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Speaker 1: We're taking on big money, we're taking on billionaires, we're taking on bullies, and we are delivering.
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Speaker 2: For the working people of New York City.
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Speaker 3: All the site is on the ballots, pts are on the balloting, Ice is on the ballance. And we had a world to win.
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Speaker 2: Because we fight.
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Speaker 3: So you had three socialist Mom Donnie backed candidates win against more establishment Democrats in primaries in New York City yesterday. And I normally think these you know, somewhere in America ad race people. I don't know, their issues are way overblown in terms of being national stories. But three democratic socialists beating incumbent democrats has got to mean something.
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Speaker 4: And in some of the cases, like.
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Speaker 3: The one woman who won, she believes Night one to eleven was America's fault.
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Speaker 4: She's a Muslim woman.
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Speaker 3: She believes nine to eleven was America's fault because of our system of capitalism, racism, white supremacy, and Islamophobia. You got this other guy, Goldman who lost. He got kicked out of a coffee shop. Dan Goldman got kicked out of a coffee shop in Brooklyn because he's a Jew and took money from Apak, the Israeli lobby honest might be the same person as one of the others, but is for abolishing prisons. I mean, some crazy, crazy stuff. What does this all mean. Well, let's talk to Gary Dietrich, who we often talk to whenever we talk about politics. Gary, Welcome to the Armstrong you get you show.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Jack, good to talk to you again, buddy. And yeah, I think you're onto something here, Jack. I mean, this is starting to get to be this whole sort of democratic socialist maybe truly to call a wave, but it is certainly a trend line. And believe me, a political walker are watching it closely, most importantly those inside the Democratic Party itself and Mondonnie, too many people, you know, Okay.
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Speaker 2: An outfire in New York City, whatever.
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Speaker 1: But now you've got three members of Congress who presumably and by the way, all three of these just because you hadn't mentioned this, but I know you're aware of this, are so democratic leaning. These people who won these primaries as Democrats, they almost certainly are going to be elected, you know, to Congress, and there's going to be three votes that Democratic leadership is going to have to deal with in the House caucus.
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Speaker 3: Right, and if it ends up being really closely split. I mean, I think the Democrats will have control, but if it's pretty close like it has been, as we know, three votes can make a big difference, can hold up legislation and you got.
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Speaker 1: It, absolutely and and Jack, they can exert a lot of leverage. I mean, that's what we've seen with Mike Johnson trying to corral all his Republicans, right, I mean, it's three, four or five votes blocked together can say well, listen, you know we're going to block this legislation unless you put this through.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot that can happen.
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Speaker 1: And of course, the biggest concern, I know you and Joe talk about it, is the biggest concern amongst Democrats is what does.
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Speaker 2: This mean for the rest of us? Right? In other words, do we get you know, sort of called tarred and feathered.
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Speaker 1: With this, and are they going to force us to make votes that we don't want to have to make back in our districts. I mean, there's so many implications of this. You get on something else I think that is really interesting about these racist Jack and that is these underlying issues. For example Goldman, Yes, you mentioned he's a Jew, but so is his opponent. But the problem was Goldman, as you rightly pointed out, took money from the Israeli lobby.
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Speaker 2: The whole israel.
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Speaker 1: Support factor is becoming a real litmus test for or against inside the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 3: And I don't remember which one of the socialists that won, but they put up Ha King Jeffries on the screen and the crowd booed, They booed the guy that's most likely going to be Speaker of the House here pretty soon.
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Speaker 1: Well, and you rightly pointed out, I mean this, The thing to me that was perhaps the most telling.
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Speaker 2: About each of these races is that the you call.
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Speaker 1: Them the democratic establishment HACKEM jeff Jeffreys. You're you're right, quite possibly going to be Speaker of the House, Kathy Hockel, Governor of New York. In one case, even Attorney General Letitia James endorsed one of the candidates.
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Speaker 2: And so you're.
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Speaker 1: Talking the full weight of New York politics against these upstarts socialists and the Democratic Socialists. One. Now, admittedly you know AOC Bernie Mamdani were behind these candidates, but you're beginning to see the beginnings of something inside the Democratic Party that apparently is not just a flash.
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Speaker 2: In the pan.
