All Her Clients Vanished. Then a Voice Said Start Over with Brianna Rose

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What if healing looked nothing like you were taught?
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Welcome to All Within.
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I'm Dawn Elle Davis, and every episode I'm sitting down with the healers, the seekers, and the ones who found their way back to wholeness through roads you might not expect.
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Their stories, their modalities, and their hard-won wisdom.
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This is where healing gets real.
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Let's begin.
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Hello.
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So excited to be back with you guys this week, and I have somebody on that I have following for years on social media.
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You know how social media sometimes you see these people and you admire them from afar?
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And today I get to, meet her and talk to her and bring her to you guys, so I'm super excited to have Brianna Rose on.
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Brianna, I would love for you to share with our listeners what you do and kind of healing work and coaching and all the things.
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thank you so much for having me on, and thank you for that awesome introduction.
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I'm Brianna Rose.
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I am a somatic business coach, and for those of you that are like,"What even is that?" I blend the body, the nervous system, and I pair that with business strategy.
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And so my whole thought process and experience has been if the body isn't on board, guess what?
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You're going to self-sabotage every step of the way when you go to take your gifts out into the world and truly light up the world.
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And I started off as a healer, and as a healer, I know we have incredible gifts, but oftentimes we might not have the gift of business building and feeling comfortable in the spotlight.
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And I know I wanna live in a world where healers are making serious impact, and that's why I do the work that I do, so we can get more healers out into the world sharing their gifts and raising the vibration of the planet.
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Oh, I love that, and it's so true because I think healers get into this because they're drawn to
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Yeah
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others through whatever modality they're using, whatever they're called to, then they realize,"Oh, wait a second, there is this business that I have to run." Right?
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And most of us are not...
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I personally had a corporate background.
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I was in pharmaceutical sales and all these different sales positions and leadership before I got into this.
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But a lot of healers, they're just so gift- I always think of them as, artists, right?
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They come in and they're like,"Wait a second, I have to do social media, I have to do marketing, I have to use my voice and tell people what I do.
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People aren't just gonna knock on my door." So it's like you're very needed.
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So how did you even get into this, Brianna?
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Well, I feel that I've been a healer my whole life or been a light worker my whole life.
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I had intuitive gifts as a child that I suppressed and was afraid of, but they always were kind of like lurking.
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I always was super intuitive, could see spirit, feel spirit, have dream visitations and so on.
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But I would like pray for it to go away because it freaked me out and I didn't know what to do with it.
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And on that thread, somehow I ended up going to college to get my bachelor's in advertising and marketing communications.
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I'm originally from New York.
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I wanted to be a girl boss, like the complete opposite of my intuitive gifts.
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I was like,"Let's just go be a girl boss, and let's work 60, 80, 100 hours a week and climb the corporate ladder." It's so interesting thinking about that version of me because it's like,"Who even was that version of me?" I feel so different and so distant from that version of me, but that was me and it was part of my chapter.
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And through that process, during that time of working in corporate and building businesses, I had a spiritual awakening.
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I lost a friend that was really close to me, and literally the night that, she had passed away, it was like every prayer that I had done to like suppress my gifts and my intuition, it was as if the universe like ripped the veil off and they were just popped open.
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And so I went from like zero to 90, it felt like overnight.
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Gifts cracked open, feeling things so intentionally.
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And part of it was the grief aspect too, but part of it was my gifts just being completely activated.
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And from that moment on, it was as if I could no longer see the world the same way, because now I could feel things again, see things again.
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Part of me felt like I was going crazy because you start to
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I
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and you're like,"Wait, what's happening here?" and through that, the business that I was working for at the time, I was a PR and marketing director.
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I was in my early 20s.
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It just so happened to be that while this was happening, we happened to hire, a Reiki healer and an acupuncturist, and it was so out-
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The firm?
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I thought, yeah, we brought them into the company I was working for, and I was Like, this sounds so cool," and also, kind of scared, like,"What is this?
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What is this energy work?" But I was going through this spiritual awakening, and I remember feeling, if anyone can relate to what I'm going through or at least have some answers for me, it's them.
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And I literally remember randomly walking into a treatment room, closing the door behind me, sitting on a table, and saying,"I need help.
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I have no idea what's going on.
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I need help." And those two women ended up being, like, my first teachers.
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That opened up so many doors for me.
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Of course, Reiki, like for so many people, it's the gateway to all of it, so I became Reiki certified, Reiki master.
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and just that became just such a, a launchpad to understanding intuition, channeling energy work, and I became obsessed, as one does.
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When we start to learn about this stuff, it's like we open up one book, we meet one teacher, we think we know something, we realize there's this whole other thing that we don't know, and it's just this, like, a healthy obsession,
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Yes
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learning about energy and healing and transformation.
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and so around this time, I could no longer see the world the same way, which also meant I could no longer see my career the same way.
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And so there was this big identity shift I had to go through,'cause I had built up this identity as, like,"I'm a girl boss.
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I'm financially successful.
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I make moves." There was a whole identity around that, and now that identity was starting to be questioned and challenged.
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And so I ended up leaving my nine-to-five based on my intuition.
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I literally had a dream the night before that my friend that had passed away, she visited me and was like, you need to leave.
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You need to hop on the train." I was at a train station and the train was coming, and she's like,"You gotta hop on it." Even have chills now retelling this story, and she's like,"You've gotta leave now." And granted, there were some other sectors and aspects of the job that were not of my highest and greatest good, and so, it was just the push that I needed.
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I woke up that morning, like literally it was like I hopped on the train, woke up, and was like,"I'm walking in, and I'm leaving today," and that's what I did.
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And so I left with intuitive guidance to do it, and that's how I started my business about 13 years ago.
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and so that's the beginning journey of my healing journey and becoming an entrepreneur.
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Wow, I know that feeling of being in that corporate America energy.
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And then I, when I was in pharmaceutical sales, I an 18-month clairvoyant program after work.
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It was like once a week.
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And I remember the teacher saying, she's like,"Your life is dramatically gonna change in ways that you can't predict.
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Like, you may your job or a relationship or something." And I was like,"Oh my God.
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What is she talking about?" But just like you, when my gifts came online, was as if everything got dismantled because the life that I was living was wildly out of alignment with my soul wanted.
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And so I think that's one of those initiatory thresholds that we cross, right?
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Where it's like, my gosh, these gifts are here and they're amazing, but now I'm seeing everything different.
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So once you started to see things differently and you started your business, did you start off as a healer Or did you immediately go into, the business-y part of it too?
