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00:00:14.753Today, on the American Land Cellar, we're looking at a side of land that doesn't always get the spotlight, but it affects everything from underwriting to land deals to how data gets shared across ag and rural real estate.
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00:00:23.910I'm joined by Corbett Kuhl, a tech entrepreneur with deep roots in agriculture and a track record of building real solutions for the land world.
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00:00:38.947Corbett's the CEO of Camo Ag, a geospatial platform that's helping companies, from lenders to farm managers, to brokers and many more make smarter, faster decisions by actually seeing the land and its data.
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00:00:52.914In context, you're going to hear about how Corbett went from Motorola to the ag tech world, eventually leading 640 Labs, which was eventually acquired by Monsanto now.
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00:00:56.024Bayer and now leading the charge at CamelAg.
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00:01:06.691We're going to cover why spreadsheets and siloed data are holding rural professionals back, what geospatial platforms like Camel Ag actually do.
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00:01:15.844In plain English, how brokers and agents can use this kind of technology to stand out, speed things up and serve our clients better.
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00:01:26.254If you're tired of piecing things together with PDFs or you ever wondered what's actually possible with better land data, this one's really worth a listen.
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00:01:32.152Welcome to the American Land Seller Podcast with your host, kobe Rickardson.
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00:01:37.712Kobe is an accredited land consultant and multi-state land broker with High Point Land Company.
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00:01:59.254Okay, Kobe and our special guests, let's get started.
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00:02:05.087All right, everybody, welcome back to the American Land Seller Podcast.
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00:02:11.381And you know what I'm super excited once again I get the best guests.
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00:02:18.388I tell you, I don't know how it happens for somebody that's in the middle of Nebraska, but, man, this is a tool that I use.
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00:02:23.031So Corbett Kuhl is here with me from Camo.
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00:02:24.625Ag Corbett, how are you today?
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00:02:28.389Doing great Talking to you from beautiful Memphis.
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00:02:31.384I know you're on the road today sitting in.
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00:02:35.013I don't know if you're in a hotel or airport or where you're at.
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00:02:38.062My typical Hampton Inn, Kobe the Hampton.
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00:02:38.907Inn man.
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00:03:04.826You know I am actually just in the between on the road right now, so I got back from Iowa late last night and I'm getting ready to leave for Oklahoma first thing Monday morning, so I know what it's like to be on the road and so I really do appreciate you taking the time in your busy schedule to join us to talk about your amazing platform, camo Ag.
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00:03:07.288Join us to talk about your amazing platform, camo Ag.
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00:03:12.231First of all, corbett, let's start with what was the vision?
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00:03:19.616I guess let's just kind of describe what is Camo Ag to the folks that maybe don't understand what this platform is.
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00:03:41.771So Camo Ag is a land platform.
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00:03:43.832It's also kind of a farmer platform.
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00:03:44.794Some people on the.
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00:04:08.004Where we got started is helping people understand the value of farmland, and now we've expanded into more information about not just the land but also the farmers that are farming the land, helping people that are selling to those farmers just do a better job of working with farmers understanding who they should be selling to.
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00:04:15.564So it's really a tool that's getting used by ag brokers like yourself.
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00:04:19.291It's getting used in the ag lending area.
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00:04:37.142We're used quite a bit by the farm credit system and other ag bankers, and now it's being used quite a bit in what we call agribusiness, which is seed sales teams, retailers, tractor dealerships, tractor manufacturers.
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00:04:40.992So it's really starting to kind of spread throughout the agricultural industry.
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00:04:42.521Yeah, that's.
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00:05:18.829It is really kind of interesting because, like I've you know, like I've joined high point land company last year and these guys were really like full bore with your pro program, with the um, um with one section of the company, with more of the appraisers and not so much with the um with the land sales team, but, um, man, like we were really you guys were able to really show us how you're you can be a benefit to every aspect of of our company.
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00:05:24.264Um, can you just kind of like just let's start at the beginning.
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00:05:26.928What was the of this?
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00:05:36.533When you were first starting up at Camo Ag, like what was the thing that you thought, hey, we were really missing this in the ag space.
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00:05:40.810So maybe let's roll the clock back just a little bit.
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00:05:58.927So I previously had started a company called 640 Labs and we were acquired by Monsanto and with 640 Labs we had a product called the Drive that helped collect data off farm machinery, tractors, combines etc.
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00:06:05.380And allowed farmers to visualize that data, kind of keep track of everything they were doing on the farm.
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00:06:19.959And it was kind of through that experience you know, both at 640 Labs and post-acquisition with Monsanto, that I just discovered there weren't really great data tools on the land side of the business.
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00:06:26.245You know everything from what is a farm worth, what should a farm be renting for.
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00:06:32.249If I am a landowner, how do I keep track of my farm, keep records around the farm?
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00:06:36.331So that's just kind of tools out there that farmers are using every day.
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00:07:02.271You know there's actually a lot of technology there they are using, but there's been less development for folks like yourself yeah, how to help you do your job better and then obviously for the ag bankers and ag salespeople, et cetera.
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00:07:05.870So really just identify that opportunity.
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00:07:08.788Now we roll the clock back really far.
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00:07:11.327I grew up in Southern Illinois.
