Larry Wheels with John Gaglione | The Power of Resilience

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All right, looks like we're running here.
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Welcome.
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I've got Larry Wheels and John gagleone with me this morning.
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We're recording on a Sunday and right after the time change,
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so nobody's body knows what time it is right now.
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That's that's clear. That's clear. How are you guys doing today?
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I'm doing all right. I'm still in Russia. I fly back.
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I start my journey back home tomorrow with a stop
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in Istanbul for a day and then finally missed and
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bolt lax.
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Wow, I had no idea you were in Russia.
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That's great, all the different time zones.
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Yeah, but what time is it there? It's ten o'clock
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on the on the Pacific Pacific daylight time. Now what
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time is it there?
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It's nine pm here?
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Nine pm? Oh my goodness. Yeah. And John is in
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what you're in the Eastern daylight zone.
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Yeah, so that's one.
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Even since moving, you know, I still never got out
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of that time zone, so stuck in the same time zone.
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But yeah, like we had we had a like I said,
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late late night as well. But it'll be good energy.
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It's good to have, like, you know, it's kind of funny.
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I think like part of when we all first got together.
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It was kind of I think a big breaking point
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for like all of us in our kind of power
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Loopton careers, if you will, if that's such a thing.
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So it's just cool to like, you know, get everyone
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kind of back together and hop on and catch up.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure, it was. We're talking about it.
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I mean, you guys were on the old podcast like
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in twenty sixteen ish, So I think it was like
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maybe before Larry's world record maybe.
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I think I think I've kind of for people that
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are watching the video after the I'm wearing his shirt.
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So I think the first time after the two forty
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two record was I think when we kind of all
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got together. I think, or it might have been. Well,
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so I don't know if we talked about this last
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time or not. So Larry had the world record for
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like about zero point two seconds, and then Andrew Herbert
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like and then they both ended up missing their last deadlift,
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so Andrew Herbert had it for right, yeah, eight weeks
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or so, and then we kind of went back to
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the you know, the record breakers meet at a combat
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sports academy and then we you know, Larry retook it
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back and kind of upped it by like a big
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margin and kind of stood. That record stood for quite
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quite a while. And like I said, if not for
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some accidents at the at the current US Open, it
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would have been you know, set even higher. You know,
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you know, I guess we could all like talk a
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little smack and whatever, but but Larry was on pace
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to kind of up it more, and then we kind
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of decided that he kind of out grew the two
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forty twos. But yeah, that was kind of the first
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the first of many runs at many world It was
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a good, like like a good five year like kind
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of run at like world records and different weight classes,
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and that was kind of like the start of his
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kind of powerlifting rain if if you will, you know.
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So, Yeah, yeah, it was a different time in lifting
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for sure. I mean we I think that we discussed
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the last time that that people lifted more and cruise
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like you had people around you, even if you were
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at a certain point, even if you were a raw lifter,
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and being lifting in gear pretty much required having people
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around you because you had to get in and out
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of the stuff. I mean, it was it was challenging.
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You didn't have the help and didn't have the spotters,
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and you were, you know, handling weights that you would
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handle raw. It's a it was a whole thing. It was.
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It was just this that flavor of the sport demanded
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having people around you for the most part, and just
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it was a different time. I don't know now it
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is it's hard to put together a crew. I see
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and like I own a jim and I see people lifting,
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but they come in like when they have time and
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not not Okay, I'm meeting so and so and so
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and so and so and so, and we're we're going
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to lift together on the same bar, We're going to
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change plates in between, we're gonna do all that stuff.
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And now it's like it's a little bit a little
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bit of a lone ranger situation for most of them.
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Yeah, Lar, do you have any like memories of when
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we kind of first started training together at in Farming?
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Do I know, even our first like workout together there
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was like multiple seven hundred pound deadlifters in the room,
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which was so what was that kind of like for
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you at just being nineteen year Because I'm sure you,
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even as strong as you were, you probably never seen
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or trained with guys like that in that type of environment.
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So what was that like for you?
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Just kind of starting out kind of a young young
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man and just trying to, you know, find his way.
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Sure, So it was a mutual friend of ours, Kevin Oak,
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that introduced me to John. We went out there there
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for a delive party and I was spoiled at that
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time because I always had a work up part in it.
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Since my first day in the gym. I always had
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a strong support from a community. Everyone wherever I was
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training was very keen on helping me out and wanted
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me to succeed. And oddly enough, now I'm thirty, have
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my own gym. I've never went longer and it did
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more training sessions alone in my life, and it's definitely
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been a compromised to my training and my ambition. And
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it's something that I took for granted at that time,
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something I thought was just normal and I didn't realize
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how I shield the community I had was And now
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I'm more fired up than ever to bring that back.
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Yeah, I can understand that. Like now, I work out
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alone because I'm not doing anything that anybody's going to
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be interested in. I'm not trying to powerlift, I'm not
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doing competition lifts for the most part, you know, so
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I can handle it and I got you know, I'm
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managing my time or whatever. But I do miss those days,
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and especially I miss, uh sort of the challenge you know,
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of of not necessarily keeping up with people, but like
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like keeping her just the same distance I guess between
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between myself and somebody else and maybe just like inching
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up on a little I was so I was so
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much older and just not like a not at all
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a competitive lifter before I before I started. I mean
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it was over forty when I when I started lifting,
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And I don't necessarily recommend people waiting that long, but
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uh yeah, I mean you were you were young when
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you got into this this uh this whole sport. Like
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what question I have? We were I think we talked
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about this last time, John, that like it is difficult
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for a young person to sustain a career in powerlifting
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or I mean a lot of a lot of sports,
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but it's it's difficult for someone who has early success
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to keep going because the improvements become like incremental over time,
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and the injuries mount, you know for sure, because if
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you're pushing it like hard all the way if you
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could tell yourself something about those conditions when you first started,
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if you could like speak to younger Larry, like, what
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would you tell him?
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I would tell younger Larry what I tell everybody that
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asked me for advice I expose or at the gym
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or in passing to just stick to the program. The
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only time I ever got injured or didn't peak properly
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was when I went off program for attention because the
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crew was hyping me up because I was impulsive. Powerlifting
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is a game of restraint. It takes immense amount of
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self control. When you walk in the gym, you feel
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like Superman. Everything feels extra light, and you have to
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tell yourself, no, I can't push my limits today. And
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pushing the limits is the fun part. And I believe
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that's why many people love bodybuilding, because you can go
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into a bodybuilding workout through set to ten, twenty thirty
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to failure and really push your limit every workout still
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get progress. But you do then powerlifting, you're seeing us
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won't recover. Your train will be compromised, right Like, you
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have to stick to the program and hold yourself back
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when you don't want to. And I've struggled with that
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since day one.
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Yeah, I could remember a time curious, Larry, what if
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you could pinpoint it? But like there was definitely like
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the early days where maybe listening was was not really happening,
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and I know you bombed out of a few meets,
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but then when you got that invite to boss the bosses,
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I feel like a switch kind of flipped. And then
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so I don't know if that was the kind of
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the defining moment, but can you remember, like when do
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you decide okay, like maybe I should you know, start
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like kind of you know, being a little bit more compliant,
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communicating a little bit better, maybe you know, listening to coach.
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You know what was that kind of like? And then
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it was there any kind of moment you can kind
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of remember where you're like, Okay, let me give this
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a shot and.
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Then you know kind of see what happens.
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Well, bombing out of those meets is what really sparked
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that fire for me to take this more seriously and
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understand the importance of good communication with you, John, and
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how just a strong discuss with that feeling of damn,
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I didn't even get to finish the meet, and I
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spent so many weeks or whatever. It was months preparing
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for this day and I couldn't even finish, you know.
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So there's no worse feeling for a power lepter than that, right,
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bombing out, not even making it to the end. And
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I never wanted to feel that way again.
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Having bombed in a few meets myself, usually on the
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squad always geared just not and depth, always on depth,
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you know, just like you just can't get down to
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a certain point. And I think that you know, part
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of part of that was was you know, the weight
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that you needed to gain to be competitive in the
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in the equipment, and then the way you had to
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cut to make weight for the meat, and then what
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you know, when it comes back on, where does it
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go right? And and so your stuff fits differently and
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you can't can't get down. But I feel like you
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were an extension of a time where like uh Stan Efforting,
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you know, kind of took the took the stage in
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two thousand and nine ish twenty ten and and was
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very strong obviously, but was also you know, had aesthetics
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to his physique where he was you know, Dan Green
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another one who who always you know, looked more like
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a bodybuilder than a powerlifter that a traditional powerlifter at
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that time, Well, what did you always have like a
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dual drive about how you looked at and and how
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how strong you were or was it was it one
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and then the other or.
