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All right, Jeremy, what do you have today?
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Strange drownings and
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I'm doubling down on Trump Kennedy
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What do you have? I have Oppenheimer. Is it the bomb or is it a dud?
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Spoiler alert, it's a dud and
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Now they're putting food in chains Jeremy. Let's get to the truth
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Okay people, let's begin
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Five, four, three, two, one, zero
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All you need is a liftoff
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We have a liftoff
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Get up everybody
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Are you ready to be baited with the truth?
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Good, because you're listening to the Truthbait Podcast
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I'm documentary filmmaker and podcaster Andrew Marcus
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And with me always as we deconstruct America's propaganda war
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And put some truth back into the narrative
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Is the only doctor of cultural therapy you should be booking an appointment with
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls
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Give it up for the one and only rebel pundit
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Jeremy Siegel
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Mr. Siegel, Dr. Siegel
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I think I'm better at cultural narrow-py than therapy
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I got a few texts after that last one
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People thought that was funny
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Cultural narrow-py, we are your cultural narrow-py
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Book an appointment on our nouch
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I could use a doctor, I'm a little sick, I'm a little under the weather
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I don't know if you could hear it
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Do I have a nasally voice today?
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You know what, you haven't spoken enough for me to really hear
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So far you sound good, but
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Yeah, if you're not feeling well, that makes
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You today's hero to the truth
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Very impressive, Jeremy, very impressive
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Thank you for showing up and giving of your time
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Are you at 16 children yet?
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How many are you at now?
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It's been a few minutes
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It's still six
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And you're not feeling well
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It is a gift to have you here in all sincerity
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We had 32 ducklings hatched this week
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So 32 ducklings, how many ducks are responsible for 32 ducklings?
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Only four
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Wow
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They're like rabbits, yeah
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They're kind of like rabbits
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Yeah, I looked outside
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There were, well we had like 20-something hatch
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And then all of a sudden the other day my kids were screaming
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They're like, Dad, there's more ducks, there's more ducks
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I'm like, okay
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And they're like, no, look, there's more ducks
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And I go out and sure enough there are 12 more
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Following their mom around
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She must have been hiding a nest in the woods somewhere
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Because I wasn't aware of it
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Hiding them from you, very private
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Have they chosen their genders?
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They're, I don't know, I think it's already been preordained
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Okay
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They may want to switch because the males are going to end up in the freezer
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Wait
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So how many seasons can you get out of the females?
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I don't know, this is the first time they've bred
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I've had them for a few years
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They're actually not ducks, they're called Muscovies
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They're from South America
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They look exactly like ducks
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Oh, you had to get some ducks from south of the border
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Because you couldn't find any American ducks that would do the job for you
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They walk like ducks, they look like ducks
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But evidently they are not technically ducks, they are Muscovies
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And they, we have them for fly control
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How well do they patty? I mean isn't that really the important question?
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We have them for flies and they eat flies
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And in one week all the flies on our land will be gone
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Because the little ducklings, well, Muscovielings
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Go around and eat all the ducks
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And it's wonderful, natural pest control
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And in a few months we will go around and eat the Muscovies
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Why don't you just cut the Muscovie out of the middleman position
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And just eat the bugs, Jeremy
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Yeah, now we're getting somewhere, we'll be in full compliance
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Okay, well, here wait
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There you go
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Dinner
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Yeah
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How is duck compared to chicken?
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I really have never, I have not had many encounters with duck on my plate
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Really? Yeah
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Oh, it's delicious, I love duck, it's great
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How is it compared to chicken? You've never had duck?
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Does it taste anything like it? You know what, I think I've had duck once
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And it tasted very, I don't know, a little more gamey than I'm used to I guess
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And it may have just been that experience
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Because I, yeah, it's more like a red meat
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So, you know, preparation wise, oftentimes you would get like a duck breast
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That's more like cooked like a medium
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Not so much like, you know, you overcook chicken, you know, to make sure it's okay
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But there's, it's challenging because you got, they have a much thicker layer of fat
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Under the skin and you have to, you know, you have to really render that fat down
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So you're not just gnawing on duck fat
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But, and then there's other ways you can cook it like the Asians like to
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Put it, I think, on a rotisserie all day and it gets nice and crispy
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Do you ever have crispy duck?
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Yeah, I just want to give you some
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That is good
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That's our China report music but I thought it would be appropriate now
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I like that
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Yeah, I don't know, duck's great
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And then, and these ducks, I don't have to do anything
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I don't even have to feed them
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They just hatch them, the moms raise them
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It's like a wild bird
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But they live in the yard and they don't leave
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They have wings, they can fly, don't clip their wings
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Sometimes they fly over to my neighbor's house and eat his weeds
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They don't eat our weeds for some reason
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You get them to eat the bush that blocks your internet
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That's a good idea
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I might just tie a goat up over there
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Tie it to the tree, tie it to the bush
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I just have trouble eating things that were presented to me as animated characters for me to love as a child
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Daffy duck, Bugs Bunny
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I have trouble eating rabbits
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Minnesota Fats, I don't like frogs legs
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Although I do make an exception for frog horn leg horn
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Duck is delicious, I'm looking forward to it
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These ducks finish out around 12 to 15 pounds each
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Not ducks, muscovies
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They look like ducks
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That's big
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Are you going to, when you say finish them off
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Jeremy, are you going to be doing the deed on the muscovies?
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I think we're going to have to
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I don't know if there's actually a processor around that does ducks
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Wait, the chicken processor doesn't just do most birds that you would give them?
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They do, yeah, they do turkeys, they do guinea hens, they do pheasants, but they don't do ducks
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Is there anything special about the duck?
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I should ask if they'll do muscovies, I don't know
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Right, it's not a duck
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They're going to say it looks like a duck to me, it's not a duck
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Do you want me to do it for you?
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I want you to come over and help, and I'll let you take one home
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I actually have a recording of me already doing that
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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That's, I brought Joel with me
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Okay, what do you have?
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It's been, we've now gone like almost 10 minutes with this and I forgot what you have.
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What do you have?
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Oh, I was converting this in.
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Oh my gosh.
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I can't believe you're bringing Kennedy back.
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You're really going back into the buzzsaw.
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I was converting this into a homesteading podcast.
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I'm going back into Kennedy because I meant to use this clip last time when you ambushed
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me with all of this old Kennedy archives you went and dug up to try to smear him.
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Don't you hate that?
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No, you don't hate when that happens.
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You want to go first or you want me to go first with Kennedy?
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I actually was sort of prepared.
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I was actually sort of prepared, but then I got this clip I wanted to play, but then it
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got to be late in the episode and I thought, well, I'll save it.
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I'll bring it back.
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Okay, well here, let's lead off with it then.
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What do you have from your future president, your hopeful vice president, RFK?
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Yeah, no, that's it.
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I have been proclaiming that Trump-Kennedy is the only path forward for either of the
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two men.
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You love Kennedy.
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And I like Kennedy a lot.
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I don't know if I love him.
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I don't know if I could say I love him.
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I love my kids.
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I love God.
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I don't think I love Kennedy, but I like him a lot.
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On that scale, you didn't love Trump.
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At this point, I think I like him as much as I like Trump.
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Oh, I see.
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Okay, well, that's what I meant in terms of your intensity for him is paralleled.
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No, my like for Trump is actually like, it's just a like.
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It's not a love.
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No, I get it.
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I hear you.
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I'm not one of these people that thinks Trump is the Messiah.
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I'm talking about the parody.
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I'm talking about the parody.
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That's all.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, I think to me, I'll take either one.
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I think we'll be in just as good of shape if either man were to become president.
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If Trump were to win again, or if Kennedy were to win for the first time, I think it's
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equally as good for the country.
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I was with you.
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I was on board.
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You know, I'm the one who brought Kennedy to the podcast when he launched his campaign.
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I was enthusiastic.
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You were.
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You were.
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And then you did some homework and found a bunch of archaic old antique clips that were
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recorded on cassette or 8-track.
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You mean words that came out of his mouth.
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Yes, you're right.
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And then you did all this highly selective editing and took everything out of context
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to make it sound like he's a fascist.
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What have you got to show me that I am...
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There is nothing to fear.
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Nothing.
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What have you got?
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I have nothing to prove you wrong.
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I have nothing to say that some of your concerns are not valid.
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What I have is going back to my point from the beginning, which was, if you recall, we
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had an episode called A New Hope.
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Yes.
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And that was when we first talked about Kennedy quite a bit.
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And I think one of the reasons I came up with that title for the episode was sort of that
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what I thought I was foreseeing was that with all of the continual attack on Trump, the
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continual attempts to delegitimize him or indict him or everything that they're throwing
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at him, steal elections and what have you, cheating and staging coups.
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And then with Kennedy, the media comes out, attacks him the same way right out of the
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gate that they attacked Trump.
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And then he's not a real Democrat, just like Trump wasn't a real Republican and all kinds
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of the same smears.
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They got members of his family to speak against him, just like they got members of Trump's
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family to speak against him.
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And in listening to him speak, I was hearing this guy that I thought was speaking like
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a normal human being and not reading a script, doesn't sound like an AI robot like Mike Pence
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and all the other politicians.
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And then I thought, this is actually, there's an opportunity here.
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The hope here in my view is that there could be some sort of reconciliation in the land
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between people of the left, people of the right who are not Marxist, who are not white
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supremacist, who are basically regular Americans having many different views on many different
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things, but sharing many views of many things and finding common ground in those things.
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And you would have a Trump Kennedy ticket because it does seem like Trump's going to
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be in, he could be in trouble again, having a similar sort of thing happen where if, I
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think if there were a legitimate election, he would win, but I don't have any faith that
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we would have a legitimate election.
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And so I think it's a long shot that he will, though I do think he's going to be the nominee
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and Kennedy, you know, the Democrat party is rigged in such a way that whoever they,
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the machine wants to be the nominee will be the nominee no matter how popular any other
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candidate that comes up will be.
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And I suspect that Kennedy is going to have quite a bit of popularity among people who
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are sick of Marxists taking the country where they're taking it inside the Democrat party.
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And it represents an opportunity for them to partner together and basically reunify people.
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And that this was the first time, this was a few days ago, that somebody actually asked
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Trump because there were other people that were saying this Trump Kennedy idea that even
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Roger Stone had said it early on, I think even Steve Bannon had said it early on.
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So this guy on Newsmax, I always forget his name, Greg something, he asked Trump about
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it and that one of the things that's been happening and you've seen it is Trump and
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Kennedy are not attacking each other at all.
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There has been some respectful criticism of Kennedy giving, you know, toward Trump and
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Trump has basically been saying really nice things about Kennedy.
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He's got great ideas.
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So I have nothing to disprove any of your concerns.
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What I have is to say we are still going to see a Trump Kennedy ticket.
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If he runs though as a third party candidate, what do you think that does in this next election?
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I don't know, but he's got great support in the party.
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He's got in the Democrat party, he's got 20 percent.
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I saw a poll today, 23 percent of the vote.
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That's a lot of vote.
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And so I don't know, it's would he run as an independent to get a lot of votes, I can
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tell you.
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Yeah, that's, you know, a lot of people like you and him as a combination too.
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I don't think that can happen.
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But have you ever thought about that?
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I just said Trump Kennedy looks good on a bumper sticker.
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I read the same things that you do.
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There are a lot of people suggesting it.
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There's no question about that.
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No, I've known him over the years.
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He's a smart guy and well intentioned.
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I really believe he's very well intentioned.
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So although that's a lot nicer than anything he said about any Republicans running.
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It is.
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Although hiring has not been Trump's strong suit.
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It's one of my criticisms of him.
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Well, that's what I'm still worried about.
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That's what I'm still worried about is Trump might know right now or even think it's a
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maybe it's an idea to run with.
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But at the end of the day, he's going to get convinced to pick the Santas and then they'll
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just shoot him.
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Wow.
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And is that do you have anything else for Kennedy?
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That was it.