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00:07:18.146I did not grow up on a farm, but all of my friends or a good portion of my friends were farm kids.
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00:07:33.891I witnessed what happened during the early 80s and some of the challenges that took place in those farm families, so that was kind of my early exposure.
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00:07:39.031My great-grandparents had a farm, but I myself did not grow up on a farm.
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00:07:52.415I got interested, I guess kind of mid or in the latter part of my career in agriculture, really, when I started 640 Labs with a good friend of mine who did grow up on a farm in Iowa.
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00:07:55.685And, you know, fast forward here to today.
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00:08:58.062You know, founder and CEO of KMO Ag yeah that technology that, like I did grow up on a farm, that technology that, like I did grow up on a farm so I joke, you know, like with the farmers and stuff like that that I did it old school where you still had a local producer here that was on the podcast several episodes dive into using not just that data but also sales data and things like that, because our industry has been one of we've really wanted to keep all that data in-house, right.
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00:09:17.892So my sales data as a farm seller, I want to know what the sales is and I don't want anybody else to know, right, and so that benefits me because then nobody else can go to anybody else and you know, hire anybody else to sell the farm and so what.
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00:09:29.145I really love what you guys are doing, and especially in some of those states where it's really hard to find that data unless you go directly to the guy that sold you know 12 of the last 15 farms.
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00:09:53.791You're really opening up the opportunities for guys to go in and and that maybe have better marketing skills to go in and and have a an opportunity in those areas where it's been really rough to do that before, because you have the data, yeah, and I think one thing that's interesting Kobe, you're a good example of this.
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00:09:56.749You cover quite a bit of territory, don't you Sure?
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00:09:57.250Yeah, I do.
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00:10:09.068And having access to the data to be able to make good decisions and to make sure that you're getting your clients, you know, top dollar for their farm.
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00:10:25.751For you to come in and kind of be an expert throughout your territory, it's really dependent upon at your fingertips, at your fingertips, having good sales data so that you can do a good job of helping those clients out.
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00:10:34.341So you know, one of the things I think people don't understand that's fundamentally different about selling farms versus selling houses.
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00:10:37.648There's not really an MLS for farmland.
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00:10:53.813So if you're a residential broker, right, and especially in like a major metro area, well, they can go into the MLS, right, and see every listing, they can see what every house is sold for recently, etc.
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00:11:02.850But in rural areas, especially as it relates to farmland, most farms do not end up on an MLS.
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00:11:06.475There's not a nationwide MLS for land, really.
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00:11:17.269So it's been a challenge, I think, for brokers like yourself to say, ok, I picked up a farm in XYZ County, what are the sales in this county?
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00:11:19.167You know how far back, can I go?
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00:11:29.153So there's fundamentally, I think, some differences between the residential space and if you're a farmland broker or a land broker.
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00:11:37.693Right, well, and not only that, but then to be able to understand, like, even if you do have the data, what exactly are we looking at?
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00:11:48.763You know, and that's another real interesting part of it is, you may have a farm that's sold for, you know, 75% higher than anything else we've seen.
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00:11:49.644You know.
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00:11:52.451So we need to understand why that happened.
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00:12:05.854You know that may have been that love property that the guy next door has been watching for, you know, years, and you know somebody's cousin bid it up at a farm sale because he knew that was the case, or something like that.
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00:12:06.201You know.
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00:12:20.182So I think you know, like I said, love, what you guys are doing, and and especially since you know, data is is the world we live in, and so the more data that we can have, the better off we are.
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00:12:25.769So let's take a quick break and we will be right back.
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00:13:03.993Okay, we're back here with Corbett Coole from Camo Ag.
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00:13:05.623You know, corbett.
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00:13:09.350Like I said, we've talked about this.
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00:13:12.644I am somebody that uses this.
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00:13:14.206I've used it for several years.
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00:13:16.692I think it's a great program.
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00:13:22.466Your guys are one of the best in the world at creating value for your clients.
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00:13:31.265Not only I see them at the, at the expos and stuff like that, or at the conferences that I go to.
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00:13:36.761They always have the time to, you know, geek out with me on what they're up to.
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00:13:42.292One of your best paid unpaid employees, david Whitaker.
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00:13:49.668He's always Unpaid employees, david Whitaker.
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00:13:51.519He's always out there with the latest and greatest on what you guys are up to.
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00:13:55.153He's always fun to hang out with.
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00:14:20.491But talk about how did you guys come up with just continually creating the feature of the week, that kind of keeping the new stuff and even the old stuff in front of your current users, because that's not really something that's inside of today's sales model, right, like Verizon doesn't offer deals to the people that are already Verizon dealers type of deal.
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00:14:21.514Yeah.
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00:14:27.013So first of all, I appreciate you pointing out or calling out David Whitaker.
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00:14:38.631He is a great guy has done an awesome job referring business to us Right, and he does really being an advocate for a Camelag.
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00:14:42.091So thank you, david, great broker.
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00:14:46.123So if anybody's looking for somebody to work with, uh, give, give David a call.
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00:14:49.065Um, you know it's we're.
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00:15:07.477We're constantly looking ways, looking for ways to improve the platform and also, um, help uh really just create more value for our customers, right, and so we're constantly improving the software.
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00:15:10.649I think this is somewhat of a truism.
