FIVEAA Afternoons with Stacey Lee - 7 April 2026

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Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Stacey Lee.
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Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you and happy Tuesday. It's the seventh of April. I'm Stacy with you for afternoons through until four o'clock and we have a lot to talk about today, lots to discuss, including how fuel rationing could work if it's on the cards for Australia in the future. If the situation in Iran doesn't progress any further and it continues to descend and the straight of hor Moves doesn't open up, and our fuel supplies do start to drop, what could happen. How have fuel shortages and rations worked in the past and what could it look like into the future. We'll talk about that this afternoon. If you've got thoughts eight double two three double O double oh. We keep being assured by the government that there is enough fuel. It's not a supply issue. It's a demand and distribution issue. But at the moment it's not a supply issue. We're told there's enough fuel until the end of May. What about after that? So how could rations work? Eight double two three double O double OW is the number to call if you've got some thoughts. We're also talking about travel today with The team from phil Hoffman Travel Tasting Australia is coming up and this year they have a very special travel tour that you can do. It's a multiple day event. We'll talk about what that might look like. And if you've got a question, if you would like to book a holiday sometime soon, if you're thinking you there's somewhere you would like to go, if you'd like to do that European trip, but you're a little bit nervous about the international global situation, now's the time to get your question. In eight double two to three double O is the number to call. The team at phil Hoffman Travel always have the best answers for you. So I'm looking forward to that chat. And Donald Trump, he has written a social media post on truth social with swear words in it. I won't say them, some people are offended by them. The F word he called he called the people in around bastards and it follows this comment he made last year.
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Speaker 3: Now we have we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the they're doing.
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Speaker 2: So how do you feel about your leaders and swearing and where do swear words come from? How do we determine what is a swear word and what's a regular word, and how has the idea of swear words changed over time. I'm looking forward to that chat with Kate Burridge, she's a professor of linguistics at Monash University. Also, how do Australians and Americans differ on swear words? Because there are some words that are thrown around and said here willy nilly that they would be quite offended by in America and vice versa. So I'm looking forward to that chat with Kate this afternoon as well, and your thoughts too. How do you feel about world leaders and swearing? How would you feel if that was Australia's Prime minister, if Anthony Albanezi got out there and said the F word, all wrote it on social media. As I say, your thoughts are always welcome. Zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five is the number to text them through, or you can call me at any point this afternoon eight double two three double o double Oh and don't forget, it's Turkey Tuesday, so later on I'll be taking your calls to nominate a Turkey, whoever it might be. We've just had a long weekend, Easter weekend, probably spending some extra time with the family. I bet you everyone's got a Turkey nomination this week, so I'm looking forward to hearing those this afternoon. But now as we head into I guess the school holiday period after Easter, we are talking about different things in the school curriculum and after the after the state election. There's a new Education Minister, Lucy Hood. She was quoted in the paper today talking about her different priorities that she wants in her role as Education Minister. She wants to oversee well. April is also Financial Literacy Month, so I thought it was a good time to talk about this and how the Financial Basics Foundation are working with schools in Australia to try and educate kids. I don't know about you, but I don't think I got enough education on financial literacy. We did maths, we did English, we did you know science history? All of those are great, But did you leave school understanding a budget, knowing how it works, knowing the difference between your income, your ingoings and your outgoings. Do you think that kids these days have as much understanding about financial literacy as they need? And Union is a senior project manager at the Financial Basics Foundation and joins you. Now, good afternoon and hello Stacey, thank you so much for your time, my pleasure. So it's Financial Literacy Month and I'm guessing you're using you're using this month to try and get financial literacy on the agenda. What is the biggest issue for you and the team at Financial Basics Foundation.
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Speaker 4: The biggest well, there's a number of the Two important issues are the financial literacy rates for young people need a lot of improvement, particularly for girls. And the second issue is that unfortunately financial literacy education, while it does exist in many schools and classrooms, it doesn't in others. It's hidden miss because it's not a compulsory subject. It's it's you by some schools in a fantastic way to deliver financial literacy education with their own approach, but not it's hitt and myths across the country. And what we'd like to see is something from the federal government advocating that we get consistency across delivery in all Australian schools so that all young people have the opportunity to improve their financial literacy.
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Speaker 2: And how would it work. Would it be introduced at a certain age at a certain year level maybe, or would it be part of I guess the maths curriculum all throughout schooling, just interspersed with the different lessons you would learn in maths.
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Speaker 4: Generally, yes, well, it can be used in maths, it's not. There's no specific topics financial literacy and mathematics in.
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Speaker 5: The middle school.
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Speaker 4: But financial literacy is a great context for mathematics, as your listeners would know. When you learn things, if they have meaning for you, they're easier to remember. And for example, learning how to learning the formula to work out compound interest. If you understand the importance of compound interest and what it does, that way has more meaning for you. In economics and business, there are some financial literacy topics, but not every student studies that. So what we're seeing is a lot of schools using their financial social wellbeing personal wellbeing courses that run maybe one or two percents a week and delivering financial literacy education.
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Speaker 6: Within their.
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Speaker 2: Right Okay, and so is there a particular option that the Financial Basics Foundation is pushing for. Do you want it as a standalone topic?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 5: Not.
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Speaker 2: At this point.
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Speaker 4: The first stage is to just get it into school. Stacey and we need to give teachers the resources, which Financial Basics does for free support teachers, and something that comes from all levels of government, from the education authorities, that this education can be integrated within other subjects and delivered within the social and personal wellbeing subjects. We think that's that's a great way to go.
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Speaker 2: And is there a I know that your foundation has done different studies over the years. Is there a difference in the way kids learn about financial literacy? Do boys learn differently to girls? How does it work?
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Speaker 4: It's very interesting and yes, women and girls have lower financial literacy than males and boys.
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Speaker 2: Do you know why that is?
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Speaker 4: There's several reasons, but the two interesting ones. Well, the first one is logical because of variations in brain development. Girls often outperform boys in reading and writing, and boys often perform better in maths and abstract spatial tasks. And unfortunately, financial literacy education is often presented in a mathematical context, which disadvantages girls. And the other interesting thing that we found is the social and gender influences. Girls are often more predisposed to cooperative learning and they have a collective approach to finances where they consider others and might help out their friends, so they're probably not performing as well as they could. And there's lots of ways that we can approach this and hopefully improve outcome of.
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Speaker 2: The girls, right, And what are some of those ways?
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Speaker 4: Just offering different delivery models, which is what we do.
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Speaker 8: It's our resources.
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Speaker 4: We have a wide variety of digital online learning, print resources, short by animations, online courses, self paced courses, so there's a whole What we have to do is offer choice to teach us to use their students as appropriate.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's a really interesting point that you raise, because a couple months ago I spoke on air about driving past a bake sale in my suburb and I stopped and bought a couple items off the girls who are running the little bake sale. They were at the out the front of one of their homes, and they had spent all day the day before, you know, baking food with their mums. And when I asked them what they were raising money for or what they were trying to save up for, they were giving all the money to the Women's and Children's Hospital Foundation. They were learning in schools about making money and the hospital, and they wanted to do something to help and that's what they were doing with their money. And it happened in the same week that we caught up with my nephews and they've been collecting coke cans and bottles to you know, go and get collect the five cents. And I asked what they were saving up their money for, and they were saving up for a Nintendo Switch. And you know, that's totally fine, that's what you know, five year olds.
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Speaker 4: We can't say all boys are selfish, but.
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Speaker 2: Selfish, you know seven year old boys. I probably wanted a Nintendo Switch at that age as well, if there's nothing wrong with that. But it's just interesting that you say that girls tend to have a more cooperative approach to the money and the distribution of it. And that was in the same week. I did notice those two differences in you know, raising money and what you were doing with the money.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know that's a good thing. That's part of budgeting, giving, right, so yeah, saving spending giving.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, you know, my nephews are great kids and they give in other ways. But yes, it was just it was just an example that I noticed in the same week. I have a text here from someone, Seriously, do parents take responsibility for teaching their children anything anymore. We cannot keep cramming more and more into the school curriculum. What do you think about that? Take book.
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Speaker 4: Some parents provide excellent financial role modeling and discussion at home. Some families, I should say some for many reasons. Often they don't have a confidence to do this, and we actually provide resources for parents and again other stressed furelessness. Everything we do is free, doesn't cost anyone anything. So for parents, for example, we've got fact sheets with conversation starters and little projects financial projects they can do as a family. I think the problem is a lot of parents don't like talking to their kids about money. They're worried that it might stress them out. But the data shows it's good to have the conversations about money early and let kids involve them in making decisions about bud some you know something to budgeting or whatever where money should go.
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Speaker 8: So we would like to.
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Speaker 4: See more parents deliver some sort of financial education at home.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's harder these days than it used to be because of a lack of cash. I mean, it makes me sound old to say this, but back in my day, back it by the day you know, we'd get pocket money, you'd do your chores, you had the cash, it would go in the piggy bank. If I was saving up for something I knew how much I had to save, you'd count out each note or each coin. You'd hand it over to the shop assistant. You'd get your change, and you would work it that way. I feel like we need to bring back the cash for the kids.
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Speaker 4: You've made a good point there. When you see the cash leave your hand, you know it's going, whereas when you're tapping and going, it's not so visible. But and the other thing with the little kids too, is say can we get this? Can we get that?
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Speaker 1: Toad?
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Speaker 4: Don't have enough money?
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Speaker 8: Just use your card, just tap.
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Speaker 4: Well, the point is you can get great apps that go with your banking, and you can keep a telling of what you're spending. And we encourage students within our courses to adopt that sort of control over their budgets so that they're keeping their looking at what they're spending continuously and making sure that they stay within the limits that they set for themselves.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Great, And so for those listening who would like to give the kids in their life, whether it be children, or grandchildren or nieces and nephews some sort of education. You've mentioned that you've got courses. Where can they access those?
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Speaker 4: Okay, So the website's financial Basics dot org dot au and we actually have three levels of resources. So for teachers are fabulous teachers who are on their world deserved break at the moment, they have access to everything. For parents, we have the fact sheets that I was telling you about, also another of some animated videos and things, and they can do a cashed up boot camp with their kids, which is like a short online course that they can do over the holidays. And we've got one just published on buying your first car. For young people, we have catched up courses for them too, So one online course is about a range of financial topics of interest to young people who've left school, starting UNI, starting work, thinking of moving out of home and they just do that at their own pace and get exposed and some good financial interesting education.
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Speaker 2: Yeah great, Oh, it's definitely worth a chat, and it's got people thinking. We're getting lots of text messages and calls coming in in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: The health desk is always open if they have any questions when they're looking at the website and just as it costs nothing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is important, especially talking about financial literacy. So there you go, Thanks for your time. Ann really appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: My closest Stacie, thank you.
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Speaker 2: That's Anne Newnan from the Financial Basics Foundation. What do you think about this? Eight double two three double o double oh? Should there be more financial literacy education happening in schools or do you agree with this texter who thinks it should be more of a something that happens at home to parents need to pick up a bit of this slack. I'd love your thoughts. Eight double two three double o double O. Dave is in South Brighton, Hi.
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Speaker 12: Dave Stacy. Many years ago a group of mates we used to go camping a lot and we used to use the light spending too much money, so much so that the group became to it and groups that ever had everyone as a treasurers was president. I'm passed on that mentality to my three kids who are all now adults, and they're passing it on to my grandkids. They are all very money conscious of what they're how hard they work for it, and what they spend it on. And I'm not saying they don't spend it, but they're very conscious what they spend it on and are they getting the best few? And I think it starts that the education to beyond.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, And that's a really good point, Dave. It's not it's not saying don't spend any of your money. That's not financial literacy. It's just understanding where the money's come from and where it's going. And if you want to spend it on something, fine, but make sure you have enough of it to do so. And is that investment worth it?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Everyone has a little thing what they like to spend money on. Its Mine could be totally different from yours. And I've been against a motorbikes for example. Do you think what are you spending your money for that? Yeah, but you have to understand I've worked hard and i still work occasionally for honey, and I've passed on to my kids. And you know, one of my sons, it works really hard when he's working, and then he'll may take a month or two months off, but that's his choice, and his lifestyle is different than both. Yeah, so he lifts in a bus, so you know that's a saving for him of.
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Speaker 2: A Yes, just how absolutely well we're losing your phone line a little bit now, Dave. But yeah, appreciate the call, and it sounds like you've taught your kids the right lessons that they needed. Thank you for that. Eight double two three double o double oh is the number to call if you've got some thoughts, maybe about the way it is taught or not taught at school. Do you think it should be taught at school, or maybe there's a way you learned about financial literacy. I'd love to hear about it. Eight double two to three double o double ow. This person on the text line saying I've not heard everything here, but are you going to encourage boys as well? This sounds like special treatment for females. No, clearly, you only heard a very specific part of the conversation. This is financial literacy for all kids, and the only reference there to males and females was the different ways that boys and girls learn about financial literacy, which the Basics Foundation had done some research on. So no, this is about all kids learning financial literacy, how they should do it, where and in what ways. All right, it is time for the one thirty news headlines. Now, after that, we'll take some more calls and we'll tell you what's happening in the world of arts in South Australia.