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I just wanted to throw that in there after you maybe you want to send the last episode
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over to Trump to make sure he doesn't pick Kennedy the fascist.
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The new no Kennedy the new hope, which I thought you called it the new hope because it was
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like Kennedy is your Luke Skywalker.
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It just isn't fair.
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No I wasn't but it was a broader new hope.
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It was my hope is not in any man but I did have a yes.
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You're not in some reunification.
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You don't do hope.
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Do you?
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Well, you know, I hope in God but no, I just thought I thought that was worth bringing
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because it's the first time it actually was addressed by Trump.
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I thought it was it's interesting to hear how he responded to that question.
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And it does indicate to me, there is a possibility that that's what we're going to see.
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And I do think it's a possibility that it's been actually planned this way.
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Well, yeah, because you did say you thought it was an opportunity.
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And I do I partially agree with you because I think it's an op.
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You think it's an opportunity.
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I just believe I agree with you just on that first part.
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This will be a very good segue.
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You know, you've heard of Villanova University.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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They held a keynote, I'm sorry, they held an international sustainability conference
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and R.F.K.
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Jr. was the keynote speaker.
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And here once again, I have applied the formula, the post-production formula to R.F.K.
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Jr.
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I sped him up to 120 percent and it and it almost cures his vocal.
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What do you call it?
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His vocal malformity, his vocal.
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In the last we were executive producer, and I were listening to the last episode.
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And when you were talking about how you had figured out this secret formula before you
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did it, she said, what does he do speed it up?
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Okay, I'm more suspicious of your wife than ever before because it's crazy.
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He attended Johns Hopkins.
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She's like, yeah, we do that all the time in our secret club of people.
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Well, here he is speaking at Villanova University at the International Sustainability Conference.
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The National Academy of Sciences did a study, an inventory of all the peer review publications
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about global warming that had been published between 1996 and 2006 around the world.
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And every one of them, without any exception, agreed on the fundamentals that global warming
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exists, human beings are causing it, it's already upon us, its impacts are going to
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be catastrophic.
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There were many disagreements about the nuances, but all agreed to those four presets.
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At the same time, 60% of American news articles and electronic news reports about global warming
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raised doubts about the science.
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So there was this huge gap between public perception of real science.
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So he is a global warming scientist.
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The consensus all agrees the consensus is in.
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He might as well be Al Gore with that comment.
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Just thought I would highlight it.
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Science is hard work.
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Oh yeah, here's why there's this disconnect between the consensus of science and the morons
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out there that don't get it.
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Science is hard work.
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You go, you know, sit in the university and you pump out these tones of maybe 500 pages
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and very few journalists take the time to read them.
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But the guys in the Heritage Foundation, they crank out these slick PR pronouncements on
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a single page of paper that can fit in a briefcase and be read.
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It's designed to be read in the seven minute cab ride between Capitol Hill and Washington
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National Airport.
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And the journalist says, well, should I read this big thick thing, this little thing that
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seems like easy read?
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And that's why Americans aren't sure about global warming.
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That's why Americans aren't sure about global warming.
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And I think he was about to say, that's why America is so stupid.
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Listen.
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Like easy read.
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And that's why Americans aren't sure about global warming.
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He was going to say something.
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Maybe not what I'm suspecting, but he was going to say something and he stopped himself.
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Well Americans are stupid.
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Okay.
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You know, it's okay for you to blow up our corporate sponsors.
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You may not blow up citizen sponsors.
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No, no, our sponsors, our citizen sponsors are very smart.
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Okay, good.
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But they're a small percentage of Americans.
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Sweden in 1996 decided to decarbonize its society.
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Sweden in 1996 decided to decarbonize its society.
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Sweden in 1996 decided to decarbonize its society.
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And it's an idea to shut down its nuclear power plants.
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It closed the two biggest nuclear plants in the country.
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It's a $150 a ton tax on carbon.
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And Sweden today is the six richest country by GDP in the world.
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And you have the same thing happen.
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Thousands of entrepreneurs rushing into that space to create new forms of energy from wind,
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from title, from solar, from geothermal, from putrid garbage, from solar waste.
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I was in Sweden last week.
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He was in Sweden last week working with the putrid garbage.
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A headline from Reuters June 20th, all the way back June 20th, 2023.
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Swedish parliament passes new energy target, easing way for new nuclear power.
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Giving the right wing government the green light to push forward with plans to build
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new nuclear plants in a country that voted 40 years ago to phase out atomic power.
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Changing the target to 100% fossil free electricity from 100% renewable.
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Fantastic.
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Shall I go on?
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Let's do.
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Yes.
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It's all part of the theology that's keeping this idea alive that we can just increase
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our population.
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We don't have to care what will happen because our kids will have the engineering to figure
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out a way of the mess that we've created for them.
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Oh, wait, wait, wait.
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Let's just listen to that again.
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It's all part of the theology.
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The theology.
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Okay.
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It's all part of the theology that's keeping it.
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That's kind of keeping this idea alive that we can just increase our population.
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So a theology that says we can just keep increasing our population.
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Huh.
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I wonder what you could be talking about.
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Jeremy, which theology do you think he means?
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Reproducing, having kids, having families.
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Wait, no, we're talking theology, Jeremy.
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What theology?
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What theology?
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Ah, are there any religious theologies that inform people about procreating, being fruitful,
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and multiplying?
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Certainly, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, too.
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Huh.
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We don't have to care what will happen because our kids will have the engineering to figure
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out a way of the mess that we've created.
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Jeremy, this dude is for population control.
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And you are the problem.
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You're the problem.
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Get your yard sign ready.
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I had a breakfast meeting about three weeks ago with this really extraordinary group of
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people, with Harry Breed, who runs the Senate, Nancy Pelosi, who runs Congress, Jeff Bader,
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who's the chair of the environment in the Senate, Brian Dorman, who's the chair of Appropriations,
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Stephen Shue, the secretary of energy, Lisa Jackson from EPA, Ken Salazar from Interior,
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Carl Browner, who's the energy environment's art, as well as T. Blum Pickens, President
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Clinton, Vice President Gore, and the leaders of about 10 Fortune 20 companies, including
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Lisa Jackson, Walmart, the heads of the biggest utilities in our country, the biggest utility
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groups, trade associations in our country, they had a first.
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And afterwards we had about a two and a half hour breakfast talking about how we redesigned
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the electric grid in this country to accommodate all these new forms of power.
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And afterwards we went out and we did a panel, we sat on a panel and talked to a group of
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about 600 people to explain the Brexit plan to the American public.
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And they had 600 opinion leaders as well as hundreds of members of the press in that audience.
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And afterwards there was a guy in the audience, Carl Pope, who's the roof, running Sierra
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Club for 20 years at least.
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And he came up to me and said, you know, the last time that I heard people talk like that
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was at the free speech zone at the Republican convention just before the police arrested
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us.
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And I...
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That's a pretty interesting comment.
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So now he sounds like a leftist protester outside of... in the free speech zone outside
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of a convention.
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Now, and this is true, but this is stuff, you know, people were... words I've always
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talked about, kind of hippies with tight...
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I can smell them chewing.
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And today it's the top, you know, people in our country who have embraced and adopted
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this.
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And this is a plan that the Obama administration has adopted for our country.
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They're funding it with the Zimnyas back, the energy bill, a lot of which is being used
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to fund the
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Zimnyas back.
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It's designed to do exactly this, which is harness these forms of energy.
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Now, here are the impediments that the Obama administration faced, number one, the huge
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subsidies to the carbon cronies, particularly the carbon cronies.
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have to deal with those subsidies,
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either through a carbon tax or through a cap and trade system.
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Jeremy, this guy, he is,
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he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Yeah, but you took that whole clip and edited it and took it out of context.
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Totally out of context.
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Totally out of context.
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Jeremy, this guy's for population control.
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He's for, I didn't, that's the end of the clippings I took.
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He goes on, it's the same speech that he gave to, where did I, it was University of Chicago.
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No, it was Northwestern.
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Yeah, that was really similar.
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It's the same speech.
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But that one was eight years ago, this one was 15 years ago.
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So you've got years of the same narrative coming out of this guy.
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He believes in population control.
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He believes in the consensus science of manmade global warming.
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He is in the back door meeting, the back, the closed door back room meetings with every,
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the entire elitist left pushing for the Obama energy policy.
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Jeremy, get your yard sign ready.
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I am.
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This guy is not what he is presenting himself to be.
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And what I didn't clip from here again, because it's from the same as the previous speech,
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and we already covered it, was that he wants, he argues against an incremental approach
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to getting rid of the carbon cronies.
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He is, he wants a radical ending of the carbon economy, radical.
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He equates the carbon economy to slavery.
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This guy's radical, a radical leftist.
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He might be Obama's guy.
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You might be cheering for Obama's guy.
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No, I don't think so.
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Yeah.
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Okay, but you got a hill to climb, buddy.
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You got a hill to climb.
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I really want to know what our citizen producers think.
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Write us at truth at truthbait.com.
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Truth at truthbait.com.
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I think all of these things are little issues.
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What?
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Blaming the religious for overpopulating the planet.
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Literally, that's a target on your back.
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Play this at church, Jeremy.
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No, look, these are, yeah, no, these are good, these are good finds.
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These are good finds.
491
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Keeping this idea alive that we can just increase our population.
492
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The theology that we could just keep increasing our population.
493
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,320
These are, I wonder what he's actually referring to there.
494
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,120
The link is on our Twitter feed.
495
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600
I posted it 13 hours ago.
496
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:40,880
Because certainly the United States, and certainly the United States has not really had a theology
497
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,400
of ever growing population.
498
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:52,960
But many countries in the third world where there's much greater poverty has.
499
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:59,440
So I don't know exactly what he's talking about there, but I just, I would disagree with it.
500
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Yes.
501
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,000
And I would disagree with probably almost most of what he has said there.
502
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,400
I think those are good finds.
503
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:13,600
I would like to hear next time Jim Hoff interviews him, maybe you should try to equip
504
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Jim Hoff with some of those clips and see if he can get him to respond to some of those statements.
505
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,360
No, I want to go get him.
506
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,920
Well, you could do it.
507
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,520
Let's have the Truthbait podcast.
508
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,880
Go find out.
509
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,600
If he's going to come on the Truthbait podcast.
510
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,280
We're going to address something here for a second.
511
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Back this up, you basically have accused me now of presenting him out of context.
512
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,120
And how dare you.
513
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,000
I was joking.
514
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,520
Jeremy, I encourage you.
515
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,720
I was triggering you.
516
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,880
I was triggering you.
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00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:54,080
I encourage you to go and we'll put this in the show notes.
518
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,680
It's up on the, like I said, it's up on the Twitter feed right now.
519
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:06,560
And you'll see that it, yeah, I mean, I could, you know, if I, if I, I could give you more
520
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,760
context by playing, you know, it was an hour long.
521
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,120
It was one of these things I sat through.
522
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,200
So you don't have to, but now you should.
523
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Now you have to.
524
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,400
No, you didn't, you didn't even make one cut.
525
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,520
I was totally joking.
526
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:18,720
No, I did.
527
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,240
I was totally triggering.
528
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,160
I just said those are little issues and your head blew off the top of your neck.
529
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,560
Wow.
530
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Yeah.
531
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No.
532
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160
So I, I, this is, it's amazing.
533
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:41,120
We are 44 episodes into this podcast and we have now encountered what I would say is truly
534
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,080
our first actual divergent opinion.
535
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,520
We are diverging completely on this.
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I am very suspicious of Mr. Kennedy.
537
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,800
I've heard these are disturbing things that violate many of my absolute core beliefs.
538
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Yeah, no, those give me cause for concern.
539
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,360
There's no question.
540
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:15,440
I think that what I have going on in my mind is I'm still so disenfranchised with everything
541
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,920
and in the whole of politics and the way that things are.
542
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:30,160
And then there is, there are so many issues that I agree with Kennedy on still.
543
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:36,560
Well, you agree with what he's saying, but I don't know that he believes what he's saying.
