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[SPEAKER_01]: From the studio in Nitro West Virginia, this is unreasonable down, it's a podcast about West Virginia University basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Josh Wit, and we're still so far from basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But some basketball news, scheduling department.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's better than getting local rivals, local like Eastern Standard Time, played them in the Big East in the past?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are a rival, Virginia Tech has been added to the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three games over the next three seasons, one in Morgan Town, one in Blacksburg, and then one at the Charleston Civic Center in 2028.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for this year's iteration, Chester Frazier comes back to Morgan Town, a money, handsberry comes back to Morgan Town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be fun, that'll be on December 5th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Feels like it's a little tougher than last season, which I like, is it too tough?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not gonna say yet, but here's what we look like so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Start in the season, November 2nd, hope call the CM against Niagara, then a couple weeks later,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to Las Vegas for the player's era, the more exclusive players' era tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eight teams, all good teams, so three very difficult games in Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then in December,
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[SPEAKER_01]: All tried and true Mercyhurst is bringing their talents to Morgan Town and then Virginia Tech at home December fifth and then right after that going to play the Pittsburgh Panthers and we're playing them not on campus, not at the Peterson Center, they're playing this one at the PPG paints arena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: believe that's where the penguins play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they'll have the ice out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what the fan ratio is going to be in PPG paints arena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Will that be a home game for Pittsburgh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: In Pittsburgh, we'll find out and then copy and state and then revenge wake for us in Greensboro on December 19.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So three ACC teams, currently I don't think and the chance to play possibly Notre Dame in the players' air tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So lots of power five tests so far in the non-converschedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then really, the big news is not basketball related specifically, but West Virginia related.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Country Road is taken off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Giant Denver's song, of course, it's one where
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[SPEAKER_01]: baseball season, those clips of how it was sung on the Hill there in Morgan Town, how it was sung all the way to the college world series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the starting point, and now the U.S. men's national team in the World Cup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: their co-opting country roads and their planet after when this, you know, I don't know if you're a soccer person or a football person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my favorite thing to root for outside of West Virginia basketball is the U.S. Miss National Team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their playing country roads, they're still in the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're in the round of 16.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we have a country road year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we just keep this momentum going country roads world cup then country roads in the fall with football country roads West Virginia soccer country roads Ross Hides season two
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[SPEAKER_01]: baseball, run a bag, do another college world series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just make it a year of country roads take me home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's just own this until I'm sure Texas Tech is working on buying the rights to country road take me home from the Denver estate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they'll put it at a high price.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But until that day, West Virginia gets to be a part of celebrations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it happened with baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's see if we can keep it going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love that for football, basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's ride the wave of country road momentum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of awesome, return guests, more of somebody else talking than me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mount near Paul, return to the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna draft, we're gonna do a fantasy draft of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: mountain near point guards from the 2000s with the excitement of myocadler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's draft point guards and just say names maybe you haven't thought about in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my 2000s mountain near point guard draft with mountain near Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, mountain near Paul, welcome back to Unreasonable down to podcast about West Virginia University Basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just did this yesterday on my show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did as a little home and home in July.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thanks for coming back to the program.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know you're probably focused in on year two of Rich Rod.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the next thing that's coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a basketball podcast and we're getting year two of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: coming off of the college basketball crown victory give me your thoughts and your excitement level for year two of Ross Hodge and this new roster that he's bringing in very excited as you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously there are questions and we still don't have all the answers, but I think with what we know so far there's a lot of
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even Rim Baker went on the three guys for the game podcast yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They dropped an episode and he said, just how different this team looks and how much that everybody's kind of bought in and invested and how how good the team looks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, obviously, I'd be off of that and, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a year that could go so many different ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It depends on how many different guys we see, but I at the end of the day, I think this is a team that could be a very sneaky, sneaky team, like in the big 12 potentially, maybe sneaking up into that top five or six range by the time it's all said and done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can see that and being a team that can make some noise in the tournament, whatever the iteration that's going to look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely in a drought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: NCAA tournament drought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'd be awesome to get back there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure Paul, you're excitement level of lines with the incoming freshmen, Miles Sadler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you've watched Paul and listen to Paul, you know where he stands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you haven't heard Paul, give us your thoughts, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm talking up, Sadler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me your thoughts on what you think of Sadler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as a prospect and what will he do in the 2026, 2027 season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're talking about guys that major accolades and honors who's entering his freshman year at West Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Five star recruit, he didn't start out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a kid that's been doubted every step of the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every step of the way, my whole settler has been doubted by people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's had to prove people wrong, it's too small, he can't shoot, and he just continues to get better at all of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a step back jumper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a little bit of a mid-range game he can go to from the right hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he can do things now that maybe, whenever I first found out about miles, I was told, the first certain person a person ever told me about him was he's one of the better on-ball defenders in high school basketball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went into that thinking, okay, this is just hard nose, dependent, depends of five star kid that can play some point guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's not what I saw at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's hard-nosed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is everything to me and I think that he's only improving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you look at what he was then maybe a year ago and has become, you know, let's say from when he was on the Canadian team, uh, FEMA under 17, that iteration of Mao Sadler and what he's become this year, two totally different kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he went from well points of game 13 points of game there to,