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I immediately went into the business aspect because I was like,"I need to make money, and this is the thing that I know how to do to make money." And I also felt like while I was a Reiki master, I also felt like I wasn't ready yet to charge.
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And whether that was a limiting belief or not, I just felt like I need some more experience, training, education.
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And so I joke that I felt like for the first four years of being an entrepreneur, I was living almost like a dual life it felt, because on the front I'm doing business consulting and advertising and graphic design and branding, and then like at night I'm taking all these like witchy woo-woo classes.
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I'm learning how to channel like ascended masters.
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I'm going through all the courses and programs, like just a sponge soaking it up.
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And it felt like literally two different aspects of me, and I remember wanting to blend them because I love business and I love making money and I love helping other people make money.
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And this is when I was starting to see this gap of, wow, I'm seeing all these incredible healers in these classes that I'm taking, and they're making next to nothing.
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They have no idea how to market, monetize, express, sell, serve, and yet they have this big-ass calling.
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Like they have this big calling, and they're really good at what they do, and they can barely make their rent.
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They can barely pay for their car payment.
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And these are people that are like really good at what they do, and I remember just sitting with that and feeling like, God, that sucks.
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Like that sucks that this person that could literally change someone's life, is having to think before they go to the grocery store of like what they can afford or like how much gas can we put in the car.
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And I remember just sitting with this energy of like, how can I, how can I help them?
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Because if the healer doesn't know how to build the business, the healer goes to a 9:00 to 5:00 And we can't have that because then the gifts get suppressed or they're only being done on Saturday and Sunday, and they're burning out.
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And I remember playing with this idea of, hmm, how might I start to bridge this?
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And after four years it really settled in I'm meant to bridge this gap for healers, and just intuitives and teaching them how to build their businesses.
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And it got to the point where I wasn't saying yes because I was afraid,'cause it felt really scary.
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'Cause you have to remember this was like 2015, 20...
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Yeah, 2015-ish.
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Now it's normal to blend spirituality with business.
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Back then people, I remember even ones that were spiritual, thought I was crazy.
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They're like,"What?
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No one's gonna buy that" or"What are you talking about?" Like I got a lot of"Okay, if you're sure.
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Are you sure you wanna do this?" There was a lot of second guessing, which, made me second-guess myself.
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And it got to the point where two things happened.
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One, when I would sit and channel, because I was living this dual life, I would literally feel my meditation split and two different visions come out of each eye, It felt like my soul was tearing because I had these two dynamics, two different worlds I was living in, and it didn't feel good.
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I got nauseous, and I just felt like, oh God, I don't wanna do this.
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I need to, sync them back together." And then all of my branding clients, gone.
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Like, all of a sudden I went from making money to, no one was renewing, no one was showing up.
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Universe had to pull the rug out from underneath me in order for me to say yes.
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And I remember when that was happening, you start, like, manic manifesting'cause now I'm like,"Oh my God, I have no money, I have no clients.
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Where is it all gonna come in?
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Ah!" You know, it's all the drama of the ego.
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And I remember sitting there in meditation, and I heard just this booming voice that said to me,'cause at this time is when I was playing with Kundalini Now I wanted to blend Kundalini with business?
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Like, it was just outlandish.
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And I remember this booming voice came in and stepped in and said,"Create Kundalini business coaching and your entire life will change." And shortly after, that's when, like, everything closed up, and I had an option.
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Go on Indeed and try to find a nine-to-five or You try and start this Kundalini business, coaching business, and I decided to do the Kundalini business coaching business.
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And I remember I had no website, my following was, like, really small at the time, and I just started to go on Instagram and just tell the truth.
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I was shaking and sweating'cause I struggled a lot with being on camera and visibility, social anxiety, panic attacks, all those things, that was me.
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Again, it's almost like,"Who was that girl?"'Cause I'm totally fine being on camera now.
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But back then it was so scary.
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But I remember thinking,"One, I have no other option, but two, there are people out there that need this, and if I don't share it, I'm taking away their opportunity to heal if I keep it within." And that was, like, my fear was at 49%, but, like, that was at 51.
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Like, it just, like, outweighed it just enough that it got me to start doing a story, to start make a post.
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Within two weeks, my one-on-one roster was booked out with 12 people.
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It
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I'll let pass
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I had my first ever$12,000 month, and I remember sitting there thinking,"Wow, my life is about to change." Like,"This is happening." And within, I think about three or four months after that, I had a six-month wait list for my one-on-ones.
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Everything was taking off, my clients were seeing shifts and results, and it got to the point where I remember sitting and thinking with myself,"I have six months of people that wanna work with me.
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My core mission is to make impact, and, like, this goes against my core mission of making impact'cause now I have six months of people waiting to work with me, and realistically, as someone that's doing one-on-one work, there's only so many hours in the day.
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There's only so many people I can actually help." I remember just having this like,"Hmm," like,"What can I do about this?" And so I created my first group coaching program that blended the Kundalini and the business coaching, and then that sold out within the first two weeks, and that continuously sold out for four years.
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it just took off, and that's how I learned to lean in, and here we are all these years later.
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We have the Light Leader Movement, we have thousands of clients around the globe, but it all started from saying yes, making friends with discomfort, and just having that belief and that devotion be, like, 1% higher than my fear
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I love that.
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And you were saying how you were basically a pioneer.
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'Cause, I mean, I started around that same time in 2013.
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I started doing all my coaching.
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I was a healer for some years before that, and I really went full throttle.
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And I do remember as well when I, back in myself an intuitive healer on social media, and people were like,"What is that?" People would question me.
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And so for our listeners, I want them to know, for those of you who anticipate the future, you can't worry about what people are gonna say or think because you've been given the ability to kind of forecast what's next.
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If it's in your heart, if it's in your energy, it's there for a reason, right?
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हम्म
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I love how you said the universe removed your clients at that time, before you went into, what you're doing.
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And I think a lot of people, when life is challenging them in that way, first thought is,"Oh my gosh, let me go back to what's comfortable and safe." Right?
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Because it's what's normal.
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But I love that you had that booming voice, as you described, that came through, that I'm sure you would say is, spirit or the divine or something, And you followed it, and then you had to step into that liminal space, and it didn't seem like it lasted very long, though, where you were just, cranking and doing it.
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So why Kundalini?
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what was the draw with that to bring into the business
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for me, I was absorbed and obsessed with all of the energy work, and just learning and training and getting certifications.