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00:15:12.626Software is never done right.
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00:15:19.879Right, if you have software that you use that's not being improved, it gets out of date and it gets stale pretty quickly.
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00:15:23.270So that applies to a couple of things, right.
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00:15:27.602Number one, it applies to the features of this software.
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00:15:31.966And then two, especially for you, kobe, it applies to the data.
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00:15:45.835Right, like, we have to constantly be going out there pulling more data into the platform more farm sales, more data layers, auction data, et cetera.
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00:15:57.274So literally every day we're pulling data in from a variety of different sources and automatically uploading that to the platform.
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00:16:06.615So somebody like yourself gets really the full benefit of the most up-to-date data on farm sales, auctions, etc.
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00:16:09.325In terms of features of the week.
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00:16:12.773I wish I could take credit for that.
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00:16:14.625I think that goes to Jesse.
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00:16:25.215On our team, we're constantly adding new features and we don't expect you guys to read a user manual or go to our help center or whatever.
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00:16:32.594So we're just trying to push out these new capabilities to folks and then call attention to them.
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00:16:36.110But we're constantly improving things.
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00:16:37.421You know.
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00:16:42.393One thing I would like to point out is we've made a huge investment in search.
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00:16:53.720Made a huge investment in search because you know like, uh, when a prospective client calls you up on the phone, it's usually something like hey, kobe, I got this farm I want to sell, can you help me sell it?
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00:16:55.363You're like, okay, well, where is it?
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00:16:59.129Well, it's in such and such county.
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00:17:04.862I I'm not exactly sure what road it's on, but, uh, I've been there a couple of times.
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00:17:12.326So then you're on a little bit of a hunt through the woods literally to find the parcel that they might want to sell.
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00:17:15.147So we've made a huge investment in search.
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00:17:20.810So you can search by, obviously, the landowner's name across all 50 states.
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00:17:30.836You can search by mailing address, which normally, if somebody's calling you up, right, you can say okay, well, where does the tax bill go?
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00:17:41.541You can search by section, township and range.
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00:17:47.115You can search by county Heck, even if you just have a partial address or a partial name, usually you can find the parcel that you're interested in.
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00:17:54.413So anyway, that's just an example of a feature that you would think is not that big a deal.
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00:18:05.252But first and foremost, especially if you're a broker, you got to find the parcel that the prospect has called you up on to help you be able to put a value on it.
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00:18:08.369Right Start to put a value on something if you don't know the parcel.
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00:18:15.868So that's just a good example, and we've pushed out a few features of the week, highlights of even the search feature.
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00:18:53.592Yeah, no, and that you know, like that, to me it's just, it's one of those things though it's, it's real easy to get that mindset that once you sign a contract, hey, gotcha, you know, so on to the next sale, right, and it's just, it's refreshing, I guess, just for me to point that out there, that unsolicited feedback, I guess, but that that just a constant reminder to us that are using it that, hey, there's more out there than just probably what you guys signed up for and we, you know, and that just that joy to be able to share with us that that you guys have all this robustness to your platform.
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00:18:56.699So so, kobe one other thing I'd like to point out.
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00:19:03.651I'm sorry to cut you off, no go, and this is.
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00:19:04.252This is a hot button for me.
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00:19:05.857Um, if you have a question, call us, we pick up the phone.
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00:19:09.329You know a lot of software companies don't pick up the phone.
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00:19:10.531We do pick up the phone.
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00:19:14.881Uh, my team may, you know, hate me for saying this, but but I do.
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00:19:25.394Uh, you know customer service and making sure that if somebody does run into a problem or you have questions, email us, give us a call.
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00:19:30.967Heck, give me a call, I will answer the question.
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00:19:33.191I think that's super important.
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00:19:37.756But, in addition to that, the software is never done.
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00:19:40.118We're constantly making improvements to it.
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00:19:48.055But but please don't this is true for whether you're a customer or not a customer Give us a call and we'll walk you through.
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00:19:51.182We'll, we'll help you understand how to use the platform.
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00:19:55.080So, but we're not afraid of talking to our customers.
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00:19:57.073Yeah, I think that.
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00:19:59.140Well, I mean, we've found out, that's true.
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00:20:02.430Brian Reynolds from Nebraska here, one of our agents.
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00:20:16.960He was having an issue with, like, the way the data was coming through and he picked up the phone, called and I think it was just a matter of like, there was some, the data was flipped, the switch was flipped wrong or something, and as soon as it was set up correctly it was.
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00:20:19.654It was amazing how quickly you guys resolved it.
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00:20:31.722And so you know that's very true, Very easy to deal with, and it was within like an hour, I think that we resolved it instead of days.
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00:20:34.036So I can contest to that.
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00:20:48.984You're not lying, Pick up the phone, Ask questions, Don't be mad, Don't go to bed mad, Just get it off your chest so that we can have a good relationship.
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00:20:52.075But let's talk about what.
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00:20:56.382So we use this because we want to make sure that.
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00:20:57.984You know this is just one tool.
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00:21:01.357There's many tools that we use to try and come up with values on properties.
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00:21:06.369This is one of them that we start with because we want to find the comparables.
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00:21:09.317Really, and that's kind of this is my main tool.
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00:21:11.403I want to go find out what's sold recently.