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Yeah. I always wanted to maintain, maintain some level of
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a build their aesthetic because I knew that's what would
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make me stand out from all the other powerlifters. And
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that's how it can make a steak for myself in
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the sport, besides taking with records, and I understood that
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to try and make a business out of it, it
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would be easier, you know, if I look the part.
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You know, if I had APP, if I had APS
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and I was able to look I was lifting, it
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would be easier to stand out. So when I was
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actively competing, although I did frequently have cheat meals and
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slip up on my diet, it was pretty clean. I
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was having chicken bee fish with lots of rice, and
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that was my diet for a long time. Especially when
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I turn off that switch and I said, okay, now
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it's time to lock in and get ready for competition,
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all those bad habits usually went away. It's only when
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I was in the off season and I'm not actively
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preparing for a goal. Did I just have no motivation
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to eat clean, to train hard, to be smart, and
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bad habits get the best of me, and it's time
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to prepare for competition that switches on and down.
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Then I'm amazed at you know, our our gym has
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kind of a majority of younger, sort of twenties thirties
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USA pl or Powerlifting America lifters. And because they don't
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have the luxury of twenty four our weigh ins and
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and and all, their their weight is pretty consistent all
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the time, and they all look jacked. They don't necessarily
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look like bodybuilders, but they look they all look fit,
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they all have abs. It's it's it's disgusting, really, it's
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it's like, how are you? You know? And then you
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remember that they were young, and that they they never
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really they never really put on those extra extra pounds.
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And we have one competitor who who dropped a weight
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class in the last year or so, and he didn't
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look bad before, and now he's just shredded all the time.
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And and.
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You know, some of them start to get the you know, like,
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oh maybe I could compete in bodybuilding, and then you know,
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that's that's a totally different experience for them. It's not
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you know, they're not chasing chasing numbers the same way
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that they are chasing what happens in the mirror. So yeah,
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it's just it's an interesting contrast to to when I started,
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you know, twenty years ago.
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I think you mentioned Stan.
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I think he was definitely instrumental in both of our
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kind of learnings of nutrition, especially you know, obviously vertical
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diet got really popular used by a lot of strength athletes,
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and we definitely took notes learned a lot from him.
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And what's really interesting as well, you know, obviously Eric
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kllilla Bridge is really famous. You know his that was
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a three o eight record that Larry Brooke, but some
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people may not know the two forty two record that
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was broken was originally obviously Andrew Herbert. Boy he's been
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doing to bodybuilding as well, but the original record was
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John Rivers. And John Rivers actually just turned pro with
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well he's out in Virginia now, so we actually got
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to So it's just kind of funny to seeing all
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these guys come full circle. So there definitely is like
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a little bit more crossover that I think we're seeing
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with some of these like high level powerlifters sometimes either
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transitioning over full time or kind of dabbling a little
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bit in both. And obviously Stan was like the most
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you know, famous example, and I think before then, you know,
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we got our information, like you know, we had the
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Oreo Challenge, the.
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Dave Tate Dave Tate's Oreo Challenge, and then you know,
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like J. M.
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Blakely, like put alve oyl on pizza and you know,
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you know that those have at MSG to your Chinese
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food or even more so, so you get hungry again.
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I mean that was kind of like the knowledge that
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we kind of and like kind of the older generation
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of the gearedlifters just got get as bloated as I
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had a trading partner my first benchure. It was a
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guy Chris Taylor, and he taught me along with Vitie
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descendso taught me how to bench and a shirt. And
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Chris Taylor always would he would drink like a leader
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of like Coca Cola so that he would have the
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bench belly, and that was like his I remember, and
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he was a big I think he I don't know
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if he ever did it. I don't think you ever
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did in competition, but I saw him like do like
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nine hundred to like a one board, which is you know,
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in like one of those Phenom shirts, and like that
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was his like you know, he drank the soda and
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he got this big belly so he didn't have to
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bring it down as far. And that was the nutrition
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aspect definitely changed a lot, like over the years.
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Yeah, there's I mean whether or not everything that everyone
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is doing for health and wellness at this point is
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actually like legitimate or scientific or whatever. There's a lot
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of people who are really trying to concentrate on it
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in their own way, and it is still there's still
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a lot of you know, like bro science, Like you're
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talking about, you know, Oreo challenge. I remember that I
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never did that. I mean I like Oreos, but I
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couldn't eat that many logos. I mean I could demolish
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the sleeve and then I'm done. I'm done with Oreos
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at that point.
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But Jim, what was your diet like when you're actively competing.
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When I was actively competing, Like I when I when
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I started powerlett thing, I had never weighed more than
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one hundred and eighty five pounds and I started going
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over to a gym in the Bay Area. I live
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in Sacramento, so it's was about an hour or so
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away one way, and I was called the Apple Barbelle,
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and I was like, suggested I should just eat a
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lot more than what I was eating, and so it
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was it was just whatever. Really it was like a
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lot a lot of meat, a lot of protein, like
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you know, a lot of barbecue places where you got
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the platter that was, you know, like this big and
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just full of five different kinds of meats and you know,
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sausages and cheese, and you know, that was in pretty
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sharp contrast to what I've been doing before. Like I
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gained about fifteen pounds clean in my late thirties, like
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I had that was sort of my lowest body fat
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and I was I was just not eating any of
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that stuff. I just just wasn't at all. And I'm
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kind of back there now. I don't eat a lot
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of beef and stuff. I still eat a lot of
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chicken and all. You know, just I mean, it doesn't
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look like a bodybuilder diet, but it doesn't look like
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an old powerlifter diet either. Back then, it was just
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it was the issue of like you know, trying to
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gain weight, and I think my biggest squat was like
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six fifty and that was too fourteen. Like I couldn't
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fill out the two twenties at that point. It was
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just kind of a struggle to get there, honestly. And
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then you know, at some point I also then just
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didn't fill out to two forty two, so I just
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couldn't you know, two twenty was too hard, But but
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two forty two was, you know, a light two forty two.
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I guess. Excuse me. We were talking about about cruise
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and John intimated that you you were to try to
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get a crew together at some point here around your
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gym in southern California.
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Oh absolutely. And over the years, I've had various people
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attempt to train with me, and unfortunately, many of them
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get discouraged because they think, well, I can't keep up
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with you, you're too strong, and I think a lot of
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the time they're missing the point. I need somebody that
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wants to push themselves as much as I do, and
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we're working towards the same goal. We're trying to get
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stronger and better. Because it's inspiring and motivating for me
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to watch somebody push themselves. I don't care how much
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they're lifting. I just want to see them try and
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be a better version of themselves and be willing to
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put in the work. And that's what inspires me and
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gets me fired up. If they're as strong as me,
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or even stronger, that's a bonus, but it's not what
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I'm looking forward to make it work. So to surround
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myself with the community of powerlifters or just people that
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want to be strong and are willing to push themselves
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and put in the work alongside me is what I'm
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looking for.
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Yeah, I remember that. Like when I my first exposure
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to to powerlifter I was in powerlifting is I was
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invited to go watch the the APF State meet in
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like two thousand fourish, And what got me was watching
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how people approached their lifts like and when they came
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on the platform, you know that you could see what,
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you know, the wheels turning in their heads about about
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you know, getting into the right position and having the
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right having the right mindset to get through a lift
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and just the struggle and the strain and all that stuff.
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And it didn't it didn't matter how much they were lifting,
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it was what their were approach was and I think
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that I think that what you're talking about people being
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nervous about training with you because they're they're not as strong.
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It's the same kind of notion that keeps people from
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doing their first meat because they feel like, oh, I
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need to be strong enough to do whatever whatever, And
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it's like, no, you don't, not really. What you need
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to do is have honest effort. And and now, if
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you have honest effort, that reflects in your face, it
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reflects in how you prepare yourself, it reflects in how
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you approach the meat itself, like your demeanor, all of that.
