#227 Petty Squabbles & Parenting Backflips

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Speaker 1: I have a question. And this is not me thinking this. This has come from my mother.
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Speaker 2: This is going to be bad.
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Speaker 1: So just know that the arrogance here is not coming from within.
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Speaker 2: You can say that ten times. I'm not going to believe you.
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Speaker 1: I've got my haircut and my mum thinks that I look like someone.
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Speaker 3: Can we guess?
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Speaker 4: Can we guess?
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Speaker 3: Start the show and we'll guess.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Do Dating Dads.
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Speaker 3: I am Maddie J and I'm Ash And.
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Speaker 1: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it is the bad.
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Speaker 3: And the related.
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Speaker 1: And we will never give advice.
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Speaker 3: But are you Maddie J.
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Speaker 2: Let's find out.
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Speaker 3: Jim Carrey No, you give very Jim Carrey early days, Jim Carrey vibe. Thank you because you're goofy, You're silly, You're a silly boy.
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Speaker 1: I'm a big silly boy. Dick. What do you got?
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Speaker 5: I don't know why, but I'm getting especially because it's from your mom.
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Speaker 4: Patrick swayzey, Oh.
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Speaker 1: Is that it take that he's loving I'm married.
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Speaker 3: Look I heard he has heaps of STD's that guy, he's dead arrogance.
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Speaker 2: It's got to be someone that you think Tim robuts.
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Speaker 3: He's a fucking handsome man. He's on that koala ad who yes, really turned?
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Speaker 4: I mean I saw him on the Bachelor.
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Speaker 2: What else did you see?
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Speaker 5: Big?
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Speaker 3: Can I have one more girl?
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Speaker 1: One more go? He's from Brisbane.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he's a local.
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Speaker 1: He's a local. He's a local from Brisbane.
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Speaker 4: Cricketer.
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Speaker 1: He's an actor. Should I tell you.
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Speaker 3: How did you get actor from the word cricketer?
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Speaker 1: She said?
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Speaker 3: Is he a creator?
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Speaker 2: Is like, yep, he's an actor.
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Speaker 1: I was like correcting her.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I.
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Speaker 1: Was nudging her back on track.
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Speaker 2: And then everyone get ready to cringe.
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Speaker 1: Okay, ready, I am the new Jacob Lordie.
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Speaker 3: I knew you were going to say that. We've mentioned it on the show before.
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Speaker 1: And Laura laughed in my mother's face and she was like, I see the resemblance.
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Speaker 6: It's very You're the most handsome mind in the world. It's like April with Oscar. It's just like I keep doing this little test, which I'm going to film it because that's fucking funny.
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Speaker 3: Is I'll just be like, hey, babe, can you come here to see if Oscar follows the shadow? Yeah, like a shadow like he loves his mummy so much. She's just like shadowing her. So I was like, oh, babe, come here, and like she walks in and he's just.
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Speaker 1: Like, I love it. What is it? I love how you're like cooking up experiments at home, like day fifty four and Oscar has followed mommy into the bedroom.
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Speaker 3: And your mom's like day one of referring to my son as Jacob E lordie.
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm honored. I don't see the resembl it's myself.
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Speaker 4: You need to get an earring or two?
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Speaker 1: Does you have earrings?
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Speaker 3: Do you have?
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Speaker 1: If you ever had us pissed, I wanted to funk. I wanted to so bad.
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Speaker 3: I had my boat mine done? Did you look?
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Speaker 1: How old?
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Speaker 3: Thirty four?
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Speaker 1: Do you start a ring? Like loop?
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Speaker 3: Little start? I had black spaces, little black spaces? What's that?
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Speaker 4: What's I was pretty sick the spaces.
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Speaker 3: EM know they're tiny.
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Speaker 1: Though, Oh that's such anick. What you cry is off to sleep every night your bedroom?
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Speaker 3: I still do thank you. This is awkward. Yes, you just referred to yourself as Jacob A laudie.
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Speaker 2: I know that's me.
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Speaker 3: And also yesterday that's referred to dinner as Dindin's.
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Speaker 1: And you said, let's use that term more frequently.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was sarcasm.
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Speaker 1: I thank you, Vick.
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Speaker 3: Mommy, can I have some dimins? Is that what you do? Jacobal lord is hungry? Your eyebrown piss? Wow?
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Speaker 5: You are married to a jeweler those so you have like no end of like earring material.
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Speaker 1: If Marley is pomping for her ears to be pierced.
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Speaker 3: That's a good question. When is that going to happen? I honestly, does she want to have a good miget An idea? Does Laura want to use me for her next earing campaign?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not how beautiful ears, but loads not the right fit. And also, can I just say thanks to everyone on my stories who agreed with my mummy about Jacob a lordie And also just a quick shout out to my mummy Ellie. Nana who lives with us, has been working very hard lately and just such a lovely presence when she starts dropping those comments in front of Laura on the couch at nighttime.
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Speaker 3: If you think din Din's is a nick, please write in and tell us we'll just just put this a bed.
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Speaker 1: That's a I can't say anything on this podcast anymore. It's a democracy, you said, something you raised a question ash and just one one sec. Oh, I wouldn't rink that ifazy, oh got something here that I've just brought in.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that was delicious.
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Speaker 1: That is a cup of milk.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I did put a little little post up to see went nowhere because people are obviously like, this guy's an idiot?
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Speaker 1: Would you ask?
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Speaker 3: I just asked if drinking a cup of milk is a fully grown man is an ick?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? And where's your take on it?
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Speaker 3: I had tim Tams at the time, but I didn't put them in the picture because I was just like, I wonder if do you want to not not necessarily no less unless you've got some tim tams, have a big sip of that milk.
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Speaker 2: No, I've got some coked zero over here.
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Speaker 4: Vick, No, thank you. I don't like milk playing.
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Speaker 3: Is it full cream? You do?
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Speaker 1: Love? Absolutely love full I don't think I.
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Speaker 3: Thought you going to get a milk mistaf Wow, your bones are going to be nice and strong.
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Speaker 1: That mummy is just it's delicious.
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Speaker 2: We just add to mother's milk.
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Speaker 1: I wish I haven't.
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Speaker 3: Had a full glass of full cream milk for a while, and I did with my tin tams that's a good combo. Did you dip it?
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Speaker 2: I did the Tim Tam slam?
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Speaker 3: Where you do?
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Speaker 1: There could go another one of those.
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Speaker 3: I forgot that you were drinking it. I look back and he was all gone, sorry as whoa, that's good gear.
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Speaker 1: Laura hates it when I have a big glass of milk.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. People, people really are against it, really hates it.
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Speaker 1: She's just like, what are you doing? Because she can only drink soy? But that to me, like, that's a treat. I've just that to me is just she.