544
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Well, I don't think he's lying about the vaccine stuff.
545
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Do you?
546
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I don't know.
547
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,400
I do not know what his motives are.
548
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These, the things that I have found leave me not knowing what his motives are.
549
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,480
Well, that's fair.
550
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,840
I mean, I think that's fair.
551
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,360
And I think you've done a great job finding some of this old stuff.
552
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,200
I think it's all valid and clearly, certainly important.
553
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:11,040
I, you know, what, if he's lying, you know, yeah, that's, I mean, that's a problem.
554
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:20,000
Like if he's just a fraud on, you know, vaccine safety and actually does think people
555
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,400
should be forced to take vaccines.
556
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:29,280
I mean, that would be a, I mean, he would just be like the, the, I probably, I guess,
557
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,400
the biggest liar there is of anybody.
558
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Cause even like, even, you know, the Fauci's and the Obama's and everybody, I mean, they,
559
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they say you should be, they agree with, I mean, they're open about saying you should be forced
560
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,640
to take them. So I don't know what, is he just playing that role to become popular?
561
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,080
He just totally lying about that?
562
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He could be.
563
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,400
Does he actually, is he actually an ally of Fauci?
564
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,480
No, he doesn't have, I don't think that, I don't think that the
565
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:10,640
elite progressive left is always in lockstep in terms of their beliefs.
566
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,560
I think there's a struggle that goes on, occurrence of struggle that go on,
567
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,640
currents of thought, different schools of thought that are always vying for control
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00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:25,200
of the elite hard left. I think he just represents potentially a different current.
569
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:27,360
I think it's.
570
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:36,800
That, or he is literally just, he's the, like the, he's the false flag or not false flag,
571
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,640
it's the wrong term, but he's the, he's the Bernie Sanders 2.0.
572
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:48,480
I mean, if you're, here's how I'm going to believe you're right,
573
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,520
is he becomes the Democrat nominee.
574
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,240
Well, Bernie never became the Democrat nominee. He was just,
575
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:04,400
they basically used him to channel all the energy and misdirect.
576
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,080
He was controlled opposition within the party.
577
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,040
Yeah. But if he's, if he's, if he's so radical, as you say.
578
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,240
As he says, the things he's saying are very radical.
579
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,600
No, right, right. But let's, let's say he's, he's, he's that radical.
580
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:37,360
Then why would they, why would they not let him jump out and be the nominee?
581
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,960
Because he makes them look like they're not the radicals.
582
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,520
He makes them look moderate in their eyes.
583
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,840
I don't know. Look, we're not going to work this out right now. It's going to take time.
584
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:04,480
No, no, but see, I'm still in the, I'm still in the mind frame, even after hearing those clips.
585
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,920
I mean, it was the, the, it was the former head of Greenpeace who was a radical environmental
586
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:18,400
activist who, who totally defected. So you're saying he may have had a change of heart
587
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in the intervening years.
588
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:28,160
I, I, I just wonder because of all of the things that he says in which I agree with
589
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,240
and things that seem to make sense and have common sense to them. And when he speaks the
590
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:39,920
way he speaks, he's not reading a script. He's just, he's not a scripted politician.
591
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:50,560
So it's, it's, and I've heard him say things like accusing the, you know, climate change movement,
592
00:38:53,280 --> 00:39:01,920
declaring the threat it poses to usher in Marxist authoritarianism. Why make comments like that?
593
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Because comments like that would undermine comments here that he's making. Now, certainly
594
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:16,000
you're correct. It could just be he's saying those things to gain popularity or something.
595
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,640
It would be one thing if he was saying-
596
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,120
And take away votes from Trump. It's possible.
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If he, if he were saying, I hear you, cause I, I was attracted to that too when he first said that.
598
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:33,760
Talking about the, the, the, how radical it has become. Okay. But he doesn't talk about it in the
599
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:41,040
context of, and I helped create this environment. It would be one thing if he was doing a mea culpa
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00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:47,120
while he was doing it, if he was explaining, yes, I, I even, I was part of this and I now I've seen
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00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,120
the light, but he doesn't do it that way.
602
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,000
So you want a repentance. You want him to repent.
603
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,280
Well, I think that would be honest right now. He's lying by omission. I worry.
604
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:03,440
Right. Yeah. No, right. I, I, yeah. I, I think that's fair. I think that's fair.
605
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,880
Like I said, I think it would be interesting if he got pressed on some of these things,
606
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,520
these clips you've unearthed are certainly better than anything that, you know, that
607
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,320
Reason magazine had hit him with, you know, that were just clips that were just, you know,
608
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:27,040
that were just clips floating around the internet. I mean, these are the, it certainly would be great
609
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:32,960
to ask him about these things. Now 15 years is a lot of time. Eight years is less time.
610
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:42,080
It's certainly consistent over time of having those views. Okay. Again, I'm still mentally in a place
611
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:50,720
where if he has environmental views that I disagree with, he still has all these other views that I do
612
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:58,880
agree with. Yeah, but his environmental views of rapid decarbonization will destroy us.
613
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:11,680
So here's what I'm going to ask you. This is your option. Your option is somebody
614
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:22,080
in the Republican field will become president. Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis,
615
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Bivak, Vivek, Ramaswamy, Tim Scott, any of those, Mike Pence will become president or
616
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Joe Biden will become president, state president or Michelle Obama, which isn't going to happen.
617
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:53,360
That's why Roger Stone came out and said it or Gavin Newsom, you know, something like that. Okay.
618
00:41:53,360 --> 00:42:02,720
Or Trump, president, Kennedy, vice president. Of all those options, which are you taking? You have
619
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:10,240
to pick one. See, at this point, if Trump were to put Kennedy as vice president, I would be convinced
620
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:18,720
then that Trump is also an ob at that point. Meant to just corral all of us over on our side here.
621
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:25,520
Look, I don't know. Here's what I could tell you. We don't have a choice, Jeremy. The election is
622
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:32,480
rigged. So in my mind, I'm committed to voting for Trump because that's going to expose the fraud.
623
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,760
It's going to make them cheat harder. I have gone back and forth with the question in my mind,
624
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,440
the torturing in my mind, is it worthwhile voting anymore now that we know that the elections are
625
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,560
stolen and the answer I've arrived at is no. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm going to be
626
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:55,680
dead. Absolutely. You should vote because it forces them to cheat harder and more flagrantly. And it
627
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,640
just makes it more obvious. And that's really all we have left. So go vote. This is why I think,
628
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,240
let's see, this is why I think nobody should vote. I think nobody should. That's not going to happen
629
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:13,760
though. And then when nobody shows up, how do they fake the results? Right? Like the big,
630
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,920
be like the big trick, you know, like nobody shows up to vote. That's like all of a sudden in the
631
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,000
middle of the night, they're going to be like, there were eight, there were still 81 million votes for
632
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:33,760
Biden, but nobody else voted. The big election that seems to be going on right now is in politics,
633
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:41,360
though. It's the movies. Barbenheimer. Have you heard that term? No. Yeah. So now it's like a big
634
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:48,160
race between who's going to do better, Barbie or Oppenheimer. Which would you go see? Which would
635
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,640
you vote with your dollars? I'm not going to see either. That is exactly how you would vote
636
00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:01,840
politically. You just advocated for nobody going. I'm going to take the opposite opinion. I think
637
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:09,680
everybody should go see every movie in the theaters. I have not seen Barbie yet, although
638
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:17,520
for this show I'm going to. I know it's torturous. I actually stepped foot into a screening of Barbie
639
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:25,760
just to see how packed it was and what was the tone. And it was packed and people seemed to be
640
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:34,240
enjoying it. I didn't stay long. I was on my way back to Oppenheimer. But you question my comment,
641
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:42,160
Americans are stupid. Well, Americans are being fooled. That's for sure. Yeah. Oppenheimer.
642
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Here, let me play. I'll play the trailer. I snipped a piece of the trailer. The trailer
643
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,000
is three minutes long. I'm not playing a three minute trailer. We're in a race against the Nazis.
644
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,760
And I know what it means. If the Nazis have a bomb.
645
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:10,720
That's it. That's all I'm playing. We all, I think, know Oppenheimer was the theoretical physicist
646
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:19,200
who was the director of the Manhattan Project and delivered us the bomb. You know who Oppenheimer is,
647
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:27,120
I think, right? Only because of this movie. Right. Well, that's actually, you know, you laugh,
648
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:32,640
but that's for a lot of people, that is all they're going to know. Especially a lot of young people
649
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,480
because they're not being taught in school. Right. Well, we weren't taught in school who he was.
650
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:47,120
You weren't? Well, we learned who he was. Well, you're a lot older than me.
651
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,960
That's true. I am actually. I forget that sometimes.
652
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:58,240
You were in government indoctrination centers. You are mature for your age and I'm immature
653
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:07,920
for my age. So that's why we can do this. That's right. So there's a young person close to me that
654
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:21,200
I know who went to see it and wrote to me that he loved it. Loved Oppenheimer. So, so, so, so good.
655
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:28,560
And I asked, well, what did you like about it? And he said, well, the interwoven storylines,
656
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:34,160
the acting, the practical effects and the sound design. Now I thought about it and I thought,
657
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:40,800
yeah, actually, I thought that there that all was very good in this production. There was the
658
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:47,600
interwoven storyline was very engaging. It was interesting. There was a lot of good acting going
659
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:57,760
on. The effects were really well done. The sound design was unbelievable. The sound was enveloping,
660
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:07,120
disconcerting. It was very well done, professionally and skilled. Well done,
661
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:16,080
which is part of the trap. That's how they get you. You know, you get sucked in to the mechanics of
662
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:22,400
it and you are taken on a ride and you almost don't realize what you're seeing.
663
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:33,920
And I don't know, I felt very differently in large part about the picture. It's a love letter
664
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:43,760
to American communism, first of all. That's the headline. And it's done in a package where
665
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:52,640
you're expected to believe that Oppenheimer himself was never a communist. So on one hand,
666
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:58,880
they push this narrative that American communism is the real victim in the entire situation.
667
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:07,920
They're the oppressed and simultaneously, but Oppenheimer was never a communist.
668
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:15,040
And it's a conspiracy theory to think that he was a communist, even though he was married to
669
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:23,600
a former communist. He was quoted in his lifetime as saying that he had belonged to every communist
670
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,560
front group on the West Coast. It was later in his life he said that. So,
671
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:37,840
to me, the supremely frustrating part of this film is the villains of the film
672
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:45,040
are anti-communists in America. That's the villain of the story of Oppenheimer.
673
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:52,800
You know, he's a communist, he's a communist, he's a communist, he's a communist.
674
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:59,280
Anti-communists in America. That's the villain of the story of Oppenheimer. You think you're
675
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:06,480
being given a story about the creation of the atom bomb in the United States, but you're not.
676
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:14,800
You're actually being fed a story, a pro-communist story and an anti-American story.
677
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:22,240
And that's without even getting into the retreading of the moral question of whether or not you
678
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:27,920
should have dropped the bomb. That's the common narrative people tend to go over. And they
679
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:33,200
certainly have some of that, but that's all window dressing because the real narrative here
680
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:57,200
is American anti-communist oppressors. Mechanically though, it was very good.
681
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:08,000
Except I have a problem with, so the director is Christopher Nolan and he did Tenet. I don't know
682
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if you saw Tenet. It's an incomprehensible film. It was a huge film. I don't think it did a ton
683
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:23,840
of business, but it was incomprehensible. But he does these, what else did he do? He didn't do
684
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Dunkirk. He did one of those, I forget which one he did. At any rate, his style of filmmaking,
685
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at least in this case, leaves you, everybody's a caricature. Nobody's a real person in this film.
686
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So you're left with not really being able to connect on a human level with anybody in the film.