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Speaker 13: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy.
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Speaker 2: Lee twenty eight minutes to two Here on five Double A. Still getting some text messages from you about financial literacy for kids in schools. This person says, my dad made me save half my paycheck as a teenager. I followed the same discipline as an adult. That is great if you can save up half your paycheck, learning some good lessons at an early age. There and this one. I left school in seventy two. We didn't learn any financial literacy at all. I learned it as I went through life, some good, some bad. Yeah, And that's the I guess that's the hard way of learning it, right, It's the hard way of learning about debt when you get into too much of it, or owing money when you overspend. And it's so different these days to how you can spend your money. I mean, there's all these buy now, pay later schemes which are really targeted at young people, and if you don't understand the real implication of using those and how it could impact your future, you're borrowing capacity if you're not paying it back on time, because, like I said that that idea of not having cash in your hand anymore, where you can see I've got a fifty dollar, I hand it over only get twenty dollars back. If you're not seeing that, you're just seeing monies on a computer screen or a phone screen. It really doesn't mean a whole lot when you don't have much. Yeah, we can keep talking about this throughout the afternoon. Keep your calls coming. Eight double two three double o double oh. But first.
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Speaker 13: Five double a's stake at the yards.
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Speaker 2: If I told you there was a new great I guess show or experience you could do in Adelaide and it involved going to a graveyard, how would you feel about that? It is a reality at the Golden Grove Cemetery where you can hear early settlers speaking from the grave. How did this idea come about? And what has been the response to injury? Joins you from the city of Tea Tree Gully to talk all about it? Hello, Dean, how are you hi?
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Speaker 5: Stacy?
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Speaker 7: Good?
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Speaker 14: Thank you?
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Speaker 4: How are you good?
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Speaker 15: Good?
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Speaker 7: So?
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Speaker 2: How did this idea come about of having people speak from the grave?
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Speaker 8: Look, it probably started with another job I was doing for counsel looking at the cemetery and finding out that the person that named Golden Grave was buried in the Golden Grove Cemetery, and then from that it sort of evolved into, well, there's probably other settlers that have a bit of a story to tell, and then from there we did the plarks and then it actually all stem back to something my daughter showed me on YouTube. There was an elderly couple who both passed away, and they had a QR code on their grave, and you flashed your phone on the grave and it showed the elderly couple waltzing together. And then I thought, well, instead of we can't recreate you know, some of these people, maybe we could get some local actors, the teacher players to do the voice over for these people and I'll say a monologue and almost assume their identity. But we aren't really digging people up from the grave to do it.
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Speaker 2: Good. I'm glad.
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Speaker 5: Have you.
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Speaker 2: What's the response been? Have you had some people when you tell them about it go, I don't know about that.
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Speaker 16: Look?
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Speaker 8: Overwhelmingly it's been extremely positive, and you know that sounds cool, you know, wouldn't mind coming out. We probably had one person who was a little bit hesitant and reserved with the idea, but they hadn't actually been out and seen it and experienced it. I did, and I know it's set up as a self guide too, but we thought we'd try it out with one of our men's groups. So City Teater Gali has a number of men's groups, one of those at Surry Down's Community Center, So we took the men out from there and we actually I conducted a tour around there and the feedback was awesome, so they loved it.
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Speaker 2: Oh good, Because I don't know if this makes me a little bit of a sicko to admit, Dean, but I am one of those people who enjoys walking through a cemetery and reading the headstones and reading a little bit about that person's life, but having a bit more information about it, I'd be even more interested in that.
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Speaker 8: Well, this was the thing. When you go through the cemetery, basically you'll get probably the Doda all born, the Doda La diet and their name and maybe the siblings. So some of them have some very interesting stories to tell. Some of them are a little bit controversial, and we build upon the facts that we were able to get from our volunteer group, the Teacher Ay and District Historical Society. They did all the fact checking for us. They put up the names of the set of that they thought had a good story to tell, and then we use a little bit of AI to work out what the monologues would be and some of the stories. Once you listen to her, you really believe that it's the person talking to you.
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Speaker 2: Huh. So what was the role of AI again? And you mentioned fact checking, So I assume all of the histories there that are described as accurate as they can be.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, one of my favorite stories because of the tragedy around it is and it's the only female that we've managed to get information on, is a young lady called love Day Kata. Now we know that Loveday was born in South Australia, We know that her father passed away when she was seven. We know that she got engaged and she was due to be married and she actually died on a wedding day. So that one we put all the facts into AI that we had and it came back with this story and it's talking about well, the monologue with her telling her own story is talking about things like I had my wedding dress laid out on my bed. When I was growing up, we had the smell of fresh bread in the house and things like that that you wouldn't think of, but when you hear it, you go, well, that's quite plausible.
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Speaker 6: That's probably what happened back then.
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Speaker 8: So it just took it to the next dimension, and then we checked all these I played them to our historical Society president, a lovely lady by the name of Carol Simmons, and she was blown away. So we thought, well, we're on to a winner here, and then put it in. But we have put a disclaimer before each of the audios just to make sure that people are aware that it's a dramatization. You haven't dug anyone up, and it's the local acting group doing it for us.
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Speaker 2: Surely you didn't need a disclaimer to say we haven't dug anyone up. These are actors.
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Speaker 11: Well you would think not.
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Speaker 8: But when I grop through, they were starting to listen to it, thinking that that sounds really plausible, that that could be the person. Well, that's how well the actors have done.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, that's a good reflection on the acting skills.
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Speaker 8: That is, and he get out and see the teacher players. I guess he's good advents for them because you're.
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Speaker 2: Like I say, sometimes you fill in the gaps when you only know a little bit about someone's life. If you are walking past some of the gravestones and you see, you know, father of father of six, husband to three.
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Speaker 8: There's a few stories on the matter. Through there's a couple of grizzly deaths. There's a few that lied on their applications to come to South Australia light about their age. So there's things like that that we know. But then the actual monologus just stretching a little bit further, and again people just need to go out and have a listen. And I'll say that the loveday Cardo I must have touched somebody because I went there with the particular Mends group and somebody had put a flower on her grave, so it must have touched them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. How cool is that? I love this idea. I think it's a great idea. So have you had much interest.
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Speaker 8: We've had a couple of school groups who have approached us recently about historical tours, and obviously there is that one and we're also just finishing off one in the Titulary Township where we're using an interactive map to go around to the twenty sites and each of those will have a voice over as well as some text. So we're trying to cater for people that you know, might might not want to stand there and read a plark or read some text a bit like me, you know, you prefer to watch the movie, read the book. They're trying to cater for that group. So there has been some interest, but we're hoping that you know, your listeners, some of those guys might want to go out and have a look and hopefully it's sort of snowballs from.
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Speaker 2: Me and so tell us again if there's someone listening, Yeah, this is this sounds like a fun thing to do, cool experience. I'd love to go and do it. How do they get on board?
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Speaker 8: It's really easy. The Goal Horos Cemetery is on the corner of Crouch Road and one Twee Hill Road. It's set up as a self guided tour. People can go there whenever they like pretty much. If you want to go there after dark, that's up to you. But it's the only way to be like and there's a big title right in the middle of the cemetery which explains the history of the cemetery itself, plus a bit of a map as to where these particular graves are. And then you just walk around with your fine at your own leisure. You scan your smartphone on the q arcade. It will bring up the audio and your hit play, so you can read the plark where you can listen to the audio.
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Speaker 17: What you can do both.
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Speaker 2: And tell us about you've told us about Love Day. Any other interesting stories I hear there was a story about a father of fifteen.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm just laughing. George Chapman. He was a runaway sailor and so he's escaped from his ship down at Port Adelaide, hid out in what is now the Fox and Ferkin for a few days, and then went on to marry the one of the girls, or one of the sisters on the neighboring farm, and fathered six children with her. She unfortunately passed away, so then he went on to marry her younger sister and ended up overall with fifteen father and fifteen children to the.
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Speaker 2: Two sisters, to the two sisters.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the family.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, isn't that what the royals used to do as well? I guess that's what happens. I've got a little bit of the audio here from a William Hancock. I'll just play a little bit of it.
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Speaker 18: Yep.
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Speaker 16: Ah, Well, now let me tell you a bit about my life. Name's William Hancock. Born in England in eighteen nineteen, though I think I spent more time here in South Australia than I ever did over there. I married Elizabeth Baker in eighteen forty three in the Holy Trinity Church in Adelaide. It was a fine day that and our first child came along the very next year, born at Dry Creek.
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Speaker 2: Oh see.
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Speaker 7: I like that.
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Speaker 2: It makes it sound interesting and interactive as well, because if you were to tell someone let's go to this cemetery and listen to the stories of some of the settlers buried there, and it was born in eighteen forty six William Hancock married Catherine Baker, you would switch off straight away. It immediately draws you in.
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Speaker 8: What does and the other thing, especially for residents out this side of town, some of the nines are quite synonymous with the area, so you know he's smart. Road we've got John Smart Hancock Rode with William Hancock Chilly t JG. Chilly Reserve, so a number of them are really prominent settlers at the time.
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Speaker 2: There you go. Sounds fascinating and Dean, like I said, I enjoy walking through cemetery, so this is one I might need to get on board with. Thank you for telling us all about.
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Speaker 8: It, no problem, thank you for having me see you.
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Speaker 2: That's Dean Jury from the City of t Tree Gully talking about their graveyard tours on at the moment. So if you'd like to get on board, you can head to the council website. It's all happening at the Golden Grove Cemetery. It's a quarter to two here on five double A. Up next, we'll tell you a little bit about the next performance by the State Theater Company. And this is inspired by a pretty significant political and legal player in the United States.
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Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
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Speaker 2: Eleven minutes to two here on five double A. Well, it's not usually the case that I would say an American judicial representative would become a household name, but I think most people who have a semi interest in American politics and the legal system would know the name Ruth Bata Ginsburg, and now parts of her life are being brought to life on stage with a new State theater performance happening very soon at the Dunston Playhouse as part of the Adelaide Festival Center. And Heather Mitchell plays Ruth Bada Ginsburg in RBG of Many one, and Heather joins you now.
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Speaker 7: Hello, Heather, oh hello, Thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker 2: No, thank you for your time. What did you first think when you were presented with the opportunity of playing Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Because I imagine she's an interesting character to play.
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Speaker 7: Look, I was so excited, I can't tell you, and I remained. So we've done Lee. I think we've done close to three hundred performances of this show and I still get a thrill doing it. Susie Miller, who wrote it, who's also written Prima Facie, hugely award winning show and Terialia, which are both in England at the moment. She and I were talking over during the COVID period, having a distance cup of tea, talking about Ruth Bade Ginsburg, who had just previously died, and Susie had very personal professional experience with Ruth in that she'd been a lawyer and was deeply inspired by Ruth. I didn't have any of her sort of connection, but I had read about Ruth and had watched the movie and the documentary and was very not only inspired by all her dissents and what she had done for the Court and for America and for democracy and the rule of law and all those things, but also her personal life really struck me. So I was really excited to see you proposed to riy f for me, and it was just proven to be the most wonderful piece of theater.
00:36:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Ruth herself, she was a real trailblazer. Is a word that's thrown around a lot, but I think in this situation in regards to Ruth Bada Ginsburg, it's appropriate, you know, the second woman to be appointed to the Supreme Court, she really kind of She didn't back down on the causes that she.
00:36:30
Speaker 7: Championed, absolutely not. And she also grew up in a time where she says in the show, she says, they had three strikes against me. I was a woman, I was a mother and Jewish, and at the time there were only nine women accepted into Harvard in a cohort of five hundred, so she had to really fine hard because many of the women who were accepted into law dropped out one after the other before they finished their courses due to motherhood and parenting, and couldn't couldn't sustain it.
00:37:01
Speaker 19: So she just.
00:37:02
Speaker 7: Stayed in there and her whole life, her whole professional life, which she was deeply committed to not only rights for women, but dignity for all people, and she approached everything with an incredible humanity and collegiality, just bought tirelessly for the rights of minority groups and always with the deepest respect for the law and for the justice system and the separation between Congress and the judiciary, which when now witnessing a very different story. And also democracy is also leaven. The word democracy at the moment has many different conversations and different feelings, so it's I don't feel the pieces at all, like looking back at anything. It feels more current, and it's sort of important at the moment to hear what Ruth. You know, what she was doing and what her life was about.
00:38:05
Speaker 2: And so tell us about the play itself. For the performance itself, you've had a sold out Australian tour. We're grateful it's coming to Adelaide. What can people expect when they come along and see it?
00:38:19
Speaker 9: Oh?
00:38:19
Speaker 20: It.
