FIVEAA Afternoons with Stacey Lee - 25 February 2026

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Speaker 1: And a very big good afternoon to you. Happy Wednesday, if the twenty fifth of February, and I'm stacy with you through until four o'clock. Lots of discussion to be had at this afternoon. After one thirty, we're going to talk about the ISIS brides and their children returning to Australia. What precautions will need to be taken if and I guess it's more of a question about when they get here. We know that about a third of them, there's thirty four women and children. We know about a third of them are intending to go to New South Wales. The remainder, I think, to Victoria. So what will authorities there be looking at. We're going to talk to Peter Maroney this afternoon. He's a security and a risk consultant. He was a former police officer and the Terrorism Investigation Squad, so he's got an insight into what police would be doing right now, what they'd be preparing for, who they'd been communicating with, security agent season the like. So that'll be an interesting discussion with Peter after one thirty. We also have our real estate segment today with Toop and Top. If you're considering downsizing after hearing the downsizer announcements made by both of the major parties this election, What do you need to do? What do you need to think about when it comes to selling your home and potentially buying a new one? Tech talk with Richard Pasco as well, and then a little later on we'll hear more about the port adelaide Alberton Square development that was the subject of Breaking at eight this morning with David Will. And you might remember this call from David in Glenelg a couple days ago because.
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Speaker 2: I was at my daughter's graduation. I saw the principal raving how what wonderful students they were, and I decided to go and speak to a deputy principal after and I said, why doesn't my daughter know who times tables? After doing year twelve maths?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 2: And I said, I don't think fifty percent of students would know their times tables And he said it's probably more. He said it's probably ninety percent. And I said why and he said, they don't teach it. He said that's the junior primary school's job. And he said that they don't teach wrote learning times tables anymore. And he said it's ninety percent of our high school graduates not.
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Speaker 1: Learning times tables in schools anymore. That sounded strange to me, so we made some calls to the education minister and the department, and the head of the department will join you after three o'clock today, so we'll find out if that's the case. But at nine minutes past one here on five double, a Dawn in Fairview Park has called us.
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Speaker 4: Hi, Dawn, I stay sy, I just want to give your listeners a bit of a headstart. And there's a situation going down at the moment between Golden Grave High School, Pere and police and college. Apparently there's someone running around with a gun.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Dawn, okay. We've made some calls to police about that. Thank you for letting us know, because I know that there were police in the area. They've said that they've investigated and there are no threats to public safety, so because I imagine it would have been pretty scary, because like I said, there are a lot of police in the area and a lot going on.
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Speaker 4: Were you there, No, I wasn't there, and my daughter was right.
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Speaker 1: Okay, is she at one of the schools?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 4: No, she her daughter goes to the school. Well she was across the road at the doctor's surgery.
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Speaker 1: Oh all right, yes, well we can hopefully make you feel a bit better. Police have said they were called to that area around twelve twenty this afternoon there was a man that was reportedly looking suspicious. They searched the area and they identified the man and they're satisfied no offenses were committed and there was no threat to public safety. They did put the schools in the area into lockdown as a precaution, but they're now satisfied that there's no threat there. So thank you for bringing it to our attention, and I'm glad we were able to get the info from police this afternoon. Thanks David, No, thank you. That would have been pretty scary for those students, that's for sure. But good to know from say Pole that there are no threats to public safety there. I know there are lots of you in the area, so we appreciate you letting us know this afternoon, and good to be able to get that from Saypol. But if you are concerned, if one of your children is at one of those schools, or grandchildren, or if you're in the area and you saw lots of police. Good to know no offenses were committed and no threat to public safety. Well. One of the big stories to come out today has been announced by the state government that they are going to secure a rail corridor in the Northern Suburbs. This is to do with the housing developments going up in that area, to try and make sure that some land is locked away so that when people start to move in in that area that the rail corridor is set aside and there's room for trains. It's going to run through two Wells, a thirty three kilometer stretch of land from Dry Creek through Waterloo Corner and Riverley before finishing at two Wells. Let's get some more information on this. Emily Burke is the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport and joins you now, good afternoon, minister.
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Speaker 6: No, good afternoon, Staceian.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Thanks for your time. Has the land been purchased yet or has it just been identified?
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Speaker 6: So that is the significance of this project. This is the largest corridor that we're seeking to preserve in modern history, and that's because we're starting from the very beginning. So this hasn't we haven't taken on a project of this scale before, but we also know that it's really needed because, as has been highlighted many times, Northern Adelaide is growing and it's growing fast, and the last thing we want to do is have houses going there but not keeping pace with the infrastructure that is required. So, as you're rightfully highlighted, this is about getting that conversation starting started and getting out there and putting aside the land so we don't build homes where we can look out in ten years ago. Oh goodness, I wish we accept that land aside and made sure that we had the right corridors were preserved and not have the houses built there that we then have to remove. So this is about forward planning, future proofing, so we can get on and make sure that we have those rail corridors in place.
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Speaker 1: And we had this discussion the other day with the chief executive at the Mount Barker Council, which, as you know, your governments acknowledged that the planning wasn't done right back when the Mount Barker area was being developed. And I know that there's a whole lot of issues with transport there, so I'm sure there'd be a lot of people, not just in the northern suburbs, but in the wider community welcoming this to say it's good that the land has been identified. Just to clarify, it's just been identified at this stage, is that right or has it been?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So this is really going even a step further back from that. So you can draw a line, I guess on your desktop on your computer and say, yeh, sure this is where a rail line could go, but really you need to go on the ground and see what that would actually look like. So this is really going to that beginning of the story is where is the best place for this preserved land to be. So we've identified a scope of space. Now wet that down and say, right, where do we need this line to go? How are we going to connect these housing growth areas? How are we going to connect Tri Creek to all their corner to River Lee, which we've already seen growing very very quickly, but also then connecting too two Wells, so they have employment opportunities to either go to two Wells or go back the other way in towards Metropolitan Adelaide. So this hasn't we haven't started from scratch like this before for a very very long time. If you look at those other preserved rail corridors that we already have. The sort of Roseworthy was sort of had land already set aside Seaford. Thankfully when we got into government it was about to be sold off that we were able to unpick that and keep that land preserved for a rail corridor. But with this one, we're starting from scratch and really having to set about where is the best spot for this corridor to go to connect all those growing housing areas, and then we'll start that community consultation process as we are with the other corridors too.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so when do you plan on buying the land and building that rail corridor? Do you have a timeline?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: So, like I said, it's really we have to get out there first and find the right corridor, and those those plans can really start when our government reforms, whoever is in gets the opportunity to get out there start having those conversations about where it's best to connect these large, growing communities together. And it's a really I can't highlight enough. You know, people that have been talking about this for a really long time, identifying this is what good government should do need to plan ahead. We can't find ourselves making the mistakes of the past, as you've rightfully highlighted. People want to make sure there is a plan, and this is how you do it. You get out there, you get on the ground, and you find the right spots to be putting these rail corridors.
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Speaker 1: So no time frame yet.
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Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't want to put a definite time frame on anything because government needs to be formed. So whoever gets into government gets this incredible opportunity. There's a commitment now to be able to go out there and say there's an opportunity, let's get on and let's do this.
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Speaker 8: Because you can.
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Speaker 6: You need to first of all, work with the community to find the best corridor. Trains are a little bit tricky. They don't like sure, they don't like sharp corners, or they like a little bit of a straight line. So that's why they need to get on the ground, find those environmental factors how we can best get the corridor in place and preserve it. So that's the work that needs to be done. It hasn't been looked at properly before, so we get to start from scratch and get this happening. And I think any that's living in the north would be looking at this thinking this is a confidence boost. We know that there will be a land set aside at some point for a corridor to be put into place, for rail to be made available, because we know that public transport is the most affordable form of travel and the more we can make it as successible as possible, the better off we are.
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Speaker 1: And I think, like I said, you'd be congratulated for that by a lot of people. But using the election, the upcoming election as a barrier for giving a timeline is a bit of a cop out, isn't it, Minister. I mean, at the moment the premiers talking about orchest submarines that aren't going to be built for twenty plus years. So this is what people expect in the lead up to an election to hear about future planning from either party so they know who they can vote for. But it sounds like at this stage you can't give anyone a timeline. It could be years.
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Speaker 6: I think the people in a community would realize a rail line of overnight and what they also realize because they've seen it all before when we don't do the homework and you don't put the plan into place and you don't go out in the ground and you find out where is the best location for these lines to be going, you get it wrong. So I think people would be really welcoming, and as they have been. You know, the ARIA has come out and welcomed this announcement to say this is good. This is what good governments need to do. Get out in the ground, find out where these lines can go and start preserving that land. I think people when they're driving around Adelaide would be able to identify very quickly that we are a government that gets on and gets stuff done. The t TOD has been spoken about forever in the day and those works are well and truly now underway. You know, our TBM, the tunne boring machines are starting to they've arrived and still piece is coming, but the first one is here being pieced together and people can see the progress that's happening there. And there's cranes, more cranes than ever before in our skyline. Things are happening in South Australia. But we also need to make sure we're not just doing them now, but we've planned the future as well, and that's exactly what we're demonstrating by saying, let's get out there and start preserving the longest rail corridor we have in Lodern history, but two three kilometers long approximately, Or connect these housing opportunities together, because it's not just about the housing opportunities. It's getting cars off our roads and it's also about connecting people to employment and that's a really good combination of what we can achieve with investing in public transport.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Selex speech and that area down south and after you got in government, you weren't the minister at the time, granted, but you did announce something similar. Your party did announce something similar for that area, setting the land Aside and the Selex Beach area near l Dinger. That was nearly four years ago now though there is there a plan or a timeline for that rail line yet.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So we've done two of these rail corridor extensions outside of the one that we've announced today, and the other ones were to Rose. They're in Concordia and also the rail Corry or to Selex. And the reason why we've done this is exactly why we're doing this one as well, is we know that they have been identified as housing growth areas and we need to make sure we preserve that land now. Preserving that land now is a lot cheaper than having to go through and remove homes, which no one likes doing. It's about making sure we preserve the land now so that homes can build surrounding that area with confidence knowing that at some point there will be a public transport access here, but also knowing that their homes are not in the way of the expansion of the rail.
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Speaker 2: Corriors as well.
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Speaker 6: So it is a good investment and we've not just investing in rail. One of the great announcements I have been a part of just recently was taking public transport and being announced the elections commitment to take that to murray Bridge. Now for me as a labor member of government to be able to take metro card prices to murray Bridge, who will save one individual about nineteen dollars every trip. So at the moment it's twenty four dollars and ninety cents to travel from murray Bridge to the sea and back again it's fifty dollars roughly, So it's for so many people that's about two hours of wages. And we are saying we're going to take the metrocar to murray Bridge. We will change legislation to make that possible, and in doing so we will save an individual nineteen dollars one way. It's a significant saving. And we will also deliver eleven new buses to make that possible. That in itself is a twenty three dollars twenty three million dollar commitment that follows our announcement whilst being government that we've made public transports termanent in Mount Barker and being able to expand those services so there's an express bus every six minutes in peak time from Mount Barker. So we're not just investing in metropolitan Adelaide, we're taking into the regions and expanding the service to those high growth areas as well.
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Speaker 1: And that's great for people in those areas, Minister in Mount Barker and murray Bridge, but without a timeline for I guess the Selix rail line. The Mount Barker development was back in twenty sixteen and there's still no rail line plan for that area. How can people who are buying houses right now in Riverley and in those northern areas that you've identified as part of today's announcement feel comforted by this announcement when even the announcement you made very similar to this in the Southern suburbs four years ago. Still has no plan and no timeline. I've got a text here from Dan saying I'm looking forward to riding this train in two Wells in twenty sixty six. Without a timeline or a proper plan, how can people trust that this will happen.
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Speaker 6: I think the community would be welcoming that we're even talking about it. The fact that we can get out there now and say we have a commitment if back in government, we can get out there on the ground and start looking at where this rail corridor needs to go. That is what people want to hear, that there is going to be a plan and there is going to be Finally someone get out on the ground and get on with this work. Because we can talk about it, and we can draw lines on our computer, we can get all we can get highlighters out and draw them on a piece of paper. But what you need to do is get out in the ground and start finding the best route for this corridor to go. And no one has done that yet. No one has gone beyond the desktop and gone onto the ground to start thinking where did this rail corridor need to go? And that's what this is announcing today, that we can now get out in the ground and do that work.
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Speaker 1: Robin in Port Adelaide has called in with a question, Robin, good afternoon to you.
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Speaker 10: Yes, good afternoon. I'm not sure if I have the right person to ask, but heading out of Port Adelaide over the Port River Expressway, the land to the left of there, just before the Wingfield dump as being all grater than yeah, with dirt and stuff. I just wonder do you know what they're building there or what they're doing there? Oh?