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[SPEAKER_00]: way better now to games where i mean he's put up twenty six twenty eight twenty nine twenty games and you know i've been a vista really came into his own averaging over six real about sixteen a game i think it was there five assists four rebounds over two and a half steals a game and obviously had his pick of the litter so you're talking about a five star recruit top twenty-five player kit you know nationally um... the highest rated on our history as we've spoken about josh and
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the EYBL stand out, uh, you know, tournament that he had, the chick, the, the, the, uh, Chipotle, National Championship all the way to the Nike hoop summit, and everything in between has been
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[SPEAKER_00]: how do you top that and then he does it and then how do you and now he's going to the Chris Balkan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like I just every time I look up, Miles Sadler is eat more and my expectations are, I think he can be and I said this out loud on my show, our version of AJ DeBonza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In other words,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he ever be as talented as AJ DeBonce, so that's obviously that would be high for Bonce to say, but to say that he couldn't be our freshman version of him or Corey from Stanford even, absolutely he can be that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason he can't be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's being mocked in his first round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is a kid that can be generational for us, Josh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Eccore is a great kind of comparison of just freshman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a freshman this year, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it gets drafted and we saw them in Las Vegas, really good player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully our pieces around our guy have a little bit more to bring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: with, you know, you were talking about Sadler and we're going to be talking about it on unreasonable doubt quite a bit as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I brought you in in honor of Miles Sadler, we're going to do a draft of Mount near point guards from the 2000s and before we get into it, and I will allow you to pick Miles Sadler's side unseen if you want to pick him in the draft, like just based on your excitement, you can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but let me ask you,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not throwing picks, but where do you think Sadler will land in, if we did this draft next off season, where do you think Miles Adler is going to land on the list?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Top four, top two, top ten, what are your thoughts?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you had to guess today, it's July.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, yeah, I mean, playing the guessing game, I don't think he'll be jib on small.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he'll be that level, you know, in his first year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe impact-wise, you can have a similar impact, but not the scoring impact, maybe, is what I'm trying to get to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could be top four, top five, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know how much research you did for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did a little bit on mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with the 2000s, we've got a lot of one here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of really good guys, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of really good guys, and a lot of one here, guys, where you are drafting based on,
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[SPEAKER_01]: a guy's one year and then goes to another place or he just says last spot before he goes to whatever he's going to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do a snake draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have five picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll put the teams on the internet and we'll see and let the internet crown the champion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Call you're the guest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you the answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to draft first?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to draft second?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me Jibon small for the first pick in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go see you're coming hot out of the gate and you're going Jibon small.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me if you're one one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well he does everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He literally does everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's in the stratosphere with with Javan Carter defensively like you can make the connection it's not he's not he's not Javan but yeah he's definitely you know he's another Javan I guess but you know he's definitely a very good defender maybe a more like a Joe two-sant Thai style defender you know he's in that he's a defensive guard a play defense and then offensively the year he had with West Virginia
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, was there a better guard in the big 12?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, there wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's saying a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Consider the big 12 is as talented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And look what these he just did, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just had a great rookie year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we haven't had a guard do as well as he's done outside of the two that we all know about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I think there are definitely options there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he gives you everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gives you defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gives you a lead, three point shooting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gives you, you know, the ability to get to the lane and it gives you positional size, 6.3.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think there's just everything there with him that you hit every mark that you're going to need to hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's having an off-game, he can pass it, he can play defense, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I picked you off-small.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not have him at the top of my list, but you made the strong argument of why he's your one one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the next two picks, Paul, and I got to go with another Javan here, and we're talking two time national defense of players of the year, we're in all American.