00:38:19
Speaker 7: Firstly, I'm so thrilled to be coming to Adelaide because I started my career actually as an actor when I left drama school in Adelaide back in the days of the Lighthouse Theater Company with Neil Armfield then and so you know, back in nineteen eighty. So I just love that I'm coming there. So thank you for that, all your Adelaide people. So the play is a one person show. I play at least about thirty three different characters that play not only Ruth from the age of thirteen through to her mid to late eighties, but also the three of the presidents, Trump, Obama, and Clinton. And it's a very beautiful, simple set with incredible lighting, and it's very evocative, and as I said, it sort of covers not only her rise through into the judicial system and what she achieved in that, but very much about her personal life and her extraordinary it's a love story as well, really her relationship with her husband, and also about how art she had great passion for opera, and it really also taps in quite deeply to her belief that art form can transcend thingers in a way that other things can't. So it's an extremely it's very accessible piece. There's a lot of humor in it. But I think one thing that people people from the age of even have had ten year olds coming right through. And I feel that the word is that it's extremely accessible. There's nothing about it where's get scratching and hsing. I don't understand the law, so I don't understand that. It's very entertaining as much as very informative about her life. Yea is an incredible writer.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, because I was thinking, you know, I'm interested in American politics and the judicial system and how their court process is a different to ours, but not everyone is. So do you have to sort of have an interest?
00:40:21
Speaker 7: You don't need to know anything about the digital system. You don't need to know That's where Susie has been so extraordinary, and also Priscilla Jack when his director has done the most wonderful job. No, you don't have to understand anything. It's very it's a very human story. It's a really story about a woman, a woman getting through life, dealing with her parents, dealing. It's dealing with all the things people do with every day, really, family, friends, cohorts, juggling systems, working out what you want out of life? How do you achieve that? How do you work in the broad a sphere? How do you get on with people you don't have the same belief systems, you know, But there's a lot of humor and so yeah, look, we've had an amazing some who's now fourth year in doing the presenting the show, of doing the show, and many people, to my great joy, have come three and four, sometimes five times.
00:41:18
Speaker 21: For the show.
00:41:19
Speaker 9: Oh wow.
00:41:20
Speaker 7: They have found it, particularly at this time of our life, and what's going on in the world gives them hope. They feel hopeful when they see the show. So that's a great feeling as an actor to be involved in that as well.
00:41:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can imagine that would be great. And how on earth do you pull off thirty different characters? How do you go from being Ruth Bader Ginsburg to being Donald Trump and Barack Obama and Clinton? How does that happen?
00:41:49
Speaker 7: Well, it's the fun of it, really, I mean I do it simply through vocal changes and usually just one or two gestures I've got a gesture for the different characters. One beautiful a number of scenes where she's having lunch with Obama, so it's seated scenes where I'm sitting there talking to him, but I can see him. And same with Clinton, same with Trump. And but it's been really as an actor, really fulfilling and satisfying because you really have to hone down and work out what is it about that person, what's an what's a vocal element? So we're not mimicking them. I'm not trying to mimic them or parody of them so much, just get an essence of them and say, well, what is Clinton like? What did he what's the characteristic? What are some of his characteristic So it's leaning because there are no costume changes in doing these characters. And some of the characters are literally only a line or two lines, and others are longer. But it's as an actor that's just so much fun. And Yeah, and when you feel the audience recognizing those people, that's yeah, it's really great fun.
00:42:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a whole heap of fun. I'm very intrigued even just here hearing that how you go from from accent to accent and Yeah, the I guess the inflections and just really honing in on on how they would sound. So yeah, I'm intrigued. There you go. It sounds like a must see. Heather, thank you.
00:43:14
Speaker 7: So much for telling us a little hope people will come, because it's I do feel it's a I hate say it's an important piece because that sounds boring and dry, but I do think it's, you know, where the world is at the moment. It's an inspirational and a great reminder of the things that some people, majority of us feel hold very closely.
00:43:36
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I think we all need a little bit of inspiration and, like you said, a bit of hope at the moment. Yeah, bit of humor to check that in as well. Oh, thanks so much, Heather.
00:43:46
Speaker 7: I appreciate you so so much. I look forward to it. Thank you very much, See you bye bye.
00:43:52
Speaker 2: That's Heather Mitchell and she plays all thirty characters in RBG of Many One as part of the State Theater Company's new performance, which is on from the tenth of April, so in a few days time, until the second of May at the Dunston Playhouse. Check out the State Theater Company website for more information. On tickets. All right, it's two o'clock now, time for the news after that. The government keeps assuring Australians that we have enough fuel. Supply is not the issue, it's demand and distribution. But every person I spoke to over the Easter long weekend was not convinced, and almost everyone was predicting that we would have some form of fuel rationing in the future. So if we do get to that point, how would it work. We'll take a look at some of the options.
00:44:44
Speaker 1: Five A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
00:44:50
Speaker 2: And a very big good afternoon to you. Welcome to the second hour of the afternoon's program. We're talking travel in around half an hour. So if you've got a travel question for the team at Phil Hoffman Travel. If you have a holiday coming up and you're wondering if it should go ahead, what is the situation in the Middle East at the moment, or maybe you're planning a holiday in the future, or you were thinking of and you've got a question about where you'd like to go or how you'd like to get there. Now's the time to get it. In eight double two to three double ow is the number to Caul. We'll have Darien Foot here from Phil Hoffman Travel, and then we'll talk to the team at Grand Pacific Tours as well and tell you what's happening with them at the moment. But first we've been hearing a lot about what's happening in Iran, of course, and the impact that having right here at home. I think the most severe impact where all feeling is the cost of petrol. And Chris Bowen, the Energy Minister, was talking about the current fuel stocks right around the country. He held a press conference this morning with the Prime Minister, Anthony Albanezi. Here is what Chris Bowen had to say.
00:46:04
Speaker 10: Well, a lot of Australians worked very hard over the easter break to make sure that our fuel was flowing to the regions and to service stations. And despite the fact that demand for petrol and diesel was thirty percent higher this easter than last easter, we continue to see each day the service station outages fall. During the weekend, I held daily press conferences to update on the service station numbers and happy to do so again this morning. In New South Wales we have one hundred and twenty five service stations without diesel. That's five percent of service stations. That's down seventeen on yesterday. Thirty four with no fuel that's down five on yesterday. Victoria we have forty without diesel. That's down eleven, so that's two percent of Victorian service stations. Twenty nine with no unleaded petrol in Queensland thirty four without diesel that's also two percent, and thirty without unleaded petrol. South Australia with no diesel, five with no unloaded petrol, Western Australia twenty without diesel, with thirty two without unloaded petrol, Tasmania seven without diesel, six with no unloaded petrol, Northern Territory four each no diesel, no unleaded and Act four with no diesel and one without unloaded petrol. That's a total of two hundred and forty one service stations without diesel across Australia today. That's three percent of our service stations. Also on Saturday, as I do each Saturday, i updated the Australian people and how much fuel we have on hand. But just to remind, we're seeing those levels stay pretty static, which tells me that the fuel is going out the door at a very high rate to the regions in particular as it needs to, but also coming in the door. So we have thirty nine days worth the petrol that's one point seven billion leaders, thirty days worth of jet fuel that's eight hundred and forty seven million letters, and twenty nine days worth of diesel that's two point six million letters.
00:47:55
Speaker 2: So there you go, thirty nine days of petrol, thirty days of jet fuel and t nine days of diesel. The government has been at pains to I guess make everyone feel a little bit more confident that we don't have a supply issue in Australia of petrol. Yet despite that, everyone I spoke to over the weeknd friends, families, people at servos filling up, and every time petrel came up, almost everyone I spoke to was convinced that at some point we will head into a period of fuel rationing. So I thought, let's talk about it. Even though the government's saying we're not there and there's no need to consider it. Why, how rather, how could it look if we did get to a point of needing fuel rationing? So let's talk to Trent Nikolick about it. He is the editor at Wheels Media. They write online articles, and I saw one about this this morning, High Trent. Thanks for your time.
00:48:56
Speaker 18: Hey, Stacy, pleasure to.
00:48:57
Speaker 11: Be with you.
00:48:58
Speaker 2: So how has fuel Russian being worked in the past in Australia.
00:49:03
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, I think the easiest way of describing it, and a lot of your listeners will remember this. I know I've spoken to my parents about it. The last time it happened to any great note was in the nineteen seventies, and the difference was back then was that registration and the number of cars on the road was a hell of a lot simpler than it is now. So back in the day in the seventies, if you had a car that had the regio plate ABC one, two three, effectively, because your registration ended in an odd number, you could go and fill up on the days that the government mandated were the odd days for you to fill up, so you could do it, whereas if your registration number ended in two, four six, you would go on the even days. The problem is we've got so many registration plates around Australia now that end in letters or custom plates, all sorts of weird things that we never had back then, that it would be more likely now, even though as you said, the government really is reluctant to give us any information on it. That it would be based on a certain amount of fuel that you're able to purchase at a given time.
00:50:05
Speaker 2: Right, so there would be a limit you could you could only do forty liters at a time or fifty dollars at a time or something like that.
00:50:13
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right, That's absolutely right. And the thing is, I've spoken to a number of people about this, as you have. And the first thing that the average Ossie said to me when this was first murdered, because I think the original mention was forty dollars, and the average OZSI said to me, at two bucks something a leeger, what's that going to get you? Sixteen leaders a petrol? So I'm going to get you very fuss.
00:50:33
Speaker 2: He did to go back every week.
00:50:34
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know, exactly right. So I think in that sense it would probably have to be somewhere between fifty and one hundred bucks, or maybe forty to fifty liters. I think you said forty leaders. Forty to fifty leaders would make sense. I mean, the average car on the road's got a fuel tank that's probably now nowadays broadly between fifty and seventy five or eighty leaders, So if you gave people forty to fifty leads, that'd be nice.
00:50:57
Speaker 2: Well, especially with the increase in the number of life cars on the roads. I mean every second car is an SUV, so you would need a bigger amount to fill them up or at least get to a point where they don't need to fill up in a few days time.
00:51:09
Speaker 14: Again, no, absolutely, And look, I think the message Stacey, we've reported this at whichcar dot com you, as you said, is that Australians are not being stupid about this. You know, I'm not seeing people and speaking to people who are out there just going I'm going to drive as far as I can just to use as much fuel as I can. Ozzies are being pretty conservative about it, and they're also trying to use as little fuel as they can, so they're following the messaging. And I mean over the easter break, as you said, you stopped in at service station, so did I. There isn't one that I saw in the Sydney metropolitan area where I am that didn't at least have a few pumps that weren't working. They weren't entirely out of fuel, but they didn't have at least have a few pumps that weren't working all of them. So there is a shortage of some kind. There's absolutely no doubt about that. But I didn't see Australians, you know, broadly, just being stupid and trying to use as much fuel as they can. I think a lot canceled their een to holiday plans. I think those that couldn't cancel or we're going to lose a lot of money still did it in the most efficient way they could. But yeah, you're absolutely right. We tend to drive a lot of bigger vehicles that don't necessarily bigger vehicle doesn't necessarily mean it's consuming more fuel, but it's a bigger vehicle with a bigger tank that you've got to get around.
00:52:17
Speaker 2: M well Shane on the text line says, I just filled up my diesel work you one hundred and eighty bucks. Rations wouldn't last me.
00:52:25
Speaker 14: Two days, not at all. And this is the thing, This is a thing too a lot of people. It's funny, like the conversation is always about us getting around, getting to and from work, you know, all those sorts of things. That's not really the concern as much as the trade is. The trucking, the transport, the delivery industries, all the service industries. They're the ones that really need to be able to be mobile.
00:52:47
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this, you know, reading online about no drive days and work from home days and different options that could be out there in the UK. I think at one point they did coop on, so you know, there's different ways of doing the fuel rationing. And it reminded me of COVID times, the idea of work from home and no drive days. I remember being a journalist at the time and going to those COVID presses every day and there was no one on the road. It was you know, nurses, police officers and journals. I felt like I probably shouldn't have been.
00:53:22
Speaker 13: On the road compared to exactly right.
00:53:25
Speaker 2: But in this situation, it's not a health emergency, so there's no health reason why the work. Like you mentioned that the trades work, the building worker, particularly when we're in a housing crisis, when when those industries shouldn't still be operating. Mining industries for example, all of these jobs can and should still be going ahead, so there would be more people on the road than in COVID.
00:53:48
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, and we need to keep those industries moving as much as we can. That's absolutely right, And I think you're right. They probably have to set something up like a like an app based system maybe where you put your registration in and you were allowed to put x amount in per week or something, because otherwise we'd have people driving at ten different stations to fill up a tank.
00:54:07
Speaker 11: Maybe.
00:54:07
Speaker 14: So yeah, they're going to have to manage it in some way, shape or form. But you're absolutely right. Essential services need to be out there moving around.
