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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another
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episode of Activation Podcast. It's me, your
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host, Dr. Nazif, back again with another amazing
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guest. Today, we have with us Heath Jones. So
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a little bit about... Heath is that he is an
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Australian health and fitness expert dedicated
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to helping people over 50 staying strong, independent,
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and live life to the fullest. As a founder of
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the Active and Ageless Fitness Center, a registered
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nurse, exercise scientist, a personal trainer,
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a former Army infant man, Heath brings the rare
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blend of clinical knowledge, grit, and real -life
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experience. experience to healthy aging. Hello,
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Heath. How are you doing this wonderful evening?
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Yeah, I'm very good. Thank you, Doc. Thank you.
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It's so wonderful to learn about you and the
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wonderful things that you have done, becoming
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from a health background, but also serving in
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the army. And now you're completely into your
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passion project that is helping people leading
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a healthy life. So can you tell me a little bit?
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about yourself to our audiences and what actually
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led your passion to be where you where you are
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in today yeah sure i think you've given that
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a pretty good intro already but i'll embellish
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upon that a little bit and say yeah as you um
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alluded to i was Probably when I first got out
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of school and university, registered nurse in
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emergency for many years. I then decided to join
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the military and followed in my big brother's
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footsteps and joined the Australian Army. I was
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in there for about four years, like many other
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people in the military, especially in the army,
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do get injured. I had to get medically discharged,
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unfortunately. That was the way that it was back
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then. I kind of went back into the medical field,
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but a little bit differently. I did quite a bit
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about skilling and ended up working as a remote
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medic, mostly on oil and gas facilities offshore,
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overseas. Did that for the next eight years or
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so. And I always had this. Concurrently, I became
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a trainer whilst working overseas. I always had
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a passion for health. And then, yeah, I kind
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of had this idea that I wanted to specifically
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target and train mature adults. I had this for
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years, this idea. really and so you're going
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to the gym space and see a lot of you know mature
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adults training good on them over there but a
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lot of times though it may have been doing incorrect
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exercises or probably in a gym where there's
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a lot of big meatheads there a lot of these people
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are looking a little intimidated and and i felt
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really sorry for them i was really proud of them
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that they're having having a go and doing the
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exercise as though they were probably had their
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first warning from their gp there's need to kind
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of loosen weight or increase your strength And
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they probably felt and looked a little bit lost.
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So, yeah, I had the idea of opening an overseas
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gym, but I still continued to work overseas on
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the oil and gas rigs for several more years.
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And then, yeah, with multiple, multiple injuries
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myself, back operate. the back operations now
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one being a spinal fusion i kind of there was
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a period of time where i was told by i suppose
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just say well -meaning medicos and doctors and
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health professionals really do anything for the
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rest of my life and that was a pretty depressing
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phase of my life i am extremely active i love
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surfing i love training i love boxing hiking,
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skateboarding, spearfishing, you know, all sorts
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of things. I love it. So to get told I kind of
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really couldn't do anything because of my injuries,
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I did actually heed that advice and did that
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for years and it didn't make me any better. It
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made me significantly worse physically and mentally,
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so -called protecting my body. And I suppose
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around that time, I kind of started thinking,
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well, I felt aged beyond my years purely because
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I wasn't. to exercise, which I believe is the
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panacea of more of a prolonged youth is being
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out there. So, yeah, I kind of decided to start
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a gym for over 50s. Unfortunately, that coincided
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with when the world took a completely different
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turn. And it was very challenging to start a
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gym during that time. But thankfully, I persisted.
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I thankfully had some really good people around.
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But, yeah, we've got three or four or three locations
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now soon to be four. And, you know, we're making
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a difference in a lot of people's lives and love
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what I do. um yeah so we're now yeah health and
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wellness and longevity experts in the field and
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absolutely love what we're doing and and thankfully
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there's a big push towards kind of mature adults
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business especially around the strength training
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um yeah it's awesome it's wonderful the work
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that you're doing and for sure you're making
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a difference in people's lives especially This
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is not common that having a dedicated gym for
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those who are over 50 and thinking about their
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health and wellness. You did mention you had
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suffered injury and then you had surgeries, but
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having those... you know, back steps. And now
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then you transformed yourself into a workaholic,
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into a fitness expert and enthusiast. It's such
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a, I'm sure the journey wasn't easy at all. You
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had to have a lot of resistance within yourself,
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a lot of motivations, really commendable work
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that you did. So just talk about you helping
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wonderful people who are aged over 50 to stay
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strong, independent and live their life to the
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fullest. That includes your gym. the active and
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ageless fitness center. Recognizing that you're
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working with people who are 50 years of old,
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how does your definition of strength actually
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adapt? Or how does that definition change we
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get older? Yeah, great question. So a lot of
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times when we're younger, we purely train for
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aesthetics. Many of us want to look good, okay?
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We get older, we train. We still want to look
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good. Everyone wants to look good at any age.