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four years at WVU three sweet sixteenths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to go with Jibon Carter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was at the top of my list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fairly, you're unfairly his longevity him, you know, him and Daxter kissing the floor, emotional with Huggins on senior day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just going back and watching the clips,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I took him for granted at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I read it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But of the negatives while he was playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as with everything on my basketball takes with age, it's like, dude, you should appreciate him in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just his ability to take a couple of dribbles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's pulling the three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got it off with consistency, shot it well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, Javon Carter's NBA pro just signed another contract with the magic system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those checks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Javon Carter's the guy for me, uh, and he's my first pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I get the pick again Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've got a different dilemma here because I really think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as you go through these guys, it's like a top four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought we'd have, one of us was gonna have to decide who's gonna get Jibon smaller, who's gonna be, if Jibon's ball's gonna be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now I've got to down between two guys, and I have to go with my heart, which is I'm gonna go with Jibon Stateon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, two time, all big 12 first team that jump shot the way he could rise and just like a frog just and just get that shot off wherever he wanted the classic finish against Kansas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, in the first year of press Virginia, really kind of transition from the end of Kevin Jones and truck Bryant into press Virginia's era, like, he was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And before Javans small and and do some of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to throw picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that that was in my top tier of guys as far as the point guard position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to go to Juan state and he was amazing in his time at WBU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so that's who I'm going with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Doc on one state and out you couldn't go wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't go wrong with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as far as college players goes on this list of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, he's he did everything well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He, you know, he was elite midrange game elite again to the rack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's a guy that scored 15 or 16 a game in college, especially coming over from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... dating to uh... i mean look at the year that he had with west virginia was really good and uh... you know it's just one of those guys that you wish we had more time at west virginia yeah one was it that's that's for sure all right you got the next two picks Paul and i i think i've got a guess on who who the next pick's gonna be because this is a good one with yep
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, obviously Miles McBride, obviously you've got to go there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no doubt about it, you know, two of the better years you've seen a kid have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what he was from his freshman year to his sophomore year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a huge jump, you know, in a kid that
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what was he and he and Javan Carter, your apart from playing with each other did Javan leave two years to your difference?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's two years to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and there were other guys that just missed each other between those two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was almost like if it would have been nowadays where people can get waivers and who knows what could have happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, can you imagine a team with miles and Javan on it, what would have been?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, yeah, I mean, obviously miles
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[SPEAKER_00]: is what he's turned it you now is incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The year he just had incredible, one of the most important pieces off of a team that won it all, and has turned himself into one of the best snipers in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have that at West Virginia, not to that level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't, if he played out West Virginia, he would be a 40% plus 3.0 shooter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, he was still good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was just coming along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Athletic defensive size, everything you could want in a guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the more I talk about it, the more I wonder, should I have picked Joe on small over him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, it's close between the two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would, if you told me Javansmo had the better career by the end of it, I wouldn't be totally shocked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's going to be making it hard on whoever wants to come after his crown, because he's definitely surpassed Javanskard as far as NBA career goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that does, we're talking about college, obviously, but you know, you can't, now that we know what they've done in the NBA, it's hard on the factored in miles, obviously, a big piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if I'm going for another piece here,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got two pretty good sized guards here, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about size, position, position, flexibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I need to do to contribute it anywhere any place any time, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me the way you're going with this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honor half, baby?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honor half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, a guy that can absolutely light you up and is a much better defender than people given credit for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: much better defender than people from credit for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think honor half is a fun pick for this strapped in this spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: honor half did not see that coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I I picture him as a two guard, but he absolutely brought the ball down the court and played plenty of point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is one year with with WVU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So great pick had a fantastic season left with the crown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think he qualifies?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I want to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He definitely is a point guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play in the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing the two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes call it a play-up ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, two to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it starts at an out a little bit, but I feel like the pick here is truck Bryant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To go truck Bryant, 13 all big 12 in a senior year, part of the final four run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: bowling ball could get to the rim just one demeanor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just, you know, I picture him in Massachusetts, where a garden 2010 big East champion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's good years hitting the ties playing in the background.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All these guys from New York and New Jersey and just good memories of trucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bummer that he was injured in the in the in the tournament run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that may bring up another guy on this list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He may get picked because of that, but I'm gonna go with truck Bryant for my third pick
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm going to have to combo this Paul and go it's not it's not the body of work but the peaks of this guy is why I'm picking him in my fourth spot and it's three games it really is it's it's the Duke game in 2008 this guy was amazing
