WEBVTT
00:05.416 --> 00:08.459
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you in the future.
00:30.624 --> 00:51.861
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sad, hot, watching throw the bump, we gon' pick it up, you gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up, you gon' play the foot along, you gon' put it up, you're the funny side, you hit it, put your pants in, don't be looking for the rift, you don't know flag's in, keep the hammer in on, keep the police tight, you the type you wanna win by any means, right, you should look alive, this is trippin' that.
00:53.485 --> 00:56.808
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir, we're going back to another episode of Shopify case.
00:57.168 --> 01:00.191
[SPEAKER_03]: I am the oldest of the Shopify case, moldy mold.
01:00.672 --> 01:04.655
[SPEAKER_03]: Jamal Forest, Drey is in the building.
01:04.715 --> 01:06.357
[SPEAKER_03]: We see all in the chat for what?
01:06.857 --> 01:10.721
[SPEAKER_03]: Ben's, oh, I'm sorry, big, big smoke in the chat.
01:10.821 --> 01:12.682
[SPEAKER_03]: Monty, big fanfare, what's up?
01:12.702 --> 01:14.984
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate everybody's checking in, Dapper.
01:15.725 --> 01:16.506
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like
01:17.605 --> 01:19.587
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me can demonstrate your items out of the way first.
01:19.767 --> 01:31.958
[SPEAKER_03]: I hit that light button at the subscribe, but if you're on the YouTube side of things, definitely appreciate your watching, second-hand live, if you want to become an official member or official driver, you can definitely do so by becoming a member on the channel, showing your support that way.
01:33.039 --> 01:36.662
[SPEAKER_03]: And then on the Twitch and Twitter side, we appreciate your second-hand live.
01:36.682 --> 01:39.744
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate it, Barry, who is joining in.
01:41.026 --> 01:42.967
[SPEAKER_03]: We did have the big Doug and Carmey's,
01:44.756 --> 01:48.059
[SPEAKER_03]: Big Dug and Carmie Pike has, big Dug and George Carmie coming through.
01:48.119 --> 01:49.821
[SPEAKER_03]: George is still coming through.
01:49.881 --> 01:51.903
[SPEAKER_03]: Dug had the, I love Philips who will.
01:52.203 --> 01:56.467
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're gonna try and spend a block to do another a podcast together down the line.
01:56.727 --> 01:58.709
[SPEAKER_03]: But George is gonna be joining us tonight.
01:58.749 --> 02:00.651
[SPEAKER_03]: If you haven't, that's what made with the Pike has.
02:00.671 --> 02:02.693
[SPEAKER_03]: They've been on our show a few times.
02:03.494 --> 02:04.555
[SPEAKER_03]: And they do a great job.
02:05.135 --> 02:11.001
[SPEAKER_03]: doing their thing as well on their side, dropping gems on their pie cast.
02:11.102 --> 02:13.864
[SPEAKER_03]: Audio side hit that follow button hit us with a rating review if you can.
02:14.105 --> 02:16.968
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a sense I can do so and it's free to show you support that away.
02:18.986 --> 02:20.687
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're done with the administrative items.
02:20.707 --> 02:21.547
[SPEAKER_03]: Jay, what's good with you?
02:21.567 --> 02:22.168
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you feeling?
02:22.748 --> 02:23.649
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a good man.
02:23.709 --> 02:27.671
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, another week closer to the season, man.
02:27.771 --> 02:28.391
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait for her.
02:28.912 --> 02:29.872
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just ready for football.
02:29.892 --> 02:32.073
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually ready to get back on the fan duel.
02:32.153 --> 02:35.295
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I haven't been on a fan duel all the time.
02:35.315 --> 02:35.615
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.
02:35.675 --> 02:41.339
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I haven't been able to do any of that all summer, you know, I'm saying so just to get back into swinging things with that.
02:42.219 --> 02:51.549
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, shout out to the do, but also shout out to, you know, underdog, you know, I think that's one thing about this time for me.
02:52.150 --> 03:03.461
[SPEAKER_03]: I do swing a little bit with the MLB and baseball early on sometimes, but most times like that period of like May or June to September.
03:04.422 --> 03:09.188
[SPEAKER_03]: or really like the last week of August because of week zero, like that's where I'm quiet.
03:09.389 --> 03:13.914
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's where I'm like I'm and I'm and a couple dollars here in there to the council build another bank roll.
03:14.255 --> 03:18.941
[SPEAKER_03]: So I can go, uh, so I can go full fleece all the way to the start.
03:19.482 --> 03:20.042
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know,
03:21.069 --> 03:22.612
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and that is you bro.
03:22.772 --> 03:25.035
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't bet it in in the baseball this summer.
03:25.116 --> 03:30.845
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, now one in and I didn't put a dollar Setton to any kind of betting platform website.
03:30.945 --> 03:35.552
[SPEAKER_02]: I was cold turkey all summer so soon as we zero get I think we do our next weekend
03:36.324 --> 03:38.285
[SPEAKER_02]: like, yeah, yeah, yeah, all good song.
03:38.345 --> 03:39.985
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been so good every next week.
03:40.165 --> 03:44.387
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man, I don't even care who claimed, but I'm betting on every game all week, zero.
03:44.827 --> 03:46.968
[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, he been on the NWNBA.
03:46.988 --> 03:58.392
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I say somebody, I went to, I went to Atlanta this week and I'm trying to figure out what day, somebody said they still been, you know, putting plays and bro said he'd been basking overseas, basketball over.
03:59.355 --> 04:00.275
[SPEAKER_02]: See, that's when you got a problem.
04:00.475 --> 04:01.856
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when you got to stop break this.
04:01.876 --> 04:06.057
[SPEAKER_02]: I ain't better look green, baseball, no German basketball, nothing.
04:06.218 --> 04:07.878
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, where does it stop, bro?
04:08.078 --> 04:08.558
[SPEAKER_02]: What's up?
04:09.139 --> 04:10.099
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good boy.
04:10.799 --> 04:11.680
[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't get it, man.
04:11.740 --> 04:12.440
[SPEAKER_03]: I was so good.
04:12.460 --> 04:14.721
[SPEAKER_03]: I was asking questions like, I've never been before.
04:14.761 --> 04:17.482
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, also, how did you do this, bro?
04:17.942 --> 04:19.462
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, who are you looking at?
04:19.582 --> 04:20.323
[SPEAKER_03]: You got a hit, bro.
04:21.288 --> 04:22.589
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I ain't get it, bro.
04:23.149 --> 04:23.770
[SPEAKER_02]: I ain't get it.
04:24.030 --> 04:26.731
[SPEAKER_02]: You ain't go to a let a dream game where you was down there.
04:26.891 --> 04:28.412
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they played a home game or not.
04:28.432 --> 04:31.074
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I probably didn't do.
04:31.554 --> 04:32.875
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I went and do that, man.
04:32.895 --> 04:35.016
[SPEAKER_03]: We was, we was all over the place, bro.
04:35.036 --> 04:37.337
[SPEAKER_03]: But I am, I'm, that's another thing.
04:37.377 --> 04:42.320
[SPEAKER_03]: Side note, that's why we, I, it took me to trip to realize like, we're actually back in action.
04:42.340 --> 04:43.101
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a sex dream.
04:43.521 --> 04:44.962
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, I think it was Monday.
04:45.382 --> 04:48.423
[SPEAKER_03]: Like yo, I'm tripping like I'm seeing her trying to figure out what our schedule is.
04:48.823 --> 04:50.303
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we really back in the mix.
04:50.843 --> 04:52.464
[SPEAKER_03]: So another administrator item.
04:52.484 --> 04:56.945
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we're here Tuesday, Thursdays and back on our post game recap.
04:57.265 --> 05:01.406
[SPEAKER_03]: So after the the Lions game one Saturday will be here.
05:02.106 --> 05:04.086
[SPEAKER_03]: We have another show on Thursday.
05:04.947 --> 05:07.187
[SPEAKER_03]: Yo, yo, yo, one.
05:08.327 --> 05:09.048
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, put it this way.
05:09.088 --> 05:10.888
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a show that's very important.
05:11.907 --> 05:17.011
[SPEAKER_03]: Jim, Sam, for y'all that wasn't y'all a question's answer about what's been going on.
05:18.472 --> 05:25.277
[SPEAKER_03]: Get you, get you drink together, you know, I also, I always said like, I was going, I was going to talk about some things and I was in a good space.
05:27.198 --> 05:33.502
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll never be in a good space, but you know, I feel good enough to talk about what's going on.
05:33.543 --> 05:36.405
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's ask some fun, but not,
05:38.392 --> 05:39.193
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a good show.
05:39.553 --> 05:42.575
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, we're back on our regular, regular flow.
05:42.855 --> 05:44.577
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm happy for it.
05:44.797 --> 05:50.962
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I know everybody's been thinking about, just like, what is a regular schedule here?
05:51.102 --> 05:54.564
[SPEAKER_03]: Over here has been kind of wacky, but now we're back logged in.
05:55.425 --> 05:56.506
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
05:57.366 --> 06:04.492
[SPEAKER_03]: So like I said, George is gonna be joining the shortly, but in the meantime, and I think we've had a few nuggets that came out.
06:05.940 --> 06:13.643
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, one since the game ended, but also we have some things that's happening, like during the game where we, you know, we got some questions.
06:13.663 --> 06:18.484
[SPEAKER_03]: I did see for what, um, mentioned that the 24 draft class.
06:19.745 --> 06:27.127
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, let's, let's kind of get like, what were you thinking about with the game.
06:27.207 --> 06:29.808
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just get a floor and and we can count on just.
06:35.603 --> 06:39.746
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think there's going to be a lot of conversations with the defense, but what do you think about how out of office came out?
06:39.766 --> 06:42.427
[SPEAKER_03]: The the people that's important to the team this year.
06:43.908 --> 06:51.413
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, first of all, it's when it comes to the offense, it was very disappointing to see Mario to go down as early as he did.
06:51.493 --> 06:55.835
[SPEAKER_02]: Like as soon as that happened, I'm like, man, we are not going to be able to evaluate the received this properly.
06:55.855 --> 07:00.178
[SPEAKER_02]: It is me because Sam art becomes right in the game and he looked like.
07:00.538 --> 07:12.969
[SPEAKER_02]: he didn't get one ounce of better in his third year to leave now going on or did this vs third year in the league and he just still looks like Sam Hartman out of Notre Dame like he didn't look like he's developed any bit.
07:13.030 --> 07:20.977
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know last year that was this excuse that he had some shoulder surgery on this throwing shoulder last year and people were trying to say, well, you know, he was recovered from that, but
07:21.297 --> 07:22.318
[SPEAKER_02]: this year ain't no excuse.
07:22.378 --> 07:23.159
[SPEAKER_02]: No surgery.
07:23.299 --> 07:27.382
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just felt like it was unfair to kind of evoke the way some of those receivers.
07:27.442 --> 07:29.463
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, more you, I'm sure you looked at the film.
07:29.483 --> 07:33.106
[SPEAKER_02]: You could talk about, you know, whether some guys were open or not the door to game.
07:33.186 --> 07:34.807
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, that was my play.
07:34.827 --> 07:36.269
[SPEAKER_02]: That was their look was open on it.
07:36.289 --> 07:38.250
[SPEAKER_02]: He just those interception and a clean pocket.
07:38.470 --> 07:40.992
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was kind of hard to see for next standpoint.
07:41.613 --> 07:48.218
[SPEAKER_02]: But what we've said, it was the deceit-a-run game look as good as a data, especially with K-tron Allen and then my surprise,
07:51.260 --> 07:54.984
[SPEAKER_02]: If you would ask me before training camp, you know, who were the top four running back?
07:55.004 --> 07:59.269
[SPEAKER_02]: So who's in that mix out of the name every running back on the roster except Robin, every junior?
07:59.750 --> 08:03.674
[SPEAKER_02]: I came out of that game saying damn, this guy might actually have to make the roster.
08:03.814 --> 08:06.157
[SPEAKER_02]: And as we got to tell you about earlier, it's getting clear.
08:06.657 --> 08:11.559
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, as far as they're at him, this is probably what they're running back because drone 4 is on IR.
08:12.959 --> 08:25.143
[SPEAKER_03]: No word on like the extent of the IR, whether it's short term or long term, but at the same time, you got put on IR immediately after the game is over, even then when acknowledged like he got hurt in the game.
08:25.963 --> 08:27.124
[SPEAKER_03]: But him being put on IR,
08:28.430 --> 08:29.751
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, he's the race downs.
08:29.791 --> 08:31.271
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Craig Reynolds was signed.
08:32.052 --> 08:36.414
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I mean, Craig Reynolds, I actually remember the name, he's been around.
08:36.894 --> 08:43.657
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, that is a person that should be viewed as a campbody, not in a disrespectful way to him.
08:44.478 --> 08:47.279
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you could use this to plateau yourself to enough to act at roster.
08:47.519 --> 08:50.380
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, that's not a shot to him.
08:50.881 --> 08:53.142
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, I think the race does come down to
08:54.042 --> 08:59.882
[SPEAKER_03]: make nickels and Robert Henry fall like that for four run-and-banks by it.
09:01.185 --> 09:14.231
[SPEAKER_03]: And I felt it was crazy that they put forward on the IR just so quickly, because Nick was his already missed, honestly, extensive time, he's missed something, extensive time.
09:14.271 --> 09:15.692
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have to put him on IR.
09:16.172 --> 09:25.836
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm actually curious to see how this is going to unfold, because I know they like, they maybe love me, Nick was like, he was a very effective running back when he got
09:31.202 --> 09:40.514
[SPEAKER_03]: have this opportunity for Henry to start the season off as maybe a specialist and just see what he does.
09:40.594 --> 09:46.221
[SPEAKER_03]: I just play primarily special things and see what he does or like they make just try to stash them on a practice line.
09:46.482 --> 09:47.363
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to over
09:48.579 --> 09:56.948
[SPEAKER_03]: emphasize his important his importance as a rookie like that's kind of the mistake a lot of people fall into when they find these uncover gems.
09:57.469 --> 10:04.957
[SPEAKER_03]: So like they may not be thinking that far down but I think the biggest thing is trying to understand how hurt is Jeremy Mignacles.
10:06.106 --> 10:20.686
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing where you talk about Jerome Ford obviously he's on IR and when you get put on an IR before the season starts before cuts are made you can't come off IR like you're on IR for the rest of the season so Jerome Ford's not an option anymore so now it comes down to
10:21.387 --> 10:23.790
[SPEAKER_02]: the four running on the five running backs for four spots.
10:23.870 --> 10:27.935
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think we can pretty much say three of those are solidified.
10:28.175 --> 10:29.497
[SPEAKER_02]: I think K-Tron out in the safe.
10:29.958 --> 10:32.841
[SPEAKER_02]: But as you mentioned, all as McNickles and it's going to be in Henry now.
10:33.262 --> 10:39.589
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, as I mentioned to you earlier, with McNickles being hurt, I think this is an opportunity for them to say,
10:40.170 --> 10:58.341
[SPEAKER_02]: We can keep him once we make our cuts, we can put him on the short time or term I are, you know, let him rest up here a lot for a couple of weeks and maybe that's the chance the Robin Henry needs and maybe, you know, they'll give him some chances at some point because as we know, I mean, do those don't stay healthy for the whole season, especially to run it back position, it's gonna be nicks and bruises, guys, gonna miss games.
10:59.302 --> 11:02.546
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're going to have to use five of those guys at some point this season.
11:02.766 --> 11:14.939
[SPEAKER_02]: The only question is, would a Robert Henry, if he keeps showing out like this does he make it to the practice club, like do you feel safe enough to make the practice what was a journey, but Nick was man, I don't think he makes a practice what I think he has a place in the league.
11:14.959 --> 11:16.560
[SPEAKER_02]: He's proven that he's proven that here.
11:16.600 --> 11:17.101
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I said.
11:17.141 --> 11:18.603
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they would like to get rid of them.
11:19.123 --> 11:26.165
[SPEAKER_02]: but I do see Robert Henry's path becoming a little bit clearer, especially with Nick Nichols injury, because Nick Nichols may not be ready to start to season.
11:26.185 --> 11:31.306
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Henry can kind of slide up in there and maybe he'll get a chance to prove himself in one way or another.
11:32.046 --> 11:33.447
[SPEAKER_02]: But I love what I saw out of him.
11:33.747 --> 11:37.888
[SPEAKER_02]: So, me, he was kind of like, you know, which would you expect out of a bill on office?
11:37.908 --> 11:42.549
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he has that burst, he has that acceleration, whereas the K-Tron Allen offered a different thing.
11:42.569 --> 11:44.490
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're two different run-in-bass K-Tron Halley.