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But you're training for functionality. You're
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training for improvements in your activities
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of daily living, whether that's carrying heavy
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shopping bags, lifting up a small child, whether
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that's to help with certain chronic diseases
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you may have, whether that's osteopenia, the
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precursor to osteoporosis, whether that's diabetes,
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exercise and maintaining a healthy body weight,
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anything like that, any chronic diseases. Yeah,
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going back to what I was saying before, it really
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just gives people an extra lease on life and
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it makes life easier. I have a bit of a person
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saying that I say, I train hard and not everyone
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has to train as hard as I do, but I train myself
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to a high level in a controlled environment,
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meaning the gym, because it makes life easier.
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So that's the same for my clients and my members.
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You come into the gym, we train you to move better.
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to be able to lift heavier, to move faster, move
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with more confidence, more agility, better balance.
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So when you go and do whatever that may be in
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the real world, you can do it better. It's more
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enjoyable. You can do it with less pain. You
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can do it safer. Whether that is kind of, say,
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going out there playing golf or even hiking or
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playing tennis or swimming. Your strength to
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train with us, you get out there and do this
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kind of activities, we'll make it better for
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you. You've got to have the strength to be able
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to do that. There's also, like I said, the safety
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factor. I've had some members that have fallen
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out of cars and trying to get out of the car
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and they get caught up in the footwell and have
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managed to land on their feet, stand up and keep
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going, and they're fine. Had they not been doing
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the specific type of training that we prescribe
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in our programming, They may have not been so
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lucky. I think there was a period of time where
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the aging population just grew old gracefully.
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They just accepted it. And I think that's probably
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really been in the last, say, 50 years or so
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since we've kind of become forcefully a little
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bit lazier with the modern technology. We don't
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have to be as physical in our normal everyday
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life now. So people are just aging at a more
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rate because they're not needing to do lift up
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heavy items just to kind of, I don't know, go
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and fetch a pail of water or go and get food
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from a farm or whatever they may have done previously.
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Nowadays, movement is a choice. So we don't need
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to do a lot of these things, activities and strength
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-bearing or load -bearing activities to stay
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alive. We need to kind of almost force ourselves
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to go and train at a gym or do whatever we do
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now to live a better life. So, yeah, strength
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is so important. And thankfully now in the last,
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it's really been through people like yourself
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and these kind of really educational podcasts
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and some think tanks out there that are very
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smart in this field, we really are starting to
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see a shift towards the importance of strength
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at any age. And the amount of people that I've
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had that have come into us and said, oh, look,
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I'm here now, but I think I'm a little bit involved.
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Being enthusiastic, right? You can always do
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something. We can always, always do something.
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Improve your range of motion, improve your strength,
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improve your balance a little bit in all those
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fields. And it makes for a better life, a healthier
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and happier life for people as well. Yeah, yeah.
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That's so wonderful to know, Heath. And so my
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next question to you would be then, You are getting
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all these people who are enthusiastic about staying
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healthy and fit, even in the age of over 50.
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So what do you think, what are the mindset shifts
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that are most important for people who feels
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like it's too late to start over when they get
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to a certain age? Yeah. And look, I do understand.
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Look, there's been a lot of people that may have
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not done anything for decades since they're in
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school. That sometimes could be 20, 30, 40 years.
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The challenge of even getting over that kind
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of hurdle to come to a place like us to kind
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of say, look, I'm here now. I need to do something.
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My children are telling me to do something. I've
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got friends that exercise, my physio, my doctor,
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whoever. And I can sympathize with these people.
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It must be excruciatingly intimidating, especially
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going to a normal gym and doing what we do. But
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even coming to us, if you haven't done anything
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for many, many years. it's tough but the hardest
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part like we hear all the time with a lot of
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things is really is getting started and you know
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and not only that is if you've been inactive
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for decades in some instances you're not going
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to get overnight results you just have to be
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consistent you have to believe in yourself and
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it's We don't kind of train for six weeks then
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give up because we're feeling better. Human being
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and the human body is designed to do some form
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of movement every day. Now, it doesn't have to
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be a crazy intense workout session every day,
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but you need to do something. There's days like
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today, I want to stay inside with the fan on
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because it's extremely hot here in Sydney, Australia.
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It is really hot. I'll wait till it gets, I mean,
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I did actually exercise earlier this morning
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with some mates, but later on this afternoon
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when the sun goes down a little bit, I'll go.
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I live nice and close to the beach. So whatever
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that is for you, we can always do something.
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So yeah, thankfully, once again, I think the
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mindset is changing as well. We know the importance
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of movement. A lot of people that are still probably
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struggling to adapt that change in mindset. But
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thankfully, we do see that bit of a glacial shift.