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was him and the eliteate game against Kentucky with truck injured stepping up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm never going to forget this, that the year he had to sit for most of the year, he's out there with that growth plate injury in his shoulder, gets fouled against Davidson, shooting free throws with the opposite hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like this is my guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a crazy person and I'm talking about Joe Mazulla.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is, again, body of work, not a ton of starts, career-wise, wasn't snift as an NBA draft prospect, but for in a mountain near uniform, Paul, in those big games, beating Duke, what's Virginia does to do that very often?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't beat Kentucky to get to the final four, and the man who happened to bring his best in those games,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is is Joe Mazula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, you know, he's an NBA champion now as a coach, but I'm looking at what he did at Western Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other guys had better full careers, more stats that they've had in their time in Morgan town, but but the highs of Joe Mazula were the best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm going to go, Mazula for my fourth pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to go a lot of arms, Dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lionel arms dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going back to the Cadillet days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, I remember the defense of player he was, you know, you have me really going back in the memory banks for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had time to day to the research, but I mean, thankfully, this is something I know a lot about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just sneaks in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he's in 2000, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or 2000, he's in 2001.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, but I mean, you know, just all big East guy, I mean, look, you know, but uh, and he, he was right before hard getting those guys, but yeah, so, and then Chafino after that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, you know, and what a controversial picture Pino could be in this list, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he had a lot of talent as well, but, you know, we've got names, we can do that all day, but I'm struggling here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there are guys that you could go with that would be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is your one-year guys, and then kind of what I'm describing of like steady eddies, of like guys who wasn't flashy, but played the point guard role well, did it for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you'll see him in the all-time stats categories I have to go with and look I you know in my heart this is probably number one and he's you know for this for his size was an elite rebounder and a dude that just came to work every single day I got to go with my gansy and one of my spots my gansy point point guard my gansy
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, he played the two, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, was the two a point garden?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I guess I have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to exnate Gansy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to give you Gansy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK. Fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And people can write in or say, hey, Joshua remember when he was playing point?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember a ton of point guard, my Gansy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely handles a ball a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I get what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously Deris Nichols was the point guard on those teams, but I felt like, you know, try to get Gansy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you want me to do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You tried?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You tried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to come up with a spot it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So give me take two on your foot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go with Miles Sadler for one of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to give me Sadler, I'll take what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew you'd do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew you'd go sadly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to take Sadler for one of those just for the pure upside of an all and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's your team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I had one more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll recap them here in a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I knew you'd do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Mount Nepal has miles sadler sight unseen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Time and my mountain here point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the enthusiasm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got the last pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to be bummed in the honorable mention, but I'm going to go with another heart favorite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with the six big 12, six man of the year in 2016, 17, to Reak Philip, just vibes of a guy who played both sides of the ball, played hard, made that key shot in the NCAA tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe against Buffalo, it was against Buffalo, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: dog like one of those in that press Virginia era would not want to see him on the other side of the ball if I had it Other guys again more stats, but just a I enjoyed watching this man play
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with to read Philip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my fifth pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, so let me break it down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I've lost this because you have a lot of good names.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I goofed on the second pick, but Paul's team of mountainer poor guys are the 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Javon Small, Doos McBride, Onerhoff,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lionel Armstead, and Miles Sadler, and then my team, Devon Carter, Joann Staten, Truck Bryant, Joe Mazula, and Tareek Philip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll let the internet decide Paul honorable mentioned guys you mentioned there's nickels he's in my study at a category Joe air bear those both of those guys played pointy yep you got Joe too sought the one year Jonathan Hargett is a terrible year presa great stats curcisa one year
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keidry and Johnson three years, I mean, but, and then you're getting into like Jordan McCabe and Beatle Bowen all like probably good memories of guys, but those are in the honorable mention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Miles Adler as, and, and if we do this next year, Paul, let's see where he's at on the list, but I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got him in the top 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you think you did?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What, what are your, you hear the teams?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's the winner on this one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mean you're five again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Javon Carter, he was two-time national defense player of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Javon Staten, truck Bryant, Joe Mazula to Reak Philip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like I've like my five with your five and all and in a five fucking game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I truly do, I mean, the forest names go like it just depends on how you're looking at this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're talking about names and how they make me feel, it's hard for me to bed against your list honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, your names are like really resonate with me as a matter of fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the body of work, you've got, you know, one of the best three points shooting as far as number of three points shots made in a season in honor of half year of Javans mall two years of doos McBride like you got guys that almost like a comet they were here real quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: did great things and just kind of sad that we're probably very likely be a comment as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He might be as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, but I think your names are going to pop better on the graphic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll find out together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, this has been fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait for the 2026, 2027 season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining me again on Unreasonable Doubt, a podcast about mountaineer basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: From the studio in Nitro West Virginia, this is unreasonable down, it's a podcast about West Virginia University basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Josh Wit, and we're still so far from basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But some basketball news, scheduling department.