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Speaker 1: Is not going to go away, and it's going to be a challenge for them to do. By the way, one of these incumbents of loss was the actual chair of the Congression, Hispanic Caucus. Right, So these aren't people who are just no names that got beat. These are people with oh and Goldman by the way, an heir to the Levi Strauss fortune, which you know, you could say, well, that really helped them in terms of campaign final Yeah, but you heard in those leading comments that you played jack. You know, billionaires aren't playing well right now amongst certain elements of the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 3: Well, he ran the impeachment against Trump. You'd think he'd anyway. Oh So, Mark Kaupern is writing in his newsletter today that this kind of reminds him of the Trump takeover of the Republican Party, that the establishment Republican Party ignored a lot of discontent in the Republican Party until it got, you know, blindsided by Trump. And he makes the point that if the Democrat the leadership hadn't rigged the system, Bernie would have been their nominee in sixteen and twenty. I mean, they should have seen this coming that's where the energy was. But because so they were like, okay, we stopped already, few no problems here. Well, the problem still exists, the discontent in their party still exists.
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Speaker 1: I think that's a really important point, Jack, that this is not just and this was a problem as you're playing now with the Trump thing. People, Oh, it's just Trumps slash and the pan whatever. No, this had been brewing for a while and the people felt like Bernie was done dirty by his own party and rose in the polls.
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Speaker 2: As you rightly point out, many people thought he could have been the nominee quite easily.
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Speaker 1: But there's been other things that people who are Democrats say, wait a minute, you guys are rigging the game, and you're not listening to us. You're not paying any attention to us because you think we're going to be a net drag on your whatever ability to take control the House.
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Speaker 2: Whatever.
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Speaker 1: But the problem now is this swell has been building, mom. Donnie is the most recent manifestation of it. But again, you put three members of Congress in there who are going to be speechifying every day on the House floor, casting votes, making demands, you know, and in these kind of districts by all accounts, who knows how many times they could get reelected. They could create real challenges because you know what's going to happen, Jack, This now is going to be picked up by Republicans. They see, we told you this is what's coming if you vote Democrats, They're going to try to use broadbrush nationally to really, you know, scare people.
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Speaker 2: And it's saying you want this in your neighborhood. Here's what's coming.
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Speaker 3: Boy, What these two parties look like in ten years is anybody's guests? Where does the working class finally end up? Is the Democratic Party officially the party of college graduates the way the Republican Party used to be?
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Speaker 4: I have no idea.
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Speaker 1: Well, and the thing about New York is I think people need to remember is you know, sort of I try to take a step back at this and look at not just politically but a little sociologically, and say, look, the people that they.
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Speaker 2: Are appealing to.
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Speaker 1: Bernie's constituency is one of his core audiences, as you know, has been young people.
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Speaker 2: But how could this guy?
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Speaker 1: People always ask me, asking me, how could this really old guy attract him? Well, because he's scratching where they're itching he's saying, look, you can't afford to buy a house in New York anywhere in there. You got jobs that are low paying, and so hey, I understand. And the billionaires don't care about you in the wards in a strange way, is your point, now, Jack, There's a similarity between Trump's message of the elite rich people don't care about you and the Democratic socialist message, which in many ways is very similar.
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Speaker 3: So switching gears as we broadcast from California, our governor is Gavin Newsom, and he is one of the leading perhaps candidates to be our next president for the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 4: Coming out of the Democratic side of things.
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Speaker 3: How big of trouble is he actually in the California Post? You know, the New York Post now has the California Post. California Post has had several op eds in a row to make it sound like Gavin and his wife are in actual trouble, like there's an actual scandal there. This just isn't law fair from the Trump Justice Department.
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Speaker 4: What are you hearing?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's important. There's two things I'd say right now about Gavin Newsom. First off, we know, yes, he's been running for president forever. Anybody who lives in California, who even watches California knows that. And he's only got a few more months less to do with his legislative business. And then, as I like to say, he's firing up the twenty eight bus and away they go. But the thing about it is on what you're talking about. Let's just stick for a second on the DOJ investigation, regardless of what is actually there. The thing about the DOJ at the federal level is, you know, Jack, they can wreak a lot of habit, they can call a lot of people, they can do a lot of investigating, and this can take a long time. In other words, you know, beginning of next year, sooner than that. Right after the November midterm election. Here, these campaigns for twenty eight are going to be revved up, and you don't want to be in the middle of what could easily be a year long or longer investigation where it's the drip drip drip of things and this person gets called in and these documents gets appended. That's not what you want, not only for not winning the general election twenty eight, but to win your own primary. And then on the other side, of the things. How about what Paresza carri of CNN came out with.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys touched on it in.