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But it is happening, which is great. It's music
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to my ears because I love health and fitness
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and I know and I've seen the changes it has made
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in people's lives. I've seen so many people completely
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overhaul their lives in their 60s, in their 70s,
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you know, to see this shift and this, we've been
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able to assist in giving these people almost
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a new lease of life. It is pretty damn cool.
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That's why we do what we do. Wonderful to know.
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Thank you so much for sharing that, Heath. So
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my next question to you would be like, we know
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like to stay fit or to have that motivation.
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So we get the motivation and then we start that
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process of being healthy or doing some workout
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or even having a walk outside. Just as you mentioned,
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there are different ways. to stay fit on our
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different routines that we can follow someone
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like swimming, someone like walking. But I personally
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think it's more difficult once you start that
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to hold that in, to have that motivation and
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discipline to continue that. How do you think,
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how can discipline and consistency help rebuild
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confidence after setbacks or like after going
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into a certain thing that you want to do but
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losing motivation? So how does discipline and
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consistency help to prevent that? Look, discipline
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is a funny thing. We don't all have it and we
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need to kind of discipline almost ourselves in
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the way that we see best for ourselves. I mean,
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it might come easy for you. I'm not sure, but
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I know for me, it's pretty easy, but it helped
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me being in the military for years. Now, I think
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one thing with exercise, I don't think there's
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really too many times I wake up and say, yes,
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I'm off to exercise today. I'm going to train.
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I don't think anyone, there's some people, and
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maybe I do it sometimes, it's very rarely. I
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do what I do nowadays. I try to think about it.
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I just know it's part of my life. It's part of
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my routine. So that's the way I suppose I motivate
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myself or discipline myself. I get up, go and
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exercise. As soon as I start exercising, you
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kind of forget about the fact that you didn't
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want to do it in the first place. And then by
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the time you finish, you're like, I am not taking
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that back. I've done it. I've finished. I feel
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better. I feel alive. I feel shit. I feel that
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blood pumping, those endorphins, they're kicking
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around my body and I'm feeling good. So I think
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it is hard and even the kind of motivation, it's
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impossible to motivate anyone. You really need
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to motivate yourself. We can educate, we can
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provide a bit of inspiration, but motivation
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is inherently intrinsic. And look, I think you
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do, after a period of time, if you can self -discipline,
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if you're starting an exercise program, you haven't
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exercised for a long time, you start it. Understand
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the process. It takes a long time, especially
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if you're doing poor reading, inactivity, excessive
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sitting. It'll take you, let's just say, two
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months. I usually say to people their first six
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to eight weeks, it's not going to be fun. It's
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true. Yeah, your body's going to feel weird.
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I don't know. You're going to have different
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aches and pains and you're going to wake up with
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sore muscles. It takes a while for your body
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to adapt and evolve. It's a little bit different
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for everyone, but I usually say eight to ten
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weeks or thereabouts. You start to feel good.
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You're sleeping better. You're craving healthier
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food. Other people say to you, hey, you're looking
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good. Your skin's clearer. You've got a bit of
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a glow to you. Your posture is more upright.
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You get more confident. It just becomes kind
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of that real change. And that, when you start
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to feel like that, You don't want to go back
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to what you felt before because you feel so much
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better. So that in itself is we're remoting,
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evading ourselves. You've got to get over that
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hurdle. You've got to get to that point where
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you feel better. I like training with other people,
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with friends and mates. We keep each other accountable.
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So I think that's really good. Yeah. So I think
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that's a fantastic way to train. Look, it's more
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fun training with somebody else. You can have
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a bit of a chat in between sets or before and
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after the workout. But when you're accountable
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to each other, I know that there's times if I
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don't sleep well and I said to my mate, let's
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train at six in the morning, I will be there
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because I do not want to let a mate down. If
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I was training by myself that morning and I didn't
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sleep well, I'd be like, okay, maybe I'll stay
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in bed for another hour, pull the covers over
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and hit snooze. But yeah, I think it's a big
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thing to help us keep disciplined as well. Masters
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are really good. And just understand, like I
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said before, is activity and movement is something
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that we're designed to do. So move your body
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and your future self will definitely thank you
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for it. For sure. Thank you so much for sharing
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that, Heath, that wonderful words of wisdom from
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your own experience and the things that you've
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seen working with your clients. How do you think
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resilience play a role in staying active and
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engaged in the later part of the life? Another
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good one. So resilience is something that we
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all face adversity, whether it's long -term or
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more, we'll just say chronic adversity, whether
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it's around illness or illness with ourselves
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or with our family, friends, whether that's some
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type of adversity with our career, our business,
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finances, where we geographically are located.
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But then we have certain... things that happen
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to us on a daily basis. We get caught in traffic.
