Ep. 05: Home-schooling, Connection & The Education Paradox

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Hey Dylan, what was your favorite part of today's episode?
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I like one Reggie forgot he got homeschooled.
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I like when they talk shit about billionaires.
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Oh yeah.
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Ah, Dylan took my mind, no no no, I'll say, when Dylan said she would be, if she didn't
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go to homes, if she would have gone to homeschool she would be at, with the word, a degenerate.
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I like that thing Tim said about billionaires.
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Oh, a world that only has.
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Mine was also finding out that Reggie was homeschooled.
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I think today had it's highlight.
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I'm going to be literally, yeah, people enjoy it.
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It's nice when you get together.
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It was like, yeah man.
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Yeah man, I was just thinking like, oh me, so me solid, good people were like there.
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I was like, man you're right.
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Not even like read not even start even that again, but actually bring together the old night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you have
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Reboot
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We're doing come back to game. Let's do it game night reboot man. I would love that
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All right
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You guys are my kind of silly
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Hey, wait, how did you
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I say this is just arriving. I watched the remodeling and it was really good. Okay, just pointed everybody and tell them what they are
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Okay, there's a thing I have to tell you about the room at one anyway. Okay. Hi
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Welcome to age. My name is Dylan. I'll be the host today. This is Mary green. This is Tim
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Strogs and then this is Reggie
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Tidwell and we work here at 40 hearts a creative company and today we're gonna be talking about these topics and the trash can
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We're gonna pull one and we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna say what we like. We don't like about it
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And then we're gonna bring it back to business
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Such a load
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Wrong. We're gonna talk about these topics out of the trash can and make sure you go show it to the camera because we figured out
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That's like a work compelling image than our selfie
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So I like we'll use the selfie somewhere great, but I still take the selfie for yeah, sorry
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I wrote these in and so I kind of wrote this one. Oh, it's one of hers. I'm scared. No, it's not one of mine. Oh
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It's just that
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For June from middle school
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Okay, and then put me back in high school. Wow, so I missed the whole
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Crazy middle school experience and then I came back in the high school to like hey, where you been?
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The worst part of the worst part of school. No, no, I peaked in middle school
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No, I was playing a French horn like we were talking about I was like a total band geek
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But like it was before everybody figured out what a band geek was
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Little school very formative time, I would say
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Yeah, people get kids get really intense in middle school
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Weird when I was I substitute taught here in Buckeye County for
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Yeah, I'm still technically like certified not certified like a teacher, but like whatever certificate I had to get it was it was
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Early 25 there was like a lot of
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Trauma from the previous year and like I wanted to be around kids
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But the reason I'm bringing this up is because you have to do this training on the different like grade groups and what behavior is like in middle school and
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Late elementary school if the time where kids start to sort of prioritize their social relationships
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Over their family relationships
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Because they've got to figure that out like they figured out the family dynamic and now they're figuring out where they fit in the world at large
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So what an interesting time to be pulled out to be pulled up completely I that might all be bullshit if this is taught me anything
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It's that I don't remember things so I'm so sorry, but that's what I think
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I haven't taught no while. I've got a pizza story about
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Well, okay, so what what came to my mind immediately was not that I went even though I said it
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It's that for me having been homeschooled
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I got to eat a lot of homeschool kids because that mean
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Oh, I'm a co-op school kid. Yeah, I co-ops and yeah, and so I got to see a little odd
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Oh, yeah, in like the best way like I think that's the beauty, right?
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Well, I don't know. I bet it's the best way you know when you're a kid and you think things are different and weird
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I kind of thought they're weird, but the only homeschool kids I knew we're from
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Community theater programs. So that tells you something about the flavor. Yeah, I think if I was a far older in
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Met homeschool kids, I'm like they're unique. They're like the differentiator out of kids at the time
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They were weird. They were weird. It was a very niche. I mean, it was in the
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Late 80s, so it was a very niche thing to be homeschooled. I think one of the things that makes them unique is that
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They don't have the typical social cues that skews that they're getting from their peers in a fashion setting with the
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masses, right? So they get to actually be
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Radically unique, radically authentic themselves instead of trying to follow any kind of trends or anything like that. It also feels like
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Fascinating. Yeah, definitely fascinating. It feels like they like adopt their family culture really strongly without maybe
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Realizing it. I don't know to have gone through elementary school and come up the other side. I think it's a very different experience
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Yeah, the kids I was I was meeting had been homeschooled their entire
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And the ones that I knew who had been through that track were like very niche interests
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Often that like aligned with their parents interest just because that was all you really knew
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But what's your what came to your mind? I feel a lot of good friends that are homeschooled. Yeah
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Is that big deal Franklin the homeschool? Yeah big
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If you're homeschooled in Franklin, it's almost like cult like or like kind of like you know like nobody talks to those people like
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I don't know anyone from Franklin that was homeschooled. You think it's like a political statement to homeschool their kids?
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I think so like a libertarian yeah, it's like a
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We believe in this like better and like I think homeschool is like really cool
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Especially if you like if you have your like opinions on the world figured out and everything like that
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You felt like the time to did it eight kids. I think it's a really great idea
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We can't know like nobody was homeschooled Franklin
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But how did you feel about homeschooling kids homeschooling homeschools kids when you were young?
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I never saw it
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She's like I never like they're chatter. No like there was I didn't even know like homeschool is a thing until I was a freshman of on treat
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It's really in college. That's why like the only way I encountered them was in like clubs and stuff out in the world
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Because you were doing sports presumably through school. Yeah, and like I like where would you?
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Yeah, public school like everybody knew everyone
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I probably had this in my experience. I thought that was fun in college when I
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You came aware of homeschool because you'd meet people
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Yeah, when you'd ask them about like their school experience or where they went
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And you know like I was homeschool. Yeah, but when you're younger
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It's rare that you will come in contact because you're meeting friends at school. Yeah
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Yeah, you're meeting your friends all your friends are at school and that's where you and all the homeschoolers hanging out together
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Yeah, my kids weren't homeschooled but
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When we started this Montessori journey
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The first their first introduction to it besides a quick little stint
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When when the girls were younger was
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The Montessori homeschool collective Asheville was it Asheville Montessori homeschool collective was actually the name and so it was in the name
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But it was in a building so we would basically it's in the same building their school is now
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So we would drive our kids to school
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Even though it was the homeschool collective and it was basically
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It was a regular curriculum, you know, but it still had the I think the
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One of the things I miss about it
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Now that they're in a natural charter and they have to do all the state regulated things
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Was that they had a little more freedom within their day to like choose their path in a journey and then school didn't start right at eight o'clock
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Like it does now they could get there and they have a little time to hang out in the
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In the play area and like the you know, and so now it's like everything is so like
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regulated and structured
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And so I missed that but it was a cool experience for them how many years were they in the
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They were just there for one year and then the whole school became a charter
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See that name actually sounds like a bunch of homeschoolers coming you got needed a community
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Created a collective yeah, and then it started to become a school at a hundred percent
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But that's probably literally how every school started
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Yeah, a lot of them a lot of them started I read this book. I'm not gonna tell you the name of it because I get remember
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I got it for free it from the Friends of Bunkham County Library
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Oh, that's it. Yeah, picked it up. Thank you, but it was it's the history of the United States told through the lens of politics and religion
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And so a lot of the early schools were religiously
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Yeah, and that actually was one of the issues when you talk about state regulation a lot of their reason that stuff came in is because
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You start getting this division of church and state and people wanted an education
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But maybe they didn't want to send their kid to Catholic school where there options were there
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Actually, it's hard in Yale and all these old schools were church
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Oh, yeah, the mason's are still down there man those free mason's the free mason's there do that needs to be a topic in the trash can
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I don't know what we would say my dad's a free mason. Oh, his dad is a free mason. You're supposed secrets to us. I'm not
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We'll put him behind a curtain
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Won't work now, but he wanted me to join there's a woman's one. Oh the something of the
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Eastern stars