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Speaker 2: Can only drink so that's called jealousy. My friend.
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Speaker 4: Ah yeah, Matt also likes formula milk.
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Speaker 3: Remember, oh that's right, judge, right now you're walking, why get some milk? Milki's for let me live. Do you know who would love you? Frank? And for those listening, Frank is my father in law, who is a milk dealer, who still gives my seven year old baby's bottle because he can't.
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Speaker 1: I guess, do you know my granddad was actually a milkman. Yeah. Didn't go to the didn't go to the war, didn't drafted to go to war because he was such an important person of the community.
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Speaker 2: Is this where the saying comes from. It's just like you're the milk Ones kid.
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Speaker 3: Go on, have you never heard that saying? Yeah, well you just said my great.
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Speaker 1: I just questioned it just because it's just fun. A little update on the studio, Vic, I have to make you aware of the fact that Ash and I had our first fight over the studio on the weekend.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Oh god.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't a fight.
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Speaker 4: Do I need to break it up?
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Speaker 3: No? It was more like Matt tried to dominate me and then I stood my ground, which I don't often do, but I was like.
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Speaker 1: Can I not have any input on the studio given you've you've been designing, building, organizing the whole thing.
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Speaker 3: I just had, well, someone's going to do something or nothing will get done.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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Speaker 4: I mean Dan's doing most of it, damn it.
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Speaker 1: And for those wondering, Dan is Vic's beautiful hus Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So this was the stoush. Matt wanted to paint all the walls that green color, and I mean all of them, Vic, thoughts I like the green, I'd like the No, that's not the that's not the complaint.
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Speaker 2: That's not the complaint.
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Speaker 3: It sounds like my side of the story and then you have the floor to speak. It is what I've got to deal with. That green. Love that green, Okay, I like it, And I said, yeah, we cool to do a wall in that green. Not all four walls.
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Speaker 1: There's three there.
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Speaker 2: There will be one, two, three, four walls.
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Speaker 4: Matthew, So what color were the other walls?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 3: I was like, my process was, let's get it white as a blank canvas, and then we can add some color to it where we see fit. And I did. Honestly, I would have some of that color in there because I really like that green.
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Speaker 2: That I'm not a huge fan of that.
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Speaker 3: I'm more of a fan of to the purple behind him. I forget this is an audio meeting.
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Speaker 4: Okay, purple looks so nice.
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Speaker 1: Fine, you look great.
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Speaker 3: Shut up a complexion, okay, Matt said. We got to swim with the tide. Okay.
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Speaker 2: We've swum with the tide for three years.
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Speaker 3: Okay, and look where we are. Yeah, I know that, but at some point we've got to spread our wings and people need to follow our path.
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Speaker 2: I'll put it to you. Vic regardless of the color, okay, but having.
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Speaker 3: All four walls that one color, which is not it's not it's meant to stand out that color right across all the four walls.
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Speaker 2: Thoughts on that.
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Speaker 5: I really like that color. I think it's that's our uniform.
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Speaker 3: Totally agree, totally agree.
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Speaker 5: There's I think what I've got in my head. There's a picture which will put up on our Socialists of what the studio could look like that Matt sent with AI. And it's more like a peacock green, but it is all the walls, but it looks amazing.
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Speaker 1: We'll put this all on Socialist so the listeners, the dotors can have their input because ultimately, because the.
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Speaker 2: Second green color you sent me did really like, which was.
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Speaker 3: A bitter, which wasn't so a paler if you will, my argument was, I think all the walls painted the one color I couldn't. I could just physically couldn't sit in that room.
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Speaker 2: And that's just me.
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Speaker 3: Okay. So he attacked me about that, and I stood. I stood my ground, which I don't use. So come to oh lord, Matt, I'll let you get away with this farm.
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Speaker 1: That's that level of patronizing is not helping anyone today.
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Speaker 2: Ass okay, I take that.
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Speaker 3: Back, Tyrant down before me. Sometimes he was, do you know the first thing he said when he rang let's go to battle, It's like, WHOA, chill out. It's not that.
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Speaker 1: Serious, as I made Ash like my dick.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that never happened.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm hearing both of you, and the fact that Ash is saying he can't physically work.
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Speaker 4: We do need him to work when we're in the studio. You need me, we need we.
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Speaker 1: Need to consider as we do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know. And then he was like, well, you do what you want with your word, so that's what I think we do. I think fine, And I said that's fine if you want to have if I said, it doesn't mean I don't want to have that color in there.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: I was like, it's overwhelming. And then he sent me a photo of a picture of another podcast studio that I referred to as tacky, but he took it very personally.
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Speaker 4: Because it doesn't want to bed.
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Speaker 3: It looked like a boy's bedroom. I think we need some maturity about it. And I get swimming with the time which we have.
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Speaker 1: Ash wants maturity. Can we just let's just have that on record time? Snap that right now?
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you could tell that I'm developing Okay, the character arc of me is developing. If you want to stay stagnant, that's up to you. Now, I agree with swimming with the type, but I said at some point, I don't want to be like everyone else, which I think is a fair point.
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Speaker 1: I just think it's important to know someone who is a photographer.
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Speaker 3: God's gonna get dragged into this. I think a happy medium happy because he was like, I'm not backing down.
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Speaker 1: That never happened. I never spoke. I would not have that time on record. I was literally like, hey, Ash, what do you think And he's like, he was like, get off me, some fucking I'm trying to batch in my mouth.
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Speaker 4: Okay, here's what I'm hearing.
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Speaker 5: I feel like I'm the mother and you are my two children, and that.
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Speaker 3: You're don't gener us okay.
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Speaker 5: And you're moving into a new space together, like a bedroom, and you want to have different things. I think, Ash, if you want a wall that's not the green, we can do that.
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Speaker 2: And Matt, thank you.
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Speaker 4: You want a wall that is the green, we can do that.
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Speaker 3: I agree saying it like that.
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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that, But you're saying we'll just do things separately.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I want people to know that's not how you're allowed speaking.
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Speaker 3: And April was like, do you want me to go after him? Babe?
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Speaker 2: I was like, nah, I've got this. It's fine.
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Speaker 3: And I don't often stare my ground on things, to be honest, but this is new year, new me, and I'm working on myself. That's healthy and mature of me. But let's forge our own path.
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Speaker 5: I think we need to put it to a public boat very and see what the dotors think, because they're the ones that have to look at us.
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Speaker 1: Just want to let people know that there is no risk of this podcast ending.
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Speaker 3: That's what you think, buddy, Let's go to battle. That's how I start. Who starts a conversation like that?
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Speaker 5: I think if Matt says let's battle, that's him like being jovial.