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's better than getting local rivals, local like Eastern Standard Time, played them in the Big East in the past?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are a rival, Virginia Tech has been added to the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three games over the next three seasons, one in Morgan Town, one in Blacksburg, and then one at the Charleston Civic Center in 2028.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for this year's iteration, Chester Frazier comes back to Morgan Town, a money, handsberry comes back to Morgan Town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be fun, that'll be on December 5th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Feels like it's a little tougher than last season, which I like, is it too tough?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not gonna say yet, but here's what we look like so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Start in the season, November 2nd, hope call the CM against Niagara, then a couple weeks later,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to Las Vegas for the player's era, the more exclusive players' era tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eight teams, all good teams, so three very difficult games in Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then in December,
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[SPEAKER_01]: All tried and true Mercyhurst is bringing their talents to Morgan Town and then Virginia Tech at home December fifth and then right after that going to play the Pittsburgh Panthers and we're playing them not on campus, not at the Peterson Center, they're playing this one at the PPG paints arena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: believe that's where the penguins play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they'll have the ice out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what the fan ratio is going to be in PPG paints arena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Will that be a home game for Pittsburgh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: In Pittsburgh, we'll find out and then copy and state and then revenge wake for us in Greensboro on December 19.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So three ACC teams, currently I don't think and the chance to play possibly Notre Dame in the players' air tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So lots of power five tests so far in the non-converschedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then really, the big news is not basketball related specifically, but West Virginia related.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Country Road is taken off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Giant Denver's song, of course, it's one where
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[SPEAKER_01]: baseball season, those clips of how it was sung on the Hill there in Morgan Town, how it was sung all the way to the college world series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the starting point, and now the U.S. men's national team in the World Cup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: their co-opting country roads and their planet after when this, you know, I don't know if you're a soccer person or a football person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my favorite thing to root for outside of West Virginia basketball is the U.S. Miss National Team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their playing country roads, they're still in the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're in the round of 16.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we have a country road year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we just keep this momentum going country roads world cup then country roads in the fall with football country roads West Virginia soccer country roads Ross Hides season two
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[SPEAKER_01]: baseball, run a bag, do another college world series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just make it a year of country roads take me home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's just own this until I'm sure Texas Tech is working on buying the rights to country road take me home from the Denver estate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they'll put it at a high price.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But until that day, West Virginia gets to be a part of celebrations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it happened with baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's see if we can keep it going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love that for football, basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's ride the wave of country road momentum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of awesome, return guests, more of somebody else talking than me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mount near Paul, return to the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna draft, we're gonna do a fantasy draft of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: mountain near point guards from the 2000s with the excitement of myocadler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's draft point guards and just say names maybe you haven't thought about in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my 2000s mountain near point guard draft with mountain near Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, mountain near Paul, welcome back to Unreasonable down to podcast about West Virginia University Basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just did this yesterday on my show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did as a little home and home in July.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thanks for coming back to the program.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know you're probably focused in on year two of Rich Rod.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the next thing that's coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a basketball podcast and we're getting year two of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: coming off of the college basketball crown victory give me your thoughts and your excitement level for year two of Ross Hodge and this new roster that he's bringing in very excited as you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously there are questions and we still don't have all the answers, but I think with what we know so far there's a lot of
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even Rim Baker went on the three guys for the game podcast yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They dropped an episode and he said, just how different this team looks and how much that everybody's kind of bought in and invested and how how good the team looks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, obviously, I'd be off of that and, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a year that could go so many different ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It depends on how many different guys we see, but I at the end of the day, I think this is a team that could be a very sneaky, sneaky team, like in the big 12 potentially, maybe sneaking up into that top five or six range by the time it's all said and done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can see that and being a team that can make some noise in the tournament, whatever the iteration that's going to look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely in a drought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: NCAA tournament drought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'd be awesome to get back there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure Paul, you're excitement level of lines with the incoming freshmen, Miles Sadler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you've watched Paul and listen to Paul, you know where he stands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you haven't heard Paul, give us your thoughts, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm talking up, Sadler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me your thoughts on what you think of Sadler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as a prospect and what will he do in the 2026, 2027 season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're talking about guys that major accolades and honors who's entering his freshman year at West Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Five star recruit, he didn't start out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a kid that's been doubted every step of the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every step of the way, my whole settler has been doubted by people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's had to prove people wrong, it's too small, he can't shoot, and he just continues to get better at all of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a step back jumper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a little bit of a mid-range game he can go to from the right hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he can do things now that maybe, whenever I first found out about miles, I was told, the first certain person a person ever told me about him was he's one of the better on-ball defenders in high school basketball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went into that thinking, okay, this is just hard nose, dependent, depends of five star kid that can play some point guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's not what I saw at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's hard-nosed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is everything to me and I think that he's only improving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you look at what he was then maybe a year ago and has become, you know, let's say from when he was on the Canadian team, uh, FEMA under 17, that iteration of Mao Sadler and what he's become this year, two totally different kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he went from well points of game 13 points of game there to,