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That's so much more important than what than than the weights,
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like I mean winning a meat, like winning winning your
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weight class and a meat usually means you get a
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little freaking plastic medallion or you get a little trophy
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or whatever, and you get a little bit of bragging
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rights for a minute, but none of that really matters.
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What matters is that you you prepared yourself for for
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a competition and you attempted to perform your best. That's
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that's what matters. And I think that's probably gonna be
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the same same thing if you're able to put it
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together a crew, it's just people showing up, being consistent
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and putting in their best effort.
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Yeah, one thing I wanted to highlight for the audience.
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And again sometimes when throughout numbers, it's like good or
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bad because some people can relate. Some people even think
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like because for a lot of people, even like a
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three plate or four plate squad is tremendous, and it
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absolutely is for the average person. So like when Larry
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was kind of getting started, and I would say he
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was probably around like a nineteen one hundred total, which
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is still like that's a person's dream still, you know,
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that's an amazing you know, nine hundred kilos eight fifty,
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you know, that's a huge total. But anyways, our kind
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of typical squad crew. You know, I was one of
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you know, the few people still in paralatin gear. I was,
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you know, cheating to keep up with all the young
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bucks and everything. And that's still true to this day.
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I was kind of in like the eight hundred to
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eight to fifty range at the time. I would say
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when when Larry came on, because I did my first
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eight hundred pounds squad, I did eight fifty and twenty
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three teen was the first time a squad eight hundred
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plus pounds. We had Dominici, and Dominici is a great
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training partner. He ended up squatting nine hundred pounds in
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just nee sleeves, which is still like a very still
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extremely rare feet. I don't know if you remember or
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if we talked about Michael Song's list, but Dominici was
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the first guy that actually and I don't even know
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if they still have the curated list anymore, but Dominici
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was the first guy to make the two thousand pound
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Raw Hall of Fame. He did that and squatting was
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his best left he was an eight hundred plus squadter.
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Then we had Mark Greenstein, who is our best lightweight guy.
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He did a nineteen hundred pound two twenty and then
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he did an eighteen twenty five and he ended up
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being like a seven hundred pound squadter. And then we
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had one of my training partners, Eric Prush, and he
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was my first coach and he has his own business
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now and he was more of like a deadlift guy,
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but he was like a five hundred pound squad So
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we had people like from the five hundred pound range
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to eight hundred pound range, all in the same model
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of so like we took plates off, wasn't a.
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Big deal me all, and everyone was great.
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And but by the time when I got to deadlift day,
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you know, Eric Prush, he was like the low man
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on the totem pole for squats, but then he would
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kick my ass because he was like a seven hundred
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plus deadlifter.
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So we all kind of took our lick. Sometimes. We
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all had strengths and weaknesses.
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And then you have people like Larry was just good,
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good at every lift and he figures, you know, so
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he's always that's always like annoying, but it's good to
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like kind of push and then you kind of have
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your day. You know, you'll have a lift that you
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kind of excel with and it was kind of fun.
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So like I'm squat day, like you know, I would
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be the one, you know, the last man standing most
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of the time, and I would you know, throw the
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knee wraps on the canvas suit and do what I
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can to kind of you know, do a little bit
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more than the next guy, because you know, eventually, like
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I said, Dom ended up, you know, dominded up kind
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of tying my best squad and just knee sleeves, which
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you know, before he was done, which is incredible. And
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then you know he had some people like and I know,
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like Larry Larry could speak to this too. I know
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that Larry got a lot more confidence in me as
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a coach because Dom and Mark were those were all
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homegrown guys. We were all we grew up in Plane Edge,
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New York. You know, all from the same town and
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North Massapequa. We all played football together and wrestled and
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like so it kind of like, you know, again I
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don't want to compare myself to Louis, but kind of
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similar where a lot of Louis's first elite lifters they
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were just hometown guys from Columbus, and I was trying
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to create something similar on like a like a on
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a lower scale in Long Island. But a lot of
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our guys were homegrown and even you know, Larry Larry
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basically was homegrown too.
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He just came in from the Bronx. But so, I
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don't know if you can kind of talk to.
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Like the difference in like the training partners and then
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you know, if you guys and also maybe at some
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point we could talk about you know, the importance of
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the train your long term training partner of Black Time Cruise.
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But what was it like having those different.
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Levels of ability levels and some people maybe were good
485
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at knee wrapping, some people were good at other things.
486
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:42.839
You know, what are some things that you would like
487
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:44.880
remember from those times, like those early days.
488
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:50.839
Sure so, Black Time Cruise was my longest standing workout partner,
489
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.440
and many myself included, will agree he's the greatest hype
490
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.400
man of all time. And that's something that I'm not
491
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.480
sure he gets talked about often in the communities about
492
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:00.759
like having a great hype man and not necessarily just
493
00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:06.599
a great workout partner, but somebody that makes the training
494
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.240
more fun. Like he just brought so much energy and
495
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:12.759
charisma at every session that it made I took so
496
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:15.839
much more pleasure just showing up because a lot of
497
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:17.440
the time I knew Black Time Crew was going to
498
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:21.279
be there, and his ban tour was just second to none,
499
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:25.319
and he made lifting like the best social event I
500
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.160
could think of, you know, Like, why bother doing anything
501
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.079
else when I have people like Black Time Cruise around
502
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:34.400
every workout session, every training session, you know, not just
503
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.839
to lift with, but also to laugh with, you know,
504
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.200
And that's what I found. Black Tom Cruise was the
505
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:41.720
greatest at you know, he had a great sense of
506
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.279
humor and even when I was getting down on myself
507
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.039
or whatever, you know, So having someone like that just
508
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.319
always keep your spirits high. He was the most positive
509
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.640
person ever met, right. I never, like, even when his
510
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.160
dad passed away, Like this guy never had a negative
511
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.400
thing to say about himself or about you know. It's
512
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.400
just like he was so positive and that was so
513
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.799
valuable to me because he always kept me uplifted. And
514
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:08.079
that's what you know, ideally in the perfect world I'm
515
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.720
looking for and you know, my community that I'm trying
516
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.920
to build that one gen you know, not just people
517
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:18.359
that are serious, hardcore powerlifters, but also know how to
518
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.039
have a good time with it too, you know, and
519
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:21.480
keep spirit time and be positive.
520
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:30.400
Yeah, that's that can be hard to maintain. And that's
521
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:31.920
I mean, it's great that you you had that. It
522
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:33.599
can be hard to maintain when you have a bunch
523
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.440
of strong personalities. I can just tell you from my
524
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.160
perspective that back in the old lest he days, it
525
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:43.200
was sometimes touch and go. Honestly, there were you know,
526
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.039
there were there were egos, there were a lot of uh,
527
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.440
there's a little dust ups sometimes in the gym, and
528
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.440
it's like I used to I used to always think
529
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.359
about like and partly because I was recording a lot
530
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.359
of training sessions, but I always used to think of
531
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.880
them like as episodes. It's like this is an episode
532
00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:01.960
of reality show. And that's really sort of I mean,
533
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.119
it's almost became a reality show a couple of times
534
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:09.039
where where people just rubbed each other the wrong way.
535
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.240
And you know, in competition, in moments of competition, people
536
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.640
always rooted for their teammates, but sometimes in training there
537
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:24.200
could be friction for sure, and I don't know, some
538
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.200
people can handle that and and just you know, sort
539
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.880
of sort of let the water off a ducts back
540
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.000
and not care about it, and other people like hold
541
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.920
on to it for a long time. So anyway, I'm
542
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.640
just saying it can be hard to develop that when
543
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.119
you have a bunch of strong personalities. And it sounds
544
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.480
like you were you guys were able to avoid that.
545
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.119
Well, I will say. I'd say like when I was
546
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.599
at the time, I was still a special education teacher,
547
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.880
and a lot of us would train U basically after
548
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.359
seven o'clock. We always joke, you don't know what goes
549
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.119
on after seven so all like the women and the
550
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.640
children and the kids the athletes, doors would close lock
551
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:03.680
like only if you weren't part of the paler lating team.
552
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.240
So it definitely was a similar kind of vibe. And
553
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.079
over the years the culture at Gagoleon Strength has shifted.