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Speaker 6: Okay, is that Gilman's site?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, but on the left of the River Expressway, Yeah, if it out.
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Speaker 6: If it's the Gilman's site. A lot of the what we call spoil, the dirt from the T to D project is being used to level out the land there so again that we can look at housing options in the future. It's it's the great opportunity that comes from the Torrents of Darlington projects. Not only we're building an incredible motorway, we're also using products that are coming from that project for the soil to go to Gilman so we can look at housing options or industrial employment options into the future. So the T TOD projects having a really significant positive impact on our state. Finally we'll have a non stock freeway like every other mainland state. But we're also using the soil from that project to advance other opportunities as well.
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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for that, Minister. I hope that answered the question, Robin. Thank you. Someone here on the text line is wondering about a rail line that already existed from Virginia and Two Wells. It's only used for freight though, was that freight line looked at, Minister?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's right. It is a dedicated freight line, and we know sharing fight and passenger is tricky as different gay sizors. But it's also not near the growth areas that we've identified, so the Dry Creek, the Littleloo Corner, the River Lee area, and then weaving back up to Two Wells. So we know this is where the growth areas will be, and we know having a dedicated passenger rail line makes it so much faster and people will use it when it is more efficient and faster travel as well. So that's why this has been identified. There's been lots of options over the many years that have been considered, but going outside of the freight line. It is seen as coming over where the growth, where the houses are and making it as easy as possible is the best option.
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Speaker 1: These areas that have been earmarked on a floodplane.
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Speaker 6: So these are where developments are happening, and we know that that's why the infrastructure needs to go there because already they're being subdivided and used a lot of these areas for housing growth. And what we want to make sure is that we get these lands, this land preserved, so when you are looking at building or developing these areas, they know that there will be a rail corridor in these sections and not to build over them.
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Speaker 1: All right, minister, thank you for your time.
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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me Emily Burke.
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Speaker 1: There, the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport. What do you think eight double two three doublow is the number to call? Are you living in that area? Maybe you've purchased a house off the plan? Does this give you any comfort to know that the site has been identified or a rail corridor has been looked at for that area? The timeline is a bit of a sticking point for me. I think it's like I said, I think it's great and lots of people would be congratulating the gun meant that they're looking at rail corridors. But they made the same announcement in the Southern Suburbs nearly four years ago now, and there's been no work done on that rail line. Well, if there has been, they certainly haven't announced it publicly. So if there's not been any work done in four years in the Southern Suburbs, I'm not sure how long it's going to take for this Northern Suburbs rail line to be built. That's my concern. But I'd love to hear your thoughts. Eight double two to three double O double. Oh, Jason's in Salisbury East, Hello Jason.
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Speaker 11: Hey, Stacy too quick point riverly? Are they having problems with this TWI system out their way? First?
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Speaker 12: Of all?
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Speaker 5: Is the more important?
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Speaker 13: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think it was. The development was approved before the sewerage connections were made, so yes, they were.
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Speaker 11: I think it is.
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Speaker 1: It's in the process of being rectified. I think yep.
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Speaker 11: Something I wanted to ask, so I think I mentioned this before. On the line is on the year as well? Is they talk about trains or time? Were they're doing a monoail up above? So you have to worry about space down below. You can go on the side doing corners a lot fast as well. No problems with both, you know, widening thows that's sort of business with trains as well. It's fantastic.
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Speaker 1: I don't know a whole lot about Mono Rail's Jason, but I imagine there's a lot of cost involved in building up above as the point.
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Speaker 11: But then when they keep saying, oh, we don't have room there, you've got buddies house. We've got to we can't have the tranks flatten up and signed the monoail can sort like tilt go faster go over places because that trains can't go over.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, well, not something I've thought of, but yeah, I'll keep it in mind next time I'm talking to the Transport Minister. Thanks Jason, appreciate it. Eight double two to three double double oh is the number to call and happy to take your thoughts on that throughout the afternoon. You can also text them through zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Time for the one thirty news headlines now and after that. What precautions are the state governments in New South Wales and Victoria and the federal government's taking What will Security Agent hees be looking at at the moment with the isis Brides expected to return to Australia at some point soon.
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Speaker 14: Five Double A afternoons with Stacy.
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Speaker 1: Lee at twenty eight minutes to two. Here on five double A, getting lots of text messages from you about the government's announcement to plan for a rail corridor in the Northern Suburbs where the developments are going up to Wells Riverley in that area. Andrew on the text line says, there needs to be rail between murray Bridge and Adelaide, through Mount Barker, through some other towns in between that connects to the existing bel air line.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in the Hills and the murray Bridge area would agree with you on that one, Andrew. This person says, why weren't they planning properly? They haven't identified this line when the Riverlely development was first to prove four to five years ago. This is an election stunt only. And this person says there was also a line to Roseworthy and baross and that's been removed but it could be renewed. Thank you for your text messages, Keep them coming. Zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five, or you can give me a call to have your say on any of the matters we're discussing here on the Afternoon's program. The number is eight double two to three doubleow, double ow. You've been hearing a lot in the news over the last week or so about the so called ISIS brides and their children, thirty four of them living in a Kurdish controlled camp near Damascus in northeast Syria. What happens when they get back to Australia is what we're going to talk about today. There's been a lot of I guess political arjibaji about who's helping them to get back here and is the government helping them? The Albanese government has denied that they're getting assistants, but have said if they do manage to find their way back to Australia, there's not much authorities here can do because they have passports. What happens if and when they get here, though, what will security agencies be preparing for? What are police squads in New South Wales and Victoria looking at. Let's talk to Peter Morony now, he's a former New South Wales senior investigator in the terrorism Investigations Squad. Good afternoon, Peter, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 3: No, not a problem for the talk.
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Speaker 1: Again, I imagine there's so many different aspects of this that different levels of police are looking at.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you're absolutely right, and it's not just the law enforcement and intelligence communities. Just a bit of an example is that we know in October twenty twenty two we had seventeen repatriated isis bridesy repatriated back into Australia. Then now that was under a bit of a joint National state banner, but that involved Department of Health, Department of Education, Department of Housing in South Wales, Police Asio AFP and it was a big uplift. And it's to take a view that while if they get here, will leave them to their own devices, I think's bordering on just being negligent. There's so much at risk for a lot of people, not just themselves but the communities in which they will find themselves.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they've been living in Syria for a while now. You can't help but think that there's been some sort of training, so they've been adopting the way of life in these camps in Syria. How will they reintegrate back into Australian life, in Australian culture, you would imagine they might not even want to.
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Speaker 3: And that's a really fair point. And let's look at the kids as an example. Is there some of those kids that have probably never seen foot or never set foot my apologies, inside a classroom at all. So technically, let's take the fourteen year old. They could come back to Australia under their Australian passport and nothing would stop them, perhaps from an enrolling in Department of Education school, but that just won't work coming. I know, when the other ones were brought back in October twenty twenty two under Albanesi's government, there was a whole string of assessments that had to be done, you know, there was psychological assessments, literacy and numerousy assessments. Then it was the case of all, which schools do we put them in integrating them into those schools? What support plans will they have, what support workers will they have? Simple things like computers. Have they ever seen a computer in their life? And how do we get them up to speed on that basis, given most of our schools, if not all of our schools, use a computer in some capacity in varying grades. It's such a plethora of work to be done, and it's not just law enforcement and intelligence. And then the real question cost, what's it really going to cost the New South Wales or the Victorian taxpayer or is mister alban easy going to chip in as well?
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Speaker 1: And so then when you talk about costs, my mind goes to not necessarily the money but side of things. But surveillance. Surely there would be discussions at the moment with all of those agencies that you mentioned, how are these people going to be monitored if and when they get here? And sure there will be a financial cost to that, but I think most Australians would say, whatever it costs, please make sure you're keeping track.
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Speaker 3: And this comes to really difficult thing is that before they get here, it would have been ideal for them to be assessed properly from a psychological point of view, but also vetted by Asia or our partners over there in terms of just getting an understanding of what is the actual environment they've been in, what is the actual environment they've been exposed to? Because earlier comments, right, is a couple of things can happen. We think about this ourselves. If we get immersed into a particular cultural or particular environment, over time, we may start to adopt such views or hold such thought processes. The real difficulty for us then becomes is when we bring them back, where do we put them into? If I put them into a certain area of say New South Wales here in Sydney, which is where they may likely go, I know that there's some relevant let's call them outspoken in arms that live within that era, and does that make them susceptible to that? To your point on the intelligence and the surveillance, yeah, you're right, And the question is how long do we monitor them for? And what is that going through that financial cost? It will be physical surveillance. Is there also electronic surveillance that comes into that? So all of those man ows get added up, of course, as you rightly saying, which all spells spills into a fairly large budget. And that doesn't even take in the play at the moment, health, education, housing and all of those other common sense things that we've got to break down and have a look at.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, do people know will people find out where they're living? I mean, I wouldn't want anyone to be anyone's house or addressed to be put up online for anyone to go and do what they want. But I also I wouldn't feel comfortable with a group of people who have been in Syria for however many years living next door to me.
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Speaker 3: And again that's another key aspect of it, isn't it. We've got to manage that now. And I'd certainly be exceptionally surprised if it was made known in terms of what particular areas or particularly for the children, what school they may attend. I really don't think that would happen. Could it be found out? Yes, potentially. Look, there is a positive side, and so when I stay on a positive side from those that came back in October twenty twenty two, but with government assistance and government integration to date, as far as I'm aware from the sources that I speak to in various different agencies, things touch would say if I have gone well for them similated. Some are about to graduate from the year ten in the high schools and potentially HSCs. So this coordinated approach has worked. But as I heard at the top end of your story, this is a real big divide in question that sits amongst the community. Some hate it, some can understand it, and some obviously will be fought. But it's such a divide on the community at the moment.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it is.
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Speaker 1: And I guess then you've got the added layer of complication with the fact that it's children as well. It's one thing to have a woman or a wife or a bride who's gone over to Syria from Australia to support her brother or husband. It's a different situation for each of them, the eleven women, But then there's twenty three children there. Some of them are babies, four years old, six year olds. You mentioned a fourteen year old, so I guess they're at different ages and different levels of influence for their surroundings. You know, I've got an eight month old baby and wouldn't really be very influenced by her surroundings if she was to move overseas right now. So it's a hard one to be so black and white on I guess.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, you're absolutely spot on. And look, I know from personal experience and that you know, we've investigated women that have left Australia and have traveled to find a partner overseas. Now they willingly do that, as you rightly point out, they know the environment they're about to head. However, I also know of women that have taken their teenage daughters, you know, twelve at the time of thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen, and then married them off once they've got over there. Now you stop and go, well, we can't have a one size fits all. Is that this young child as art or fifteen at the time, sent overseas and went with the mother and then were as a child my words, gifted to a soldier to be this child right now, there's no information that's relevant to any of the current ones. I'm just setting a scene by way of background to emphasize your point. Is that is it that child's fault? Do we take with them with a single black and white view? And this is why there's so many I'll but hang on, what about this? But what about that? But also how I want about this? And that is what's causing such divide up. Look, even amongst the people I speak to and the dinner conversation you have, it's such a dividing view, even amongst families and siblings that you have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you know, I imagine it's not just around dinner tables that people are talking about this or on talkback radio. As you say, different levels, different high level security agencies are talking about it and planning for it too.
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Speaker 3: They definitely would be. Look, it's going to take look at the sheer number of people and look the individuals, and this is the unknown that for you and I actually sit here and talk about it is. I would be exceptionally surprised, last dumbfounded if a GEO to some degree have not already done assessments. I'm pretty comfortable they would have the same. Federal police would also be with them. There would be communication going on between VIC Pole and New South Wales Police and those agency there would have to be. But then it then sits with those state based agencies in amongst you know, look at all the current policing based issues we've got around the country, not just New South Wales and becomes another added factor. And the biggest thing that I get told by those that are in is that they haven't seen a scent of Commonwealth funding support for anything.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's good. That'd be a lot of people interested to hear that.
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Speaker 13: Peter.
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Speaker 1: It's always good to chat with you and appreciate your time again this afternoon.
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Speaker 3: My pleasure than much. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Peter Marony their former New South Wales senior investigator in the Terrorism investigation squad there in New South Wales. So yeah, I think there's a lot of people who have concerns about this. I'm one of them. I don't really think it's appropriate for a government to help them come back. The federal government says they're not helping these people come back and not assisting them with repatriation. But if they do make their way back with an Australian passport, they can't be turned around. What do you think eight double two three double oh is the number to call. We'll take some calls after this break, especially if you want to talk about the rail corridor in the northern suburbs. Maybe you've got an idea about where we need a train line. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Eight double two three double O double O.