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Speaker 4: He doesn't mean let's battle.
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Speaker 1: Oh god, I did have a knife when I said that.
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Speaker 3: He was he was. He made a phone call to try and dominate the situation. And I called you.
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Speaker 1: I called you to talk it through. That's and what and how you perceived that as being an act of war? And I called you to talk it.
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Speaker 3: Through like this? Do you would you say that?
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Speaker 1: Your tone was like this like this.
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Speaker 3: Do you believe that his time would have been like that?
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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I think I need to be on all calls from now on.
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Speaker 1: Let the dotors decide, actually have a little gripe, if I may so. Turn one of school, we thought we're going to strip it right back. No extra activities, no sport, We're just gonna let the girls have school in school alone.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking for you before you the girls, I was like that I would like.
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Speaker 1: To do gymnastics, but we thought, hey, we're now term two. I think a term two. The girls have shown some interests in gymnastics, and I'm like, great, they want to do something. They've shown interest, they're asking for it, Like I will give them what they want because there's no better feeling than the girls having an interest. You enable it and you're like, this is a beautiful thing.
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Speaker 2: They have tried gymnastics before, though, haven't they.
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Speaker 1: They liked it, and then they kind of got offered.
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Speaker 2: And then they were during kindy and we.
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Speaker 1: Did soccer with Lola, and then after a few lessons she got offered. Stupid backpackers And you're paying so much money for an experience where everyone's left unhappy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the backpackage.
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Speaker 2: Soccer coaches that were just like thought they were in the UAFA.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were doing like Premier league start training drills for four year olds. Yeah. I was like this is too much. So the girls want to do gymnastics. They now did the trial. I committed full term payment and I'm like, this is great.
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Speaker 3: They did it full trial, full day trial. Loved it. Full day.
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Speaker 1: Afternoon. I trained for nine hours, so they had one session. But at gymnastics, what they do I don't know if this is a regular thing. There's a big wheel, like a big wheel that has like a little like little dangly thing and he goes.
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Speaker 3: Like wheel Fortune, We thank you, what a great show. We should revamp that bringing it back. Two dads real Wheel of Fortune.
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Speaker 1: And so what the kids do?
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Speaker 3: Give away holidays, elements.
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Speaker 1: There are prizes, but they're like kind of like a slime bucket. That's another problem. But once they finished, the girls walk out, they spin the wheel, see if they land on the major prize, which there's only like a couple of them pepped like three on the wheel, very hard to get.
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Speaker 2: What's a major prize?
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Speaker 1: A little slime bucket? And like a little like fidget spinner.
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Speaker 3: That's it, fig spinner, I can get behind slime bucket. That's not a major, that's a major. Throw it straight at the bin and so.
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Speaker 1: They walk out, They spin the wheel, spin it once, they don't win because it's hard to win, and then they leave. Now every time the last two weeks when they haven't won, my kids are like, but I just want to spin it again, and I'm like, well, that's eat one spin and that is it. And they're hysterical because they haven't yet won a prize on the wheel.
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Speaker 3: And also they're spinning it, and then they're like, all right, get out now, you've got to deal with this, right. It's like when Macy doesn't get a draw for in Uno, I've got to like give a one at the end.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is a lesson. You don't always win important life lesson. We're going to get out of here. I have children like on the stomach, punching the floor, being like, this is the worst day ever.
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Speaker 2: Haven't had to witness someone else winning and not them?
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Speaker 1: Well, because there's the class all leaves at the same time, and so there's always one person who wins. So they see what it's like, they see the glory of the winning.
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Speaker 3: It's a recipe for disaster.
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Speaker 1: I just think we should remove the wheel. I don't want to tell them how to operate their business.
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Speaker 3: Who implemented the wheel?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do.
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Speaker 2: Let's go into battle with them.
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Speaker 3: We should get them.
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Speaker 1: I want to steal the wheel because I said to the girls, because we're driving home in the car, everyone's screaming, I'm getting told's the worst day. Yeah, but I've just paid like sixty bucks for this experience, well one hundred and twenty because it's two of them, and maybe ecceating the fee.
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Speaker 3: You should be able to it should be for the parents, so the parents get to spin with a chance to win the money back for the lesson.
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Speaker 1: That is genius.
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Speaker 3: Going to be like, you're a fucking idiot.
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Speaker 4: No, I was just processing that. That was very good.
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Speaker 3: Was in shock.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: I think that's good gear.
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Speaker 1: That's great.
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Speaker 3: So if you're listening gymnast people, one sorry, but two Also, it's a recipe for disasters.
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Speaker 1: I've said that. Any more tears and there's no more gymnastics because I'm like, I'm not paying money for this, you double down on that. But then I'm like, it's like it's a week away. So we had a good conversation. They were like, okay, Dad, Like we'll suck it up after like an hour of tantrums. And I'm like, will they remember this conversation next week? Once they see the wheel, once they see that bright shiny.
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Speaker 3: Tool vision in the corner.
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Speaker 1: They'd be like, must spin it.
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Speaker 3: Now. What you could do as well is maybe have like you can get one on your phone, and you could be like if they'd lose, and then maybe have it with all like prizes, like.
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Speaker 1: But then now'll steal my phone and I phone on and they're they're like on the pokeing machine, just like I want to get there.
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Speaker 5: Another thing, I don't understand why they have it, but if I could put a different spin on.
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Speaker 3: That's it's a good observations. Why do they have it?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that confuses me in the first place, But I would say the first time it is going to be bad, that's a given. But the more they do it, the more they get used to the feeling. As what Jen would say, and it's resilient building. And what it actually reminds me of is that Bluey episode with Past the Parcel and how little Bingo keeps losing every single time, and then by the end she's good at losing.
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Speaker 1: She just accepts that she's a loser.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, Loui's not real.
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Speaker 4: I know, but I like to think that it's.
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Speaker 1: Good life lessons. I want my kids to be resilient or is.
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Speaker 3: It like every week they're going to be disappointed? Because if they're not learning and they're just taking it as disappointment, does that mean you're continuously letting it kid get disappointed If they're never going to win with the chance of maybe winning once, is it worth it? No?
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Speaker 1: No? And then I've got buddy slime in the car. That's another story. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think like if they spun it at the start, like hey, you know, they wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: They wouldn't know, do you know why? Because it'd become their problem bastards?
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Speaker 3: So what now? Where are we at?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Do I let them spin it next week?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right?
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Speaker 3: I reckon if they lose, you cause a scene, you throw the tantrum and go, how do you like it?
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Speaker 1: Not that I want to compare is a dangerous thing to do. But I look at all you other kids, and I'm like, they're all like, lose move on. I'm like, why am I the only ones screaming and kicking right now?