11:44.510 --> 11:45.730
[SPEAKER_02]: He's shifty, he's slow.
11:46.110 --> 11:51.373
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, he gets those tough yards and he finds those little, you know, holds the squeeze through.
11:51.413 --> 12:00.038
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, he looked good out there to run game as a whole look good, you know, kind of moving on with the rest of the offense, the office and win.
12:01.092 --> 12:03.834
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Brandon Coleman, he looked good, right?
12:04.014 --> 12:07.297
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was like, yeah, I thought he looked pretty nice with the left tackle.
12:07.677 --> 12:09.119
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so he has some really good reps.
12:09.159 --> 12:15.724
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, Coleman, he had some, I can't remember who number nine is, man.
12:15.864 --> 12:16.405
[SPEAKER_03]: I like them.
12:16.445 --> 12:18.466
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he came from Atlanta if I'm not mistaken, too.
12:18.927 --> 12:20.268
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's a number nine.
12:20.868 --> 12:49.342
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think number number nine, I forgot his last name, but it's I'm drawing a blank one right now, but him, he went up against job Robinson, people who are expected to play something this is your time with Miami, but chop gave him the speed rushes and Coleman, like I just like something as reps man, he was under control, he got the foot quickness like cut off the rush path a few times and was able to really get in the paint with job Robinson and like what really stood out.
12:50.282 --> 13:03.892
[SPEAKER_03]: And those are gamers and grandnets, shop is a little bit on the smaller side in the sense, but like, well, really got me with those engagements, this is like seeing his, like, grip strength when he's engaged, like his actual, like, four steady uses his violence.
13:04.473 --> 13:12.238
[SPEAKER_03]: When he does get contact on those wrestlers, but then just being able to, like, actually physically control the engagement.
13:12.279 --> 13:15.301
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't really give up too much ground at all in past protection.
13:16.121 --> 13:17.883
[SPEAKER_03]: He had a couple of good run reps as well, but
13:18.523 --> 13:33.247
[SPEAKER_03]: I think obviously what we all want to know is about protecting Jaden Daniels and I think Brandon Coleman for limited reps he's actually been he actually had a really strong start post
13:36.416 --> 13:48.539
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what you wanted to see from a brand of Coleman to go out there and give out that strong start because at least at the end of the day, you're probably going to be good to left tap, well, I mean, Granny, he's no longer replace Larry Thompson or what he brings.
13:48.559 --> 13:54.521
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you could just be better than your rookie year, brand of Coleman, you know, because he wasn't bad as rookie year.
13:54.541 --> 13:56.681
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he could be better than that, you're fine over there.
13:57.122 --> 14:02.123
[SPEAKER_02]: Then the question comes with a Chris Paul, like, you know, as Chris Paul, going to be a starred caliber left guard this year.
14:02.643 --> 14:05.285
[SPEAKER_02]: How's that sent us by we got I would ready back this week.
14:05.385 --> 14:22.875
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know he's on a snap count on a pitch count right now, but he's working his way there, but we still don't know if I'm a graduate is a starting count of the center at this point, which kind of leads you to Julian good Jones, who I don't think he looks too good when he and whenever he's out there, but then what about the rookie gobin?
14:23.235 --> 14:28.838
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I thought he looked pretty decent out there, Granny, he's going to get second at third string guys, but maybe he's working his way up the
14:32.522 --> 14:42.450
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, go Ben, I go Ben was was good, but and what I thought was really impressive was like his work when he's uncovered.
14:42.490 --> 14:51.657
[SPEAKER_03]: So I get past protection when you snap in, you see that front kind of open up like they they start occupying the guards and attackers like
14:52.397 --> 14:59.721
[SPEAKER_03]: his post snap process and like snaps and he starts looking for people to put on the edge and that's a good thing.
15:00.702 --> 15:14.970
[SPEAKER_03]: But like generally from a black standpoint, where he moves, he moves slow out there and and and I don't know just how, um, ready, he would be for like starting quality snaps.
15:15.410 --> 15:18.151
[SPEAKER_03]: Now again, that's jumping in gun because I think he is better than
15:21.394 --> 15:26.638
[SPEAKER_03]: I would definitely have him as your back of as opposed to like, even pushing for starting ribs.
15:27.138 --> 15:29.299
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think it's interesting to try to put him at guard.
15:30.520 --> 15:31.941
[SPEAKER_03]: And just testing them out there.
15:32.762 --> 15:33.982
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that's an issue at all.
15:34.042 --> 15:38.365
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more so think it's like actually even seeing like where his flexibility lies, right?
15:39.746 --> 15:40.186
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah.
15:41.307 --> 15:55.392
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's like a given take, it's like, I wonder how much he can put on his plate life from being able to execute mentally, but also like having to have legic ability to really get an opinion and like meet your marks.
15:55.692 --> 16:01.394
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying he can't, but like that's just something I know this and I would like to follow him through us at his free season.
16:02.314 --> 16:10.582
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me ask you this while we're on a subject off as a lab where you surprise the Josh Connolly didn't play like they said them like, you know, he didn't need the game like where you surprised about it.
16:10.862 --> 16:14.586
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, well, I'm going to be a full transparent transparency.
16:14.606 --> 16:15.727
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I know I went to Atlanta.
16:16.147 --> 16:24.235
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so before I, I did watch the game, but I was very much already on my 13th club of alcohol.
16:24.755 --> 16:27.518
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I know what kind of all that was that night.
16:29.293 --> 16:46.703
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's funny because when I tweeted initially Nicky with Javala, she and it's nothing wrong, she just put out because she said it's like her observations of when the veterans are practicing on the field, those are indication of who's not playing so initially Josh currently wasn't out there in the current terms of the list that she named.
16:47.978 --> 16:53.823
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so like I thought that he was playing until your question, I am surprised that he didn't blame.
16:54.724 --> 17:01.309
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I think it's interesting to like, if you have Brandon Coleman out there, uh, Chris Paul.
17:03.371 --> 17:06.553
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't have Sam Crosby or the right side.
17:06.573 --> 17:16.079
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically the right side wasn't there, but I do think at the very least, you gotta get some work I did for them.
17:16.499 --> 17:25.845
[SPEAKER_03]: And also based the question for like, what kind of move around with the office a little bit more, but if that's the question about just generally
17:27.148 --> 17:36.756
[SPEAKER_03]: playing certain people, because the conversation about Jaden Danes has come up and like I think about how Cincinnati does things traditionally with Joe Burrow.
17:37.216 --> 17:39.738
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Joe Burrow is on the field in preseason.
17:39.878 --> 17:41.599
[SPEAKER_03]: Jamar Chase is on the field in preseason.
17:41.619 --> 17:43.101
[SPEAKER_03]: See Higgins is on the field in preseason.
17:44.061 --> 17:45.542
[SPEAKER_03]: Pat my home's last year.
17:45.562 --> 17:48.763
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he played in the third preseason game for like two two quarters.
17:48.883 --> 17:49.863
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe two and a half quarters.
17:50.303 --> 17:58.866
[SPEAKER_03]: If I'm not mistaken, and if it wasn't that third game, I know he played in the third game, but if it wasn't that third game, he played like two and a half three quarters in the second game.
17:59.166 --> 18:01.287
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they get extensive amount of time.
18:02.307 --> 18:10.790
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the joint practices are good, but like that break between third preseason game the week one.
18:11.748 --> 18:15.189
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll put them people on the field by, and, and, and, and.
18:16.848 --> 18:23.071
[SPEAKER_03]: that being scared to injury thing like that made me from a fan base perspective, but at the end of the day, work is working.
18:23.091 --> 18:24.772
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the risk that comes with this job.
18:24.852 --> 18:27.853
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, I will never ever say you shouldn't keep nobody off the field.
18:27.873 --> 18:32.176
[SPEAKER_03]: If you believe in getting in work, like if you think, if you think that's the case, I will never say that.
18:32.436 --> 18:33.876
[SPEAKER_03]: Would I be upset if somebody gets hurt?
18:34.277 --> 18:36.137
[SPEAKER_03]: Drey, yes, I will be upset.
18:36.418 --> 18:40.420
[SPEAKER_03]: I will be upset and okay, if you keep them in there longer than they should, that's one thing.
18:40.920 --> 18:44.982
[SPEAKER_03]: But like I would never, I would never get upset if somebody gets hurt playing football.
18:45.502 --> 18:49.564
[SPEAKER_03]: like actually at a person generally speaking.
18:49.604 --> 19:03.792
[SPEAKER_03]: So get him out there and I think to Josh Connelly's point, he should have been out there and I don't doubt that they 100% will probably, they will 100% will play him against Detroit.
19:04.827 --> 19:10.028
[SPEAKER_02]: As you heard, that's why I act small because I'm like, well, it actually surprised me.
19:10.088 --> 19:18.190
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I started a question in Artie at the point with Josh Connelly where they're really comfortable with what they're seeing out of him that he doesn't need to work.
19:18.290 --> 19:25.511
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a good thing if so, but at the same time, I feel like Josh Connelly has improved anything in the league yet as far as like where he stands.
19:25.571 --> 19:34.333
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think he got better as the year one all last year, but I don't think he's so litified himself as, you know, some kind of upper echelon right tackle in his league or anything.
19:34.833 --> 19:36.374
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're hoping to see out of him.
19:36.755 --> 19:38.316
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, they're seeing it again.
19:38.456 --> 19:39.477
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't been in training camp.
19:39.557 --> 19:44.060
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a paid a lot of attention to the office of a lot in this all season, but if they're seeing it, that's cool.
19:44.080 --> 19:48.223
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, you still, he's at a age where he can use that type of work.
19:48.323 --> 19:53.728
[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully he is out there against Detroit this week, along with Jaden Daniels and a lot of other players.
19:53.748 --> 19:57.050
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm in the boat that I do want to see them go out there and get the work.
19:57.150 --> 19:58.011
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I get it.
19:58.491 --> 19:59.532
[SPEAKER_02]: foot of Miami game.
19:59.552 --> 20:00.753
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a joint practice.
20:00.793 --> 20:04.135
[SPEAKER_02]: Those guys got a lot of reps against a different team in practice.
20:04.155 --> 20:05.035
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to see that.
20:05.316 --> 20:07.617
[SPEAKER_02]: But this week against Detroit, there's no joint practice.
20:08.318 --> 20:13.901
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a good opportunity if you only want to play those starters or some of those starters for one preseason game this season.
20:14.281 --> 20:20.145
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is especially a Detroit's going to go out there and play those guys because as we know with Detroit, that's a playoff caliber roster.
20:20.205 --> 20:23.808
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they just didn't have a good year last year, but that's still a playoff caliber roster.
20:24.108 --> 20:25.008
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they're going to play to
20:26.109 --> 20:32.651
[SPEAKER_02]: the go out there and get out and start us some work and get those guys and see how you kind of measure enough against one of the conferences best team.
20:32.691 --> 20:41.053
[SPEAKER_02]: So I hope Jayden's out there, even if it's full of series two series, whatever, and that's the last bit of work he gets for the preseason, but I do think they need that work.
20:41.333 --> 20:47.294
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like I just remember growing up watching preseason back in a day where it was approach the way I'd differently.
20:47.414 --> 20:47.994
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I get it.
20:48.034 --> 20:52.955
[SPEAKER_02]: We in a different place, we had a different time, you know, you want to focus on, you know, keep me at play as healthy
20:55.936 --> 21:00.738
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they even like you said with a, my homes and you read, I think my homes plays them.
21:00.758 --> 21:03.879
[SPEAKER_02]: They're almost every preseason game, you know, year and a year.
21:03.980 --> 21:07.901
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't completely gain one this year, but pretty sure he'll be out there this week.
21:08.181 --> 21:15.465
[SPEAKER_02]: But Andy reading them, they believe a plan those guys and most of the great coaches that I knew when I was growing up, they believe the plan they guys are preseason.
21:15.485 --> 21:16.085
[SPEAKER_03]: Another check.
21:16.685 --> 21:18.386
[SPEAKER_03]: Worked the shit avatar.
21:18.446 --> 21:19.387
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and crazy.
21:19.427 --> 21:19.707
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:20.247 --> 21:20.808
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Gibbs.
21:20.848 --> 21:22.168
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe gives you to do it on time.
21:22.188 --> 21:24.110
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Gibbs played his guys in preseason.
21:24.170 --> 21:26.771
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, you can't be too scared of injuries.
21:27.211 --> 21:29.873
[SPEAKER_02]: Get those guys so work because you can get injured in any time.
21:29.893 --> 21:30.854
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get injured in practice.
21:30.874 --> 21:32.635
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get injured regular season, whatever.
21:32.675 --> 21:35.136
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's going to happen, it's going to happen, but you can't cope scared.
21:35.516 --> 21:36.457
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't place gear.
21:36.517 --> 21:44.922
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think it would be a good opportunity to get somebody to start us on work, especially if this is going to be the last bit of work they get like real serious work for a rest of preseason.
21:45.622 --> 21:47.150
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, let's get set aside, it is.
21:47.814 --> 21:48.055
[SPEAKER_03]: Um...
21:49.293 --> 21:57.376
[SPEAKER_03]: Ben, Senate, Carlson, Yankoff, I'll start with the good, Ben, Senate really active in the run game.
21:58.197 --> 22:08.161
[SPEAKER_03]: I like like how he's angling himself in the run game and just setting these seals on the edge, but also getting busy on the second level too.
22:08.281 --> 22:16.864
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are some things that's impressive with with Ben just like having the IQ from a post snap standpoint of just knowing where he needs to be.
22:19.145 --> 22:47.874
[SPEAKER_03]: Even as in the past game, like he knows he knows where he has to be and I think what really helps him And you seen it in that first game is is just seeing how that boot action Like what's been popular in terms of this all season and even in training camp is them saying the quarterbacks back towards the defense like it's Standard Like football and West Coast games and just like a lot of boot action all fences and things like that who emphasize that type of play action
22:48.514 --> 23:05.114
[SPEAKER_03]: But like been sitting in the past game is going to thrive when he can slip past the defense when he get past that second level or when he can get underneath that first level when the eye can't do it's taking over the defense and being something where the run game is respected.
23:05.675 --> 23:08.158
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also think yank off.
23:09.372 --> 23:17.438
[SPEAKER_03]: is a little bit more athletic and how he runs his routes, how he gets to his marks.
23:18.218 --> 23:21.881
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think, Yanko, I'm not super impressed with him in the run game.
23:21.921 --> 23:23.382
[SPEAKER_03]: He is active in willing.
23:23.802 --> 23:25.203
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not a joy to read out there.
23:25.703 --> 23:30.627
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he gets busy in the run game, but he's not super impressive in that standpoint.
23:31.207 --> 23:32.208
[SPEAKER_03]: I would like to see more.
23:33.467 --> 23:40.294
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like he's bad, but like where he shines, it's how he runs his routes and how he gets to his marks.
23:40.314 --> 23:41.315
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not super athletic.
23:41.355 --> 23:55.129
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's not super nuanced in terms of his route details and how he sets up his routes and how he wins in that nature, but from a comparison standpoint, that's where I think there's a distinction and he uses the distinction between Ben and Cowson.
23:57.467 --> 24:06.111
[SPEAKER_03]: But like Ben still, if there's no play action like Ben is still struggling to separate, like, it's just not what he does, bro.
24:06.191 --> 24:11.653
[SPEAKER_03]: And and even after the catch, like, I don't see somebody that can really create.
24:12.485 --> 24:15.387
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he made break a taco with two, I wrong with that.
24:15.568 --> 24:25.135
[SPEAKER_03]: But I just don't see it in that the only reason why that's super important to me, even moving forward is just like knowing what you've got in the second round.
24:25.155 --> 24:31.640
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's gonna be a large conversation this year, Brad, Mike Sanversdale, Johnny Newton, Ben Sineat.
24:32.860 --> 24:38.406
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I'm missing somebody, but 99 draft plans, but yeah, that's on.
24:38.426 --> 24:39.507
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, oh, my God.
24:39.527 --> 24:39.928
[SPEAKER_03]: Tram.
24:39.948 --> 24:40.168
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
24:40.468 --> 24:42.270
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's going to be a large conversation.
24:42.330 --> 24:42.791
[SPEAKER_03]: It's your bread.
24:42.811 --> 24:43.511
[SPEAKER_03]: Tram was just heard.
24:44.477 --> 24:45.918
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, any muscle concern now.
24:46.398 --> 24:59.046
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember before we worked as a child, but I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know because, you know, I did say that, but we was also talking about another injury, not that, not the ankle, that's true, so am I concerned?
24:59.326 --> 25:01.347
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but why am I concerned?
25:01.647 --> 25:03.028
[SPEAKER_03]: It's more, like, can't say healthy.
25:03.268 --> 25:04.849
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's why I'm concerned.