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[SPEAKER_00]: way better now to games where i mean he's put up twenty six twenty eight twenty nine twenty games and you know i've been a vista really came into his own averaging over six real about sixteen a game i think it was there five assists four rebounds over two and a half steals a game and obviously had his pick of the litter so you're talking about a five star recruit top twenty-five player kit you know nationally um... the highest rated on our history as we've spoken about josh and
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the EYBL stand out, uh, you know, tournament that he had, the chick, the, the, the, uh, Chipotle, National Championship all the way to the Nike hoop summit, and everything in between has been
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[SPEAKER_00]: how do you top that and then he does it and then how do you and now he's going to the Chris Balkan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like I just every time I look up, Miles Sadler is eat more and my expectations are, I think he can be and I said this out loud on my show, our version of AJ DeBonza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In other words,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he ever be as talented as AJ DeBonce, so that's obviously that would be high for Bonce to say, but to say that he couldn't be our freshman version of him or Corey from Stanford even, absolutely he can be that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason he can't be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's being mocked in his first round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is a kid that can be generational for us, Josh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Eccore is a great kind of comparison of just freshman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a freshman this year, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it gets drafted and we saw them in Las Vegas, really good player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully our pieces around our guy have a little bit more to bring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: with, you know, you were talking about Sadler and we're going to be talking about it on unreasonable doubt quite a bit as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I brought you in in honor of Miles Sadler, we're going to do a draft of Mount near point guards from the 2000s and before we get into it, and I will allow you to pick Miles Sadler's side unseen if you want to pick him in the draft, like just based on your excitement, you can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but let me ask you,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not throwing picks, but where do you think Sadler will land in, if we did this draft next off season, where do you think Miles Adler is going to land on the list?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Top four, top two, top ten, what are your thoughts?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you had to guess today, it's July.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, yeah, I mean, playing the guessing game, I don't think he'll be jib on small.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he'll be that level, you know, in his first year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe impact-wise, you can have a similar impact, but not the scoring impact, maybe, is what I'm trying to get to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could be top four, top five, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know how much research you did for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did a little bit on mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with the 2000s, we've got a lot of one here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of really good guys, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of really good guys, and a lot of one here, guys, where you are drafting based on,
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[SPEAKER_01]: a guy's one year and then goes to another place or he just says last spot before he goes to whatever he's going to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do a snake draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have five picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll put the teams on the internet and we'll see and let the internet crown the champion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Call you're the guest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you the answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to draft first?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to draft second?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me Jibon small for the first pick in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go see you're coming hot out of the gate and you're going Jibon small.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me if you're one one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well he does everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He literally does everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's in the stratosphere with with Javan Carter defensively like you can make the connection it's not he's not he's not Javan but yeah he's definitely you know he's another Javan I guess but you know he's definitely a very good defender maybe a more like a Joe two-sant Thai style defender you know he's in that he's a defensive guard a play defense and then offensively the year he had with West Virginia
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, was there a better guard in the big 12?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, there wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's saying a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Consider the big 12 is as talented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And look what these he just did, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just had a great rookie year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we haven't had a guard do as well as he's done outside of the two that we all know about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I think there are definitely options there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he gives you everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gives you defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gives you a lead, three point shooting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gives you, you know, the ability to get to the lane and it gives you positional size, 6.3.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think there's just everything there with him that you hit every mark that you're going to need to hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's having an off-game, he can pass it, he can play defense, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I picked you off-small.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not have him at the top of my list, but you made the strong argument of why he's your one one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the next two picks, Paul, and I got to go with another Javan here, and we're talking two time national defense of players of the year, we're in all American.