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I couldn't get enough, and yet I still felt a little eh.
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Like, I still felt like it wasn't really Like, I would have temporary relief is probably a better way to describe it.
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I would feel kind of good, but then I would always somehow rebound back.
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It was like a rubber band.
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I would feel good and then poof.
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And I remember going into my first kundalini class, just to paint the picture'cause I'm a visual person, I'm from New York, I dress in all black.
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I show up to this kundalini class, everyone's in all white, and white turbans, and white sheepskin mats.
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And I was like,"Is this a cult?
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Like, what did I just walk into?"
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were you in LA or at least Southern California or where
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no.
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I was in New York.
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you?
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No.
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Is this in New York?
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Uh-huh.
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in New York.
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I'm from Long Island originally, and it happened to be the only Kundalini yoga studio at the time on Long Island, and it happened to be literally next door to where I worked.
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Like, it was just the synchronicity of it.
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I'm like,"This is crazy." So I walk in, I do this class.
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Again, completely out of my comfort zone, this type of yoga.
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I thought I was gonna be fine.
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I've done yoga before.
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I have a background as a dancer.
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I'm like,"This is, like, Kundalini.
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I'll be good." Got my butt handed to me.
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It was the hardest experience that I've ever gone through, like, as the first time trying something new out.
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And I remember walking out saying,"I don't know what just happened.
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Like, I can't even put words to it, and yet this is the best I have ever felt," and I was able to last the longest, and I was able to see an extension on my healing, my transformation, my shifts, and then I became obsessed with learning about Kundalini and why it works and how it works.
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And for me.
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I am a pioneer.
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I love learning things.
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I love innovating, and I remember wanting to know why that these kriyas worked.
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Why did they work so good?
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In comparison to everything else I was doing and trained in, why was this thing working?
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at that time, every teacher that I went to had no answer for me.
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They were just kind of like,"Be quiet.
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Just trust what the guru wrote in the transcripts." I'm like,"But the guru didn't give any context.
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Why?
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Why is it working?
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Why isn't it working?" Because sometimes the kriyas would actually make me sick, the Kundalini kriyas, and I would get physically sick, so again, I'd raise my hand.
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"Why don't I feel good when I'm doing this?" No answer, or,"You're not strong enough.
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You just have to keep doing it." Yeah.
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It was very...
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But I'm so grateful, because it wouldn't have led me to where I am today, having these experiences.
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And I remember not taking that as an answer and saying,"I'm gonna figure this out.
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I'm gonna find out why does it work, why doesn't it work." And so I spent the last now 12 years studying Kundalini, like the roots of it, and what it is, and how it works in the body, and I've found it to always be...
00:19:17.446 --> 00:19:21.297
and now I'm even more versed in more m- m- methodologies and modalities.
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I always come back to it, because it performs the best, it's the most efficient, and the healing actually lasts.
00:19:28.926 --> 00:19:38.346
Because what we're actually doing is rewiring the nervous system, and when we're able to rewire the nervous system, the healing work can actually work and stick.
00:19:38.376 --> 00:19:41.396
The coaching can actually work and stick.
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Once we get a strong foundation through the body, everything else we layer on top of it can actually land, and we can build this really strong foundation.
00:19:51.007 --> 00:19:58.057
so for me, that's why I fell in love with it and why I practice it still all these years later,'cause I haven't found anything better.
00:19:58.067 --> 00:19:59.186
Like I, I've looked.
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I've tried.
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I'm sure that there's more things I can try, but at this point in my journey, it has been hands down the thing that always continuously works
00:20:07.763 --> 00:20:14.624
Yeah, so did you get certified as a teacher or did you just learn it so well that you just passed over the different sets that you liked?
00:20:14.923 --> 00:20:16.125
Yeah, I've done both.
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I think it's important for me to fact check things that I was learning and experiencing.
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And so the Kundalini that I teach now is a blend of my experience, my own personal learnings, like, in my body, but reading, and then also certifications that I have.
00:20:32.325 --> 00:20:40.535
And so how I teach it can go against the grain of how Kundalini is taught in, like, the mainstream Western world.
00:20:40.545 --> 00:20:47.724
And so for me, I'm like,"If I'm going to be all in on my version of it, I've gotta know the other version." Like, we can't stand against something and not know it.
00:20:47.734 --> 00:20:53.974
So, I have taken lots of certifications, teacher trainings, and so on, and some are really great.
00:20:53.984 --> 00:21:01.644
And the ones that weren't great, they taught me so much about what I find, important when it comes to, values, integrity, teaching skills.
00:21:01.644 --> 00:21:03.365
So actually, it was all really great.
00:21:03.375 --> 00:21:06.315
I learned so much from everything I've done.
00:21:06.325 --> 00:21:13.664
but what I teach now and what I certify now is a blend of my experience, my teachings, and of course, my certifications along the way
00:21:14.615 --> 00:21:15.375
So cool.
00:21:15.445 --> 00:21:19.566
Now, I am a fan of Kundalini as well.
00:21:19.566 --> 00:21:20.976
I've done it over the years
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उह
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I used to live in San Diego, so there was a teacher in La Jolla.
00:21:25.945 --> 00:21:32.536
I can't remember her name right now, but She had this, beautiful little place, and I went in, and that was the first time I ever experienced it.
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One of my clients had invited me.
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And I felt, like, electricity moving through me.
00:21:39.945 --> 00:21:45.865
I remember, for those who haven't done Kundalini, there's some mantra, right?
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And then holding poses, like your hands are in certain kriyas, and you're breathing a certain way, and there's just all these...
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There's a lot of things happening at one time.
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It's not like a typical yoga pose per se.
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Mm-hmm.
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And the music with this breathing and, I think one time I was doing, scissor hands or something for, like, 10 minutes it felt like.
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I thought I was gonna, my arms were gonna fall off.
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Yeah
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But I would have these really profound, super clear feelings of being a vessel.
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Just feeling so open.
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And so on and off through the years, and I started practicing again just, a couple years ago online, just from home.
00:22:25.855 --> 00:22:41.286
But I, I could see why you're in love with it, and I know that, Kundalini's kinda gone through a lot of different things over the years, but I think it's really cool that you have found your own way with it, and I, to s- speaking to your pioneering spirit.
00:22:41.296 --> 00:22:52.215
And so you said earlier that you had panic attacks and different kind of things happening when you had to go online and...
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Yeah
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Was it the Kundalini that was helping you at that time too?