25:05.370 --> 25:10.993
[SPEAKER_03]: So, but to that point, um, before we get Georgian, yeah, like, what do you think about the, the tight answer, man?
25:11.033 --> 25:12.234
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm, I'm just a little
25:13.303 --> 25:14.104
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm interested here.
25:14.664 --> 25:21.828
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I look at the tight end position almost kind of how we talk about the running back position and where we got a bunch of different guys that do different things.
25:21.868 --> 25:29.193
[SPEAKER_02]: They I think they have different roles and I think what you see would have been Senate down as you're seeing him start to carve out a role in the office now.
25:29.313 --> 25:31.254
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's ever going to be a vertical threat.
25:31.694 --> 25:46.481
[SPEAKER_02]: and this lead, but I always say what's a Ben Senate, I mean, you got to find kind of that H-back role form, you know, that kind of Chris Kooley role form, what he can sometimes, you know, run routes out of the back field and he can get the block in, you know, as a lead block or sometimes for a running back.
25:46.841 --> 25:52.644
[SPEAKER_02]: And in a couple of times, he's going to catch the ball and he's going to be able to make a play with the ball, but I don't think you'll ever see a vertical threat.
25:52.684 --> 25:57.006
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you'll ever see a guy that's going to be a threat as far as like we got a game plan
26:00.728 --> 26:04.711
[SPEAKER_02]: But you have other tyrants that do that chiever comfortable.
26:04.791 --> 26:06.131
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's going to be a yet guy.
26:06.732 --> 26:11.555
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, closing ankle, as you mentioned, he's kind of the inverse of Ben Senate.
26:11.595 --> 26:13.036
[SPEAKER_02]: He's more of the receiving threat.
26:13.056 --> 26:16.498
[SPEAKER_02]: He's more the vertical threat like he's the route runner of the tyrant group.
26:17.198 --> 26:21.161
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and didn't they decide do we have, um, I got cash here.
26:22.182 --> 26:27.906
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Kasia, yeah, he gets some burn, but I mean, I'm not sure, you know, if he's, you know, going to make the roster, I don't know how many tight ends.
26:28.246 --> 26:29.907
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, John, that's who I'm missing John.
26:30.147 --> 26:31.808
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, obviously he's been hurt.
26:32.188 --> 26:35.270
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's been hurt, but he's back, but John Bates is your black and tight.
26:35.290 --> 26:37.792
[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the best black and tight ends in the league that is.
26:37.852 --> 26:39.953
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I look at the tight end room.
26:40.454 --> 26:47.118
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, again, Vincent may never live up to that second round pick or at least the value of what you consider the second round pick, but if he.
26:47.158 --> 26:51.762
[SPEAKER_02]: can carve out a role in a league, you know, or at least a role in his team.
26:51.922 --> 27:04.133
[SPEAKER_02]: Even with, you know, not to say a role as John Bates, but if he can have a similar level of impact that John Bates has on the team, that's gonna be worth it to us because he is value, but you're gonna wanna keep that type of play around.
27:04.593 --> 27:09.177
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, it just adds to the overall room with a lot of different guys, don't know a lot of different things.
27:09.237 --> 27:10.979
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, it's just like they're running back to them.
27:10.999 --> 27:12.320
[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think there's potential.
27:12.740 --> 27:13.540
[SPEAKER_02]: in a tight air room.
27:13.580 --> 27:16.322
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it may be a lot better than some of us expected at the beat.
27:16.482 --> 27:20.883
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we kind of just talked about Chica Concule all all season, like that's the guy we're excited about.
27:21.224 --> 27:25.865
[SPEAKER_02]: But you have more talent in their room that can do different things, all of them kind of compliment each other.
27:25.885 --> 27:29.407
[SPEAKER_02]: So let me interesting to see how those roles are established, don't it season?
27:29.427 --> 27:33.529
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how many tight ins does David Blau use when he's game planning?
27:33.549 --> 27:35.670
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I mean, are we going to see a lot of heavy personnel?
27:36.110 --> 27:38.571
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, in game days, that's going to be really interesting to me.
27:38.591 --> 27:41.512
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think there's talent there to do different things with those guys.
27:43.108 --> 27:45.148
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, it's also one of the reasons.
27:45.209 --> 27:46.649
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's keep emphasizing this.
27:46.709 --> 27:50.290
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this tight end row no matter how you feel about any of them.
27:51.090 --> 28:03.653
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I feel the way I feel, but no matter how you feel about any of them, uh, to somewhat Jay Tissie's point, uh, this offense will be able to scheme these tight ends up not granted.
28:04.593 --> 28:06.833
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we want to have a conversation about Ben.
28:07.774 --> 28:08.354
[SPEAKER_03]: We can do that.
28:08.854 --> 28:09.034
[SPEAKER_03]: But
28:10.338 --> 28:12.739
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not, I don't think you're wrong.
28:12.799 --> 28:14.739
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Titans do get skinned open a lot.
28:15.440 --> 28:30.264
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think this offense, if you can bring in the right athletes, a combo of the right athletes, but also like utility guys, you know, as long as they can play both ways, run it back and I was running back.
28:30.284 --> 28:32.165
[SPEAKER_03]: Excuse me, run game and receive a game.
28:32.605 --> 28:37.486
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can really get some, some really some real work done from the Titans standpoint.
28:39.883 --> 28:41.143
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's continue this conversation.
28:43.584 --> 28:45.044
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get back to the offense in a second.
28:45.124 --> 28:54.866
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get to the defense and continue this conversation here with George Carme and like I said, Doug can join us a day.
28:55.386 --> 28:58.486
[SPEAKER_03]: But we still got half of the big Doug and George Carme show man.
28:58.566 --> 28:59.687
[SPEAKER_03]: George, you know, boss man, a long time.
28:59.707 --> 29:07.268
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
29:07.697 --> 29:11.363
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you feel if it's two people in danger?
29:11.403 --> 29:12.885
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I gotta hold it down, man.
29:13.186 --> 29:13.907
[SPEAKER_03]: It's there, man.
29:14.408 --> 29:17.713
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I think, when we think about,
29:21.706 --> 29:42.756
[SPEAKER_03]: The defense, I don't know you've been backstage for a conversation and you've got to feel, we don't have to feel a Georgian, but when you think about the defense George and how things have unfolded one through training camp, but also just like what you were able to see from some of the some of the important guys and the preseason game like is it
29:44.822 --> 29:58.535
[SPEAKER_03]: plausible to feel concerned about anybody in particular, or are you more so focused on like the body of work as preseason and training camp, like, comes along.
29:59.590 --> 30:00.851
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a deeper conversation.
30:00.871 --> 30:01.792
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys were on top of it.
30:01.812 --> 30:03.413
[SPEAKER_00]: I walked in and heard a great conversation.
30:03.433 --> 30:06.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Washington, I think the scheming is going to be a lot better.
30:06.515 --> 30:10.478
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be more dictating more of a hammer as opposed to the nail that we salvage it with.
30:10.498 --> 30:20.166
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you would have that cover three defense, whereas more reactive, more observant kind of reacting to what the offense was doing, with Drought Day Jones going to be more attacking than you get more of a field.
30:20.886 --> 30:25.529
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are some concerns with some people, but not with other people, not tell you why in a second, right?
30:25.569 --> 30:29.672
[SPEAKER_00]: So, we're talking about trade, I think, I'll just get you all to say this.
30:30.032 --> 30:31.193
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm concerned about trade.
30:31.253 --> 30:32.714
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he had that injury.
30:32.974 --> 30:35.335
[SPEAKER_00]: He's only practiced for one hour, all preseason.
30:35.375 --> 30:36.116
[SPEAKER_00]: It has one hour.
30:36.296 --> 30:37.117
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one hour.
30:37.157 --> 30:39.518
[SPEAKER_00]: He came up with a world practice for one hour and left.
30:39.778 --> 30:40.319
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
30:40.339 --> 30:41.539
[SPEAKER_00]: He has an entire all season.
30:41.860 --> 30:43.721
[SPEAKER_00]: He only played 10 games last year.
30:44.101 --> 30:45.782
[SPEAKER_00]: If people are already, people love him.
30:45.802 --> 30:46.703
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he has that swag.
30:46.723 --> 30:47.343
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a good guy.
30:47.383 --> 30:48.044
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a good guy.
30:48.744 --> 30:50.125
[SPEAKER_00]: have a chance about all of them.
30:50.145 --> 30:53.308
[SPEAKER_00]: So people like his CV one off the break, but they already think he's going to be a CV one.
30:53.768 --> 30:55.990
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact of the matter is he played 10 games last year.
30:56.010 --> 30:59.433
[SPEAKER_00]: The first couple games weren't even that strong, but he started to get hot as a year or not.
30:59.994 --> 31:00.474
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like him.
31:00.514 --> 31:01.315
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a good player.
31:01.335 --> 31:04.878
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has potential, but he has to prove we haven't seen anything at the next level yet.
31:05.158 --> 31:07.420
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I don't know where he's going to go where he's going to be.
31:07.820 --> 31:13.502
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to benefit from you practice, and you need to get some synergy in that corner bathroom.
31:13.522 --> 31:18.584
[SPEAKER_00]: We had on Thor and I saw a couple of weeks ago that I don't know, he's a Minnesota Vikings insider.
31:18.944 --> 31:28.027
[SPEAKER_00]: He was telling us, he was a girl, the Brian Flora as he fends his awesome, it's aggressive, it's attacking, it's very, you know, it's going to set the tone, but you guys are telling us, he was a girl.
31:28.407 --> 31:29.869
[SPEAKER_00]: to expect a learning curve.
31:29.929 --> 31:33.452
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something that you do either hit it off the first week in a very, very strong.
31:33.492 --> 31:35.494
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something that, like, get the half communication.
31:35.514 --> 31:37.416
[SPEAKER_00]: There's anything some breakdowns can be really aggressive.
31:37.697 --> 31:39.499
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you don't have that, there's a flaw in it.
31:39.619 --> 31:42.281
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think aim at someone a little bit concerned about him.
31:42.842 --> 31:45.485
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the sunny styles hype about him being bad.
31:45.665 --> 31:46.626
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was overblown.
31:46.706 --> 31:48.868
[SPEAKER_00]: I would do all take a lovely year about what you guys think.
31:48.888 --> 31:49.229
[SPEAKER_00]: But like,
31:49.609 --> 31:54.836
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he played 13 plays, first game, green dot, you know, he's trying to get simply to the NFL game.
31:55.257 --> 31:56.018
[SPEAKER_00]: He did look tentative.
31:56.058 --> 31:57.259
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could have been more downhill.
31:57.279 --> 31:58.181
[SPEAKER_00]: Could have been more aggressive.
31:58.201 --> 31:58.862
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.
31:59.382 --> 32:00.844
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's who he is right now.
32:00.884 --> 32:06.292
[SPEAKER_00]: For those of you who have watched the tape, he was more of a safety as more of a past coverage lineback and isn't it coming to lead?
32:06.672 --> 32:10.795
[SPEAKER_00]: doing that very, very well, that run attack that take a lot of 300 pound offense alignment.
32:11.075 --> 32:12.176
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, it's the girl.
32:12.196 --> 32:13.256
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to that.
32:13.296 --> 32:15.818
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you smart enough is a good enough athlete do well.
32:15.838 --> 32:17.719
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to give him some grace on that.
32:18.360 --> 32:21.202
[SPEAKER_00]: And the last thing I'll say I'll throw back to y'all is the defense align.
32:21.342 --> 32:22.683
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the defense align was concerning.
32:23.203 --> 32:25.225
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they had shot Tuddle in there, they had Newton in there.
32:25.665 --> 32:27.027
[SPEAKER_00]: I want Newton to be something.
32:27.047 --> 32:34.514
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we obviously, you know, coming to that draft in 2024, you're supposed to be a first round pick and he fell in the second round, but, you know, we're not seeing that, right?
32:34.534 --> 32:38.818
[SPEAKER_00]: He's under size, a little bit short, he's more of a fast pressure, and they're this carving us up.
32:39.658 --> 32:41.921
[SPEAKER_00]: Granted, the dolphins had Devon HN out there.
32:41.941 --> 32:43.402
[SPEAKER_00]: They had a whole certain offense on there.
32:43.683 --> 32:46.225
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were basically putting this huge hole.
32:47.006 --> 32:48.848
[SPEAKER_00]: My big concern is Tim Settle.
32:48.888 --> 32:50.030
[SPEAKER_00]: He was supposed to be our nos tackle.
32:50.070 --> 32:53.934
[SPEAKER_00]: He's supposed to be that big plug in the middle, but he's a little bit injured now, too.
32:53.994 --> 32:54.194
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
32:54.685 --> 32:55.986
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going to happen with our D-Line?
32:56.066 --> 32:57.427
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of concerned about that.
32:57.527 --> 32:59.708
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's magic we have a month ago.
32:59.728 --> 33:00.808
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we have a month of the game stars.
33:00.828 --> 33:02.829
[SPEAKER_00]: But what are you all saying?
33:03.010 --> 33:07.452
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's start with Johnny and named get back to Sunny.
33:08.032 --> 33:09.193
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, let's work our way back.
33:09.373 --> 33:10.574
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it.
33:11.674 --> 33:16.797
[SPEAKER_03]: If you can't anchor as an interior defense alarming, you are hooked.
33:17.317 --> 33:17.577
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:17.758 --> 33:18.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Light.
33:19.019 --> 33:24.623
[SPEAKER_03]: You already limit yourself because you are expected to come in as a as a pass for a specialist at some point.
33:24.663 --> 33:31.268
[SPEAKER_03]: If you ain't if you're not getting no pressures and penetrating the pocket as a pass rusher, then we can't put you all around down.
33:31.328 --> 33:33.009
[SPEAKER_03]: We can't put you on first and second downs.
33:33.310 --> 33:37.973
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, unless you unless we up 20, we can we can use you any that we want.
33:38.413 --> 33:46.820
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I think what what really hurts him is is the fact that he hasn't been able to really find that technique that works for him.
33:49.173 --> 34:04.478
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, man, like, that's, that's just something where even when I think about the draft, he slid to the second round, people thought that this was a steal because I obviously performed at college, but then you think about, like,
34:05.642 --> 34:31.495
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it the, was it the foot injury that really close in the first year or did or did he did people actually see or project him and the pro level as somebody who couldn't do certain things and I don't know the answer I'm just saying like, you know, we people in the moment think one thing and rationalize it that way, but they don't think about like, what about the other evaluators out there that didn't take him.
34:31.862 --> 34:55.628
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's pretty point and and I don't know what it is with Johnny it like I got to see something like I wasn't even I put out a film session my my track my my stamp is out there I put out a film session on his on his his three set game against Dallas last year That didn't move me from how I thought about he's played so far And you're gonna go back and look at that if you're all the new to the channel, but I have no idea George
34:57.434 --> 35:04.641
[SPEAKER_03]: My bottom line is if you can't anchor in the right game and take one of these double teams, like you're going to be in trouble, especially as an interior defense line.
35:05.123 --> 35:05.803
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me throw one thing.
35:05.823 --> 35:06.223
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
35:06.243 --> 35:06.543
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
35:06.563 --> 35:07.463
[SPEAKER_00]: Jay wants to get on this, too.
35:08.324 --> 35:09.604
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to the game.
35:09.624 --> 35:13.004
[SPEAKER_00]: I was at the Delphine's game, drove back home, listen to Doc Walker and Linnell on the way home.
35:13.024 --> 35:14.045
[SPEAKER_00]: And Linnell brought up a good point.
35:14.065 --> 35:21.146
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, and kind of what you're saying, Jim, I was that basically, as a defensive lineman, your number one priority is to stop the run.
35:21.166 --> 35:22.846
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a past brush, that's more of a bonus.
35:22.866 --> 35:30.667
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are those elite at the next level player, like even Ron Rivera, you know, for all the criticism we give him, his saying was, you stopped the run on the way to the past.
35:34.848 --> 35:41.535
[SPEAKER_00]: And even as a little later, Pewey, you know, your defensive line, and you called the holes, and especially in a three, four that we have right now, he should be stopped on the market.
35:41.556 --> 35:43.678
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Johnny Newton's a fit for what we're trying to do.
35:43.738 --> 35:45.980
[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, I mean, I'm rooting for him, but that's the thing.
35:46.020 --> 35:48.263
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we don't just know, you're probably a great point.
35:48.343 --> 35:51.006
[SPEAKER_00]: Was he, did he get a poor e-bout of fall in the second round?
35:51.046 --> 35:52.908
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it just that planar, especially I just, we don't know.
35:54.005 --> 36:05.683
[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, this is Adam Pudus, most disappointing pick to this point because what a Johnny Newton at this point in time, I think you start to expect to see that grow fight of him or that leap out of him.