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00:21:14.571I guess that's.
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00:21:23.085That's kind of you know I I build my farm in the in Camo Ag and then immediately I go find the comparables.
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00:21:26.440It also brings in soil datas and all this other stuff.
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00:21:31.923Is that kind of what you guys' main goal was?
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00:21:45.001At least for the land brokers is to try and help us find comparables and get that soil, that land data that came along with it, so we can build a report to help us get that value on the property.
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00:21:50.323Is that kind of what the goal was, or what was the initial idea behind Camo Ag?
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00:21:59.305Yeah, the initial idea was especially as it pertains to brokers, but this also applies to appraisers as well.
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00:22:06.233Brokers, but this also applies to appraisers as well.
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00:22:17.863You know, being able to, at your fingertips, identify the comps, the comp sales, the farms in the vicinity of the, let's say, the subject property that you're trying to do a broker's opinion on is very important, right?
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00:22:19.732Not all farms are created equal.
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00:22:27.981So let's talk about how you choose from your comparable farms, or how you choose the comparable farms.
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00:22:32.301Well, one thing would be size, like how many acres is a property?
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00:22:34.869Another thing would be percent tillable.
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00:22:48.617So obviously, we've got our parcel layer and our farm layer, which allows you to carve the parcel up into production and non-production land, so that helps you put a value on a farm.
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00:22:51.778You mentioned soils.
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00:23:00.224Obviously, there's a big difference between high-quality soils and lower-quality soils.
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00:23:03.878There are other things, such as flooding.
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00:23:06.815Right, are we talking bottom ground that floods every other year?
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00:23:09.961Is the property well drained?
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00:23:15.682And then, obviously, the crops that are growing on it, right, I mean, there can be a big swing on.
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00:23:22.549Is this land that has just had, you know, grass on it, or is it corn and bean ground?
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00:23:25.295Or you cover a pretty diverse area.
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00:23:28.500So you probably see a fair amount of wheat and heck.
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00:23:31.005Maybe you even see some cotton in certain areas.
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00:23:35.922So I mean, obviously that can impact the value of the land.
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00:23:46.519So, as a broker, what you are trying to do is you're trying to do a like-for-like analysis, right, farms like this have sold for this amount.
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00:23:57.224And then the other thing you mentioned this earlier who were the buyers and sellers of those close-by farms, right?
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00:24:02.442So that will tell you a little bit of did this property sell for a lot of money?
00:24:02.442 -->
00:24:06.718Because it got bid up by the neighbor which you know.
00:24:06.718 -->
00:24:14.442A farm may only come up once in a generation for sale, so that could justify a very, very high price.
00:24:14.903 -->
00:24:30.815That also helps you determine who your list of buyers might be, right, you and I discussed when we were getting ready for the call you need to give those neighbors a call or stop by and say, hey, would you be interested in this property?
00:24:30.815 -->
00:24:40.175So researching who the landowners, the large landowners, and who the buyers and sellers in the vicinity of a property are.
00:24:40.175 -->
00:24:48.346So those are all just different data layers that we have in the platform that brokers like yourself can use.
00:24:48.346 -->
00:24:59.266Now, above and beyond that, if you're an ag banker and you're using the platform, you're probably looking at mortgage data.
00:24:59.266 -->
00:25:18.642You may also be looking at who the producers in the area are as well, and then obviously, if you're in ag seed sales or something like that, you probably care more about the operators or the producers in the area than just the landowners.
00:25:18.642 -->
00:25:27.423So those are just examples of data layers that we have in the platform that a broker like yourself can use to help put an accurate value on farmland.
00:25:28.250 -->
00:25:43.865Yeah, and I think what's interesting is like okay, so years ago, initially, when I got my subscription to Camo Ag and started using it, absolutely my initial thought was is that I'm building a report.
00:25:43.865 -->
00:25:54.576It's it's a semi-sexy report that I'm going to be able to hand to my client, got my branding on it and that it's got my comparables on it.
00:25:54.576 -->
00:25:57.241It's got the soil data, it's got all this other data on it.
00:25:57.241 -->
00:26:11.743Since then we've all of a sudden became we got to the point where now I've got and we've talked about this in the break is you've got the search feature on here.
00:26:11.864 -->
00:26:16.737Now I can go to the point you just made about.
00:26:16.737 -->
00:26:19.381I want to notify all the neighbors, right?
00:26:19.381 -->
00:26:32.077I want to let them know so I can go in there and I can say I want you know 200 addresses surrounding that property that I can send a bold postcard to that I can say hey, we're selling this property.
00:26:32.077 -->
00:26:37.415We want to make sure you guys know, which has now become a part of my business model, right?
00:26:37.415 -->
00:26:39.038So now I want to let the neighbors know.
00:26:39.038 -->
00:26:46.701That search feature, I think, is becoming probably one of the bigger selling points, correct?
00:26:46.701 -->
00:26:49.873That's become a huge feature of KMOA.
00:26:50.855 -->
00:26:54.046Yes, Search being able to find the property quickly.
00:26:54.046 -->
00:26:57.494And list building being able to build that marketing list.
00:26:57.494 -->
00:27:05.873It's allowing you to serve your customers in the highest possible way, right in you.
00:27:05.873 -->
00:27:07.556You and I discussed previously.