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'Cause I think there's a lot of people that can relate to that, even if they're not trying to be a healer, and they get these things, they get overcome when they have to go out and do the thing that they wanna do.
00:23:06.346 --> 00:23:08.056
what was supporting you at that time with that?
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Yeah.
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you know, it was Kundalini, but it was Kundalini done the light leader way.
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and I share that because I wasn't just practicing random kriyas and saying,"I hope this helps.
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Like, maybe this will help me." And even just to your point of, like, just sitting there cutting the scissor hands for 10 minutes, for me, I've always been curious and saying,"Well, why am I doing that and why is this working?" similarly with the panic attacks and the anxiety, what I've discovered over the years is we can't kill energy, right?
00:23:39.017 --> 00:23:45.886
Once energy has been created, we can't make it go away, but we can alchemize it and allow it to be in its highest expression.
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I recognized and realized through the energy work that I was doing, I would have that temporary relief, but it wasn't Going away.
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No matter how much I tried to, like, look down my rabbit hole of all of my, my traumas and shadow and all of that, it wasn't really helping.
00:24:01.932 --> 00:24:07.353
I was actually staying more stuck trying to figure out the root cause and where it came from.
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And again, what I realized is nothing in nature has only one root.
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There is multiple roots to a root, and if I keep looking for it, it's like Whac-A-Mole, another thing is going to pop up.
00:24:16.942 --> 00:24:21.923
And so I started to shift my perspective and say,"Well, how can I alchemize this anxiety?
00:24:21.923 --> 00:24:22.522
It's here.
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It's in my body.
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anxiety's here.
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Panic attacks are here.
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How do I actually elevate and transmute it, alchemize it into a higher expression like certainty, like determination?
00:24:33.053 --> 00:24:37.462
How can I transform this anxious energy and use it as motivation?
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How can I bring it into my body and use it as a source of power?" And so I had that in my mind, which then led me to learning about Chinese medicine and learning about how the body has energy channels, and that's how I teach Kundalini now and what I certify people in.
00:24:53.792 --> 00:25:02.083
I created a somatic methodology called Body Mapping, and essentially it tracks the current state of the nervous system via the meridian system.
00:25:02.363 --> 00:25:15.522
I think of it as, channels and pathways of light that run through our body, but through traumas that we've gone through or what's been passed down to us from our ancestors, those pathways of light, they can close up when they're blocked.
00:25:15.532 --> 00:25:28.192
And so what I started to do was I recognized and I could actually track where was anxiety in my body, how was my body holding it, how was my nervous system patterned to hold it, and how do I alchemize it?
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Oh, I'm going to curate a kriya to target that area of my body so it releases the anxiety and it removes it and it rewires it.
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And so I started doing this, like, 12, 13 years ago now, and I still have my original journals where I was, like, taking notes on the, the energy channels and the kriyas and how they all worked and how long I had to be in the posture before I felt a relief.
00:25:49.982 --> 00:25:58.923
Because in traditional Kundalini yoga training, it's very prescriptive and specific, but it doesn't really tell you why you're holding it for a certain period of time.
00:25:58.923 --> 00:26:00.673
So I just put everything to the test.
00:26:00.682 --> 00:26:07.393
I was like,"Okay, it says 11 minutes, but if I'm curating this to my body, can I do it in three minutes?" That's where the New Yorker came in.
00:26:07.403 --> 00:26:08.251
I was like,"How can we do it shorter?
00:26:08.251 --> 00:26:08.722
How can we do it faster?
00:26:08.722 --> 00:26:19.444
How can we do it more efficient?" And I just played with it until I started to recognize and truly track- how can I actually rewire my nervous system for my next level?
00:26:19.444 --> 00:26:20.315
Because I want...
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I didn't want anxiety.
00:26:21.924 --> 00:26:23.644
I didn't want panic attacks.
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I wanted power.
00:26:24.615 --> 00:26:25.674
I wanted motivation.
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I wanted to be able to have that energy to continue to fulfill the mission that's been placed in my heart.
00:26:31.005 --> 00:26:39.484
And for those of us that are healers, gosh, it's a, it's a weight to it, that frequency, that, that calling to heal, to awaken the masses.
00:26:39.904 --> 00:26:44.355
There's an energetic weight to it, and I didn't have the bandwidth to hold it.
00:26:44.355 --> 00:26:45.644
I would collapse underneath it.
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I would second-guess myself.
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The anxiety would get triggered.
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And so I started to just pair and curate these kriyas to where anxiety was being held.
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I was using the meridian system, and I was using it to truly rewire and alchemize that energy.
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And so that's what I was doing.
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That's what I did, to shift this energy.
00:27:06.214 --> 00:27:14.355
And I would notice it in small increments where I would do a live or do a master class without a panic attack.
00:27:14.355 --> 00:27:16.914
Like it started small, and I think that's important to note.
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I didn't all of a sudden quantum shift.
00:27:19.434 --> 00:27:29.265
Quantum shifts I think are really cool in theory, but if you don't have the body or the nervous system to hold the power of the quantum shift, you will regret the very thing that you just manifested.
00:27:29.265 --> 00:27:40.404
And so for me, it was just these small little shifts that were happening until all of a sudden I became my next level, and I was entirely 180 different from the version that I was previously
00:27:41.653 --> 00:27:52.733
So it sounds like this first that you went through for yourself and that you brought to your clients, it was absolutely life-changing.
00:27:52.733 --> 00:28:00.314
And I'm curious, when you look at your journey,'cause we're talking about, I think you said 2015, or is that when you started was around 2015
00:28:00.381 --> 00:28:06.520
With, playing with this, it was probably 2013, 2014, and then 2015 is when I started to bring it with clients.
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:07.951
So it's been a while.
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Yeah.
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how has your personal life transformed with this?
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'Cause I love how you're showing up as a teacher and helping everybody with this, and I wanna hear more about that, but how have you seen yourself...
00:28:21.490 --> 00:28:30.309
So obviously you were able to, get the panic attacks to subside and get more into your power, but I'm just curious how, how that has looked since then
00:28:30.648 --> 00:28:31.269
Yeah.
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I would say I'm able to say the things that are in my heart, whereas before I would cower.
00:28:38.148 --> 00:28:46.618
I wouldn't even realize I was cowering, but, the good girl, people pleaser energy was ingrained so deep, and I think for so many of us as women it's ingrained so deep.
00:28:46.628 --> 00:28:57.449
But I'm able to actually say what I want and ask for what I want and, not feel guilty for it or dim my light when I'm around others, whether that's personal or professional.