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Speaker 1: The last week ten days, an absolute evisceration of what he called failed governance in California. And as you know, Jack went on for five or six minutes detailing all the issues that too from a well would be considered to be typically a you know, democratic friendly kind of media outlet.
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Speaker 2: That's problematic.
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Speaker 3: So the piece in the California Post today is Gavin Newsom donors landed plumb state posts after shelling out thousands to his packs and his wife's nonprofit, and they've got you know, it's pretty easy because you have to report all this stuff and then you can look at when they got hired. Donors who wrote big checks to Gavin Newsom's political action committees, campaigns and charitable causes, including his wife's, have frequently received a gubernatorial appointments, with some landing influential state posts days after the money arrived. I mean, see he got the check and then you get the job two days later.
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Speaker 2: Well, and it didn't.
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Speaker 1: Help him, as you know, Jack, that his former chief of staff has pled guilty to federal charges as it relates to the misuse of Xavier Besserra, thank you, our new Democratic royal candidate, as you know, going into the fall. So he's already had a chief of staff played guilty. There's just too many planets swirling around his you know, his son right now that you know, are going to cast long shadows.
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Speaker 2: There's no getting around that.
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Speaker 1: And he's been out front, as you know, sort of in many polls either the leader. He's right up there with Kamala Harris and others in the early early polling.
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Speaker 2: But this is going to be used.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be used as opposition research by the dozen or more opponents in his parm ary, let alone in a general election.
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Speaker 3: So I was on a panel yesterday a bunch of big Whig political consultants in Sacramento at a fancy hotel, and I had to put on jacket and everything. Anyway, we were talking about influencers and ai ads and all that sort of stuff, and man, what an interesting area of that is. What is what are the next couple of elections going to look like?
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Speaker 4: You know what?
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Speaker 3: We saw Spencer Pratt pull off where he can get any college kid with a little bit of knowledge of a computer to put together an ad that goes you know, goes viral without spending any money.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is, to me, Jack, the next step of the democratization small deed of our political process. People thought it was a huge deal when all of a sudden president presidential level candidates were raising millions and millions of dollars through tiny donors online. Remember when the online donation thing became a thing and you just didn't sit in smoke filled rooms and have fat cats rest right half a million dollar checks and people like, wow, this is going to really change politics.
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Speaker 2: Well, to me, now, this is the next wave of that.
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Speaker 1: No, you don't have to hire Pratt show this. You don't have to hire massively expensive you know, consultants and pr firms eteera to produce these ads.
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Speaker 4: We'll make an expensive ad buy yeah, and.
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Speaker 2: You throw it up online. Somebody produces it.
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Speaker 1: Those those apparently the Pratt campaign didn't even pay for somebody just made them. So we are we are clearly moving into a brave new world. And of course that doesn't even include all the questions that come to the content of those ads, which with AI it's kind of the wild wild West right now.
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Speaker 3: Although we still recommend you make those major adviys to whatever radio station you're listening to currently, those aren't.
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Speaker 2: Going to go away.
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Speaker 1: And the reason is because the reason is because, as you know, still the largest demographic of people that vote is middle aged to older age people. And yes, those people still very loyal radio listeners.
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Speaker 3: As you know, you just realized, I, you know, handbite, the one that feeds you that whole thing.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to.
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Speaker 3: Watch out for that. I don't even know what I'm supposed to label you as, Gary before I let you go? What are you now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I am a human.
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Speaker 1: I am officially CBS Television's political analysts based in Sacramento, as well as well as Iheartradios, both based out of Sacramental.
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Speaker 4: Good. Good for you, Well, thanks for coming on, appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, buddy, we'll talk soon you met.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the conversation we had yesterday with all these political consultants and everybody's guessing the AI stuff of where it's going is like.
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Speaker 4: Trying to verify what's true.
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Speaker 3: Somebody puts out a really great ad that's full of misinformation and you didn't have to pay him for it.
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Speaker 4: They just made it and it went viral.
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Speaker 3: Is there any stopping that you don't have to have a paid for by the Johnson campaign because he didn't pay for it. And just how's that whole thing gonna work anyway? Lots of stuff on the way, stay here, are you strong?
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Speaker 1: Hey? Getty
Speaker 1: We're taking on big money, we're taking on billionaires, we're taking on bullies, and we are delivering.
00:00:06
Speaker 2: For the working people of New York City.