554
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.960
When I spend a little bit more time. In twenty seventeen,
555
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.599
I spent a week a week long I called my
556
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.559
Westside pilgrimage. It's maybe maybe being a little bit over dramatic,
557
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.000
but I spent a week with Louis. I trained with
558
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.880
like Anthony Olavera, Jason Koker. Trying to think who else
559
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.720
was there. I I kind of, you know, kind of
560
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:31.960
I called like an observational internship, but basically I would
561
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:33.720
just kind of I observed with Louis.
562
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:34.839
I kind of learned under Louis.
563
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:36.640
You know, we went to the bob Evans, we went
564
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.559
you know, to you know, to breakfast, all those things.
565
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.599
So at that time we had there was some people,
566
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you know, there was some falling out some of the
567
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people I mentioned, like, there was times where like we
568
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.359
weren't speaking. There was times where like people were kicked
569
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:50.720
out of the gym. There was time and I'm sure
570
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.640
the same thing with you, Jim, Like there was you know,
571
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:54.920
there was some tumultuous times. And I think when you
572
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.440
have people that really care, they're really passionate, emotions run high,
573
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.720
and then there's you know, calling a space this performance
574
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.200
enhancing drugs involved in all these things, and that can
575
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.240
just like elevate if someone has a big personality. It's
576
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.000
can even be a bigger personality when when performance enhancing
577
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.200
drugs are involved. So over time after that kind of
578
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.599
twenty seventeen, I kind of like I started to think about,
579
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.359
like what are the like the best elements of west
580
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.680
Side that I could take back to Gaglon Strength and
581
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.279
then try to like kind of kind of cut out
582
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.680
like maybe some of the other stuff. Maybe can we
583
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.599
have a competitive fun environment that's less cutthroat? Can we
584
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:33.000
still be supportive and competitive? Can we you know, be
585
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.440
hard on each other, but like not you know, but
586
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.680
in like a constructive way, you know. So those are
587
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:40.279
in I'm still kind of working on this, and this
588
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.680
is something that I kind of make a point and
589
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.279
every now and then that old flip will switch when
590
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I especially if I'm getting ready for me or whatever
591
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.200
I'm trying to I'm like Okay, like you need to
592
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.279
chill out, like this is not that serious.
593
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.680
This is like a hobby, you know what I mean.
594
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.319
So I think over time, and that's where someone like
595
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.720
Black Tom Cruise at least was great because you just
596
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.119
never had a negative like thing to say about anyone.
597
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.079
Is just that was his personality. So he always kind
598
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.119
of brought a lot of warmth and he kind of
599
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.200
would cut through and I don't think anyone ever had
600
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:08.839
a problem with him.
601
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:10.119
He was just one of those guys that was just
602
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:10.920
always cheerful.
603
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.599
And so I think having those people that are like
604
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.960
whether the peacekeepers or the people that are always fun,
605
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.440
I think that really helped. And I know for me personally,
606
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.599
that's something I had to kind of take a look
607
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.559
at in the mirrors as I got older, and after
608
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:26.440
that twenty seventeen, I was like, okay, like, let me
609
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.759
try to take the best elements of West Side and
610
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:31.359
then try to make it a more family friendly environment
611
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.279
but still have all you know, the programming, the team culture,
612
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because I think that the idea of a crew is
613
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.960
so important. But yeah, I think that it can you
614
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.680
can like anything else. I was a super heavyweight. You
615
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.559
can like take any all this stuff too far, so
616
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:47.559
trying to kind of find that middle ground where you kind.
617
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.599
Of get the best of both worlds.
618
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.119
So that's something where it's easier said than done. But
619
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I think sometimes you have to like let the pendulum
620
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.119
sling all the way to the end to kind of
621
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.559
find that center point. And like, we definitely took things
622
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.559
too far, and especially you know, when you start breaking
623
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.400
records and stuff, you get a little bit of cocky,
624
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.000
and sometimes so many people, you know, I have a
625
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.599
little bit of a god complex, if you will. I
626
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.680
think it's just you start to feel like you're invincible
627
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.079
until you kind of get shot down a little bit,
628
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.559
until you get humbled. So I don't know if that
629
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kind of resonates with you at all, but that's just
630
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:18.680
kind of how I looked about these things. And that's
631
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.240
why I've kind of definitely kind of calmed down a lot,
632
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.480
if you will. And my wife may disagree, but I've
633
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.680
definitely slowed down a bit. I've definitely gotten less aggressive
634
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.400
in training. That's why I kind of and even like
635
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.599
now like I'm like, you know, semi retired doing more
636
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.519
strict cirl and stuff. But even like me at like
637
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.200
eighty percent it's still a lot for like the average person,
638
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.400
where when we were like running at one hundred percent,
639
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.799
it's like, you know, and maybe we shouldn't be running
640
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:44.920
at a hundred, you know what I mean, We need
641
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.160
to like kind of chill out. Like Larry said, I
642
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.960
think that the more you can restrain yourself, because most
643
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:50.759
people can't.
644
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.160
Tap into their self like that.
645
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:54.839
Most people can't like recruit, you know what I mean,
646
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:56.720
Like when you're like doing like a nine hundred pounds
647
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.519
squad or a big bench, a big deadlift. Most people
648
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.559
just don't have like that, you know, that switch they
649
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.319
can flip, And I think it's good to be able
650
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:06.960
to learn how to like turn that on in.
651
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.680
A competitive situation. But it's one of those things.
652
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.640
Dave Taate used to call it like a zippy cards,
653
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:13.839
and he would only have like one or two like
654
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.839
every so often. So you kind of use those wisely
655
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.720
because if you use them too much, you break down.
656
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.440
It could be detrimental to your nervous system, your mood
657
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.799
and everything else. You have to kind of, you know,
658
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.319
kind of restrain yourself until it's time. And that's like
659
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.839
one thing I think Larry did a great job with
660
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as his competition career kind of took off. He learned
661
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.240
to trust the process, and then on meat day, like
662
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.759
the leash was off and we were then we were
663
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.160
then we were there to do the job. So that
664
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.319
all the training up into that point and most of
665
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.200
his training, you know, we would touch ninety percent sometimes
666
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.319
ninety five, but like the really heavy stuff was done
667
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.279
with a reverse band, the really heavy stuff was done
668
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.079
with chains. If it was straight weight and all that stuff,
669
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.799
it really was usually not as crazy. But then on
670
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.079
game day, on meat Day, then we hit the numbers
671
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.960
that we needed to. And luckily, like I said, I
672
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.119
was I have a pretty good batting I had of
673
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.359
average with picking attempts, and we were more more fortunate
674
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.759
in making more than we missed. But I think part
675
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.480
of that is just having like I said, like almost
676
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.000
like you know, basically a decade relationship of knowing each
677
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.480
other and then you can really kind of make those
678
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.720
decisions on the fly when the pressure was on.
679
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.519
Well, you were talking about, you know, people being able
680
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:25.680
to sort of access that extra that extra gear, and
681
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:30.680
a lot of people seem to rely on you know,
682
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:36.119
ammonia or or a particular like hype song or whatever,
683
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.720
particularly in meets, but sometimes a lot in training sessions too,
684
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.720
and that I'm always kind of surprised by that as
685
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:47.119
those are things that never like really you know, SYNCD
686
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.599
up for me, like I either had it or I didn't.
687
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.400
They didn't necessarily help me one way or the other.
688
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.759
What do you guys think about those other of things?
689
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.559
And Larry was talking about how being hyped up by someone,
690
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:04.319
but uh, hyped up by those external factors like you know,
691
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.400
smelling salts and whatever music you wanted to listen to.
692
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.119
You know, I'm great you brought that, want to answer, Yeah, absolutely,
693
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:18.000
I'm glad you brought that up. That gets I get
694
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.679
that question often and basically when I have a hype song,
695
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.800
or at least in the past when I did. You know,
696
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.039
every time you listen to it, it hits less and
697
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.559
less hard, right, so you build a tolerance to it,
698
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.239
and then you become dependent on it, and then if
699
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:32.800
it doesn't work, it's like, damn, well, now I can't
700
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.920
turn that switch on, right, or I would try and
701
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:36.679
go to a dark place, or I would have someone
702
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.440
slap me to get me fired up. And that's fun
703
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.880
for a time, right, but doesn't always work.
704
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:42.280
Right.