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We get, I don't know, a bill that's unexpected
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or, I don't know, we may have been treated rudely
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or unfairly, whatever that may be. And I think
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resilience is, it's almost having an external
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voice looked out upon you and say, you're not
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alone. You'll get over this. Everyone goes through
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it. And I think it's really hard when we're in
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that kind of state. Where we, you know, adversity,
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sometimes it's a little bit hard to see the light
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at the end of the tunnel. We get this almost
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like a feeling that we're going to be like in
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this particular phase forever, whether we're
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injured or unwell or we've lost a lot of our
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money. Resilience is the ability to kind of not
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only move forward, but move forward with purpose
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and move forward and use that as a bit of an
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educational process, whatever that. may have
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happened and yeah we're not going to kind of
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we just say get over it because we learn from
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that and we don't want to i think we want to
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use whatever has happened to us as either a motivating
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factor either an educational piece kind of learn
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from it we all there's not a person in the world
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that has done a few uh laps around the sun that
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hasn't faced some type of challenge if they haven't
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well lucky them but well actually not lucky then
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because i think some of the biggest setbacks
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and challenges that i've had in my life whether
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that's been in career whether that's been financial
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my health my back i don't think i'd be sitting
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here now talking to you doc if i hadn't had my
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multiple back injuries and and rations because
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that was one of the motivating factors for me
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to start a gym for over 50s and then kind of
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really discover my passion. Like I said, I do
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all sorts of crazy activities now. I was heli
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-biking in New Zealand a few weeks back. We were
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jumping out of helicopters on mountain bikes,
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riding down the hill and I want people out there,
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and they don't need to be doing heli -biking
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or surfing big waves, but they don't need to
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be doing that. But when I was, if you'd have
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seen me 10 years ago and I was out of shape and
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depressed and in pain every single day, I could
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see the light at the end of the tunnel. Thankfully,
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There were some people out there that shone the
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light on me to a certain extent. But really,
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you've got to get yourself out of that predicament
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or at least improve the situation that you're
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in. And it's resilience. Yeah, we do build up
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the emotional calluses in life that you might
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have heard David Goggins. I think he coined that
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phase, the emotional calluses. But yeah, they
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use them as a learning tool. we all have it we
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all face adversity and learn from it yeah that's
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so true that's so true thank you so much for
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sharing those perspectives i wanted to know a
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bit about your active and ageless fitness center
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so what kind of services do you provide who is
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that for can you speak to little bit about that
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to our audiences yeah sure so yeah we are specifically
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for over 50s um we do group classes different
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levels of group classes we don't When we do an
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initial consult on a prospective member, we don't
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just kind of throw them into classes as opposed
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to we care for them a little bit more and nurture
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them through a process by doing certain assessments
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on them. They give us an indication of what level
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they are with their strength, their cardiovascular
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fitness and endurance, their mobility. And then
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we kind of give them some guidance around what
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type of classes we think would be suitable for
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them, for their goals and what we think that
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they need to improve upon. Yeah. active in ages,
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even kind of moving forward. We are a gym. We
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do have group classes, but I suppose we like
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to be a little bit more involved in their journey
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than just provide exercise classes. We do events
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every kind of four months. We bring in experts
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from different fields, different kind of healthy
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aging experts and do a really fun night. We get
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these people to educate and inspire all our members.
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Yeah, we try to provide a bit of a... community
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feel to the gyms as well because a lot of our
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members are retired and they don't have that
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same kind of camaraderie that they may have in
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the workplace so it's really sweet i see them
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nearly every day that they're on facebook and
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they're all kind of out having dinner with each
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other and going for walks and that with each
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other and it's it's been It almost brings a tear
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to my eye each time I do see that because we've
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been a big part of these people coming together.
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And, you know, they've come together with a common
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goal. The common goal is to live life to the
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fullest at any age. So that's why we've thankfully
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been a bit of a vehicle in allowing them to do
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that. That's so wonderful. And thank you so much
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for explaining that work. So dear listeners,
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if you were, I know a lot of my listeners are
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coming from Australia. So if you want to indeed
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check out Active and Ageless fitness program,
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so please feel free to visit activeandageless
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.com .au. I'll put the link in the description
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of the podcast and YouTube. Thank you so much.
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I really appreciate you sharing your wonderful
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words of wisdom and to show our listeners that
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age is just a number. Fitness can definitely
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also be an active part of a person who is even
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over the age of 50. And the example of the resilience
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that you have provided, I'm sure my audiences
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who are within that age group would really find
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that helpful. And I hope they do check out your
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resources, dear listeners. If you do want to
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know more about Heath Jones feel free to visit
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their website but also you can visit activeactionlab
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.com and just type in Heath Jones names h -e
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-a -t -h space j -o -n -e -s and you will see
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his web page coming in you will get the information
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his links to the website and everything if you
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do have any questions feel free to reach out
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to him thank you so much Heath I really really
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appreciate your time and commitment to join this
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podcast have a wonderful day and I'm sure I'll
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connect with you again soon mate yeah thank you
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i love telling my story and if i've inspired
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one extra person out there to get their body
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moving you are stronger you're more capable and
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you are more resilient than what you think for
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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another
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episode of Activation Podcast. It's me, your
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host, Dr. Nazif, back again with another amazing
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guest. Today, we have with us Heath Jones. So
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a little bit about... Heath is that he is an
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Australian health and fitness expert dedicated
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to helping people over 50 staying strong, independent,
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and live life to the fullest. As a founder of
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the Active and Ageless Fitness Center, a registered
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nurse, exercise scientist, a personal trainer,
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a former Army infant man, Heath brings the rare
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blend of clinical knowledge, grit, and real -life
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experience. experience to healthy aging. Hello,
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Heath. How are you doing this wonderful evening?