00:00:09
Speaker 3: All the site is on the ballots, pts are on the balloting, Ice is on the ballance. And we had a world to win.
00:00:20
Speaker 2: Because we fight.
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Speaker 3: So you had three socialist Mom Donnie backed candidates win against more establishment Democrats in primaries in New York City yesterday. And I normally think these you know, somewhere in America ad race people. I don't know, their issues are way overblown in terms of being national stories. But three democratic socialists beating incumbent democrats has got to mean something.
00:00:55
Speaker 4: And in some of the cases, like.
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Speaker 3: The one woman who won, she believes Night one to eleven was America's fault.
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Speaker 4: She's a Muslim woman.
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Speaker 3: She believes nine to eleven was America's fault because of our system of capitalism, racism, white supremacy, and Islamophobia. You got this other guy, Goldman who lost. He got kicked out of a coffee shop. Dan Goldman got kicked out of a coffee shop in Brooklyn because he's a Jew and took money from Apak, the Israeli lobby honest might be the same person as one of the others, but is for abolishing prisons. I mean, some crazy, crazy stuff. What does this all mean. Well, let's talk to Gary Dietrich, who we often talk to whenever we talk about politics. Gary, Welcome to the Armstrong you get you show.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Jack, good to talk to you again, buddy. And yeah, I think you're onto something here, Jack. I mean, this is starting to get to be this whole sort of democratic socialist maybe truly to call a wave, but it is certainly a trend line. And believe me, a political walker are watching it closely, most importantly those inside the Democratic Party itself and Mondonnie, too many people, you know, Okay.
00:02:08
Speaker 2: An outfire in New York City, whatever.
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Speaker 1: But now you've got three members of Congress who presumably and by the way, all three of these just because you hadn't mentioned this, but I know you're aware of this, are so democratic leaning. These people who won these primaries as Democrats, they almost certainly are going to be elected, you know, to Congress, and there's going to be three votes that Democratic leadership is going to have to deal with in the House caucus.
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Speaker 3: Right, and if it ends up being really closely split. I mean, I think the Democrats will have control, but if it's pretty close like it has been, as we know, three votes can make a big difference, can hold up legislation and you got.
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Speaker 1: It, absolutely and and Jack, they can exert a lot of leverage. I mean, that's what we've seen with Mike Johnson trying to corral all his Republicans, right, I mean, it's three, four or five votes blocked together can say well, listen, you know we're going to block this legislation unless you put this through.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot that can happen.
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Speaker 1: And of course, the biggest concern, I know you and Joe talk about it, is the biggest concern amongst Democrats is what does.
00:03:07
Speaker 2: This mean for the rest of us? Right? In other words, do we get you know, sort of called tarred and feathered.
00:03:12
Speaker 1: With this, and are they going to force us to make votes that we don't want to have to make back in our districts. I mean, there's so many implications of this. You get on something else I think that is really interesting about these racist Jack and that is these underlying issues. For example Goldman, Yes, you mentioned he's a Jew, but so is his opponent. But the problem was Goldman, as you rightly pointed out, took money from the Israeli lobby.
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Speaker 2: The whole israel.
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Speaker 1: Support factor is becoming a real litmus test for or against inside the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 3: And I don't remember which one of the socialists that won, but they put up Ha King Jeffries on the screen and the crowd booed, They booed the guy that's most likely going to be Speaker of the House here pretty soon.
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Speaker 1: Well, and you rightly pointed out, I mean this, The thing to me that was perhaps the most telling.
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Speaker 2: About each of these races is that the you call.
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Speaker 1: Them the democratic establishment HACKEM jeff Jeffreys. You're you're right, quite possibly going to be Speaker of the House, Kathy Hockel, Governor of New York. In one case, even Attorney General Letitia James endorsed one of the candidates.
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Speaker 2: And so you're.
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Speaker 1: Talking the full weight of New York politics against these upstarts socialists and the Democratic Socialists. One. Now, admittedly you know AOC Bernie Mamdani were behind these candidates, but you're beginning to see the beginnings of something inside the Democratic Party that apparently is not just a flash.
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Speaker 2: In the pan.