705
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.840
But what does always work. What you can depend on
706
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.199
is yourself internal motivation. And I learned to when it's time,
707
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.599
when it's game day, when it's time for a big
708
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:57.159
lift ninety percent or above, just execute right, control my breathing,
709
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.639
you know, have a little bit of caffe you don't
710
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.880
go too crazy, nothing too extreme, and just focus on
711
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.559
executing the lift properly. Like what are my technique cues,
712
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.960
because that's the most important thing. When I start like
713
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.280
blacking out and going to that dark place or the
714
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.199
hype song or the slapping, it could get you a
715
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.960
little bit too aggressive and you get sloppy and your
716
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.119
form breaks down. Then you get injured, you miss a lip,
717
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.880
you know, squat deeping up and so on. So I
718
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.480
tell people just focus on proper execution. And I remember
719
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.639
so many times John sitting in front of me, like listen,
720
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.480
stop thinking, just execute and that's as simple as it is. Right.
721
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.800
Well, that brings up another question. You know a lot
722
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.719
of a lot of our lifters right now in the
723
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.159
gym are working with a coach. Sometimes it's somebody who
724
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:43.960
is also a member of the gym. Often they're working
725
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.559
with a remote coach. Very like very small number of
726
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.039
people are probably working more from a template and less
727
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.239
from whatever I mean. But we have like we have
728
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iPhone tripods all over the place because people are filming
729
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.920
lifts for their for their coaches and for Instagram and
730
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.480
stuff too. But but you know, not every not they're
731
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.719
not posting every single lift that they record because those
732
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:10.440
are all going to their coaches. What are your thoughts
733
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.639
on both sides about like what what effective coaching looks like?
734
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Whoever wants to go.
735
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First, Laurie, what do you think has been the biggest
736
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factors in your success in terms of like our relationship
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00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.960
and our dynamicsuse. I think I think you maybe kind
738
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:30.000
of riff off, like you know, you know, trusting in
739
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the process and just maybe some things that maybe I
740
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.199
unload some I kind of take on some bandwidth that
741
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you can kind of just focus on being an athlete.
742
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.360
Maybe if that is like a starting point.
743
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.199
Yeah, So what's so great about having a good coach?
744
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.760
It takes away all of the overthinking. Right when people
745
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.280
try and coach themselves, you tend to second guess yourself
746
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.039
and start to change things around, and you start to
747
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.079
lose faith in the process. You start to doubt yourself.
748
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:55.880
But when you just put your faith in a coach.
749
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.320
You just show up and execute right. It takes all
750
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.800
the guests work. And then on top of having good
751
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.400
consistent communication, the more you can communicate with your coach,
752
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.679
the better. I work with people briefly in the past
753
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.760
where it communicates you is newly non existent, and as
754
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.199
a result, I feel the train, nutrition, the recovery, everything
755
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.880
gets compromised because they didn't know what's going on. Maybe
756
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.000
they're not reaching out, they're not as attentive. And I
757
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:25.079
think communication is extremely important and what separates the good
758
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.719
coaches from the ones that they're not so good.
759
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.760
And on game day specifically, like because I know, like
760
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.320
I'm wearing like the world record shirt, you know, for
761
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.719
a reason. So like every single time that you broke
762
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.960
a world record, there was different federation, different circumstances, maybe
763
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.480
different states even, but the common denominators that we were
764
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:47.039
linked up, and I was like your game day coach, right,
765
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:49.719
And I think that's something I think is really overlooked.
766
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.920
And powerlifting is the even in raw lifting, because in
767
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.039
equipped lifting, and we're all with wraps and stuff, like
768
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.000
actually having someone to wrap your knees and put you
769
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.159
in the suit and all these things, But what were
770
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.760
some things like on day specifically in terms of like
771
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.960
the attempt selection, the warm ups, finding like electrolytes.
772
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.280
For when you're crampy, and we have a funny story
773
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:09.639
about that.
774
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.400
But what are some things like on game day that
775
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.599
you found like really helpful to like really allow you
776
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.599
to be successful on the platform.
777
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.760
I mean, you touched on a couple of really good ones,
778
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such as attempt selection, and that's something that is so stressful.
779
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.639
And I couldn't imagine going to a meet and having
780
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to choose my own attempts because how could I possibly
781
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.559
pick the right number? Whereas I felt whenever John picked
782
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.119
my attempts, it was just it felt just right. Opener, second, third,
783
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.280
everything just as it should right. And then just when
784
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.639
you experienced that meet after meat, it start to eliminate
785
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.840
a lot of the anxiety that's supposed to be there
786
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.159
and game day because you know, like, okay, well, I'm
787
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.519
with a coach that always picks the right attempt right,
788
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.400
So if I don't get it, it's on me, right,
789
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.599
because he knows what he's doing, he knows my body,
790
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and if I've been following the program my nutrition New
791
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Crab's on point right, I should get this left right.
792
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So I usually like to put that on myself, and
793
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if if I don't get an attempt, I always putting
794
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on myself, never on the coach, never on John. That
795
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:09.400
aside from little things, well significant things like if I
796
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did a weight cut, which I hated to do, I
797
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don't do anymore. And I remember one time, I don't
798
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.920
remember exactly which competition, I was cramping so bad I
799
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couldn't even open my hands, So I was like, how
800
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am I going to finish the meat? Literally I couldn't
801
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.559
open my hands or just glue shut. Never had it
802
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.880
happen in for in my life. But you know, with
803
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.440
John support, I was able to get electrolytes and he
804
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.079
was like, listen, drip like a gown to list. I
805
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:31.840
remember exactly what we did, but it worked.
806
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:32.159
Right.
807
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:35.119
That's the most important thing, just having someone there that
808
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.760
really is attentive, right, I have to keep emphasizing attentive
809
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.760
like that, really paying attention and really cares about your
810
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:47.880
performance is priceless. And I've watched other people try and
811
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coach their clients and it's not many. Unfortunately, many people
812
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.199
don't get the same TLC that I got when John
813
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was coaching me right, like just that you know, attention
814
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.719
to the little details and most important keeping me out
815
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.800
of my head, right, because on game day it's like, Okay,
816
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maybe I skipped this lift on this day or eat
817
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.760
it up on that day, and I start overthinking everything
818
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:11.800
and anxiety gets a little bit too overbearing on. It
819
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:14.199
doesn't happen too often, but if it ever did, you know,
820
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that's when John steps in, like, stop thinking, you know,
821
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.199
here's the plan, this is what we're gonna do, right,
822
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:19.480
And just that kind of keeps me out of my
823
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.719
head because the second you start overthinking things on game day,
824
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I feel like then you start thinking, well, maybe I'm
825
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not ready for this today, right, and then you start
826
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.480
going that rabbit hole like, well, because I don't believe
827
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.159
in myself anymore, how am I gonna get this lift?
828
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:32.360
Right?
829
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:34.679
So it's like having that coach like John there to
830
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tell you, you know, listen, you're ready for this is
831
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.800
what we're gonna do, and just adjust the plan as
832
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:44.920
the day goes on because things change, like maybe the
833
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.159
open didn't go as passed we thought it whatever, Like
834
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.199
it's so easy to get in your head and overthink
835
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.000
things and That's where John Septing is like, listen, this
836
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.599
is our second attempt. You know, don't even have to
837
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.400
go back and forth on him about I never argue
838
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.320
with John. I just stuck to the plan and more
839
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.239
often more times up the than not and worked out.
840
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.079
So there's two things I want to highlight with the
841
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especially the I think game day nutrition is often like
842
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.639
really like and game day nutrition starts with like the
843
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.599
night before. So I think a lot of people you know,
844
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.679
stand kind of famous with this. Is like you know,
845
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.400
you eat clean all like prep or whatever, and then
846
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.280
you go to right to I hop was very like
847
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.480
I hop b Ha pizza, pasta, pancakes, and then like
848
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.000
you're not your summa upset, You're not your weight's like
849
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.079
all messed up. You're you're in the bathroom more than
850
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:30.960
you know. Then then you know you're not able to
851
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.559
keep the weight on. So being like more dialed in
852
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.599
like the day before, and then have like the treats,
853
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.199
the treats and stuff like after after the meat is over.
854
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:40.719
And I know what Larry specifically, and I kind of
855
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:42.679
so I always have electrolytes on hand. I always have
856
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:46.159
different like you know, things for and sometimes like you
857
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.320
might like, you know, you might just say like, hey,
858
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.320
I'm not really sure if this is if you're a
859
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:52.920
newer coach, like I'm not sure if this is gonna work.