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Speaker 3: Have they lost anything before?
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, you said that very tentatively, very high pitched.
00:20:11
Speaker 5: That's telling Molly she's gonna lose a tooth so that she doesn't get upset that Lola is losing it to Okay.
00:20:16
Speaker 1: Moving on, Hey, Poppy go, I know where the problem lies, Vitoria. Do you know the MVP of the family right now?
00:20:22
Speaker 3: Buster? No?
00:20:23
Speaker 1: He sucks joking. I love, I love Buster. Buster is doing great, but Poppy is doing even better. She is being a freaking legend.
00:20:30
Speaker 3: That photo of her in the what's that chair that she was in outside with the sunny's inflatable.
00:20:36
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit here and say that other parents with young children should do the same thing, because every child is different, and I think when it comes to sleep, bloody hell, it's tough. It's tough. But I just want to say a lot of people flagged that it's hard with the baby in the bassinette next to your bed in your bedroom because they can smell the milk they know you're there, and the scent.
00:21:00
Speaker 3: They're like bloodhounds.
00:21:03
Speaker 1: And they wake up lots. And so they were like, put her in another room.
00:21:07
Speaker 2: And I was thinking on the peloton.
00:21:09
Speaker 1: I know the polates machine plenty, she is wedged in the.
00:21:16
Speaker 3: She's in between the peloton, and she's going to grow if she grows up to be really into fitness.
00:21:21
Speaker 1: We know what. But I thought, if she wakes up, it's more effort because you've got to leave the room and then you wake up more. But it has been a game changer last.
00:21:31
Speaker 2: Night not having her in there.
00:21:33
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I'm sorry to anyone who's struggling.
00:21:35
Speaker 4: I told you so, just saying you did, you did?
00:21:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got Oscar out in two weeks out of our room. It was fell off his chair, and it makes it was a bit different because I slept because we had Oscar.
00:21:45
Speaker 2: Obviously, what was he like two?
00:21:47
Speaker 3: So he's still at that age where he might wake up here and there. But I slept in the lound room for six months, best six months of my life. Sorry, but was was great.
00:21:55
Speaker 2: But yeah, two weeks of Lasko because I was like, fuck, you're so noisy.
00:21:58
Speaker 3: He did noises and they go, oh, it's like, fuck, is there an owl in here?
00:22:04
Speaker 1: They are bloody noisy.
00:22:05
Speaker 3: But yes, I agree, good, good decision last night.
00:22:07
Speaker 1: Didn't wake up once? Yeah, you're so both sorry. Is there any parent out there right now who was like doing multiple wake ups?
00:22:16
Speaker 3: It gets better, it gets better, it gets better. What you put in now is what you'll reap the benefits of later. Whatever ail reword that put it on a T shirt well said, I think signed for some breaking news, Matt.
00:22:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is a bit of a different breaking news today. I actually saw this article last night and it hit a little bit differently, and I'll explain why at the end. Okay, there's been a steady increase in Australian women choosing to have babies later in life, with more mums welcoming children in their forties than ever before.
00:22:45
Speaker 1: Geriatrics is that the geriatric pregnancy.
00:22:48
Speaker 3: I always thought geriatric was much older. It's always said geriatric pregnancy.
00:22:52
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Nan, what are you doing.
00:22:54
Speaker 1: No, it's like if you're twenty nine, they're like, you're a geriatric.
00:22:57
Speaker 3: So we're all geriatrics here.
00:22:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Laura was a geriatric to pregnant.
00:23:01
Speaker 3: This dry.
00:23:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think well mine were as well. To be honest, I think it's anything over thirty five.
00:23:05
Speaker 3: I feel like, can we get that to be addressed.
00:23:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh it's awful.
00:23:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the health minister.
00:23:11
Speaker 3: We'll get a dictionary.
00:23:13
Speaker 1: No, it's medical terms, medical dictionary, so we can continue to change the name.
00:23:19
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, okay, thank you.
00:23:20
Speaker 5: Well. Experts they shifting careers, relationships, and access to fertility support are changing the timeline of motherhood across the country, and statistics show in the last thirty years, the number of mothers who've had babies after thirty five has tripled, with some women revealing they became mums at forty seven and forty four years of age.
00:23:39
Speaker 1: Wow.
00:23:40
Speaker 5: And while these stories highlight a growing trend, they also landed a little differently for me this week.
00:23:46
Speaker 4: Okay, because while.
00:23:48
Speaker 5: It's not breaking news, I did wake up the other morning and I was eleven days late.
00:23:55
Speaker 1: Can I ask a really dumb question when you're late, like how often does.
00:23:59
Speaker 4: That have happen for me? Never?
00:24:01
Speaker 3: So you always it varies from woman to woman, right, whether there whether because some people are like clockwork where some people are obviously.
00:24:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you've got polycystic ovaries or anything like that. It can definitely delay it. Stress can also be a factor. Weight can be a factor.
00:24:17
Speaker 1: Can I ask another really dumb question.
00:24:19
Speaker 4: And there are no dumb questions?
00:24:21
Speaker 1: Well, on another plot, wait to hear it first. I was like, I once said the comment about where the pad sticks to, and some people were like, oh, that's okay, Like it's a bit silly. A few people were like, how the fuck do you not know that? And I'm like, well, no one, you don't know, we don't know.
00:24:35
Speaker 3: That's fair.
00:24:35
Speaker 1: But here we go and ask the question and then I'll deal with the hate later. God, is it every four weeks?
00:24:41
Speaker 5: It's not four weeks. It's like it depends on your cycle. So every woman has a different length of cycle. It can be anything between I think like twenty six and thirty two or twenty nine.
00:24:50
Speaker 3: Point three five days, just like the moon for April or is that just as the moon? Isn't it similar?
00:24:55
Speaker 4: It is similar, but it isn't guided by the moon.
00:24:57
Speaker 1: If you think it is, are you sure about that?
00:24:59
Speaker 4: It is just incidents. I mean some people might think I didn't know that.
00:25:03
Speaker 2: No, that's fair. I think that's a fair question.
00:25:05
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a dumb question whatsoever, because majority of men at home going to their wives or their partners and going how many days? Is it exactly like they're not having that conversation because mainly we're.
00:25:15
Speaker 5: Stupid, and also you don't know what you don't know.
00:25:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, you guys are like, oh I got him.
00:25:27
Speaker 3: Eleven days late.
00:25:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, continue from that point.
00:25:32
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:25:33
Speaker 5: So I asked Dan to go out and get me a pregnancy test because I was like, well, that's the first thing I need to rule out right.
00:25:39
Speaker 1: But how did he respond to that request?
00:25:41
Speaker 6: Oh?
