Two Duos, Three Trios,Two Quartets And A Quintet 8 Albums Released Now From Ben Goldberg

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are you doing, Ben Man? I have been waiting to
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talk with you because I just think you're onto something
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that's so amazingly creative.
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Oh, thank you. Happy to talk with you as well.
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What is this journey been like? Because when it comes
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to music, we all bump into those that you know,
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they think I'm the big star, I'm this, I'm that,
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But you've actually come up with a plan, a concept,
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and execution. You really go the full gamut here when
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it comes to music.
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Well, I try to create music every day. Oh and
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you know, over the years, like a lot, I have
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accumulated a number of recordings that I needed to release,
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so I figured just why not release eight of them,
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eight albums, all on the same day.
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I'm so glad that you said the number eight because
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in studying you, the number eight seems to be your
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angel number in the way that I mean number eight
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means abundance, personal power, balance, as well as karma. That's
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a big number in your life.
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Man, It's a big number in my life because I
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was born on eighth eight, Oh my God, and I
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was named with eight letters of my first name and
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eight letters on my last name. So from an early age,
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I kind of figured that eight was my number.
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Do you follow that along? Because I mean, I'm one
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of those people. I believe in numerology. I believe in
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everything that's connected to it, because we're just the passer by.
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Everything around us is Hey, they're knocking on our shoulder.
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To create, create, create.
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That's what that's that's my mission in life is to create.
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I'm playing my clarinet every day, and I'm writing music
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every day and recording a lot of music and performing
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for people every opportunity that I can.
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And I agree with you. I feel like I feel like.
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We're the conduits of knowledge and understanding and wisdom. And
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for me, music is the way of hopefully connecting with
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other people and participating in that knowledge and wisdom with them.
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What is up with the orchestra in the way that
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I mean? Because I create and I work with other
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people who are in their high school orchestras. In fact,
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they recently just performed with the Charlotte Symphony, and I
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bring it up to them about how amazing that success was.
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But it seems like every time I run into somebody
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band that's part of that orchestra, the clarinet, or even
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the tuba, they're so humble. What is it about that
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music department that makes people so humble?
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Well?
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I think that.
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To be a musician you have to be very honest
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with yourself because every day you're facing the question of
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like what do I need to learn and how can
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I go about trying to learn it for myself? And
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so it requires an honest assessment of your own situation
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and your own abilities and your own knowledge, and then
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and then a realistic approach towards to how to get better,
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how to learn, how to increase your skills.
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So musicians are very honest people.
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Yes, Yeah, when you step into that pair of shoes.
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Are you being the listener when you go back and
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check out the music, or are you being the perfectionist,
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because I mean it seems like we both carry that
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those same genes in the way of I want to
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be the listener, but I also have to be the professional.
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Absolutely.
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Sometimes it takes me more than twenty years before I
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can actually hear the music and something that I've recorded
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because of exactly that thing, because at first, all I could,
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all that I can hear is what I wish was different.
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You do something on this that really is just this
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is the kind of stuff that when I was growing
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up in the seventies and eighties, I would go to
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a music store and I would search for everything that
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you're offering. I mean, what you've laid out here for
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anybody who just loves fantastic music the duos, the trios,
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the two quartets, and a quintet. I mean, once again,
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we're back to the number eight. But the thing about
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it is, though, is that you don't seem to be
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afraid of exploration.
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Exploration.
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I am. I am sometimes afraid of exploration, but I've
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also found that even though exploration induces a certain type
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of fear. The only way to succeed in creativity is
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to step into that situation.
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That's scary. You've got to step into that situation not
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knowing exactly how it's going to.
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Work out, but trust that you've got the skills to
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deal with when you find it.
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Don't you love those moments though, being when something is
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you put it down, or you record it, or you
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just listen to it, and then all of a sudden
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you have to make that choice do I stick with
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it or do I put it in something else of
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the future. Because it seems like music these days is
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something that someone did twelve years ago or even fifteen
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years ago, and it just happened to come back up today.
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Uh huh.
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Well, you know one thing I think we can we
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can say is that is that music that's created in
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the moment, with sincerity and conviction and skill, it never
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sounds old. I mean I spend a lot of time
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myself listening to the music of Lewis Armstrong. Yes, and
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that's one hundred years old now that those recordings, and
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they sound as fresh as ever, and they sound as
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meaningful as ever.