36:06.044 --> 36:09.189
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't even know if he has the pathway to do that right now, because I mean.
36:09.869 --> 36:13.131
[SPEAKER_02]: When Tim settled gets back, he's going to be pretty much the man in the middle.
36:13.571 --> 36:15.412
[SPEAKER_02]: The Ronald Payne's going to have a roll in there.
36:15.513 --> 36:17.574
[SPEAKER_02]: A man of you, he's going to have a roll in there.
36:18.114 --> 36:25.238
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're kind of looking at Newton as a rotation player at this point in this career, but is he going to be an impactful rotation player?
36:25.278 --> 36:27.900
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going to have a chance to live up to that second round pick?
36:28.280 --> 36:31.041
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the part I worry about with a Newton kind of living up to that.
36:31.101 --> 36:33.583
[SPEAKER_02]: The draft stat is, and it's disappointing because
36:34.063 --> 36:44.391
[SPEAKER_02]: We had three second round draft picks in the 20th year draft and he was the highest of all little second round picks and he was kind of so close as you all mentioned earlier that he could have been a first round pick.
36:44.431 --> 36:46.052
[SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to be a first round pick.
36:46.092 --> 36:47.973
[SPEAKER_02]: He slid to where he was.
36:48.013 --> 36:49.995
[SPEAKER_02]: So we kind of had higher expectations for him.
36:50.135 --> 36:50.795
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you get it.
36:50.835 --> 36:56.940
[SPEAKER_02]: He had the foot injuries, you know, when he came at two foot injury on both feet, you know, I mean, and he didn't really have an all season and
36:58.781 --> 37:06.203
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, there hasn't been growth in that's been a disciplined part, because what you've seen at Illinois was a disruptive player.
37:06.323 --> 37:08.684
[SPEAKER_02]: You see that guy that was able to get after the quarterback.
37:08.704 --> 37:12.465
[SPEAKER_02]: He was able to, I mean, then he went defensive player to here in the big tenet, you know?
37:12.525 --> 37:14.666
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was something like that up there in the big tenet.
37:14.726 --> 37:17.387
[SPEAKER_02]: He was one of the best players in the big tenet year.
37:17.567 --> 37:18.367
[SPEAKER_02]: That a great defense player too.
37:18.387 --> 37:20.028
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:20.108 --> 37:24.169
[SPEAKER_02]: Claw Martin and, well, during taking his Martin and, yeah, love he Smith, they played under
37:28.190 --> 37:31.234
[SPEAKER_02]: to this point, but you just haven't seen the growth for the leap.
37:31.294 --> 37:32.296
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's concerning to me.
37:32.316 --> 37:44.071
[SPEAKER_02]: And like I said to this point, that's probably Adam Peter's biggest disappointment, because at least with the other players, like even when we're talking about events in it, like Vincent, it has a pathway, I think right now, to have some kind of impact.
37:44.651 --> 37:48.093
[SPEAKER_02]: Mikey San Francisco is going to have that pathway because he's going to get a lot of opportunities.
37:48.113 --> 37:56.517
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in that rotation of cornerbacks, trade aim was whenever he comes back, he's going to be, if he can say help, he's going to be his pathway to be impactful.
37:56.837 --> 38:03.220
[SPEAKER_02]: But Johnny Newton, I just don't see the pathway and I also haven't seen evidence that he's ready to make an impact on the scene.
38:03.845 --> 38:05.006
[SPEAKER_00]: after it was open out real quick.
38:05.026 --> 38:10.531
[SPEAKER_00]: So two things, with that, I think the one that is the point with Johnny Newton is an opportunity to call us right.
38:10.551 --> 38:13.173
[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys remember, we traded back to accumulate more pits.
38:13.413 --> 38:16.936
[SPEAKER_00]: That could have been Cooper Degene and people were like, you know, we gave them to the Eagles.
38:16.956 --> 38:18.137
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to stand out here.
38:18.157 --> 38:19.839
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, say what you want about him.
38:19.859 --> 38:21.300
[SPEAKER_00]: He has a great defense of front and front of him.
38:21.340 --> 38:22.781
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why he's doing really well in Philadelphia.
38:22.801 --> 38:23.422
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's a great player.
38:23.442 --> 38:24.603
[SPEAKER_00]: He could have potentially had him.
38:25.243 --> 38:26.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I also posed a question on Twitter.
38:26.965 --> 38:27.165
[SPEAKER_00]: I love
38:29.967 --> 38:32.090
[SPEAKER_03]: Four months a person before before you get there.
38:32.390 --> 38:44.844
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget you don't forget your thought before you get there though Yeah, Washington also passed up on to laundry sweat Yeah, and I keep I keep talking about his like y'all wanted somebody who was a dog in the ring game
38:46.026 --> 38:51.534
[SPEAKER_03]: and or against the runners use me and and look at each other's and it's not a disrespect because he was really good in college.
38:51.574 --> 38:55.820
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more so saying like the guy that you really wanted was there you in the face.
38:55.840 --> 38:56.581
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so you want it.
38:57.122 --> 38:59.706
[SPEAKER_03]: You still got the same problem as you had two years three years ago.
39:01.947 --> 39:20.552
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my question was, would you trade Johnny Newton like I put that on Twitter on if you want to your thoughts on that like he's going to his third year like you know he has potential with a new adult defense coordinator he might have a little bit of value would you trade him for offensive line depth this kind of because we are concerned about that with our you know a left guard for
39:26.063 --> 39:26.543
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't.
39:26.964 --> 39:29.906
[SPEAKER_03]: I also think you brought up a good point and I'm mad.
39:29.926 --> 39:32.308
[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot about it, but some settles hurt.
39:32.348 --> 39:48.441
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, granted, they don't play the exact same position, but if Javankel all saying that everybody's moving all across the defensive line, you've got to be mindful that Johnny Newton is healthy right now, like he's playing and you want to make sure that you prioritize people like that who's available from a depth standpoint.
39:49.682 --> 40:03.717
[SPEAKER_03]: And also like you did bring a good point about office line depth, but I wouldn't treat him for office line depth, but I just look for cut date and who's going to be around and take my chances there if I got to keep if I got to build up the depth from the office of my standpoint, I wouldn't treat Johnny.
40:04.880 --> 40:08.301
[SPEAKER_02]: I would, I mean, I would entertain it if it's some kind of value there.
40:08.321 --> 40:18.724
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I wouldn't be in a rush to do it, but if there's value there, I would do it because I do think that if it's one of those places where you can kind of afford to, you know, Daniel, that guy is the deepest line.
40:19.184 --> 40:32.108
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, you got Newton, I mean, you got Ken law, you got settled, you got a minute of you, you got even Drake Jackson, I mean, they just signed to do this week, I mean, I don't know if he's just a body or not, but I believe he was here before Maurice
40:34.589 --> 40:43.178
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they got guys alone that defensive line that you got a question is Johnny Newton really, you know, how much better is he than any of those guys.
40:43.458 --> 40:54.049
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, unless you think Johnny Newton still has some untapped potential that we haven't seen yet, you know, then that's when you say, no, we're, you know, we're going to still see this out because we know Johnny can do this.
40:54.409 --> 40:56.231
[SPEAKER_02]: But Johnny does have to start showing it though.
40:56.251 --> 40:57.492
[SPEAKER_02]: He has this argument when it's simple.
40:57.632 --> 40:58.433
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we have to see.
40:58.863 --> 41:00.404
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, sunny styles.
41:01.345 --> 41:08.929
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm wish you, I don't think it was a big issue, uh, George like his his game, his debut wasn't like alarming.
41:09.570 --> 41:22.338
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I, I think like even with the criticisms, I think his more so constructive, it should have been interpreted as constructive criticism as opposed to like definitive, uh,
41:22.998 --> 41:24.299
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't even know another word.
41:24.399 --> 41:25.919
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not over.
41:26.299 --> 41:43.385
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not like one thing where it's like, oh, he ain't going to get it I actually think one of the most important things that we got to take away from this is like everybody's transition time to the NFL isn't linear like everybody isn't the same and and and it may take him a little bit longer and one aspect other
41:44.026 --> 41:49.752
[SPEAKER_03]: of playing defense to really pick up and trust his instincts as opposed to another aspect in.
41:49.993 --> 41:52.395
[SPEAKER_03]: He may be great in the past game immediately.
41:52.676 --> 41:57.481
[SPEAKER_03]: His athleticism and his ability to know where his own spots are, even with his
41:58.603 --> 42:12.007
[SPEAKER_03]: spot jobs or even just identifying who is a Simon is like that may be easier to him right now and it may take us some time to pick up in the right game and that may be frustrating because like you don't want to get Gash right even with the 13 yard action.
42:12.027 --> 42:13.968
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that was all on him.
42:13.988 --> 42:21.030
[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of Johnny Newton, he couldn't get off the block to save his life with front and by the time H and ran past and he got half his arm out.
42:21.690 --> 42:50.105
[SPEAKER_03]: And he just blew past Johnny Newton and I'd expose sunny styles to an extent, but yeah, I don't, I don't really think what we're in right now should be somebody who's like super concerned, like people just need to understand sometimes a note of like how he played isn't a huge detriment, but more so just like, all right, we see we got to let's see if he can bounce back the next game or like maybe how long does it take for him or that actually.
42:50.545 --> 42:55.112
[SPEAKER_03]: I fought to click and you know we'll see but I'm not super concerned right now.
42:58.212 --> 43:03.595
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, I mean, I like that some fans, you know, have access to the all 22.
43:03.715 --> 43:10.278
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, y'all do a good job to film review mall, but then it's just too many fans out here to have too much access that they shouldn't have.
43:10.639 --> 43:16.162
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why we had some of the groups that we had because we're talking about one damn series in a game.
43:16.282 --> 43:17.002
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all he played.
43:17.022 --> 43:18.163
[SPEAKER_02]: He played one series.
43:18.183 --> 43:22.365
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is a rookie that's playing literally his first professional football game ever.
43:23.045 --> 43:27.708
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're dissecting his first series as if that's all we need to know of this guy.
43:27.748 --> 43:34.231
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, to me, I just saw a guy that was out there possibly thinking too much and, you know, not trust in what he sees on the field yet.
43:34.631 --> 43:37.233
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he has to get adjusted to the speed of the game.
43:37.273 --> 43:39.033
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think you can do that in one series.
43:39.114 --> 43:41.075
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I would like to see them for a full game.
43:41.135 --> 43:43.656
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not in a precies, but I'm talking about four stars.
43:43.736 --> 43:47.618
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, making any kind of, you know, proclamations about what he is up.
43:48.038 --> 44:05.097
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me go out there at least simply a full damn game even though I'm not the type of person That's gonna come up with a conclusion on the gap the one game, but yeah one series I mean that we're talking about one series where people are so concerned and all man He's a bust and everything and that's because people aren't looking at these, you know, film reviews and am like oh man I think this play here
44:05.237 --> 44:07.037
[SPEAKER_02]: do good on this play can't be any good.
44:07.378 --> 44:10.638
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I mean, you got to give these guys some time to develop.
44:10.698 --> 44:12.159
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think son is one of those players.
44:12.179 --> 44:13.779
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a smart player about all means.
44:13.939 --> 44:17.300
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, here how mature he is, you know, I mean, this is a guy.
44:17.320 --> 44:20.061
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, you know, he's probably going to, I'm not going to say probably.
44:20.081 --> 44:24.022
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he will learn from what he sees on if you have to let it out there in the game.
44:24.382 --> 44:43.079
[SPEAKER_02]: he's also like oh man okay now this is what the NFL speed is like all right now I can go out there not to play at this level or at this speed but even then it's gonna take some time I mean this guy has to go out there and get experience but now we live in such a microwave culture microwave sports call to what we have so many and access to everything like we have coaches acts
44:43.379 --> 44:48.242
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we have coaches, film, and we think we can evaluate on the level of the coaches and everything.
44:48.302 --> 44:53.224
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it's kind of unfair to the players like Sunny, you know, even in our bill races.
44:53.244 --> 44:55.766
[SPEAKER_02]: When you go out there, looking at a lot of those workies, the cable of downs.
44:55.826 --> 45:00.909
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, they're not out there making huge impacts of one series that the fans want to see.
45:00.929 --> 45:06.792
[SPEAKER_02]: But fans are going to go out there and act like these guys can't do it at all because the one time they didn't see it, that means that's it.
45:07.272 --> 45:14.336
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, to get you got to give these guys a chance, man, I think Sonia, you can't have it once he gets his, you know, gets up to speed, he watched his film and everything.
45:14.356 --> 45:18.098
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's wouldn't really, guys on the least worried about him the team right now.
45:18.719 --> 45:19.359
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with the jury.
45:19.379 --> 45:20.500
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has the right make up.
45:20.540 --> 45:23.021
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, that term of chlormentality.
45:23.061 --> 45:23.802
[SPEAKER_00]: He was in a work card.
45:23.822 --> 45:26.503
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to grind his and kind of put his, he's going to put the work in.
45:26.564 --> 45:31.987
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's kind of getting that, and I'm, you know, good that nervous energy out after that first game, I think it'll be okay.
45:32.387 --> 45:34.949
[SPEAKER_00]: The one positive that I'll take away from him is he covered a lot of ground.
45:34.969 --> 45:35.569
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't, he didn't,
45:35.949 --> 45:41.852
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't necessarily an eraser, and also it's first game, but he was like dropping back to the 20 yards, he had some great coverage.
45:42.273 --> 45:45.555
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he had, he showed potentials a really good past coverage line back there.
45:45.935 --> 45:49.197
[SPEAKER_00]: The only concern I would potentially have him in, like he's kind of lean.
45:49.237 --> 45:50.537
[SPEAKER_00]: He's tall, six, five, two, four.
45:50.918 --> 45:52.178
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a tall frame.
45:52.439 --> 45:55.020
[SPEAKER_00]: He used to get a lower end of the block, and that's all he needs to do, kind of moving forward.
45:55.040 --> 45:58.282
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was very enthusiastic with the pick.
45:58.322 --> 45:59.883
[SPEAKER_00]: I was pumped about that weekend and as a steal.
46:00.243 --> 46:01.164
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited about him.
46:01.184 --> 46:01.364
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't
46:05.067 --> 46:11.832
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Jay Tsizi, I'm sorry, man, whether you like it or not, if if John Newton doesn't work out.
46:12.828 --> 46:39.441
[SPEAKER_02]: that is absolutely on Adam beaters and you can't do that's now that's revisionist history if I ever seen it he made that decision to take a take a chance on an injured guy with two bad feet and that's money ball just proved my point exactly Michael he questioned my thoughts on microwave culture and he's already saying Josh with Joseph is the best working on a thing as they that's it you know is there's no one better to do it already
46:41.222 --> 46:41.622
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
46:41.682 --> 46:43.203
[SPEAKER_02]: That's make it way called to the nutshell.
46:43.223 --> 46:44.604
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for providing money.
46:44.924 --> 46:45.805
[SPEAKER_03]: There is one thing.
46:45.845 --> 46:50.328
[SPEAKER_03]: Josh Rose, I do like what I do right over here, and I like what I'm seeing.
46:50.748 --> 46:52.149
[SPEAKER_03]: So do give him.
46:52.209 --> 46:53.190
[SPEAKER_03]: I give him a quick shout out.
46:53.210 --> 46:53.730
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just to mind.
46:53.750 --> 46:58.393
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to watch a little bit more and in the preseason before I keep talking about them.
46:58.573 --> 47:04.117
[SPEAKER_03]: Because right now he has so many people in front of them to really say like what is in back and be as a rookie.
47:04.577 --> 47:05.958
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, money boy.
47:06.732 --> 47:11.896
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't give you credit at all, but we're going to get you creating a drink of jobs.
47:11.936 --> 47:13.418
[SPEAKER_02]: His past coming clear too.
47:13.498 --> 47:14.859
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a couple.
47:14.899 --> 47:16.200
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know how serious it is.
47:16.220 --> 47:21.124
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how serious it is, but a chasin and was over and all the way.
47:21.184 --> 47:21.424
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
47:21.985 --> 47:22.225
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
47:22.965 --> 47:26.168
[SPEAKER_03]: First off, they better stop bullshitting.
47:26.188 --> 47:27.289
[SPEAKER_03]: They said to get a bracket.
47:27.309 --> 47:30.371
[SPEAKER_03]: These injuries end up being somewhat long term.
47:30.512 --> 47:33.214
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, like a few weeks, I'm going to be very upset.
47:33.894 --> 47:34.255
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:34.375 --> 47:35.696
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's going to make me upset.
47:36.843 --> 47:42.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish you, I mean, to be honest, I'm a little bit concerned, I'm excitedly concerned about the intensity of practice, right?