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four years at WVU three sweet sixteenths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to go with Jibon Carter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was at the top of my list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fairly, you're unfairly his longevity him, you know, him and Daxter kissing the floor, emotional with Huggins on senior day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just going back and watching the clips,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I took him for granted at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I read it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But of the negatives while he was playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as with everything on my basketball takes with age, it's like, dude, you should appreciate him in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just his ability to take a couple of dribbles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's pulling the three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got it off with consistency, shot it well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, Javon Carter's NBA pro just signed another contract with the magic system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those checks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Javon Carter's the guy for me, uh, and he's my first pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I get the pick again Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've got a different dilemma here because I really think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as you go through these guys, it's like a top four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought we'd have, one of us was gonna have to decide who's gonna get Jibon smaller, who's gonna be, if Jibon's ball's gonna be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now I've got to down between two guys, and I have to go with my heart, which is I'm gonna go with Jibon Stateon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, two time, all big 12 first team that jump shot the way he could rise and just like a frog just and just get that shot off wherever he wanted the classic finish against Kansas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, in the first year of press Virginia, really kind of transition from the end of Kevin Jones and truck Bryant into press Virginia's era, like, he was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And before Javans small and and do some of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to throw picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that that was in my top tier of guys as far as the point guard position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to go to Juan state and he was amazing in his time at WBU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so that's who I'm going with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Doc on one state and out you couldn't go wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't go wrong with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as far as college players goes on this list of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, he's he did everything well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He, you know, he was elite midrange game elite again to the rack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's a guy that scored 15 or 16 a game in college, especially coming over from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... dating to uh... i mean look at the year that he had with west virginia was really good and uh... you know it's just one of those guys that you wish we had more time at west virginia yeah one was it that's that's for sure all right you got the next two picks Paul and i i think i've got a guess on who who the next pick's gonna be because this is a good one with yep
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, obviously Miles McBride, obviously you've got to go there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no doubt about it, you know, two of the better years you've seen a kid have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what he was from his freshman year to his sophomore year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a huge jump, you know, in a kid that
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what was he and he and Javan Carter, your apart from playing with each other did Javan leave two years to your difference?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's two years to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and there were other guys that just missed each other between those two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was almost like if it would have been nowadays where people can get waivers and who knows what could have happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, can you imagine a team with miles and Javan on it, what would have been?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, yeah, I mean, obviously miles
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[SPEAKER_00]: is what he's turned it you now is incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The year he just had incredible, one of the most important pieces off of a team that won it all, and has turned himself into one of the best snipers in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have that at West Virginia, not to that level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't, if he played out West Virginia, he would be a 40% plus 3.0 shooter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, he was still good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was just coming along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Athletic defensive size, everything you could want in a guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the more I talk about it, the more I wonder, should I have picked Joe on small over him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, it's close between the two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would, if you told me Javansmo had the better career by the end of it, I wouldn't be totally shocked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's going to be making it hard on whoever wants to come after his crown, because he's definitely surpassed Javanskard as far as NBA career goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that does, we're talking about college, obviously, but you know, you can't, now that we know what they've done in the NBA, it's hard on the factored in miles, obviously, a big piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if I'm going for another piece here,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got two pretty good sized guards here, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about size, position, position, flexibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I need to do to contribute it anywhere any place any time, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me the way you're going with this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honor half, baby?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honor half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, a guy that can absolutely light you up and is a much better defender than people given credit for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: much better defender than people from credit for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think honor half is a fun pick for this strapped in this spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: honor half did not see that coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I I picture him as a two guard, but he absolutely brought the ball down the court and played plenty of point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is one year with with WVU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So great pick had a fantastic season left with the crown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think he qualifies?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I want to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He definitely is a point guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play in the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing the two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes call it a play-up ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, two to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it starts at an out a little bit, but I feel like the pick here is truck Bryant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To go truck Bryant, 13 all big 12 in a senior year, part of the final four run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: bowling ball could get to the rim just one demeanor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just, you know, I picture him in Massachusetts, where a garden 2010 big East champion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's good years hitting the ties playing in the background.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All these guys from New York and New Jersey and just good memories of trucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bummer that he was injured in the in the in the tournament run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that may bring up another guy on this list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He may get picked because of that, but I'm gonna go with truck Bryant for my third pick
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm going to have to combo this Paul and go it's not it's not the body of work but the peaks of this guy is why I'm picking him in my fourth spot and it's three games it really is it's it's the Duke game in 2008 this guy was amazing