687
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:59,600
I found a reviewer who speaks to this. I think Oppenheimer suffers from a lot of things that
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make recent Christopher Nolan movies challenging to watch. Specifically, I feel like a lot of Chris
689
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:10,720
Nolan movies are so loaded with plot that they forget character and emotion. A lot of this movie
690
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:15,920
feels like it's just hitting beats of Oppenheimer's life. Like it's a biopic basically, and it crams
691
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:21,920
in a bunch of events. And as a result, a lot of characters don't feel well served. So that's
692
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:32,880
pretty much what I'm talking about too. In a weird way, it's almost a first cousin to a History
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Channel documentary in that respect. Because it's more concerned with the plot than with the
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characters. Speaking of the characters though, this is a very Jewish story. I don't know if
695
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:03,520
you're aware of that. A lot of Jewish scientists helped deliver the bomb. Oppenheimer, Jew.
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The protagonist is Oppenheimer in this film. The antagonist is Louis Strauss.
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Louis Strauss was a politician who was basically, what at the time he was running the,
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I think he ran the Berkeley campus when Oppenheimer was there, which is where he ended
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up joining the program to develop the bomb. Louis Strauss ends up his nemesis. So you have
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a film where the protagonist and the antagonist are both Jews. A lot of the scientists are Jews.
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And yet they could barely find a Jew to cast in this film. Almost none of the leads are Jews.
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Oppenheimer is not played by a Jew. Strauss is not played by a Jew.
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There are one, I went through the list, one, two, three, four, I was able to identify
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six Jews, easily identify six Jews, and they're fairly down the list. Now, personally,
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I don't care. I don't care that there aren't Jews playing these roles. It doesn't have to
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be Jews playing these roles, but we don't live in that world, Jeremy. We live in the world of-
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I think we should have a protest.
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We live in the world of cultural appropriation. The same Hollywood that is pushing for quotas and
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equity and only an Asian can play an Asian, only a Native American can play a Native American.
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I think they should hire Native Americans to play Jews.
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Play the Jews, absolutely.
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To even out from the way that the Jews used to play the Native Americans.
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So, I found this in Newsweek, an editorial, an opinion piece from Malina Seval.
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An Irish actor playing Oppenheimer proves once again that Jews don't count.
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Robert Oppenheimer was Jewish, born to two Jewish parents. His mother, Ella,
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was an artist from New York. His father, Julius, emigrated as a teen from Germany to the United
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States in the late 1800s, fleeing the rampant anti-Semitism pervading Europe. Julius was
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penniless. Let's see, like many Jewish immigrants, survival mode meant assimilation into mainstream
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American life. Which, by the way, is what I think informs the reform Jewish movement in this country.
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It basically is Jews who were looking to assimilate and not stand out culturally.
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They wanted to fit in. And you can imagine why, because they are, what, they're fleeing lands
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that persecuted them because they stuck out. A lot of people probably just wanted to fit in and not
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be persecuted. So, I have a feeling that informs a lot about the sects of Judaism that have moved
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away from overt practice. He encountered anti-Semitism at almost every turn, the article
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goes on, facing discrimination at Harvard, the University of, I'm going to mispronounce this,
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Gottingen, that's in Europe, Gottingen, Gottingen, Gottingen, and UC Berkeley,
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where after lobbying faculty head Raymond Burge to hire fellow scientist Robert Serber, he was
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told, quote, one Jew in the department was enough. But in Oppenheimer, Christopher Nolan's hotly
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anticipated biopic opening today, One Jew was Too Many, the titular character played by an Irish
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Salian Murphy who was raised Catholic. Oppenheimer may not have ascribed to Jewish traditions,
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he may not have attended synagogue, he may have eaten ham sandwiches, but ethnically and genetically,
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he was very much still a Jew. One could even argue that it's because Oppenheimer was in a
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perpetual state of identity crisis, constantly wrestling with the fact of his Jewishness,
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that a far more authentic representation of him on screen can only be achieved through casting
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a Jewish actor in the role. But this does not seem to have occurred to Nolan.
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Diversity, equity, and inclusion when it comes to on-screen representation
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are almost entirely eluded, have almost entirely eluded the Jewish community.
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From the marvelous Mrs. Maisel, in which non-Jewish actor, actor Rachel Brosnahan,
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Brosnahan, I don't know who that is, played Jewish comedian Miriam for the series five season run
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and won an Emmy for doing so, to Bradley Cooper's upcoming Leonard Bernstein biopic,
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which Cooper directs and in which he stars as the famed Jewish composer. With the aid of a
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prosthetic nose, Jews are rarely cast in the roles of prominent Jewish characters. At a time wherein
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rates of anti-Semitism continue to climb per the FBI, Jews are the target of most hate crimes in
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America, of more hate crimes in America than any other ethno-religious group. Nolan's casting
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choice sends a very clear signal that, to quote comedian David Beidell, Jews do not count.
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So, that's one end of the spectrum. I think she makes a point about the potential authenticity
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that a, you know, if you cast a Jewish actor, especially a secular Jewish actor, that would be,
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they probably could bring something to the role that would be unavailable,
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but that is not imperative. It's not, you know, it's, I think of like Ben Kingsley in Schindler's
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list. He was brilliant. I don't know that anybody was sitting there thinking, what a miscast.
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Just for some balance, I found another piece in a place called digitalspy.com.
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Oppenheimer is more Jewish than you realize. You may know the story of Oppenheimer, but Nolan,
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this is from Gabrielle Giesinger, you may know the story of Oppenheimer, but Nolan creates an
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evocative intrinsically human version of that story. It was captivating and moving and
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quintessentially Jewish. There is always debate whenever a story centers on a Jewish person,
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regardless of how that individual fiction or real defines themselves. Kvetching over Jew face,
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I like that term, Jew face, kvetching over Jew face. And who should play a Jew, preoccupies,
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well, mostly Jewish critics, to be honest. In his letter to the Atomic Energy Commission
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charges, which Nolan integrated verbatim into the movie, Oppenheimer wrote, quote,
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I had a continuing smoldering fury about the treatment of Jews in Germany. I saw what the
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depression was doing to my students. And through them, I began understanding how deeply political
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and economic events could affect men's lives. I began to feel the need to participate more fully
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in the life of the community. And she goes on, there are countless more obvious ways in which
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Nolan addresses not only Oppenheimer's Jewishness, but all the various ways one can be a Jew. His
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longtime friend and colleague, played by David Krumholtz, David Krumholtz was the leading Jew
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in the film. It's a supporting role, but he was definitely the top role played by a Jew.
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Meets him on a train in Germany and easily uses Yiddish, a language Oppenheimer doesn't understand
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despite also being a New York Jew like your writer. Between these two men is attention of
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what it means to be Jewish, how one actively participates in that community and how one
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internalizes what that means. Then there is Louis Strauss, played by Robert Downey Jr.,
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another version of what it means to be Jewish. Strauss was an active reformed Jew, having served
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as president of Temple Emanuel in Manhattan for a decade amongst other things. On the face of it,
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Strauss is more Jewish than Oppenheimer, and yet in the albeit imagined scene where the two meet,
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there is a succinctly potent exchange that sums up this very debate. Oppenheimer addresses Mr.
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Strauss pronouncing it how one assumes it would be pronounced, only for Strauss to correct him.
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It's pronounced straws in the southern fashion. The reply, ah, Oppenheimer,
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Oppenheimer, no matter how you say it, they know I'm Jewish.
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So, and that gets to just as a sub point, the antagonist in this film was not even like an
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orthodox, deeply conservatively religious Jew. It was a reformed Jew. It was a liberal Jew.
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So, they basically create not only this narrative that it is anti-communists are the oppressor,
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communists are the oppressed, there is this subtext that it's there's a bad Jew and a good Jew.
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And neither of these Jews are played by Jews.
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Well, all of that makes me want to make a movie where we cast everybody, where all the actors are
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the wrong race. We would get so attacked, we would have a hit movie. We could have like a black
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family played by a white family. Like the whitest white family. The whitest white actor.
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Good morning sweetheart. Have you made my breakfast yet? What are we having?
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Right, and we could have a white family played by black actors. Yes, you do that one.
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Like we miscast everybody race-wise. You do that one. I did the white voice.
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You do the black one. Well, I should get into it. How are we going to do that?
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Yeah, I don't think that that's, I don't think it's a real controversy.
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Frankly, you know, Jews are pretty well represented behind the camera and it's a
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lot of Jewish storytelling. So, I don't think it, you know, it doesn't matter who's playing.
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I don't think it matters. I think that the problem, my problem with the actor who played
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Oppenheimer is I don't think he was very good as Oppenheimer. He's got this look on his face,
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like he's just crazy. And I've gone back and looked at footage of Oppenheimer and Oppenheimer
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has a very intense look, but nothing like what this actor looks like. This actor looks like he's
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insane. Oppenheimer didn't look insane. He looked incredibly serious.
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And I think this is all an attempt by the Jews that made the movie and the Jews that control
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Hollywood and the Jews that control the entire world to make it look like they don't actually
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control everything. Because otherwise they would have had a Jewish actor play a Jewish character.
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Yes. Very sneaky the way they do that. They even brought in a non-Jewish director and he
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adapted the screenplay. So how can you say we control everything?
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Okay. So now you know what actually was offensive is there is a scene in this film that is actually
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truly offensive and it was not lost on the nation of India.
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And now Bobby or Oppenheimer. If you're on the-
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She didn't say Bobby. She said Barbie.
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And now Bobby or Oppenheimer. If you're on the internet, you cannot escape this question.
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Both movies released this weekend, Bobby is doing better overall, but in India,
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Oppenheimer has pulled ahead. Just one problem though. The movie has offended people in India,
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including information and broadcasting minister Anurag Thakur. He's upset with the censor board.
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He wants a certain scene to be deleted. Which scene? Well time for some context and therefore spoilers.
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Around 20 minutes into the movie, there is an intimate sequence, a sex scene. It involves
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Oppenheimer and his mistress. Midway through the scene, the woman gets up and walks over to a bookshelf.
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She picks up a book. It's the Bhagavad Gita, a Hindu religious text. Now Oppenheimer could read Sanskrit.
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He often quoted from the Bhagavad Gita. In this scene, the woman asks him to read from it.
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He does so and the intimate sequence resumes. Now I have to tell you this.
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This is the PG-13 description of what happened. That's parental guidance for viewers under 13 years of age.
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The real version is rated R. It's very explicit and provoking.
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The makers wanted to show Oppenheimer's proficiency in Sanskrit, his interest in the Gita. Great.
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But why do that in the middle of a sex scene? I'm sure he read the Gita elsewhere too.
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So the makers made a conscious choice. They decided to fetishize a holy book.
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It was the Bhagavad Gita in this movie. Could it be the Bible or the Quran in the next one?
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I wonder how that will go. What is the point of this? Is it just to insult and provoke?
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Because this scene is not fundamental to the story. It doesn't question religious dogmas or customs.
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Neither does it pose any important questions. It's just there for the sake of it.
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And this is my favorite comment she makes.
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While writing any scene, filmmakers usually ask questions like why is this happening?
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Why is the character doing what he or she is doing? In this case, the question seems to be why not?
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I love that she has to lecture Hollywood. She's right. She's absolutely right.
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This scene was completely unnecessary. It was totally gratuitous.
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It was you and I have talked about this before. I don't like scenes in movies where they have the lovemaking scene.
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It's pornography. This was the pornographic moment in the movie. And she's absolutely right.
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Great that they wanted to highlight that he knew the language.
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There was no reason to put it into a pornographic frame. None. It's insulting that they did that.
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Why not fetishize the Bhagavad Gita? Why not provoke?
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Well, this provocation for the sake of it is problematic.
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And it can be a slippery slope on matters of faith and insensitive societies.
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So what's the solution? Maybe try to understand Indian sensitivities better.
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See it as more than a big market for your movies. Try to understand the pulse and respect the faith.
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If not, this won't be a one-off.
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Now, don't hold your breath, lady, because they don't even respect the faith of people in this country.
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So they don't they don't respect anybody's faiths. So no, I don't. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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The only faith they respect is their own religion of progressivism.
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That's true.
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And my last clip on this and then we'll move on is from Robert Oppenheimer himself.