47:42.965 --> 47:44.666
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're supposed to have that practice.
47:45.006 --> 47:49.847
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tuesday and Wednesday in this week are gonna be a little more, but they didn't have what practice today because of all the injuries.
47:50.328 --> 47:51.928
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know, I mean, what's going on?
47:51.968 --> 47:54.269
[SPEAKER_00]: How you got, I don't know if you guys have been a camp yet.
47:54.309 --> 47:54.869
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been there.
47:54.889 --> 47:56.790
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think it was that in chance.
47:56.870 --> 47:58.730
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't really that crazy when I was there, so I don't know.
47:58.750 --> 48:00.811
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know how intense it truly is, but you're right.
48:01.111 --> 48:05.413
[SPEAKER_00]: The injuries, you know, always it's gonna be a special place supposed to be a major player for us.
48:06.853 --> 48:07.654
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say about that.
48:08.876 --> 48:21.874
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you did bring it as you went to the training camp because I think a couple of observations that's important is just like I want to know what you see from that receiver room since you've been out there and and.
48:25.521 --> 48:28.783
[SPEAKER_03]: Who is your real, let's say, top four.
48:28.823 --> 48:36.687
[SPEAKER_03]: We can worry about the banking after that, but like who's like your real four guys, that you think is gonna be major contributes at that position?
48:37.447 --> 48:39.968
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's funny, like all off season now is kind of worried.
48:39.988 --> 48:40.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Now she won't consider him.
48:40.849 --> 48:45.351
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought Washington needed one more player in the water sea of the room, and I'm really happy they got to fund things.
48:45.371 --> 48:48.453
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you guys keep up with that on Maryland guys, so I'll pump the guys to fund them.
48:48.473 --> 48:49.373
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, we were talking about that.
48:49.393 --> 48:50.794
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:50.854 --> 48:51.214
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fun.
48:51.294 --> 48:52.795
[SPEAKER_03]: It was some of that for a couple of years.
48:53.275 --> 48:54.256
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly as my boy.
48:54.276 --> 48:55.157
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the body's about boy.
48:55.177 --> 48:55.798
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching my mirror.
48:55.818 --> 48:56.659
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my guy right there.
48:57.040 --> 49:01.645
[SPEAKER_00]: So having him comes in on the commander is it just not everybody into the right slot, right?
49:01.665 --> 49:04.809
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we are hoping that Antonio Williams would be a good number two.
49:04.849 --> 49:07.112
[SPEAKER_00]: We were hoping a trail on Brooks would be a good number three.
49:07.132 --> 49:08.033
[SPEAKER_00]: This someone is so forth.
49:08.413 --> 49:10.195
[SPEAKER_00]: I think every kind of falls in line out.
49:10.235 --> 49:11.297
[SPEAKER_00]: I think everything's going to be good.
49:12.097 --> 49:18.098
[SPEAKER_00]: Tim McCleuron, if he has helped me throughout 17 years, I still think he's going to be the the biggest playmaker on the team.
49:18.138 --> 49:20.999
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he might be more of that linear deep shot kind of guy.
49:21.039 --> 49:21.939
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still got that speed.
49:21.979 --> 49:22.959
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jay likes him.
49:23.359 --> 49:24.519
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking that shot off the top.
49:25.159 --> 49:26.119
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be surprised.
49:26.139 --> 49:28.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much you guys care about this.
49:28.080 --> 49:30.240
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the funnest, but have the most targets.
49:30.260 --> 49:35.241
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be more of that like that short yardage set third down chain moving guy that zone buster.
49:35.261 --> 49:40.862
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a three yard play for your place keep the team a chance of insane in the positive game strip.
49:41.422 --> 49:43.663
[SPEAKER_00]: that's gonna be used to fondates there so I like both of them.
49:43.683 --> 49:47.584
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care who gets more of yards or who more targets attached onto all the same in me.
49:47.604 --> 49:48.304
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all about that.
49:49.164 --> 49:52.025
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Lidma Capri, guys, we're gonna be number three believe it or not.
49:52.565 --> 49:54.045
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big Lidma Capri fan.
49:54.085 --> 49:56.506
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily like love him, but it seems to be grinded.
49:56.526 --> 49:57.786
[SPEAKER_00]: I seem to be doing pretty well.
49:58.126 --> 50:02.147
[SPEAKER_00]: I keep hearing good things about him and like when I saw him, I can't be eating a little bit when I saw him there.
50:02.508 --> 50:03.948
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll kind of see him as number three.
50:04.648 --> 50:07.591
[SPEAKER_00]: I want Antonio Williams to be up there, but we'll see how that goes.
50:08.132 --> 50:09.433
[SPEAKER_00]: I love you guys saw him in person.
50:09.453 --> 50:11.275
[SPEAKER_00]: Antonio Williams is smaller than people think.
50:11.295 --> 50:12.316
[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of a ship here.
50:12.977 --> 50:14.539
[SPEAKER_00]: He's have a smaller, like, slight guy.
50:14.579 --> 50:16.601
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm like, I'm a TV.
50:16.681 --> 50:18.623
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, minute, he's small.
50:18.643 --> 50:20.765
[SPEAKER_00]: People are saying like he's six foot, like, six one.
50:20.785 --> 50:22.607
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, five, 11, but he doesn't look.
50:22.807 --> 50:23.808
[SPEAKER_00]: He's looked at that big to me.
50:23.828 --> 50:25.450
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's still kind of getting there.
50:25.850 --> 50:26.831
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy that he's there.
50:27.432 --> 50:30.034
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Trey Berks is going to be like a situational guy.
50:30.054 --> 50:31.195
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big trade Brooks guy.
50:31.235 --> 50:32.416
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he had to kind of show it.
50:32.816 --> 50:35.978
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, he had 35 catches, like a 35 catches.
50:35.998 --> 50:37.699
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the highest in his entire career.
50:37.719 --> 50:41.522
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, his rookie C is the 10 catches last year over eight games for the commanders.
50:42.102 --> 50:43.924
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a huge trade Brooks guy.
50:43.944 --> 50:46.245
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he offers something different with that size.
50:46.545 --> 50:47.786
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a red zone threat.
50:47.806 --> 50:49.668
[SPEAKER_00]: He can use him on like possession receiver.
50:50.208 --> 50:52.590
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the wrestler receiving a room, you know, I think.
50:53.290 --> 50:58.373
[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of cuts, I think VN Jefferson and Dami Brown are the ones that are in the biggest concern.
50:58.753 --> 51:05.477
[SPEAKER_00]: I think VN Jefferson will probably be the guy that's cutting my opinion because I think, I think, like, J&D does a likes Dami Brown.
51:05.517 --> 51:07.758
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, Dami Brown plays special teams.
51:07.778 --> 51:10.799
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the gunner I believe in that that couple of years ago is a gunner on the pont team.
51:11.300 --> 51:13.561
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think to see all of her that speed is a little bit bigger too.
51:13.661 --> 51:14.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Dami is bigger than people think.
51:14.862 --> 51:16.743
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like 62 or something like that too.
51:16.763 --> 51:18.383
[SPEAKER_00]: So people kind of forget about that.
51:18.423 --> 51:20.505
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I think this stick around my opinion.
51:22.674 --> 51:30.483
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're going to say, I mean, I love George's, you know, observation at a Y receiver room, um, and I like to hit a look reference to me.
51:30.503 --> 51:31.344
[SPEAKER_02]: Luke is my dude.
51:31.424 --> 51:34.467
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want it, it's like, I'm a lot of name.
51:34.988 --> 51:43.838
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I mean, and again, but talking about Luke kind of just reminds me of, um, a player we didn't mention at all this show yet, and, um,
51:44.438 --> 51:51.320
[SPEAKER_02]: And granted, the bar was low because Sam Hartman was so bad, but the rookie code of bad came in a look pretty damn good.
51:51.360 --> 52:00.782
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, I mean, maybe maybe you have something there as far as a developmental e-scoz and I think that's a important going for when we talk about a back of quarterback is Mario just not going to be here for that.
52:01.102 --> 52:06.243
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to need to have somebody to come in and develop at their quarterback position and I thought anything.
52:06.303 --> 52:09.004
[SPEAKER_02]: came and he looked and posed again right away.
52:09.024 --> 52:10.264
[SPEAKER_02]: He looked like an NFL quarterback.
52:10.284 --> 52:14.646
[SPEAKER_02]: Like some semblance of an NFL quarterback right after Sam Hart became in left the game.
52:15.046 --> 52:16.487
[SPEAKER_02]: And he gave receivers a chance.
52:16.547 --> 52:20.908
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, he kind of hoping to see that earlier in the game with some of those guys get the chance.
52:20.928 --> 52:24.810
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think they think gave Antonio wins his first reception of the game.
52:24.870 --> 52:25.090
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
52:25.490 --> 52:33.832
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's going to be interesting without Mario the especially of Jayden's not playing which obviously we hope Jayden does get Those reps a little bit of reps against Detroit.
52:34.072 --> 52:45.555
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's going to be that number two quarterback because I don't think you can just throw Sam Hartman out there again We have to be able to evaluate some of these guys and some of these guys being that wide receiver room I want to see more of that wide receiver room this week
52:47.035 --> 52:53.160
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, Terry and Steph's not going to play a lot, but, you know, you want to see them guys kind of getting to a bit of a rhythm.
52:53.180 --> 52:57.504
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to see Diami Brown on who's going to stock their merch as wide to see the 304.
52:57.824 --> 52:59.946
[SPEAKER_02]: We couldn't see any of that, at least in the preseason game.
52:59.986 --> 53:06.631
[SPEAKER_02]: And George, you know, obviously, you've been the training camp, so you've seen a little bit more of that group to say who can be three, four, five.
53:06.651 --> 53:14.798
[SPEAKER_02]: But I want, you know, for me, personally, I want to start to see some of those guys get a chance and maybe eighth and give them a better chance to Sam does going forward, at least for the rest of the preseason.
53:15.038 --> 53:26.550
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me say one thing, Jerry, if you don't mind, all we say is all we want to say is that when I want to camp, Jaden Danos, I'm not someone that kind of hyped up and kind of like, you know, blows things out of portion, but Jaden Danos, his velocity is much improved from last year.
53:26.570 --> 53:29.432
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's because maybe he got stronger, maybe I better, maybe he's changed.
53:30.053 --> 53:35.036
[SPEAKER_00]: He has like trajectory through his ball, but he has some great zip on the ball, like better than I've seen in previous years.
53:35.416 --> 53:38.458
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, um, uh, eighth and it was also, and it was very behind him.
53:38.498 --> 53:44.341
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Sam Hartman is a noticeable invariant of, but Sam Hartman is like, in terms of arm strength is the weakest of them all.
53:44.641 --> 53:46.582
[SPEAKER_00]: And because of that, you know, you can pick and jump on that.
53:46.602 --> 53:48.763
[SPEAKER_00]: They can get, they'll just create that at the pro level.
53:48.783 --> 53:52.065
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why we can't see anything because he's has like no velocity.
53:52.105 --> 53:54.886
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can't, there was those outrots to the, to the, um,
54:02.362 --> 54:10.966
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it would be interesting because I obviously don't think Hartman had that bad of a game.
54:10.986 --> 54:12.907
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he had that bad of a game.
54:14.048 --> 54:15.969
[SPEAKER_03]: Granted, there's two throws that really stick out.
54:16.229 --> 54:16.989
[SPEAKER_03]: You already talked about it.
54:17.029 --> 54:18.070
[SPEAKER_03]: The Lugman care everyone.
54:18.250 --> 54:19.030
[SPEAKER_03]: That was bad.
54:19.691 --> 54:23.613
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like I actually don't think the issue was who he targeted.
54:24.053 --> 54:25.334
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Lugman care was open.
54:25.394 --> 54:25.654
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
54:26.976 --> 54:28.497
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, he was still over the top of him.
54:28.897 --> 54:30.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
54:30.558 --> 54:36.081
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he was trying to hit the backside day and like the sweet spot of his own.
54:36.781 --> 54:39.223
[SPEAKER_03]: But like to do that, you have to be perfect.
54:39.763 --> 54:43.165
[SPEAKER_03]: And you have to like, you really have to like nail that throw.
54:43.665 --> 54:48.448
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what you saw somebody who knew he had to be perfect and he sailed that well for it.
54:50.850 --> 54:53.932
[SPEAKER_03]: And then was the one where it is, right?
54:54.412 --> 54:56.454
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the one I was going to.
54:56.674 --> 54:58.815
[SPEAKER_03]: And ironically, that was like a corner route.
54:59.256 --> 55:03.278
[SPEAKER_03]: It can look like an owl because he ran the Jalen Lane ran it from the slide.
55:03.659 --> 55:04.819
[SPEAKER_03]: Any, when I was sad.
55:05.760 --> 55:31.418
[SPEAKER_03]: and Sam threw it right to the DB, no precision there, but like those are the two that really stands out, but outside of that, like he also made some really aggressive throws that actually connected and like watching it, I just gave him some grease and seeing how he recovered from those first two series, those particular throws.
55:31.858 --> 55:34.059
[SPEAKER_03]: Does that mean that I think he's better than the
55:35.371 --> 55:52.438
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, no, um, I actually thought the rookie was more impressive than him, but I would like to see it's, but when it comes to rookie's, especially in certain positions, like I would like to see more consistency, like I want to see you do this a couple more times, and they're going to get a lot of snaps in that third game game.
55:52.558 --> 55:54.259
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I would I would like to see it.
55:55.332 --> 55:59.215
[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously, even the second game, I'm sorry, because Mary Otis heard he's out for the precision.
55:59.735 --> 56:02.437
[SPEAKER_03]: So like we're going to see a lot more snazzy than those two.
56:04.178 --> 56:13.844
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it is a big conversation because ultimately, what do you do in this situation like do you cut?
56:14.972 --> 56:17.754
[SPEAKER_03]: one quarterback and and stash the one on practice squad.
56:17.794 --> 56:20.716
[SPEAKER_03]: Me and the keeping two two quarterbacks on on the active on the act.
56:20.977 --> 56:21.817
[SPEAKER_03]: The final 53.
56:22.658 --> 56:27.681
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but I think ultimately whoever does he could isn't being stash the practice squad.
56:27.722 --> 56:31.764
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're going to keep one of those same heartmen or what's the last thing.
56:32.125 --> 56:33.426
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't even tell you.
56:33.446 --> 56:33.906
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:33.986 --> 56:34.446
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:34.466 --> 56:34.767
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
56:34.787 --> 56:34.967
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
56:35.047 --> 56:35.307
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
56:35.327 --> 56:35.507
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
56:35.567 --> 56:35.767
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:36.348 --> 56:36.588
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:36.608 --> 56:37.188
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:37.289 --> 56:37.789
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:37.989 --> 56:38.409
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:38.449 --> 56:39.650
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to call a man as a brother.
56:43.553 --> 56:44.433
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think it's interesting.
56:44.453 --> 56:45.754
[SPEAKER_03]: I like him.
56:46.154 --> 56:52.997
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he was I think he had he played a little bit better than than Sam Harvey, but I also think Sam Harvey like the distance wasn't that far off.
56:54.117 --> 56:58.779
[SPEAKER_03]: And last thing, I'm cool with Luke making the team.
56:59.019 --> 57:01.540
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have an issue with him making the team.
57:02.401 --> 57:03.301
[SPEAKER_03]: But was interesting.
57:03.321 --> 57:07.303
[SPEAKER_03]: I would like for people to look at some of his reps if you can.
57:08.612 --> 57:13.777
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, against if anybody has like the precies and all 22, just take a look at his reps.
57:14.277 --> 57:21.023
[SPEAKER_03]: If you can excuse me, if you can against Miami, they threw him several different looks.
57:21.063 --> 57:33.253
[SPEAKER_03]: Whether it's uh, uh, off, off man, uh, zone coverage, um, whether it's press coverage, uh, it's still
57:35.565 --> 57:36.826
[SPEAKER_03]: I would just like for y'all to see.
57:37.886 --> 57:42.309
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want to tease it, so let me just be a little bit more interesting.
57:42.349 --> 57:51.614
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think Luke still didn't show, like he had a real plan against these different coverages.
57:52.395 --> 57:59.679
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that the big conversation that people had about him was like, how he seemed a little bit more prepared.
57:59.719 --> 58:01.600
[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously y'all said he's having a great camp.
58:02.419 --> 58:21.391
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't doubt that at all, but I also like to see now at this point after I watched that pre-season game, like, how does he get an open, and like, no, I really like, is he getting schemeed open, is it, is it, is it him, like, finding like the sauce boss in the zone, is he actually creating separation, because like the one rep that I did see in one of
58:24.653 --> 58:27.654
[SPEAKER_03]: He got his hands hemmed up, but he's still most to do.