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And isn't it odd though as a child we would
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look at our grandparents saying you're listening to what. But
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yet as adults, we're all going, oh, I can't get
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enough of Louis Armstrong. I can't get enough of I mean,
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it's just so bizarre. I'd like to know where that
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line is that we crossed, where all of a sudden
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we begin appreciating music and not just listening to it.
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Yeah, I hear you.
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Well you could you could say that maybe there's something
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going on in the mind that's like a mirror. Like
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as many years as you've lived since you were born,
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now you now have a perspective on how short of
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a distance it was to that many years prior to
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your birth, so that you can start to appreciate the
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world that seems so distant and so impossibly gone and
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in the past, you start to appreciate the fact that
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that was actually fairly recently, but fairly recent to the
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time to the moment that you were born.
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Yeah, speaking of appreciating here's something that we got into
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this because I'm a martial artist and my master always said,
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if you don't know the past, you don't know the today,
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and so and so, in doing research on you, I
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want to know who Rosario is and then because that
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relationship with Rosario or what you got your inspiration from,
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led you to Joe and Steve. And that's the part
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of the music story that listeners never never take the
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time to go listen to because it took a lot
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for Ben to be in this moment. Well, now share
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the story with me.
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Yeah, And like you evoked your relationship with your martial
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arts master.
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And I think that one thing that's.
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Clear is that is that real wisdom and real knowledge
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is transmitted from person to person. So I kind of
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had a sense of that when I was young, and
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I searched out the best teachers I could find, and
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one of them was because I knew I needed to
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learn how to play the clarinet, So I studied with
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Rosario Matseo, who was dating from the nineteen twenties. He
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was one of the top clarinet teachers in the whole world.
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All the top clarinets and all the symphony orchestras came
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to study with Rosario because he had developed teaching techniques
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to help people solve.
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The problems that are inherent in the clarinet.
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And so I knew I needed that type of apprenticeship
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in order to become the clarinet's that I wanted to be.
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Please don't move. There's more with Ben Goldberg coming up next,
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eight albums released simultaneously on his birthday eight eight. Oh yeah,
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he's got a fascination with the number eight. Let's get
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back to that conversation with Ben Goldberg. Do you have
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those moments though, that when you go into the studio?
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That is because I know that what I do, those
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that have inspired me. I'll have pictures of them right
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there at the door, and I'll stand at the door
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and I'll go, please go in there with me. Do
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you have those moments as well? Or am I just
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being a freak?
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No? No, No, that's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing.
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You just mentioned you got to take your features with you, Yes,
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you got. Those are your people, Those are your spirits,
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those are your angels, Those are the spirits that are
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going to help you in your life.
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Because listeners don't understand what it's like to even push
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play and record when it comes to music, because you
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know that's authenticity and you know that whatever happens in
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that time that you're recording, oh my god, you either
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accept it or you hit, play and record again.
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That's right, that's right.
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Well, you know we're involved in it's like a tightwire.
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It's like walking on a tight wire. Because I was
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just talking with some colleagues of mine last night and
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we were saying that that it's unless there's the possibility
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of failure, you're not gonna succeed. You're only going to
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succeed to the extent that you that you expose yourself
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to the possibility and the reality of failure. Are you
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that's how it works?
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Are you making your music available for movies? Because I
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swear to God, when when I hear your songs, each one,
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I feel like, oh my god, I can totally hear
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this in a movie starring Johnny Depp. Oh my god,
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here's one right here. Oh this would be a good
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one for this actor or this actress. I mean, you
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really bring some drama and emotion to every frickin piece
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of music you have.
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Dude, Yeah, well that's I mean, I'd be very happy
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if anybody got interested in my music for movies. But
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I think you're touching on something that's super important to me,
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which is emotion, tenderness, a beautiful melody, and telling a story.
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Through a song, even if there's no lyrics in it.
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You know, I think it's a song needs to tell
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a story. You know.
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You bring up a very interesting point, and damn me
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for being this naive to it. And that is is
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that I always ask these musicians, Oh, you know, when
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you're singing that song and you pour so much of
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your soul into it, what is it like for you
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to recover? I have never asked a clarinet champion that
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what is it like for you to put your soul
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inside that music anstrument? Because it has to move through
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you first.
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Ben, That's right, Yeah, the music, the music moves through you,
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and you know, hopefully you know, as a clarinetist and
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probably from instrumentalists, there's a high barrier because there's.
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All the technical.
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Things that need to be dealt with in regards to
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interacting with the instrument.
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But the hope and the goal is.