00:28:57.449 --> 00:29:02.269
And also, I now live in California, and that was a dream of mine since I was a little girl.
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Like, that was something that I always, always, always wanted to do.
00:29:05.929 --> 00:29:07.509
And it's twofold.
00:29:07.528 --> 00:29:16.919
I was able to move because of the business, but also was able to make that life-changing move, literally move across the country with my husband and our dog and just say,"Let's do this.
00:29:16.919 --> 00:29:17.398
Let's start.
00:29:17.409 --> 00:29:32.078
We know no one, but let's start this entire life." that was the best decision that I ever did, but it came from this ability to trust myself, and I think that that's the core theme that this work has allowed me to do, was trust myself and trust that intuitive vision.
00:29:32.078 --> 00:29:41.199
Because moving to California and, like, literally uprooting everything, moving where there's no one that I knew, and it's like a different world out here in comparison to New York.
00:29:41.199 --> 00:29:42.499
It's almost night and day.
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In doing these things, you've gotta trust yourself.
00:29:44.628 --> 00:29:47.298
You've gotta trust that you are gonna figure it out.
00:29:47.298 --> 00:29:52.669
You've gotta trust that vision before anyone else knows and sees that it's possible.
00:29:53.499 --> 00:29:54.179
Self-trust.
00:29:54.179 --> 00:29:56.429
And I think as the healers, we can forecast.
00:29:56.429 --> 00:30:00.499
So, like, I got the vision, actually, this exact home that I'm in, I got it.
00:30:00.499 --> 00:30:03.138
I remember sitting and meditating in my New York apartment.
00:30:03.138 --> 00:30:05.138
I saw it, and I was like,"That's...
00:30:05.249 --> 00:30:09.388
I've never seen a home like that before." Like, just the archways and even the bathroom.
00:30:09.388 --> 00:30:12.219
Like, I remember I was having, like, a remote viewing and I was like,"This, I've...
00:30:12.548 --> 00:30:13.378
Where is this home?
00:30:13.388 --> 00:30:16.308
Like, I've never seen this home before." Found it on Zillow.
00:30:16.419 --> 00:30:18.608
We landed here, and I was, like, scrolling through.
00:30:18.608 --> 00:30:26.209
I was like,"I think this is the house." And then when I walked in, there was just this, like, visceral body, like, tingle.
00:30:26.259 --> 00:30:27.568
I wasn't even in the house.
00:30:27.568 --> 00:30:31.699
Like, I literally had just stepped in, and I could feel it.
00:30:31.699 --> 00:30:37.878
And I was like,"Whoa, this is the thing that I saw in my meditation." And so I could have not taken action, right?
00:30:37.878 --> 00:30:41.239
I could've been like,"Oh, that was just a dream," or like,"That's not...
00:30:41.288 --> 00:30:57.429
That's not for me." As intuitives, we have this gift of foresight, of being able to forecast, but the downside and the shadow to that is no one else sees it but you, and you've gotta trust yourself enough to show the fuck up and make that vision happen.
00:30:57.439 --> 00:31:04.979
So I think that's probably the biggest thing that I've noticed that this work has done for myself professionally, which has ripples in all areas of life
00:31:05.869 --> 00:31:08.539
Yes, and moving is a really big deal.
00:31:08.539 --> 00:31:12.720
And I know how vastly different California and New York are from each other.
00:31:13.339 --> 00:31:27.619
And I know how hard it is to follow that voice,'cause I had the same voice that told me almost three years ago to move to Idaho, which isn't as glamorous and as exciting as California, but I definitely got to live that life.
00:31:28.182 --> 00:31:28.432
Yes
00:31:28.630 --> 00:31:37.086
it does take a big leap of faith to trust your intuition And to your point, that's the hard part, is
00:31:37.386 --> 00:31:37.777
Yeah
00:31:38.076 --> 00:31:45.727
they can be the naysayer that's like,"Why would you do that?" But that's the very reason we're given this I feel like it's almost like a technology.
00:31:45.727 --> 00:31:51.606
Our intuition is just this roadmap that wants to come through, and it doesn't always make logical sense.
00:31:51.606 --> 00:31:53.631
Half the time when I get it, I'm like,"Wait, what?" But
00:31:53.931 --> 00:31:54.351
Yeah
00:31:54.406 --> 00:32:06.906
I just sit with it, and I just kinda always ask,"Okay, spirit, okay, divine, show me how you want me to implement this or how this is gonna come to fruition,"'cause I don't always know, and I'm sure you've lived that, too.
00:32:06.926 --> 00:32:11.277
So with your clients that you're helping,
00:32:11.689 --> 00:32:12.008
उहम्म
00:32:12.307 --> 00:32:19.166
they are gifted with all these beautiful healing moda- and I'm sure it's, I would assume it's, across the board different modalities.
00:32:19.227 --> 00:32:19.866
Is that true?
00:32:20.366 --> 00:32:21.517
With, with, oh,
00:32:21.586 --> 00:32:22.336
healers that you're
00:32:22.636 --> 00:32:24.557
yes, all across the board, all the things
00:32:25.096 --> 00:32:30.227
And so what are the places that you're seeing them get stuck at the most?
00:32:32.694 --> 00:32:35.244
I think there's two core themes that I see.
00:32:35.305 --> 00:32:43.464
for context, my work is rooted, of course, in kundalini and somatic movement, but it's also rooted in Chinese medicine and the elements.
00:32:43.464 --> 00:32:49.224
And so within that framework, there are five elements that we all have in our bodies.
00:32:49.224 --> 00:32:51.045
We have water, wood, fire, earth, metal.
00:32:51.045 --> 00:33:00.525
I share that because each archetype has a nervous system patterning, and the way that it shows up, and we all run on these patterns.
00:33:00.525 --> 00:33:06.184
So the two core patterns that I see are, one, it's like the overflowing healer.
00:33:06.184 --> 00:33:15.144
It's the healer that is so intuitive, so gifted, has so many ideas to the point where it's destabilizing.
00:33:15.194 --> 00:33:19.494
Like, it's so, so, so big, so lost in it, how big it could be.
00:33:19.494 --> 00:33:29.505
Like, unfortunately, their spirit team doesn't know time, so they're giving them, like, the 30-year vision, and they think they have to do it today, and they don't know where to get started.
00:33:29.515 --> 00:33:31.434
So that's a pattern that I see a lot.