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Yeah, I'm very good. Thank you, Doc. Thank you.
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It's so wonderful to learn about you and the
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wonderful things that you have done, becoming
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from a health background, but also serving in
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the army. And now you're completely into your
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passion project that is helping people leading
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a healthy life. So can you tell me a little bit?
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about yourself to our audiences and what actually
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led your passion to be where you where you are
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in today yeah sure i think you've given that
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a pretty good intro already but i'll embellish
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upon that a little bit and say yeah as you um
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alluded to i was Probably when I first got out
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of school and university, registered nurse in
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emergency for many years. I then decided to join
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the military and followed in my big brother's
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footsteps and joined the Australian Army. I was
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in there for about four years, like many other
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people in the military, especially in the army,
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do get injured. I had to get medically discharged,
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unfortunately. That was the way that it was back
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then. I kind of went back into the medical field,
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but a little bit differently. I did quite a bit
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about skilling and ended up working as a remote
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medic, mostly on oil and gas facilities offshore,
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overseas. Did that for the next eight years or
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so. And I always had this. Concurrently, I became
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a trainer whilst working overseas. I always had
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a passion for health. And then, yeah, I kind
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of had this idea that I wanted to specifically
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target and train mature adults. I had this for
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years, this idea. really and so you're going
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to the gym space and see a lot of you know mature
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adults training good on them over there but a
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lot of times though it may have been doing incorrect
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exercises or probably in a gym where there's
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a lot of big meatheads there a lot of these people
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are looking a little intimidated and and i felt
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really sorry for them i was really proud of them
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that they're having having a go and doing the
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exercise as though they were probably had their
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first warning from their gp there's need to kind
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of loosen weight or increase your strength And
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they probably felt and looked a little bit lost.
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So, yeah, I had the idea of opening an overseas
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gym, but I still continued to work overseas on
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the oil and gas rigs for several more years.
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And then, yeah, with multiple, multiple injuries
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myself, back operate. the back operations now
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one being a spinal fusion i kind of there was
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a period of time where i was told by i suppose
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just say well -meaning medicos and doctors and
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health professionals really do anything for the
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rest of my life and that was a pretty depressing
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phase of my life i am extremely active i love
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surfing i love training i love boxing hiking,
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skateboarding, spearfishing, you know, all sorts
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of things. I love it. So to get told I kind of
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really couldn't do anything because of my injuries,
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I did actually heed that advice and did that
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for years and it didn't make me any better. It
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made me significantly worse physically and mentally,
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so -called protecting my body. And I suppose
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around that time, I kind of started thinking,
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well, I felt aged beyond my years purely because
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I wasn't. to exercise, which I believe is the
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panacea of more of a prolonged youth is being
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out there. So, yeah, I kind of decided to start
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a gym for over 50s. Unfortunately, that coincided
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with when the world took a completely different
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turn. And it was very challenging to start a
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gym during that time. But thankfully, I persisted.
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I thankfully had some really good people around.
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But, yeah, we've got three or four or three locations
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now soon to be four. And, you know, we're making
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a difference in a lot of people's lives and love
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what I do. um yeah so we're now yeah health and
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wellness and longevity experts in the field and
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absolutely love what we're doing and and thankfully
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there's a big push towards kind of mature adults
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business especially around the strength training
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um yeah it's awesome it's wonderful the work
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that you're doing and for sure you're making
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a difference in people's lives especially This
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is not common that having a dedicated gym for
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those who are over 50 and thinking about their
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health and wellness. You did mention you had
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suffered injury and then you had surgeries, but
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having those... you know, back steps. And now
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then you transformed yourself into a workaholic,
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into a fitness expert and enthusiast. It's such
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a, I'm sure the journey wasn't easy at all. You
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had to have a lot of resistance within yourself,
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a lot of motivations, really commendable work
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that you did. So just talk about you helping
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wonderful people who are aged over 50 to stay
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strong, independent and live their life to the
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fullest. That includes your gym. the active and
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ageless fitness center. Recognizing that you're
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working with people who are 50 years of old,
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how does your definition of strength actually
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adapt? Or how does that definition change we
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get older? Yeah, great question. So a lot of
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times when we're younger, we purely train for
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aesthetics. Many of us want to look good, okay?
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We get older, we train. We still want to look
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good. Everyone wants to look good at any age.