00:27:07.556 -->
00:27:17.000Selling a farm is more than just pounding a sign into the field and calling it a day right and you know you can't sell farms that way.
00:27:17.461 -->
00:27:36.983But if you are really, uh, trying to do your the best job you can for your clients, it's yeah, it's pounding a sign into the farm, but it's making sure that you are bringing an audience around that farm, a list of buyers around that farm that both live near and far.
00:27:36.983 -->
00:27:44.054I think one of the things that's happened Kobe in the land business, especially over the last 10 to 15 years.
00:27:44.054 -->
00:27:52.176Heck, even over the last three or four years, I think the world has become much more aware of the value of farmland.
00:27:52.176 -->
00:27:55.804It has been a pretty darn good investment.
00:27:55.804 -->
00:27:57.070Well, guess what?
00:27:57.070 -->
00:28:03.564The buyer of that farm that you're selling, that buyer could be anywhere.
00:28:03.564 -->
00:28:06.190It could be in New York, it could be in California.
00:28:06.190 -->
00:28:20.006So your responsibility to your clients, and every broker's responsibility to the client, is to get the highest possible price and bring the largest list of buyers to that.
00:28:21.412 -->
00:28:26.304So before tools like CamelWag, it was a lot more difficult.
00:28:26.304 -->
00:28:33.203So we're really trying to make your job easier so you can spend more time with your clients.
00:28:33.203 -->
00:28:40.580You mentioned the reports, the market analysis that we create.
00:28:40.580 -->
00:29:02.769It's got your branding on it so that you can do a very professional job, have a work product that you can leave behind with them and, uh, let them know that you know, you know what you're doing and I think, um, I think, it helps, uh, differentiate folks like yourself right, Like you're a professional in this business.
00:29:02.769 -->
00:29:14.625You can do the best job of valuing a farm, so it's our job to give you the best possible tools and the best possible data and the most up-to-date data.
00:29:15.310 -->
00:29:16.476You know, here's a good example.
00:29:16.476 -->
00:29:25.223You know we spend quite a bit of time pulling auctions and auction data into the platform.
00:29:25.223 -->
00:29:42.483A lot of times, especially if you're not in that area, you may not know that a farm just closed last week or two weeks ago and you need that very, very up-to-date data, if at all possible, to put the most accurate value on a farm.
00:29:42.483 -->
00:29:45.380That's something that I think a lot of people don't realize.
00:29:45.380 -->
00:29:50.416We are pulling a great deal of auction data into the platform.
00:29:50.416 -->
00:29:53.968A lot of that has not even hit the public records yet.
00:29:53.968 -->
00:29:55.531You could call the county assessor.
00:29:55.531 -->
00:29:57.515That county assessor may not even know yet.
00:29:58.176 -->
00:30:03.796Yeah, no, I mean, and I mean I want to talk about that when we come back from the break.
00:30:03.796 -->
00:30:14.798Let's take a quick break and when we come back I want to talk about just kind of where that data is coming from, because you are getting this stuff from a multitude of different places.
00:30:14.798 -->
00:30:20.156But if you don't mind, we're going to take a break and we will be right back.
00:30:22.151 -->
00:30:23.376Land isn't just dirt.
00:30:23.376 -->
00:30:31.222It's where memories are made, families are raised and livelihoods are built.
00:30:31.222 -->
00:30:36.882But when it comes time to sell or buy, the weight of the decision is heavy.
00:30:36.882 -->
00:30:40.997Where do you even start?
00:30:40.997 -->
00:30:49.251Who can you trust to guide you?
00:30:49.251 -->
00:30:54.242For too long, land transactions have been treated like a simple exchange Numbers on a paper, a signature on a line.
00:30:54.242 -->
00:30:56.332But it's more than that.
00:30:56.332 -->
00:31:02.301At High Point Land Company, we don't just list land, we walk it.
00:31:02.301 -->
00:31:11.569We learn its story and we find the right buyer who understands its worth.
00:31:11.569 -->
00:31:15.082You are not just another deal.
00:31:15.082 -->
00:31:28.317You are the steward of something bigger and we're here to help you navigate every step of the way when it's time to sell, when it's time to buy.
00:31:28.317 -->
00:31:36.492We're here Because land is more than just land.
00:31:42.383 -->
00:31:53.801It's your legacy all right, we are back with corbett.
00:31:53.801 -->
00:31:58.067Cool, from camo ag corbett.
00:31:58.067 -->
00:32:10.417You said to me something interesting that you don't really have a headquarters like you have like people hanging out in like nine states or six countries or I don't know, like something, like what is it nine states?
00:32:10.417 -->
00:32:14.809But you're from the great metropolis of chicago, correct?
00:32:15.830 -->
00:32:22.877yeah, so I'm, uh, based out of suburban chicago, but we are we're one of those fully remote companies.
00:32:22.877 -->
00:32:33.452You know that in the real estate business, like most real estate brokerages are kind of remote as well, but yeah, we're, we're very distributed.
00:32:33.452 -->
00:32:41.644We do have a small office in suburban Chicago, but really a remote first company.
00:32:41.644 -->
00:32:52.144We leaned into that with the pandemic and it's been great for us and we do get together periodically as a company.