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Tell us about homeschooling. What was that like you said two years? It was it was like free play
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So when you're a kid wait wait, sorry, sorry, sorry, I need to context two years. Were your brothers also? Yeah, yeah
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Okay, did you get homeschool with anybody else? It was just the three of us, okay
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But my you know, I grew up in church. So my we had some like other kids that we would get together with
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We're homeschooling kids. Yeah, and so I guess for me it was exactly my middle school years from my little little brother. It was
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I think last of his elementary and maybe one of his middle school years
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Brother miss his first year of high school
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Oh, I don't know who got the short straw. I feel like I got the perfect scenario because you want to miss
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Hello
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HVAC made a crazy sound
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You so you want to miss for me
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I
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We traveled around a lot so I went to every elementary school in my dish in the area like I
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In Ottawa and Hendersonville and Fletcher and there was all these school so when I left for middle school
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It was like I disappeared and when I reappeared in high school. I knew everyone
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Because everyone came together in high school
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Out of their elementary school. Yeah, and so every in
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Innocious formed or I don't know clicks form in the school
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That's where all the like the tightening groups form. Yeah, and so I had no clicks
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So I was a friend with all of the clicks
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Yeah, it was
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Are you me? Am I seeing myself in you because I'm like yes, cuz Franklin did this thing like each year in my elementary years like
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I went to a different elementary school each year. Wow. That was similar. Yeah, and it was like this
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They were like reclassing they were like doing the districts or whatever. Yeah, and
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It was wild because I was like I always had this like irrational feel like I was getting kicked out of school each year
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Cuz my mom was like you're going to a new school
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I was like, yeah, I was like why? Yeah, cuz you have to read for my friend group every time you go to elementary school
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Can I tell you I've always had a chip on my shoulder about this
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But now I need to let just let the chip go because obviously it could have been worse
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But I had this experience in the first like four years of school
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I would make a best friend and then they would leave they would like move away or something
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And I've always felt like that changed a little bit of my trajectory
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But this sounds like five times worse in these it was crazy feeling yeah
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Because you make good friends and I only sell it against my parents because I would
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I would have friends that knew their friends and they can remember
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Not knowing that and so they were really tight and so the devilage part of the sword that I was
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Holding in this experience is that I also didn't have that really really close
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Like really tight
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Everyone knew me and I was pretty popular because of it, but not I didn't feel close to anyone
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I think this is why you don't like to join groups now
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Great maybe it's like
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Maybe you're like killing the trauma that's like it because you're like saying everything and I'm like, oh, that's
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Hold punch
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This is only a reason
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It is like to form into like a like a
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That type of closeness and my I think my parents also talked about
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That being something that keeps others out and you know in church are always like trying to include people
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And so you can't create a tight-knit group of people because that leaves others out right
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So I was always having to be friends with people I didn't know or didn't necessarily
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Vibe with in ways yeah, just because that was expected when you're in the
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Religion yeah, it's people you wouldn't normally hang out with you could find a relationship with them
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But I was always and it's only recently that I've started creating these really close
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Like guy relationships
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It is sort of like a weird
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juxtaposition of like
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You are expected to build and find community with people who are around you whether you like them or not or you share interests or not or whatever
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And yet we're going to extract you and put you in a new community repeatedly
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So it's like you're kind of like a sleeper agent, but like it's all right
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We're building community engaged and then you've got to like never get to say around and read the benefit
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Right, I didn't have that experience where I went from like K through five
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Was all in ones like school and school system
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And then for six grade I went to like a magnet school then for seventh grade
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I went to another school
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And then I tested so high in that school
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That I got like the on the comprehensive test
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I got like the highest in that and language in the whole school and they're like you need to be somewhere
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So then that went to like a more advanced school
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So I did three separate like you know middle school experiences
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And then when I got to high school same thing
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Somebody there were people from each one of those three places that were there. We all came back together
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It was like a big reunion and it was pretty exciting like high school was why I really
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Found several clans because I was a job because I was a varsity basketball starter. I was a computer nerd. I was a
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Just a nerd in general, and so I was friends with all these black nerd I love everybody and then I had friends that were there was
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There was like a Latino community. There was there were friends that were from Vietnam. So I had
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Was it friends with everybody and I think what a nice guy this is like see the extrovert maybe life
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That's totally that's how I like and it's I feel like I'm still the same way
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It's like well see I had the feeling that everyone was looking at me in new me
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But I didn't actually connect any of them. Yeah, I know I felt like Mrs
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I grew up in only China so I was constantly trying to connect because I was it was just me most of the time
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So it's like all my friends became like siblings
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So hey people I love I love seeing that I had a best friend who had friends like that all of his friends
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Party together and Nate and so I always had an awkwardness when I hang out with people because I didn't feel like
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I could be myself and they were literally themselves with each other all the time
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Would call each other and I had phone you know if you have phone anxiety like you don't want to call people
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That's such a like yeah, I feel so strange that this side of me and saying it so that sounds like a younger people thing
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Oh, yeah, like you didn't have a choice in the ladies
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I was just and I still hate phone calls to this day. Oh, I called him all the time
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You love and it's actually helping me. Yeah, because when I get when I I find and if there's anyone out there out
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Else out there who feels like this disconnect? Yeah, if you if you find if you make a point to be with people consistently
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That's when you start to feel that closeness. Yeah, you know, it's still like if we're together every day
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Yeah, we're calling each other consistently. It doesn't get weird anymore. Well, I'm like when I call you. You're not like
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It's gonna have at least I hope not maybe you know, maybe for now
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Here goes, okay
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There are people they call me though. I'm like all right get ready. All right, so why are you always hyperventilating?
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Dude a FaceTime is a different level though
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I know
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But Reggie and I were friends years ago. Yeah, like we met when I was first
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graduating college and
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Only recently when we started working out together do we become really close friends really close and I think it's partially my fault because I don't let people in
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I was always trying to get in like do we should grab on school kids?
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No, but when we started to see each other three times a week it was like friendship started to happen
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Like somebody told me this maybe I told
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He told me that that transparency is not connection
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And I was I was in all this
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Like you you draw the you pull the blinds up and people can see you through the window
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But it's more of like a like someone looking at you the window still there right the window still there and we always thought transparency because I have a transparency to me
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But he said and then I said to him I said I feel like connection is being able to open the window
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And let people in to your life as a college
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Or maybe the door even
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Don't just look at them through the window
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The door is at the end. It's a big opening
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So how do you think that so connection?
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Oh, that's a good one
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If you hadn't asked me I could have told you
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Oh, she has her brain. She has her brain
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Yes, she has there's a take off. I have just we can find it. I'll show you
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So how do you think she played lead she played lead she played lead
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Give us the date
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Don't say that
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Close to etherage is out and like outside and probably yeah
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She's gonna do
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You don't know who she is
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I feel like I'll know a lot more about the list after this
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I do feel like I know her personally now
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Yeah, I was gonna ask clearly the homeschooling changed something clearly something
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Clearly something wrong
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Homeschooling things do you feel like that's affected like your work life and how you go about conducting or you know
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You've sounded several businesses
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I wonder I've never thought about it this deeply actually you know when I brought up the Baylor thing
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The last episode by going to a private high school. Oh, yeah, I think I wanted to because I saw those first
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That was actually a middle school Baylor. Oh really?
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And high school. So are you live? I was on this way anyway. I don't remember that I was here anyway
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I wanted to go to this private school
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I'm casting with someone else. Are you kidding? No?