860
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.360
But just being confident and be like, hey, I think
861
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.360
you need electrolytes and just like being confident in your delivery,
862
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.639
you know, to your athlete, I think is important even
863
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.039
if you're like I don't know how this is going
864
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.840
to go, like, you know, just trying to like keep
865
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.840
the athlete, because if you're if you're showing nervousness, if
866
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.280
you're not confident, that's going to kind of go into
867
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.239
like the athletes. So we kind of went talked about
868
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.000
you know, Black Tom Cruise, if you're giving out positive,
869
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.320
confident energy, that's going to kind of rub off like
870
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.320
on the athlete. And I think that's really important that
871
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.320
you're very confident in your attempt selection. You've kind of
872
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.079
had good communication leading up to the meet, so that
873
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.199
way is no I think I'm opening too heavy or
874
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.559
I'm opening too light like that those things should not
875
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.440
like be happening with Those conversations should be had prior
876
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:32.880
to the meet, not not on game day.
877
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:34.800
Those that should not be a discussion.
878
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.159
So one one particular instance, so like, uh, when we
879
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.119
started competing a little bit more with like the USPA
880
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:42.880
and when the us opened was kind of a thing.
881
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.760
I was just talking actually with with with Greenow and
882
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.440
I think we have mutual friend, you know JP Price.
883
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:50.599
That like warm up room was crazy.
884
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.119
You know, you had like you know, Brandon Allen and
885
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.079
JP Price and all the it was like a crazy
886
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.119
meat And then we had of course, you know Urie
887
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.920
Belkin was whipping. He had he was like the John
888
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.480
Hack of like the time. But you know, the squad
889
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.760
depth was like, the strike zone was tough that day.
890
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.719
The bench pauses was tough that day. So we had
891
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.280
to like lower expectations and that was not I didn't
892
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.280
tell Larry about like, hey, like the judges are really
893
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.719
like that was not like a comrace. That was my
894
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.639
problem to fix. So we like lowered our third attempts
895
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.639
considerably and then uh, this is a really it was
896
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.480
a really cool moment for me as a coach because
897
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.760
we had a very unique opportunity because Larry got to
898
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.280
go head to head against Dennis Cornelius is one of
899
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:42.159
the greatest heavyweights in IPF history, and so we knew
900
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.079
we needed to pull a big deadlift to win. Larry
901
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.000
was the lighter lifter because of course he had. He
902
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:49.440
had to make my job a little bit harder because
903
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.719
he was trying to break our world record in knee
904
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.639
leaves and everyone else was in knee raps. But he's like,
905
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.039
I want to break Eric Lowbridge's record in nie leaves,
906
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:58.559
and also like do the smeat. I'm like, sure, no problem,
907
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.360
it'll be fine, just bringing a knife to a gunfight.
908
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.800
But you know it's Larry Wheels, so it's we'll figure
909
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.159
it out. So anyway, so Larry basically had like one
910
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.480
hundred pounds handicap on his total. So that's like that
911
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.239
was like that was the start of the meet. And
912
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.159
now like everyone's bombing out on squats. The pauses on
913
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.199
benches are crazy. So we get into deadlifts and we're
914
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:18.559
doing a little bit of jockey and for attempt selection
915
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.239
and I'm like, okay, like you know, Larry, did you
916
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.280
know had had some good polls in training. It's a
917
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.480
tough meat. The judging is tough. We kind of see
918
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.039
Dennis is not a great deadlifter, so I think he
919
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:34.519
ended up. He ended up, you know, we see what
920
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.039
he does in a third attempt, I don't remember if
921
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.159
he got it not okay, like if Larry pulls four
922
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.000
in Rakuilos, they'll tie. And then Larry went on body weight,
923
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.360
so we put the attempt in and Larry just crushes
924
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.079
it and it's it's like an iconic video like he's
925
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.519
in you know, the the MHP single it and like
926
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.719
he's going crazy and he's like big celebration. So he
927
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:56.440
beats Dennis Corney early his head to head and it
928
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.840
puts him third place overall. So it was the podium
929
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:05.760
was uh was Brandon Allen ended up taking second, and
930
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.079
then Eurie belcan you know, we knew it was basically
931
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.280
in his It was his like, you know, meat to lose.
932
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.840
So Brandon Allen had a great day and then you know,
933
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:14.920
Larry kind of rounded out the podium and it was
934
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.679
a very that was a very tough field, so to
935
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:19.679
podium and like not even be wearing knee wraps at
936
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.719
a rap meat was pretty crazy. And the fact that
937
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:24.679
he had like a very unique opportunity to go head
938
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.840
to head with one of the best IPF lifters in history.
939
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:29.719
I believe he still has the IPF world record in
940
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.800
the one twenty weight class. So anyways, that was a
941
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.679
really cool memory and I was like, and again not
942
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.079
to my own horn, but like stuff like that would
943
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.440
not happen without a good game day coach, Like those things,
944
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:40.920
you know, like if you just say like, hey, I'm
945
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.440
because Larry was capable of like an eight to fifty squad,
946
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:45.639
but we ended up with like eight twenty six or
947
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.920
something whatever the kilo number is.
948
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.679
It's like we had to like really drop it down
949
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:49.280
quite a bit.
950
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:50.639
Same thing. I thought he was capable of like a
951
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.880
six thirty five bench. I think he did like six
952
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.480
oh six or six', eleven you, know so you have
953
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.360
to kind of lower. Expectations you got to adjust to
954
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.519
the strike. Zone AND i think that's something where it
955
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:01.679
doesn't matter were like what you did in, Training like it's, like,
956
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:03.719
okay what are the conditions of the, Day and that's
957
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:05.840
where like the sports side really comes. In so those
958
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.159
are always the most fun for. Me it gets me
959
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.280
fired up just thinking about, It like those, were you,
960
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:11.039
know some of the good old.
961
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:11.480
Days for.
962
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.840
Sure as a, LIFTER i sometimes enjoyed just having somebody
963
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.679
else put in my numbers and just not even tell
964
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:22.480
me what they were in a meat LIKE i was in,
965
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.519
there sort of block it out when it's when it
966
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.480
was announced or whatever that. Was that was sometimes helpful
967
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.800
because THEN i you, know you get the numbers in
968
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.440
your head and you get like like you think you
969
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.679
have hard stops and you don't LIKE i would never
970
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.039
have squatted six fifty if somebody had told ME i
971
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.000
was gonna squat six fifty in this, meet because it was,
972
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.760
like you, know sixty pounds more Than i'd ever squatted anywhere,
973
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.679
Ever so you know that that makes the. Difference another
974
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.480
thing THAT i think really helps is if with a
975
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:57.519
coach on game day is timing warm. Ups there's there's
976
00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:59.599
a lot of attention that needs to go into. That you,
977
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.159
know you know when when the next flight is coming,
978
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:06.840
up and what equipment is available to, you you, know
979
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.960
to warm up in a warm up, rooms because not
980
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.280
every warm up room is created the same by any
981
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.880
stretch of the. Imagination you, know sometimes you're and sometimes
982
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:16.920
you're warming up with pound, plates but you're gonna live with.
983
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:21.679
Kilos that's often the. Case we actually have enough kilo
984
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.519
sets in the gym that we're able to let people
985
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.880
warm up with. Kilos if that's what they. Desire but but,
986
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:30.119
yeah and just so much of that that can really
987
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.639
get in your head and makes you anxious is taken
988
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.559
away if somebody else is managing it for, you makes
989
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:42.320
a big. Difference SO i know that We john AND
990
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:46.119
i talked it last time about strict, curl AND i
991
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.719
know you guys have a meat coming up in Southern
992
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:55.079
california in In january that you want to continue to
993
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.400
inform people, About so just lay that out for.
994
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.800
Everybody, yeah so, zeh but's it's kind of crazy even
995
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.360
just since we last, spoke which hasn't which hasn't been you,
996
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.719
know too long at this, point but this is going
997
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:15.440
to be one of the most highly anticipated heavyweight. Matchups
998
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.440
we have a couple of really heavy hitters coming And
999
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.480
i'm hoping that one of My New york, guys he's
1000
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.920
kind of like not one hundred percent of, confirmed but
1001
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.840
if he does. Go so we Have my guy Is John,
1002
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:29.719
Archibald Panamanian. Hulk so he's got THE rps world record right,
1003
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.840
now so he's like the reigning king with two hundred
1004
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:34.239
and ten, pounds so about ninety five.