00:32:52.144 -->
00:33:13.243We will typically have like a harvest day where we'll come out to a farm and ride in combines, tractors, semis and stuff just to, especially for the folks that are not as familiar with agriculture, although at this point most of the team has quite a bit of experience now.
00:33:13.243 -->
00:33:19.323But, yeah, just trying to do things to make sure that all the employees are well educated about agriculture.
00:33:19.869 -->
00:33:25.903Yeah, to touch and taste what it is exactly you're, exactly what you're up to and why you're doing it.
00:33:25.903 -->
00:33:27.255That's fun.
00:33:27.255 -->
00:33:38.804But, yeah, we've still got a couple of offices around the country, but I would say that a lot of our agents with High Point are remote, out on their own little islands doing their own things.
00:33:38.804 -->
00:33:43.760But no, but, uh, no, let's talk about data.
00:33:43.760 -->
00:33:45.756Uh, that's what's the?
00:33:45.756 -->
00:33:55.960We're in the data age, you know, and I think we're moving into the uh, um, what, the, the age of uh, of what?
00:33:55.960 -->
00:33:58.029What's the next stage?
00:33:58.029 -->
00:33:59.976I don't know.
00:33:59.976 -->
00:34:00.807Is it artificial?
00:34:00.827 -->
00:34:01.108intelligence.
00:34:01.128 -->
00:34:02.273Artificial intelligence.
00:34:02.273 -->
00:34:03.730Is that what it is?
00:34:03.730 -->
00:34:05.288But we're still.
00:34:05.288 -->
00:34:07.496The world revolves around data.
00:34:07.496 -->
00:34:11.615Where exactly is the data that you guys are getting?
00:34:11.615 -->
00:34:13.764I mean, it's coming from a ton of different places, right?
00:34:13.764 -->
00:34:29.710You're not just sitting there with a couple of people sitting at a chair typing all this stuff in from reports from brokers all over the country, right there's a bunch of stuff that's coming in and you're getting the data from that correct, correct, correct.
00:34:29.730 -->
00:34:34.297So we get data through a variety of different aggregators.
00:34:34.297 -->
00:34:42.539There are some big national players, so we're pulling it from two or three of the large national players.
00:34:42.539 -->
00:34:54.161There are some local, more local data sources, for example, like Land Sales Bulletin, which I think covers, you know, nine or 10 states.
00:34:54.161 -->
00:35:19.653So we've got a pretty close working relationship with them, with them, and then on top of that, we are pulling in auction data that is relatively real time, so both live auctions, things that are going to be auctioned into the future, you can see those in the platform as well as recent auctions that have closed.
00:35:19.713 -->
00:35:22.137So that's like near real time.
00:35:22.137 -->
00:35:26.849Usually within a few days of an auction closing we'll have that in the platform.
00:35:26.849 -->
00:35:32.478Then on top of that, we have private data.
00:35:32.478 -->
00:35:34.688So what private data would be?
00:35:34.688 -->
00:35:41.239Let's say Highpoint, you can record all of your sales data in the platform.
00:35:41.239 -->
00:35:53.594Now, the difference with that is any private data in the platform remains private to your organization.
00:35:53.594 -->
00:36:01.293So let's say you have somebody on your team that is entering either your sales in or just other let's say you had somebody attend an auction.
00:36:01.293 -->
00:36:05.409They can record that in the platform for your own benefit.
00:36:05.889 -->
00:36:12.548We do not look at the data that you guys are entering into the platform or any of our customers.
00:36:12.548 -->
00:36:16.378Any of the data that we're pushing out to you guys.
00:36:16.378 -->
00:36:17.746That's from public sources.
00:36:17.746 -->
00:36:28.414And then anytime you privately author a comp data so a comparable sale data that stays private to your organization.
00:36:28.414 -->
00:36:36.851There are some cases where certain organizations have agreed to share some data, but that's handled on a case-by-case basis.
00:36:37.284 -->
00:36:41.347Anything you do in the platform is private to your organization.
00:36:41.347 -->
00:36:44.228We don't look at it, we don't do anything with that.
00:36:44.228 -->
00:36:48.831So those are the sources of the data.
00:36:48.831 -->
00:37:16.246And it obviously right, because the counties don't report sales instantaneously, right, but we have both the transaction data.
00:37:16.246 -->
00:37:22.726Then we also have the county assessor data as well and then I think you know, kobe, for a number of the counties we have links directly to the county assessor's website.
00:37:22.726 -->
00:37:24.434So we call them convenience links.
00:37:24.434 -->
00:37:32.606So if you click on a parcel, in a lot of cases, if you see that as a hyperlink, you can click on that it will take you directly to the county, which is.
00:37:32.606 -->
00:37:47.335It's a pretty cool feature to be able to very quickly go and maybe dig in a little bit deeper on a property and see if there's anything else that you need to know about that specific person or that farm.
00:37:48.018 -->
00:37:49.300Yeah, no, that's.
00:37:49.300 -->
00:37:56.784That's interesting because you know, like I would be kind of curious to know, like, what's the hierarchy?
00:37:56.784 -->
00:38:10.034There's gotta be like data coming in on sales and how you have data coming in on the same sale five different times.