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But you're training for functionality. You're
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training for improvements in your activities
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of daily living, whether that's carrying heavy
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shopping bags, lifting up a small child, whether
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that's to help with certain chronic diseases
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you may have, whether that's osteopenia, the
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precursor to osteoporosis, whether that's diabetes,
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exercise and maintaining a healthy body weight,
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anything like that, any chronic diseases. Yeah,
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going back to what I was saying before, it really
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just gives people an extra lease on life and
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it makes life easier. I have a bit of a person
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saying that I say, I train hard and not everyone
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has to train as hard as I do, but I train myself
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to a high level in a controlled environment,
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meaning the gym, because it makes life easier.
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So that's the same for my clients and my members.
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You come into the gym, we train you to move better.
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to be able to lift heavier, to move faster, move
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with more confidence, more agility, better balance.
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So when you go and do whatever that may be in
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the real world, you can do it better. It's more
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enjoyable. You can do it with less pain. You
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can do it safer. Whether that is kind of, say,
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going out there playing golf or even hiking or
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playing tennis or swimming. Your strength to
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train with us, you get out there and do this
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kind of activities, we'll make it better for
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you. You've got to have the strength to be able
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to do that. There's also, like I said, the safety
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factor. I've had some members that have fallen
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out of cars and trying to get out of the car
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and they get caught up in the footwell and have
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managed to land on their feet, stand up and keep
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going, and they're fine. Had they not been doing
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the specific type of training that we prescribe
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in our programming, They may have not been so
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lucky. I think there was a period of time where
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the aging population just grew old gracefully.
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They just accepted it. And I think that's probably
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really been in the last, say, 50 years or so
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since we've kind of become forcefully a little
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bit lazier with the modern technology. We don't
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have to be as physical in our normal everyday
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life now. So people are just aging at a more
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rate because they're not needing to do lift up
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heavy items just to kind of, I don't know, go
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and fetch a pail of water or go and get food
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from a farm or whatever they may have done previously.
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Nowadays, movement is a choice. So we don't need
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to do a lot of these things, activities and strength
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-bearing or load -bearing activities to stay
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alive. We need to kind of almost force ourselves
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to go and train at a gym or do whatever we do
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now to live a better life. So, yeah, strength
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is so important. And thankfully now in the last,
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it's really been through people like yourself
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and these kind of really educational podcasts
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and some think tanks out there that are very
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smart in this field, we really are starting to
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see a shift towards the importance of strength
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at any age. And the amount of people that I've
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had that have come into us and said, oh, look,
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I'm here now, but I think I'm a little bit involved.
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Being enthusiastic, right? You can always do
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something. We can always, always do something.
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Improve your range of motion, improve your strength,
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improve your balance a little bit in all those
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fields. And it makes for a better life, a healthier
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and happier life for people as well. Yeah, yeah.
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That's so wonderful to know, Heath. And so my
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next question to you would be then, You are getting
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all these people who are enthusiastic about staying
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healthy and fit, even in the age of over 50.
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So what do you think, what are the mindset shifts
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that are most important for people who feels
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like it's too late to start over when they get
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to a certain age? Yeah. And look, I do understand.
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Look, there's been a lot of people that may have
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not done anything for decades since they're in
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school. That sometimes could be 20, 30, 40 years.
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The challenge of even getting over that kind
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of hurdle to come to a place like us to kind
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of say, look, I'm here now. I need to do something.
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My children are telling me to do something. I've
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got friends that exercise, my physio, my doctor,
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whoever. And I can sympathize with these people.
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It must be excruciatingly intimidating, especially
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going to a normal gym and doing what we do. But
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even coming to us, if you haven't done anything
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for many, many years. it's tough but the hardest
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part like we hear all the time with a lot of
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things is really is getting started and you know
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and not only that is if you've been inactive
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for decades in some instances you're not going
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to get overnight results you just have to be
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consistent you have to believe in yourself and
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it's We don't kind of train for six weeks then
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give up because we're feeling better. Human being
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and the human body is designed to do some form
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of movement every day. Now, it doesn't have to
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be a crazy intense workout session every day,
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but you need to do something. There's days like
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today, I want to stay inside with the fan on
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because it's extremely hot here in Sydney, Australia.
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It is really hot. I'll wait till it gets, I mean,
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I did actually exercise earlier this morning
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with some mates, but later on this afternoon
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when the sun goes down a little bit, I'll go.
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I live nice and close to the beach. So whatever
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that is for you, we can always do something.
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So yeah, thankfully, once again, I think the
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mindset is changing as well. We know the importance
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of movement. A lot of people that are still probably
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struggling to adapt that change in mindset. But
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thankfully, we do see that bit of a glacial shift.
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But it is happening, which is great. It's music
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to my ears because I love health and fitness
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and I know and I've seen the changes it has made
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in people's lives. I've seen so many people completely
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overhaul their lives in their 60s, in their 70s,
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you know, to see this shift and this, we've been
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able to assist in giving these people almost
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a new lease of life. It is pretty damn cool.