00:54:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well Barbara raises that point. What stops you filling up at three petrol stations on the same day, So.
00:54:20
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:54:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and governments don't tell you know, history would show us governments don't do terribly well when it comes to technology. If they've got to develop an app, it would take a while, it'd probably be useless, and it would cost three billion dollars.
00:54:34
Speaker 15: Yeah.
00:54:36
Speaker 2: True, Sorry, I have a sinny So do you know, you know, how seriously should we take this idea right now? Like I said, the government's telling us it's not a supply issue. We have enough fuel. Well, petrol thirty nine days, diesel twenty nine days. Sounds okay, but still twenty nine days doesn't sit super well with me.
00:55:01
Speaker 14: For diesel, No, well not when they told us that when they closed six of the eight refineries that we had, we'd have a ninety days and we've never had anywhere near it. So yeah, I think that that's absolutely something to consider, very much so, but I think, look, I don't think we're in a situation where we need to be thinking about rationing right now, but it'll certainly be something that. Look, you'd like to think the government's at least starting to think about what it would look like if it had to happen. But yeah, I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, purely because six twelve, eighteen months ago, broadly we had about the same amount of fuel in storage, so we're not really any worse off than we were before the war started in that sense. But that doesn't attract from the fact that thirty odd days is just manifestly inadequate for a country as remote as Australia.
00:55:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's true. If we still only had thirty days of supply six months a year ago, we're not worse off. But the difference is that with the straight of holl moves the way it is, and you know, with Donald Trump tweeting swear words to Iran every second day, it's such a volatile time right now. You never know when more fuel could be cut off.
00:56:11
Speaker 14: Absolutely, yes, spot on. And that's the thing. I think that's why we need we need to just be sensible about it, but the government needs to be planning for it as well.
00:56:19
Speaker 2: And then what about how would they differentiate between different engine types? And you know we know that.
00:56:26
Speaker 14: Yeah, see that's the difficulty, right, Like, how broadly speaking, unless you know what you're looking at, you don't know whether you're looking at a plug in hybrid or a petrol car, right and if a plug in hybrid these days, it can do up to one hundred and twenty kilometers and on fuel electric before it switches over to fuel, So you don't really know that you're looking at a plug in hybrid. So if I'm driving my plug in hybrid around on electric power, you wouldn't want to think you'd get pulled over by a policeman for driving when you shouldn't be, Which is why I think they're not going to penalize people for driving. I think they'll just have to come up with a way of managing who gets fuel and when.
00:57:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad they're the ones having to work that out because it sounds like a nightmare to.
00:57:04
Speaker 15: Try and do it.
00:57:06
Speaker 9: Absolutely well.
00:57:07
Speaker 2: Thanks Trent, really interesting conversation this afternoon. Appreciate your time, no problem, Thank you so much. That's Trent Nikolick, editor of Wheels Media. Eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to call to have your say, how should or would fuel rationing work? In your mind? Would it work for you? Could you just fill up a certain amount if they said to you it's forty leaders, you can only fill up once a week or forty leaders at a time, How would it work for you? Eight double two to three double O double OW is the number to call, and we'll take some calls next.
00:57:40
Speaker 13: Five double A afternoons with Stacy Lee.
00:57:45
Speaker 2: And we're talking about the prospect of petrol rationing into the future. Taking your calls on eight double two to three double O double oh. Fay is in Windsor Gardens.
00:57:56
Speaker 20: Hi, fae your home? Hi, Stacy?
00:57:58
Speaker 2: How are you going good? How are you?
00:58:01
Speaker 20: That's the way you know, I'm fine. Thanks, I have a suggestion and it's good to have the odds and evens like, but I think they could take it a step further. If your car like get like different colors. If you have a dark colored car, you can go on one day. If you or whatever have a dark colored car, go on Monday, and if you have a light colored car, go on another day.
00:58:31
Speaker 2: Where would red fit in, fae, I've always wondered, this is red a dark or a light color?
00:58:37
Speaker 20: Sorry?
00:58:38
Speaker 2: Where would red fit in? Would you go on dark days or light days?
00:58:41
Speaker 16: Well?
00:58:42
Speaker 20: I mean I don't well myself, I've never been able to drive a car because of having a vision impairment, which I've had for a lifetime. But where where I go?
00:58:54
Speaker 14: No?
00:58:55
Speaker 2: No, that was just no, no, no, that was just a question I had. Not important. But yeah, it's an interesting point about the way that they would divide it up odds and evens, lights and darks. It's all up in the air at the moment, isn't it.
00:59:10
Speaker 20: Yes, it is. But I thought that might help because I just quickly say, without notice to the people from the South Australian Electoral Commission, I would like to think that your people very much because South Australia's blind and vision impaired people were granted telephone assisted voting at the recent state election, and my experience of it was that I found it very helpful and it was just wonderful to be able to have someone to help you, to be able to fill things out at the other end and not to have to fill out such confusing paperwork. And I understand from a friend of mine that we may well be having this method also for the council elections coming up whenever. That's whenever that will be, because I know you're running against time and you've got something.
01:00:09
Speaker 2: Thank you.
01:00:10
Speaker 20: Thank you for going out lunch anyway, so.
01:00:12
Speaker 7: Thanks for that.
01:00:13
Speaker 2: Enjoy lunch, and thank you for the feedback. Really appreciate it. That's Fay in Windsor Gardens. Let's go to T Tree Gully now.
01:00:20
Speaker 19: Hello Glenn, Hi, Hi, Stacey color pusher. The last time petro rationing was on back in the day, I just to work for Safeold and we got tasked a few times to service stations where the patrons who was putting petro in on the even day. We're having a punch up with the person who was trying to get petrol because he had a NodD number number plate and they were getting rather nastery about it. And when we had the alphabet number plates, which was the first of the personalized number plates, and it was all alphabet, the last letter if it was odd or even within the alphabet. Ah, what they.
01:01:02
Speaker 18: Have got fuel?
01:01:04
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, And you know what I was about to say. I wonder how it would work, because you wouldn't have the resources to put police officers at every petrol station. You would be running on goodwill. And I dare to say it, but I imagine there was more goodwill from the community pre COVID and in the seventies and the last time we had rationing than there is now. I imagine people would get a little bit impatient.
01:01:29
Speaker 19: Now no one has time to do anything. And then you have a look at most most family. Most times there's the two partners, both of them are working, kids are in ash, but one of them picks them up before five point thirty when Osh closers. And then you've got your necessary services. Like myself being a gardener. You know, we get a lot more work because mom and dad or the two parents or the two partners are working. The last thing I want to do on the weekend is cut their lawn, especially if they've and a half days or whatever. Yeah, so that's why business is by myself, the lawn cutters and gardeners and so forth.
01:02:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm glad to hear it. I'm glad you're busy, and let's hope we don't get to this point of rationing. Glenn, thanks for the call.
01:02:16
Speaker 19: I hope so too happy this weekend.
01:02:17
Speaker 2: Thank you and you see you. That's Glenn in t Tree Gully. Eight double two three, double O, double oh is the number to call and after these news headlines you can use it for travel talk if you've got a question about a holiday you are looking at doing into the future, or maybe you've got an idea. You'd want to know what the situation is with flights with the Middle East at the moment. Eight double two three double.
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Speaker 2: Twenty eight minutes to three here on five double A and Morgan Pumper is at the Bureau of Meteorology. Good afternoon to you, Morgan, Hey Stacy, what can we expect over the next couple days.
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Speaker 15: Well, there's us down to feel the cooler temperatures now, so from today we did get to the twenty one point three eighteen and a half out the door at the moment, and there is a little bit of southwesterly airflow, so we do have a couple of frontal systems as we get towards the end of the work weeken into the start of the weekend, because we get that progression of a couple of frontal systems being able to draw up the southerly air, we'll feel cooler compared to at the moment. With just a little bit of cool air before we see a return of some northeasterly airflow into tomorrow, continuing into the Thursday with the northerly and northwesterly as well. So for the upcoming days, I mean, still just around those load a mid twenties for our temperatures, still a little bit of showers before as we head towards the weekend, some cooler temperatures with that southerly airflow.
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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for the update, Morgan, appreciate it. That's Morgan Pumper at the Bureau of Meteorology.
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Speaker 9: Hello, Dariy Aften, his stacy afternoon.
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Speaker 2: All how are you very good?
01:04:22
Speaker 9: Thank you refreshed after a love easter?
01:04:24
Speaker 1: Yeah?
01:04:24
Speaker 2: Did you have a good easter?
01:04:25
Speaker 9: It was lovely, He's perfect.
01:04:26
Speaker 2: Did you get away?
01:04:27
Speaker 9: I know, I just say locally, played a bit of golf, went to the Brossa, you know, just caught up with some friends. It was just nice. Have four days bit of gardening a course as well. So it's a bit of a house sweat to be done, but overall was a good time to sort of relax.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good good. We went down to al Dinger. I have family members who have a house there. Beautiful and it was the quietest I'd seen it in a long long time. It reminded me of COVID times.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Usually, you know, especially on the beach, that the cars line up, but there wasn't really much of that going on. The weather on Sunday wasn't great or was it Saturday or Sunday Sunday?
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Speaker 9: I think it was.
01:05:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's understandable. But there were a couple of days over the long weekend that it was sunny and there was just going around, which is a shame. All right. If you've got a question for Darien eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to call. We have one on the text line as well, Darien on zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. That's just come in from John. He says, can you please ask if my flight that's paid for through Emirates in late May to go to Dubai then Paris will still go ahead directly or not? And if I was to change airline, how much extra will I.
01:05:34
Speaker 9: Cos it's at the moment it's no guarantees. With May. What Emorates are doing for April is that Adelaide flight has been confirmed is canceled for April. It'll be be rerouted through Melbourne, Sydney, etc. At Emirates cost. Whether it be an economy or business class depends on what class your purchase, so there is a chance it may potentially Adelaide may may not be traveling in May, so if that does happen, then there'll be an option of rerouted through the Eastern cities even potentially Perth as well. If you're wanting to switch air lines and change completely to a quantus or single pore air lines. You would really want to get onto that now. The pricing is obviously due to availability has certainly spiked and he can sometimes struggle to find a seat. So but if you do do that now, you will have a penalty in canceling your emirates fight right now. But if you do wait, you know you may get that potentially what we've found as people have been buying a Singapore or a Corners ticket having two tickets held, not giving up on emorates at this stage, and there might be a nominal fee to cancel single pre outlines, call it four hundred dollars, so you know you've got a backup, You've got insurance policy for four hundred dollars. And then if Emrits does operate out of Adelaide, or you're happy with the flights that are offering via Melbourne or Sydney, then you can awase cancel that open the second option. Know that you're going to get back majority of what you've paid out of pocket X amount of dollars, but at least you're sort of covering your basis. That's been very popular starts that we've we've been using over the last couple of a couple of weeks with our Zach Zach question. We don't have a crystal ball. We don't know. We'd hope they're finding direct out of Adelaide. We've got no word on that just right now. I hope. I would imagine we know in a couple of weeks, I'd.
01:07:15
Speaker 2: Say, and Darien, I don't know if this is a silly question, but what's the difference between in the route for an Emirates flight from Adelaide than Sydney or Melbourne? Why would they cancel the one out of Adelaide to the one out.
01:07:26
Speaker 9: Of Sydney or alb It just comes down to I think of biddy staffing numbers, moving moving people. Adelaide as we know, we've always been a bit of the poor relation when it comes to two airlines. We've got some good airlines find direct into Lade or have had direct flights into Adelaide. Just it just comes down to that. I think it comes down a valibility of aircrafts and being moved around the world. So that's what I believe it is. I don't have had that on authority, but it just we sort of there's flights out of Perth, you know, Melbourne, Sydney, those kind of I guess with the population is et cetera. Is my gut feel on it. And they'll obviously look at bringing back into Adelaide when they feel that they can sort of commercially do that and I guess maximize their return and investment as well.
01:08:06
Speaker 2: So that makes more sense here. I was thinking, Oh, the Adelaide flight must go directly over the Middle East.
01:08:12
Speaker 9: And it's just a commercial, commercial I guess policy that Obviously they've been out of the air for a while. They're just restarting, I guess, and they put the priorities into their trunk routes. So the other routes around the world that wouldn't be flying yet that have been in the past, we're operating with Emirates and Qatar. It would just come down to those sort of reasons. Basically, Yeah, moving mass numbers as quickly as possible sort of thing.
01:08:36
Speaker 2: So, yeah, are you finding a lot of people coming in and looking at trips into the future next year, you know, start of twenty seven. Even I've been talking to Peter fair bit about people already thinking about twenty seven travel and just not wanting to book on one of the Middle Eastern carriers for the uncertainty right.