00:25:42
Speaker 4: He was like, what.
00:25:44
Speaker 1: He's had to snip?
00:25:45
Speaker 4: He No, he hasn't.
00:25:48
Speaker 5: And so he went and did drop off for me so I could start working. And he took so long to get back, and every single scenario was going through my head.
00:25:58
Speaker 1: What happened? Did he get? Did he like shops?
00:26:02
Speaker 3: He went to the city traffic.
00:26:04
Speaker 4: I was like, where's his bloody test?
00:26:06
Speaker 5: I was hungry got Honestly, I was using all of my WheelPower to like not Google. I ended up on CHATCHBT and basically because I'm forty one turning forty two next month, I'm looking great.
00:26:17
Speaker 2: By the way, thanks yeah, new hair looks very good.
00:26:20
Speaker 4: Thanks.
00:26:21
Speaker 5: I am right on the brink of whether it can be pregnancy or perimenopause.
00:26:26
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned this.
00:26:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so it was five hours between the time I realized I was eleven days late and the time that I did the pregnancy test.
00:26:36
Speaker 3: What the fuck was Dan?
00:26:37
Speaker 1: Dylan? He went to see the Lord of the Rings.
00:26:40
Speaker 2: Ringsn't do with me?
00:26:42
Speaker 5: Well, I woke up at five am, so everyone was still asleep. But the mental gymnastics that went through my head of every scenario, it was like excitement.
00:26:52
Speaker 4: I was terrified. I was like, my body, I.
00:26:55
Speaker 5: Don't think can physically handle it. My brain, I don't know how the other kids are going to respond. Okay, we're gonna have to sell our investment property. We're gonna have to find another place nice. Dad's gonna have to be like the amount of stuff that went through my head. And then Dan came home with her. He's like here, I'm like, I bet you have nothing about us. I've literally planned our whole life around whether or not I'm pregnant.
00:27:17
Speaker 1: Right now he's driving going.
00:27:20
Speaker 3: It's he would have remember when April was late years ago, this popped up. We were recording a podcast, and April poked her head down the stairs of our old place and was like, oh, I just say now I'm late, remember, and we're like what the fuck? Thankfully, like we weren't ready either, and I had a second me, so I was like, who is he anyway? But like I remember, in that brief period of time, I was like, oh God, God, get my fairs in order, like I've.
00:27:45
Speaker 6: Got you know, Oh my god, I've got to start all over again.
00:27:48
Speaker 3: We're giving away all the shit, the amount. So he would have been in that car trying to switch in radio stations, trying to drown out the head noise and be like, oh.
00:27:57
Speaker 2: My god, we're gonna have to sell everything, you know.
00:28:01
Speaker 3: And then he comes home and he's like he's just like he's opened the door.
00:28:07
Speaker 1: It's just like.
00:28:09
Speaker 3: But inside he's gone.
00:28:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a very cool cub of a collected guy. But then we did the test and it was a very clear nose straight away. But then you're met with a whole other likes.
00:28:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'd literally just planned.
00:28:24
Speaker 5: I also didn't mention during that five hours we also had a fight then about money.
00:28:28
Speaker 4: Of course, of.
00:28:29
Speaker 3: Course you did. It's always the worst time as well.
00:28:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then I was like relieved but also really sad actually because I always did want a third baby, but I kind of just felt like that had passed. And then I think I got a little bit excited that, oh I might have a little baby on my chest at the end of the year, and like the excitement and the joy that that would bring, even though we would also turn our life upside down absolutely.
00:28:55
Speaker 3: Do you are you off the back of that, are you ruling out a third or is it still something that maybe could you would be considering that this article where it's more becoming more and more common, do you think that there is a stage of your life where you would want to take the thought.
00:29:11
Speaker 5: I think we definitely had been for sure up until recently.
00:29:15
Speaker 2: I think morning.
00:29:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's funny because as soon as it was like it had been presented to me, I was like, oh shit, like, my body, our finances are life, We're not ready for this, like, and then when it was taken away.
00:29:30
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, Like, I would have really loved.
00:29:32
Speaker 5: To have that little bubby, but I don't think it's right for us. I think it really would have imploded our life. I actually even thought of latable Jim, because you know how he was so positive about having that third surprise baby.
00:29:43
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, maybe it could be like that. But yeah, like.
00:29:46
Speaker 5: It's such a weird feeling because it was just any other day, like normal, but because I had this one little blip, it really sent my whole brain on it.
00:29:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, you pretty much live your life out in your brain before anything's actually happened.
00:30:02
Speaker 2: You do it Midway through your morning coffee.
00:30:04
Speaker 3: You're like, should I be drinking this coffee? Because I might be, And then all of a sudden you're like, am I'm not gonna be able to drink cofee for a year.
00:30:09
Speaker 2: And it's like all the things that you're not gonna be able to do in that time.
00:30:12
Speaker 3: And then you're like, oh my god, I'm gonna get another bedroom like the snowball I can.
00:30:16
Speaker 4: Imagine, Like yeah, and then.
00:30:18
Speaker 1: He's not going to effect from a third baby, and you're like, whoa.
00:30:21
Speaker 5: But the thing, and this is why Dan and I ended up having the fight, was because if I was pregnant, I wouldn't get rid of it.
00:30:27
Speaker 4: I would really want to have that third baby.
00:30:30
Speaker 1: I would Laura did say she was like, if we had an accident. I think she's kind of like scare me into getting of a sector and she's like, I would have to have it, And I was like, oh my god. But my mum had her fifth baby, Tom shout out to Tom, my younger brother. She was forty three, okay, and she had Tom and he.
00:30:47
Speaker 3: Woul would have been progressive in her time back then. Like that's yeah, that's like now it's it's becoming more normal. But people like my parents, well my parents were pretty late to the thirties in that time, but like people were having kids in like their twenties, like twenty two.
00:31:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun, isn't it. So yeah, that was my week this week.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: How are you feeling now?
00:31:06
Speaker 5: I've kind of come to terms with it, but like I definitely had a few tears.
00:31:10
Speaker 4: Actually.
00:31:10
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if you ever want to talk about it, Matt and I are always here.
00:31:13
Speaker 4: Oh thank you. I've got two big babies right here.
00:31:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:31:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, let's go to battle.
00:31:20
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've noticed, Matt, you did see Oscar yesterday.
00:31:23
Speaker 2: He's shot up a little bit.
00:31:24
Speaker 1: Well, not as much as I thought.
00:31:25
Speaker 3: Thanks.
00:31:26
Speaker 2: I'm sure my parents are short. There's no one tall than my.
00:31:29
Speaker 1: Fan, Macy had had grown I saw Macy, she.
00:31:32
Speaker 2: Got her knees done.