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And this clip just screams to me that all these people on the left who just produced this love letter to American communism,
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Oppenheimer would be ashamed of them all.
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Science has profoundly altered the conditions of man's life, both materially and in ways of the spirit as well.
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It has extended the range of questions in which man has a choice.
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It has extended man's freedom to make significant decisions.
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No one can predict what vast new continents of knowledge the future of science will discover.
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But we know that as long as men are free to ask what they will, free to say what they think, free to think what they must,
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science will never regress and freedom itself will never be wholly lost.
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I love the newsreel music there at the end.
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OK, progressive left, what do you think Oppenheimer would have to say about you today
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and the way you've treated the freedom of expression and thought in science, let alone everywhere else?
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He probably would put his finger on the button and press it.
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So, yeah, Oppenheimer, I still do recommend everybody go see it in theaters.
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Don't wait for it to come to your home.
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Buy popcorn. And buy popcorn. That is exactly right.
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And frankly, that is how you can give back to the podcast today.
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That's right, ladies and gentlemen, we've arrived at that part in the podcast where we get to explain to you how it is we do business here.
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You may have noticed we don't have any corporate sponsors.
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And that is because we are not a corporate safe production.
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We're not brand safe for corporations. That's why we have citizen sponsors.
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And our citizen sponsors are all of you. If you're listening to this program right now, you are a citizen producer of this program and can become a citizen sponsor.
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The way you become a citizen sponsor, it's called value for value.
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And it is very simple. If you have felt that we have delivered value to you in this podcast and previous podcasts, we ask you to return value to the podcast so that we can keep this going.
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Jeremy, how can they do that? What are the ways they can bring value to our podcast?
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Share the show. Tweet the show. Post the show on your Facebook.
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The show needs to be shared. I don't know if you noticed, Andrew, I think some of the people aren't doing it.
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There could be more sharing going on. That is true.
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You know, is it that people don't want people? I think that what's happening, Jeremy, is people are using the content that we're that we're bringing and they are repeating it in their own social circles.
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And they don't want to reveal the program that is that is actually informing it.
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Why would they want to do that?
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Because we make people look smart. That's why I'm saying I don't I almost don't blame them. I you know, who is a tough call, you know, I love I like our listeners looking smart.
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But at the same time, you need to share the show. Please share the show.
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I think well, that's silly. They shouldn't do that if they got something from the show that they thought was a viewpoint that they want to use or borrow or say it was, you know, they could they should just say it's a show they produce.
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Another Yes, that's right. Yeah, because you can be like, you know, yeah, right. Right. Like, so yeah, like, oh, you never heard this idea before you like the idea. So I got it from the show I produced.
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Truth. Jeremy's right. That's right. Your producer take that credit. We're proud and share the show.
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You can participate by sending in stories, be an active producer send us stories and we had a producer send us clips this week. I don't have them ready for the show today but we had a producer actually did clippings and that Jeremy, that's another great way
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people can can give back clip the show and post it don't just post the whole show. Take what is interesting to you. Post that may do a clip post that and leave it and put up and do it with a comment on your social media about what's interesting about it.
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I think that's people are more interested I think in being exposed that way through like, oh, this was interesting or that was interesting and it makes them want to go learn more and be exposed to more. So, right, I have received text messages from people who have said, that was a great point.
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I totally didn't see it that way. Whatever they were taught whatever we were talking about that time. Go find that. Go back, find that section that made you reach out and send a text.
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Record two minutes of it, make a clip of it, and share that post that somewhere, you know, and just put it on your Facebook interesting point here by genius cultural narrow pissed Jeremy Siegel and Andrew Marcus.
886
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When we get our website up we should put up instructions for people on Mac and PC tools that they can use for clipping, and how to do it. That should be some instructional thing that we do. So we can train our producers.
887
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:23,400
Right. Probably, I would bet there are a lot of people that listen and they think that they'd have they don't really know how to do it.
888
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:42,400
But some do. I think that's true. That's true. You know another way people can get back, we're going to be launching a newsletter, an email newsletter so please write us at truth at truthbait.com with your email address and put in the subject line, subscribe.
889
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:53,400
And when we have our newsletter, you will be subscribed. Right as a truth at truth bait.com and subscribe.
890
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:59,400
We had a citizen producer, Jeff in Elkhorn.
891
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:07,400
Last week was telling us to go see this movie.
892
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:12,400
The Essential Church.
893
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:19,400
And he said he was going to see it and write us a review.
894
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:29,400
But I didn't see a review from him did you. He has not sent us a review yet. I have not seen the film. You did see the film, yes.
895
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:35,400
I saw it at a screening on Sunday.
896
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:48,400
Do so do we want to talk a little bit we played in the last episode you played a trailer. I don't think we need to play another trailer of the movies people who are listening already heard it.
897
01:15:48,400 --> 01:16:13,400
But the film is a documentary that recaps a lot of what happened during the COVID lockdowns and specifically to three churches, one being Grace Community Church out in California that is a, there's a really popular big pastor there john McArthur, and he ended up suing,
898
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:32,400
McArthur was taken to court by Los Angeles County and they tried to shut down his church threatened with jail and what ended up happening is, is everything went in favor in the courts of his church and he and they ended up getting all their legal fees paid for by the county
899
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:45,400
one money, you know financial damages I think in it. The film, you asked a question when we talked about it the other day because we were talking about what kind of film, would it be.
900
01:16:45,400 --> 01:17:03,400
It is an informational advocacy film. And I think it for what it is. It's done fairly well. It, it, it gets, there's a, there's very good information in the film.
901
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:22,400
As a, as a, as a Christian, there's good Christian history that I was unaware of and, and to that point, some that might be interesting for people who aren't, you know, part of the church, just to see that throughout the course of history there have been attempts
902
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:47,400
by kings and, you know, to interfere in church functions, just like they tried around the world, and successfully in many cases to shut down churches from meeting. And that's kind of the big theme is, is, is governments getting involved in shutting down church and in America where we have a First Amendment right to have church.
903
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:52,400
It's totally different here though. It's totally different in our case.
904
01:17:52,400 --> 01:18:12,400
There was, there was, there was the, the film in a bunch of ways I think were missed opportunities. You asked a question like why were they putting it in theaters and I think that was a good question. I think that this film was probably a good film for churches to show to their members or to their attendance.
905
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:28,400
It's good information there. It's not an entertaining movie and you know it's not, they don't get behind the scenes into any of the lawsuits or legal cases. There's no, there's no sort of like fly on the wall where you're in the room, you know where you can be.
906
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:44,400
There's a couple of clips that the filmmaker had used from, you know, other sources I think like rebel news and stuff who were on the scene at some of the kit where these pastors were put in jail. And when they were, I would say those were the actual highlights of the film is when those
907
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:59,400
pastors in Canada were released from jail and there was somebody on the scene, getting them hugging their wives and getting out like in tears that part was really, you know, emotionally moving.
908
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:22,400
You know, it's good for what it is. It's like what you said, I would say it's basically like a Citizens United film. It's a series of interviews basically retrospectively looking back at COVID and how it affected and impacted the church.
909
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:43,400
I recommend it to people interested in that topic. I don't see this movie appealing to anybody outside of the church. It's not going to become something like, you know, the one, the other one that we were talking about the other day, The Sound of Freedom or Jesus Revolution or something like
910
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:53,400
those actually I think penetrated a little bit outside of the church community or people who reside inside that community.
911
01:19:53,400 --> 01:20:01,400
That's a missed opportunity then and it leaves it on the table for us to do a story that actually does.
912
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:22,400
Yeah, I mean I was watching it and I was just thinking like there's all these moments where, oh, this would be a perfect cut back to what was actually happening or like take me to a, just take me to a phone call between this pastor and his wife because all they're doing is telling us about it.
913
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And it's fine for what it is.
914
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:29,400
It's hard to do retrospective that way. You've got to be really careful how you do it.
915
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:43,400
I just, I felt myself wanting and I told my pastor actually I was like, you know, like, if this were you, and this was us in that moment, and they were coming to take you away to jail.
916
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:49,400
I mean, I would not have given you a choice to let me set up cameras in your house 24 hours a day.
917
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,400
Yeah.
918
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You know, so that you catch it. And I don't want to be too critical on the director. I mean, maybe he did want to do something like that and, you know, just maybe the people involved didn't want to do it, but he is a, the director is a member of Grace Community Church.
919
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So he was there when the stuff was going on and he was there while it was happening to their church, and while they were being threatened, and while they were being told they had to close down.
920
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,400
He should have been the story that they wrapped it around.
921
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:33,400
Right. I mean, could have done that, but basically all it is is a retrospective look back with a lot of interviews and a lot of dramatized reenactment.
922
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:49,400
And so it misses that opportunity, and I don't know, I watched an interview with him talking about the film. There's all this inside baseball kind of stuff of what was going on between the church's elder board and deciding whether they should stay open or not.
923
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:56,400
And this happened in churches across the country. They were deciding, what do we do? Do we listen to the government? Do we not listen to the government?
924
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:11,400
How do we not listen to the government in a biblical way where we're still obeying God, but, you know, exercising our freedom? And those were real questions and serious issues for churches around the world.
925
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:16,400
And weren't a lot of these churches harassed when they were praying outside? Like they were trying to not be in violation.
926
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:30,400
They were trying to be obedient, but they were trying to make sure they were not disobeying God's command to worship and to worship meeting as a group, not just, you know, not just from your computer.
927
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:37,400
The church doesn't, I mean, the Bible doesn't say, you know, worship me through the internet.
928
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:53,400
So these were real issues and, you know, and it's serious issues, but he said he wanted to make a film because a lot, evidently, this church is like 10,000 people and a few thousand people left when the church decided to stay open.
929
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They thought that the church should have closed and should have done masking and should have done all the things they should have done.
930
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,400
So they had to leave the church? I mean, can't you just stay home?
931
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:14,400
It happened in many churches. In fact, my own family, we decided to discontinue attending a church.
932
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:19,400
We were attending because of their, you know, compliance with everything that was going on.
933
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And we wanted, we thought that that wasn't correct.
934
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:30,400
Yes, but that makes sense because you wanted to be able to go commune somewhere. If you are upset because they're not shutting down, there's a simple solution. Go home!
935
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:41,400
But there were people there that bought into the propaganda, that thought that you needed to follow these things, that you were jeopardizing people's health and all of that sort of stuff.
936
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:56,400
But so this director said that he wanted to make a film that would, you know, speak to those people that had left, basically laying out the case of why and what went on behind the scenes.
937
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,400
And I was like, so did that work? Did he?
938
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:10,400
I don't know. It seems like a massive undertaking to try to, you know, to get your point across if they hadn't already received it.
939
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:25,400
But essentially, that's kind of what it was with the addition of some interesting history and stuff that I didn't know and things about martyrs and similar situations that occurred throughout history,
940
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:43,400
which were interesting. But in my view, those could have been packaged. They were produced well. There was, you know, visually it was done well. The sound, you know, music, all of that, it was good.
941
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,400
It was a well-done production in that case.
942
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,400
They need to throw all of those tools out.
943
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:58,400
They should throw all of those tools out and just try and focus on storytelling. Throw out all of the high-tech, throw it out.
944
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:08,400
Right. Or produce like a multi-part series about church history for churches to show. But it's not a movie for the movie theater.
945
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:19,400
I mean, it's not. You know, and I just want to say I don't have any problem with it being in the theaters, and I can see a utility for it coming to theaters. My point is that it won't get what's called held over.
946
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:36,400
So when you book into a theater, whether you've paid for the theater yourself or the theater has bought your film to show it, either way, it will start on a Thursday or a Friday, and then it'll play for the entire week.
947
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:45,400
So if you're in for the weekend, you are playing for the entire week. It is very rare that a film will play on the weekend and then be pulled on Monday.
948
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:59,400
The booking is for that entire week that follows. And then if you are what's called held over for the next weekend, that only happens if you are generating business.