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Speaker 14: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee, twelve.
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Speaker 1: Minutes to two. Here on five Double A after two o'clock it's our real estate segment. We'll have Sam Hayes in the studio from two and two Rural and today we're going to be discussing the downsizer policies of both of the parties. Want to ask Sam. We've got as you know, we've had different downsizer policies from Labor and the Liberal Party and the lead up to the election. I'd like to ask Sam this afternoon though, if this has piqued your interest and you're thinking about downsizing, what do you need to consider? When should you look at buying a house compared to selling the house you're in? What other aspects should you consider? How much work should you do on your house if you're looking at selling it. It's always there's always these questions that people have should I invest in a house that I want to sell? So we'll answer those questions after two o'clock with Sam Hayes from Tube and Tupe, but now taking your calls. Eight double two three, double O double OW is the number and Bruce is in Golden Grove. Hello, Bruce, good afternoon.
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Speaker 9: How are you Sophie?
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Speaker 1: Good? Thank you? How are you fantastic?
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Speaker 7: And hidden?
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Speaker 15: Better?
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Speaker 1: Good? Good to hear.
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Speaker 3: Hey just listening to the minister's comments.
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Speaker 9: Sadly I thought she didn't answer one question, she'd just avoided all the questions and to say that. I think people are.
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Speaker 16: Really going to be excited and really happy now that we've announced that we're going to start looking at where we can put this rail or you know, nothing's been said in stuffe. In fact, I felt, well, I was listening to an episode of Utopia, the show that the ABC.
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Speaker 1: It was a good show.
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Speaker 3: It was a good show.
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Speaker 9: I think she was out of the show for one of the government officials, because that's what that show was all about, just putting things off. In fact, I remember they did one on the train service and I think it was Victorians South Well and the minister wropped up on a scooter because the train couldn't go any more than twenty k's because it was nowhere ready or approved.
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Speaker 13: It I did.
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Speaker 1: I did think the same thing, Bruce. I had to infer a lot from the answers, so I you know, I had to assume when I asked if there was a timeline, Okay, that didn't really get that answer, but I'm assuming that means there's no timeline, you know, on this announcement, on a previous announcement in the southern suburbs. So yeah, it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot that's been involved in this planning. Some people would some people would say it's good that they're thinking about it, and previous governments haven't thought about it, so at least it's a step in the right direction, but perhaps a very small step.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, But unfortunately, who's who's going to be in power when it should be coming to the provision a whole new.
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Speaker 16: Gunment say no, sorry, we don't have the budget, we don't have the money.
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Speaker 9: So it will just get questioned again. So sadly though, like I say.
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Speaker 16: Good, they're talking about it.
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Speaker 9: So it was disappointing that she couldn't give you finas she just from.
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Speaker 8: Every question you gave.
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Speaker 17: Unfortunately, that was my thought on it.
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Speaker 9: And you have a great day.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Bruce, you too appreciate it. Eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to have your say. John's in hall at Cove.
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Speaker 2: Hello, John, good tasty, here you go.
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Speaker 1: Good, thank you.
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Speaker 7: Just about the extension down to Aldinger as a sidetrack from that, no pun intended. The government still owns the Royal Corridor location from the southern suburbs all the way through to Victor Harbor where they used to be the train running effective training used to run all the way down to Google. Why haven't they ever thought about reinstating the train line from Adelaide through the southern suburbs all the way through to Victor because they still owned the area. It's now part of a walking trail, bicycle and walking trail, but they still own the land.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's good. I guess that the government still owns the land. They haven't sold it off and then need to buy it back. But yeah, if they own it, what are they doing with it?
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Speaker 16: And why not it's there?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and they'd probably argue it's now a public use bicycle and walking trail. Well, yeah, they can incorporate something like that, I'm sure, but it's still there.
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Speaker 1: Interesting. I'll have to ask that question next time the minister's on John. Yeah, all right, thank you, appreciate it. Eight double two to three double oh is the number to call now. Today is a big day in America. It's the day of the State of the Union address and US President Donald Trump has been giving his State of the Union address. He's got the Vice President JD. Vance sitting behind him, who's been nodding along very efficiently for the entire address. Which has been about forty five minutes so fast. So I imagine jd. Vance's neck is getting a bit sore this afternoon. There was one point which was very interesting where Trump addressed the crowd personally and asked them to get involved to support one of his policies, and there was a bit of a conflict with one woman in the crowd.
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Speaker 18: One of the great things about the State of the Union is how it gives Americans the chance to see clearly what their representatives really believe. So tonight, I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration and reaffirming a fundamental principle. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. In that shame, you should be ashamed of yourself not standing up, you should be ashamed of yourself. That is why I'm also asking you to end deadly sanctuary cities that protect the criminals and enact serious penalties for public officials who block.
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Speaker 15: The removal of criminal aliens.
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Speaker 18: In many cases, drug lords, murders all over our country.
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Speaker 14: They're blocking the.
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Speaker 18: Removal of these people out of our country. And you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Speaker 1: Very tense there at the State of the Union address, so that I don't know the name of the woman that he was having the conflict with, but she was sitting there in the crowd wearing a hijub, and you could see it was very tense. She was yelling back at him, he was pointing at her. You should be ashamed of yourself and it was all very awkward. Getting some text messages from you now about the ISIS brides as well. Jane makes a really interesting point. They can't turn away people returning from Syria, but I can be turned away from entering the UK if I don't renew my British passport. What bureau Chrissy.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That follows the conversation we were having in travel Talk yesterday with Pete Williams from Filhoffman Travel about the new rules in the UK which was set to come in today. If you're traveling to the UK and you're a Jeel citizen, or you've ever had a UK or Irish passport, and you can be a Jewel citizen without even knowing it, if one of your parents was born there and you've never even registered to be a citizen or lived there. You can actually still be a Jewel citizen. Well, you won't be allowed in the country unless you get yourself a passport or what's called a certificate of entitlement, which costs around one thousand dollars. Yes, very interesting times. You make a good point, Jane, thank you for that. Eight double two three double O Double O is the number to call. After the two o'clock news, we've got real Estate Radio with Sam Hayes from TWOP and TWOP Rural, and then after two thirty it's Tech Talk, so it's our talk back hour. Make sure you get on the phone. Eight double two three double O double.
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Speaker 14: O five double A. Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Welcome to the second hour of the afternoons program. I'm Stacy with you through until four o'clock. It's seven minutes past two, and after two thirty it's Tech Talk with Richard Pasco. Eight double two three double O Double OH is the number to call if you have a tech related question. But you can use that number now if you'd like to talk real estate.
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Speaker 13: Five double A Real Estate Radio brought to you by TOOP and two for everything real estate talk to A two.
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Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio today is Sam Hayes from TWOP and TWOP Rural. Hello.
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Speaker 13: Sam, it's Stacy.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having no I appreciate you coming in and there's a lot to talk about in the real estate industry at the moment. After three point thirty, I'll be chatting to Matthew Richardson, the CEO of the Port Adelaide Footy Club new suburb out in Port Adelaide housing development.
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Speaker 13: Can't wait to find out more about that. Yeah, it could be a smart.
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Speaker 1: Move, that'll be very interesting. But we've been discussing on the program this week downsizing because it's been the subject of both parties coming out with slightly different but albeit very similar policies at the end of the day in regards to helping people move out of their homes, helping older South Australians move out of their homes and into a smaller property, because I think that's something a lot of people consider when once the kids have grown up and moved out, they'd like to sell and downsize into something smaller. But there are a lot of barriers, including stamp duty and doing that. So I guess what are some things we need to consider if we're thinking about downsizing.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, we see it all the time. So we see it here in Metro, we see out and where we operate in rural environments too. So for our farmers, downsize often means they're going from a two thousand acre farm to a one hundred acre farm, so they might not exactly be moving into a townhouse. But yeah, look, there's a lot of things to consider, and downsizing, I think is a little less about giving something up all the time. It's more about sort of choosing what matters most to people. And we have this conversation a lot out on country properties. It's not something you want to leave too late either, because moving house is stressful at the best of times. If you're thirty five and at the top of your game, whenever you are on top of your game, whatever age that is, shout out to all the thirty five year olds out there.
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Speaker 1: That's me. I'm feeling on top of my game.
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Speaker 17: There we go.
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Speaker 13: I didn't even know I did that, not deliberately so, but you know, certainly we see on the bigger properties. You don't really want to be selling a farm when it's looking a bit tired. Likewise, a house in the east and of Adelaide or northern suburbs, wherever you live. If you get into the stage where you can't quite maintain your property the work is getting a little bit too much, then it is definitely time, or maybe it was time two years earlier, to start thinking about downsizing. For a lot of people, they're wondering whether they want to move, you know, closer to the city. They're contemplating whether they need room for grandkids. A lot of people just want that lock up and leave flexibility and reduce maintenance. So yeah, and sometimes you're reducing maintenance and sometimes you're just relocating maintenance. So there's a lot to consider when you're downsizing. But it is something that I would encourage people to do, you know, sooner rather than later. If it's if you're at that stage of life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point you make, because you still need to be, you know, ready to sell your house, which I think a lot of the time after for a lot of people who have lived in their home for so many years and had kids and have so many memories there, I think the getting over the emotional barrier of selling the family home is almost harder than listing it. For sale and selling.
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Speaker 13: It absolutely, I mean there's no doubt. I mean, think of all the memories that are made in those homes. We're selling a home for a family that have been there since the nineteen seventies. They well and truly ready to move. They built the house up in the Brossa Valley, beautiful home they've already bought. So they bought in in town where it's easy. They can walk to the shops, they can walk to the to the health facilities, whatever they need. But I think some families also too worry about the kids more than they need to. They think, oh, let you know, the kids have got that. That was you know, Bob's first bedroom and that's where Stacy first took her first steps. The kids and you're normally saying, come my, mom and dad, let's get this. Let's get you moving into something that's a bit more manageable, and you don't want to rely on your adult children to have to help you through that process. You know, the more you can do for yourself. I think, probably speaking from someone in that age group where our parents are turning, you know, seventy five eighty, now, you really want to be able to manage that yourself independently the best you can, with as much help from the family as you need, of course. And I think those decisions too, when you're buying and selling homes, you know there is an element of stress in them, and I think you don't want to and that you know, as we get older, you know that those sort of decisions can become more stressful. So I think it's a good thing to try and tackle, you know, that year or two earlier than what you might be thinking.
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Speaker 1: Both of my parents, they're divorced, but both of them were living in homes and have sold homes and are now living in apartments into different states, but both living in apartments, and they're both loving it. They love the idea that they don't have to have a backyard to worry about anymore, no lawn to mow. My mum's got three cacti that she doesn't have to feed anymore, and that's all she's got to worry about, apart from taking it looking taking after herself. So yeah, I think a lot of people do like that idea, Like you said, of the lock up, no maintenance, nothing to worry about in terms of stuff around the house.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, it just makes life simpler and they can focus on the things that they want to do. And yeah, I think from a macro point of view, you know, the States, it's a good move from the state to think about how they can free up more of these larger family homes for the larger families. And you know, you don't need to be cleaning an extra two or three dusting an extra two or three bedrooms, you know, when you're getting to an age where you should be playing bridge, or you know, down at the Bowles club or wherever you want to be at the pub even yeah, the pub, wherever you want to be. And for us farmers like we have this a lot. And I've been dealing with a couple of examples just in the last two months where you know, downsizing from a large farm into a lifestyle brock is more than just a property to and it's often a financial and structural one as well. So the first thing I'd say to any farmers listening is that do speak to your accountant early. I mean, we're not here to give accounting advice, but in many cases farmers may be eligible for CGT concessions if they structure the sale right and move on to some sort of level of primary production in their next property, So they go from a big farm to a one hundred, one hundred and fifty acres. But if they're carrying on some sort of primary production, and a lot of our clients they don't want to retire fully from farming. They just don't want to be cropping two or three thousand acres. If they're chasing around a few cows or sheep, you know, in the hills, that's perfect for them. So the simple checklist we give our clients is, you know, understand your tax position before you list or buy. Decide whether you're fully retiring or just transitioning gradually to doing a bit less work. And if you're continuing moving to a smaller bot, are you going to carry on former primary production. But there's a lot of questions that you should have with your financial planner or your accountant and make sure the timing of your sale and purchase aligns with your broader succession and retirement plan. So our clients are running businesses, you know, for farming businesses, so there's it's more than just a property lifestyle decision. It's a business decision too. But we're seeing lots of farmers right size. In fact, most of our lastyle properties, the bigger ones in the hills that we're selling at the moment, it's less about the tree changes. It's more about the farmers downsizing. So that's another form of downsizing that happens in our world.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think a lot of that advice translates to people in the metro area too. Speak to an accountant, to a financial planner before you do it, because again CGT does come into play depending on how many properties you have. If it's the house you're living in properly, you're not your exempts.