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No, no, so I wanted to go to this private school. No, I'm thinking about it
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I think it was because my own school he had disconnected me and I saw these it was a private school where they slept on campus
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It was in shadow
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Where my grandparents lived and I wanted to sleep away at the school
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I think because of that disconnect
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Well, but also the family thing and I'm not saying you're trying to get distance from your family
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But I'm saying when you're home school
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Let me take the part that is me and put it in a special place
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I think home school obviously takes a certain amount of family makeup
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Like not every family can afford for one parent to stay home and not work
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to be able to teach the other
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But when we were younger, that was more common
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Things were a lot cheaper
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The insulation is going crazy since then
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You just be able to get a gas for a dollar a gallon
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When I was a kid, I didn't fill it up by 14 gallons
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I remember being in the gas station together
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That was crazy
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That was kind of very important
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We couldn't have in our own conversation
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We can't do that on age
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Yeah, that's like the last gas project
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We're breaking some age rules over here having our own time
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I was wondering what gas costs
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When she started driving
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I think gas was like $2.00 when I started driving
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Yeah, prime COVID when I was like really putting pedal to a level
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That's like almost back to my high school days
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When would gas be like $0.90 a gallon at one point
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I was the first one to drive around
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Should have bought a house then
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Should have bought a house then
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No, yeah
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But that's the thing is that my dad works
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And my mom never works
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Because we have three kids
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Yeah, yeah
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So someone had to stay home
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Yeah, so someone had to stay home
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But now you can't do that
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Three kids are in the daycare or whatever it is
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Daycare is really expensive
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But school, if you're in a public school
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Or a charter school that doesn't cost
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That seems to be the best case in there
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I do think home school is one of those quiet luxuries
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That people really don't talk about a lot
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Because I think for having someone in your family
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Whether it's the husband or wife
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Being able to dedicate their work
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To the betterment of the kids
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I think it's really crazy that we can't really
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It's not it
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You have multiple people that are dedicated to
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Doing home schooling
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It's really hard and not feasible
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Never mind teaching a bunch of subjects
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That you don't know nothing about
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That's what we prefer home playing
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And home eating
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Just because it's so easy
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Big fan of home eating
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You don't like playing
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The master
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No, we were traveling
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We home school the kids for a year
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And it's more
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Just glue them to a screen
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They glue them to a screen
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Yeah, like Khan Academy
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Khan Academy is so good
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But what's interesting is
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Because the resources exist
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You just have to access them
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Through this course
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Khan Academy is a great resource
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But I don't know that these are great
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The next reason I used to work in here
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That were for Khan Academy
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I almost disagree
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Disassociated with school at that point
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I think there's a lot of balance
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That with the actual hands-on teaching
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But I don't even think that's
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There are the wealthy people in the world
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Send their kids to Waldoer schools
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Where there's no technology
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Because it gets in the way of teaching
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The word education comes out of
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Like a Greek word that means to pull
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To draw out
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Someone like with Spanish
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The teacher is my astrologer
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That is the point
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It's not to stuff information into someone's space
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And have them regurgitate it
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Which is literally what digital school is
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It's just like learn this, take this test, get the numbers
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And my son, I think, disassociated with everything he was learning
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He's smart
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So he made the grades
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But he was like, he had no heart in it
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Older kids?
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He's in turn 17
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So I think he was desperate to get out of it
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I think we shifted so
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Where he wasn't homeschooled
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And he had friends around him all the time
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In his journey
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But how does this line up with COVID?
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COVID did shift things back
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That's what I think that's why a lot of kids
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Had so much struggle during COVID
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Because they were so used to being with their cohort
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They're on digital classes
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They're on digital and doing the digital classroom thing
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Which was, I mean, I think a lot of kids are still
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Healing from natural
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You missed when we had an episode on remote with Adrienne, episode three
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I think
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And Dylan was sharing
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She was in like the late high school years
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So we're, we're doing it together
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Her senior year, she missed out like she was doing the on screen learning
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I remember her being in her bedroom
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But she was living with us at the time
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And she just had her laptop there
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She's just like, you know, the teachers talking to them
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And you can see
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But like bringing like work home
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Oh yes, it was like
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This untanny
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Well, and like all the bad stuff that has to do with school
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And none of the good stuff
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And like the senior friends
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Yeah, exactly
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It's like all the worst
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So every kid during COVID experienced homeschool
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Totally
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Yeah, in a way
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Absolutely
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But it wasn't like that
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So here's an interesting distinction
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When you brought in the digital or when my kids were doing it on digital devices
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There is a disconnect between what homeschool was when I went
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Where my mom was watching over our schooling
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And then now you're like, you just put in a room and you have to watch the sky go through all of that
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But you know, there are some courses
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I'm not saying that all of school is like this now
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There are definitely some courses
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Where that's what the educator in the classroom is doing too
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Where it's like there's modules
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There's overseeing a computer that makes me so upset
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They go to a physical school
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And then they put them on a laptop
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That's crazy
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I think it would be really sad if the homeschool revolution turned into this whole digital revolution
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Where homeschooling dismay
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That the parent can be doing chores and everything while the kids are in front of some TV with some digital lifestyle
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Like that to me is very sad
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However, I don't think that the tablets should be completely titled
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I agree
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I think there's ways where it could be a supplemental learning tool
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Or maybe you have this one module that you do and it's mostly self-guided
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But then 80% of the day the parent is actually working directly with the kid
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I feel like that would be a good balance because I think if you remove technology
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Then you put the kid at a disadvantage
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That's what everyone says
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But notoriously, they're really wealthy, restrict the devices until a late age
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They have an email babies or nipple babies
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No, because I don't think you can learn anything from a device that is more valuable than what you can learn from human contact
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It depends on you
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I think they're all like they don't have any experience or wealthy crappy teachers
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Have you all seen me type to write emails?
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Yeah, I type well because I was taught to type in the third grade
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And I was taught in a computer lab by a computer program
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I would say yeah
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00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.000
So my comfort, I mean there was a computer lab instructor
473
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.000
And she actually knew quite a bit about, compared to everybody else at the elementary school
474
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:35.000
She knew a lot about computers
475
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:39.000
But just the fluency with the interface alone
476
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:43.000
I think is important because I needed to grab that technology
477
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:47.000
And that's a skill that if I hadn't had it, going to college would have been more difficult
478
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.000
Doing my job would have been more difficult
479
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.000
So this is when I think about homeschooling
480
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:55.000
And when I think about how that does or doesn't impact my life at work
481
00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:00.000
I think well, there's something really cool about being able to pursue your niche interests
482
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.000
That was one of my favorite things about the homeschoolers that I met
483
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.000
It's like they developed these hobbies
484
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.000
And they seem to have a sense of what they liked and didn't like
485
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:12.000
That maybe I didn't have because I was trying to figure out what other people liked
486
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.000
Because that was just the world I was in
487
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:20.000
But I do think that you miss out on a lot of the social stuff
488
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.000
And on the cultural norms that are being established through school
489
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:30.000
And it is at the end of the day kind of a pipeline for labor in this country
490
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:35.000
It's like you go to school to go to another school to go to another school to go into certain jobs so that we can have doctors
491
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:37.000
And so I feel like there is some...
492
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:38.000
I don't think it's a pipeline though
493
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.000
If you watch kids getting into college now, they don't have jobs
494
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:43.000
Right, and that's why I think entrepreneurship is spiking
495
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:47.000
Because they learned... they don't have to learn the material for the SATs
496
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.000
They just hack the test
497
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.000
So I would say what is the most important skill in entrepreneurship?
498
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.000
Related to...
499
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.000
Related to...
500
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.000
Related to not bullshits
501
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:56.000
Resortions
502
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.000
Like nobody knows how to use an iPad to be an entrepreneur
503
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.000
You have to know how to have connections
504
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:07.000
And I think what we're being taught by these big digital companies is that you need it in your life
505
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.000
Because they need you to need it, because that is their income
506
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.000
That is their... that's what how they make money
507
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.000
There is also this... have you seen that it's a joke
508
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:20.000
But it's also not a joke about how like the higher up in the lab on the ladder you get the smaller your screen gets
509
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:24.000
So like the highest levels of business they're just doing it like on their phone
510
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:25.000
They're not having to enter
511
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.000
They don't have to be the drones
512
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:28.000
You used to be the vices
513
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:32.000
But do you think that's an older people's thing?