00:31:33
Speaker 3: He's really tall.
00:31:34
Speaker 1: Now now Macy has grown up, she's turning same.
00:31:38
Speaker 3: Same okay, same, yeah, okay, fair enough. But he looks great, thank you athletic. He's skin and bone.
00:31:45
Speaker 1: But he eat.
00:31:45
Speaker 3: He started to eat, you know. And it's like kids don't know how good food is until like, you know, like now, I'm like food and sleep. That's amazing, and they hate both of them for some reason. But I just want to say, I think we have a child prodigy on our hands here. Okay, four games of soccer he's played. Have a guess how many goals he's scored in four games?
00:32:04
Speaker 1: Hard to know if kids are scoring like similar level of goals as like a professional match, or if it's going to be like twenty zerol. I mean, how big is the pitch? So many questions? What size is the goals?
00:32:16
Speaker 3: Just I'll simplify your life and just tell you, okay please. So on Debut scored a hat trick. For those playing at home, a hatrick is three.
00:32:24
Speaker 1: And just for reference, what was the final score of that game?
00:32:27
Speaker 3: For one? So that without him it's a draw. That's how I see it? Yeah, And then the next game doubled up. He scored six six goals. There's an Eastern European dad on our team, and he's like, does he want to come live with us?
00:32:44
Speaker 2: Will nurture this talent? Will nurture it? In four games he scored eighteen goals.
00:32:49
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's very arrogant, isn't it? Tell him to dial it that I know.
00:32:55
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man, you'll be better than me.
00:32:57
Speaker 1: It is it awkward? And you're like, oh, he's got another It's more like that little whip kid get scoring.
00:33:03
Speaker 3: Not just the scoring. He's going shoulder to shoulder with kids and like working kids off the ball. He's slide tackling and taking the ball and no, let I'm like, what's going on here?
00:33:11
Speaker 1: Will he be the next Harry Kull?
00:33:14
Speaker 3: Maybe do we.
00:33:15
Speaker 1: Send him to England?
00:33:16
Speaker 3: But we are undefeated the Vipers, and I want to show you something that one of the duds has made, which I thought this fucking this is this is good gear.
00:33:25
Speaker 7: Vipers on the crowd, Wow up Jo.
00:33:28
Speaker 1: The whole league knows the sound.
00:33:30
Speaker 7: Harrison with the vision for sise decisions on the field. Andre's got the heavy ammunition. It's a done deal with Eliza and j locking down the whole entire zone, Harry B and Rosie running the midfield. They owned Kai, Ivy and Kaya. The front line is pure fire. Oscar Harry W. Clay taking the game higher, Sophie and Charlie.
00:33:46
Speaker 3: That's the finals thing.
00:33:47
Speaker 7: The play's done. The Vipers run the city piece.
00:33:49
Speaker 3: We already won. Wow, Micro is that Ai rappings Ai?
00:33:56
Speaker 1: That's so good, isn't it? That is amazing?
00:33:59
Speaker 4: That is amazing. I love that YE pumped them up before the game.
00:34:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they got you.
00:34:06
Speaker 1: Wow.
00:34:06
Speaker 4: I'm want to do that for Louis rugby teams.
00:34:08
Speaker 3: You should do it. Really.
00:34:10
Speaker 1: Just remind me how you were scouted when you were younger.
00:34:14
Speaker 3: I wasn't scouted.
00:34:15
Speaker 1: Just tell me the story. What happened.
00:34:17
Speaker 3: Well, it was a rainy winter's morning, so I used to.
00:34:21
Speaker 1: Play a bit of soccer and I do remember I must have been twelve, and we went to a tryouts game where, like I think, from my team, three players got chosen. We did a day clinic where we did some skills, played a match. I didn't get picked.
00:34:38
Speaker 3: Oh we've all been there though. Did you have that experience I had that as a child. I wasn't picked for anything either, So like my it's good to have us back, it's have it's good to see us talking again. It was awkward, but now we're good.
00:34:54
Speaker 1: Do you think there is any chance here? You often see it with parents wanting to like give the child the life that they always wanted. Can you implant your dream of being an international soccer star into your child?
00:35:09
Speaker 5: No?
00:35:10
Speaker 3: Okay?
00:35:10
Speaker 2: And this is why. Okay.
00:35:12
Speaker 3: For example, Jack Robinson, professional surfer, had a big fall out with his dad because his dad was that dad.
00:35:18
Speaker 1: It's like Elena Dockitch, Yeah, okay dad and Serena and Venus Williams their dad. Yeah.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: I don't want to I want to buck that trend, Matthew. I want to be able to support him and like be able to thankfully, I have twenty five years worth of soccer knowledge that I can help him, but I also want him to be humble. So I'm also very much like, I know you scored, but this is a team sport.
00:35:40
Speaker 1: How do you make sure it doesn't go to his head?
00:35:42
Speaker 3: Anytime someone else scores. He's the first to congratulate that player, and it's like you do that, and he's very good at it. He's getting better at it. April not so much. April's like, you're the best. Come here, you're the best. And I'm like, the team's meeting at halftime and April's got him over here, like you're the bet worry about them shitty kids. And I'm like, it's a team sport, and it's like I'm like, there's no eyeing team, and it was like, well they buddy, And she's on the sideline. God, I'm trying to get some footage of her, but she keeps catching literally, So I'm trying to keep him humble because I'm like, hey.
00:36:21
Speaker 1: But he's scoring eighteen goals in three games. That's a mission impossible. For what it's worth, I just want to say I was at your house yesterday and I didn't pick up any sense of arrogance from him whatsoever.
00:36:32
Speaker 2: That comes down to the parent.
00:36:33
Speaker 1: I'd say, stop making your children hate me.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: You did oversay you well.
00:36:37
Speaker 1: I did ask him we wanted a store, and he was like, just get the fuck out.
00:36:40
Speaker 2: He just wanted a snack.
00:36:43
Speaker 1: Ash. I've started doing something as a parent that I swore I would never do. Okay, and when I heard parents doing this, I would think to myself, like under my breath, I'll be.
00:36:55
Speaker 2: Like, don't hit your kids.
00:36:58
Speaker 1: Like you so dumb, so dumb, Why would you? Why would you do that? Why would you set yourself up like that? Okay, and now that person why I would once laugh at, has now become the person that I am. And it's you know, it's.
00:37:14
Speaker 3: It's mature that you could recommend.
00:37:16
Speaker 1: It's mature of me to own up and be honest about the mistakes that I've made. Go on, So, Lola likes me a lot more than she used to, which is a great thing.
00:37:25
Speaker 2: She used to hate you, she used to tell me all the time.