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Speaker 14: Which is good.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you've got superannuation, I know that there's different tax rates you can put some of it. There's a downsize of contribution money that can go into SUPER. So i'd be getting advice on that because if you do sell your family home you can put a lumps I'm into SUPER in some cases, so yeah, i'd.
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Speaker 13: Be absolutely speaking to someone. You're freeing up a bit of money too, which is good, so you want to know what to you know where to put that wisely, which could.
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Speaker 1: Affect your pension. If you're over sixty seven and you're on a pension. If you're then getting more money in your pocket, that could have an impact on.
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Speaker 13: That absolutely, So seek that advice earlier, is what i'd say. I've you know, sometimes people fall in love with with the next house before they've had those conversations, and that can be a rush and a stress, you know, So it's definitely good to get on top of that and be prepared for what's next.
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, do you any tips or have you had any experiences with people about buying or selling first? Should you start looking for that new property before you want to sell or should you sell first?
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Speaker 13: That's a really good one, actually, and that's I mean, in fact, I've been living through that, where we always live through that. But I guess if you take the two, if you say sell first, the advantages of selling first is that you know your budget, so you know what you've got to spend on your next place. You're not guessing. You are in a stronger negotiation position when you're not subject to sale, so when you can make an offer. I know some people you know are fortunate that they can make offers on houses without selling their home, but that's sort of probably rare, so often it's subject to sale, subject to finance, so you're under a lot less financial stress when you sell first. The negatives are that you may need temporary accommodation if you can't sort of once you've sold, if you can't find something fast enough, and you might feel a bit of pressure to find something quickly, you know, once you have sold option two, which is by first, I guess you could call this higher risk, higher comfort. The comfort is that you secure the property that you love, so that works. You usually don't have to move twice. The negatives are you're you can be under more financial pressure, so there is a bridging finance cost that you might have to accrue because if you could be holding two properties for a period, and there are risks if your sale takes longer. So we've been through that often where our clients have said, right, Sam, you need to sell this property and needs to settle at the end of April, because that's when I've gone to contract unconditionally on another property and it's settling in April, so you know, that's.
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Speaker 15: Go for it.
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Speaker 1: No pressure thereure, I need to sell it by this day and.
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Speaker 13: At this price incidentally, no less than of course, so that that risk of the sale taking longer. Is also the risk of vendors feeling clients feeling like they may have to accept a price that isn't you know, what they were hoping at the start. That's probably going to be the case, you know, if you're selling first as well, the market works out the price pretty quickly. So but yes, so that is there's no one size fits all, aren't so. I guess it comes down to your appetite for risk and your financial position. But in certain markets, I'd say selling first is often the more conservative strategy, and i'd probably in most cases i'd recommend it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. If you have a question for Sam, eight double two three, double double, oh is the number to call. After this, we'll talk about how you should prepare your home to sell it, whether you're a downsizer. I guess a lot of a lot of the advice would be universals across the property sector. So we'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 14: Five double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
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Speaker 1: Twenty minutes past two Here on five double A, we're in the middle of real estate radio with Sam Hayes from Tupe and Tube Rural, and we're talking about downsizing So if you've got a question eight double two three double o double, Oh, it doesn't have to be a downsizer question. It can be a different property related question. But Sam, I did want to ask you about out how you should prepare your home for a downsizer sale, and I guess that question applies even without the word downsize. Is there a difference in how you prep it if you're downsizing or just selling in general.
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Speaker 13: Overarchingly? No, but there is some things that I guess if you're selling to a downsizer you need to think about. So downsizers are offering often in a pretty financially strong position because they're sort of, you know, they're downsizing, they're moving from a bigger home to a small one. They're not looking for a project. So I guess you want to make sure that your home is, you know, had that little bit of maintenance that is required so that they don't see jobs they don't want. No one wants to see a job, but not someone who's sort of retired and not doesn't want any. They're usually emotionally ready for their next stage, so presentation matters as much or more simplicity. He often sells clean storage spaces, so downsizers do care about storage. Often they've got lots of stuff still they can't quite let go of everything. So you really want to declutter, and I think that decluttering up well what we say, and it's almost easier saying it to everyone listening today, not specifically to one on one to a client, but we say, you don't really live of course, you don't live in a display home, you know, but we sort of need to sell a bit like it is. And this is the same you know, whether we're selling a farm. The home is silly important piece of that puzzle for the people making that emotional decision to move. So we sort of say less is more. You know, you want the home to feel like it's it's bigger in a way, so we're removing twenty percent of the furniture can make a room feel thirty percent bigger, and you know, clear bench spaces in the kitchen make it look bigger. So those family photos trophies, we all really love the fact that you won the best team player in your netball team in nineteen eighty five, but at the end of the day, that's not going to make, you know, an emotional attachment for the person that's there. So removing some of that stuff, and decluttering isn't about judgment. We're not making a judgment on your taste or style. What we're trying to do is actually make it a little bit vanilla. We're trying to you know, you need a lot more of stuff to live, but to sell, you don't need all that stuff. So we call it live mode and sell mode.
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Speaker 1: So you want it to be appealing to a broad range of people. You don't know who's going to be the successful buyers, so you don't know what their style is, what they're type of fashion they.
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Speaker 13: Have absolutely and it's not about being fancy. It's about creating sort of space and light and that's what and often you know this isn't sort of my forte but we do have stylus in our regional country areas that we work with and they do a great job, you know, of creating that space and light. So yeah, buyers a quake clutter with a lack of storage too, so you know they do think of it, and you know downsizes would be the same that they look at that and say, okay, So even if you're not removing your furniture replacing it with sort of a stylus furniture just less is more, So you'd almost pack like you're moving. Well, you are moving anyway, so pack like that. You know, you could hire a container or storage space for eight weeks, but yeah, be committed to that change and move into sell mode, It is what I'd say.
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Speaker 1: And what about once you get to sell mode? And I've spoken about this with Bronti over the seasons as well. Often people think, oh, spring, springtime, selling time. It's a good time. Everyone's out looking for properties. It's the best time I've got to put it on the market in spring?
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Speaker 6: Is that right?
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Speaker 15: Well?
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Speaker 13: Look, I mean I my feeling is that timing of selling has as much to do with when you want to move as it does Obviously, we're always trying to get the most for your property. I'm a bit of a myth buster on the must sell in spring. I feel that if I was to try and sell something, anything, especially my most valuable asset, I probably want to be selling when less people were selling. So right now, for example, there's a lot of people think, Okay, it's going to rain this weekend, you know, in the rural lifestyle farms, you know, Okay, seating started, maybe we'll get the crop in and you know, look great in spring, but you are competing with a lot more farms and a lot more houses sort of come autumn spring. So we've found we've had a lot of success with off market campaigns in the summer and on market campaigns in the summer. So yeah, spring, I don't know if spring necessarily has more buyers anyway. I actually think that there's people looking for property all year round. There's just more properties on the market in spring. So winter can be powerful and summer can be powerful when supply is low, and yeah, the right property price correctly sells all year round.
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Speaker 1: We've historically been looking for houses over the summer period. You know, absolutely there's really anything on the market. It's often when people are on holidays as well, so you'd have more time if you're not on holiday away. But for us, when we were looking for a home and we had more time, we didn't have as many commitments over that period, so we wanted to go to opens and there just wasn't much on the market, and I was thinking this would be great, a great time to sell because we're here, we're ready, we've got our money, and there's barely anything around.
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Speaker 13: That's my view, and I think that you and your husband are sitting there thinking, well, now we've we'll wait until the roses are out, because that's when we want to buy. You know, like that you're you're not making your decisions based on what suits the garden. You're making the decision on what suits you and your time at stage your life and what you're doing. And often you're making those big decisions, you know, in that break between Christmas and New Year. So yeah, so I think there's a lot to be said for that. And you know, I was only showing someone a property in the Brossi yesterday and I was saying, look, this is one that we've contemplated it. You know, we've talked about whether it could come on the market in spring. It was an off market inspection, so he was just he and his wife were having a look through the property and he just said, Sam, I you know, I just love it now, like this is Australia, this is summer, this is you know this, I'm from a country, I'm from a farm, this is how it exactly what I'd expect, And just got me clicking back out of that. Oh god, I need to wait till spring.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, what about prepping your house for sale? You mentioned the decluttering side. You know, we all often hear people saying, I need to paint the house, or do we need to fix up the backyard that we've been needing to renovate the kitchen for years? Should we do that before we sell? What's your advice?
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Speaker 13: Look, it's horses for courses, So it depends first and foremost, I want to find out what the family who owned the property, what their timeframe is like, when do they want to move, and what's driving that decision? Like, you know they're moving for work, it's there. Are they on a tight timeline? Have they got more time? The last thing you want to do is put yourself under immense pressure with a whole lot of jobs dealing with trades. You know, your marriage is more important than you know the exact precise time of your house and even if you get another ten grand or ten ground more or less a lot of the time, So just don't put yourself under too much pressure. But generally, and I did you know my wife and I have done this ourselves. But a fresh paint and maybe new carpets, I think that's probably especially if you've had the carpets for ten fifteen years and gone through four kids like we have. You know, the carpets and the paint is usually a good idea. Do you need to do a full kitchen renot, bathroom renos, I'd say often no, I would do that. Decluttering, I'd almost do it. I try and start that process before you even get your agents out, because you want to give them a clear picture. Two p always used to say you only get one chance to make a first impression, and I guess that's the same for your agent too. I mean they should be able to see through a little bit of clutter. But you know, start that process early. Fix up things that need to be fixed. You know they do scare buyers, but it's perception issues, you know, tied carpet, stated lighting. You know that can impact emotion. So focus on them and maybe leave some of those bigger projects because you know you may not always have the same taste as your buyer, and heaven forbid, you might do all that work and they might want to change it anyway.
01:03:31
Speaker 1: Yes, I often see because my husband's in the property industry, is a valuer, so we'll look at listings every now and then, and when you see that kitchen with the bright green splashback or you know, really fancy feature light that's all colorful and abstract, and you think, not my taste, that would be the first thing I'd change. And so if you've gone and done that recently or just for sale, and someone's going to come in and replace it straight away, it's a waste of money lutely.
01:04:00
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:04:00
Speaker 13: Absolutely, So there's yeah, look there's things you can do. And actually, if time is important and you want to get it properly on the market, just get it on the market, you know, and you know your agent will give you the best advice they can, and you're really our old rule of thumb is if you're going to spend ten grand, you probably want to be quietly confident you can get twenty or thirty back increase on the sale. So you sort of push your agent to sort of make sure that that might be the case. If they're saying, look, we'll spend ten we might get an extra fifteen, Well for that five grand, there's you know, that's a bit that could be a risky, risky improvement. So yeah, so they are interesting decisions, but great things to have in consultation with your agent and have that open conversation about what could and couldn't be done within the time frame that suits you. You're the boss on your timeframe, so work within it and don't put yourself under too much undue pressure.
01:04:56
Speaker 1: Some good advice there, Sam, Thank you as always great to chat. Thanks that Sam Hayes there from twop and two Rural and he'll head into the real estate lounge now, So if you did want to have any of those open and frank conversations with Sam, he'll be taking your calls off air eight double two to three, double O, double five is the number. Half past two. Time for news headlines. Then it's Tech Talk with Richard Pasco five.
01:05:18
Speaker 14: Double A afternoons with Stacy Lee.
01:05:21
Speaker 1: Let's check in with the weather bureau now. Daniel Hayes is there. Good afternoon, Daniel, Yeah, I think it's pretty pleasant day today and I'd say just a lovely summer's day.
01:05:35
Speaker 19: Yeah, looks so far temperatures around about average. We're certainly will on our way to hitting that top of thirty today around about twenty eight in the city and we've hit twenty nine around the north, so you dirty probably before the end of the day we'll get there, and yeah, look it's probably going to be a fairly similar sort of day. Tomorrow might be a touch warmer, but we're still looking at that system up to the north bringing some rain as we head towards the weekend. It is having an impact now though. Its presence that deepening trough up that way, as well as the high pressure system to the south through the Bight, does mean that we still have that severe weather warning in place for some of those stronger winds potentially coming down off the hills and into the eastern and southern suburbs, particularly picking up through the overnight period again tonight. Now, yesterday we saw winds picking up. We've got gusts or at least recorded gusts up to round about eighty kilometers an hour. I don't think there was a great deal of damage reported from that, but we do have another shot at seeing some stronger winds overnight tonight. So that's severe where the warning does remain in places on the website. And yeah, once that's done, where you'll be focusing very much on the potential for rain coming down from the north from Friday. And look, this system is going to continue what it's been doing for the best part of the last week in that it's going to be quite slow moving, so that chance of potential to be of thunders activity on Friday extends into Saturday and possibly even through into Sunday and Monday, so it could be a bit of a wet weekend. It is shower and storm activity though, so there will be an element of hit and miss to it. It's unlikely to be constant rained throughout that whole period, but there could be some very intense showers or storms throughout a few days.