01:08:55
Speaker 9: Now one hundred percent. Yeah, you know we will find that and there are very good viable options out there to fly with mentioned Singapore, Malaysian Quantas, VYA, Japan via very good airlines around flying via China as well, So there's lots of choice out there. And I think while there's a bit of uncertainty in the world, and you know that's obviously we know that is happening right now, if you can avoid it, why not And you know, before you know, it's one of those things that we'll do, it'll come back, and we know that the people will put the confidence once the confidence is there for a period of time. But right now, when you're planning, I guess once in lifetime, we're a wonderful experience. Do you want to sort of do it with as much certainly as you possibly can and come and talk to us about how you can do that. And that's the reason why they're sort of moving towards those other options right now. So that question is a very good question for late May because we just don't know. And look, I think if you've got a few options available to yourself. Look, we pretty confident in that come late May you'll be able to fly Emirates via via somewhere in Australia, but it may not be out of Adelaide. Who knows.
01:09:57
Speaker 2: And do they pay for the extra cost to get you there?
01:10:01
Speaker 9: Okay, doll doodles, if you're flying in business class out of Adelaide, do'll flow business class to Melbourne, Sydney and guitars doing via Perth as well, So they'll handle it all. It's just a little bit extra time you got to worry about, and that's the only thing. But other than that, it's all handled and all done through us and through the air line.
01:10:18
Speaker 2: So yeah, And the reason you've suggested to this person and I know with Pete being here before, not to cancel is because if you cancel it the moment you depending on the type of flight you've booked, you'll lose your money, whereas if Emirates canceled closer refund.
01:10:32
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're definitely with Emirates right now. You'll get a majority of it back, like it's cancelation fees vary between you know, probably three hundred to six seven hundred dollars per ticket, depending on what ticket you've purchased. But you'll get the rest of it back. But if you if you hang on for another couple of weeks, they may be an option to get your full money back with Emirates et cetera.
01:10:52
Speaker 2: Okay, so at the moment, there's not too many people being stranded without a flight to get to their destination. It just might be a different way around.
01:11:02
Speaker 9: Correct, correct, you look, most people now be able to find alternative options and they're heading away on the trips. This is very popular time for travel, Easter, school holidays, you know, April, start of Europe in summer. So everyone's now you know, now getting off on their on their trips. So it's all happening.
01:11:16
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, exciting. This person on the text line says, we're planning a trip in May to go to Italy. Booked an airb and b in Venice. Got an email last night asking for seven euro each person to stay and spend time in Venice.
01:11:32
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, there's a lot of lot. Venice is not the only one in Europe. There's taxes for Amsterdam, lots of like city taxes now that have been placed in these sort of city they're trying to. They're saying they're doing it to try, and I guess combat passion in numbers and you know, over tourism and that sort of thing. Look, ultimately it's Venice. You're going to pay it, aren't you. They know that as well. So you just part of the part of the joys of well the world these days is that where they can, they'll charge you. Some Amsterdam taxes a lot higher than that. Rome's had a like a depending on what the star rating you stay in, you pay a euro fee per star rating. So I think it's like three euros for three star, four euros for four, et cetera, et cetera. So a lot of these I guess big cities do have these taxes which go to the government to do what they've got to do. They've got to course keep Venice and Rome looking perfect, I suppose, and it apparently goes into those sort of these sort of areas. But it's just I guess the joy of life these days is and you pay when you've got a premium like a Venice And I still love Venice, think it's one of my favorite cities of the world. You can maximize it, can't you.
01:12:36
Speaker 2: So I like that idea of doing the tiered system though, because the only time I've been to Europe was in my early twenties backpacking and staying in hostels, so at that point.
01:12:48
Speaker 9: For me, good old days.
01:12:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Had the best pasta I've ever eaten ever in Venice. It was amazing. But yeah, I like that that if you're staying in a three star accommodation, you pay a bit less because you know it makes sense.
01:13:03
Speaker 9: It does exactly.
01:13:06
Speaker 2: We have another question here from Kevin at West Lakes. Could you provide an update on United Airlines direct flights from Adelaide to San Francisco?
01:13:13
Speaker 9: Do you Yeah, we do have an update. It's just it's just finished. It was on for about a four month period over our summer period. So look, I guess the politicians mister Melanowskis and others will get together and work on a plan for next year, hoping that it comes back in again for our summer their winter period. I don't know the numbers, I haven't got my off the top of my head, but how the numbers went for Adelaide flights, you know, it's obviously it came in at an instant time. You know with the tariffs came in around at the same time that it was launched. But you know, we know that the demand is there for Adelaide flights, and I guess we just got to I guess do their best to try and maximize it so we're not unsure about whether we're back. Who knows.
01:13:54
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's always good to have the direct flights. Yeah, I guess they just need to be full as.
01:14:01
Speaker 9: That's what it comes down to long term. It has to be good numbers to make it work. And obviously you got freight and export stuff as well. You can try and bundle it in together.
01:14:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Penny says, is there going to be enough jet fuel? I heard a rumor there might not be, and I'm planning on flying in June.
01:14:16
Speaker 9: Who knows. Again, I'd love to a crystal Ball probably wouldn't be here, wold I it's a hard one. Look, I know these airlines have been through a lot in their journey, and I've been in the industry almost thirty years. I've never had a situation where there's been any rationing or flights canceled personally due to this sort of situation. You never can say never. I suppose in life that's what it is. But ultimately their airlines are selling with confidence into the future. We're selling forward into the future with confidence people that wanted to travel and are key to do it. So he's got to hope for the best and let others do the I guess that sort of work, and we'll be told, I guess hopefully in plenty of notice. But look, yes, I'd be surprised, but i'd be surprised before.
01:15:02
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's all very unpredictable at the moment. But Penny, we did hear from the federal government earlier today. The Prime Minister and the Energy Minister, Chris Bowen held a press conference where they said that there's thirty days of jet fuel currently in supply, So it was thirty days of jet fuel, thirty nine days of petrol and twenty nine days of diesel that the country has, which makes you feel a little bit better, but also it's not a whole lot. Twenty nine days of diesel doesn't sound great. Thirty days of jet fuel also doesn't sound too good. But you know, at least there's enough at the moment for the time being, that's for sure, all right, Darien, I wanted to ask you about Tasting Australia because it's one of my favorite times of the year. I'm big foody, of course. I love to go down to Town Square and eat absolutely everything that they have there. And the best thing about Tasting Australia is it takes you on a food journey, not just around the state, but around the country and the world with the different types of cuisines that they have on offer. But this time they're literally taking you around.
01:16:06
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is amazing. This is some of the best chef from world famous chefs, some great chefs here in Australia taking on a journey from Darwin to Adelaide on the famous Gang So combining one of Australia's iconic travel journeys, a three night journey from Darwin down to Adelaide going for Alice Springs. You've got kouber Pete, You've got amazing food experiences. So there's a world famous chef who's based in London. I'm going to butcher the name, but I'll give it a go. It's nives Abagan Mahacho something.
01:16:36
Speaker 2: Like that sounds probably.
01:16:38
Speaker 9: The Basque region of Bilbeo in northern Spain. Now that's one of the food destinations of the world. Some of the best iconic food in that part of the northern part of Spain, very very traditional, high quality, a lot of seafood. She moved to London, has had three Michelin Stars restaurants in the last sort of fifteen years or so. She's coming down, going to be cooking a couple of meals for you on the gang. You've got some world renowned chefs in Australia as well who will be joining her to sort of collaborate and make it a food and wine experience. They've got Bollinger, You've got beautiful coffees. You've got a whole range of experiences. They've got some there's a a an outdoor dinner under the Stars. There's a beautiful lunch again outside in I think it's in the old Alie Springs station. So there's some really wonderful, I guess, iconic experiences you can do close to home, and this stuff that you can't do normally anywhere else, so you know you're going to have that again itself by on its own is a great experience coupled up with these iconic experiences throughout the trip, it's three nights of indulgence, I suppose, coupled up with the scenery, it's a great time to be traveling through that part of Australia as well. Weather's lovely. It's a bit cool at night time but beautiful during the day. Of course, you could fly up to Darwin a couple of days earlier, so it really is a great timing. It kicks off basically Tasting Australia. It departs Darwin on the six of six of May in the morning and then you travel for the three nights down to Adelaide, arriving on the ninth of the ninth of May, and then you're here when Tasting Australia really kicks off here in Adelaide for the next couple of weeks, so you know you can sort of get a sample of that and then you can continue on Adelaide.
01:18:21
Speaker 2: How good.
01:18:22
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:18:22
Speaker 2: And hosting it all is Mandy Hall, who's a regular on five Double A Afternoons our very own Food Extraordinaire South Australian Woman of the Year in twenty twenty five for Hospitality.
01:18:33
Speaker 9: She's hosting it.
01:18:33
Speaker 2: Oh, she's so much fun.
01:18:35
Speaker 9: Now you've got Mark Best, who's from Sydney is going to be on board as well, and there's also one of the persons Shannon shann and Fleming Joe Barrett, so there's some really big names on board with you. So you know, for an experience like that, it's for three nights, it's seven thousand, three hundred and ninety five dollars per person twin share, so not a lot more than what the normal again Gold Twins is is price. So you're getting those sort of world famous chefs, great food, great experiences, you know, for for that kind of money, I think it's good value. And of course when you're on board the train, there's nothing else you have to worry about cost wise, it's all included, all your drinks, all the wonderful experiences, all the sight seeing, going to see along the way through through the center of Australia. It's just a great opportunity. So if you wanted to get away in four weeks time and in sample Australia Australian food culture with a sample of a bit of a European Michelan Star chef. You see some of these Mission Star restaurants in Europe and the cost, you know, for the dinner is up there price wise, so you've got that included in this experience. So I've got to think about all that sort of value value add experience.
01:19:46
Speaker 2: So once in a lifetime, that's for sure.
01:19:48
Speaker 9: Definitely.
01:19:50
Speaker 2: All right, let's bring in Anthony Flores now from Grand Pacific Tours. I want to talk about some of the tours that they're doing at the moment. Hi, Anthony, how are you good?
01:20:00
Speaker 18: Stuffy?
01:20:01
Speaker 21: How are you?
01:20:01
Speaker 9: Yeah?
01:20:02
Speaker 1: Good?
01:20:02
Speaker 2: Thank you? Before we get into it, I just wanted to ask if you can tell us a little bit about Grand Pacific Tours for those who haven't heard or haven't been on one of your tours. What do you do and what destinations do you cover?
01:20:14
Speaker 18: Yeah, so we are a New Zealand special So New Zealand is the only destination we go to and we've been doing that for thirty years. In fact, we had our thirty year anniversary last week on the first of April, which we're very excited about. And we are recognized for being a market leader when it comes to travel in New Zealand.
01:20:34
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:20:35
Speaker 2: Great, And so tell us about the types of experiences you do, the types of tours.
01:20:43
Speaker 18: Yeah, so all of our tours are guided fully escorted guided tours. So we have two tour styles. We specialize in small group touring and also Signature medium sized touring. A full sized coach typically has forty eight seats. We still use full sized coaches, but we put less seats in them, so our ultimate small group touring has a maximum of twenty passengers instead of forty eight, so it's one and one seating, so one long aisle on one side and one on the other side, with a little tray table up against the window, full panoramic windows. Four and a half star accommodation, loads of inclusions, lots of sight seeing, and we have an average of four to five star accommodation. And with our Signature touring coach, we put thirty two seats on it, so we've got two aisles of seating on one side and a single aisle on the other side, so instead of having your four aisles, we've got one less and what that means is lots of extra room. We have an average of four to five star accommodation. Professional Coach Captain and these are exclusive to Grand Pacific Tours.
01:21:53
Speaker 9: Anthony Sai Darrin, you are going, oh good day, darn, how are you very good. Are you seeing any trend or any sort of I guess your client's looking at particular where they looking for the smaller group, or you're sort of in general seeing everything. What are you seeing right now? Yeah?
01:22:08
Speaker 18: Look, definitely your small at a medium sized travel is a trend, and it really has been trending that way really since COVID, to be honest, So we used to run a forty eight seater. We don't anymore. And the benefits of having less people on a tour is not just the comfort on board, it's the time it takes getting on or off the coach. I mean, if you've got a group of forty eight or fifty and you're doing let's say sixty stops throughout a ten day tour, fifteen day two or twenty day tour or whatever have been, that time really adds up. So having these luxury coaches, when you're getting more attention from both your tour leader and then your local guides as well, it makes a huge difference to that overall experience. So that definitely is the way people are wanting to travel. And we get a lot of clients who have traveled with those bigger groups and they come and travel and do small other medium sized groups and they just rave about the difference in experience for them.
01:23:06
Speaker 2: And I imagine doing a group tour would be a lot less stress than doing it individually. As a solo traveler. You're having to work out do I have a seat on this train? Do I need to book the train ahead of time? How do I get from here to here? Where's a close restaurant? You know, you don't have to worry about that when you're on a tour.