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Speaker 1: Is not going to go away, and it's going to be a challenge for them to do. By the way, one of these incumbents of loss was the actual chair of the Congression, Hispanic Caucus. Right, So these aren't people who are just no names that got beat. These are people with oh and Goldman by the way, an heir to the Levi Strauss fortune, which you know, you could say, well, that really helped them in terms of campaign final Yeah, but you heard in those leading comments that you played jack. You know, billionaires aren't playing well right now amongst certain elements of the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 3: Well, he ran the impeachment against Trump. You'd think he'd anyway. Oh So, Mark Kaupern is writing in his newsletter today that this kind of reminds him of the Trump takeover of the Republican Party, that the establishment Republican Party ignored a lot of discontent in the Republican Party until it got, you know, blindsided by Trump. And he makes the point that if the Democrat the leadership hadn't rigged the system, Bernie would have been their nominee in sixteen and twenty. I mean, they should have seen this coming that's where the energy was. But because so they were like, okay, we stopped already, few no problems here. Well, the problem still exists, the discontent in their party still exists.
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Speaker 1: I think that's a really important point, Jack, that this is not just and this was a problem as you're playing now with the Trump thing. People, Oh, it's just Trumps slash and the pan whatever. No, this had been brewing for a while and the people felt like Bernie was done dirty by his own party and rose in the polls.
00:06:11
Speaker 2: As you rightly point out, many people thought he could have been the nominee quite easily.
00:06:14
Speaker 1: But there's been other things that people who are Democrats say, wait a minute, you guys are rigging the game, and you're not listening to us. You're not paying any attention to us because you think we're going to be a net drag on your whatever ability to take control the House.
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Speaker 2: Whatever.
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Speaker 1: But the problem now is this swell has been building, mom. Donnie is the most recent manifestation of it. But again, you put three members of Congress in there who are going to be speechifying every day on the House floor, casting votes, making demands, you know, and in these kind of districts by all accounts, who knows how many times they could get reelected. They could create real challenges because you know what's going to happen, Jack, This now is going to be picked up by Republicans. They see, we told you this is what's coming if you vote Democrats, They're going to try to use broadbrush nationally to really, you know, scare people.
00:07:03
Speaker 2: And it's saying you want this in your neighborhood. Here's what's coming.
00:07:07
Speaker 3: Boy, What these two parties look like in ten years is anybody's guests? Where does the working class finally end up? Is the Democratic Party officially the party of college graduates the way the Republican Party used to be?
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Speaker 4: I have no idea.
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Speaker 1: Well, and the thing about New York is I think people need to remember is you know, sort of I try to take a step back at this and look at not just politically but a little sociologically, and say, look, the people that they.
00:07:31
Speaker 2: Are appealing to.
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Speaker 1: Bernie's constituency is one of his core audiences, as you know, has been young people.
00:07:37
Speaker 2: But how could this guy?
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Speaker 1: People always ask me, asking me, how could this really old guy attract him? Well, because he's scratching where they're itching he's saying, look, you can't afford to buy a house in New York anywhere in there. You got jobs that are low paying, and so hey, I understand. And the billionaires don't care about you in the wards in a strange way, is your point, now, Jack, There's a similarity between Trump's message of the elite rich people don't care about you and the Democratic socialist message, which in many ways is very similar.
00:08:06
Speaker 3: So switching gears as we broadcast from California, our governor is Gavin Newsom, and he is one of the leading perhaps candidates to be our next president for the Democratic Party.
00:08:20
Speaker 4: Coming out of the Democratic side of things.
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Speaker 3: How big of trouble is he actually in the California Post? You know, the New York Post now has the California Post. California Post has had several op eds in a row to make it sound like Gavin and his wife are in actual trouble, like there's an actual scandal there. This just isn't law fair from the Trump Justice Department.
00:08:40
Speaker 4: What are you hearing?
00:08:42
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's important. There's two things I'd say right now about Gavin Newsom. First off, we know, yes, he's been running for president forever. Anybody who lives in California, who even watches California knows that. And he's only got a few more months less to do with his legislative business. And then, as I like to say, he's firing up the twenty eight bus and away they go. But the thing about it is on what you're talking about. Let's just stick for a second on the DOJ investigation, regardless of what is actually there. The thing about the DOJ at the federal level is, you know, Jack, they can wreak a lot of habit, they can call a lot of people, they can do a lot of investigating, and this can take a long time. In other words, you know, beginning of next year, sooner than that. Right after the November midterm election. Here, these campaigns for twenty eight are going to be revved up, and you don't want to be in the middle of what could easily be a year long or longer investigation where it's the drip drip drip of things and this person gets called in and these documents gets appended. That's not what you want, not only for not winning the general election twenty eight, but to win your own primary. And then on the other side, of the things. How about what Paresza carri of CNN came out with.