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was him and the eliteate game against Kentucky with truck injured stepping up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm never going to forget this, that the year he had to sit for most of the year, he's out there with that growth plate injury in his shoulder, gets fouled against Davidson, shooting free throws with the opposite hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like this is my guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a crazy person and I'm talking about Joe Mazulla.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is, again, body of work, not a ton of starts, career-wise, wasn't snift as an NBA draft prospect, but for in a mountain near uniform, Paul, in those big games, beating Duke, what's Virginia does to do that very often?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't beat Kentucky to get to the final four, and the man who happened to bring his best in those games,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is is Joe Mazula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, you know, he's an NBA champion now as a coach, but I'm looking at what he did at Western Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other guys had better full careers, more stats that they've had in their time in Morgan town, but but the highs of Joe Mazula were the best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm going to go, Mazula for my fourth pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to go a lot of arms, Dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lionel arms dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going back to the Cadillet days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, I remember the defense of player he was, you know, you have me really going back in the memory banks for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had time to day to the research, but I mean, thankfully, this is something I know a lot about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just sneaks in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he's in 2000, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or 2000, he's in 2001.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, but I mean, you know, just all big East guy, I mean, look, you know, but uh, and he, he was right before hard getting those guys, but yeah, so, and then Chafino after that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, you know, and what a controversial picture Pino could be in this list, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he had a lot of talent as well, but, you know, we've got names, we can do that all day, but I'm struggling here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there are guys that you could go with that would be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is your one-year guys, and then kind of what I'm describing of like steady eddies, of like guys who wasn't flashy, but played the point guard role well, did it for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you'll see him in the all-time stats categories I have to go with and look I you know in my heart this is probably number one and he's you know for this for his size was an elite rebounder and a dude that just came to work every single day I got to go with my gansy and one of my spots my gansy point point guard my gansy
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, he played the two, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, was the two a point garden?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I guess I have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to exnate Gansy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to give you Gansy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK. Fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And people can write in or say, hey, Joshua remember when he was playing point?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember a ton of point guard, my Gansy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely handles a ball a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I get what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously Deris Nichols was the point guard on those teams, but I felt like, you know, try to get Gansy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you want me to do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You tried?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You tried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to come up with a spot it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So give me take two on your foot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go with Miles Sadler for one of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to give me Sadler, I'll take what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew you'd do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew you'd go sadly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to take Sadler for one of those just for the pure upside of an all and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's your team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I had one more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll recap them here in a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I knew you'd do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Mount Nepal has miles sadler sight unseen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Time and my mountain here point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the enthusiasm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got the last pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to be bummed in the honorable mention, but I'm going to go with another heart favorite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with the six big 12, six man of the year in 2016, 17, to Reak Philip, just vibes of a guy who played both sides of the ball, played hard, made that key shot in the NCAA tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe against Buffalo, it was against Buffalo, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: dog like one of those in that press Virginia era would not want to see him on the other side of the ball if I had it Other guys again more stats, but just a I enjoyed watching this man play
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with to read Philip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my fifth pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, so let me break it down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I've lost this because you have a lot of good names.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I goofed on the second pick, but Paul's team of mountainer poor guys are the 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Javon Small, Doos McBride, Onerhoff,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lionel Armstead, and Miles Sadler, and then my team, Devon Carter, Joann Staten, Truck Bryant, Joe Mazula, and Tareek Philip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll let the internet decide Paul honorable mentioned guys you mentioned there's nickels he's in my study at a category Joe air bear those both of those guys played pointy yep you got Joe too sought the one year Jonathan Hargett is a terrible year presa great stats curcisa one year
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keidry and Johnson three years, I mean, but, and then you're getting into like Jordan McCabe and Beatle Bowen all like probably good memories of guys, but those are in the honorable mention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Miles Adler as, and, and if we do this next year, Paul, let's see where he's at on the list, but I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got him in the top 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you think you did?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What, what are your, you hear the teams?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's the winner on this one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mean you're five again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Javon Carter, he was two-time national defense player of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Javon Staten, truck Bryant, Joe Mazula to Reak Philip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like I've like my five with your five and all and in a five fucking game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I truly do, I mean, the forest names go like it just depends on how you're looking at this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're talking about names and how they make me feel, it's hard for me to bed against your list honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, your names are like really resonate with me as a matter of fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the body of work, you've got, you know, one of the best three points shooting as far as number of three points shots made in a season in honor of half year of Javans mall two years of doos McBride like you got guys that almost like a comet they were here real quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: did great things and just kind of sad that we're probably very likely be a comment as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He might be as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, but I think your names are going to pop better on the graphic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll find out together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, this has been fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait for the 2026, 2027 season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining me again on Unreasonable Doubt, a podcast about mountaineer basketball.
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