01:07:21
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, and you mentioned those those winds that we saw last night. Will that will they persist again tonight?
01:07:29
Speaker 19: Yeah?
01:07:29
Speaker 20: That's it.
01:07:29
Speaker 19: So, I mean looking up around the radar site, we're still seeing winds blowing it around about sixty kilometers an hour and gusting up to around about seventy They had the eighty three kilometer an hour gus there earlier this morning, Aprien Selex Hill there, so you know, other places through the lofties are seeing some stronger gusts. And yeah, as we head through the evening, we see the potential for some of that stronger wind pushing down into the eastern and southern suburbs.
01:07:52
Speaker 13: All right.
01:07:53
Speaker 1: Appreciate the update, Daniel.
01:07:54
Speaker 10: Thank you, You're welcome.
01:07:57
Speaker 1: I was grateful when I woke up this morning that it wasn't the last time we had big overnight storms. It was bin day and there was just rubbish everywhere. So yes, good luck to everyone whose night is midnight tonight. I going to talk about the opposite of rubbish now, Pasco, pasco, can you turn it up?
01:08:15
Speaker 14: And then can you turn it on again?
01:08:19
Speaker 1: I tried to come up with a with a fun sort of it didn't really work. It was fine opposite of rubbish. Let's just compliment. Could have gone the other way.
01:08:32
Speaker 21: So yes, I can just imagine you're trying to get your bin out as it's blowing gale down the street.
01:08:37
Speaker 15: You're holding on for.
01:08:38
Speaker 1: Grimm death pretty much.
01:08:43
Speaker 8: Richard.
01:08:45
Speaker 1: This week we wanted to talk about putting in your correct date of birth.
01:08:49
Speaker 15: What a good idea?
01:08:50
Speaker 22: Well is it?
01:08:51
Speaker 1: Because I've always been told when you're signing up to a website, you don't need to give them your full information. I have a fake name, I've got a fake date of birth that I always enter. But is this a risk?
01:09:02
Speaker 21: It is a risk with some things, because big cheerio to Sue who listens all the time sectionally. She signed up for a Microsoft account, two of them, and one of them she gave a date.
01:09:13
Speaker 15: Of birth being eight years old.
01:09:16
Speaker 21: Oh, so what happens with She had two accounts, one where she'd given her correct date of birth and the other one. She thought, I can control everything by making sure it's eight years old on there. But what happens was when she used the one that was eight years old, she was locked into that. It would go along and go one hour and shut it down.
01:09:36
Speaker 1: Oh, because it's trying to limit.
01:09:38
Speaker 21: Trying to limit screen time on there really not her off for it. So she had struggled to go along and figure out how to change all of this, and the person that set it up for her had done all the wrong things. So the eight year old one had an admin account. The other one, which was the the proper age, had a local account so couldn't change anything along the way. So what happened was we had to go along and make both of them an admin count. Then we're able to go in and change her data birth back to what it should be. I won't say that on airc.
01:10:18
Speaker 15: You grateful about grateful about that?
01:10:21
Speaker 21: And remove it from the family part out there. But it's also a lesson I think for a lot of parents out there that if you put the kids under the family one, you can knock them off to the computer pretty well. You can say you've got an hour of screen time.
01:10:37
Speaker 15: That's it.
01:10:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't realize you could do that.
01:10:39
Speaker 21: You can with the Microsoft Family Sharing on there. It's not that hard to go along and set up. You just need the two Microsoft accounts on there, all three or four to binny how many kids you've got, and you can get what websites they've been to. You know, if they're on Facebook or whatever it is. I'm sure they're over six even they're on Facebook, people, you can go and restrict I know.
01:11:02
Speaker 1: Interesting you say that. I was talking to someone who's under sixteen and they said they still have all of their social media accounts. A couple of their friends did get kicked off, but all they had to do was go and reregister another account and they were back on.
01:11:17
Speaker 21: And do you notice how the federal government's kind of like with backpedaled a lot. Now, I haven't heard much about it lately.
01:11:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess what would you hear?
01:11:25
Speaker 15: We've done it around and then been implemented.
01:11:28
Speaker 21: We fixed this and now it's going yeah.
01:11:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, But back to the date of birth. So I always do it online, particularly with shopping websites, because often they'll give you a bit of a bonus or a voucher or something an incentive for buying it at your birthday. And I always put my birthday around Christmas time because I know that's when I'll be shopping and I'll want the extra discount.
01:11:53
Speaker 15: That's not a bad idea. But you record it, don't you.
01:11:57
Speaker 21: No, do you write it down there but your day? But that's to get into the shopping website. Does it really matter?
01:12:04
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, you know.
01:12:05
Speaker 21: Google, Facebook, all of the big accounts. It matters for you to go on to put in the correct one yours. You're just getting a shopping bonus. Good luck to you for going along and do.
01:12:17
Speaker 15: That.
01:12:18
Speaker 21: But it's it really does matter for some of the other ones, because suddenly you've got to go back in, You've got to get back into your account and you go my date of birth was I've got no idea all the time that I once had an eighty year old claim she was eighteen.
01:12:34
Speaker 1: Oh well there, I just want to I couldn't.
01:12:37
Speaker 15: Remember the exact dates, so that didn't help on there.
01:12:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, all right, there you go. Good tip. Let's go to some calls now eight double two three double O double OW is the number? Stephen is in Ley? Hi Stephen?
01:12:51
Speaker 10: How are you good?
01:12:52
Speaker 1: How are you hi?
01:12:53
Speaker 15: Stephen?
01:12:54
Speaker 17: Thank you? Hello, Richard. I've got a question for you. Come. I had to get something sent from the r a A today, an email, right, and this is this has happened once before. They send it, though I never receive it, and I call them back and they said, oh, we'll re send it and I never receive it. What's the cause of that? And it only happens. It's a rare thing that it just happens on the odd occasion. What does something wrong with my phone?
01:13:23
Speaker 21: What does your email address ending? Don't give the whole email address.
01:13:27
Speaker 17: Out at ends in dot com dot au?
01:13:30
Speaker 15: Yeah, but yeah, can we narrow narrow down your question? Gmail? Dot com, Big pun dot.
01:13:38
Speaker 17: Com, hot hotmail.
01:13:40
Speaker 21: Hotmail dot Have you gone in stop laughing, Stacey? Have you gone in and made sure that all the security is tied down on your Microsoft and Hotmail account?
01:13:52
Speaker 17: I haven't done that yet.
01:13:53
Speaker 15: Run over and do it Steven.
01:13:56
Speaker 21: Will do all right, that is all part of it, because they're making sure that it's actually you that is going to get that email on there. And you know, every client I'm going to at the moment is going to Microsoft account. We go along, we go in there, we make sure we've got another recovery email address on there. We make sure that multi multicational authentications on there. We make sure we even now we're talking, keep make sure we've got a pass key on there, so you don't have to.
01:14:25
Speaker 15: Worry about that.
01:14:26
Speaker 21: All right, tie all that down, Stephen, and I think your issues will be over.
01:14:31
Speaker 1: And did you check your junk?
01:14:34
Speaker 17: I always checked my junk spam and it's not there. Yeah, But I'll do as Richard said. I've got a lot of got a lot of time for.
01:14:42
Speaker 10: Richard smart Man.
01:14:44
Speaker 17: Thanks good man anyway, and thank you, thank you enough to see her.
01:14:50
Speaker 1: Thank you stefan Us. See you do you bye Stephen and Onley there, let's go to heinmarsh Island.
01:14:59
Speaker 23: Now hallo on Hi Dacy, how are you hi?
01:15:02
Speaker 24: Richard T Dondy. Richard, I was just wondering would you subscribe to the theory that Windows Defender is now a viable alternative to one of the paid antivirus sweets I.
01:15:19
Speaker 21: Would for a lot of people out there, it's it's it's getting better all the time. And you know, if you follow all the golden rules that you've heard, which I've said, you know, if you don't click links and emails, you don't go to unsafe websites, you don't think the anti virus will stop you from doing that. Right, That's a big thing, because it's all your actions that are more important than the anti virus. A lot of antiviruses are very good out there, don if you if you want that extra guarantee, that's why you go to things like the Norton and the trend On there.
01:15:54
Speaker 15: But what I say, what I.
01:15:55
Speaker 21: Say for those is their primary job is to stop malicious software from infecting your computer, not doing anything else.
01:16:05
Speaker 24: Okay, okay, yeah, I'm just getting a bit sick of Norton. They spam me as much as the spam they're trying to prevent. We're always trying to upsell, telling me I've got five hundred thousand broken registry.
01:16:19
Speaker 15: That's yeah, you don't, yeah, yeah.
01:16:22
Speaker 24: So why do they do that?
01:16:23
Speaker 15: Oh?
01:16:23
Speaker 24: I know why they do it? Because they want you to click this week and the next thing.
01:16:27
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like they're spamming you, doesn't it. I get it too.
01:16:33
Speaker 24: There and you get these pop ups and they're from the any virus with that supposedly trying to stop you from get the.
01:16:39
Speaker 21: Pop up when they when they pop up, a lot of the time done and they come in that bottom right hand corner. If you hover over the X sometimes it will show don't show this again.
01:16:49
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah, I do that and keep going for that one.
01:16:53
Speaker 24: Okay, yeah, yeah, Now that we've actually mentioned a name, I've been doing a lot of googling around and Defender seems to have a very good reputation, lot cleaner, a lot lighter on resources, and a lot cheaper. Would you have any thoughts about that?
01:17:08
Speaker 23: I know you's no, it's okay, okay.
01:17:12
Speaker 21: You know there's a few I don't like, a vast abg avera McAfee, Kaspersky on there. But again, it doesn't matter which one you use, because again it's your actions that count because they will clean up after the event. They won't prevent you doing the event.
01:17:30
Speaker 24: Okay, sure, okay, great.
01:17:32
Speaker 13: All right, thanks don thank you very much.
01:17:35
Speaker 10: See you babe.
01:17:37
Speaker 1: That's Don in Heine, marsh Island. Let's go to Andrew in Ridge Haven. Hello Andrew, good guys.
01:17:44
Speaker 4: How are we going today?
01:17:45
Speaker 21: Good?
01:17:46
Speaker 25: Good Andrew, Richard. I spoke to you a couple of weeks ago about changing up to a different model I phone, which I've done, iPhone seventeen. I've got one issue with it. It's very frustrating. I use my phone ya my hearing aids so I can make the phone calls listen to double A obviously.
01:18:06
Speaker 1: That's good, good man, Andrew and.
01:18:09
Speaker 25: Your shows on Saturday, especially Richard.
01:18:11
Speaker 15: Thank you.
01:18:16
Speaker 25: The situation I have is just before I spoke playing you, guys, I walked from my house talking to somebody by my hearing aids, jumped into my car, started my mission, and then it jumped over to my car right. But then it starts jumping backwards and forwards to my hearing aids, to the phone, to the car again. And I pulled over where I'm picking up my granddaughter and I've rang you via my console. But when the when the phone is bringing it went back to my phone, not my car connection. I have to manually go in and select it. What do I have? What don't I have turned on or to go.
01:18:58
Speaker 15: You need to go and see you or theologist.
01:19:03
Speaker 25: For my hearing aids.
01:19:04
Speaker 21: You do to make sure that to make sure I've got what software is running them.
01:19:12
Speaker 25: I've never had an issue with this on my old iPhone. But it bounces between my phone and the car and my hearing aids, and only when I'm in the car. If I if I'm I don't start there. If I just dial somebody, dilect hearing aids go through my hearing aids right, so I can walk and talk.
01:19:30
Speaker 15: And do whatever.
01:19:31
Speaker 12: Again in my car, it's.
01:19:33
Speaker 25: Not bouncing between and now for some reason, But when I stepped into the car, when I was connected to my hearing aids and then selected the phone, it starts bouncing backwards and forwards to my phone, to my hearing aids back to the.
01:19:45
Speaker 21: Carrigagine there's a setting that needs to be changed in the software for your hearing aids to match the phone.
01:19:53
Speaker 15: Really, Yes, I've had this. I've had this before.