01:23:23
Speaker 18: Absolutely, and that's one of the reasons people love Grand Pacific tours is we take that stress away from them. Everything's organized for them. We you know, one of the things about New Zealand as a destination, it's a beautiful country. Nowhere near as many straight roads as we have here in Australia. There's a lot of big mountains over there in New Zealand and lots of windy roads, but the scenery is starting. So having someone doing that driving for you and be able to just take in the scenery in itself is a huge benefit. But also, as you said, having everything organized for them. When we pull up to a hotel, we have a meet and greet by representative from the whole hotel. You don't have to check in. Each time we get to a hotel, you jump off the coach, that representative will hand your key card to you and you'll basically go up to the room. Your bag gets taken up for you. So all your portage is included, all your sight scene is included as well. There are some optionals that you can do, but we include a lot of sight seeing that you don't have to pay for. That you don't have to book. Makes a huge difference.
01:24:27
Speaker 9: He sure it does. Now we've always worked with Graham say we working with it for thirty years. We've always worked with a nineteen day rail cruise and coach tour. Tell listeners a bit more about that one.
01:24:38
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Darian. This is it is our most popular tour. It's the one that we do, I guess Sally out the earliest. We do it in both the signas around the ultimate style. It's a great tour. Some of the reasons people love this obviously is the extra rail journeys that we do. So we include the Transalpine on the South Island, which is the well's most well known and of the scenic rail journeys in New Zealand and that goes through christ Church over to Arthur's Pass. We also do the Coastal Pacific, so we do that from Picton and that goes down the coastal region on the South Island, so the top of the South Island and down through that Marlborough region, that beautiful Marble region looking out to the Pacific. And we do a couple of steam railways as well, so we do the Glenn Book Vintage Railway, which is a love of a railway out of Auckland. And the other thing that we do which is a real highlight for our guests is an overnight on Milford Sound. So most too is that you do on the South Island, you'll do a day trip out to Milford Sound. This one you actually get an overnight. So what we do is we take you to Milford Sound. If it's a signature tour or a doubtful sound on the ultimate tour, you take an overnight bag, you go on a small ship and you get to spend that time out there and extra time that you would normally get compared to a day tour. And this is a major highlight for a lot of our guests, and that spectacular World Heritage List of Fueled Lands region, so really is quite stunning.
01:26:08
Speaker 6: It is.
01:26:08
Speaker 2: It is something that you see pictures of and videos of if you haven't been to New Zealand, and I haven't been. I've always wanted to go, but it's one of those destinations that's always in the back of my mind and never really in the front of my mind to go further up.
01:26:22
Speaker 9: It's such an amazing As Anthony said, it's one of my favorite destinations. So scenic. When you're there, you feel like you're in Canada. He really does parts of Mount Corkan and the Sudden in the South Island. It's a really underrated destination and all the history, the Mari culture and the beautiful wineries, great food, great seafood, the oysters and whatnot. You know, he has got so much gain for it. He really hasn't packs a lot of punch.
01:26:44
Speaker 18: So absolutely, yeah, you've summed that up really well, Darien. There is so much different, unique landscape in New Zealand, and you could at times be thinking you're in parts of Canner or parts of Europe or even parts of South America. So it's very, very.
01:26:58
Speaker 2: Stunning beautiful, and I assume you do both islands.
01:27:03
Speaker 18: We do. Yeah, so the non indo rail cruise and coach does both islands quite extensively, so you do work your way from the top of the North right down towards the bottom of the South, so your head as far north as the Bay of Islands and as far south as Milford Sound and Meeden. So it's a really extensive itinery.
01:27:22
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:27:22
Speaker 18: So absolutely beautiful itinery and one it's very very popular for all of our guests.
01:27:28
Speaker 2: Sounds beautiful. Thanks for telling us all about it, Anthony.
01:27:31
Speaker 9: Thanks Anthony, It's okay, that's.
01:27:33
Speaker 2: Anthony Flores from Grand Pacific Tours. Yeah. Like I said, Darien, it's always It's always in the back of my mind. I did have a trip book to New Zealand, a two week road trip with my husband, and it was during COVID, so we ended up having to cancel it all and it just looked amazing and.
01:27:49
Speaker 9: The feedback our clients just love it. Well, my parents back in the day did the exact tour that Anthony was talking about the campus. If you about fifteen years ago, they still put it very high on their on their favorite sort of list, and everybody who we send to New Zealand and to send a grand pacifics way, just come back and just rave about it. It is a great, great holiday, so easy to do. You've got direct flights from Adelaide as well now and there's four or five hours and you're there, and it is. It is different. It's got similarities of course to our great country, but it's very very different. We do get anything like a here in Australia really when it comes to the scenery.
01:28:20
Speaker 2: And it feels like it would be not easy in a bad way, but an easy place to travel to. It's same language, you know, similar dollar transfer. It's slightly different, but not a huge difference.
01:28:32
Speaker 9: There were friendly people that love that Australian New Zealand rivalry, which is a nice sort of banter basically over there, and so it is. It is very few are sort of looking to sort of experience something for the first time. It's great travel destination for a first time or all those who aren't as confident or perhaps you know, mature age, what ever want to call it. So it is a great option.
01:28:50
Speaker 2: Definitely a coach too, it would be a good way to do it.
01:28:52
Speaker 9: I think the sceneries particular under underestimate is hitting sitting higher as well. In the coach, you've got big picture windows, so you see a lot more when you're in a coach versus a car. Of course, when you're in a car, you got one person driving and that takes away from a little bit of that sort of scenery as well.
01:29:08
Speaker 2: So I've never thought about it like that even just yeah, you're right sitting higher up that little bit.
01:29:12
Speaker 9: Behind those and you've got something telling you what you're seeing and how you doing it, and it does make a big difference.
01:29:16
Speaker 2: Things underrated, Yeah, and finding I remember when we were booking all the accommodation along the way for the road trip and hiring the car. It's always hard when you're doing that.
01:29:27
Speaker 9: You never too sure you get it right, and.
01:29:30
Speaker 2: We have many days we saw.
01:29:31
Speaker 9: Both and I think it's a good option. It's a bit of a combination. You can do a bit of car, a bit of coach. No different to Europe, so you can mix it up and have sort of mini hotala's a bit of rail as well. You can sort of do it all that sort of thing.
01:29:42
Speaker 2: So yeah, beautiful. Well, thanks for coming in, Darry, Thanks Stacey, it's been a great chat and Yeah. If you need some advice or tips, not just for New Zealand, but for traveling overseas in South Australia, interstate, any sort of travel, the team at phil Hoffman Travel can work.
01:29:58
Speaker 9: It out for you here to help experience.
01:30:01
Speaker 12: Yep.
01:30:01
Speaker 2: And if you've got a more specific question now for the team that you thought I didn't really want to get on the phone to ask, Darian, the phil Hoffman Travel Lounge experts are taking your calls now until three point thirty on eight, double two three, double o, double five. Thanks Darian, thank you, see you. It's Darian Foot from phil Hoffman Travel Regional sales manager. All right, it's time for the three o'clock news. Now, after that we're going to check in on the Ben Roberts Smith case. He was arrested in Sydney. We'll cross to a reporter in Sydney, and then we're talking about language, in particular with swear words. After Donald Trump went on an expletive leyden rant on social media. How do we deem which words are considered swear words? How do we see when our world leaders are using swear words as opposed to just someone on the street. Why is there a difference there. I'm excited to have that conversation.
01:30:55
Speaker 1: Next five double A Afternoons, which.
01:30:59
Speaker 2: Stay good afternoon to you, and welcome to the third and final hour of the Afternoon's program. I'm with you. I'm Stacy with you through un till four o'clock. My name is Stacy, not with you. I think we've just found our first nomination for Turkey Tuesday. In half an hour's time, I'm taking your calls. Who deserves to be nominated for Turkey of the Week. Did someone do something silly in your house? Did the easter bunny forget to put out the eggs this easter long weekend? What happened? Who needs to be called out on the radio for it?
01:31:37
Speaker 14: Eight?
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Speaker 2: Double two, three, double oh is the number to call, And after three point thirty I will have a mixed twenty four pack of the Turkey flat wine cans to give away. They've got a rose, a pinogree, and a sharaz grenash. Now, very soon we're going to be talking about language, and in particular foul language swear words. Donald Trump has posted an expletive laden social media post, and I've got to admit I wasn't all that surprised when I read it, and then I had to check myself and say, hold on, you probably should be surprised about this. This is a world leader using the F word and the B word online when he's talking about war and bombing people. That is something that we should be surprised about. But to so many people it's not surprising because swear words have become part of our everyday language now unfortunately. So going to talk to Kate Burridge about that, she's a professor of linguistics, about why it's become more accepted and it does feel like swearing is a part of the Australian culture. But how to swearing in the US different to swearing in Australia. I'm sure we have some differences there. So I'm looking forward to that conversation and you know your thoughts as well, your toned down thoughts that won't lead me to press the dump button. Please on eight double two three double o double oh. But first up today, Ben Roberts Smith is expected to be charged with five counts of war crimes of murder after a year's long investigation. It was announced by the Australian Federal Police today and Jefferson Shaw is a reporter for nine Radio who is at the press conference and joins you. Now, Hi Jefferson, thanks for your time.
01:33:25
Speaker 22: Hello Jacy, very welcome here.
01:33:28
Speaker 2: Thank you. And so what do we know about the investigation? It has been going on for a number of years.
01:33:35
Speaker 22: Yeah, that's right, it's been going on for five years now, and it was a joint investigation by Central Police and the Special Office of the sorry, the Office of the Special Investigator. And what it's found is that there is a forty seven year old man that has been accused of five separate offenses of war crimes. Now AFP didn't name the man today, but media sources have confirmed that it is Ben Robert Smith that's accused of these kinds the alleged war crimes. And yeah, that's what we we've heard today.
01:34:17
Speaker 2: And so in relation to the five counts, is that alleged to be five separate murders or are they counts in relation to one or a couple?
01:34:31
Speaker 18: They are.
01:34:33
Speaker 22: As it appears from what we know at the moment, they are individual cases where either Ben Roberts Smith allegedly either himself committed these offenses or directed other people to commit these alleged offenses. So that is what we know. We heard from the AFT Commissioner, Chrissy Barrett. She today went through the detail and said that, yes, as I was saying, it would be alleged the victims were shot as a direct quote by the accused or shot by subordinate members of the AFP in the presence of and on the orders of the.
01:35:16
Speaker 2: Accused, right, okay, And so he's going to appear in court. We're still thinking this afternoon.
01:35:24
Speaker 22: Look, it is accuring less likely now in this afternoon. It may be that the charges may come in a little late and therefore it may be pushed back tomorrow. It's not yet known. Yeah, So we're just waiting for the official confirmation from police that he has been charged, as they have outlined that he's expected to be charged. And it should be also noted that they do say that their investigation is ongoing, so even't in yet if there could be more charges laid or clarification on some of these charges, and even if other charges on other individuals may or may not be laid. It also is worth noting that a Commissioner Barrett also wanted to acknowledge the fact that this may have an impact on some of those that you know, haven't that that are part of the ADF and would.
01:36:21
Speaker 8: Be deeply disturbed.
01:36:22
Speaker 22: And she was so she was a pain to say that this affects very minor part of the ADF and that that really on the whole. She she really was thankful and grateful for the wider work that the Australian Defense Force does.
01:36:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's important, I think to stress that do we know if Ben Robert Smith is in custody at the moment or was he like issued with a summons to appear in court where those charges will formally be laid.
01:36:51
Speaker 22: So he was arrested this morning at Sydney Airport. He was taken we believe to a to a nearby police station like Mascot Police Station in Sydney, and it is unclear if that's where he remains. But yeah, we're just really waiting the waiting watch at this point in time.
01:37:12
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much for your time this afternoon, Jefferson. I'm actually just looking at some of the vision on our live stream. It looks like it's been provided by the AFP. Just looking at the government logo up in the corner, and it looks like the officers escorted him off the plane, so they didn't even wait for him to get into the terminal. It's quite looks like quite a dramatic sort of scene.
01:37:38
Speaker 22: Yes, I haven't seen the vision myself. I haven't yet to see it, but yeah, they were asked how Ben Robert Smith reacted at the press conference, but they were unwilling to comment at this stage as it is technically, even though not facing a court, is yet to be seen before a court.
01:37:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, head on to our our live stream, Facebook and YouTube to check it out if you're listening and you'd like to see it. It is, as I say, it's quite quite intense. He's getting off a Quantus plane. He's flanked by two police in uniform and it looks like three detectives all in suits, and he's put into a white four wheel drive almost on the tarmac. So yeah, they didn't even wait for him to get off the plane. Interesting times. We'll wait and see Jefferson if he appears in court this afternoon or.
01:38:28
Speaker 18: Tomorrow, absolutely will happen to you.