949
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:09,400
So they won't keep you if you're not generating business, because they need people, they need butts in the seats. They need people there buying popcorn.
950
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:28,400
So my point is, if the film doesn't entertain, if it doesn't, and again, I want to be careful when I say entertain, if it doesn't tell a story, if it doesn't make storytelling the main thrust of how it achieves what it's trying to achieve,
951
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:35,400
it won't be there for very long, because people go to the movies to see stories.
952
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:44,400
And it sounded to me in that interview with the director like he actually made a point of saying like there's a story here.
953
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:59,400
I think he wanted it to be storytelling, but it's only storytelling in as far as retrospective telling some things that happened.
954
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:24,400
But there's no, there's, and again, I think it's fine for what it is. And I'm not saying it shouldn't be in the theater, but I'm agreeing with you. The point is like, I don't know what it does, or I don't see people running out to go see it.
955
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:49,400
And so it's too bad, because I think in that time, and I wasn't around a church like that, but it's easy to look back to, like I said, I don't want to criticize too much, because maybe he did want to do something like that, but couldn't, and then maybe he didn't have the idea of putting himself in the film or something like that.
956
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:56,400
I don't know, but it's kind of what we thought it would be, basically.
957
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:02,400
Well, there is a utility, you've said that too, there is a utility for this kind of film if you're into...
958
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:31,400
It's not that it's wrong or bad or shouldn't be made, it's just that it's, like from our experience and the way that we've tried to make content and documentary stuff we were working on, our style was more, and especially with Hating Brite Art, like if anybody still hasn't seen that, you know, where you're really kind of living with the main character of the film, and then that takes you through, through his experience.
959
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:38,400
And you go through his experiences in real time to see, you know, the overarching point that you make.
960
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,400
Right, the fact is that...
961
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:40,400
Or points that you make in the film.
962
01:28:40,400 --> 01:29:00,400
Andrew Breitbart was our vessel. We were telling a story about media bias, media malfeasance, media malpractice, and Andrew Breitbart was the perfect vessel to tell that story, because it was all happening in real time around him, in a very exciting, engaging, energetic way.
963
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:05,400
So, he was the gift to tell that story.
964
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:14,400
And that's, you know, that is, that's, yes, for us, that's, those are the waters we like to swim in to tell a story.
965
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:19,400
You know, and with this, where I think there is missed opportunity, I think in some ways unfortunate.
966
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:27,400
It's too bad that I don't think this film is a film for people outside the church. I think it's too in the weeds.
967
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:38,400
And it was long, and some of it carried on too far and too long, basically, even for me, as someone who's interested in the material.
968
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:48,400
But I would say that's unfortunate, because I know a lot of people that are, you know, outside the church community that are like, you know, why wouldn't the churches close? Why do they think they should stay open?
969
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:57,400
And it'd be good if there was a way to communicate that argument to those people. But they're not going to see this movie.
970
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:04,400
My chief complaint in terms of, see, I want a lot of content like this in the theaters.
971
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:14,400
I want it to be good, because I want people who feel as though Hollywood has not been serving them, has not been speaking to them, has not been giving them any stories that they would want.
972
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:22,400
I want them to have content in the theaters that does speak to them. It doesn't have to speak to everybody else.
973
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:29,400
But, you know, it needs to be engaging. It needs to tell a story.
974
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:41,400
So it is in theaters July 28th. And if this is the kind of content that you might find engaging, then please go and see it July 28th, or perhaps your church will be showing it.
975
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:52,400
Hopefully there's something for it. I still want to see it. And Jeff, please still send us your take on this, just because Jeremy and I have talked about it.
976
01:30:52,400 --> 01:31:04,400
Yeah, I would definitely. I was looking for it, but I didn't hear it yet. But I did see it Sunday night. So I wanted to offer my thoughts on it.
977
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:09,400
I want to see it. I know I still have Barbie I have to see. I'm going to go see Barbie.
978
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:13,400
I would definitely go see Essential Church over Barbie.
979
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:20,400
Well, there you go. I think we're going to give Jeff producer credit for that segment too, by the way.
980
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:26,400
That was we would not have even known about that film if it was not for him. And I thank you, Jeff, for putting that on our radar.
981
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:32,400
That was definitely worth us getting into.
982
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:39,400
Oh, I'm just going to I have a couple of stories that I don't have any I don't have any audio for them, but I want to play.
983
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:43,400
I just want to talk about.
984
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,400
Chicago is getting really good. The livability factor in Chicago is fantastic.
985
01:31:47,400 --> 01:32:04,400
The old mayor's dailies, as corrupt as they were, they knew that Chicago would thrive or die on the vine if it was whether or not the city was livable for families.
986
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:09,400
Do you remember that when you used to live in Chicago? That was a big theme of the dailies.
987
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:18,400
The Daily Junior, especially he was his whole goal was to make Chicago livable for families. He thought that was the key to success.
988
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:28,400
I don't remember that marketing, but I'll take your word for it. It was absolutely prevalent everywhere in society.
989
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,400
Here's a headline.
990
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:35,400
Twelve year old boy gets mugged as Chicago's robbery surge continues.
991
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:40,400
Twelve year old boy was among the victims targeted in a Sunday afternoon spree.
992
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:45,400
More robberies were reported overnight and another popped up Saturday afternoon.
993
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:56,400
The twelve year old was walking in the 2300 block of West Chicago Avenue when four men demanded his property around 1225 p.m.
994
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:01,400
I think it's a loose use of the term men.
995
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:09,400
What kind of man robs a twelve year old? Four. It took four men to rob a twelve year old too.
996
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,400
Yeah, Chicago. It could have been a really big twelve year old.
997
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,400
I suppose.
998
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:24,400
Twelve year olds getting robbed in Chicago. I think the new communist mayor in Chicago is doing a bang up job.
999
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:31,400
And then this breath of fresh air. The story started circulating a couple days ago.
1000
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:38,400
74% of college students say they would report professors for saying something offensive.
1001
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,400
This is from College Fix.
1002
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:47,400
When those results are broken down by ideology, a different pattern emerges.
1003
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:55,400
81% of liberal students think professors should be reported to the university for saying something deemed offensive.
1004
01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:05,400
53% of conservative students who think so.
1005
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:10,400
The Institute reported. Okay, yeah. So 53% of conservative students thought. That's alarming too.
1006
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,400
Half the conservative students.
1007
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:24,400
Thought that they should be reported for saying things like a civilized society doesn't need guns.
1008
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,400
Not getting vaccinated for COVID is irresponsible and inconsiderate to others.
1009
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:33,400
I mean, like I can see where you might disagree with those things, but to demand that to say that you would.
1010
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:38,400
I think they should be. Yeah, I think they should be reported for a lot of things.
1011
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:44,400
Let's see. There's a lot of they're like preaching pedophilia now. I mean, I think they should be reported for that.
1012
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:49,400
Well, that yes. Okay, that's fine.
1013
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:58,400
Yeah, when you do the breakdown, when you really dive down, there's a big cutoff between the liberal students and the conservative students.
1014
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:11,400
The let's see, not getting vaccinated for COVID is irresponsible. 14% of conservatives said that should be reported. And that was the highest number of any that should be reported among conservatives.
1015
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:21,400
The lowest number among liberals. Biological sex is a scientific fact. There are two sexes, male and female.
1016
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:30,400
That was the lowest one that would get reported. That was nearly double the highest reported one of the conservatives. That one came in at 27%.
1017
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:39,400
So there's definitely a disconnect between which group of students are really pushing this.
1018
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:48,400
Did you? Did you have more on that? No, I don't have a clip on it, but it's just depressing.
1019
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:56,400
Did you see Obama's personal chef drowned?
1020
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:00,400
You know, that's what's so crazy about that story.
1021
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:12,400
So when I first heard when it when the news first broke, and it was just, you know, kayaker missing near Obama's compound.
1022
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:19,400
My first thought was, oh, they killed him. Somebody.
1023
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:28,400
Somebody. And then I thought, okay, don't don't know. Don't don't let that be your first impulse. That's your that was my first thought.
1024
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:37,400
I here I thought I was being like a bad person. Like, how do you know cynical have I become that that's my first thought.
1025
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:43,400
This is not now that you said that things are starting to make sense to me because I'm like, this is weird.
1026
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:48,400
Like even the amount of coverage it's you know, it's like it's a it's a huge story.
1027
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:53,400
That was before I knew that it was his chef that was that was just person.
1028
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:59,400
Just somebody. Then when I when I heard it was a black man near the Obama compound.
1029
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:07,400
Now, now you want to hear how dark and cynical I am. My first thought was well, I guess my next thought was up Obama's lover.
1030
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,400
Yep. They had to take out Obama's lover. He knew too much.
1031
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:18,400
There's a couple weird things like listen, listen to this is CBS.
1032
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:24,400
Here we go. We are learning about a tragic story involving former President Obama's personal chef.
1033
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:33,400
The body of Tafari Campbell was found yesterday in a pond near the Obama's Martha's Vineyard estate after police were alerted Sunday about a man struggling in the water.
1034
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:44,400
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. He was found where did he just say he was found in a pond.
1035
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:49,400
I think he did. That's the first I heard of that chef.
1036
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:55,400
The body of Tafari Campbell was found yesterday in a pond near the Obama's Martha's Vineyard.
1037
01:37:55,400 --> 01:38:02,400
I hadn't heard that. That's the first time I'm hearing that. Wow.
1038
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:09,400
I think it's a I think it's a really big pond. How does a kayaker die in a pond like that?
1039
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:13,400
Well, and so yeah, but like all of it is weird.
1040
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:21,400
After police were alerted Sunday about a man struggling in the water, the Obamas say Campbell's drowning death has left them broken hearted.
1041
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:25,400
Scott McFarland has more possible drowning.
1042
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:30,400
Massachusetts state police say divers found the 45 year old yesterday morning after an hours long search.
1043
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:36,400
Police had been called to the Obama residence Sunday night after someone had reported a possible drowning in a nearby pond.
1044
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,400
As far as we know, they're currently in the water.
1045
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:44,400
The body of a man was found about 100 feet from the shore in roughly eight feet of water.
1046
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:51,400
He was later identified as former White House sous chef Tafari Campbell. Now listen to this again.
1047
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:57,400
Massachusetts state police say divers found the 45 year old yesterday morning after an hours long search.
1048
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:03,400
Police had been called to the Obama residence Sunday night after someone had reported a possible drowning in a nearby pond.
1049
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:07,400
Someone. Someone. What someone? Someone.
1050
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:12,400
Same thing in ABC's report. Is this pond on Obama's property?
1051
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,400
It's like, yeah, it's like a, it's like right.
1052
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:26,400
It's, I don't know because the photos you see, I mean, it looks like part of a bay or something, you know, like it looks like it's out there.
1053
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,400
You know, like they have a coastal home, right?
1054
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:36,400
So it's, it looks like an inlet. Of course, I don't know if that's, that's where it was or not, but they.
1055
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:51,400
I just thought that was weird. Every report says someone, a report from after a call came from someone and no one is saying who the 911 call came from.
1056
01:39:51,400 --> 01:40:06,400
Gateway Pundit has part of the 911 dispatch call, but the only voice is the actual dispatcher. You don't hear the call coming in, making the actual report.
1057
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:14,400
There's only a dispatcher, you know, saying, you know, telling the police to go out and check the scene.
1058
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:18,400
You hear a little bit of that in this clip here.
1059
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,400
As far as we know, they're currently in the water.
1060
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:27,400
The body of a man was found about 100 feet from the shore in roughly eight feet of water.
1061
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:30,400
Hundred feet from the shore.
1062
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:39,400
Okay, so eight feet away right now looking at a photo, an aerial photo of the, of the property.
1063
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:44,400
And it looks like there's an adjacent property. I don't know if it's part of the compound.
1064
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:54,400
I would be, I wouldn't be surprised if they owned that, this adjacent piece as well. And it looks as though there is some sort of a pond, a large pond.