514
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:37.000
Because I do think the people sitting at the very top of these pyramids for the most part are older people
515
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.000
Who maybe didn't come up through a world that had all this technology
516
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.000
But I look at the people who are heading up startups
517
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:46.000
Like we just had a phone call with the client last week, this week
518
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:52.000
That he's like worked with AI to build his own dashboard to like
519
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:57.000
Update his whole company about the money and operations
520
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:02.000
I won't go into detail, but that's a very modern high tech approach
521
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:03.000
He's an engineer
522
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:08.000
I wonder if more people are going to be getting their hands dirty because they have a level of comfort with these tools
523
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:11.000
I mean obviously people are going to get their hands dirty, what other directions do they have?
524
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:15.000
But if everything is forced down one channel, that's your option
525
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:22.000
It's like if you have to be a tech startup or if you have to have a YouTube podcast to even be successful
526
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:28.000
You're in the attention economy right now and they will say you have to ask any marketing person
527
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.000
What's the best form of marketing? Create content?
528
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.000
Yeah, right now
529
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:36.000
Across the board, so when you're forced to do something, what option do you have?
530
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:40.000
Unless you create a cohort of people that are willing to push against it
531
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.000
Do you sound very conservative?
532
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:43.000
What I will say
533
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.000
I don't know if that's concerned, that sounds rebel right now
534
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.000
I will say that
535
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:55.000
The technology in the home school environment, to some degree, at least does keep them on the same playing field as the kids in school
536
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.000
Because the kids in school do have to play
537
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:01.000
Yeah, but what happens on technology in school is bullying excitedly
538
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:02.000
No, no, no, no
539
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.000
So I think that you're just saying that using it
540
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.000
No, no, I'm talking about using it, I'm talking about in the context of the classroom
541
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:13.000
I'm not talking about social media and stuff, I'm talking about what Mary experienced, learning a type on a computer
542
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.000
I know how to use Microsoft Word
543
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.000
Yeah, they're doing these things and they're learning computer skills in the context of the classroom
544
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:25.000
So it makes sense that if you're doing home schooling that you should at least have some percentage of their
545
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:26.000
Right, but get this
546
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:31.000
When I went to college, I was so mad at my professors for not teaching me the software
547
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.000
The computer technology
548
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:37.000
And they looked at me and they said, I'm teaching you something at a higher level
549
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.000
Because the technology will change
550
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.000
Kids that learn how to type, they don't need to type now
551
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.000
They just speak it
552
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.000
Yeah, my son doesn't know how to type
553
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.000
He literally put on some pecs and does speak stuff into his device
554
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.000
So I'm saying that the technology will change
555
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:53.000
So if you spend your time trying to learn the technology
556
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.000
They will only evolve it
557
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.000
To a point you learn flash and then they took flash away
558
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.000
And then you had to re-learn it
559
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.000
I know you had to re-learn it and animate
560
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.000
But I'm just saying that they learn it
561
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.000
That was the cool thing was that all the stuff that I had learned before was flash
562
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.000
All stayed, I had all that effort
563
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.000
But most people that learned flash were out of job
564
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.000
Tournament, it changed the system
565
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.000
Oh absolutely
566
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.000
And now AI is changing the system too
567
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.000
People that learned technology
568
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.000
AI is doing it for them
569
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.000
Anything you can do on a device right now can be done by AI
570
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:26.000
So you want to say that teaching kids in school
571
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.000
How to use a device and now AI can do for them
572
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.000
Is a good learning experience, it's not true
573
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.000
Maybe it's that you need to learn how to learn
574
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.000
To learn what you need to learn
575
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:38.000
But you can do that in absence of a hands-on
576
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.000
Totally
577
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.000
You can't learn how to encounter and engage with new technology
578
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.000
Without encountering and engaging with new technology
579
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.000
I think it's the same experience that you had in college
580
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:50.000
That you're not teaching them how to use the iPad
581
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.000
You're giving them an experience through the iPad
582
00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:00.000
But that is to say, right, that is to say that your teacher is not just outsourcing their mentorship
583
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.000
Their presence, their teaching to the iPad, which is what's happening
584
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:08.000
We're not having teachers that are caring and guiding people through
585
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.000
And this is the iPad
586
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.000
No, everyone can load this page while I go into this
587
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:18.000
Can I also say, though, I've observed this through buying courses
588
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.000
From continuing ed as an adult
589
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.000
I've experienced this through being a substitute teacher in a public school setting
590
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.000
I've experienced this through watching
591
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:30.000
Nises and nephews go through online school and seeing what that curriculum is like
592
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:36.000
And I'll say 50% of it is not just a teacher like tuning out and saying
593
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.000
I'm not going to do my job, watch this video
594
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:42.000
But it's also like the connection between students and teachers
595
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:46.000
Is much more like it's high stakes
596
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.000
But it's also a tenuous
597
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.000
Like teachers, I'm going to go on a tangent
598
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.000
But I promise I'll bring it back
599
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.000
Teachers right now are basically like bodyguards for kids
600
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:58.000
Like we're not protecting kids in schools and everybody knows that
601
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:02.000
And the teachers have 15 other jobs, aside from actually teaching kids
602
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.000
And half the time the kids are in
603
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.000
Like the kids were the greatest thing about substitute teaching
604
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.000
But you could see the toll that the last decade of life has taken on young people
605
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:18.000
And they are burnt out, teachers are burnt out
606
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.000
Nobody believes in this system
607
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.000
So I think at the end of the day when I think about the discrepancy
608
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:28.000
And the things that you're describing people just like putting kids on iPads
609
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:32.000
I get really sad because I'm like I don't think anybody wants that
610
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:36.000
And I also think that I imagine this ideal state where teachers
611
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:40.000
Like attracted students, you know, like oh I want to go study with
612
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.000
Fill in the blank Socrates, that was like the thing that drew you to college
613
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:48.000
You wanted to go study under somebody who had this subject matter expertise
614
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:52.000
It's been denigrated to such like a low tier
615
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:56.000
Like unpaid basically like volunteer jobs
616
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.000
We don't value it anymore
617
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.000
So of course we're outsourcing it to technology
618
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.000
Because we don't think that it's important
619
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:08.000
And my son was just talking at the dinner table last night about his teachers
620
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.000
And what he considers to be a good teacher
621
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.000
And my daughter too, she was talking about this one specific teacher
622
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.000
And the way that they engage and the way that they make sense of the subject
623
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:22.000
And then my son brought up his chemistry teacher
624
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.000
He loves his chemistry teacher
625
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.000
And he said the reason he loves him
626
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.000
Because he sees that he loves what he's doing
627
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:34.000
And he describes this other teacher as someone who is just kind of rattling off things
628
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.000
And he's not really into it
629
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.000
And I thought that was so interesting that he's seen this
630
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.000
And it's so obvious
631
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.000
That when someone is loves what they do
632
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:50.000
And I can hear you, like I feel like teachers are paid some of the most horrible rates
633
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.000
And North Carolina is mostly that
634
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.000
A lot of work and have a ton of responsibility
635
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:58.000
So I think it's the bullshit billionaires who should give some money to the fucking teachers
636
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.000
I don't understand what that damage is
637
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.000
Why does someone have to have a bunch of billion dollars
638
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.000
And while these teachers are trying to teach with 40,000 years
639
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:10.000
Because clearly we don't care about kids on the level that we pretend to care about kids
640
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:12.000
And we're going to figure that out
641
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.000
But I think when you talk to me about your son's chemistry teacher
642
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:18.000
It just makes me remember teachers that I've had who got really excited about the subject
643
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:22.000
Or like actually engaged with the subject matter
644
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.000
And then also with me as a student
645
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.000
And those became my favorite subjects
646
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.000
Whether I was good at them or not
647
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.000
Kind of like didn't factor in because
648
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.000
And they lifted me
649
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.000
They sort of like helped me get there
650
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.000
Instead of like abandoning me
651
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.000
And the next one is you should listen to my son
652
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.000
He's like, you're good at this, I'm going to push you harder
653
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.000
You literally said that to your point and blank
654
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.000
Yeah, like you were something about that connection
655
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.000
And they did a study on school
656
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.000
Because there's so many different types of school now
657
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.000
Anyone has kids out there
658
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.000
It's a nightmare to try and figure out where your kids are going to go
659
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.000
Whether it's home school, charter school
660
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.000
Waldor school
661
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.000
There's just so many different types of school you can go to
662
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:02.000
My day you just went to whatever the public school is in your district
663
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.000
Yeah, it was so easy
664
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.000
It's so possible
665
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.000
What schools are actually working
666
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.000
Even in charter schools, charter schools are like
667
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.000
We're going to do it different
668
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.000
And they just end up becoming the same thing
669
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.000
I'm just this, I'm this person all the time
670
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.000
But what does it mean to say a school is working
671
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:22.000
Well the child arrives, the student arrives
672
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.000
Is healthy?