01:19:58
Speaker 25: Okay, see I reckon. It's something to do with the new software on the phone. It doesn't match my software.
01:20:03
Speaker 15: That's right on the hearing ape.
01:20:05
Speaker 25: Yeah, okay, all right, all right, thank you very much.
01:20:10
Speaker 15: For let me know how you go. Give me a call on Saturday.
01:20:13
Speaker 6: I'll do that.
01:20:15
Speaker 1: Good luck, Andrew, thanks for that. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number to call, and we'll take some more calls in just a moment.
01:20:22
Speaker 14: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
01:20:26
Speaker 1: It's nine minutes to three on five Double A and we're in the middle of tech talk with Richard Pasco, Adelaide tech guy here thanks to Harvey Norman computers at your Technology Specialists. So if you've got a question, eight double two three double o, double oh. John's in Port Agusta.
01:20:40
Speaker 23: Hello John, Hello, tam go the power, Yeah, world John Power. But Dire Joel, thing about getting the twenty third century and getting the Internet and good disclos what I'll just gout my phone in the moment and an Android phone yep, and box Sell, I'll just.
01:20:58
Speaker 15: Fell off my chair.
01:21:00
Speaker 1: I'll have the Internet. John, doesn't you don't have the Internet?
01:21:03
Speaker 23: I do not know. Well, I've got on my phone. But that's that's about it. But I'm thinking about getting the twenty first secret. But I'm just thinking about the provider to go with.
01:21:13
Speaker 15: What are you going to do? What are you going to do, John, What are you going to do? What are you going to do on the phone, on the on the internet, Yeah, what are you going?
01:21:21
Speaker 23: I'm going to stream. I'm going to stream with t V t V outlets. I haven't got to the buyer. But yep, like I'm a big sports page. Well now yea, yeah, I've got a Fox Sports already. I'll probably get characters a friend of mine to provide that for free.
01:21:41
Speaker 1: And that's good.
01:21:42
Speaker 23: Yeah, provide, I mean expect. I'm getting into the World game soccer, get sport one, a grol yp and and color of things maybe and asking John.
01:22:03
Speaker 21: Box, ask your neighbors up there, so you know, if the bloke next door is on Telstra, ask him. And I'm a big believer in you you get what you pay for. So you got to choice, said, do I go with the n B N through let's say say Telstra, or do I go let's say Optus on the cellular network on there? Right, But if you're go on the cellular network, just make sure it's going to work.
01:22:33
Speaker 12: Right.
01:22:33
Speaker 23: A friend of mine told me about Starlink or Starlight.
01:22:36
Speaker 15: Or what it's more expensive?
01:22:38
Speaker 3: John sixty five a month?
01:22:41
Speaker 15: Yeah, just to people.
01:22:43
Speaker 1: That's pretty cheap.
01:22:45
Speaker 15: It's so bad.
01:22:45
Speaker 21: But that's limited to the amount you can go along and download.
01:22:50
Speaker 15: So you start streaming? Do you start streaming things?
01:22:54
Speaker 23: I tell you box cls just a bug like.
01:23:02
Speaker 15: With that might not be a bad idea because you've already got Fox.
01:23:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you plan all right, well, make sure you listening after three point thirty, John, I'm gonna have Matthew richardson the CEO on stay listening. Someone caught the back end of our conversation on hearing aids Richard. They said on the text line, do all hearing aids have to connect to your phone? Is that what you explained or did I miss hear that?
01:23:32
Speaker 15: A lot of the hearing aids have got software.
01:23:35
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm just got a boom t shold on. Got to make sure the hearing aids settings exactly.
01:23:41
Speaker 21: So a lot of people out there that was a funny stage, thank you. A lot of people out there with hearing aids have got software sitting on their phones which control what happens to everything on there and all gets adjusted through the software on your phone for your hearing aids.
01:23:58
Speaker 1: So is there an app that you can go out to control your hearings.
01:24:02
Speaker 21: When they give you the hearing aids, there's normally an app that they'll put on your phone and they'll show you how to adjust it, or you go back and they can manually a.
01:24:11
Speaker 10: Just it for you.
01:24:12
Speaker 13: There you go.
01:24:14
Speaker 1: You learn something new every day. Kim in Ingle Farm has a question.
01:24:19
Speaker 12: Hello, Kim iv Hi Richard Richard, I know you're going to call me a dinosaur, but I have a Samsung S eight. I've only had it since twenty seventeen. It runs like a dream, but there are certain apps that I can no longer open because I believe they're no longer supported or get.
01:24:38
Speaker 26: Out of it.
01:24:38
Speaker 15: Kim never would have guessed that.
01:24:39
Speaker 12: I would say, it's a ripper phone. It's brilliant. I'm talking to you on it now.
01:24:44
Speaker 1: I know nothing sounds pretty good, but I am.
01:24:48
Speaker 12: Seriously thinking about updating. What's a good Samsung that's just about seven hundred dollars eight hundred A series, A series.
01:24:58
Speaker 21: But Sam sung oouncing I think it is tonight all their new Galaxy S twenty six off the top of my head phones out there, so the whole market kind of like changes a bit. So I'd wait a couple of weeks, Kim. But the A series are great phones, and they started about three three hundred and ninety nine dollars up to about seven hundred.
01:25:19
Speaker 12: Okay, well that's that's the price regular I'm looking at, So you go, I'll check it out. My twelve year old time keeps on giving me a hard time because he's a massive Apple Apple everything. So and I said, no, I'm sticking with Android. This phone's been great, So you've got to use what you like exactly, yes, and I'm going to keep doing it that way.
01:25:40
Speaker 15: There we go, good Kim, thank you, thanks for the call. And just quickly now he's hung up. My got that phone's old.
01:25:47
Speaker 21: Sorry, Kim, but if it works, if it works, But over time they stop going along and like all the apps start to fall over.
01:25:56
Speaker 3: I know.
01:25:57
Speaker 1: I hate that they do that on there. Just very quickly before we go. Richard Greg on the text line your thoughts on Sea Cleaner says, I have a lot of outdated apps on my computer.
01:26:07
Speaker 21: Loath Sea Cleaner with a passion on there as she brought. Now we're into people's computers at one stage. It's made by the same people who made a vast avg via. All the ones I absolutely hate on there and people go, my computer's not running. Well, I'll run this on there and it can cause issues on your computer. For all the Windows people out there. Instead of putting this on there is a storage sense which is built into Windows. You turn it on, does exactly the same job about getting rid of everything on your computer. There you go without putting something else on there.
01:26:43
Speaker 1: Ditch it, Greg, ditchit, Greg, ditch it. Greg. Thank you, Richard. Thanks Richard Pasco adelaide tech guy in the studio. Thanks to having Norman Computers your technology specialist. And he'll be back next week if you've got a tech question. Oh on Saturday. Back on Saturday twalk to five, twelve to five so you can talk to him. Then time for the three o'clock news now and after that. We got a call on Monday from one of you, from David and Glennell, and he said his kids, who had just graduated high school, were not taught the times tables at school and he was very concerned because they were graduating without knowing their times tables. It doesn't sound right to me, but we'll follow up on it. Well, we followed up on it, and you're going to hear from Martin Westwealth, the chief executive of the Education Department after the.
01:27:30
Speaker 14: News five Double A Afternoons with Stacey Lee.
01:27:35
Speaker 1: Welcome to the third and final hour of the Afternoons program. Make sure you stay listening this hour I have fringe tickets to give away, and after three point thirty we're going to hear a little bit more about Alberton Square, a new development in Port Adelaide that's going to be undertaken by the Port Adelaide Footy Club. It's going to be homes, residential, There'll be apartments there, there'll be a commercial space, health precinct area. So exactly what are they going to be building? Can you buy into it? Will it be rented? Who will be your landlord? If you forget to pay your rent? Is David Kosh going to come after you? How's it all going to work? We'll find out. I've got Matthew Richardson, the CEO of the footy club, on after three point thirty. But before we talk about that, a couple of days ago, if you were listening on Monday afternoon, it was around this time David from Glenelg called in and he was really worried about one particular part of the education system.
01:28:35
Speaker 2: Because I was at my daughter's graduation. I saw the principal raving how what wonderful students they were, and I decided to go and speak to a deputy principal after and I said, why doesn't my daughter know who time's tables? After doing year twelve maths?
01:28:51
Speaker 26: Oh?
01:28:52
Speaker 2: And I said, I don't think fifty percent of students would know their times tables and he said it's probably more. He said it's probably ninety percent. And I said why and he said, they don't teach it. He said, that's the junior primary school's job. And he said that they don't teach wrote learning times tables anymore. And he said it's ninety percent of our high school graduates.
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Speaker 1: Now, it sounded a little bit strange to me that kids in primary school or high school weren't learning their times tables, So we thought we'd follow up on that and get some answers. And the chief executive of the Education Department, Professor Martin Westwelk, joins you now this afternoon, good afternoon, Martin, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 20: Definitely, Stacy, is it true a.
01:29:43
Speaker 1: Kid's not learning times tables anymore?
01:29:45
Speaker 20: No, of course not a Multiplication is a really important part of the curricula, really important part of students learning. There's so much that builds on it, so it's absolute a core part. One of the things that perhaps that they don't do that perhapsices did a little while ago, is you know that chanting of tables, you know they kind of one seven, seven and two seven to fourteen, you know that character, Because that's not that's not super helpful. What we want for our students is definitely to practice their multiplication because what I want them to do is when I say six sevens, not that they go through one seven, seven, two, seven to fourteen and make their way to six, but they know forty two. It just pops into their heads. They've got They've got it automatically without even thinking about it. I want them to have their have practiced it, so that they've got that because that's going to be really important for their future learning.
01:30:44
Speaker 1: Okay, So, if it's not being taught in the way that you know, probably you and will certainly I was taught where you sit down and you're memorizing, how is it being taught.
01:30:55
Speaker 20: Well, there's lots of ways to practice those multiplication facts. Those you know, when we say timestables, you know, it sounds like it's this kind of you know, big table of CHANTI. It is the timetables. It is those same multiplication facts. There's lots of ways of practicing those, of course, things like no even simple things like flash cards or you know, even with our interactive whiteboards being able to flash up the multiplication you know, let's say six sevens on the screen and for the students to respond to that and be able to say forty two. We know that things like some of our teachers, when the student's been particularly struggling, you might spend a bit of extra time with them and throw a ball to them and pay six sevens and they can't throw the ball back until they've got forty two. And what that helps is is increasing that speed and then for those students who really are struggling with getting these getting their mental arithmetic automatic in this way. We've also got an intervention program called quick Smart that schools draw on for students between years for in you know, and that's the kind of intensive program. And one of the things that I love about that program is that we do see that students start to fall behind if you've not got this mental arithmetic. But when we do the intensive program, we get them back on track. They achieve and grow just like the rest.
01:32:16
Speaker 3: Of the students.
01:32:17
Speaker 20: And so we are really investing in this and making sure that our students have got mental arithmetic, including those multiplication facts.
01:32:25
Speaker 1: So the quick Smart program is that something that parents have to apply for or is that a teacher led thing where they'll identify students who maybe need a bit of extra help.
01:32:37
Speaker 7: Yes, it's often.
01:32:38
Speaker 20: It's often done as a withdraw, so students might take a little bit of time out of a class and just practice it, gets some extra practice through this program if they need it. It's not for all students, it's just for those who need it. Takes a bit of time getting this extra practice and then go back into the class because we know that investing in that in the school really helps the students. So it's not something that paras have to pay for or apply for. It's just something that our schools and find that they have got some students who are perhaps struggling with some of that mental methmetic can bring into the school and support our students.
01:33:17
Speaker 1: And is it done separate to regular classes or outside of school hours. Is it bit like tutoring or something different.
01:33:24
Speaker 20: Yeah, so he starts to do it during school hours. But that's the intervention, right for those who perhaps you know, have been in class and perhaps need a little bit more help. The main game is in our classrooms when mass is being taught clearly in the curriculum, and it builds from year two to year three to year four, we're more and more is expected of our students in terms of those multiplication facts. It's really clearly set out in the curriculum. So it's going on every day in our classrooms, particularly in years two, three or four.
01:33:57
Speaker 1: Okay, what advice do you have for parents out there like David if they are worried that their kids aren't getting the you know, aren't keeping up or don't have the skills or the learning that the parents think they should have.