1065
01:40:54,400 --> 01:41:03,400
A hundred feet. Oh, I mean, I can't tell how many feet, but what would, it sounds probably more than a hundred feet back from the coastline.
1066
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:12,400
So it's, it's inland. If it's a pond, if it's what I'm looking at, it's inland from the coastline.
1067
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:18,400
Yeah, everything, the pond is, is, I mean, there's pictures, this is on the Daily Mail.
1068
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:22,400
There's pictures of the pond on Monday morning. So it's, it looks like a big pond.
1069
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:26,400
Why would you kayak in that? And why would you do that at night?
1070
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:32,400
Well, that's one of the other weird things. So-
1071
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:33,400
This does not make sense.
1072
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:39,400
He was later identified as former White House sous chef, Tafari Campbell.
1073
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:43,400
Authorities said the Obama family was not staying at that home during the accident.
1074
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,400
Now that's also another thing-
1075
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,400
Wait, who's he cooking for?
1076
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:57,400
Right. That's another part that's in every report. The Obamas weren't there. The Obamas weren't there. The Obamas weren't staying there.
1077
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,400
Maybe one Obama was.
1078
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:19,400
Well, according to the Gateway Pundit, there's a headline. Wow. Story changes. Barack and Michelle Obama were on Martha's Vineyard when their private chef mysteriously drowned.
1079
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:33,400
Of course. Somebody, somebody in the, this story, the cover story went out and then the Obamas heard it and they were like, no, come on guys, we got to do better than that. Who was he there cooking for?
1080
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:39,400
Right. You don't know, they just let him hang out at their mansion, I guess.
1081
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,400
The only thing you have left to do is just put the labels on.
1082
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:42,400
No, this is, this is him.
1083
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:52,400
Campbell can be seen here in a White House video during the Obama administration making homemade beer for the president. In a statement, the Obamas said they first met Campbell during his time working at the White House.
1084
01:42:52,400 --> 01:43:02,400
They say they then asked him to stay on with the family after the president left office. The Obamas added that they were brokenhearted over the loss of someone they described as, quote, a beloved part of our family.
1085
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:11,400
Police say Campbell was visiting Martha's Vineyard at the time of the accident, but it's not yet clear whether he was staying at the Obamas' home. For CBS Mornings.
1086
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,400
Now this guy Campbell's married with kids.
1087
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,400
Well, but so is Obama.
1088
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:34,400
Right. So, but he's not on, you know, he's, he's visiting Martha's Vineyard, you know, or is he visiting him with his family? Doesn't seem like it. So of course he was there with the Obamas. Now listen to this, this ABC report.
1089
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:42,400
It turned out of the tragedy of the Obamas stayed in Martha's Vineyard where the family chef was found dead. The Obamas were not there at the time. We're learning more about what happened.
1090
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,400
First thing Stephanopoulos says, the Obamas weren't there at the time.
1091
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:50,400
And weren't there at the time is not the same as weren't staying there.
1092
01:43:50,400 --> 01:44:01,400
But regardless, this is CBS and ABC. These are, this is official narrative coming out, at least in the beginning of it. These were coordinated, these were scripted comments.
1093
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:12,400
Marco Morgan has the details. Good morning, Marco. Good morning guys. Talk about a tragedy here. The husband and father or two when missing about 100 feet offshore Sunday evening. His body wouldn't be recovered until the following day.
1094
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:19,400
The Obama is saying they now join the victim's family and those who knew him in grieving the loss of Tafari Campbell.
1095
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:23,400
African American male on a paddleboard. No life preserver.
1096
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:36,400
This morning, tragedy unfolding near the Obama family's Martha's Vineyard estate. Police recovering the body of 45-year-old Tafari Campbell, a beloved personal chef and friend of the former president and first lady.
1097
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:45,400
The call for help came in Sunday evening for the missing paddleboarder who witnesses tell police was last seen wearing all black before they eventually lost eye contact with him.
1098
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:50,400
Jeremy, it's even crazier. You don't paddleboard in a pond.
1099
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,400
I'm going out. Hold on.
1100
01:44:53,400 --> 01:45:00,400
I feel like going out paddleboarding tonight. I'm not going to wear a life jacket and I'm going to wear all black.
1101
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:04,400
And somebody's going to see me do it.
1102
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,400
Someone's going to witness that I'm doing this.
1103
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:12,400
And someone's going to call 911 and tell them I drowned.
1104
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:17,400
Yeah. Who goes paddleboarding in a pond at night?
1105
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:34,400
In all black with no life jacket. When you do water sports, you usually, not always, but usually have colorful bright colors on.
1106
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:39,400
Usually, not always, but usually.
1107
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:47,400
I mean, there are some all black wetsuits and there are black bathing suits, you know, but usually when you like.
1108
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:56,400
So if you didn't know, I used to competitively race yachts on Lake Michigan, big boats.
1109
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:07,400
And you have gear, you have life, you know, you have flotation devices, you have foul weather gear, you know, there's all sorts of scenarios you might encounter.
1110
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:10,400
And of course, you don't always wear those when the weather is nice.
1111
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:14,400
But you typically have bright colored clothing.
1112
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,400
Foul weather gear is bright yellow and bright red.
1113
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:24,400
In the event that you go into the water unexpectedly, you can be found a lot more easily.
1114
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,400
What color is every life jacket you've ever seen?
1115
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:32,400
You know, there's always like reflective material on them.
1116
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:40,400
So it's strange, first of all, to go out doing something and not wear it.
1117
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:51,400
Like, I think if you're going on a paddleboard or you're going like windsurfing or something, I always see people wearing some sort of flotation device.
1118
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:58,400
Well, you know, as I'm looking online right now at paddleboarding, there is almost nobody wearing a flotation device.
1119
01:46:58,400 --> 01:46:59,400
Is that right?
1120
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:04,400
It seems to be an activity that a lot of people do without any flotation device.
1121
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,400
Well, that's stupid.
1122
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:15,400
It is. But, you know, I don't see a lot of people doing it at night, especially alone.
1123
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:16,400
On a pond.
1124
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:18,400
With dark clothes on.
1125
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,400
It doesn't make sense.
1126
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:24,400
Now, it could be that this is just the fog of war.
1127
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:34,400
You need to give it time for the actual facts to come out and we're just in a media environment where they're just ready to take anything to air to beat somebody else and they don't care what the facts are.
1128
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:35,400
That's true.
1129
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:39,400
So we're just getting garbage, garbage in, garbage out.
1130
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:42,400
That or this is a suspicious story.
1131
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,400
Well, keep listening.
1132
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,400
A 40-year-old male, possibly drowning.
1133
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:59,400
Campbell's paddleboard and hat would surface, but no sign of Campbell. Then the unimaginable. The husband and father of two found a dead 100 feet from shore and a depth of about eight feet in the Edgar Town Great Pond.
1134
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,400
Police say divers found his body by deploying a side scan sonar from a boat.
1135
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:07,400
Campbell first worked as a sous chef for the Obamas at the White House.
1136
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,400
Got to keep it under lock and key.
1137
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:13,400
Seen here brewing beer in this White House video.
1138
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,400
What you do is you take the beer bottle.
1139
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,400
Now authorities investigating the drowning.
1140
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,400
Campbell was on the vineyard visiting.
1141
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,400
The Obamas were not there at the time of the incident.
1142
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:34,400
Mr. and Mrs. Obama released in a statement calling him a warm, fun, extraordinary, kind person who made all of our lives a little brighter, adding he was a talented sous chef at the White House.
1143
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:38,400
He's been part of our lives ever since and our hearts are broken that he's gone.
1144
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:42,400
Campbell is survived by his wife and their twin boys.
1145
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:48,400
The couple's Instagram posts over the years showing their close relationship and tight knit family.
1146
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:54,400
And state and local police are investigating the incident. And guys, if you go to his Instagram page, it was full of life and personality.
1147
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,400
This is a loss right here.
1148
01:48:56,400 --> 01:49:02,400
So, so he's 100 feet away.
1149
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:10,400
100 feet is like three pool lengths.
1150
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,400
To you saying it should be deeper.
1151
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:15,400
Edgerton Pond, since I heard him, I heard it in that report.
1152
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:16,400
I looked it up.
1153
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,400
It appears to be that that might be the area.
1154
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:24,400
Because there's, I see this, the Vineyard Gazette, Martha's Vineyard News.
1155
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:31,400
President Obama buys home on Edgerton, Edgerton Great Pond.
1156
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,400
It's a big body of water.
1157
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,400
It just might be the area.
1158
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,400
It looks like a big body of water.
1159
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:44,400
But, and it looks like a body of water somebody could drown in.
1160
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,400
There's just some stuff that's weird.
1161
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:59,400
It's not like, no, but like a hundred, but still, like, and you could drown a hundred feet offshore of Lake Michigan, you know, in big waves and rough chop.
1162
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,400
I don't know what the conditions were here.
1163
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:12,400
If he went out without a life jacket on at night, he would assume it was calm conditions.
1164
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:24,400
Right? Like you would assume, because there are times, I remember living in Chicago, Lake Michigan was crashing over Lakeshore Drive.
1165
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:33,400
And those were times I would not consider going out for a swim with a life jacket on. Right?
1166
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:36,400
You got a good chance of dying or something like that.
1167
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:45,400
But there are times you could wade right in, there are times you could wade right into Lake Michigan and go for a swim all day and it's calm, flat water.
1168
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:47,400
There's not even a ripple on the water.
1169
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:50,400
I've been out swimming in the middle of Lake Michigan.
1170
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:58,400
You know, and, you know, there's like zero risk of anything happening unless you faint in the middle of your swim.
1171
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:09,400
So if he made a decision to go out paddle boarding in the dark, or maybe it wasn't dark yet, if it was evening time,
1172
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:13,400
but he's going out without a life jacket on, you'd assume it was calm conditions.
1173
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:21,400
And in calm conditions, I think it's generally pretty easy to swim a hundred feet.
1174
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:29,400
Not only that, you would assume that he is not an amateur.
1175
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:37,400
If he's going out alone at night without a life jacket, you'd assume he's done this before and is very comfortable with it.
1176
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:43,400
No, now there's also, evidently, he went with somebody.
1177
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:46,400
Well, who'd he go with?
1178
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,400
Nobody knows.
1179
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:56,400
Well, he went with whoever hit him over the head while he was out there.
1180
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:04,400
I don't know. It doesn't add up either because it's too soon or because there's something going on. It is weird.
1181
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,400
It is weird.
1182
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:12,400
And then there's video, of course, it's on Gateway.
1183
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:28,400
For some reason, there's pictures of him, like from his Instagram or something a couple years ago or a year ago, taking swimming lessons at a gym.
1184
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:33,400
And he's an inadequate swimmer. He's like swimming freestyle.
1185
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:38,400
Well, maybe he was drunk. Maybe the guy was drunk. Maybe he's an alcoholic. Maybe he was drunk.
1186
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:47,400
This is what I'm saying. We're joking about it. Yes, there's something that so far, it doesn't add up.
1187
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:55,400
Here's what I'm going to say. You made the point. As soon as you heard about it, you immediately thought the Obamas killed somebody.
1188
01:52:55,400 --> 01:53:01,400
Yes. Immediately. That's what I'm trained for now.
1189
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:14,400
I suspect no matter what occurred, whatever the truth is here, we're all supposed to think the Obamas killed somebody.
1190
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:20,400
They want us to think that. They want us to have this thought in our minds.
1191
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:27,400
There is no chef. He's a deep fake. AI generated.
1192
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:33,400
He never existed. How do we know he existed to begin with?
1193
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,400
That's all I'm saying.
1194
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:48,400
Did you see this story out of CNN about the shoplifting in San Francisco where they went to a convenience store?
1195
01:53:48,400 --> 01:54:03,400
It was like a Walgreens or CVS, something like that. While they're doing a segment about shoplifting, the store has shoplifted three times right in front of their camera.
1196
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:13,400
They've chained up the freezer section. Literally, they've got chains running across the freezer section so you can't open the doors.