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To is to move beyond that so that those things
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become invisible in the moment of playing, and then you
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can and then you can just deliver a beautiful melody
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or the song the way you hear it.
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And when you're able to do that, that's a beautiful feeling.
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For that musician that's sitting in the front seat of
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their car or at work right now and they're checking
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out a podcast because they want to grow with their music,
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but they're so afraid to release it to the real world.
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What do you say to them, Because once they release
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the song, all they're ever going to think about the analytics,
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the analytics, who's listening? How long did they listen? How
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do you break that habit in the way of saying,
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just get it out there.
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Well, I think that you could say that in some
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ways our world has become a little bit distorted in
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the sense that people understand that that's a purpose that
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a musician might have for releasing some music is to
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gain some attention for themselves.
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And I think we need to go back to the.
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True model, or the earlier model, or the true reality
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of music and musicians is that the musician is performing
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an act of generosity by giving music to the listener.
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That's what's happening essentially.
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maybe a little bit too much emphasis on what am
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I going to get from music? If I put up music,
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what's going to come back to me? And I feel
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like if you can concentrate on what do I want
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to give to people. I want to give them my
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best I want to do my best job. I want
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to express my vision of beauty. It sets things right
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for the musician. It's like I've you know, if I've
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done that to the best of my ability, then I
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don't really have to worry about being judged or what
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people might think, or even whether how much money is
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generated from the music.
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I got to tell you. With the rock band a
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collection of music that you've got right there, I sat
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there experiencing it, going, my god, I would love to
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hear him you explore this even more into a state
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of prague, or to go into the avenue of keeping
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it right there at because I just I feel something
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in your music, and it's like, how do you go
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out and really kind of express how important his steps
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are in this modern way of bringing real music forward.
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You ain't copying anybody, dude. I mean, you've really got
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your own thing going on here.
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When I was young, there were people that I really
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wanted to copy, but I couldn't do it.
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Yeah, but I tried. But like most.
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Musicians, like you start off with a model of somebody
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that maybe you want to emulate. But what that leads
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you to more and more is your own thing. It
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leads you to your own sound, your own world of music,
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And that's the way that it should be.
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That's how it works.
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I can still relate with that because I was in
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this teenage rock band that I eventually wrote a book
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about that took thirty two years to publish. What happened
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was is that in looking back now hindsight, we had
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one guy there that loved Ted Nugent, another guy that
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liked Johnny Cash, and then you got me who like
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John Denver. No wonder we didn't get along, But if
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I sit back and listen to you, Ben, yes, you
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can get along. Just respect each other.
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Just respect each other and creates a situation where everybody
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has room to be themselves.
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Yeah.
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God, where can people go to find out more about you?
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Because I want them to experience your expression with all
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eight of these and I want them to really sit
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down and pull it in and really and and be
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creative on your own platform, in the way of listening
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to the music and let something move through you.
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Yeah, well, you can go to band camp. There's bag
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production records on band camp.
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I think it's called.
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Benny Goldberg Bag Production Records band Camp, and all the
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records are availed on band camp. Also, all eight of
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these albums are going to be up there on your
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favorite streaming platform on August eighth. So if you're a
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subscriber to Apple Music or Spotify or Title or c
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Buzz or anything like that, you're gonna have the opportunity
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to listen to all of these albums starting on August
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the eighth.
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Well, you and I, well, of course it's August the eighth.
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Oh my god, eight eight, Oh my god. And which
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is your birthday?
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Dude?
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That's right, eight record, Oh my god.
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You and that number eight, So that means honesly, I
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got to get the eighth day, eighth month, everything. So
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you can come to Charlotte so that we can have
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eight an eight course dinner here in the South.
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I'll join you. You name the date, maybe next next
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year on eight eight.
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Oh my god.
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We do have something in common, and that is that
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you and I have both performed at bar mitzvahs. We
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know that once you survived not one bar mitzvah, but several,
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that you've got yourself prepared to take on any crowd
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anywhere in the world, because I think that's such a
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great training ground for anybody who is creative, because it's
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about serving everybody who was there.
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Definitely, definitely plus as a musician playing music at bar Mitzva's,
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I feel like I really got my chots together in
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the minor mode.
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I learned how to play in the minor mode.
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Absolutely, please come back to this show anytime in the future,
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and by god, if you get on tour and you
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come to the Carolines, we've got to get together for
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some face to face time.
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Absolutely, I agree, absolutely great talking with you.
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Will you be brilliant today?
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Okay, mister Ben, Okay, thanks so much.