673
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.000
Yeah, like I think socially
674
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.000
Psychologically
675
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.000
And it was tutors
676
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.000
Just like the old school
677
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.000
I like times tutoring
678
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.000
Even in ancient times tutoring is the best form of education
679
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.000
Because it's one connection
680
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.000
Because someone is mentoring
681
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.000
They're connecting to you
682
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.000
That's why I think devices are a bullshit scheme
683
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.000
To keep us all in our heads
684
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.000
Because someone needs to draw you out
685
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.000
Even if you have a device around you
686
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.000
And you can have
687
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.000
I know they say about Bill Gates
688
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.000
If Eddie not have access to
689
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.000
His computer at the place he was living
690
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.000
And here at that Malcolm Gladwell book
691
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.000
Yeah, so I know that there is a point of power in the level of access
692
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.000
You have to these tools
693
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.000
And I want kids to have access to tools
694
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.000
But we're now on an overdose of dopamine
695
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:14.000
And there's an overaction on this right
696
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.000
We have so many tools
697
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.000
Now they're making AI so we don't even have to use the tools anymore
698
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.000
I had a client one time that
699
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.000
Oh, go ahead
700
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.000
I just wanted to go back to something you were saying about billionaires
701
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.000
Do you hear Warren Buffett's thing recently?
702
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.000
This feels like it's about the setup for a joke
703
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.000
No, no, no
704
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.000
Warren Buffett walks into a bar
705
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.000
No, he was recently saying how he thinks the billionaires should be doing their share
706
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.000
But do you know what he's doing with his money?
707
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.000
I would rather...
708
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.000
It's true because he's giving away this money
709
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.000
Because he's the pitch box coming out
710
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.000
And the door is...
711
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.000
No, he was doing this way before that
712
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.000
He told his son he's not getting anything
713
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.000
Yeah, I think...
714
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.000
It's pretty brilliant
715
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.000
He was calling him out
716
00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:00.000
He basically did a public speaking thing where he called out the billionaires
717
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.000
He's like, we could collectively make it so
718
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.000
No one has to pay taxes
719
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.000
And that health care is covered
720
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.000
Was this recently? Yeah, this is recent
721
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.000
Everybody in a room just like
722
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.000
Why? He's older now
723
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.000
Not to care when he went out
724
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.000
I know, probably true and he knows that he's never going to like
725
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.000
What's he going to do with this money before he dies?
726
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.000
But regardless of his reasoning
727
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.000
No, it's incredible
728
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.000
Yeah, because I don't...
729
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.000
Some people come to his car
730
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.000
Because he's getting to a point where he has to let go of everything
731
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.000
We all will get to this point
732
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.000
We're all going to die
733
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.000
You can't take it anywhere
734
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.000
And there's a point in which you start to realize
735
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.000
that you are holding something that isn't actually valuable
736
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.000
And we do it for our kids
737
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.000
So if his kid's not good
738
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.000
Right, he took it
739
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:52.000
What were you going to say, Mary?
740
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.000
It'll come back
741
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.000
I just didn't want to lose that job
742
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.000
We were getting further from the way
743
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.000
I am...
744
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.000
I'm curious, like, do you feel like
745
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.000
if you'd had a homeschooling situation
746
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.000
How do you think things would have changed for you
747
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.000
She wouldn't be here for you, right?
748
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.000
I'm just trying to...
749
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.000
I'm joking
750
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.000
You wouldn't have had access to things like
751
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.000
Canva and Adobe, so who knows
752
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.000
Or Witchy
753
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.000
Oh, Kee
754
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.000
I don't...
755
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.000
And maybe...
756
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.000
And maybe...
757
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.000
And maybe would just be a degenerate
758
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.000
On a...
759
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.000
In short, on a teenage dirtbag
760
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:34.000
Yeah, yeah
761
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.000
So if you would hopefully be a degenerate
762
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.000
Probably
763
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.000
No, my parents were like
764
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.000
Your parents are so cool
765
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.000
There's no way
766
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.000
I feel like your parents are already homeschooled you
767
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.000
They're not homeschooling happening
768
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.000
Yeah, I think...
769
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.000
Let them tell you what your home life was like
770
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.000
From what we've heard, sorry
771
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.000
From what we...
772
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.000
From what we've gathered about you
773
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.000
They just like your mom
774
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.000
In our conversations with your mom
775
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.000
And your dad
776
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.000
I think they homeschooled me
777
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.000
In a way that wasn't like
778
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.000
Educational school
779
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.000
Yeah, the school of life
780
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.000
And it was like...
781
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.000
The school of life
782
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.000
I was learning with my mom
783
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.000
Like how to make
784
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.000
So...
785
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.000
At like...
786
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.000
There you go
787
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.000
You know, so it was like
788
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.000
I think like that was like
789
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.000
The quiet luxury I was mentioning earlier
790
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.000
Like being able to like just do stuff
791
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.000
Yeah, and like
792
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.000
Being there with my parents
793
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.000
That's a grass thing
794
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.000
It's the hands-on experience
795
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:44.000
If you think if you'd been outside of it
796
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.000
You would have really rebelled against me
797
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.000
Yes, I do
798
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.000
And I like feel that like internally because I was like
799
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.000
She was the prom queen
800
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.000
But she didn't want to be there
801
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.000
She was trash talking prom
802
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.000
I was
803
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.000
And just saying one thing and just saying
804
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.000
Did you...
805
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.000
Were you a rebel?
806
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.000
Did you like wear a crazy like
807
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.000
Fight back dress?
808
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.000
Well, I made my dress with my grandmother
809
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.000
Yeah, yeah
810
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.000
Can we have pictures of that?