1005
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.960
Kilos and then we have a Big.
1006
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:41.519
Joe it's a BOWL i want to say that he's
1007
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.360
so he's recently lost a lot of. Weight he's still
1008
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.199
a super heavyweight or a three oh eight, lifter but
1009
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.320
he he was like a four hundred pound dude at one,
1010
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.480
point and he was up there around like the two,
1011
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:51.199
yeah really big. Guy now he's in like the low three.
1012
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.559
HUNDREDS i think he's still like super, heavyweight but like
1013
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.800
maybe like three. Fifteen so he's lost a lot of.
1014
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.320
Weight so sometimes in strict, curl that's that's when you
1015
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.679
have the smaller belly kind of keep it closer to
1016
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.760
your body and that can like. Help so he's he's
1017
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:05.840
kind of in that two fifteen range right, now but
1018
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.719
he's done like a two twenty, Plus like he's one
1019
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.280
hundred kilo curl, guy which is again very rare. Air that's,
1020
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.320
like you, know probably less than ten, people i'd say
1021
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.559
In america has ever done. That and then you Have
1022
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:18.880
Antonio collins AND i know he's actually a, big a
1023
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.400
big fan Of. Larry we've talked. About you, know he's
1024
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.000
really excited to meet. You he's he's also a two
1025
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.679
hundred and twenty pound curler as. Well and then we
1026
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:32.840
Have Brendan Todd Brendan todd's ACTUALLY i consider him like
1027
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.119
a like a hybrid strength athlete because he does like,
1028
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:41.679
powerlifting he does strong, man he does STREET i don't
1029
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:43.239
know if you're familiar With jim with street, lifting which
1030
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:47.400
is like WEIGHTED calisenicx dips and pull. Ups he's like
1031
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:49.000
a two hundred and seventy five. Pounds he's a nice.
1032
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:50.599
Kid he kind of lives close to, me so he.
1033
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.119
Did he did a second strip from me with. Us
1034
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.159
he has got the one hundred percent raw world record
1035
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:58.880
with two hundred and twenty six. POUNDS i think it's
1036
00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.760
one hundred and two and a HALF.
1037
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.320
Q so.
1038
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.239
It's gonna be like the most stacked heavyweight lineup we've
1039
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.039
ever seen in a strict girl. Beat so it's gonna
1040
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:10.039
be like fun to watch because all those guys are
1041
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:11.960
gonna be going head to head and like one miss
1042
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.360
like someone else can kind of jump the. Other so right,
1043
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.239
Now John archibold is like THE rps you, know record,
1044
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.920
holder but we have three other heavy. Hitters so we
1045
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.039
got four guys that are doing ninety five kilos of,
1046
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.079
more WHICH i don't think it has ever been to my,
1047
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:28.360
knowledge and certainly NOT i think on The West, coast
1048
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.000
there might have been some meets like in The arnold and,
1049
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.880
stuff but and then we have some good lightweight, Battles
1050
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.239
like we have two, Guys Gary teeter And Ed joseph
1051
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.920
that are in the one thirty two weight, class and
1052
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.320
they've both gone over one hundred and thirty, two SO
1053
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.400
i think two pounds separate their pr so that's very.
1054
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.519
Exciting two pounds is not a, lot so that's gonna be.
1055
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.360
Exciting and then we're just trying to get some more ladies,
1056
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.960
involved so really exciting. Stuff and then the other thing
1057
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:52.599
that we're gonna, Do i'm not sure what we're gonna call.
1058
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:57.679
It i'm calling it training wheels, camp but we want
1059
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.639
to do some open tryouts for you, Know larry's at One.
1060
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:04.440
Gen Like jim, said it's not, anything so after this triccroll,
1061
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.639
me we're just gonna have like an open, lift you,
1062
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.480
Know And i'm really excited for that as, well because
1063
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:14.920
some of the best training, partners like, again you, Know,
1064
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.440
jim you were you, were you, know training with. THOUSAND
1065
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.239
i THINK i think Maybe cartwright was like eleven, hundred
1066
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.360
like you guys had some like one thousand pounds plus,
1067
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:29.320
lifters you, know six, seven eight hundred pound, benchures just
1068
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.239
because the ways can come. Off it's not just about
1069
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:33.840
the amount of weight you can. Lift and also when
1070
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.719
it comes to spotting and loading and stuff like, that
1071
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.440
as long as you have good communication and you're, coordinated
1072
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.840
you can like you guys can like you can spot
1073
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:42.559
a thousand pounds.
1074
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.400
Squad it is, scary but if.
1075
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.159
You guys are, coordinating and that's the whole, thing like,
1076
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.320
together we can achieve more if you guys learn to work.
1077
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.960
Together AND i know that you, know AND i don't.
1078
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.559
Know we'll Let larry speak a little bit as well
1079
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.639
with whatever he if he wants to tease you guys
1080
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.079
a little bit, more or if he wants to unveil some
1081
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.719
some big news the fifty Percent facts. Podcast BUT i
1082
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:04.880
know he recently put a post out that.
1083
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.199
He's getting the. Itch he's getting the itch.
1084
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.320
Again SO i don't know if you want to say
1085
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.480
anything to, That, larry or just leave The let's just
1086
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:13.760
leave the audience in. Suspense but anything else that you
1087
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:15.960
want to say about the team, tryouts what kind of
1088
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:17.639
people you're looking, For what are you looking for in
1089
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:18.440
a good training?
1090
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.159
Partner, Right so we touched on this a little bit
1091
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.079
earlier in the, pod But i'll get a little deeper into.
1092
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:27.440
It so really What i'm looking for is people that
1093
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.199
just want to be the best version, themselves don't take
1094
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.679
training too, seriously know how to have a good, lab
1095
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.920
make it fun, right because for, me training is, pleasure.
1096
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.400
RIGHT i don't want this to feel like a, chore
1097
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.360
like this is. WORK i genuinely look forward to going to,
1098
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.719
train And i'm not just fixated on the result, anymore
1099
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.159
on hitting prs or breaking weld the records or game.
1100
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:50.079
Day i'm really looking forward to, just you, know having
1101
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.679
people that are, reliable that are going to show up
1102
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.159
WHEN i expect them. To Because i'm a very punctual
1103
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:57.639
person and IF i Assu i'm going to be there
1104
00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.159
AT x O'clock i'm going to be there ex o'clock
1105
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.239
at that, time, Right so just respect my, time you,
1106
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.639
know respect the, gym and you have fun with. It,
1107
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.960
now as we mentioned, earlier it's not important to me
1108
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.199
how much you, lived you, know as long as you
1109
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.719
are interested in pushing yourself and you want to. Compete
1110
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.199
BECAUSE i think it's also important that you enjoy getting
1111
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.360
on stage and enjoy the, process because Ideally i'd like
1112
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.000
to compete with my training. PARTNERS i competed many times
1113
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.400
With Black Tom. Cruise and what made it so, magical
1114
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.000
besides everything ELSE i mentioned with all of his good,
1115
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.800
qualities was that we were training together for the same.
1116
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:37.199
Goal we were preparing for the same, competition not to
1117
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.679
beat each. Other, Right it was never about. That it
1118
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.679
was just about, Like, okay our goals, aligned, right let's
1119
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:48.960
work together in this. Goal AND i can't do a
1120
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.920
heavy squad or bench anymore like by myself ninety percent,
1121
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.000
plus which is not going to. HAPPEN i need at
1122
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.920
least three people, right middle and two side spotters.
1123
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:01.840
Five five as a. Crew five is a.
1124
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.920
Crew, Fine, okay, okay we can get. Five i'll Be
1125
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.880
i'll be. Jumping i'd be. Great, sorry go, Ahead.
1126
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.800
JIM i just you, know we were talking about about
1127
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:19.079
spotting training partners and spotting people in, meats but particularly training.
1128
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.880
Partners LIKE i was never close to being the, strongest but,
1129
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:26.360
BOY i really took the spotting part of it very
1130
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:30.360
seriously because, like you're not you're not lifting the, weight
1131
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.000
but you're protecting the, lifter and that's that's a big.