01:34:14
Speaker 20: Well, look, I think you know this is going on in all of our schools. As I say, sometimes it is talking to the teachers and just saying I think the struggling with this with this a little bit. Sometimes it's about not making assumptions. So you know, this this idea around you know what used to go on. So some of these kind of chanting times tables and then perhaps expecting that in the classroom and then saying, oh, that's not happening anymore. They mustn't be teaching this actually seeing well what is going on? How are the children learning multiplication? So you know, perhaps asking a question before making an assumption. But of course there's lots. This is a great area for parents to help children with because it is a simple as just you know, like that example I gave you with throwing the ball you send in the garden, throwing the ball, doing sometimes tables, doing some other mental arithmetic. That's something that's really easy to do. And just adding a little bit of extra practice to make sure that our children, our students have got that that not just being able to answer a test and being asked what six sevens is and then working it out somehow and writing it on the page, but they've got that quick response and building up that speed. That's really important and parents can really help.
01:35:34
Speaker 1: Are you picking six times seven on purpose? Martin Westell? I'm just picturing all the kids in cars at the moment getting picked up from school, and you keep saying six to seven, and they're all sitting there with their arms in the air going six seven, six seven.
01:35:47
Speaker 20: You know what I wasn't, but I think you might have subliminally got into me.
01:35:53
Speaker 1: It's been going through my mind every time you mentioned it, so no doubt it is for so many other people listening.
01:36:00
Speaker 12: Well.
01:36:01
Speaker 1: But you mentioned the different ways there that you can practice times tables at home. Leith in Happy Valley has sent a text with a great tip, and I know this is one that my nephews have had over the years. For my son, I put the times tables on the back of the toilet door when he was young, so he learnt on the job. There you go, Although maybe that's not great. Is it encouraging kids to stay on the toilet a bit too long? Maybe it's encouraging them to get out of the loo quickly.
01:36:26
Speaker 17: I don't know.
01:36:27
Speaker 1: It depends who you are, so there are lots of different ways to I remember even you know, sitting at the dinner table and it would be how much of that milk bottle is there? Is it one third? Is it two thirds? Or you know, if you've got these this many Brussels sprouts on your plate, if you wanted three times that, how many would you have?
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Speaker 20: So little things like that Yeah, all of those things can help. All of those conversations are estimating that you were talking about there about you know, is it a third is at half? That's a really important skill as well well. And they're all everyday things that parents can do.
01:37:04
Speaker 1: What about people with the attitude of Chris on the text line, He's just sent me a text, Stacy, kids are lazy these days. They use their phones as their calculators. We often get this this you kids don't want to learn, or they're lazy, they're relying on technology too much. What do you say to that As the boss of the department which is teaching.
01:37:24
Speaker 20: Them, technology has got a place. Technology is really important, and we need to make sure that our students can use technology. But with things like this quick automatic mental arithmetic, it's really important for learning. And even when students get to know beyond school and in the workplace, even if they've got a little scribbel pads so that they can do a multiplication, or they they've got their phone, that might be one thing that that might be a thing that people do, but for the learning, it's really important that they get they have this automatic response that they've got these quick facts that come to mind. Because when they're thinking about more complex things later, like area where they have to multiply two numbers, I want them to be able to deal with the idea of area and the multiplication just to come really quickly, to stop and think about, well, what's the answer to that, But to have it just there in their heads. It's really important for their future learning. And so I want them to have it just for their learning, if not for in their lives. Because we know that literacy and numacy are really important for employment, getting a good job, of a job that pays well, but numeacy in particular, if you have extra numacy, if you can build on your numacy and get higher levels in numacy and mathematics, that can really help people to get higher value jobs and to kind of help to people to be the kind of person do the kind of job that they want to be. And we can trace that all the way back to year two, three and four, when they've got those autumn very quick multiplication facts, and then everything that's built on from there up to that point where they're getting a job the training for getting their next job. So I think it's fundamentally important for children to learn these things.
01:39:17
Speaker 1: Speaking of technology. This is a little bit off topic, but it's been in the news headlines this afternoon, and I think it would be remiss of me not to ask you, as the chief executive of the Education Department. There's a student, a former student in court today. He's been charged with Commonwealth charges, twenty of them, including twelve counts of using a carriage surface service. So this is in regards to allegedly sharing deep fake sexual images of a teenage girl and spreading them online in regards to digital safety. Are our kids in schools learning about this because this isn't something that had to be taught when I was in school. You know, we didn't have the the we didn't have deep fakes that that wasn't an issue then, but it clearly is now. Is that something the department is considering and looking at and teaching kids about with on all the online facilities available to them now.
01:40:09
Speaker 20: Yeah, So our students learn at different times during their schooling. They'll learn about appropriate and safe use of online and how important that is and the ways in which people might try and manipulate them online, and that's super important for child safety. So they learn that we also have our respectful relationships work and curriculum and you know in that about what's appropriate behaviors, and clearly this is incredibly inappropriate. And then the criminal behavior that we're talking about here, and so students learn about that. And then of course in public education in South Australia we have ed chats our AI that students that's available to high school students and one of the reasons that we introduced that we think it's really important for students to be able to have skills in using that technology. But also it's a safe space, so it won't allow students to do things like that within our AI. I want students using our internal AI rather than some of those tools that are out there that don't have the same kinds of controls.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well that's comforting to know. And yeah, I guess it's a different world these days, so we do need to be teaching kids about online safety as well as physical safety and times tables. It all comes into it absolutely all right, Martin Westwell, thanks for your time today. Thanks Stacey, the Chief Executive of the Education Department. There eight double two to three double O double OW is the number to call to have your say. Rob in Clearview has sent me a text Stacy. If I have five cupcakes and you want to how many do I have? The answer is five cupcakes. Thank you, Rob, well done, appreciate it. Height double two to three double O double O's the number to call and stay listening up. Next you might have an opportunity to win some fringe tickets.
01:42:14
Speaker 14: Five double A afternoons with Stacy Lee, twenty five minutes past three.
01:42:20
Speaker 1: Here on five double A taking your calls now, eight double two to three double oh. Do you have some thoughts on that interview with the chief executive of the Education Department saying kids are taught times tables in schools, just in a different way to the way they were previously taught, not sitting there memorizing their times tables. Wendy says, it sounds very complicated. I learned the old way. I'm eighty four, and I can recall it so quickly. All the times tables we were taught from a very early age. Also, the size of our classes were often never less than forty five or forty eight children. We all, without exception, knew our tables. I still use them, Wendy, that's a big class. I didn't realize that so it seems to be a trend to smaller and smaller classes. Thank you for that, justin here, absolute rubbish. My son is in year eight and barely knows his five times tables. It's taken us getting him external math tutoring for the last six months to get him up to about year six or seven level. Again with the six servants six servant, it's so bad. I can't help it now. For a kid with two full time working parents, why is it up to us to get them to practice? The bloody teachers should be doing ninety nine percent of the teaching, not me, No wonder why the majority of kids are being left behind. That's justin on the text line. Yeah, I mean, my daughter's not that old yet. I'm sure when she's in school I'll have very strong views. But I don't know if it is. Is it totally on teachers? Is education of kids these days one hundred percent on teachers or to Parents have to take some responsibility and play a role as well. It was always a bit equal in my house. We would do our lessons at school and then we'd come home and we'd sit at the dining table while we were doing our homework with either mum or dad, and yeah, life's busy. I know both parents are working these days. It's hard to keep up, it's hard to find the time. Is there some shared responsibility though? Or am I out of touch it?
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Speaker 17: Should?
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Speaker 1: It be just fully relyant on the schools? Eight double two to three double OW is the number to call, Rosie. Rosie enjoyed that interview, said the chief educator was refreshingly helpful and has given me more hope. Thank you for that, Rosie. All right, eight double two three double O double OW is the number to call now if you've got some thoughts on times tables, or if you'd like to head to Fringe. I'm giving both of them away. I've got a double pass to go and see gasher at Gluttony and a double pass to go and see murder. She didn't write, So get on the phone now. If you'd like to head down to Gluttony as part of the bring, you can get tickets online now at Gluttony dot net dot au. Fay is in Windsor Gardens and Fay you've got something to add about times tables?
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Speaker 17: Hello?
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Speaker 27: Yes, how are you Stacy?
01:45:12
Speaker 2: You keeping well?
01:45:13
Speaker 1: Doing well?
01:45:14
Speaker 11: How are you?
01:45:15
Speaker 8: Yeah?
01:45:15
Speaker 2: I'm good.
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Speaker 27: Thank you, dear kids learning their timetables or not learning their timetables as we're talking on this occasion. I'm seventy six. I learned from the old way and as many others, and you know, it's good to learn the timetables because you go to and when I went to school, I had to learn what it was to remember. And I think, you know, with all the technology, while it's good to have these sorts of things these days, but you know, at the end of the day, your mental arithmetic and which I hated, but I had to learn anyway. But I think you you know, if you were going to be working in a shop in future years, you know, the children of the day that are coming through now, it seems it's going to be very illiterate. I'm sorry to have to say this, but you know that's how I see it anyway. And I'm surprised that that schools are not even teaching the kids of today their times tables. And we should know about the other way of how they are teaching the kids their times tables.
01:46:26
Speaker 1: No, no, well, appreciate the call, faith, thank you, just to clarify those kids are learning their times tables, that's what the head of the education department said they're just not learning it in the same way. Maybe you and I were taught at school, it's a different way. So yes, thank you. Karen on the text line as well says I don't think they should get rid of times tables and it is up to teachers to teach and then it's up to the parents to help practice it. Thank you, Karen. Margaret is in Saint Mary's Hi.
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Speaker 8: Margaret, Oh, hi, say I only need to switch on the radio. Haven't heard much as the prior. But so I'm early seventeen and every morning when my dad was shaving in the bathroom, and my bedroom was right next door to the bathroom, I had to recite my Time's table while he was shaving every day. And as a parent who was fantastic that way. Admittedly he was a primary school teacher, but yeah, and also my children are early forty now, two children, and I bought Time's Tables tapes or so were cathlet tapes them with the Times tables in to music where that helped them. So I think there's a big responsibility on parents that they should do it. You can't expect parents, You can't expect teachers to do everything. And my two children became teachers. One isn't now and one is, and so I see the huge work. But teachers put in after ours. I didn't even see my daughter on the weekend because she was doing or the catching up, you know, with her school work. And she's only a part time teacher. So parents should have some responsibility teaching them lots of things, teaching them. Don't let us, don't do this, don't do that. People expect so much teachers these days, and if people don't respect the teachers, we will lose them to the system.
01:48:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make some great points there, Margaret. I know there's a lot of teachers who would feel exactly the same as that. Thank you for your call. Eight double two three double o double oh is the number. Time for the three thirty news headlines Now and then after that, you're going to hear from the CEO of Port Adelaide about the new development that's going to start in the Port Adelaide area. It's going to be called Alberton Square. Eight double two three, double O, double oh five double A afternoons with Stacy Lee, let's find out a little bit more about the development announced by the Port Adelaide Football Club. It's going to be called Alberton Square and over a number of years the club has been acquiring homes in the area, twenty six properties, I believe. Matthew Richardson is the CEO of the Port Adelaide Footy Club and joins you now, Good afternoon, Matthew Richardson, Thanks for your time.
01:49:43
Speaker 5: Good afternoon, Stacy, Thanks for having me on the program.
01:49:46
Speaker 1: So this is really exciting. When Koshi announced this on The Brecky Show with David Will this morning, there were so many questions that Dave and Will had and I think we all we all had following the announcement. This must be as I say. Years in the May, twenty six properties have been acquired.
01:50:03
Speaker 26: Yeah, that's right, it is.
01:50:04
Speaker 5: As you said. It's a really exciting project for the club. It's future thinking.
01:50:11
Speaker 26: Our board, going back four years had a strategy workshop where our first goal was to pay down our historical debt and that goal was to twenty twenty five.
01:50:22
Speaker 5: But we wanted to think beyond that and I think beyond debt reduction, and we did a lot of research looking at different sporting organizations around the world, and what we saw was that the clubs that were really the innovative, powerfully financial clubs had used, had moved, had diversified their business models. So sport revenue can can fluctuate based on the ups and downs of what happens on field. And what we saw was those innovative clubs around the world had used the real estate around their either stadiums or trainingies and created really unique precincts which are a multi use and capitalize on the facilities that are already in place. And so if you think about Albert and Oval, Port Adelaide's been here since eighteen eighty, It's been a really important part of the community. We've been developing it over the last five years. And we had an opportunity directly opposite the club because the club already owned the car park land, which was four thousand score square metals of that land. And really the idea was if over time we could acquire the properties through to Port Road and be able to open Albert and Oval through to Port Road, what could we do with that land That would one add value to the facilities and the community facilities and the high performance center at Albert and Oval. But also if you think the other way, what are the types of businesses and that would it would make sense to be connected to a high performance sports precinct. So that's really where the idea came from. As we moved along, it probably went a little bit or certainly went a bit quicker than we were expecting. And part of that was because as we started to investigate the I guess the scale of the opportunity more and more sense. So, yeah, here we are three years later. We've been able to acquire the property through to Port Road. There's two blocks of houses there that and now what we do now as we move into the next stage, which is really about the planning and consultation, which will take another sort of twelve or eighteen months as we start to investigate what's possible.