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That's why we do what we do. Wonderful to know.
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Thank you so much for sharing that, Heath. So
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my next question to you would be like, we know
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like to stay fit or to have that motivation.
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So we get the motivation and then we start that
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process of being healthy or doing some workout
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or even having a walk outside. Just as you mentioned,
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there are different ways. to stay fit on our
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different routines that we can follow someone
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like swimming, someone like walking. But I personally
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think it's more difficult once you start that
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to hold that in, to have that motivation and
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discipline to continue that. How do you think,
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how can discipline and consistency help rebuild
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confidence after setbacks or like after going
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into a certain thing that you want to do but
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losing motivation? So how does discipline and
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consistency help to prevent that? Look, discipline
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is a funny thing. We don't all have it and we
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need to kind of discipline almost ourselves in
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the way that we see best for ourselves. I mean,
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it might come easy for you. I'm not sure, but
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I know for me, it's pretty easy, but it helped
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me being in the military for years. Now, I think
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one thing with exercise, I don't think there's
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really too many times I wake up and say, yes,
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I'm off to exercise today. I'm going to train.
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I don't think anyone, there's some people, and
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maybe I do it sometimes, it's very rarely. I
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do what I do nowadays. I try to think about it.
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I just know it's part of my life. It's part of
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my routine. So that's the way I suppose I motivate
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myself or discipline myself. I get up, go and
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exercise. As soon as I start exercising, you
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kind of forget about the fact that you didn't
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want to do it in the first place. And then by
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the time you finish, you're like, I am not taking
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that back. I've done it. I've finished. I feel
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better. I feel alive. I feel shit. I feel that
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blood pumping, those endorphins, they're kicking
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around my body and I'm feeling good. So I think
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it is hard and even the kind of motivation, it's
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impossible to motivate anyone. You really need
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to motivate yourself. We can educate, we can
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provide a bit of inspiration, but motivation
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is inherently intrinsic. And look, I think you
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do, after a period of time, if you can self -discipline,
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if you're starting an exercise program, you haven't
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exercised for a long time, you start it. Understand
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the process. It takes a long time, especially
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if you're doing poor reading, inactivity, excessive
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sitting. It'll take you, let's just say, two
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months. I usually say to people their first six
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to eight weeks, it's not going to be fun. It's
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true. Yeah, your body's going to feel weird.
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I don't know. You're going to have different
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aches and pains and you're going to wake up with
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sore muscles. It takes a while for your body
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to adapt and evolve. It's a little bit different
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for everyone, but I usually say eight to ten
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weeks or thereabouts. You start to feel good.
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You're sleeping better. You're craving healthier
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food. Other people say to you, hey, you're looking
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good. Your skin's clearer. You've got a bit of
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a glow to you. Your posture is more upright.
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You get more confident. It just becomes kind
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of that real change. And that, when you start
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to feel like that, You don't want to go back
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to what you felt before because you feel so much
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better. So that in itself is we're remoting,
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evading ourselves. You've got to get over that
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hurdle. You've got to get to that point where
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you feel better. I like training with other people,
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with friends and mates. We keep each other accountable.
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So I think that's really good. Yeah. So I think
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that's a fantastic way to train. Look, it's more
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fun training with somebody else. You can have
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a bit of a chat in between sets or before and
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after the workout. But when you're accountable
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to each other, I know that there's times if I
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don't sleep well and I said to my mate, let's
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train at six in the morning, I will be there
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because I do not want to let a mate down. If
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I was training by myself that morning and I didn't
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sleep well, I'd be like, okay, maybe I'll stay
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in bed for another hour, pull the covers over
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and hit snooze. But yeah, I think it's a big
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thing to help us keep disciplined as well. Masters
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are really good. And just understand, like I
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said before, is activity and movement is something
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that we're designed to do. So move your body
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and your future self will definitely thank you
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for it. For sure. Thank you so much for sharing
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that, Heath, that wonderful words of wisdom from
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your own experience and the things that you've
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seen working with your clients. How do you think
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resilience play a role in staying active and
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engaged in the later part of the life? Another
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good one. So resilience is something that we
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all face adversity, whether it's long -term or
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more, we'll just say chronic adversity, whether
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it's around illness or illness with ourselves
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or with our family, friends, whether that's some
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type of adversity with our career, our business,
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finances, where we geographically are located.
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But then we have certain... things that happen
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to us on a daily basis. We get caught in traffic.