00:09:49
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys touched on it in.
00:09:52
Speaker 1: The last week ten days, an absolute evisceration of what he called failed governance in California. And as you know, Jack went on for five or six minutes detailing all the issues that too from a well would be considered to be typically a you know, democratic friendly kind of media outlet.
00:10:11
Speaker 2: That's problematic.
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Speaker 3: So the piece in the California Post today is Gavin Newsom donors landed plumb state posts after shelling out thousands to his packs and his wife's nonprofit, and they've got you know, it's pretty easy because you have to report all this stuff and then you can look at when they got hired. Donors who wrote big checks to Gavin Newsom's political action committees, campaigns and charitable causes, including his wife's, have frequently received a gubernatorial appointments, with some landing influential state posts days after the money arrived. I mean, see he got the check and then you get the job two days later.
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Speaker 2: Well, and it didn't.
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Speaker 1: Help him, as you know, Jack, that his former chief of staff has pled guilty to federal charges as it relates to the misuse of Xavier Besserra, thank you, our new Democratic royal candidate, as you know, going into the fall. So he's already had a chief of staff played guilty. There's just too many planets swirling around his you know, his son right now that you know, are going to cast long shadows.
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Speaker 2: There's no getting around that.
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Speaker 1: And he's been out front, as you know, sort of in many polls either the leader. He's right up there with Kamala Harris and others in the early early polling.
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Speaker 2: But this is going to be used.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be used as opposition research by the dozen or more opponents in his parm ary, let alone in a general election.
00:11:28
Speaker 3: So I was on a panel yesterday a bunch of big Whig political consultants in Sacramento at a fancy hotel, and I had to put on jacket and everything. Anyway, we were talking about influencers and ai ads and all that sort of stuff, and man, what an interesting area of that is. What is what are the next couple of elections going to look like?
00:11:49
Speaker 4: You know what?
00:11:50
Speaker 3: We saw Spencer Pratt pull off where he can get any college kid with a little bit of knowledge of a computer to put together an ad that goes you know, goes viral without spending any money.
00:12:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is, to me, Jack, the next step of the democratization small deed of our political process. People thought it was a huge deal when all of a sudden president presidential level candidates were raising millions and millions of dollars through tiny donors online. Remember when the online donation thing became a thing and you just didn't sit in smoke filled rooms and have fat cats rest right half a million dollar checks and people like, wow, this is going to really change politics.
00:12:27
Speaker 2: Well, to me, now, this is the next wave of that.
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Speaker 1: No, you don't have to hire Pratt show this. You don't have to hire massively expensive you know, consultants and pr firms eteera to produce these ads.
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Speaker 4: We'll make an expensive ad buy yeah, and.
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Speaker 2: You throw it up online. Somebody produces it.
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Speaker 1: Those those apparently the Pratt campaign didn't even pay for somebody just made them. So we are we are clearly moving into a brave new world. And of course that doesn't even include all the questions that come to the content of those ads, which with AI it's kind of the wild wild West right now.
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Speaker 3: Although we still recommend you make those major adviys to whatever radio station you're listening to currently, those aren't.
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Speaker 2: Going to go away.
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Speaker 1: And the reason is because the reason is because, as you know, still the largest demographic of people that vote is middle aged to older age people. And yes, those people still very loyal radio listeners.
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Speaker 3: As you know, you just realized, I, you know, handbite, the one that feeds you that whole thing.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to.
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Speaker 3: Watch out for that. I don't even know what I'm supposed to label you as, Gary before I let you go? What are you now?
00:13:38
Speaker 2: Yeah? I am a human.
00:13:40
Speaker 1: I am officially CBS Television's political analysts based in Sacramento, as well as well as Iheartradios, both based out of Sacramental.
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Speaker 4: Good. Good for you, Well, thanks for coming on, appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, buddy, we'll talk soon you met.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the conversation we had yesterday with all these political consultants and everybody's guessing the AI stuff of where it's going is like.
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Speaker 4: Trying to verify what's true.
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Speaker 3: Somebody puts out a really great ad that's full of misinformation and you didn't have to pay him for it.
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Speaker 4: They just made it and it went viral.
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Speaker 3: Is there any stopping that you don't have to have a paid for by the Johnson campaign because he didn't pay for it. And just how's that whole thing gonna work anyway? Lots of stuff on the way, stay here, are you strong?
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Speaker 1: Hey? Getty