811
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.000
Yeah, I will
812
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.000
Will mean you'll upload a picture
813
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.000
But yeah, no, like right before
814
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.000
They were like announcing
815
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.000
I had went and I like broke this record
816
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.000
That like stood at Franklin for like 35 years
817
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.000
And the next day I came and went to prom
818
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.000
I was like, man, fuck this
819
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.000
I don't want to be here
820
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.000
Like I was like exhausted
821
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.000
And I was like talking to my friends
822
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.000
And like, you know, all the music died down
823
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.000
Like, all right, let's see who gets this
824
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.000
And I mean, I was just like, blinding
825
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.000
But no, I think like
826
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.000
If I would have done the whole school thing
827
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.000
I think I would have been like a totally different person
828
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.000
Because the pipeline of school
829
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.000
Was like, hey, if you do all these things
830
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.000
You're gonna be really, really successful
831
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.000
Yeah
832
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:58.000
And now I'm looking at it
833
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.000
And like my really cool friends
834
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.000
Did not do all those things that I did
835
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.000
And I'm like, I feel like I wasted
836
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.000
Like a lot of like good energy
837
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.000
And like personality
838
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.000
Yeah
839
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.000
Trying to like fit in that like pipeline
840
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.000
And so like I feel like if homeschool
841
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.000
Was an option
842
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.000
It would have been very different
843
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.000
Because I don't think my parents would have taught me educational
844
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.000
There'd been more like trade school kind of homeschool
845
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.000
But yeah, I mean
846
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:26.000
To niche stage their own
847
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.000
But yeah
848
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.000
There is something about like
849
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.000
Not having exposure to
850
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.000
Or expectations from the pipeline
851
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.000
And I always felt in another chip I wear in my shoulder
852
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.000
I always felt angry
853
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.000
I guess after I got out of high school
854
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.000
I was like, oh, we put so much trust in this system
855
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:48.000
Yeah, I'm still carrying student debt
856
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.000
And I remember I think I really scared my brother off of college
857
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.000
My brother went directly into the military
858
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:56.000
And it just the idea of like, oh, we put all this faith
859
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.000
In these institutions
860
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.000
And I'm like, actually, I don't remember that much
861
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.000
I'm in high school
862
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:04.000
I just have some immediately ejecting
863
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.000
Yeah, you don't remember anything we learned
864
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:10.000
No, you didn't only point the only beneficial thing that comes out of
865
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.000
No, it's only in practice
866
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.000
You don't remember it from high school or from college
867
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.000
You remember if you practice it consistently
868
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:18.000
Everything else is gone. Do you remember Spanish?
869
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.000
Yeah, I remember some of this
870
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.000
I remember some of it
871
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.000
Because you didn't do a link of probably
872
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.000
No, no, I remember like
873
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.000
How to
874
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.000
Seize where?
875
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.000
And the only reason the pipeline works
876
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.000
For certain people
877
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.000
And I'll say this again, I don't want to be this to be a rant
878
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.000
But when you have access to people
879
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.000
That is where school works
880
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.000
It's who you know
881
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.000
When you meet people through your pipeline
882
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.000
It's a social club
883
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.000
If you can make it yourself, make your way through the pipeline
884
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.000
And meet the right people
885
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.000
And go to the right school
886
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.000
And get the right connection to get the right job
887
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.000
Then you've made it
888
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:58.000
It doesn't matter what you're learning
889
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.000
And so I think we are get
890
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.000
We get told back to what you're saying
891
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.000
We get told if you go to
892
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.000
Yeah, exactly. If you do this, you do this
893
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.000
You'll be successful
894
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.000
But then you end up at the end of it with a lot of school debt
895
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.000
And there's no options
896
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.000
Well, I also, I mean this is just proof to your point
897
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.000
I remember I went to UNC Chapel Hill
898
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.000
Go to our Hill
899
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.000
And it's public school
900
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.000
They make a big deal about like it's the first
901
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.000
You know, public university
902
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.000
And we're proud of that
903
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.000
And also it is like pretty waspy and preppy
904
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.000
And like a lot of old families
905
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.000
That had money for a long time go there
906
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:34.000
And donate to the school all the stuff
907
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:38.000
But I remember getting to about my junior year
908
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.000
I didn't catch on very quickly
909
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.000
A very naive
910
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.000
And I was like, oh, other people came into this
911
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.000
Either because their parents went to Chapel Hill
912
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.000
Or because they're well connected some other way
913
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.000
They came into this experience
914
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.000
Knowing that they had to like
915
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.000
Jump into a couple places
916
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.000
They needed to be planning in high school
917
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.000
So they could get a more head scholarship
918
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.000
So they could do these internships
919
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.000
To pursue their ultimate dream of
920
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:04.000
Fill in the blank
921
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.000
And I remember thinking, oh, they told me I was just going to like show up
922
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.000
And take some classes and then find a really great job
923
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.000
And be able to pay off my loans
924
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:12.000
But I didn't realize you were supposed to be like
925
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.000
Going to office hours
926
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.000
Wasn't about learning the material
927
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.000
It was about networking with your professor
928
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.000
And like, I just wasn't down for any of that
929
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.000
I was so tired of being known
930
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.000
I was so excited to be anonymous
931
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.000
And I went into it
932
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.000
Well, I just was from a small town
933
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.000
It's like being a preacher's kid
934
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.000
I was a sheriff's kid
935
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.000
Everyone's watching you
936
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.000
Yeah, or I felt that way anyway
937
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.000
Probably not true
938
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.000
I did just have a thought though
939
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.000
I was actually partially homeschooled
940
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.000
Like I said
941
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.000
He blocked it out
942
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.000
It was just what
943
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.000
It's conversation
944
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.000
Where you were
945
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.000
So my, I was raised
946
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.000
It's okay, Reggie
947
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.000
You're special too Reggie
948
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.000
You're so full
949
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.000
Guys, I did have an experience
950
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.000
No, I remember that Steve Martin
951
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:08.000
Lisa and I was raised as a poor black child
952
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.000
What was that movie?
953
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.000
It was that guy so funny
954
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.000
What was the jerk?
955
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.000
The jerk
956
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:20.000
No, my grandmother was an educator
957
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.000
And she's who raised me
958
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.000
And so in the summer
959
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.000
Before I could go out and play
960
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.000
And hang out with my kid
961
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.000
My friends in the summer
962
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.000
I had to do homework
963
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:34.000
I had to do like
964
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.000
I had like actual workbooks
965
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.000
With math problems
966
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.000
And language skills and all of it
967
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:42.000
She put you to work
968
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.000
Which is why I freaking crushed those tests
969
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.000
Why he is so smart
970
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.000
And why he is here
971
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:50.000
But grandmother
972
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.000
So she was my like as an educator
973
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.000
She frets while in the college
974
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:56.000
Like she was firmly rooted
975
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.000
In the importance of education
976
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.000
And so just imagine
977
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.000
Of course I hated it as a kid
978
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.000
Having to like do homework in the summer
979
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.000
Knowing my friends were already out of plan
980
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.000
And I had to finish this up
981
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.000
But she said
982
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.000
Yeah, that's incredible
983
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.000
Education
984
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.000
And even if it has to happen on an iPad
985
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.000
I feel like right now
986
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.000
We get by how we get by
987
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.000
Until we figure out what the new curriculum has to be
988
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.000
Because I do think it's changing
989
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:26.000
Like the way we deal with information
990
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.000
And the nature of knowledge work
991
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.000
If you can call what we do that
992
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.000
Like that is about the shift tremendously
993
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:34.000
And so our schooling will also shift
994
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.000