58:28.435 --> 58:29.895
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like he didn't create separation.
58:30.636 --> 58:33.557
[SPEAKER_03]: And even like his biggest cash last year was against the charges.
58:34.237 --> 58:37.239
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't create separation in, but he'd most to shit out of somebody.
58:38.318 --> 58:39.798
[SPEAKER_03]: great cash over the shoulder cash.
58:39.818 --> 58:40.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
58:40.278 --> 58:40.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:40.559 --> 58:40.919
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
58:40.979 --> 58:41.259
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
58:41.299 --> 58:42.119
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know.
58:42.659 --> 58:49.041
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say, you went, you kind of alluded to a Lucas Lucas more of a result person versus the process.
58:49.181 --> 58:52.661
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think you looking at the process, which is a great look.
58:52.701 --> 58:56.922
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a lot of do's if you if you don't get the process, right, the results not going to go out right.
58:56.942 --> 58:58.983
[SPEAKER_02]: But somehow look, always makes the result.
58:59.003 --> 59:03.764
[SPEAKER_02]: When he gets his chances, the result comes out right, even though the process doesn't look pretty, it doesn't look clean.
59:04.164 --> 59:06.125
[SPEAKER_02]: Somehow he always does a good, he
59:08.465 --> 59:13.406
[SPEAKER_03]: even when he just gained up, he showed up, he came through for his quarterback, like, cool.
59:13.767 --> 59:18.968
[SPEAKER_03]: And not even in a dismissive cool, it's like, yeah, like, that's, you have to just pose to do, you did it.
59:19.348 --> 59:23.269
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I can trust you to get you to ball in this situation where you
59:30.818 --> 59:51.068
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'll say it, but where I get it is some quarterbacks aren't as and won't always be as aggressive as Jayden and even Jayden himself if he has better options on a particular plate, like I can't trust trying to get fit the border to look if he ain't even getting open at the line.
59:52.119 --> 01:00:01.041
[SPEAKER_03]: Or if he can't separate on that beyond that first level, right, that's that's why I'm getting that so it's like from a development standpoint, he's going to make the team.
01:00:02.442 --> 01:00:18.206
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like, oh, how much stalker people really putting in Luke in his development this all season because like after that first game, I will love to see how he's actually getting open at practice because if he's not if he's making big plays, which is not a knock it all, but if he's making big plays when I really separate in.
01:00:18.786 --> 01:00:25.572
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it's like I don't see him being like in that top echelon upper echelon of people who's going to get a target shooter.
01:00:25.832 --> 01:00:26.813
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's what I'm in.
01:00:27.543 --> 01:00:46.149
[SPEAKER_00]: And my think is I'm curious to see what Dave O'Blow does in regard to like, is he going to have a true like hierarchy like 1, 2, and 3, he these people that I'm going to target or is he going to do more like a package kind of thing like, like, hey, loop it carefully, maybe on one place is a better run block and then GL lane or basically, you know, in 20 ways, if it's a quick third down, I want to ask when I can, we'll quick off a line up as the route running, maybe go that route.
01:00:46.169 --> 01:00:49.090
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be, it's going to be interesting to see where he goes.
01:00:49.110 --> 01:00:51.691
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Luke just looked like he looks at him.
01:00:51.711 --> 01:00:52.711
[SPEAKER_00]: I make the team in my opinion.
01:00:52.751 --> 01:00:54.412
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be a contributor by some of the
01:00:57.342 --> 01:00:59.363
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, can before we get out of here though.
01:00:59.544 --> 01:01:05.408
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean money ball he doesn't bring up a lot of great points, but he Money ball man.
01:01:05.488 --> 01:01:07.589
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it doesn't bring up a lot of great points.
01:01:07.609 --> 01:01:08.070
[SPEAKER_02]: Money ball.
01:01:08.090 --> 01:01:08.970
[SPEAKER_02]: This doesn't get it.
01:01:09.170 --> 01:01:09.791
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sorry.
01:01:09.831 --> 01:01:11.152
[SPEAKER_02]: Money ball just doesn't get it, man.
01:01:11.592 --> 01:01:13.394
[SPEAKER_02]: But money ball to your point.
01:01:13.474 --> 01:01:14.294
[SPEAKER_02]: Drew Stevens.
01:01:14.334 --> 01:01:14.955
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, man.
01:01:14.975 --> 01:01:15.955
[SPEAKER_02]: The Drew Stevens era.
01:01:16.015 --> 01:01:19.158
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so happy that we are, you know, we made a decision on this.
01:01:19.538 --> 01:01:22.120
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said this look because for me personally,
01:01:22.600 --> 01:01:30.604
[SPEAKER_02]: Just hearing how Drew Stevens has kind of been, he's been pretty much this whole training campus far as kicking in accuracy and field goals go.
01:01:31.464 --> 01:01:37.748
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, man, when it comes to preseason games, I don't even want to see Jake Moody take his reps away and preseason games.
01:01:37.788 --> 01:01:44.571
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see Drew Stevens get all of those reps. Now granted, I mean, they still had the competition going, game one against the dolphins.
01:01:44.651 --> 01:01:47.312
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Jake Moody did make a field goal even though it was barely.
01:01:47.392 --> 01:01:48.493
[SPEAKER_02]: Family made a dope shot.
01:01:49.493 --> 01:01:52.015
[SPEAKER_02]: Drew Steam has made his only field go in the game.
01:01:52.495 --> 01:02:00.661
[SPEAKER_02]: Now Drew Steam is the kicker and for these next two preseason games, we get to see Drew Steam's whenever we do get kicking opportunities.
01:02:00.761 --> 01:02:06.045
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the guy and you want to see him kind of get that momentum going before the regular season starts.
01:02:06.325 --> 01:02:09.467
[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully he solidifies why they chose him.
01:02:09.507 --> 01:02:10.528
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this will be huge.
01:02:10.948 --> 01:02:15.772
[SPEAKER_02]: If Adam Peters on Washington has found a answer to that kick position that has alluded us for so many years.
01:02:17.089 --> 01:02:25.495
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm going to let you go George, but to answer this part of the conversation, even Steven said he would surprise that they could moody this early.
01:02:25.515 --> 01:02:26.536
[SPEAKER_03]: He thought they used one.
01:02:26.576 --> 01:02:29.978
[SPEAKER_03]: They was going to let him let them rock out for the next two weeks.
01:02:30.739 --> 01:02:34.101
[SPEAKER_03]: And even after that first game, like Steven is Mr.
01:02:34.161 --> 01:02:35.262
[SPEAKER_03]: Kick, they didn't count.
01:02:36.383 --> 01:02:39.225
[SPEAKER_03]: And then moody had his one that went off the
01:02:43.243 --> 01:02:50.212
[SPEAKER_03]: Give it down the way out a little bit even for the first out and so do y'all think that they made the right decision move.
01:02:50.272 --> 01:02:51.153
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I know you did, right?
01:02:51.173 --> 01:02:57.581
[SPEAKER_03]: You just say on the set, but George, do you think that they made the right decision making this move right now or are you it?
01:02:58.443 --> 01:03:02.724
[SPEAKER_00]: I like what Drey said before, Drey brought up that good point, which I do agree with.
01:03:03.164 --> 01:03:08.846
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to see another week, because all throughout Trenic Cape, it was about even like what I saw Moody, he actually looked really good in Cape.
01:03:08.866 --> 01:03:16.768
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like two foot toe for Steven, six for six, he was kind of doing very very well, but then over the last week or so he must have gotten his own head, because he started to miss
01:03:17.988 --> 01:03:18.929
[SPEAKER_00]: missed a little bit here or there.
01:03:19.429 --> 01:03:21.110
[SPEAKER_00]: Drew Stevens always had the bigger leg.
01:03:21.130 --> 01:03:27.054
[SPEAKER_00]: He's always had the, you know, when you saw it, it was like, they both were accurate, but you Stevens would be like, 10 yards further.
01:03:27.074 --> 01:03:29.816
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of looked more like more powerful when he kicked the ball.
01:03:30.317 --> 01:03:31.257
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like a dresser.
01:03:31.557 --> 01:03:34.359
[SPEAKER_00]: For me, initially, walking in, I was like, oh, give them more to compete.
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:39.623
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, if you, if they made a decision, if they're seeing it every single day in practice, they know Drew Stevens is better.
01:03:40.023 --> 01:03:41.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not give them all the reps?
01:03:41.304 --> 01:03:42.705
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not give them the NFL experience?
01:03:42.765 --> 01:03:43.686
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not put them
01:03:47.149 --> 01:03:50.156
[SPEAKER_00]: He knows he's the guy, kind of given that confidence, so I make this my opinion.
01:03:50.417 --> 01:03:50.858
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll roll with that.
01:03:51.908 --> 01:03:56.991
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think at the bottom line, I'm cool with it.
01:03:57.071 --> 01:04:04.074
[SPEAKER_03]: It's whatever I think at this point, and you just want to have to roll with the punches if you go with somebody this young.
01:04:04.734 --> 01:04:06.896
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not to say he's incapable, right?
01:04:07.076 --> 01:04:09.977
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I saw some videos today where he was booting out.
01:04:10.197 --> 01:04:12.158
[SPEAKER_03]: A fan said it was from 60, I have no idea.
01:04:12.618 --> 01:04:14.339
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe the announce that it was from 60.
01:04:14.379 --> 01:04:16.220
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe that's where he's coming from.
01:04:16.781 --> 01:04:20.262
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, I think, and the reason why I brought up
01:04:21.923 --> 01:04:25.247
[SPEAKER_03]: as he made it, he could hit the, hit the field go for my 65, 75.
01:04:27.210 --> 01:04:29.933
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think you're going to roll the punches.
01:04:30.334 --> 01:04:33.738
[SPEAKER_03]: But what's important for him is to make these ones early on.
01:04:33.778 --> 01:04:36.422
[SPEAKER_03]: I was you to guy, even when it's personal, he doesn't sound like.
01:04:36.862 --> 01:04:38.423
[SPEAKER_03]: He's super nervous about anything.
01:04:38.523 --> 01:04:40.085
[SPEAKER_03]: He's actually very careful.
01:04:40.205 --> 01:04:53.475
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's over explaining, but I think it's important because he's he's he's She has some stuff that I'm pretty sure people didn't know about the elements of the kicking game So like I think all of those things are important because it's like it's breaking down how he even processed his things and when he's learning
01:04:54.133 --> 01:05:03.059
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, as a rookie and in for him to be a little bit that comfortable and sharing that information right now, um, albeit as a specialist, right, is it's big for him.
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:09.543
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, make a couple of those kicks and I think they're going to try and showcase or like giving those opportunities to make those.
01:05:10.203 --> 01:05:25.652
[SPEAKER_03]: anywhere between those 49 yards to to 60 plus and preseason if the opportunity arises us all about him being able to to nail it for his sake uh... but also like uh... i think the coaches will be a little bit is is more so about the fan base and yeah and you're reaction
01:05:26.412 --> 01:05:37.354
[SPEAKER_02]: And my final thought on that kick in situation and you know, I've mentioned this before, but it's a huge thing to have a kicker that you can have that weapon when you step across the 50 yard line, you are in a field going range.
01:05:37.374 --> 01:05:41.435
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it with Dallas, like, you know, wearing an Aubrey's one of the best, if not the best kicker in the league.
01:05:42.015 --> 01:05:45.016
[SPEAKER_02]: And he gives Dallas that chance every time they step across midfield.
01:05:45.036 --> 01:05:51.077
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it just allows you to feel more confident, you know, a certain thing you might call on a third down because you know to kicker the edge of back.
01:05:51.497 --> 01:05:56.199
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, granted, we don't know if true steam is that yet, but that's the potential he has with his leg.
01:05:56.399 --> 01:06:07.323
[SPEAKER_02]: And we've heard it all through the training camp, even when the days that you were here that both kickers made all six-day field goes, I was hearing people saying that true steam is just have more pop on here.
01:06:08.003 --> 01:06:35.508
[SPEAKER_02]: And my biggest worry again before, you know, we got into off-season camps and practices was I was more worried about the accuracy I'm like I know he has the power, but I want to see if he can adjust to the NFL hash marks because they kick, you know It's different colleges wider and it fills a little you know narrower So you have to kind of get used to kicking for those hash marks and so far so good it looks like he's got that part So if he has the accuracy bar down with the power I mean this could be that kick or you've been looking for I mean
01:06:36.188 --> 01:06:41.852
[SPEAKER_02]: There I say it, franchise kicker, you know, a guy who wants to work some, not work it out.
01:06:41.872 --> 01:06:43.393
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't work it out somewhere else.
01:06:43.413 --> 01:06:50.017
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully, you know, hey, George, great time always talking with you.
01:06:50.577 --> 01:06:52.819
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to give you the floor, because you do a lot.
01:06:53.059 --> 01:07:00.444
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and addition to the big good and comedy podcast, I want to give you the floor to play anything and everything that you got going on.
01:07:05.627 --> 01:07:06.307
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, man.
01:07:06.327 --> 01:07:07.668
[SPEAKER_00]: 100% but thank you for having me guys.
01:07:07.688 --> 01:07:08.228
[SPEAKER_00]: We jumped on.
01:07:08.248 --> 01:07:11.410
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't even plan anything out 40 minutes easy conversation, bro.
01:07:11.450 --> 01:07:12.370
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a nice talk.
01:07:12.491 --> 01:07:17.693
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely thinking about me on, you know, I'm George Carmey, G. Carmey 21 on Twitter.
01:07:17.733 --> 01:07:18.954
[SPEAKER_00]: I do the big Doug and Carmey show.
01:07:18.974 --> 01:07:20.695
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a show every Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
01:07:21.035 --> 01:07:22.095
[SPEAKER_00]: We got some good guests this week.
01:07:22.115 --> 01:07:25.097
[SPEAKER_00]: We have our Martensi Johnson, it's kind of a new, media guy.
01:07:25.157 --> 01:07:26.037
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been coming up.
01:07:26.057 --> 01:07:29.579
[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming on our show on Wednesday, Denton days and to be on their own Friday.
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:31.100
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be kind of fun to talk about to them.
01:07:32.040 --> 01:07:33.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you're more of your right man.
01:07:33.281 --> 01:07:35.022
[SPEAKER_00]: I do some other things to you on Sundays.
01:07:35.423 --> 01:07:39.946
[SPEAKER_00]: I have two on content creators that I'm cool with James and Joe We do best at enemies.
01:07:40.006 --> 01:07:42.748
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a cowboy's equals commanders podcast is fun.
01:07:42.988 --> 01:07:48.412
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of good nuts for about one hour It talks back about the NFC is it's time and then also right.
01:07:48.432 --> 01:07:55.136
[SPEAKER_00]: I do the commanders around table There's a bunch of guys that are like the true journalists from the University of Maryland they graduated You form a lower writing group.
01:07:55.156 --> 01:07:56.778
[SPEAKER_00]: They put me up and I'm on that writing group.
01:07:56.798 --> 01:07:58.179
[SPEAKER_00]: We do that a couple of times a week.
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.180
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's fun Check it out to it
01:08:00.662 --> 01:08:01.302
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is.
01:08:01.322 --> 01:08:02.263
[SPEAKER_03]: The man be working.
01:08:02.923 --> 01:08:05.224
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a more regular job, too.
01:08:05.264 --> 01:08:05.625
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
01:08:05.665 --> 01:08:07.526
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's a lot of pressure.
01:08:08.046 --> 01:08:08.446
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
01:08:08.926 --> 01:08:09.627
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:08:09.647 --> 01:08:10.047
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:08:10.827 --> 01:08:11.288
[SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
01:08:11.688 --> 01:08:12.168
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
01:08:12.188 --> 01:08:14.649
[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to wrap it up for us on this podcast again.
01:08:14.669 --> 01:08:21.753
[SPEAKER_03]: If you haven't done so, make sure you follow George on his socials, but also a big, uh, and Carmy pie case.
01:08:22.093 --> 01:08:24.695
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we'll be back Thursday for our preview.
01:08:25.355 --> 01:08:26.276
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and
01:08:27.276 --> 01:08:41.261
[SPEAKER_03]: Bishananagans, uh, yeah, um, and then we'll have a conversation on Saturday post game right after the final whistle.
01:08:41.541 --> 01:08:42.342
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take it easy man.
01:08:42.362 --> 01:08:43.662
[SPEAKER_03]: Joyos, uh, Tuesday.
01:08:43.682 --> 01:08:44.442
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll say something.
01:08:44.702 --> 01:08:45.583
[SPEAKER_03]: Joyos, Tuesday.
01:08:45.883 --> 01:08:46.803
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be about it man.