1197
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:20,400
Richie Greenberg walked into a San Francisco Walgreens when he saw in the frozen food section this.
1198
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:30,400
Chains, heavy chains that went from padlock to padlock on both sides of the doors. And this was bizarre, something I'd never seen before.
1199
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:39,400
This is just more icing on the cake telling us that rampant crime has become a regular part of life.
1200
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:46,400
It's also typical that in the 30 minutes we were at this Walgreens,
1201
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:56,400
we watched three people, including this man, steal. Did that guy pay? Did that guy pay? He didn't pay.
1202
01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:16,400
Now, I need to give you some context that you can't hear. But when she says this guy's stealing right in front of us, typical that in the 30 minutes we were at this Walgreens,
1203
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:21,400
we watched three people, including this man, steal.
1204
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:36,400
They blurred out his face. The guy is literally stealing on camera, walking out the door with the stuff without paying, and they blurred out his face to protect his privacy.
1205
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:42,400
I've noticed this happening often, actually.
1206
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,400
The blurring out of their faces?
1207
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:55,400
Yeah. Think about it. Start looking at those types of clips, like security camera clips and stuff like that, and you'll notice that.
1208
01:55:55,400 --> 01:56:00,400
You'll notice that they always blur their face. It's like, why are they blurring their face?
1209
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:08,400
Wouldn't want to help get his image out there so people might be able to capture the guy. Nobody's trying to capture anybody.
1210
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:15,400
They're making news, literally a news organization, hiding information.
1211
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:17,400
Unbelievable.
1212
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:27,400
When thieves turned to cleaning out ice cream and frozen burritos, workers grew so frustrated they resorted to the chains. They were ordered down by corporate because of the negative messaging.
1213
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,400
What?
1214
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:36,400
They were ordered down by corporate because of the negative messaging.
1215
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:41,400
Uh...huh.
1216
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:46,400
But Walgreens isn't the only retailer impacted in San Francisco.
1217
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:57,400
At this store, frozen food is controlled with a cable lock, fake eyelashes locked behind plexiglass, along with lotion and nail polish.
1218
01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:03,400
Wait, fake eyelashes, lotion, and nail polish? I think we're getting to the heart of the problem, Jeremy.
1219
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:04,400
Women.
1220
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:07,400
Toxic femininity.
1221
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:11,400
Why are these women stealing all this stuff?
1222
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:16,400
Or they're not women.
1223
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,400
They're men women.
1224
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:24,400
Oh yeah, you're right. Well, those are real women, Jeremy. How dare you?
1225
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:25,400
They're he-she's.
1226
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:37,400
So that's the, that is the subtext to the story. The context is the blurring out of the faces of the people stealing and the subtext is it's women or people who identify as women.
1227
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:45,400
Meanwhile, the person who they blurred out, that was not, didn't appear to be somebody identifying as a woman.
1228
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,400
It gets, this is even better, more, more context for you. Listen to this.
1229
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:52,400
$14 bags of coffee under lock and key.
1230
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,400
What is this?
1231
01:57:54,400 --> 01:58:02,400
So now she's talking to somebody who's a guy who is standing in front of a display of Pete's coffee.
1232
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:06,400
And it's all behind plexiglass.
1233
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:14,400
This is in a grocery store. This is not like in a convenience store in,
1234
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:21,400
in, where was that in Missouri where the hands up don't shoot happened?
1235
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:22,400
In,
1236
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:23,400
Ferguson.
1237
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:32,400
Yeah, Ferguson, Missouri. It's not, that's not where this is. It's not in that convenience store. This is in a grocery store in San Francisco.
1238
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:35,400
$14 bags of coffee under lock and key.
1239
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What is this?
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I don't know. I don't understand why coffee.
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Oh, here she is.
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Now along comes someone to unlock the display for him so he can get his coffee.
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01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:54,400
It's become kind of like a police state in San Francisco.
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I love that he laughs when he says that it's become kind of a police state in San Francisco.
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01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:08,400
It's become kind of like a police state in San Francisco.
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01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,400
Well,
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here's some context for you. Hanging from the ceiling all the way down the length of the store are trans and gay pride flags.
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So little mystery to figure out how your town got to the point where you have to lock up the coffee.
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Yeah, great place.
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01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:39,400
But, hold on, we don't jump to any conclusions.
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When you're seeing that level of retail theft, that tends to be subsistence level retail theft.
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01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:51,400
People who are hungry for nail polish and eyelashes.
1253
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:52,400
People are hungry.
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01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:56,400
Here's some important context though on the city, Aaron.
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01:59:56,400 --> 02:00:02,400
Property crime and violent crime at the end of last year was actually lower than it was before the pandemic.
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Nothing to worry about here, folks. Everything's fine. Put it all in context.
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Oh, and to help you with your shopping, I don't know if you this story.
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02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:21,400
I saw this on the Daily Mail. I had to clip this.
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They're promoting this app called Veibs.
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And Veibs is, you walk around the grocery store, you take a picture of an item that you might want, and it tells you how woke the company is that makes that item.
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The best way to fight against these woke brands is with our wallets.
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That's why I use the Veibs app when I do my grocery shopping.
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02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:52,400
And she's holding up a pint of Ben & Jerry's.
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02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:56,400
Okay, this has a very poor rating, so we definitely are going to be putting this back.
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02:00:56,400 --> 02:01:00,400
But look at all the other ice creams in the store that have great ratings.
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We have Bluebell, we have Dreyer's, Telma, Bluebunny, Halo Top, even Baskin Robbins.
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So let's go pick up some ice cream that supports our values.
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So now she goes to the ice cream aisle, to the other side of the ice cream aisle, and she pulls out Dreyer's.
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Well, I looked it up. Dreyer's is a British company. It's actually owned by a partnership created by Nestle, between Nestle and a French company.
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So it's owned by Nestle. It's owned by a British and a French company. So there are your values for you. She goes on.
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02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:38,400
All right, now onto the next item on my list.
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02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:44,400
Next on my list are Tampons. Let's see what rating Tampax has.
1273
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:49,400
So they have a very low rating, but it shows that Playtex has a much better rating.
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02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:53,400
Playtex does make an organic cotton tampon, which is a lot better.
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02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,400
See how simple value-based shopping is?
1276
02:01:56,400 --> 02:02:02,400
Yeah, you know how simple value-based shopping is? Playtex. You know who the top owners of Playtex are?
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You got it. Black Rock and Vanguard. And in fact, I went and I added it up. They own between the two of them.
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02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:24,400
No, also iShares because iShares is owned by Black Rock. So between Black Rock and Vanguard, they own roughly 44% of the company.
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02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:28,400
There are your values. I clipped one more clip just to frame it.
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It's a trap.
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02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,400
It's a trap.
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02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:33,400
It's a trap.
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Don't go for it. Do not download Veibs.
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02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:46,400
A, I think this entire news story is just a native ad for Playtex and for Nestle.
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02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:47,400
Yeah.
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02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:52,400
Playtex is owned by Hanes.
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02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:59,400
So, yeah, I mean, this is just a, it's a scam. It's a scam.
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02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:02,400
Do not shop with Veibs.
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02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:14,400
And I don't even know what she's talking about. This is that what that last part there with the Playtex, that is absolutely classic biological women trying to be gatekeepers of periods.
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This is what I mean when the transphobia just comes out. The audacity and just the the the arrogance for cis women to believe that they own periods, that they own womanhood.
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You don't. Okay. You don't own periods. You don't own womanhood. You experience both and both are different for every person.
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But as a cis woman, it doesn't belong to you. So you can't gatekeep it.
1293
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:45,400
Like, hello?
1294
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:54,400
Like, okay, goodbye.
1295
02:03:54,400 --> 02:04:03,400
And then there was this clip from this is my last clip. This is the.
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Do you have anything else you want to play before we get before we wrap this up?
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02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:20,400
No, this comes. This is a black father in a school district in California in Temecula, California.
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02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:31,400
There's no doubt in my mind that those who have transgender and gay family members, friends and coworkers sincerely believe by affirming their lifestyle demonstrates love.
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02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:37,400
Truth without love is a travesty. But love without truth is a lie.
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02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:41,400
Boys cannot be girls. Girls cannot be boys.
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02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:55,400
Men do not get pregnant. An unborn child inside or outside the womb should be attracted instead of being ripped limb by limb from their tiny bodies by planned death hood and the Democrat Party.
1302
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:59,400
Now you're now you're justifying the sexual perversion of young children.
1303
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:12,400
Governor Gavin Newsom, Pharaoh of California, wants to spend $1.6 million on textbooks in Temecula to facilitate the deviant sexual behavior of Harvey Milk. Why?
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02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:22,400
Because children must learn gay pride. If Gavin Newsom cares so much about our children, when was the last time he changed one of our baby's diapers at two o'clock in the morning?
1305
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:30,400
Took one of our sick children to the local hospital? Took our children to local libraries if you do story hour? Never.
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02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:39,400
Because that's not the responsibility of the woke Pharaoh of California. Parental rights come from God, not men.
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02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:47,400
Will Gavin Newsom spend $1.6 million on Judeo-Christian textbooks, an intracable part of American history?
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02:05:47,400 --> 02:06:02,400
Will he create safe spaces for Christian conservatives, students, teachers, administrators, principals that believe in two genders, male and female, and that all lives matter, including ex-transgenders and ex-gays?
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02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:13,400
Of course not, because self-absorbed pathological liars like the Democratic Party are predominantly alethiophobic, haters of objective truths.
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02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:21,400
For over 170 years, the Democratic Party has been a wicked organization, continually rejecting objective truth.
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02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:29,400
Their systemically racist Jim Crow laws kept 4 million Negroes, 99.9% in slavery.
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02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:40,400
Now the California Board of Education is grooming our children for pederasty and pedophilia, maps, or minor-attracted perverts.
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02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:54,400
This, for this reason, God has raised up Governor Gavin Newsom that through our newly elected Temecula School Board, God might show his power and proclaim his word in the world.
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02:06:54,400 --> 02:07:04,400
Pride and arrogance is why I destroyed Pharaoh of Egypt and his army, and if necessary, I will destroy you and your woke army.
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02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:18,400
Pharaoh, Gavin Newsom, I am the Almighty God. Let my people go and leave my kids alone, or you will reap the whirlwind of my wrath, because I always watch over my children.
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02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:22,400
So let it be written, so let it be done.
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02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:33,400
Alethiophobia. Isn't that amazing? Alethiophobia, the fear of hearing the truth.
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02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:43,400
I've never heard that. Yeah, me either. I looked it up. Not to be confused with veritophobia, which is the fear of telling the truth.
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02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:47,400
So there are two different fears. There's the fear of hearing the truth and the fear of telling the truth.
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02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:57,400
I think we have a show title. That's it. That's it. Do we call it Alethiophobia or do we call it truthophobia?
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02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:03,400
I have Alethiophobia with Kennedy.
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02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:11,400
Yeah. Alethiophobia it is.
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02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:22,400
Thank you very much, Jeremy Siegel. Thank you, Mr. Marcus. Many commitments in your life and ill, and you made it through and you sounded terrific.
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02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:28,400
You did not sound sick today. So thank you very much, Jeremy.
1325
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:35,400
And thank you to our producers. I hit my mute button on my sneezing and coughing. Ah, you were very good on the button.
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02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:46,400
Thank you to our producers, to Jeff and to, who else do we have to thank today? It may just be Jeff.
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02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:54,400
Well, we have to thank Al. We do. Anyways. Yes. And he just sent more in that we were waiting for.
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02:08:54,400 --> 02:09:02,400
Did we get anybody to volunteer yet to be an assistant producer for Al? For Al.
1329
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:08,400
Al is going to need to start a podcast so he can have that ask.
1330
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:14,400
Maybe he'll come on the podcast. We got to, he could, he could have a guest spot. Yeah.
1331
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:18,400
Yeah, we should. I don't know if he would want to.
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All right. Well, listen every Tuesday and Friday for the Truthbait Podcast. We come to you twice a week without fail.
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