00:33:32.105 --> 00:33:43.714
And the other one is probably actually more prevalent than that one, which is the person that was taught to just go, go, go, go, go, that was self-validating through...
00:33:43.714 --> 00:33:47.285
didn't have self-validation, was having validation from others and their achievements.
00:33:47.295 --> 00:33:49.615
So they were just the driven, the high performer.
00:33:49.984 --> 00:33:51.835
"Oh my God, you're so responsible.
00:33:51.845 --> 00:33:53.144
How did you figure that out?
00:33:53.154 --> 00:34:09.204
How did you get all those things done?" And just created an identity around performing and going bigger and being there for everyone, and somehow magically doing it all until one day the body taps out, the nervous system taps out, and you're so burnt out.
00:34:09.465 --> 00:34:41.985
And unfortunately, I see this a lot with my clients that live, in the Western world, live in America specifically,'cause that's, so deeply ingrained in our psyche, in our bodies, in our DNA, to have this whole identity around performance and,"I'm not sleeping because I'm working so hard." And unfortunately, when that happens to the healer, you've got, this big dream, this big vision, this calling that keeps returning to you, and you don't have the energy to lift it off because you're so burnt out.
00:34:41.985 --> 00:34:45.394
And then that creates a secondary story of,"I'm lazy, I'm unmotivated.
00:34:45.885 --> 00:34:48.715
Oh my God, I used to have all this energy, and now I can't do it.
00:34:48.724 --> 00:34:49.704
What's wrong with me?
00:34:49.704 --> 00:34:50.574
I'm so lazy.
00:34:50.574 --> 00:34:54.144
I should be able to do it." And, like, the spiral goes on.
00:34:54.144 --> 00:35:03.644
So I would say those are the two, key archetypes that I see in patterns of the nervous system specifically within intuitives and healers, That's what I see typically for my clients.
00:35:04.336 --> 00:35:07.527
Yeah, that could definitely apply to a lot of women.
00:35:08.677 --> 00:35:10.467
I could see not just with the healers.
00:35:10.467 --> 00:35:15.817
Yeah, I definitely could relate to that with the healers that I know, but specifically to women and how they run.
00:35:15.916 --> 00:35:22.347
I feel like on so many episodes this comes up because I think there's a collective conversation going on right now
00:35:22.980 --> 00:35:23.280
उम्म
00:35:23.327 --> 00:35:39.572
women are understanding and realizing on a deeper level that they're not supposed to run their bodies like little men, and that their desire to achieve and perform it's beautiful, but there's a certain way to do it that works with the rhythm of who they are.
00:35:39.873 --> 00:35:40.422
For sure
00:35:40.806 --> 00:35:47.396
that example you gave, I was the latter, where, it was very much identity driven.
00:35:47.536 --> 00:35:48.637
I used to be so...
00:35:48.666 --> 00:35:55.137
My identity was very attached to being a healer at one point, and it's something I do, right?
00:35:55.177 --> 00:35:56.536
But it's, I do many things.
00:35:56.536 --> 00:35:59.376
I'm a mother, I have so many hats that I wear in my life right now.
00:35:59.407 --> 00:36:07.206
But think that there's an identity crisis where we get so attached to something.
00:36:07.206 --> 00:36:14.606
And I think right now in the collective, that's another big thing that's happening, is you're serving something that's really important.
00:36:14.646 --> 00:36:28.666
Because if somebody's too attached to their identity, there is almost an, l- not enough flexibility to move, and to, like you said, to have the energy to do the things that they want to do.
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:29.259
Yeah.
00:36:30.018 --> 00:36:30.639
100%.
00:36:31.168 --> 00:36:35.148
So you're taking them through the process, are you doing all the...
00:36:35.188 --> 00:36:40.778
You're helping them rewire their subconscious it sounds like, and that's their neural pathways as well.
00:36:40.778 --> 00:36:49.898
And, how is it addressing,'cause you mentioned it, it's not even necessarily about having to know all the trauma, and I agree with, that because I do feel like you.
00:36:49.898 --> 00:36:51.309
It's a little bit of Whac-A-Mole.
00:36:51.777 --> 00:36:52.117
Yeah
00:36:52.418 --> 00:36:53.717
you discover one thing about you.
00:36:53.717 --> 00:36:57.273
if you're on the search, you can always find something that you need to
00:36:57.574 --> 00:36:58.014
For sure
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So I'm curious with the structure of how you bring in the Chinese medicine and the nervous system, what, where, does the trauma piece sit and how do you work with that?
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Yeah.
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So the methodology I've created is called body mapping, and there's three steps to it, and the first step is called reveal.
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And so what we're doing is, I call it your somatic eye, and I train people to look at the body and to become aware of the body, to pick up on what is that telling you about this person and what they have gone through.
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So the way that they're breathing, the way that your posture is, their eye gaze or even lack of eye gaze, the tone of voice, and even the way that they're moving or not moving will all give you indicators of the person's bo- It's like a score sheet.
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It's like this is what this person has gone through.
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So we don't necessarily have to go down, like,"What happened to you 10 years ago?
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it will naturally probably come up in conversation, but to get a good baseline of where the nervous system is, we can do that in just a couple of minutes looking at the person and looking at the body.
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And oftentimes it's what your intuition has been picking up on on this whole time, but your intuition didn't have concrete language or context to what it was picking up on, which is another block I see for healers.
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They're like,"How did I know that?
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What if it's the wrong thing?" So these five somatic signals that I train you in, it helps you to validate what your intuition has been telling you this whole time.
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And so once you've gathered that information, that's great.
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That's just giving you the current state of the nervous system.
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But now we have to say,"Who do you want to become, and what does your next level look like?" And so then we use that information to curate a somatic sequence that targets those areas of the body to release the traumas and release the beliefs, so that way The body can hold this next level that you're calling in.
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But it doesn't end there.
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That's step one and step two.
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Step three, now we have to deal with the person that's in front of us,'cause at that point we're just doing energy work, nervous system work, body work, but the mind is still here.
00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:08.690
And so we go back to the current state of the nervous system, and what I teach my students is how to actually use body-based coaching to essentially break the nervous system pattern.
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:14.949
So there's specific ways to ask questions that the mind finally, like the neural pathway, like it gives up.
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And you can see it on my live coaching calls.
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My students are always like,"What?
00:39:18.750 --> 00:39:26.460
I can't believe that."'Cause you'll see someone be a certain way, and then- Slowly as I'm asking those questions, things start to shift.
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Their bodies, they're starting to sit differently.
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All of a sudden then they have the breakthrough.