01:08:49.364 --> 01:09:06.613
[SPEAKER_01]: Watchin' throw the bump, we gon' pick it up You gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up You gon' play through for the longer, you gon' put it up You're the funny side, you hit it, put your pants in Don't be lookin' for the rest, you don't know flags in Keep the helmet on, keep the police tight You the type you wanna win by any means, right?
01:09:06.974 --> 01:09:09.075
[SPEAKER_01]: You should look alive, this is trapping down
00:05.416 --> 00:08.459
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you in the future.
00:30.624 --> 00:51.861
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sad, hot, watching throw the bump, we gon' pick it up, you gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up, you gon' play the foot along, you gon' put it up, you're the funny side, you hit it, put your pants in, don't be looking for the rift, you don't know flag's in, keep the hammer in on, keep the police tight, you the type you wanna win by any means, right, you should look alive, this is trippin' that.
00:53.485 --> 00:56.808
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir, we're going back to another episode of Shopify case.
00:57.168 --> 01:00.191
[SPEAKER_03]: I am the oldest of the Shopify case, moldy mold.
01:00.672 --> 01:04.655
[SPEAKER_03]: Jamal Forest, Drey is in the building.
01:04.715 --> 01:06.357
[SPEAKER_03]: We see all in the chat for what?
01:06.857 --> 01:10.721
[SPEAKER_03]: Ben's, oh, I'm sorry, big, big smoke in the chat.
01:10.821 --> 01:12.682
[SPEAKER_03]: Monty, big fanfare, what's up?
01:12.702 --> 01:14.984
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate everybody's checking in, Dapper.
01:15.725 --> 01:16.506
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like
01:17.605 --> 01:19.587
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me can demonstrate your items out of the way first.
01:19.767 --> 01:31.958
[SPEAKER_03]: I hit that light button at the subscribe, but if you're on the YouTube side of things, definitely appreciate your watching, second-hand live, if you want to become an official member or official driver, you can definitely do so by becoming a member on the channel, showing your support that way.
01:33.039 --> 01:36.662
[SPEAKER_03]: And then on the Twitch and Twitter side, we appreciate your second-hand live.
01:36.682 --> 01:39.744
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate it, Barry, who is joining in.
01:41.026 --> 01:42.967
[SPEAKER_03]: We did have the big Doug and Carmey's,
01:44.756 --> 01:48.059
[SPEAKER_03]: Big Dug and Carmie Pike has, big Dug and George Carmie coming through.
01:48.119 --> 01:49.821
[SPEAKER_03]: George is still coming through.
01:49.881 --> 01:51.903
[SPEAKER_03]: Dug had the, I love Philips who will.
01:52.203 --> 01:56.467
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're gonna try and spend a block to do another a podcast together down the line.
01:56.727 --> 01:58.709
[SPEAKER_03]: But George is gonna be joining us tonight.
01:58.749 --> 02:00.651
[SPEAKER_03]: If you haven't, that's what made with the Pike has.
02:00.671 --> 02:02.693
[SPEAKER_03]: They've been on our show a few times.
02:03.494 --> 02:04.555
[SPEAKER_03]: And they do a great job.
02:05.135 --> 02:11.001
[SPEAKER_03]: doing their thing as well on their side, dropping gems on their pie cast.
02:11.102 --> 02:13.864
[SPEAKER_03]: Audio side hit that follow button hit us with a rating review if you can.
02:14.105 --> 02:16.968
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a sense I can do so and it's free to show you support that away.
02:18.986 --> 02:20.687
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're done with the administrative items.
02:20.707 --> 02:21.547
[SPEAKER_03]: Jay, what's good with you?
02:21.567 --> 02:22.168
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you feeling?
02:22.748 --> 02:23.649
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a good man.
02:23.709 --> 02:27.671
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, another week closer to the season, man.
02:27.771 --> 02:28.391
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait for her.
02:28.912 --> 02:29.872
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just ready for football.
02:29.892 --> 02:32.073
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually ready to get back on the fan duel.
02:32.153 --> 02:35.295
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I haven't been on a fan duel all the time.
02:35.315 --> 02:35.615
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.
02:35.675 --> 02:41.339
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I haven't been able to do any of that all summer, you know, I'm saying so just to get back into swinging things with that.
02:42.219 --> 02:51.549
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, shout out to the do, but also shout out to, you know, underdog, you know, I think that's one thing about this time for me.
02:52.150 --> 03:03.461
[SPEAKER_03]: I do swing a little bit with the MLB and baseball early on sometimes, but most times like that period of like May or June to September.
03:04.422 --> 03:09.188
[SPEAKER_03]: or really like the last week of August because of week zero, like that's where I'm quiet.
03:09.389 --> 03:13.914
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's where I'm like I'm and I'm and a couple dollars here in there to the council build another bank roll.
03:14.255 --> 03:18.941
[SPEAKER_03]: So I can go, uh, so I can go full fleece all the way to the start.
03:19.482 --> 03:20.042
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know,
03:21.069 --> 03:22.612
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and that is you bro.
03:22.772 --> 03:25.035
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't bet it in in the baseball this summer.
03:25.116 --> 03:30.845
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, now one in and I didn't put a dollar Setton to any kind of betting platform website.
03:30.945 --> 03:35.552
[SPEAKER_02]: I was cold turkey all summer so soon as we zero get I think we do our next weekend
03:36.324 --> 03:38.285
[SPEAKER_02]: like, yeah, yeah, yeah, all good song.
03:38.345 --> 03:39.985
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been so good every next week.
03:40.165 --> 03:44.387
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man, I don't even care who claimed, but I'm betting on every game all week, zero.
03:44.827 --> 03:46.968
[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, he been on the NWNBA.
03:46.988 --> 03:58.392
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I say somebody, I went to, I went to Atlanta this week and I'm trying to figure out what day, somebody said they still been, you know, putting plays and bro said he'd been basking overseas, basketball over.
03:59.355 --> 04:00.275
[SPEAKER_02]: See, that's when you got a problem.
04:00.475 --> 04:01.856
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when you got to stop break this.
04:01.876 --> 04:06.057
[SPEAKER_02]: I ain't better look green, baseball, no German basketball, nothing.
04:06.218 --> 04:07.878
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, where does it stop, bro?
04:08.078 --> 04:08.558
[SPEAKER_02]: What's up?
04:09.139 --> 04:10.099
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good boy.
04:10.799 --> 04:11.680
[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't get it, man.
04:11.740 --> 04:12.440
[SPEAKER_03]: I was so good.
04:12.460 --> 04:14.721
[SPEAKER_03]: I was asking questions like, I've never been before.
04:14.761 --> 04:17.482
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, also, how did you do this, bro?
04:17.942 --> 04:19.462
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, who are you looking at?
04:19.582 --> 04:20.323
[SPEAKER_03]: You got a hit, bro.
04:21.288 --> 04:22.589
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I ain't get it, bro.
04:23.149 --> 04:23.770
[SPEAKER_02]: I ain't get it.
04:24.030 --> 04:26.731
[SPEAKER_02]: You ain't go to a let a dream game where you was down there.
04:26.891 --> 04:28.412
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they played a home game or not.
04:28.432 --> 04:31.074
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I probably didn't do.
04:31.554 --> 04:32.875
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I went and do that, man.
04:32.895 --> 04:35.016
[SPEAKER_03]: We was, we was all over the place, bro.
04:35.036 --> 04:37.337
[SPEAKER_03]: But I am, I'm, that's another thing.
04:37.377 --> 04:42.320
[SPEAKER_03]: Side note, that's why we, I, it took me to trip to realize like, we're actually back in action.
04:42.340 --> 04:43.101
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a sex dream.
04:43.521 --> 04:44.962
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, I think it was Monday.
04:45.382 --> 04:48.423
[SPEAKER_03]: Like yo, I'm tripping like I'm seeing her trying to figure out what our schedule is.
04:48.823 --> 04:50.303
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we really back in the mix.
04:50.843 --> 04:52.464
[SPEAKER_03]: So another administrator item.
04:52.484 --> 04:56.945
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we're here Tuesday, Thursdays and back on our post game recap.
04:57.265 --> 05:01.406
[SPEAKER_03]: So after the the Lions game one Saturday will be here.
05:02.106 --> 05:04.086
[SPEAKER_03]: We have another show on Thursday.
05:04.947 --> 05:07.187
[SPEAKER_03]: Yo, yo, yo, one.
05:08.327 --> 05:09.048
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, put it this way.
05:09.088 --> 05:10.888
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a show that's very important.
05:11.907 --> 05:17.011
[SPEAKER_03]: Jim, Sam, for y'all that wasn't y'all a question's answer about what's been going on.
05:18.472 --> 05:25.277
[SPEAKER_03]: Get you, get you drink together, you know, I also, I always said like, I was going, I was going to talk about some things and I was in a good space.
05:27.198 --> 05:33.502
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll never be in a good space, but you know, I feel good enough to talk about what's going on.
05:33.543 --> 05:36.405
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's ask some fun, but not,
05:38.392 --> 05:39.193
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a good show.
05:39.553 --> 05:42.575
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, we're back on our regular, regular flow.
05:42.855 --> 05:44.577
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm happy for it.
05:44.797 --> 05:50.962
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I know everybody's been thinking about, just like, what is a regular schedule here?
05:51.102 --> 05:54.564
[SPEAKER_03]: Over here has been kind of wacky, but now we're back logged in.
05:55.425 --> 05:56.506
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
05:57.366 --> 06:04.492
[SPEAKER_03]: So like I said, George is gonna be joining the shortly, but in the meantime, and I think we've had a few nuggets that came out.
06:05.940 --> 06:13.643
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, one since the game ended, but also we have some things that's happening, like during the game where we, you know, we got some questions.
06:13.663 --> 06:18.484
[SPEAKER_03]: I did see for what, um, mentioned that the 24 draft class.
06:19.745 --> 06:27.127
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, let's, let's kind of get like, what were you thinking about with the game.
06:27.207 --> 06:29.808
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just get a floor and and we can count on just.
06:35.603 --> 06:39.746
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think there's going to be a lot of conversations with the defense, but what do you think about how out of office came out?
06:39.766 --> 06:42.427
[SPEAKER_03]: The the people that's important to the team this year.
06:43.908 --> 06:51.413
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, first of all, it's when it comes to the offense, it was very disappointing to see Mario to go down as early as he did.
06:51.493 --> 06:55.835
[SPEAKER_02]: Like as soon as that happened, I'm like, man, we are not going to be able to evaluate the received this properly.
06:55.855 --> 07:00.178
[SPEAKER_02]: It is me because Sam art becomes right in the game and he looked like.
07:00.538 --> 07:12.969
[SPEAKER_02]: he didn't get one ounce of better in his third year to leave now going on or did this vs third year in the league and he just still looks like Sam Hartman out of Notre Dame like he didn't look like he's developed any bit.
07:13.030 --> 07:20.977
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know last year that was this excuse that he had some shoulder surgery on this throwing shoulder last year and people were trying to say, well, you know, he was recovered from that, but
07:21.297 --> 07:22.318
[SPEAKER_02]: this year ain't no excuse.
07:22.378 --> 07:23.159
[SPEAKER_02]: No surgery.
07:23.299 --> 07:27.382
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just felt like it was unfair to kind of evoke the way some of those receivers.
07:27.442 --> 07:29.463
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, more you, I'm sure you looked at the film.
07:29.483 --> 07:33.106
[SPEAKER_02]: You could talk about, you know, whether some guys were open or not the door to game.
07:33.186 --> 07:34.807
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, that was my play.
07:34.827 --> 07:36.269
[SPEAKER_02]: That was their look was open on it.
07:36.289 --> 07:38.250
[SPEAKER_02]: He just those interception and a clean pocket.
07:38.470 --> 07:40.992
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was kind of hard to see for next standpoint.
07:41.613 --> 07:48.218
[SPEAKER_02]: But what we've said, it was the deceit-a-run game look as good as a data, especially with K-tron Allen and then my surprise,
07:51.260 --> 07:54.984
[SPEAKER_02]: If you would ask me before training camp, you know, who were the top four running back?
07:55.004 --> 07:59.269
[SPEAKER_02]: So who's in that mix out of the name every running back on the roster except Robin, every junior?
07:59.750 --> 08:03.674
[SPEAKER_02]: I came out of that game saying damn, this guy might actually have to make the roster.
08:03.814 --> 08:06.157
[SPEAKER_02]: And as we got to tell you about earlier, it's getting clear.
08:06.657 --> 08:11.559
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, as far as they're at him, this is probably what they're running back because drone 4 is on IR.
08:12.959 --> 08:25.143
[SPEAKER_03]: No word on like the extent of the IR, whether it's short term or long term, but at the same time, you got put on IR immediately after the game is over, even then when acknowledged like he got hurt in the game.
08:25.963 --> 08:27.124
[SPEAKER_03]: But him being put on IR,
08:28.430 --> 08:29.751
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, he's the race downs.
08:29.791 --> 08:31.271
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Craig Reynolds was signed.
08:32.052 --> 08:36.414
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I mean, Craig Reynolds, I actually remember the name, he's been around.
08:36.894 --> 08:43.657
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, that is a person that should be viewed as a campbody, not in a disrespectful way to him.
08:44.478 --> 08:47.279
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you could use this to plateau yourself to enough to act at roster.
08:47.519 --> 08:50.380
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, that's not a shot to him.
08:50.881 --> 08:53.142
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, I think the race does come down to
08:54.042 --> 08:59.882
[SPEAKER_03]: make nickels and Robert Henry fall like that for four run-and-banks by it.
09:01.185 --> 09:14.231
[SPEAKER_03]: And I felt it was crazy that they put forward on the IR just so quickly, because Nick was his already missed, honestly, extensive time, he's missed something, extensive time.
09:14.271 --> 09:15.692
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have to put him on IR.
09:16.172 --> 09:25.836
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm actually curious to see how this is going to unfold, because I know they like, they maybe love me, Nick was like, he was a very effective running back when he got
09:31.202 --> 09:40.514
[SPEAKER_03]: have this opportunity for Henry to start the season off as maybe a specialist and just see what he does.
09:40.594 --> 09:46.221
[SPEAKER_03]: I just play primarily special things and see what he does or like they make just try to stash them on a practice line.
09:46.482 --> 09:47.363
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to over
09:48.579 --> 09:56.948
[SPEAKER_03]: emphasize his important his importance as a rookie like that's kind of the mistake a lot of people fall into when they find these uncover gems.
09:57.469 --> 10:04.957
[SPEAKER_03]: So like they may not be thinking that far down but I think the biggest thing is trying to understand how hurt is Jeremy Mignacles.
10:06.106 --> 10:20.686
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing where you talk about Jerome Ford obviously he's on IR and when you get put on an IR before the season starts before cuts are made you can't come off IR like you're on IR for the rest of the season so Jerome Ford's not an option anymore so now it comes down to
10:21.387 --> 10:23.790
[SPEAKER_02]: the four running on the five running backs for four spots.
10:23.870 --> 10:27.935
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think we can pretty much say three of those are solidified.
10:28.175 --> 10:29.497
[SPEAKER_02]: I think K-Tron out in the safe.
10:29.958 --> 10:32.841
[SPEAKER_02]: But as you mentioned, all as McNickles and it's going to be in Henry now.
10:33.262 --> 10:39.589
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, as I mentioned to you earlier, with McNickles being hurt, I think this is an opportunity for them to say,
10:40.170 --> 10:58.341
[SPEAKER_02]: We can keep him once we make our cuts, we can put him on the short time or term I are, you know, let him rest up here a lot for a couple of weeks and maybe that's the chance the Robin Henry needs and maybe, you know, they'll give him some chances at some point because as we know, I mean, do those don't stay healthy for the whole season, especially to run it back position, it's gonna be nicks and bruises, guys, gonna miss games.
10:59.302 --> 11:02.546
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're going to have to use five of those guys at some point this season.
11:02.766 --> 11:14.939
[SPEAKER_02]: The only question is, would a Robert Henry, if he keeps showing out like this does he make it to the practice club, like do you feel safe enough to make the practice what was a journey, but Nick was man, I don't think he makes a practice what I think he has a place in the league.
11:14.959 --> 11:16.560
[SPEAKER_02]: He's proven that he's proven that here.
11:16.600 --> 11:17.101
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I said.
11:17.141 --> 11:18.603
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they would like to get rid of them.
11:19.123 --> 11:26.165
[SPEAKER_02]: but I do see Robert Henry's path becoming a little bit clearer, especially with Nick Nichols injury, because Nick Nichols may not be ready to start to season.
11:26.185 --> 11:31.306
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Henry can kind of slide up in there and maybe he'll get a chance to prove himself in one way or another.
11:32.046 --> 11:33.447
[SPEAKER_02]: But I love what I saw out of him.