00:38:10.034 -->
00:38:28.778There's got to be a way that it'll say, oh, this is the same one, and if there's a data difference, does it just kick it to somebody to make a decision?
00:38:30.186 -->
00:38:31.873Yeah, so there's a couple of things.
00:38:31.873 -->
00:38:42.019One, when you're doing a comparable market analysis where you're looking at sales, you can turn different data sources on and off right.
00:38:42.019 -->
00:38:46.996So you can sometimes be in certain areas where there's just too much right.
00:38:46.996 -->
00:38:50.735You just want to turn off some of the sources.
00:38:50.735 -->
00:39:10.990In terms of that hierarchy I forget exactly how we set that, but in some cases, you know what is interesting it can actually be helpful to look at multiple sources on the same transaction, because guess what Mistakes happen right.
00:39:11.885 -->
00:39:17.666Sometimes they'll miss a parcel, sometimes perhaps the acreage could be off Heck.
00:39:17.666 -->
00:39:23.376We've even seen keying errors right where the data source that we're pulling in.
00:39:23.376 -->
00:39:25.760They just flat out made a mistake right.
00:39:25.760 -->
00:39:36.119So the combination of those things can make it helpful to look at, you know, if multiple sources have the same transaction.
00:39:36.119 -->
00:39:40.885It can actually be helpful to see the multiple transactions.
00:39:40.885 -->
00:39:44.971But I'll be honest with you, I forgot exactly how we prioritize it.
00:39:44.971 -->
00:39:51.250So I'll have to get Jesse on the phone or something with you to see how we prioritize those.
00:39:51.670 -->
00:39:52.413That's all right.
00:39:52.413 -->
00:39:55.144You've been pretty on top of things so far.
00:39:55.144 -->
00:39:59.813I'm going to give you this one on a lookup, I guess.
00:40:00.956 -->
00:40:02.418Well, you can ask the team.
00:40:02.418 -->
00:40:05.454I'm probably one of the heavier users of the platform.
00:40:05.454 -->
00:40:13.510I use it quite a bit, so I feel like if you're going to sell something, you better know how to use it.
00:40:13.510 -->
00:40:18.894So that applies to a lot of different things, but I'm a pretty big user of the platform myself.
00:40:21.291 -->
00:40:22.795Yeah, it's pretty user-friendly.
00:40:22.795 -->
00:40:25.369I mean, if I can use it.
00:40:25.369 -->
00:40:29.135I always say you made it to the point where most people can handle it.
00:40:29.135 -->
00:40:45.347So I'm going to stump you now because I use the product, because I'm going to.
00:40:45.347 -->
00:40:46.751I use the product so I want to know, like, what would I not know?
00:40:46.751 -->
00:40:50.402Or maybe what's coming up that is exciting, that maybe we could let people know that that's going to be new.
00:40:50.585 -->
00:41:15.684And the next big thing with Camelback Well, so a few things, and one thing that, again, I just don't think people are aware enough of is we have invested very heavily in search and it is super fast, very slick and very good, and it is a search across the entire country.
00:41:15.684 -->
00:41:26.054So both for yourself you know, you being a professional but others who are not professionals using the platform, give search a shot.
00:41:26.054 -->
00:41:35.398You know, I think everybody knows how to use Google search, but I think you will be surprised at how well it works.
00:41:35.398 -->
00:41:42.777Heck, you can do a search for something like search for Walmart or search for Apple or Microsoft, et cetera.
00:41:42.777 -->
00:41:46.092You will see all the parcels that they own in the country.
00:41:46.092 -->
00:41:47.637So it's really kind of crazy.
00:41:47.637 -->
00:41:49.628So just a shout out to search.
00:41:49.628 -->
00:41:53.157If you haven't used it yet, I would highly recommend it.
00:41:54.425 -->
00:42:09.641A couple of quick previews we are working on some tools that will help brokers like you drive even more engagement with your customers and with your prospects.
00:42:09.641 -->
00:42:21.041And just a little bit of a veiled you know hint, but it will make your website even more powerful than it is already.
00:42:21.041 -->
00:42:30.739Make your website even more powerful than it is already and it will hopefully help drive more engagement with your website and help bring in more customers, help bring in more leads.
00:42:30.739 -->
00:42:31.766So stay tuned.
00:42:31.766 -->
00:42:45.411On that little bit of a sneak peek, the last thing I'll leave you with is Camoag is mobile responsive, so you can use it on your phone in a web browser.
00:42:45.432 -->
00:42:49.514That's right and it works quite well.
00:42:49.514 -->
00:42:56.976You can even turn on location services and if you're standing right next to a farm or whatever, you can see exactly where you are.
00:42:56.976 -->
00:43:05.992If it's a section, it's easy to get you know, it's easy to you know, get kind of confused, like where you're at on on a property sometimes.
00:43:05.992 -->
00:43:16.786Uh, but we are working on some more mobile capabilities uh to uh to help you when you're in the the pickup truck, uh out there selling to folks.
00:43:16.786 -->
00:43:19.472So just a little bit of a sneak peek there.
00:43:19.472 -->
00:43:21.016So stay tuned.
00:43:21.016 -->
00:43:26.755Should be coming out here pretty soon and I think you'll, I think you'll like it.
00:43:26.755 -->
00:43:28.097It's going to help you out quite a bit.