But we are in a very awkward growth stage
995
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.000
Right now
996
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.000
And the jobs that are getting you
997
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:42.000
So how do you get the experience
998
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.000
To have the job that's coming
999
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:46.000
What they're saying is that
1000
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.000
AI is pushing the workload
1001
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.000
On to the higher up
1002
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.000
Higher ranking
1003
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.000
People in the business
1004
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.000
So they're having to do more work
1005
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.000
With AI
1006
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.000
And we've all
1007
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.000
I'm going to say the old people
1008
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.000
I don't actually know what all workplaces are like
1009
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.000
But I do think we've lost a lot of patience
1010
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.000
I think like the expectation
1011
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.000
I can imagine a world
1012
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.000
Where you came into a new job
1013
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.000
And they trained you in the new jobs
1014
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.000
Yeah I've never had one of those
1015
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.000
In my adult life
1016
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:20.000
I had a student job where I got trained
1017
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.000
Because I was at Chapel Hill
1018
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.000
And they knew that it was a new craft that I'd never studied before
1019
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.000
But every job I've ever had
1020
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.000
Has been like well you'll learn on the job
1021
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.000
And you're maybe you get a week to shadow
1022
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.000
They throw you in and then you're getting negative feedback
1023
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.000
As the way to fix
1024
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.000
And I go don't do it this way
1025
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.000
Very like okay I'll fix and I'll pretzel myself
1026
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.000
To make this big sense
1027
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.000
What do you probably like really traumatic from childhood to
1028
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.000
I wonder if that's a
1029
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.000
I mean you are so whips monitor and you're so good
1030
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:50.000
And what you do
1031
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.000
And I can't say that that's not an effective way to go
1032
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.000
I certainly don't
1033
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.000
She's always breaking the fourth
1034
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.000
Maybe I should break the fourth hole
1035
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.000
There is no fourth hole
1036
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.000
I have a really hard time
1037
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.000
Taking that compliment
1038
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.000
I said it's true that it's like I just
1039
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.000
Because I was able to adapt really quickly
1040
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.000
People were like oh she's so good at this
1041
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:11.000
I'm like actually
1042
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.000
Internal panic and like really fast thinking
1043
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:16.000
Which actually kind of
1044
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.000
So the difficulty of homeschooling
1045
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.000
Is that you will not make connections
1046
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.000
You are with unless someone is able to bring in a tutor
1047
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.000
That's well connected
1048
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.000
You're like isolated
1049
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:28.000
If you have enough money, anything can work
1050
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.000
Yeah, I can solve it a lot of things with money
1051
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:32.000
But if you're just a normal person
1052
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.000
With homeschooling, I would say that
1053
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.000
It's probably not going to benefit you
1054
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.000
Because you're not being able to make connections
1055
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.000
You know like there's no
1056
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.000
You have your parents which I think is great
1057
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.000
And I think family is a strong
1058
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.000
Community to be a part of
1059
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:48.000
But I think if you lose
1060
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.000
But it is the one that you don't get to choose
1061
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:51.000
Right
1062
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.000
Is the other part
1063
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.000
And so I always wanted
1064
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.000
Now this is later in my life
1065
00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:58.000
I thought that it would be easier if my family didn't live so close to me
1066
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.000
So that I can develop relations apart my family
1067
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.000
Because I like to hang out with my brothers
1068
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.000
I like to be dinner with my parents
1069
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.000
My wife's parents are in town so I like to eat with them
1070
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.000
And siblings are really close
1071
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:10.000
And so there's a lot of time
1072
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.000
Being invested in family
1073
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.000
And so I don't get time to make investments
1074
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.000
Into other friends who are outside the family
1075
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.000
So sometimes even while traveling
1076
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.000
I was like I wonder what it will feel like
1077
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.000
Not to be around family at the time
1078
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.000
In the immediate right vicinity
1079
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.000
So I think that the disadvantage
1080
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:28.000
Now hearing this conversation, the disadvantage
1081
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.000
Of the isolated
1082
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.000
And this is going to be so earth shattering
1083
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.000
When this comes around to what I'm getting to
1084
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.000
When you're isolated
1085
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.000
In old school days, up home schooling
1086
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:40.000
You miss the advantage
1087
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.000
You miss the advantage of connection
1088
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.000
Yeah
1089
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.000
Now you're isolated in digital technology
1090
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.000
And you miss the advantage of what school's about
1091
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.000
You're not meeting the teachers
1092
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.000
You're not hearing about them connecting with them
1093
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.000
Being motivated
1094
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:56.000
To move on to another
1095
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.000
My chemistry teacher in high school too
1096
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.000
No one liked him
1097
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.000
I don't know why I liked him
1098
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.000
But I thought I was so incredible
1099
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.000
I wanted to be a doctor
1100
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:08.000
And that helped motivate me
1101
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.000
But if you isolate a bunch of kids on their devices
1102
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.000
And they're not working with each other
1103
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:14.000
Or with the teacher
1104
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.000
It minimizes them
1105
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.000
And that maybe that's a plan
1106
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.000
Maybe there's a plan
1107
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.000
Not to have the rise up of the people
1108
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.000
Because they're all thinking that this is where it's at
1109
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:28.000
Some people like in this jump in technology
1110
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:30.000
To when people first started reading
1111
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.000
And written word
1112
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.000
And the printing press became a thing
1113
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:36.000
People were afraid
1114
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.000
That humans would just have their noses in books the whole time
1115
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.000
Because it was the source of entertainment
1116
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:42.000
But also of education
1117
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.000
And so what you're describing for isolationism
1118
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.000
Also just a textbook alone
1119
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.000
We'll do that to you
1120
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.000
Like I had so many classes
1121
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.000
Where I didn't connect with anybody
1122
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.000
And I was talking there
1123
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:56.000
Listening to a teacher talk at me
1124
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.000
And like referencing problems in a book
1125
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.000
Right
1126
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.000
So it's been happening
1127
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:04.000
And even before the printing press
1128
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.000
They had to teach from a one book
1129
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.000
Whatever the manuscript
1130
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.000
Or a big whiteboard
1131
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.000
Or just copy what's there
1132
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.000
They would pass their wisdom on
1133
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:16.000
And then there are old more native cultures
1134
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:18.000
That would pass them on through song
1135
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.000
And then through dance
1136
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.000
Because people a lot of times people will say
1137
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.000
Over written 100 years later
1138
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.000
And there's no way they can remember that
1139
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.000
Do I remember what I did last year?
1140
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.000
What they said
1141
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.000
They're saying the transatlantic accent
1142
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:34.000
Well, the guy
1143
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.000
Lost my thought
1144
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:38.000
The guy says that
1145
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.000
We don't understand that there were cultures
1146
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.000
That sit, told their stories
1147
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:44.000
Over and over and over
1148
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.000
So it wasn't a matter of losing your memory
1149
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.000
On the story you literally grew up singing
1150
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.000
And telling and hearing stories
1151
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.000
So we don't know this
1152
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.000
That's one of the things that lived
1153
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:56.000
There was the cultural preservation
1154
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:58.000
Because what happens is the elders are dying off
1155
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.000
And kids are becoming more westernized
1156
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.000
These stories and tables
1157
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:06.000
And things that were part of their learning mechanism
1158
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.000
They're heritage
1159
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.000
And so they're helping people
1160
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:12.000
They're providing resources
1161
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.000
And help people continue that
1162
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.000
In different First Nation tribes
1163
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.000
Did you say in Spain
1164
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.000
You wanted it to be worse?
1165
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.000
That was Adrian
1166
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.000
But we were talking about how the digital age has like
1167
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.000
Blended everything out
1168
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:28.000
And so you don't get that
1169
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:30.000
Environmental immersion
1170
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.000
Where you're somewhere that's unique and different
1171
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:34.000
Everything starts to feel like
1172
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.000
The same
1173
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:38.000
But we're all isolated at the same time
1174
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.000
So how can everything feel the same?