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And so for me, it's not one or the other, it's how do we bring all of this together?
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How do we weave in the coaching, the mind, the body, the nervous system, the energy?
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And so the trauma aspect, I wouldn't say I go looking for it or I even ask the past things that are coming up, because for me, I'm like, I...
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my role, at least, in this work is how do we continue to move forward?
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How do we move the needle forward?
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How do we become our next level?
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And if those things come up in the past, that's okay.
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Sometimes they come up because your body's releasing it, it's releasing memories, and sometimes the person just has to get it out.
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But I know my job for the work that I'm doing is to not go down that rabbit hole with them.
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It's to say,"Okay, let's keep it moving.
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Let's keep forwarding the action.
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Let's create a new neural pathway, and let's create a new pattern in the nervous system, so that way we actually become your next level." There are people out there that they are loving shadow work and trauma and all of that.
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It's just not my rodeo.
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It's just not what my calling is.
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but I think both are great and helpful.
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But just for me, it's that whole sequence of mind, body, energy, and then moving forward and becoming our next level
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Yeah.
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I think that's great that you know what works for you and that there are, plenty of people out there that can do the shadow work or the trauma
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Yes
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you get to serve at this level of who are you becoming and helping them.
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I think the big piece with that kind of work is the integration, right?
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It's like they kinda touch in and they feel into who they wanna be, then it's staying in that so that they don't slip backwards.
00:41:03.277 --> 00:41:11.038
And I'm so curious, when you were talking about these questions, like could you give an example of what kind of question gets them more into their body?
00:41:11.038 --> 00:41:14.077
So there's like certain type of questions that you use
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Yeah.
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So it's a whole framework.
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No
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be here for a while to go through, but it's a whole framework of, like, essentially how we are addressing the nervous system, and then based on the nervous system, this is why, it takes time because every question is unique to the person's nervous system in front of you.
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So you're using what their body is telling you to inform you as the coach what question to ask next.
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And then you're looking at these micro adjustments of how maybe the shoulders start to soften or maybe the eye gaze shifts, and then that will then inform the next question.
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And it's pretty cool to see, and watch because you can see how literally just in 10 minutes sometimes,'cause I'll do, hot seat coaching with my students so they can see it, their body is entirely different by the end of the 10 minutes because the questions were just targeting these specific areas of their nervous system.
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And then eventually the goal is, is to get the nervous system,'cause it's...
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Our nervous system is so great.
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I think it gets a bad rap.
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I think our body gets a bad rap.
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It's like,"Body holds trauma.
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Nervous system is dysregulated." It kept you safe.
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It did its job.
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It kept you safe.
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You are here.
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You are alive.
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But because it's kept you safe, it is wired so tight because it's like,"Oh, I got her to be safe.
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She's here.
00:42:23.713 --> 00:42:26.384
She's alive." You might not like your current reality.
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You might want more for yourself and for your life.
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But to your nervous system, it's like,"She's living.
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She's breathing.
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She's here listening to a podcast." Like, things are good.
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So it's wound so tight, and through the questions you can actually start to get that nervous system to start to break away, to start to ease a little bit, and you can see it in the body.
00:42:48.173 --> 00:42:55.864
And that is the goal, is to get the nervous system to a point where it softens, and then that's actually the gateway for transformation.
00:42:55.864 --> 00:43:05.833
I find that way too many healers and facilitators, they stop when the breakthrough happens or when the nervous system releases or if someone cries on the call and they're like,"All right.
00:43:06.074 --> 00:43:08.244
We did it." The crying for me, I'm like,"That is...
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we just got to the good stuff." At this point, the nervous system finally, exhaled, and now we can get in there and begin the rewiring process because the nervous system, I would say within the first 24 to 48 hours is when it's most malleable.
00:43:21.253 --> 00:43:26.744
So it's like in those moments is when we can really get in there and establish a new pattern.
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Yes.
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and you're so right.
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That breakthrough moment is so beautiful.
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Yes
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But it's afterwards, I know as, doing healing work myself, I love to take them into this space where once the breakthrough happens, I like to take them into the future, living as the person that's already in a new pattern and not dealing with the same thing that they were dealing with before, and really being in that embodiment of what it would feel like, and really having them think, okay, on a day-to-day basis, what would that look like?
00:43:58.222 --> 00:44:00.032
Like very, almost like kinda granular
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Yeah
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then it makes it practical because the integration piece and that malleability in the 24 to 48 hours is so important because where you kinda start to settle that energy in.
00:44:13.007 --> 00:44:13.447
उहम्
00:44:13.797 --> 00:44:18.686
I really think that's awesome, and I love how extensive your program sounds.
00:44:18.686 --> 00:44:30.847
It sounds really robust and really beautiful, and what you've created sounds like it really supports these coaches in being able to coach really well and take their gifts.
00:44:30.847 --> 00:44:36.266
So are they their healing gifts and then merging it with this coaching style that you're teaching them?
00:44:36.871 --> 00:44:37.271
Yeah.
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it could be both.
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Some people just take it and they're like,"This is what I'm doing and this is the thing." But most people, I would say like 95% of the women that join our certifications, already have some sort of skillset, gifts, abilities.
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And what I find, and what I shared earlier, is once you learn how to read the body, everything else will layer on top of it and work really well.
00:44:57.391 --> 00:45:02.521
So, like, the energy healing that maybe you're trained in, you're going to see your clients succeed.
00:45:02.532 --> 00:45:05.632
You're going to see that clearing hold so much more.
00:45:05.632 --> 00:45:16.731
Because a pattern that I saw for a lot of healers are,"My clients keep coming back each week with, like, the same block, the same pattern," or they repeated the pattern, they self-sabotage, they looped back.
00:45:16.742 --> 00:45:30.322
And once we're able to actually address the body, your clients are gonna think you are a magician because once they get on the table with you or do the energy work with you, it's going to actually stick and land versus it coming back and looping.
00:45:30.322 --> 00:45:34.802
So, we're changing the behavior of the body for everything else to work really well.
00:45:34.822 --> 00:45:37.751
So, most of our clients are using it in conjunction.
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They're using body mapping as, like, the initial foundation for their courses, programs, sessions, and then their other skills and tools layer on top of that, whether it's energy work, Akashic record reading, acupuncture, whatever it might be, it can just settle on top of it and work to its fullest
00:45:56.032 --> 00:46:08.802
Yeah, because the body, I feel like for so many years, When social media took off and everything was about channeling, intuitive healing, and all that kind of stuff, and myself, I will admit, I was always up here.