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We get, I don't know, a bill that's unexpected
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or, I don't know, we may have been treated rudely
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or unfairly, whatever that may be. And I think
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resilience is, it's almost having an external
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voice looked out upon you and say, you're not
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alone. You'll get over this. Everyone goes through
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it. And I think it's really hard when we're in
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that kind of state. Where we, you know, adversity,
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sometimes it's a little bit hard to see the light
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at the end of the tunnel. We get this almost
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like a feeling that we're going to be like in
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this particular phase forever, whether we're
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injured or unwell or we've lost a lot of our
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money. Resilience is the ability to kind of not
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only move forward, but move forward with purpose
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and move forward and use that as a bit of an
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educational process, whatever that. may have
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happened and yeah we're not going to kind of
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we just say get over it because we learn from
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that and we don't want to i think we want to
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use whatever has happened to us as either a motivating
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factor either an educational piece kind of learn
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from it we all there's not a person in the world
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that has done a few uh laps around the sun that
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hasn't faced some type of challenge if they haven't
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well lucky them but well actually not lucky then
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because i think some of the biggest setbacks
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and challenges that i've had in my life whether
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that's been in career whether that's been financial
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my health my back i don't think i'd be sitting
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here now talking to you doc if i hadn't had my
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multiple back injuries and and rations because
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that was one of the motivating factors for me
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to start a gym for over 50s and then kind of
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really discover my passion. Like I said, I do
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all sorts of crazy activities now. I was heli
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-biking in New Zealand a few weeks back. We were
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jumping out of helicopters on mountain bikes,
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riding down the hill and I want people out there,
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and they don't need to be doing heli -biking
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or surfing big waves, but they don't need to
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be doing that. But when I was, if you'd have
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seen me 10 years ago and I was out of shape and
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depressed and in pain every single day, I could
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see the light at the end of the tunnel. Thankfully,
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There were some people out there that shone the
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light on me to a certain extent. But really,
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you've got to get yourself out of that predicament
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or at least improve the situation that you're
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in. And it's resilience. Yeah, we do build up
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the emotional calluses in life that you might
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have heard David Goggins. I think he coined that
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phase, the emotional calluses. But yeah, they
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use them as a learning tool. we all have it we
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all face adversity and learn from it yeah that's
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so true that's so true thank you so much for
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sharing those perspectives i wanted to know a
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bit about your active and ageless fitness center
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so what kind of services do you provide who is
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that for can you speak to little bit about that
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to our audiences yeah sure so yeah we are specifically
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for over 50s um we do group classes different
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levels of group classes we don't When we do an
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initial consult on a prospective member, we don't
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just kind of throw them into classes as opposed
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to we care for them a little bit more and nurture
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them through a process by doing certain assessments
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on them. They give us an indication of what level
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they are with their strength, their cardiovascular
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fitness and endurance, their mobility. And then
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we kind of give them some guidance around what
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type of classes we think would be suitable for
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them, for their goals and what we think that
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they need to improve upon. Yeah. active in ages,
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even kind of moving forward. We are a gym. We
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do have group classes, but I suppose we like
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to be a little bit more involved in their journey
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than just provide exercise classes. We do events
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every kind of four months. We bring in experts
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from different fields, different kind of healthy
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aging experts and do a really fun night. We get
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these people to educate and inspire all our members.
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Yeah, we try to provide a bit of a... community
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feel to the gyms as well because a lot of our
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members are retired and they don't have that
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same kind of camaraderie that they may have in
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the workplace so it's really sweet i see them
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nearly every day that they're on facebook and
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they're all kind of out having dinner with each
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other and going for walks and that with each
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other and it's it's been It almost brings a tear
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to my eye each time I do see that because we've
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been a big part of these people coming together.
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And, you know, they've come together with a common
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goal. The common goal is to live life to the
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fullest at any age. So that's why we've thankfully
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been a bit of a vehicle in allowing them to do
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that. That's so wonderful. And thank you so much
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for explaining that work. So dear listeners,
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if you were, I know a lot of my listeners are
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coming from Australia. So if you want to indeed
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check out Active and Ageless fitness program,
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so please feel free to visit activeandageless
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.com .au. I'll put the link in the description
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of the podcast and YouTube. Thank you so much.
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I really appreciate you sharing your wonderful
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words of wisdom and to show our listeners that
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age is just a number. Fitness can definitely
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also be an active part of a person who is even
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over the age of 50. And the example of the resilience
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that you have provided, I'm sure my audiences
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who are within that age group would really find
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that helpful. And I hope they do check out your
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resources, dear listeners. If you do want to
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know more about Heath Jones feel free to visit
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their website but also you can visit activeactionlab
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.com and just type in Heath Jones names h -e
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-a -t -h space j -o -n -e -s and you will see
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his web page coming in you will get the information
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his links to the website and everything if you
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do have any questions feel free to reach out
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to him thank you so much Heath I really really
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appreciate your time and commitment to join this
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podcast have a wonderful day and I'm sure I'll
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connect with you again soon mate yeah thank you
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i love telling my story and if i've inspired
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one extra person out there to get their body
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moving you are stronger you're more capable and
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you are more resilient than what you think for
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sure dear listeners you were listening to me
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