01:52:39
Speaker 3: On that land.
01:52:40
Speaker 1: So I see, you've got some concept designs that have been done and we've got them on our live stream now if anyone wants to jump on Facebook or YouTube to check them out. Is that the plan at this stage? How many stories high is it going to be or is that still subject to change?
01:52:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll be subject to a range of things. We now move into a planning, a planning process where we'll lodge a code amendment with planning essay the state government in late March early April, and that will be about rezoning that land in order to in order to develop the site. But given that it's a big site, it's twenty thousand square meters, it's connected to a high performance sports precinct. As I said before, it's got a main road frontage, and strategically it's a really significant location if you think about the regeneration of Port Adelaide, what's happening down Osborne with the Orchest development, So it opens up a whole range of possibilities and especially when you connect it. And that was really our vision, as we could have gone and done a proper development anywhere, but we were very strong on the fact that we've invested significantly at autt and Oval is a really vibrant high performance sport can Unity precinct. How do we expand that precinct and include you know, there's commercial space there, there'll be increased public realm parks, so it becomes a fantastic community facility. But also then there's the opportunity for residential and as you can see as some of those concept drawings, the residential on the height will be centralized along Port Road is what is proposed, which is consistent with the state government's thirty year future plan around you know, starting to utilize some of those major transport corridors to increase housing density.
01:54:39
Speaker 1: Right. Okay, and Koshi said this morning on The Brecky Show, that there'd be around three hundred apartments. How will that work? Are they going to be up for sale or will they be rentals?
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Speaker 9: Is?
01:54:53
Speaker 1: You know, are you going to be the landlord of these apartments?
01:54:57
Speaker 23: Well, I mean we will move.
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Speaker 5: That will be part of this next process. We're not going to be able to you know, we'll be looking for development partners to work with us on this project. Our aim is, you know, one of the aims of the project is to develop an ongoing revenue stream. So yes, rental income, whether that be from commercial rents or residential will be part of it. But given the scale of what might be possible on that side, that's not something We're going to need partners that we're going to do that with, and that will be part of a part of this next next process that we step into in the coming months.
01:55:35
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, just trying to get my head around it. Does that mean you're not sure yet if the apartments will be up for the residential side of things. Will they be up for sale or will they just be not just be but will they be rented out to people?
01:55:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think there'll be a mix of all of that statement you want once we get through that planning phase. I mean, ultimately what we want to do is we want to work with all the stakeholders, the community. There are commercial outcomes that the club wants to drive, and there are also residential outcomes. It's a big site, it's in a great location. It's connected to Albert and Oval, so expands the Albert and Oval full print, so create it's a very unique, a unique foot print and campus if you like. And all of those things you talk about can be will be included in that precinct.
01:56:23
Speaker 1: And you mentioned development partners. Do you do you have anyone who's going to build it yet?
01:56:30
Speaker 5: No, not yet, and that as I explained, Now we've moved into that next stage. There'll be consultation. We've got a member information night coming up on the sixteenth of March, and there'll be a community consultation information night on the twenty third of March. So that as we move into this next phase. You know, these are this is a big project. It will take a number of years and there's a whole lot of steps that we need to work through. But you know, what we've presented today to our members is you know, a vision for what that precinct could become, and you know it is something that you know, we're working with the AFL. The AFL are a really important partner is they're starting to work with other clubs. They've got an investment fund that's available for their loan funds. Really importantly to start to you know, clubs are starting to think about the business models where you know, traditionally our assets we've got great high performance facilities, but the problem with those facilities is one they don't generate revenue and two they actually depreciate in value over time because you know, the reality is probably in fifteen or twenty years, we knock it down and we build it again because it's not fit for purpose. Whereas the difference in what we're creating here at Abdam Square is it will be a commercial assets that generate revenue and therefore the value of those assets actually go up over time. So where we're starting to change the business model, and that's you know something we've been working closely with the AFL for a number of years and they're very supportive.
01:58:04
Speaker 1: I know, whenever there's a big development or a new apartment building going up, local residents always want to know about green spaces. Will you incorporate some parks and easily accessible green spaces for people?
01:58:17
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I think again one of the features of this development, there's already significant green space if you think about out and overall the reserve at the back and all of that will actually become linked up. So even in the new space, there'll be public realm, there'll be plaza areas. We're going to widen broad place soft poor roads so it becomes a real entrance. There'll be walkways and statues with the history of the club, so it becomes a real activated space. And as you'll hear us say, you know at Albert and Square, it's going to be a great place to live, work and play.
01:58:55
Speaker 1: You mentioned probably around twelve months for consultation. Do you have a timeline past that yet? Do you know when you'll be able to a projection for when you'll be able to start building.
01:59:06
Speaker 5: No, I mean we'll step into that that process is prescribed through state government and the state planning process, so we'll step into that process. We're hopeful that that planning phase will take you around about twelve months, and then in that time will also be starting to talk to potential partners and development partners around you know, how we progress and fund the project beyond beyond the planning phase.
01:59:33
Speaker 1: Now, can I lobby you, Matthew Richardson, CEO of Port Adelaide, for a name change, because I've got a great one.
01:59:41
Speaker 5: Oh yes, I've had a couple of suggestions today.
01:59:43
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Alverton Square. It's okay, I mean, yeah, it's all right. I think maybe a bit beige. I think we should call it Ginova Grove.
01:59:52
Speaker 5: Ginova Grove. Okay, Well, is Tim sitting behind you or on to your left shoulder? I think I can fear coming through. Well, let me just get I'll give you a little bit of historical context. I like Ginova Grove, but I'll give you some historical context around Alberton Square. So Alberton when it was master planned in eighteen seventy. Ironically, there were five squares in the district which were parks. There's only two of those squares remaining. So part of the inspiration behind alberd And Square is actually returning more green space and open space to the community which was Alberton was actually as a suburb and a district, was a master planned community back in the eighteen hundred. So that's where the nod to the history of the history of the area is part of the part of the working title of the name Gineva Grove. I like it. We'll feed that into the mix.
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Speaker 1: All right, great, thank you. He's embedded in the history as well, so yeah, it makes sense.
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Speaker 5: It ties in, well, maybe one of those statues down Brown Place, although we might need a little bit more bronze in some parts of Tim's anatomy.
02:01:00
Speaker 1: Leave that one alone and move on very quickly. Helen, on the text line, would like to know if they'll be aged care provided, she said, I'm sure supporters would enjoy spending their latter years close to the club.
02:01:11
Speaker 5: Look, I think this given the scale of the site and all of those opportunities are definitely possible.
02:01:18
Speaker 1: All right, and this is not a question from me as a port supporter. But will there be an apartment one nineteen? Will we avoid?
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Speaker 5: I think that one undreds will be a blank number in whichever apartment building we build.
02:01:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. I think that's a good idea, right, Matthew Richardson, thanks for your time this afternoon. Great, thank you, CEO CEO of the Port Adelaide Football Club. There, what do you think? What should we rename it? Eight double two three double O double oh? I like Jitivi Grove. I think that's a fun one.
02:01:51
Speaker 17: All right.
02:01:51
Speaker 1: This person on the text line knocking down twenty six houses in a housing crisis not a good look. I guess it kind of changes that argument when they'll be replaced with three hundred. So yeah, if we're talking purely numbers of houses available, you'd probably picked three hundred over twenty six, right now, wouldn't you? Eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to call to have your say? What do you think about this development? Do you like the name? Alberton Square? Take your calls.
02:02:20
Speaker 14: Five double A afternoons with Stacy Lee seven minutes to four here on five double A.
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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Jane in Clapham you have won the tickets to go and see Murder she didn't write at the Adelaide Fringe and Tony in Walker Heights. You're off to see gasher. Well done to you. Asking for your name suggestions this afternoon. What do you think they should call the new development in Port Adelaide. It's currently got the name Alberton Square, even just a street? What do you think we should name the streets inside the development? Brian is in Evanstone and has called in, Hello, Brian, how are you all right? Good? How are you now?
02:02:57
Speaker 23: All my years afo la there's only one names Ebert Gardens.
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Speaker 17: Oh.
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Speaker 1: I like that and it sounds green, it sounds lush, yeah, and it sounds just.
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Speaker 17: Perfect.
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Speaker 1: Love you, Brian, Thank you, see you. That's Brian in Evanston. I suggested Genova Grove and Timmy Genova joins me in the studio. What did you think of that?
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Speaker 22: I loved Richo's answer when he said, is he's sitting behind you?
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Speaker 15: It was almost he's threatening you.
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Speaker 13: You weren't, just for the record, wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't.
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Speaker 14: But it did make me laugh. It did make me laugh.
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Speaker 1: Look, Caesar said, call it Stacy's Street.
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Speaker 14: Oh wow, that's that sounds good.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very nice.
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Speaker 22: But the idea and the concept, and it's purely a concept at this stage, because you've got to now go to the planning stage. Yeah, so it's the old story, you've got the artist designs. Now it might not end up looking anything like that in the light, but it is a mixture of and we've seen I live down west of course, right near Alburn, but you drive up Port Road, Port Road's changing completely and what was a lot of single sort of storied businesses and the like are all being taken down and three to four story sort of buildings are being built along Port Road now. So this will just continue as it goes down Commercial Road towards the heart of the Port. This will just be built like that, as is what is happening all the way Port Road. So it's just going to be in sync with what's happening there, and then the other bits and pieces will actually make.
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Speaker 15: It a really good area.
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Speaker 22: Love the fact that rich I mentioned about the history of it back in the planning of Albert in eighteen seventy was we're going to have this big square squares and so here we are one hundred and fifty odd years later, we're actually going to put that together. So obviously Albert and Oval was created for the Port Adelaide football club, and now we've got going to have this where all these years latest yea, Yeah, I like the idea and me too. I think you made the great point there where yet twenty six houses acquired and if there's anywhere near three hundred apartments, well we've sort of more more than adequately assisted in some more housing options.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which you know, like the club keeps saying, especially in that area with the Orcus Submarines contract, they'll be needing housing around there.
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Speaker 14: Yeah. It's a good concept.
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Speaker 22: The beauty of it. It's about sustainability for footy clubs and for pored who have always sort of battled. When I heard Koshi this morning just saying, you know, one of the things he would love when he leaves that chair is to make sure we never go broke again. It's a great call because we've had many financial challenges to our history that you get a little bit sick and tired of, and I think this is going to be an exceptional way of having an ongoing income that you don't have to go and rattle a can for or you know, just go berserk because you lost five thousand members because you had a bad year.
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Speaker 1: So this is giving you.
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Speaker 22: A passive income and through some I think he said some rental, residential, some commercial and the like, and maybe some from sale. So that would be a great ongoing income that is required because you don't want to be reliant upon the artfoll or anybody else.
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Speaker 1: Again, No, I love the idea that if Port Adelaide's going to be renting out some of the apartments that yes, you know you'll have to, you'll get Coti or Matthew Richardson chasing you up for your rent. You'd be too scared to fall behind on your around.
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Speaker 22: We always employed MOUs and Rocco.
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Speaker 14: You never say no to that.
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Speaker 22: Big show tonight, they've got to where are they now? For Walcoat, it's a huge one. You may have heard the NFL coming to play a game for points in Australia. For first I'm forty nine versus La Rams, So we've got a forty nine ers legend on Steve Young who he's a Hall of Famer, you name it. He came just around just after Joe Montana, but they sort of did cross over, so I'm keen to find out what the relationship was because he sort of took his place as quarterback. So that'll be interesting. Ben Keys from the Adelaide Football Club about their season going ahead. His vice captain again, Dan Collis, is actually coming on. He's the guy behind the Final Siren Inside the AFL, which is a prime documentary that's coming out Friday night and that gets released and it's a bit light Drive to Survive and the other ones that they've done. I think it's called Box to Box that they do these docos and it's the insight behind the characters and the and it's all based pretty fresh late around about round fifteen onwards of the AFL. So back to that a couple of years ago they did something something, but this is more in the mode of drivers of both.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, So we're going to interview him about.
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Speaker 22: The product and gets released on Friday.
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Speaker 1: All happening sounds good, looking forward to it. A couple of very last minute ones. No Crow Grove says John. This is what we're naming Alberton Square, Power Circuit says Steve, Maritime News says, Mark, Power Park says Tom. I love it. Keep them coming. I'm sure Rowe and Timmy g would love to see your suggestions. And they're on after this news This news bulletin with Melaysia. I'll talk to you one o'clock tomorrow