00:37:27
Speaker 1: She used to not want sorry, Ash can laugh at my hardships. I would expect more from you.
00:37:36
Speaker 2: I'll give you a pass, you can laughs.
00:37:38
Speaker 1: Like she used to hate me. Lola would not let me brush her teeth. I couldn't get out of the bath, I couldn't pu ajo, I couldn't do anything. So she was just all my money. Used to break my heart. And then lately I've kind of crept in there. Weaseled my way in coppyed Ash in his weazling ways.
00:37:54
Speaker 3: You really tried, really, really really hard to get in there.
00:37:57
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was when I away, I'm a sleb. That was a game change out being away. If anyone wants their child to want them more, just leave, just leave, and not just for like a week, need to go for like thirty days.
00:38:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then not long enough that it causes generational trauma.
00:38:13
Speaker 1: And don't contact them, like, don't message them, and then wow, watch them do a one.
00:38:18
Speaker 2: Eighties Yeah, I remember that didn't last long though. She went back into her old ways.
00:38:22
Speaker 1: She like it like dialed back and now we've reached a happy medium. But when it comes to the bedtime routine, like with Marley, read her a story, put it down for a sleep. End of Obviously she'll ask for a water or you know. She there's a few things that she requests.
00:38:38
Speaker 3: Do you do separate reading or just one book for both?
00:38:42
Speaker 1: One book for both? They each get the chows of book. Laura will do one, I'll do another one end off, and Lola, she goes, just come and lay in my bed for a bit. Just come give me a cuddle, Just give me a little cuddle.
00:38:55
Speaker 3: Do you think it's true love or manipulation?
00:38:59
Speaker 1: She likes it, Okay, she likes it, but she also knows that you're like yes, I would never say no. I can't say no to that. I'm starving for attention. And she gives me a crumb and I'll eat that right. Oh yeah, do you go for me? But now every night I have to go into her bed, I have a side that I have to lay on. I have to put my arm around her waist and I give her a cuddle. Normally works out for about four or five minutes. And I remember parents when they would speak about the fact that the child has to go to sleep with a cuddle before they go to bed. I'd be like, fuck, that's a pain, because I could just read the story clean, break, I'm out of there, boomb drop done.
00:39:35
Speaker 3: You're delaying your time after they go to sleep because you're like stuck in there. Can I leave? Especially? Did she put you on the side furthest from the door? Yeah, cause the most chaos are you're leaving. Also, when you do cuddle around the waist, I feel that my arm's so heavy on their tummy. I try and aim for a hip. You do the same.
00:39:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, forearm on the hip takes some of the weight off, but it's sometimes Laura will do like the second story, and I'm downstairs going, oh thanks, I missed it. And then she's like, Dad, my turn, and now I have to go share because I got you got one minute. She goes two minutes. I get one minute. I have to lay there. I have to wait till she's ready. So she lays the bed first, she tucks herself in. I then hop in. I'm around, stroke her head twice, kiss on the cheek. Then I have to get up, give her a hug outside the blanket, give her another kiss, stroke her hair. And it's a fucking DaVinci Co process. It is a process.
00:40:26
Speaker 3: So you're not there until she falls asleep.
00:40:28
Speaker 1: No, but she has to be pretty like drifting off. Yeah. And then and then.
00:40:32
Speaker 2: It's thought of that chloroform. Give me a caddle.
00:40:36
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, fuck, I'm there and I can't. I could never not give her a cuddle.
00:40:42
Speaker 3: There's gotta be a way out.
00:40:43
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
00:40:45
Speaker 3: Is the routine going to get longer and longer.
00:40:47
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I'm now like twenty minutes in. I gotta light on, light off, turn around, touch my toes, clap, give her a kiss, star jump star, jump, turn around, back down, give her a hug, tuck her in out the door, back in.
00:41:00
Speaker 3: It sounds exhausting, but there's going to be a time where she doesn't want you in there.
00:41:04
Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying it. Say do you what do you don't cut to your kids?
00:41:09
Speaker 3: No, I don't touch them.
00:41:11
Speaker 1: No I should be.
00:41:13
Speaker 2: It's the in bunks as well. So I go Oscar, give Oscar a.
00:41:17
Speaker 3: Kiss, maybe some words of affirmation, like do better, and then I'll go underneath and I'll give Macy and she usually grabs hold of my head for full immersive, fully immersive, Yeah, like squeeze in my cheeks. And then what we'll do is we'll go okay, and we're like, look, if you're going to talk, call quietly.
00:41:36
Speaker 2: Never talk quietly.
00:41:37
Speaker 3: It always escalates into a fucking giggle and someone's fucking doing something dumb. Usually Oscar, he's an entertainer. I don't know where he gets that from. And then I always hear the dad or mom it's like, can you give us one more kiss after shower? Do you have a shower? And it's like okay, And then sometimes they're asleep before that we actually get to them, which is kind of cute too, because you go in to give me kids and ready to sleep.
00:41:59
Speaker 1: Then you go to kiss him with the.
00:42:02
Speaker 3: Like danger danger, But that's usually how it goes down. But then they always just did not in our bed anyway, Like they this is the thing, right, we say, hey, make sure you stay in your bed tonight, But if we miss saying that across the course of the day at all, it's free range.
00:42:17
Speaker 1: They so they're waiting to be like, ah, they didn't say it. The idiot forgot.
00:42:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, like last night, it was like ten o'clock and I was like, maybe I'd just yell it from here. They might consciously it'll absorb stay in your own bed tonight. Macy was in there last night, so she's in't here. But yeah, like I said, there's gonna be a day where she's gonna be like, what are you doing?
00:42:36
Speaker 1: Just be warned. The second you get in there and you give him a cuddle, there's no turning back.
00:42:41
Speaker 3: I can't physically get in there anyway. You're back, are you found? But that's where I was alluding to. I don't have the mobility to get in there, and Oscar's bed wants support my weight.
00:42:56
Speaker 1: Ash we have a little cheeky Audi segment.
00:42:59
Speaker 3: Let's do it. This segment is where parents writing Matt and they tell us things that they thought they knew before having kids, Like that was.
00:43:05
Speaker 2: Some sort of genius.
00:43:06
Speaker 3: You said that, really well, thank you good different Aldi, good different that.
00:43:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one is from Sarah. Sarah, thank you so much for writing.
00:43:16
Speaker 3: Sarah.
00:43:17
Speaker 1: I was absolutely convinced that my kids would never have a tantrum or cry at the shops. I've definitely before having kids, I looked at a parent being like, can you just like control your child.
00:43:29
Speaker 3: There was an episode where I remember I was like, I wasn't shitting on someone. I was pointing out that I saw someone's kid having a meltdown. Kmart remember at the front, and I was like at the time, I was like, ah, my kids aren't going to do that.