01:38:31
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's Jefferson Shaw, reporter with nine Radio who was at the press conference earlier today, and you'll hear the latest update right here on five double A when the news comes in. All right, we'll take a quick break now, and when we come back, we'll talk about foul language and swear words and why swear words have seemingly become more accepted over the years, with the US President Donald Trump writing a post on social media over the week and filled with them.
01:39:03
Speaker 13: Five double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
01:39:10
Speaker 2: In June last year, Donald Trump had this to say, Now.
01:39:16
Speaker 3: We have we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the they're doing.
01:39:25
Speaker 2: And people were a little bit outraged by it. But then over the weekend he posted on social media, Tuesday will be power plant Day and bridge Day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark. Open the straight, you crazy, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch Praise be to Allah.
01:39:53
Speaker 9: Now.
01:39:53
Speaker 2: When people read this, there was a lot of I guess, concern, a lot of outrage that the President of the United States was using swear words in his rant. I wasn't surprised when I read it, and then I had to check myself and say, well, should I be surprised? This is the president of the United States? Is this a way we want our international diplomacy to take place? So I wonder were you surprised when you read the swear words from Donald Trump on eight double two to three double double?
01:40:23
Speaker 14: Oh?
01:40:24
Speaker 2: And why have swear words become more accepted over the years? And one woman who can answer it is Cate Burridge. She's a professor of linguistics at Monash University. Good afternoon, professor, thanks for your time.
01:40:36
Speaker 23: That's my pleasure station.
01:40:39
Speaker 2: Is that the case? Do you think swear words have become more accepted over the years.
01:40:44
Speaker 23: Oh, there's no doubt. There's no doubt about it, because I started working on swearing in the nineteen eighties, early nineteen nineties, I suppose it was. And I was with a colleague form my potty mouse colleague, Keth Allen into this world.
01:41:02
Speaker 2: I don't sound like one to swear very often, Kate.
01:41:04
Speaker 23: No, Well, I wasn't actually, and it took me quite some effort to start using them. You know, I had to talk about them in a public setting. It was very difficult, but we had real trouble getting out our work published. Then no one would touch it, and now now it's completely different. Everyone's out there studying swearing and it's really still incredibly interesting. And of course we actually are in a better position to look at what's happening with swear words because we have big collections of conversations, you know, online, face to face conversation. So recently I did a study with the colleague online data. It was so publicly available web data, so we looked at one point seven billion words, and we looked across twenty different varieties of English. And this probably wasn't surprise is given how you opened this segment. Americans were on top, British second, and Australian's third.
01:42:04
Speaker 18: Oh, that does.
01:42:04
Speaker 2: Surprise me a little bit because I thought that, you know, swearing in Aussie culture kind of hand in hand. There are words that we used that I think that they wouldn't necessarily use overseas, and it's kind of, you know, it's kind of interwoven with Ossie culture at top.
01:42:23
Speaker 23: If you're absolutely spot on, But we we are much happier with you know, swearing in the public domain. Americans are more happy swearing on, you know, in the sort of anonymous settings online. I should also say in social networks on x SO Twitter data. There was a similar study that was looking at US something like seven point eight billion words, and that also showed that there were Americans were on the top, Brits were second, an Australian's third. So we liked the warehouse where it's like emblems on a T shirt, you know, we put them out there, on public billboards, we put them and you know, advertisements to try to lure people to this part of the world. You know, do you remember where the bloody hell are you add? In two thousand and six, I think it was that was banned in Canada. It was banned, it was altered. Bending words were dropped out in Singapore, u K banned UK really and we actually looked at some collections of conversations comparing Australia and London English. In this case, it was and there were many more cases of bloody there than.
01:43:35
Speaker 6: We use it, interestingly, but.
01:43:39
Speaker 23: Brits just aren't used to seeing it on billboards or on you know, the drink drive bloody idiot. There is also another one that shocked visitors.
01:43:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's one here that was rolled out a few years ago by South Australia Police. Don't drive like a w and then there was a picture of an anchor which was quite funny.
01:43:59
Speaker 5: That's very funny.
01:44:00
Speaker 21: That's good because it's.
01:44:03
Speaker 2: It's it also takes you a second to think about it.
01:44:06
Speaker 4: You think it does.
01:44:08
Speaker 23: Yeah, that's clever. Yeah, normally we're not we're not squeamish about putting these words on onto billboards. But you know that really does. That's a good attention grabbing thing.
01:44:21
Speaker 2: And you mentioned that the word, you know, bloody, that ad where the bloody hlaya was banned in some countries. And I guess we use swear words differently from country to country because I know myself, I have to stop. I have to stop myself. It must just be something in my vernacular where I tend to say bloody hell a lot. And I don't know if that was all my years watching alf On Hominoy, you know your flame and gala.
01:44:48
Speaker 23: But I think.
01:44:50
Speaker 2: I have to stop myself.
01:44:52
Speaker 23: It's very mild now, is that.
01:44:53
Speaker 13: I mean?
01:44:54
Speaker 23: Bloody is no different from very in Australian English, Whereas you know, I think it was the conflation of bloody and hell that put off particularly the North Americans because in our study that we did of this online data as well. We we saw that the US record I think was the highest use of the only religious based whear word we included that was dan And yeah, they it's it's interesting that they use this because normally they're very squeamish. So there's there's it's really sort of double think that goes on with swearing, isn't it that you know, you can have Americans holding relatively conservative added public morality, but you know, they they clearly value personal expression and they you know, and in the private I suppose anonymous settings like the Internet. You know, they're they're displays of swearing are spectacular, more spectacular than Australians. But I have to tell you that Australia is actually topped top the list for the most creative spellings of these swears. So that might be some consolation to people who are distressed by the fact that we came third.
01:46:03
Speaker 2: Is creative just a fancy way of saying incorrect spellings?
01:46:08
Speaker 23: Oh no, no, they were very creative, very very creative.
01:46:13
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued now. I always want you to spell it out, but I know that's just as bad as saying the word on radio, particularly at school pickup time.
01:46:22
Speaker 23: Well, I suppose it was a bit like your example of w and anchor, you know, someone that works I suppose bypass censorship, but or just fixed and to you for attention grabbing as well.
01:46:36
Speaker 2: Robert on the text line wants to know if a word gets to a point where you no longer consider it swearing.
01:46:43
Speaker 23: Yes, swearing words. The cuss words do change a lot over time because they draw from the taboos of society. So once upon a time it was you know that our religious base swearing, and that those was no longer pack much of a punch anymore. So their words became more physically and sexually based. And you know, they've been the swear words in English for a long long time.
01:47:12
Speaker 4: But they're also as you.
01:47:14
Speaker 23: Know, the fact that they're out there in tweets from the potty mouth president Bastard is an interesting one. But can I say that word it's actually very mild in Australia. It's not so mild in British English though. That actually topped the list for you know, offensive swear words when there was a study done by I think it was the Advertising Standards and BBC in the UK, which is probably why Brits don't like being called that, even even affectionately from Australians. It really yeah, but in Australia it's very mild, although it does depend on the vowel. If it's a short value, you know, you get a or bastard, that's a short vowel. But if it's you bastard much long avow Yeah, context is.
01:48:03
Speaker 2: All Yeah, that's true, that's true. Mike on the text line says Kevin Bloody Wilson was swearing in songs back in the seventies. Yes, thank you for that.
01:48:14
Speaker 23: I wonder if they were bleeped out or ah.
01:48:18
Speaker 2: Okay and Jane, I've noticed audiences laugh when stand up comedians use the F bomb. There was nothing witty said. Yeah, I think that's a that's a trend in the comedic world, just getting up and swearing. I know Jim Jeffries, the Aussie comedian, he kind of made a career for himself for a few years in the US getting up on stage and using the really bad swear words that we use in Australia that Americans don't tend to use, and it's sort of it was a bit of a novelty for them. Whereas I don't think if he did it here on stage, it would have been as.
01:48:51
Speaker 23: That's right, because I should have mentioned too that. You know, when we did a follow up study of face to face swearing Australian's topped, we had the largest proportion of people who swore freely in face to face conversation, So that would fit in there. We're much happier doing that.
01:49:08
Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. Depends what you'd prefer, your Aussie mate who swears it to your face or your American mate who swears about you online.
01:49:15
Speaker 14: That's right.
01:49:17
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is out of your wheelhouse, professor, but Michael says, I've heard that swearing if you hurt yourself can actually reduce pain.
01:49:26
Speaker 23: Oh, there's plenty of evidence for that, Yes, and plenty of evidence for you know, swear as leading less stressful lives. Perhaps that's a bit of a stretch, but if you put people in a stressful situation, if you tell them they can't swear, they'll get more stressed. And yes, swearing will alleviate pain, it will make you stronger. There are plenty of evidence for that. I recall there was some study done where people cuss their way through a half minute by challenge anyway, they're picked par rows by twenty four watts on average. And then one of those grip tasks you know you have to to do one. Recently I ask if I could swear in fact because in this swearing swear words boosted people's strength by two point one kilograms.
01:50:08
Speaker 2: There you go.
01:50:09
Speaker 23: Yeah, so there's plenty plenty of evidence there. But I should add if you're an habitual swearer, the effects diminished so you don't get as much, you know, buck.
01:50:20
Speaker 2: So save up your swear words when you need the extra strength when you really need them. Whie oh I like that. Oh, it's always fun to chat. Kate, thank you so much for your bloody time.
01:50:33
Speaker 5: That's my.
01:50:36
Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. That's Kate Burrage, professor of Linguistics at Monash University. It's half past three now, time for news headlines with a mel and then after that your turkey calls. Who's the Turkey of the week? Who deserves to be called down on the radio for doing something silly? There's a case of turkey flat vineyards wine in a can in it for the best.
01:50:59
Speaker 1: Call five double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
01:51:08
Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes to four. Here on five double A. Almost time to take your turkey calls on eight double two to three double o, double oh, get them in now, don't save them you. I know no one wants to be the first caller, but we always have people call in quite late during this half hour with their turkey nominations and we can never get through them all. So if you have a turkey nomination, if you'd like to win the case of turkey flat vineyards wine in a can prize, get on the phone now and nominate someone who did something silly over the weekend. Did the Easter bunny forget the chocolate eggs in your house? Maybe you forgot to get the maybe you forgot to get the turkey flat wines for your Easter lunch at your place, or maybe you just didn't rock up. I don't know, I don't know what it is. Who did you see that was a turkey on the weekend? Get your nomination in now. And we often have a self nomination too, so if it was you own up, it's a safe space you can share with us. On a double two three double o double oh. But Graham in Woodville has called in, and Graham, you wanted to talk about swearing.
01:52:16
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's gonna it's probably gonna affect you. So now you're a mum.
01:52:22
Speaker 8: Like a little kid.
01:52:23
Speaker 21: Imagine a four year old, three year old and they see something and they go, oh my god. You think, oh my god, oh my god. But it's the same little kid, said Jesus Christ.
01:52:36
Speaker 8: They get a bit of a slap.
01:52:37
Speaker 21: So amazing. How God and Jesus the lady was saying, depends on how you say yes.
01:52:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true, it's true, and it changes. And hearing swear words out of kids' mouths just sounds different, I think, to hearing an out of adults mouths, that's for sure.
01:52:55
Speaker 21: Well, yeah sounds pretty cute when they use it. You don't want to let anyone know you're no.
01:53:03
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're we're almost getting to the little stage of we've got we're getting some dad dad at the moment, but that's it. But I'm almost at that stage where I think I'm gonna have to start watching what I say around little Molly very soon because I know their brains are like sponges. Yeah, still hasn't said mum, but I'm waiting for that anyway. Thanks Graham, see you, that's Graham. In Woodville. This person on the text line. People that swear often have a higher intelligence than those who don't swear at all. It's just a word that strengthens the message you're conveying. Being offended from someone swearing is like being upset someone put a chip packet in your bin. Ah. I don't know. I mean maybe they're similar things. I think it's about respect, right, I don't think I would swear in certain sin. I don't swear around my yeah yah. For example, when I'm when I'm sitting down with my grandma, I'm not swearing out of respect. So I think it's it's all well and good to say you shouldn't be offended by someone else swearing. But yeah, I don't. I don't buy into that. I think there can be an incorrect situation to swear. And I'm no saint. I do swear in my everyday life, probably a little too much, but I am sort of careful about who I swear around. And if I'm around other people's kids too, it's yeah, it's just not nice anyway. Time for Turkey Calls.
01:54:38
Speaker 13: Time to call in and nominate your Turkey of the Week for Stacey Lees. Turkey Tuesday.
01:54:46
Speaker 2: Who deserves to be called down on the radio for doing something silly? Jason is in Saulisbury, East, Hello, Jason.
01:54:54
Speaker 17: Just on that case swearing part. It's not just talking now. Emojis are the peach emoji is crude?
01:55:04
Speaker 2: Yeah? Have you just discovered the peach? What about? Have you discovered the egg plant yet? Jason?
01:55:09
Speaker 17: And my daughters said, did you know that?
01:55:11
Speaker 11: Dad?