00:43:29.086 -->
00:43:44.965I'm, I'm, I'm excited to see what you guys are working on, because I have not been disappointed yet and definitely just the search feature is something like I think the first time I was introduced to it and I heard the price tag on it, I was a little sticker shocked.
00:43:44.965 -->
00:43:59.253But when you sit down and figure out what you get for what you guys are charging, it's ridiculously reasonable, and I think everybody in this business I mean, it's one flat fee.
00:43:59.253 -->
00:44:02.778It's one flat fee if I, if I still the same as it was.
00:44:02.778 -->
00:44:11.492So I don't know if you're talking prices today or or whether you want people just to get ahold of your team, but um, um, but it's I.
00:44:11.492 -->
00:44:15.567I will tell you that it is probably one of the coolest features in in the business.
00:44:15.626 -->
00:44:27.690If you're looking for um, I always say that the the best thing to do in this business is something, no matter what it's something, just go do something.
00:44:27.690 -->
00:45:06.666And so one of the things that we've incorporated in our office is like, if we don't have anything better to do, we pull search up and we just start searching ridiculous things and then, you know, start contacting people, you know, and so one of the you know like contacting people, you know, and so one of the you know, like who's buying stuff in whatever County you know, and so we'll go pull up, you know we'll we'll be able to find who's buying property right now in X County Nebraska or X County Kansas or X County Colorado, and, using you know another tool that we have, we can find those phone numbers and we can just start calling up and talking to people about what they're buying, what they're looking for, and see if we can help them.
00:45:06.666 -->
00:45:15.255You know, and so cause we have search also that we'll find out what they're buying, so we can go make other phone calls to find out what people want to sell.
00:45:15.255 -->
00:45:23.438You know, and so it's, you know, it's just it's a very fun tool to use, especially if you're nosy and just want to find out information.
00:45:23.438 -->
00:45:25.039It's incredible.
00:45:26.706 -->
00:45:28.273Well, it's funny you mentioned that, kobe.
00:45:28.273 -->
00:45:31.887I should have mentioned this Pretty soon.
00:45:31.887 -->
00:45:38.034You'll be able to get phone numbers and email addresses through the platform as well, so you won't even have to go to another tool.
00:45:38.034 -->
00:45:44.847But in terms of pricing, it's less than a tank of gas per month.
00:45:44.847 -->
00:45:52.327So so it's really, especially for an ag professional like yourself, a broker, right.
00:45:52.327 -->
00:45:56.460Like dude, how many tanks of gas do you go through a month?
00:45:56.460 -->
00:45:59.771Right, it's, it's a lot right, because you're driving all over the place.
00:45:59.771 -->
00:46:00.454So it's, it's less than that.
00:46:00.454 -->
00:46:01.858It's's it's a lot Right, because you're driving all over the place.
00:46:01.858 -->
00:46:16.246So it's, it's less than that, it's quite, it's quite affordable, and the time that you can save, both from a prospecting standpoint but also just in serving your clients, it's, it's well worth the money, yeah.
00:46:17.369 -->
00:46:20.657Well, and I again I don't know why.
00:46:20.657 -->
00:46:22.092Well, and again I don't know why.
00:46:22.092 -->
00:46:36.331This is one of those tools that it's just.
00:46:36.331 -->
00:46:40.844I almost feel like I'm almost giving away too much by offering this one up to my competition, but I highly recommend it.
00:46:40.844 -->
00:46:42.867I can't say enough good things about what you guys are up to, sir.
00:46:42.867 -->
00:46:46.110Anything else before we jump off here Anything we missed.
00:46:47.471 -->
00:46:48.532No, I don't think so, kobe.
00:46:48.532 -->
00:46:50.614I really appreciate the opportunity today.
00:46:50.614 -->
00:46:52.737We really value your business.
00:46:52.737 -->
00:46:55.219We appreciate working with High Point.
00:46:55.219 -->
00:47:06.967You guys have been awesome, so look to continue to work with you guys in the future, and if you ever have any ideas for anything you would like for us to add to the platform, just give me a.
00:47:06.967 -->
00:47:08.954Give me a call and we'd love to talk to you.
00:47:09.585 -->
00:47:23.592That is one thing I will say before I go is I know for a fact that you guys are very open to um looking at any sort of crazy ideas, because you do pick up the phone when David calls you.
00:47:23.592 -->
00:47:26.458So he has got lots of ideas.
00:47:26.458 -->
00:47:42.054Most of them are pretty awesome, but, uh, well, um, we are going to go ahead and put your um uh website information and probably your company phone number in the show notes so that people can get ahold of your company if they're interested.
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00:47:48.463And I think, do you do a test drive for people or just yeah, we can do.
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00:47:49.851Yeah, we can do trials.
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00:47:55.918If folks want to do a trial, just give us a call or drop us an email and we'll get you set up.
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00:47:57.771Yeah, highly recommend it.
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00:48:00.730Like I said, get a hold of these guys.
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00:48:05.559This is probably something you need to have in your toolbox for sure.
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00:48:12.454Well, once again, thanks everybody for joining us today, and we will see you all down the road.
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00:48:17.817As we wrap up another episode of the American Land Seller Podcast.
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00:48:41.778Kobe wishes you success in your land endeavors.
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