1132
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.440
Responsibility that's something that you that you need to keep
1133
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.360
in your head and you need to try to be
1134
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.519
as good at a spotter as you are a, lifter
1135
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:45.199
and that is hard for some. Folks BUT i always
1136
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.280
felt LIKE i. COULD i could side spot a heavy
1137
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.639
bench even IF i, couldn't you, know even IF i
1138
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:52.679
even it was just like two of us on one
1139
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.159
side or just one or, WHATEVER i could do it
1140
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.119
BECAUSE i didn't want anything to go badly for for
1141
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.280
whoever was. Lifting HOWEVER i was feeling about them at the. Moment.
1142
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:06.639
Uh and AND i think that THAT'S i think that
1143
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.400
just has to be has to be part of. It
1144
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:12.719
you have to to understand that that when you're when you're,
1145
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:16.360
spotting it's not about. You you're committed to the safety
1146
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:18.360
of of of your teammate who's.
1147
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:21.840
Lifting, yeah there's two quick THINGS i wanted to.
1148
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.440
Say SO i, know like WITH uh With larry's uh
1149
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.840
when he brooks hands record the twenty two seventy Five
1150
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.000
otis and you Know Black Tom. Cruise you know that
1151
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:32.920
they trained, this they did the same meet, together AND
1152
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.719
i think that like kind of added to just the
1153
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.239
environment that they were. In AND i Think otis was
1154
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.079
very close To i'm going off memory here so someone
1155
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.039
could fact check. ME i think That otis might have
1156
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.320
pulled like seven seventy or something like in the hot
1157
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:48.639
like mid to high. Sevens so and then you know
1158
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:50.159
he was up, there and then, uh he had a
1159
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.960
really good. Day and THEN i Remember larry broke the
1160
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:56.880
total record on a second. Attempt and then, uh one
1161
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:58.840
of my, buddies Christ ella. Fave he's a really really
1162
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.440
good multiplied. Deadlift he's got some records and equiped. Lifting
1163
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:06.000
AND i Remember larry outlifted him in the deadlift, raw you,
1164
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:07.960
know which was which was. Cool so we kind OF
1165
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:09.840
i kind of gave him the business a little bit
1166
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.719
that our raw guy had the biggest pull of the
1167
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:14.679
day Because Chris, Chris chris has done like a nine
1168
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.840
hundred pound deadlift in, competition like he's very, accomplished and you,
1169
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.440
know we have good, banter but that was it was
1170
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.239
a really cool. Day so he had people Like christella,
1171
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.559
five really big. GEARLIFTER i want to say he totaled
1172
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:26.519
like twenty six. Hundred larry told a twenty two seventy.
1173
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.800
Five it was some really good lifting that. Day it
1174
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:32.880
was actually done At Hastra. University you, know if people
1175
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.800
were familiar with with with a long, island and then
1176
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.440
you know the other THING i wanted to kind of,
1177
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:41.280
say like to your point about the. Safety so there
1178
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.239
was like a video that went, viral WHICH i KNOW
1179
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.079
i kind of joked tongue in, cheek but you, Know
1180
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:48.480
larry's cameraman was really happy that they caught this on.
1181
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.920
Camera BUT i was benching in a shirt AND i
1182
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.199
was doing a new venture at the, time and it
1183
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:55.400
was like five to. Fifty it wasn't, crazy but you,
1184
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:56.960
know it's still five to, fifty and you, KNOW i
1185
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:58.320
kind of get out a lot of you, know it
1186
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.159
fell back towards my, face and then we had Like
1187
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:05.000
Jesse james West on like the side who he was not,
1188
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:06.880
competent it's.
1189
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.840
Spotting didn't know what was going. On he's just like
1190
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:10.519
deer in a.
1191
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.800
Headlights larry grabs it with like one hand and, like you,
1192
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.760
know saves my. Life but it was like very close
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to my face and, throat and it's one of those
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things where like if you don't if you're not like
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a attentive and kind of go over those.
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Things so it's pretty scary.
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Stuff so, yeah it's really important that you have like
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the lifter's best interests in, mind and you, know take
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your headphones, out pay attention to the, bar don't fixate
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on what the weight. Is just be in position before it.
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Happens and LIKE i, said that's really crucial in terms
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of like a good training partner is going to offer
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support and safety first and, foremost and then everything else is.
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GRAVY i think that's kind of you're, consistent you're putting
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in good energy to the, session and that's kind of
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what we're looking to, foster and ESPECIALLY i, know you,
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know As larry builds up the power lifting culture In One,
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gen that's something we try to foster At Gaglion. Strengths you,
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KNOW i, said it's gonna be your fifth year anniversary
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as a, company AND i think one of the reasons
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that we're still standing as a brick and mortar business
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and you, know these hard times is because we have
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a good community and we always kind of foster that team.
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Environment that's what we want to have at One gen
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on The West coast as.
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Well oh that's. Great, YEAH i think that the one
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of the worst spotting Fails i've ever seen was the
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one that's actually In Power unlimited, yeah, everybody everybody from
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a certain period of time knows that. One, Yeah and
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and the issue was that he had a buddy handing
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off who was a, bodybuilder not a. Powerlifter H and
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so when he handed the weight off and the center
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guy steps, away because that you, know the most federations
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require the the the center lift off guy to get
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out of the out of the, way he also backed,
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off and so when the weight started heading, down there
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was nobody to catch it but his. Face so it was,
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yeah pretty. Mortifying. Uh, ANYWAY i SINCE i know that
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it's getting late In, russia AND i appreciate your time for.
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Sure where can people find, You, larry and where can
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they find information about signing it for this? Meet?
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Sure and thank you for having. Me and you can
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find me on all socials on the same Handle Larry
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wheels and it's all over my page Over John gaglion's
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page if you want information for the strict curl coming
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up in a few. WEEKS i hope to see you. There,
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ACTUALLY i Know i'm going to get motivated to compete
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myself When i'm in that. Environments breaking.
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News you heard it here.
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EXACTLY i, mean how can you not you are your.
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Environment you guys are gonna get me fired. Up BUT
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i hope to see you. There and, Again, jim thanks
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for having.
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Me, yeah thanks for being On.
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John so you can follow me at At Leon's strength
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on all the socials and you definitely follow our yes. Powerlifting,
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yeah feel free to shoot us a message guys if
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you guys want. TO i don't know how many spots will,
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have but if you are seriously, interested you, know serious
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in crees only, again doesn't matter what your total. Is you,
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know you guys could shoot me A dm At Gagleon's
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strength and we'll start to kind of put the fielders. Out,
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also make sure you're following One Gen. Jim and also you,
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KNOW i believe head trainer If Larry i'm speaking out of,
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Turn Damian bentley is going to be helping with this
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process as. Well he's a good, friend competitive body. Builder
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i'm not sure if you just get his pro card or,
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not but he's very high level as, well great culture
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At One. Gen so again we're just trying to kind
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of foster that to. Them and AGAIN i really can't
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Thank jim enough and fifty Percent facts for just having
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this platform because again at the end of the. DAY
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a lot of the stuff That jim has curated over
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the years kind of really helped us kind of get
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our message out. There and we, appreciate LIKE i, said you,
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know over you, know years and years, later we're still
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kind of doing our thing and involved in this crazy
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strength community we.
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COME i appreciate the kind words. There, YEAH i have
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to have to say, that like in in the era
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of social, handles it took me a while to actually,
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that for to dawn on me that you that you
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had a real last, Name. Larry part of me was
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just like. Wheels AND i will freely admit that that
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back in the day when we Had juji Mufu, ON
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i just thought that was his. NAME i thought it
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was just like, share you, know just like one word that's.
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It so EVENTUALLY i learned that he had a real.
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Name so, anyway, uh people who are interested in in
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uh in you, know having the potential chance to train
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With larry and and they're serious about, IT i think
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01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.480
that you, should uh should jump in there and and
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01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:49.480
and find out and and my uh my caveat that
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that you guys aren't saying is like just like check
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your ego at the. Door about it and and be
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01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:58.000
willing to to to. Give if you, give you'll. Get
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01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.760
that's that's that's really the you, know the bottom line
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of it is that it's it's mutually been a mutually beneficial. Situation,
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Anyway this is this show is fifty percent. Facts for
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percent is a word and fifty is just. Numbers fifty percent.
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Facts this is A Spreaker prime podcast and association With
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Ourheart media on The Obscure Celebrity network AND i will
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talk to you next. Time thanks a, Lot, Ice thanks
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you