1175
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:42.000
It's the same thing you were talking about
1176
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.000
What's jumping from school to school
1177
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.000
Being there to form community and then leave again
1178
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:52.000
I feel like that sort of the experience of moving between cultures now is like
1179
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.000
You were meant to feel a little bit isolated for a minute
1180
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.000
And people didn't like that feeling
1181
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.000
Especially when there's this overwhelming majority
1182
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.000
Keeping people out
1183
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.000
But there is that tension of like
1184
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:04.000
I can be near it
1185
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:06.000
And love it
1186
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.000
But not be of it
1187
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.000
I don't have to own it and assimilate it and make it mine
1188
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.000
But I do think
1189
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:16.000
There's a beauty to diversity and we definitely need to hold that up
1190
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.000
But also like it can't
1191
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.000
You're not allowed to have everything
1192
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.000
I guess is like the moral of that
1193
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.000
You have to see yourself as outside of that culture
1194
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.000
And you can't just adopt all of it
1195
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.000
Right
1196
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.000
Everybody
1197
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.000
Every kid had some form of homeschool
1198
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:36.000
Like I did
1199
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.000
Like what if there was a percentage
1200
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.000
Yeah
1201
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.000
Like I did
1202
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:44.000
Everyone confused
1203
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.000
Seriously, what if that was the trend
1204
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:50.000
Even if your kids went to a public school or a walker or a monastery
1205
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:52.000
Or whatever
1206
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.000
That there was still some percentage of it
1207
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.000
That was homeschooled so they get that
1208
00:57:56.000 --> 00:58:00.000
Because I think there's benefits to each type of
1209
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.000
Okay, so here's another thing
1210
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:04.000
So if we paid teachers right
1211
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.000
Yes
1212
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.000
More people want to be teachers
1213
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:10.000
Caregivers correctly
1214
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.000
More people would want to take care of their kids
1215
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:16.000
And by the way every job is becoming a care job
1216
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:20.000
Even if you think that you're doing like knowledge work or engineering
1217
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.000
You have to take care of someone
1218
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.000
That's relationships
1219
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.000
But there's a
1220
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:30.000
Kate Rayworth wrote a book called The Donut Economics
1221
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.000
And she talks about the value of a caregiver
1222
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.000
Or a grandmother
1223
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:38.000
Or someone who raises a child
1224
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:40.000
To enter the workforce
1225
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:44.000
We don't see that as being part of the economy
1226
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.000
They're like outside the economy
1227
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:48.000
Good luck
1228
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.000
Whatever you have to do just survive and get them through
1229
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.000
We don't see it as we're raising kids
1230
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.000
To bring them into the economy
1231
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.000
That's part of the work
1232
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:58.000
And so she makes an argument
1233
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.000
To pay them
1234
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.000
And she actually adds up all that they're doing
1235
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:04.000
And puts a number of it
1236
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.000
And it's like $160,000 a year
1237
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.000
I mean it feels like a really great argument for universal basic income
1238
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.000
Yeah
1239
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.000
I don't know that that gets at it
1240
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.000
Because what you're doing
1241
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.000
There's a percentage that's missing
1242
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.000
Right
1243
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:20.000
Because it's kind of like lunch money
1244
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:22.000
Yeah
1245
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.000
But I also feel like if we were about a resource
1246
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:28.000
I like to imagine that more people would do that willingly
1247
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:30.000
And without the extra incentive
1248
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.000
Of our children and we want good things for them
1249
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.000
But my parents, even if they'd wanted to do that
1250
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.000
I don't think they could really like conceive of the economic situation
1251
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.000
They were trying to throw me into
1252
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:42.000
Right
1253
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.000
Because I mean it's a white collar blue collar
1254
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.000
Or like my parents worked for a mistake my whole life
1255
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.000
So like I don't know
1256
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.000
I do think it's a social climbing thing at the end of the day
1257
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.000
And people use that term
1258
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.000
In a derogatory way
1259
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:56.000
Like a social climber
1260
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.000
But I think that there's an element of
1261
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.000
There's some scarcity
1262
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.000
She also says in the book that when you add money to the thing
1263
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.000
You take away the intrinsic value
1264
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.000
So be careful when you add money to
1265
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.000
Because it is a fire that will burn the market
1266
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:14.000
So if you were to pay caregivers for the work they're doing
1267
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.000
It would take the intrinsic value of raising someone
1268
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.000
But it needs to get to them in some way
1269
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.000
Whether it's paying the one who's working more
1270
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:26.000
So that it can provide an environment that's not scarce
1271
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.000
And driven by that level of emergency feeling
1272
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.000
Yeah
1273
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.000
And teachers
1274
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.000
So like no one wants to be a teacher right now
1275
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The numbers are so low
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When it comes to teaching
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Right, it's the worst
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Don't get paid well
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They're constantly under attack
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But yeah, certainly by the current
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So what does that do?
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What does that lead kids to?
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Khan Academy
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Yeah
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Which is incentivized
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To do this
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Because they make more money than the more people are signed up
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And people think it's great
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They can learn anywhere they are
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They can travel and learn
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But who's going to make the teachers at the end
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And then who controls the education
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Khan Academy
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Khan Academy or whatever
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And even YouTubers
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My kids learn as much from them as they learn
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So many other kids are learning from YouTube
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That's like the
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I'd say it's really high up there
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So it takes our voyeuristic
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tendencies as humans
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We've had this since time began
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And we turn into the person watching
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Like kids
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Watching other kids play games
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Your screen is a little window to the world
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Right, that's the craziest thing
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Watching kids watch other kids play games
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They watch other kids play
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I mean all the young people are watching this like what's so hard to get
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It's streaming
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They're watching people play Minecraft
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I'm like guys you have Minecraft
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You can actually play it
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No, we just watch
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It's like a weird
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Isolation happening that we're not even aware of
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Because we think we're being empowered
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With tools
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They don't tell you that if everyone has AI
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It doesn't fucking matter
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Because everyone has AI
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So knowledge actually becomes the least valuable thing
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On the course of this getting better
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You know because they
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A friend of mine told me
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They took us from the field
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And they put us in the city
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Then they put us in buildings
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Then they gave us devices
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And now they have AI that just says we don't need you anymore
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01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.000
So when you follow that pipeline
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Yeah, you circle back
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And you go live in the wilderness
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And try not to be bothered
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I will say
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I know kids in that
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I have had this thought several times
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That it does start to sound like matriarchy
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But I don't know the technical definition
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Of matriarchy versus patriarchy
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But I have asked myself
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Sometimes if we need a party
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A political party in the United States
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And the whole platform is built on this thesis
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Protect our children
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And if you start there
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And you're like okay
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Let's make sure everybody has food eat
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Let's make sure that nobody's getting shot
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In the street or in a safe building
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Then you start to think
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Okay, if I'm going to care for these children
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I need to care for the people who care for the children
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01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.000
And the ripple effect starts out that way
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And it does just so happen
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That a lot of those people are women
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And I do think that like
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The original caretaker
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Is probably a mom
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Is the archetypal figure that
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But I feel like without trying to make it a gender thing
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At all
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Care for the people who are caring for the kids
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01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.000
And then the like goodness flows out
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Because yeah
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Yeah, well-resourced kids
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Create well-resourced adults
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01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.000
Create a well-resourced world
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Sort of I feel
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01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.000
Without trying to make it all the kids
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01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.000
Problems like solve it for us
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01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.000
But I do think it's that sense of like
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I want better for you than I had
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01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.000
But I don't think that can any longer be like
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01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:02.000
Go, make your way in this competitive world
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01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.000
Is totally how I was raised
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01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.000
I think it's like no, find the caregivers
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01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.000
Children
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01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.000
It seems like really basic
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01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:12.000
Like every species has that figured
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01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.000
And these are friends working in the other space
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01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.000
Who is connecting
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01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.000
High schoolers with mentors
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01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:20.000
Yeah, like dad access
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01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:22.000
I think it's the name of this company
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01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.000
Is called backers
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01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.000
And it's the idea that like
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01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.000
Not only learning but like social capital
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01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.000
Is also a key part of what
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01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.000
Especially rich people are getting from
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01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.000
Trying to close that gap by pairing people up
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01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.000
With mentors to like support them through that journey
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01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.000
And to be exciting
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01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:40.000
It sounds great
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01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.000
He has a TEDx song
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01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.000
You should go look it up
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01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.000
TEDx Asheville Andy
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Put his name in the description
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That was the year that I staged managed
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So I definitely should know
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Is that our resolve and our woodish
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01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:56.000
If we take care of people
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I don't know how to resolve this
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I feel all like
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He was home school
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01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:04.000
You have to forgive him
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01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.000
I don't know how to resolve this
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01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.000
This is what happens when you're a home school
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01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.000
I could tell
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I know
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01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.000
How do we become successful
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01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.000
And then people that
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Be people that change things
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01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.000
Instead of just becoming
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That one that wants to hoard your success
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Because it is scarce
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01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.000
You can't be ill gotten
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I think that's the story
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You got to get it through positive means
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And that's the hardest thing in the world
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It sounds like a great ending
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It'll gotten
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01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.000
You don't really figure it out
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I love it
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It sounds like a stressful thing
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01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.000
I love it
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01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.000
I'm going to close this off
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That was our podcast on home schooling
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Hope you enjoyed it
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This is age
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01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:54.000
This is age
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01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.000
Wow
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01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:58.000
That was fun
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01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.000
Thank you
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Thank you