00:43:41
Speaker 2: My kids don't do that. But they fucking definitely. It's just the way it is.
00:43:45
Speaker 3: It's like, you know when you're watching a sad movie and something devastating happens and you're like, you feel the emotion, think about like being a two year old, and then they're like, you can't.
00:43:54
Speaker 2: Have that toy, the devastation. It's just gonna happen, right, It's just like me.
00:43:59
Speaker 1: In the Wheel of Death. Yeah, every Monday gymnastics pick up.
00:44:03
Speaker 2: Well, this one's from Lauren.
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Speaker 3: I hated when my mum would say because I said so.
00:44:10
Speaker 2: And I'd never say that to my kids.
00:44:12
Speaker 3: Whoops. Yeah, I always say because I said so, and I don't need an excuse and off and off.
00:44:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever say absolutely not? Is that in your vocab?
00:44:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely in there. It absolutely is.
00:44:24
Speaker 1: That's that's my go to Can I just have Can I just have one more Lollie? Absolutely not. I feel like parents, it's just ingrained in us.
00:44:32
Speaker 3: It's natural if they say can I have one more Loli?
00:44:34
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want the one I gave you back.
00:44:38
Speaker 4: I like that.
00:44:39
Speaker 5: I say a hard no. Hard Away says that back to me. Yeah, I asked him to do so, He's like hard no. Mom.
00:44:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like to Lola, I was like a brush your hair. Absolutely not. One is from Lexi Sexy Alexi.
00:44:55
Speaker 2: Start that again.
00:44:59
Speaker 1: Lexi is a great name. I like that. Yeah, is it sure for something? Alexa? Anyway, I said I'd have no plastic toys. Now I have bins full of Lego magnet tiles everywhere, and every kind of plastic dinosaur that exists.
00:45:15
Speaker 2: I know, I do know.
00:45:16
Speaker 3: Once I did overhear a young couple say.
00:45:20
Speaker 2: I was just dropping in the park whatever. It was a cafe whatever.
00:45:25
Speaker 3: No, they were like, oh, they're like, oh, we're definitely gonna have to have just like all wooden toys. Shut the fuck up.
00:45:32
Speaker 1: They hurt more.
00:45:33
Speaker 3: It's not they hurt more.
00:45:35
Speaker 1: It's like and also like four bucks from kmart.
00:45:38
Speaker 2: Who's whittling a fucking toy like out of wood?
00:45:40
Speaker 1: Now, you know, we do have a wooden rocking horse, like a tiny little one, and that's the only wooden toy that we have. Yeah, everything else is like made in Bangladesh totally.
00:45:51
Speaker 2: We inherited one of those little kitchens.
00:45:54
Speaker 3: Did you guys have one of those little kitchens? Yeah, yeah, but like but we inherited and all the things are wooden. They last ten seconds, like honestly, they're heavy. The kids like, oh, it's such a waste of material. Last one from Malay Melia. I'm going with my Malia.
00:46:10
Speaker 1: It is great to have you on the podcast.
00:46:12
Speaker 3: Elia. I apologize I am no good at pronouncing names. I had a childless friend suggest I do cloth diapers when I had two under two, and I laughed in her face.
00:46:23
Speaker 1: Like, it's parents who can do the cloth diapers. I commend you. That is elite level parenting. Do I want to be competing in that competition. Absolutely not.
00:46:35
Speaker 3: My mum and dad did cloth nappies for my sister, who's older.
00:46:39
Speaker 2: When they got to me, they gave.
00:46:40
Speaker 3: Up, like this shit stinks.
00:46:43
Speaker 2: No, but my level of I'm really this is going to be really bad.
00:46:48
Speaker 3: I'm going to throw my sister under the bus here pretty badly. She won't hear it.
00:46:52
Speaker 2: She doesn't care about anything.
00:46:54
Speaker 1: I have to shout out to Beth.
00:46:55
Speaker 3: Betty, shout out to Betty. When I had Oscar, okay, my my sister, and I vividly said that she didn't have a kid yet she has one who's the same age as Macy. When I just had Oscar, she tried to convince me to use cloth nappies because that's what she wanted to use for her kids because of the environment. I get it.
00:47:12
Speaker 2: That's fine. Everyone has their agendas. I get it. And I laughed.
00:47:17
Speaker 3: I laughed and laughed and I'm still laughing, and now the listeners will laughing.
00:47:21
Speaker 1: When you go to bed and April's like, what are you chuckling about over there?
00:47:27
Speaker 3: And then I remember when she had when had her kid, and I was like, how's those cloth nappies going? Do you want to I bought you a couple of clothes, no word, nothing.
00:47:35
Speaker 1: What do you do with the poos? You put that in the bin?
00:47:38
Speaker 3: You go the toilet, You put the if you can you can tip it out, I guess.
00:47:44
Speaker 4: And what you wash it in the basin in the lawn.
00:47:47
Speaker 1: Where do you put the poo poo? You put in the toilet and you flush.
00:47:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, a solid bit of pooh Like, if it's.
00:47:51
Speaker 4: A solid it's a solid poo, you'd throw toilet.
00:47:54
Speaker 3: If it's a milky like your poo's going to be after that big glass of milk, guilty, It'll be just just a just you get your thumbs in there like that. Not for me. I'm sorry.
00:48:03
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry.
00:48:04
Speaker 3: I'm sorry the planet.
00:48:05
Speaker 8: But I put the nappy in the in the bin.
00:48:16
Speaker 1: I'm like, sorry, mother nature, I'm really sorry.
00:48:19
Speaker 2: This is your ship to deal with now. Literally, I'm not rewatching.
00:48:23
Speaker 1: I just we do care about the environment.
00:48:26
Speaker 3: Like do they still make them?
00:48:27
Speaker 2: I'm just people just using details.
00:48:29
Speaker 1: I think they stopped making them. Hey, look, do I wish I was a little bit smarter with my nappy?
00:48:33
Speaker 3: Is sure?
00:48:34
Speaker 2: Sure that you could be a lot smarter?
00:48:36
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00:48:47
Speaker 1: Aldi good different, Matt.
00:48:49
Speaker 2: Usually, we have our dota dilemmas here, which.
00:48:51
Speaker 3: We do love, do we and we appreciate it. We do love it, we do have it both moving.
00:48:56
Speaker 1: On, they moved, we have rejigged. We've removed them from this episode. There now in the Monday episode which is next week.
00:49:03
Speaker 2: Yes, and look out for that episode.
00:49:05
Speaker 3: It is our housekeeping episode where we talk about everything that you've sent in, much like dots of dilemmas and other things we waffle us.
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Speaker 5: Nah.
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