door is always going to be open for you.
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Yeah. I would love to. I'd love to get some
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of the other guys in as well.
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Absolutely, we'll do that.
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Will you be brilliant today? Okay, you got it.