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I felt like I was always up here.
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And then in the last maybe five years, I got this deep of conversation with spirit of"Get in your fricking body." you can play up here all day long, but you need to be in your body.
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And that's when I started to feel like I did do a little bit of shadow work and trauma work on myself.
00:46:28.253 --> 00:46:34.233
But I had to learn how to inhabit this physical vessel, and I love that there's more conversation around it.
00:46:34.233 --> 00:46:45.943
And to your point when you were saying nervous system got somebody this far, and I think the nervous system gets a bad rap sometimes because there's all this stuff, oh, you have to have your nervous system regulated.
00:46:46.422 --> 00:46:52.112
And but sometimes being regulated is being upset or reacting in a certain way.
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It's not always being peaceful and calm, learning how to work with it.
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And so I think that's really incredible.
00:47:00.463 --> 00:47:06.182
I love what you're describing, and in a moment I wanna hear how people can work with you.
00:47:06.182 --> 00:47:13.362
But since you are such a pioneer, Brianna, I'm curious, where do you think healing is going next?
00:47:13.362 --> 00:47:21.733
Whether it's for you or just something that you're noticing around healing, because our collective, everything is changing so dramatically right now.
00:47:22.121 --> 00:47:23.362
Yeah.
00:47:23.362 --> 00:47:27.342
it's really beautiful, and I love that we get to see it change, grow, and evolve.
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And, you know, to what you shared earlier in the beginning, there was a lot of, like, intuitive work, channeling work, energy work, and now people are starting to remember,"Oh my gosh, I have this...
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There's a body here, and I don't have to always be channeling.
00:47:39.192 --> 00:47:48.681
I get to be here." And what I'm noticing is there is such an uptick in body-based coaching, somatic work, breath work.
00:47:49.101 --> 00:47:55.672
And with that, that's so great, people are being open and aware to it, but with that, there's also sometimes dilution.
00:47:55.681 --> 00:48:01.842
There's also people not teaching it in a safe way,'cause they're just excited and they wanna share what they know.
00:48:01.842 --> 00:48:14.572
And so I feel like the future of it is people just having more discernment with who they're hiring, working with people that can truly have, like, a track record and a proven process of this stuff actually working.
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'Cause we also have people that have been investing in courses and programs now for over a decade, and with that, there's shadow and light.
00:48:22.032 --> 00:48:27.041
So I just feel like people are becoming smarter and really listening to their intuition.
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When I say smarter, it doesn't always have to be intellectually, but, like, intuitive.
00:48:29.561 --> 00:48:30.891
Like, they're trusting themselves.
00:48:30.891 --> 00:48:36.351
They want to work with people that have depth, that have skill, that aren't just the flashy people on Instagram.
00:48:36.351 --> 00:48:47.422
I think that there's just this level of discernment that is coming for the healers, And so I feel like the future of healing is actually really bright for us, because it's going to be the people that actually have the skills and the gifts.
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We are going to thrive.
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We are going to lead that movement.
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People are actually going to be healed, and we're going to create an even greater ripple effect of light in the world
00:48:57.896 --> 00:48:58.577
Yes.
00:48:59.077 --> 00:49:00.447
Yes, and it's so true.
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The discernment is very much needed, and I feel like there's a of falling off of how people were just hiring anybody.
00:49:09.047 --> 00:49:09.626
And, there was...
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The coaching industry was really fun during 2020-21, where it was just like, I feel like it was like the Wild Wild West.
00:49:18.333 --> 00:49:22.902
I mean, it was just booming, and it was, it was, it was lovely.
00:49:22.902 --> 00:49:35.163
But I think people have gotten a little smarter, and now people are realizing just because somebody has a big Instagram account does not necessarily mean that they're gonna be this incredible healer.
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And I'm not saying...
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Somebody could be
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For sure
00:49:38.463 --> 00:49:43.893
at what they do and still have a huge following, but it's not always together like that.
00:49:43.902 --> 00:49:47.273
It's not always synergistic in the sense that, okay, big following, great healer.
00:49:47.282 --> 00:49:49.913
So you do really have to listen to...
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know that you're helping healers use their voice and express themselves.
00:49:55.213 --> 00:50:01.782
I'm curious, what would you say to healers that wanna get started that are afraid?
00:50:01.782 --> 00:50:05.043
Would you say get in your body and start doing that type of work?
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Yeah, but also like you're a healer, you're intuitive.
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Ask spirit, like,"What are my next steps?
00:50:10.275 --> 00:50:15.565
Show me a sign." And then take action on the sign, and like show the fuck up.
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'Cause
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Yeah
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spirit can only give you as many signs before it's going to push you where you're supposed to go.
00:50:22.956 --> 00:50:26.346
But also, like you all have such a gift.
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Don't discredit your ability to do this.
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Not everyone can do that.
00:50:30.726 --> 00:50:33.746
So channel the next step, channel the message.
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You have the capacity to do that
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Your passion is so fun.
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I love it.
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You're like,"Show the F up." Like, come on, people.
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But it's true.
00:50:42.436 --> 00:50:45.317
Without action, there's so many ideas we can get,
00:50:45.871 --> 00:50:46.052
Yeah
00:50:46.637 --> 00:50:57.306
I do believe that the divine channels certain ideas into the collective, and certain people are hearing it, and it's like, you gotta take action on it if you wanna see it come into being.
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Otherwise, it's not gonna happen.
00:50:58.907 --> 00:51:03.146
So where do people find you, Brianna, and what are you...
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Are you currently sharing anything or doing anything right now?
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:11.860
So I love hanging out on Instagram, so you can find me@iambriannarose.
00:51:11.860 --> 00:51:14.250
It's really me there, So slide into my DMs, say hello.
00:51:14.329 --> 00:51:15.909
I will actually say hi back.
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It's me.
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I love to connect in that way, and right now my big focus is my certification.
00:51:21.289 --> 00:51:25.840
I want more embodied healers, because the certification also has an entire business component to it.
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:30.469
So I teach you the skills, but also show you how to actually bring those skills out into the world.
00:51:30.969 --> 00:51:35.050
Lesson plans, masterclasses, putting your offers together, all of that.
00:51:35.050 --> 00:51:43.760
So if you just feel called to teach at this level, I would love to support you or at least share what the certification is and see if it's an aligned fit
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Thank you, Brianna, for being here today and sharing all your beautiful gifts with us
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Thank you so much.
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This was amazing
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