01:55:12
Speaker 2: No?
01:55:12
Speaker 17: I didn't have you know about it?
01:55:16
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:55:17
Speaker 17: Peter Fender one, remember about a month of guy's phone into two. How my doors give me trouble for saying thank you see your good night Siri? Yes, well, series got onto this female bandwagon. Now I say thank you Siri, You're welcome. Good night SUI. You don't have permission for that request. And then they're going the stairs say she's on to you dad.
01:55:41
Speaker 2: Even siries shutting you down. Jason.
01:55:44
Speaker 17: Yeah, my wife, my four daughters, and now series give me grief.
01:55:50
Speaker 2: I love that Siri does give it back, doesn't it interesting? I've I've got a male Siri.
01:55:57
Speaker 17: No, I love a female fair enough. Guys like female voices more than guys.
01:56:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. I like that one.
01:56:07
Speaker 17: American version more than British one.
01:56:09
Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, there you go, there you go. Well, maybe if you've got if you've got the American one, maybe they'll start acting like the president soon and start swearing at you. See you, Jason, Thanks for the girl. That's Jason in Saulisbury East. My turkey this weekend would have to be my husband. I know he gets a lot of Turkey nominations, but that's okay. He deserves most of them. We were staying at our family beach house at Old Dinger on the weekend, had a great time with some family who were here from inter state, and the whole time we were very careful with our sets of keys because there weren't our sets of keys, just making sure that they were always went back in the right spot and locking doors, and you know, you don't want something to happen. You don't want anything to happen when you're in someone else's house. And then about five minutes before we were about to leave, he couldn't find the keys. We've been so vigilant all weekend to put them back in the spot where they go, and then was running all around the house. He couldn't find them. He didn't know where they were. And it was at that time. We had planned our trip home to line up with Molly's nap, so I wanted to get her in the car by a certain time, hopefully hoping she would nap in the car. And I was just like, we have to go, We've got to go, We've got to go. Where are these keys? He couldn't find them anywhere, looked in every room, under every cushion. Ended up having to unpack the car, get the pram out of the car, and they were in the pram bag from the walk that morning. So sorry, Benny, you're the turkey. We still got on the road and Molly still napped in the car, but anyway, it was a little bit stressful for a few minutes there. Rocky in Dennancourt also has a Turkey nomination.
01:57:54
Speaker 13: High Rocky, how are you good?
01:57:56
Speaker 17: How are you?
01:57:59
Speaker 2: It was beautiful thing you How was yours?
01:58:01
Speaker 18: Okay?
01:58:01
Speaker 11: This is a turkey, he's the turkey. A family member had to make toast, put a little one because we had a family together, and he left the toaster in the cupboard. Oh so normally have a toast, you bring it out of the cupboard. Yep, he left the toaster in the cupboard with the toaster on and shut the door. Oh no, what are you doing there? He said, I'm making the toast and he can't put the toaster in the cupboard. I never knew that. So obviously he doesn't make the toast at home often, does he?
01:58:36
Speaker 2: Oh no, so he had closed the cupboard as well. So if something happened and the toaster started fire.
01:58:42
Speaker 11: Or something, yeah, then we really have to pull the turkey.
01:58:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, Rocky.
01:58:49
Speaker 21: Yeah.
01:58:50
Speaker 11: And I'm not saying names because it's not right to do that on their but yeah, that's the teat Yep.
01:58:55
Speaker 2: Good cool, very smart. You want to keep the family relations going. I appreciate that. Thanks, Rocky. See you. That's Rocky intern and court. If you've got a turkey nomination, I've got some time for more calls after this. Don't forget. There's a case of Turkey flat vineyard wines in a can to give away. So it's the same great turkey flat wines that you get in the glass bottle, the shirazgrenash, Pino, gree and Rose, but they're in a can, easy to transport, environmentally friendly. We took a couple down to al Dinger this weekend because they're so easy just to chuck in the car, and if you don't feel like opening a whole bottle, you can just have a can of an evening with your dinner. Perfect. So I've got a mixed twenty four pack to give away to the best caller this afternoon. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number.
01:59:45
Speaker 13: Fusion five double A Afternoons with Stacy.
01:59:49
Speaker 2: Lee at thirteen minutes to four. Mike on the text line, Hi, Stacy, do you swear more in English or Greek? It depends on the audience. Mate, Uh, probably English, But if I'm out in public, I don't want people to know what I'm saying. Maybe Greek. Thank you for that. Peter in Para Hills West has called in with a Turkey nomination.
02:00:14
Speaker 24: Hello Peter, afternoon, Stacy.
02:00:17
Speaker 2: How are you good?
02:00:18
Speaker 13: How are you a little bit?
02:00:20
Speaker 24: I'm calm down a bit night. Now one goes out to Air Asia. Oh oh, I booked a trip to Bali and everything was hunky dory this morning. Now they've decided to change the flight going over, so I renegotiated coming back and going over a bit later. An hour later, another one came through. They've canceled going over and coming home. So I've spent six hours on the computer speaking with some AI not getting anywhere, and it's really really annoyed.
02:00:50
Speaker 2: Ah, that stuff is infuriating when you either can't get a real person on the phone, or when you eventually get through and they try and help you but they're not actually helping you and you can't get through.
02:01:01
Speaker 24: It's no phone number in Australia. I can't get hold of course not And now I'm trying to get the refone. No, I've had the book with jet Star at quite a few hundred more and I have to be over there on a certain day and it's just it is so infuriating. So now I probably have to go to the Adelaide airport and go face to face.
02:01:22
Speaker 2: Oh do they even have someone in Adelaide Airport to be able to talk to you?
02:01:26
Speaker 24: Well, I won't know that until tomorrow.
02:01:28
Speaker 9: Will I.
02:01:29
Speaker 2: It's so and it just seems like it's the norm. It doesn't matter who you call, whether it's Air Asia, you try and call your bank, a supermarket, a store, anyone. You can't get through to the amount of times I've tried to call, you know, David Jones in Rundle mall or something and you can't actually get through to anyone.
02:01:46
Speaker 24: You go to a computer, six hours on the computer trying to get and all I get is not right, not right, not right, and it's just AI and it's infuriating. That's my Turkey Tuesday.
02:02:00
Speaker 1: There we go.
02:02:00
Speaker 2: I don't have enough Turkey sound effects to play here, just the one. But yeah, thank you PETERO bye. Yeah. I feel Peter's pain. That is really hard when you're trying to get someone on the phone and you can never ever do it anymore. No one wants to talk on the phone, very very annoying. In regards to our swearing conversation we were having earlier, Judy on the text line says, I remember when Michael Cole said the s H word are the logis poor? Bert had the look of thunder on his face. Yes, that was classic because that was live as well. I think the logis live. I reckon the Logi's alive. Yes, that was good. Um Or I was about to read that text out, Neil, he sent me a sweary text. Thank you for that.
02:02:51
Speaker 15: Ah.
02:02:52
Speaker 2: Andrew has said it's amazing that Diesel has gone up by ten cents just before Gather around. That's right, because we were told last week that there was going to be a ten cent reduction on off of this week at some I think it was shell service stations from Wednesday for gather around. What a surprise they've gone up by ten cents when the ten cent discount is just about to come in. Ugh, thank you for that. Andrew Sue says, I've just done my panic by for this event, not toilet paper or sanitizer, but I've made sure my pets have enough food for a month stashed away and will continue to get their usual rations weekly. SOO, thank you for that one. And there are things that you think about and you go, I know we're okay, but do I just need to stock up on a few more items. I know people that when COVID first started, they went out and did like a massive six hundred dollars shop. And you know, at the moment, a six hundred dollars shop would probably get you three bags of groceries, but back then that was a lot got a lot of food a six hundred dollars shop because they were worried that there wouldn't be food, we wouldn't get items. And you know, if the world is shut down like it was during COVID, but there are always essential services as there were in COVID, and there will always be essential services. But I'd be more worried about supply this time around than during COVID, because COVID was a health matter that people couldn't and were being told not to travel, whereas this could be a supply matter eventually. But I don't want to worry people. We're told by the government there's enough fuel to go around. There's thirty nine days of petrol, thirty days of jet fuel, and twenty nine days of diesel. Andrew on the text line says, back in the day when they had petrol rationing, they had attendance, not self serve, so if you had the wrong number plate, they wouldn't fill your car up. That's a really good point, Andrew, because we were having this conversation earlier about how petrol rationing would work, and it was in the seventies, odds and evens, but we were saying with now, with number plates and some of them are only letters, or they end in a letter and start in a letter, how do you decide whether that's an odd or an even number plate? So, yeah, that's must have been how it worked. Then this is a really good thought. I like this one. Everyone who's driving should have a license and therefore a license number which actually ends in a number, so odds and evens on that easy as good luck getting the common person to understand how it works, though, I think that's a really good suggestion because everything else can be open to interpretation. And you know, well, my number plate ends in an S. Is it an odd or an even number? I don't know, but that seems pretty easy. Although would you just get if you were an old and your partner wasn't even would you just get them to take your car down to fill it up? And there would have to be some sort of way that they keep track of who's filling up, because what's to stop the even number, for example, taking the car and filling up at three different service stations in the same day. So that does have to be some sort of checking done, some way of checking, I guess. Bruce in glenn Gowrie has called in on eight double two three double O double. Oh hi Bruce, how are you good?
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Speaker 5: Well, I've got a funny story about swearing. My daughter would have been about six or seven at the time, and I almost cut my thumb off with a circle of saw, so I wrapped it up in a towel, raced inside, told my wife to get me to the hospital. And as soon as I went in to see the doctor, and my daughter was sitting there with my wife, and she turned around to my wife and said, he said.
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Speaker 11: A very very rude word.
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Speaker 2: Did she dub on you to the doctor or to your wife?
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Speaker 16: No?
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Speaker 5: No, just to the wife.
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Speaker 2: At least she understood that's the rude word. I love that kids are so funny. Very good, Bruce, Thank.
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Speaker 13: You and you too.
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Speaker 9: Bye.
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Speaker 2: It's Bruce in Glenn Gallery. Andrew In Prospectors called in.
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Speaker 6: Hi Andrew, Yeah, Hi, you talking about petrol rationally, I've talked about what about the last ditches of the year that he was born in cold either be zero, one, two, three, four or nine?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ons and evens. Yeah that makes sense as well. Yeah, and then.
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Speaker 21: You'd need you produce some sort of ID Yeah, to check your birthday.
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Speaker 8: We did, We do birthdate on it.
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Speaker 2: Yep, that would work. Again, we'd need to have a way of checking that you haven't filled up anywhere else. But that applies to whatever system you end up using so that one works your birth date, because everyone who's got a car needs a driver's license.
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Speaker 6: I think, have a good day.
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Speaker 2: Yes, thanks Andrew, see you. Uh. This person on the text line Louis also suggested odds and even numbers and then letters from A to M and N to Z or I reckon, that's getting a bit confusing, A to M, en to Z. Yeah, and then this person says Karen, and I kind of agree with this, Karen, I'm not sure how odds and evens works when it comes to rationing. It really wouldn't help that much because people would just be there every second day. Makes no sense. I can't see the point. It's true. Even if we had a limit. We were saying earlier when we were talking to Trent from Wheels Media about it, that maybe there would be a limit of forty leaders per tank. For example, you just fill up forty leaders on the Monday and then go again on Wednesday and fill up an extra forty leaders. Would it really stop that many people from going and filling up I don't know. Terry also has a similar suggestion odd and even birth years or birth dates for the owner of the car. Only Well, that's interesting. You can only fill up your car if you own it. All very good suggestions. Thank you for sending them in today, and while you're on the road if you do happen to go past a bp X convenience at the moment for only one month from April seven today until May six, there's a special Flurio Milk iced coffee range that's out. They've got a purple lid. I had a little bit of this one before I got on air. It's the lactose free with no added sugar, and I wanted to try the low sugar one because this is a very special one. It's been done in conjunction with the Breakthrough Mental Health Research Foundation, and some of the money raised from the sales of these Flurio milk iced coffees is going to go to supporting the Breakthrough Mental Health Research Foundation and helping rural communities. We know how tough our farmers are doing it at the moment, particularly here talking about petrol and diesel prices right now, and Breakthrough does such great work to help out rural communities and this is one way you can help. It's not just the lactose free ones though, for those who do like their milk and their full sugar. They also have regular milk and a double shot option as well. So yeah, for the next month if you're going past a bp X conven venients and you feel like a little pick me up. Two great South Aussie companies and organizations in Flurio Milk Company and break Through Mental Health Research Foundation getting together to support our farmers, So get on board if you can. Today, I think I have to give the Turkey flat prize to Rocky and Durnham Court. We all had a family scenario over Easter. I think to nominate a turkey. So congratulations Rocky, turkey flat case of wine coming your way. Thanks for your calls and your texts today. I will talk to you at one o'clock tomorrow