11:33.747 --> 11:37.888
[SPEAKER_02]: So, me, he was kind of like, you know, which would you expect out of a bill on office?
11:37.908 --> 11:42.549
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he has that burst, he has that acceleration, whereas the K-Tron Allen offered a different thing.
11:42.569 --> 11:44.490
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're two different run-in-bass K-Tron Halley.
11:44.510 --> 11:45.730
[SPEAKER_02]: He's shifty, he's slow.
11:46.110 --> 11:51.373
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, he gets those tough yards and he finds those little, you know, holds the squeeze through.
11:51.413 --> 12:00.038
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, he looked good out there to run game as a whole look good, you know, kind of moving on with the rest of the offense, the office and win.
12:01.092 --> 12:03.834
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Brandon Coleman, he looked good, right?
12:04.014 --> 12:07.297
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was like, yeah, I thought he looked pretty nice with the left tackle.
12:07.677 --> 12:09.119
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so he has some really good reps.
12:09.159 --> 12:15.724
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, Coleman, he had some, I can't remember who number nine is, man.
12:15.864 --> 12:16.405
[SPEAKER_03]: I like them.
12:16.445 --> 12:18.466
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he came from Atlanta if I'm not mistaken, too.
12:18.927 --> 12:20.268
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's a number nine.
12:20.868 --> 12:49.342
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think number number nine, I forgot his last name, but it's I'm drawing a blank one right now, but him, he went up against job Robinson, people who are expected to play something this is your time with Miami, but chop gave him the speed rushes and Coleman, like I just like something as reps man, he was under control, he got the foot quickness like cut off the rush path a few times and was able to really get in the paint with job Robinson and like what really stood out.
12:50.282 --> 13:03.892
[SPEAKER_03]: And those are gamers and grandnets, shop is a little bit on the smaller side in the sense, but like, well, really got me with those engagements, this is like seeing his, like, grip strength when he's engaged, like his actual, like, four steady uses his violence.
13:04.473 --> 13:12.238
[SPEAKER_03]: When he does get contact on those wrestlers, but then just being able to, like, actually physically control the engagement.
13:12.279 --> 13:15.301
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't really give up too much ground at all in past protection.
13:16.121 --> 13:17.883
[SPEAKER_03]: He had a couple of good run reps as well, but
13:18.523 --> 13:33.247
[SPEAKER_03]: I think obviously what we all want to know is about protecting Jaden Daniels and I think Brandon Coleman for limited reps he's actually been he actually had a really strong start post
13:36.416 --> 13:48.539
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what you wanted to see from a brand of Coleman to go out there and give out that strong start because at least at the end of the day, you're probably going to be good to left tap, well, I mean, Granny, he's no longer replace Larry Thompson or what he brings.
13:48.559 --> 13:54.521
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you could just be better than your rookie year, brand of Coleman, you know, because he wasn't bad as rookie year.
13:54.541 --> 13:56.681
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he could be better than that, you're fine over there.
13:57.122 --> 14:02.123
[SPEAKER_02]: Then the question comes with a Chris Paul, like, you know, as Chris Paul, going to be a starred caliber left guard this year.
14:02.643 --> 14:05.285
[SPEAKER_02]: How's that sent us by we got I would ready back this week.
14:05.385 --> 14:22.875
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know he's on a snap count on a pitch count right now, but he's working his way there, but we still don't know if I'm a graduate is a starting count of the center at this point, which kind of leads you to Julian good Jones, who I don't think he looks too good when he and whenever he's out there, but then what about the rookie gobin?
14:23.235 --> 14:28.838
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I thought he looked pretty decent out there, Granny, he's going to get second at third string guys, but maybe he's working his way up the
14:32.522 --> 14:42.450
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, go Ben, I go Ben was was good, but and what I thought was really impressive was like his work when he's uncovered.
14:42.490 --> 14:51.657
[SPEAKER_03]: So I get past protection when you snap in, you see that front kind of open up like they they start occupying the guards and attackers like
14:52.397 --> 14:59.721
[SPEAKER_03]: his post snap process and like snaps and he starts looking for people to put on the edge and that's a good thing.
15:00.702 --> 15:14.970
[SPEAKER_03]: But like generally from a black standpoint, where he moves, he moves slow out there and and and I don't know just how, um, ready, he would be for like starting quality snaps.
15:15.410 --> 15:18.151
[SPEAKER_03]: Now again, that's jumping in gun because I think he is better than
15:21.394 --> 15:26.638
[SPEAKER_03]: I would definitely have him as your back of as opposed to like, even pushing for starting ribs.
15:27.138 --> 15:29.299
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think it's interesting to try to put him at guard.
15:30.520 --> 15:31.941
[SPEAKER_03]: And just testing them out there.
15:32.762 --> 15:33.982
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that's an issue at all.
15:34.042 --> 15:38.365
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more so think it's like actually even seeing like where his flexibility lies, right?
15:39.746 --> 15:40.186
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah.
15:41.307 --> 15:55.392
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's like a given take, it's like, I wonder how much he can put on his plate life from being able to execute mentally, but also like having to have legic ability to really get an opinion and like meet your marks.
15:55.692 --> 16:01.394
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying he can't, but like that's just something I know this and I would like to follow him through us at his free season.
16:02.314 --> 16:10.582
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me ask you this while we're on a subject off as a lab where you surprise the Josh Connolly didn't play like they said them like, you know, he didn't need the game like where you surprised about it.
16:10.862 --> 16:14.586
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, well, I'm going to be a full transparent transparency.
16:14.606 --> 16:15.727
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I know I went to Atlanta.
16:16.147 --> 16:24.235
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so before I, I did watch the game, but I was very much already on my 13th club of alcohol.
16:24.755 --> 16:27.518
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I know what kind of all that was that night.
16:29.293 --> 16:46.703
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's funny because when I tweeted initially Nicky with Javala, she and it's nothing wrong, she just put out because she said it's like her observations of when the veterans are practicing on the field, those are indication of who's not playing so initially Josh currently wasn't out there in the current terms of the list that she named.
16:47.978 --> 16:53.823
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so like I thought that he was playing until your question, I am surprised that he didn't blame.
16:54.724 --> 17:01.309
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I think it's interesting to like, if you have Brandon Coleman out there, uh, Chris Paul.
17:03.371 --> 17:06.553
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't have Sam Crosby or the right side.
17:06.573 --> 17:16.079
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically the right side wasn't there, but I do think at the very least, you gotta get some work I did for them.
17:16.499 --> 17:25.845
[SPEAKER_03]: And also based the question for like, what kind of move around with the office a little bit more, but if that's the question about just generally
17:27.148 --> 17:36.756
[SPEAKER_03]: playing certain people, because the conversation about Jaden Danes has come up and like I think about how Cincinnati does things traditionally with Joe Burrow.
17:37.216 --> 17:39.738
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Joe Burrow is on the field in preseason.
17:39.878 --> 17:41.599
[SPEAKER_03]: Jamar Chase is on the field in preseason.
17:41.619 --> 17:43.101
[SPEAKER_03]: See Higgins is on the field in preseason.
17:44.061 --> 17:45.542
[SPEAKER_03]: Pat my home's last year.
17:45.562 --> 17:48.763
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he played in the third preseason game for like two two quarters.
17:48.883 --> 17:49.863
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe two and a half quarters.
17:50.303 --> 17:58.866
[SPEAKER_03]: If I'm not mistaken, and if it wasn't that third game, I know he played in the third game, but if it wasn't that third game, he played like two and a half three quarters in the second game.
17:59.166 --> 18:01.287
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they get extensive amount of time.
18:02.307 --> 18:10.790
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the joint practices are good, but like that break between third preseason game the week one.
18:11.748 --> 18:15.189
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll put them people on the field by, and, and, and, and.
18:16.848 --> 18:23.071
[SPEAKER_03]: that being scared to injury thing like that made me from a fan base perspective, but at the end of the day, work is working.
18:23.091 --> 18:24.772
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the risk that comes with this job.
18:24.852 --> 18:27.853
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, I will never ever say you shouldn't keep nobody off the field.
18:27.873 --> 18:32.176
[SPEAKER_03]: If you believe in getting in work, like if you think, if you think that's the case, I will never say that.
18:32.436 --> 18:33.876
[SPEAKER_03]: Would I be upset if somebody gets hurt?
18:34.277 --> 18:36.137
[SPEAKER_03]: Drey, yes, I will be upset.
18:36.418 --> 18:40.420
[SPEAKER_03]: I will be upset and okay, if you keep them in there longer than they should, that's one thing.
18:40.920 --> 18:44.982
[SPEAKER_03]: But like I would never, I would never get upset if somebody gets hurt playing football.
18:45.502 --> 18:49.564
[SPEAKER_03]: like actually at a person generally speaking.
18:49.604 --> 19:03.792
[SPEAKER_03]: So get him out there and I think to Josh Connelly's point, he should have been out there and I don't doubt that they 100% will probably, they will 100% will play him against Detroit.
19:04.827 --> 19:10.028
[SPEAKER_02]: As you heard, that's why I act small because I'm like, well, it actually surprised me.
19:10.088 --> 19:18.190
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I started a question in Artie at the point with Josh Connelly where they're really comfortable with what they're seeing out of him that he doesn't need to work.
19:18.290 --> 19:25.511
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a good thing if so, but at the same time, I feel like Josh Connelly has improved anything in the league yet as far as like where he stands.
19:25.571 --> 19:34.333
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think he got better as the year one all last year, but I don't think he's so litified himself as, you know, some kind of upper echelon right tackle in his league or anything.
19:34.833 --> 19:36.374
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're hoping to see out of him.
19:36.755 --> 19:38.316
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, they're seeing it again.
19:38.456 --> 19:39.477
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't been in training camp.
19:39.557 --> 19:44.060
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a paid a lot of attention to the office of a lot in this all season, but if they're seeing it, that's cool.
19:44.080 --> 19:48.223
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, you still, he's at a age where he can use that type of work.
19:48.323 --> 19:53.728
[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully he is out there against Detroit this week, along with Jaden Daniels and a lot of other players.
19:53.748 --> 19:57.050
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm in the boat that I do want to see them go out there and get the work.
19:57.150 --> 19:58.011
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I get it.
19:58.491 --> 19:59.532
[SPEAKER_02]: foot of Miami game.
19:59.552 --> 20:00.753
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a joint practice.
20:00.793 --> 20:04.135
[SPEAKER_02]: Those guys got a lot of reps against a different team in practice.
20:04.155 --> 20:05.035
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to see that.
20:05.316 --> 20:07.617
[SPEAKER_02]: But this week against Detroit, there's no joint practice.
20:08.318 --> 20:13.901
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a good opportunity if you only want to play those starters or some of those starters for one preseason game this season.
20:14.281 --> 20:20.145
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is especially a Detroit's going to go out there and play those guys because as we know with Detroit, that's a playoff caliber roster.
20:20.205 --> 20:23.808
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they just didn't have a good year last year, but that's still a playoff caliber roster.
20:24.108 --> 20:25.008
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they're going to play to
20:26.109 --> 20:32.651
[SPEAKER_02]: the go out there and get out and start us some work and get those guys and see how you kind of measure enough against one of the conferences best team.
20:32.691 --> 20:41.053
[SPEAKER_02]: So I hope Jayden's out there, even if it's full of series two series, whatever, and that's the last bit of work he gets for the preseason, but I do think they need that work.
20:41.333 --> 20:47.294
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like I just remember growing up watching preseason back in a day where it was approach the way I'd differently.
20:47.414 --> 20:47.994
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I get it.
20:48.034 --> 20:52.955
[SPEAKER_02]: We in a different place, we had a different time, you know, you want to focus on, you know, keep me at play as healthy
20:55.936 --> 21:00.738
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they even like you said with a, my homes and you read, I think my homes plays them.
21:00.758 --> 21:03.879
[SPEAKER_02]: They're almost every preseason game, you know, year and a year.
21:03.980 --> 21:07.901
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't completely gain one this year, but pretty sure he'll be out there this week.
21:08.181 --> 21:15.465
[SPEAKER_02]: But Andy reading them, they believe a plan those guys and most of the great coaches that I knew when I was growing up, they believe the plan they guys are preseason.
21:15.485 --> 21:16.085
[SPEAKER_03]: Another check.
21:16.685 --> 21:18.386
[SPEAKER_03]: Worked the shit avatar.
21:18.446 --> 21:19.387
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and crazy.
21:19.427 --> 21:19.707
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:20.247 --> 21:20.808
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Gibbs.
21:20.848 --> 21:22.168
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe gives you to do it on time.
21:22.188 --> 21:24.110
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Gibbs played his guys in preseason.
21:24.170 --> 21:26.771
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, you can't be too scared of injuries.
21:27.211 --> 21:29.873
[SPEAKER_02]: Get those guys so work because you can get injured in any time.
21:29.893 --> 21:30.854
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get injured in practice.
21:30.874 --> 21:32.635
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get injured regular season, whatever.
21:32.675 --> 21:35.136
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's going to happen, it's going to happen, but you can't cope scared.
21:35.516 --> 21:36.457
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't place gear.
21:36.517 --> 21:44.922
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think it would be a good opportunity to get somebody to start us on work, especially if this is going to be the last bit of work they get like real serious work for a rest of preseason.
21:45.622 --> 21:47.150
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, let's get set aside, it is.
21:47.814 --> 21:48.055
[SPEAKER_03]: Um...
21:49.293 --> 21:57.376
[SPEAKER_03]: Ben, Senate, Carlson, Yankoff, I'll start with the good, Ben, Senate really active in the run game.
21:58.197 --> 22:08.161
[SPEAKER_03]: I like like how he's angling himself in the run game and just setting these seals on the edge, but also getting busy on the second level too.
22:08.281 --> 22:16.864
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are some things that's impressive with with Ben just like having the IQ from a post snap standpoint of just knowing where he needs to be.
22:19.145 --> 22:47.874
[SPEAKER_03]: Even as in the past game, like he knows he knows where he has to be and I think what really helps him And you seen it in that first game is is just seeing how that boot action Like what's been popular in terms of this all season and even in training camp is them saying the quarterbacks back towards the defense like it's Standard Like football and West Coast games and just like a lot of boot action all fences and things like that who emphasize that type of play action
22:48.514 --> 23:05.114
[SPEAKER_03]: But like been sitting in the past game is going to thrive when he can slip past the defense when he get past that second level or when he can get underneath that first level when the eye can't do it's taking over the defense and being something where the run game is respected.
23:05.675 --> 23:08.158
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also think yank off.
23:09.372 --> 23:17.438
[SPEAKER_03]: is a little bit more athletic and how he runs his routes, how he gets to his marks.
23:18.218 --> 23:21.881
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think, Yanko, I'm not super impressed with him in the run game.
23:21.921 --> 23:23.382
[SPEAKER_03]: He is active in willing.
23:23.802 --> 23:25.203
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not a joy to read out there.
23:25.703 --> 23:30.627
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he gets busy in the run game, but he's not super impressive in that standpoint.
23:31.207 --> 23:32.208
[SPEAKER_03]: I would like to see more.
23:33.467 --> 23:40.294
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like he's bad, but like where he shines, it's how he runs his routes and how he gets to his marks.
23:40.314 --> 23:41.315
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not super athletic.
23:41.355 --> 23:55.129
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's not super nuanced in terms of his route details and how he sets up his routes and how he wins in that nature, but from a comparison standpoint, that's where I think there's a distinction and he uses the distinction between Ben and Cowson.
23:57.467 --> 24:06.111
[SPEAKER_03]: But like Ben still, if there's no play action like Ben is still struggling to separate, like, it's just not what he does, bro.
24:06.191 --> 24:11.653
[SPEAKER_03]: And and even after the catch, like, I don't see somebody that can really create.
24:12.485 --> 24:15.387
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he made break a taco with two, I wrong with that.
24:15.568 --> 24:25.135
[SPEAKER_03]: But I just don't see it in that the only reason why that's super important to me, even moving forward is just like knowing what you've got in the second round.
24:25.155 --> 24:31.640
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's gonna be a large conversation this year, Brad, Mike Sanversdale, Johnny Newton, Ben Sineat.
24:32.860 --> 24:38.406
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I'm missing somebody, but 99 draft plans, but yeah, that's on.
24:38.426 --> 24:39.507
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, oh, my God.
24:39.527 --> 24:39.928
[SPEAKER_03]: Tram.
24:39.948 --> 24:40.168
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
24:40.468 --> 24:42.270
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's going to be a large conversation.
24:42.330 --> 24:42.791
[SPEAKER_03]: It's your bread.
24:42.811 --> 24:43.511
[SPEAKER_03]: Tram was just heard.
24:44.477 --> 24:45.918
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, any muscle concern now.
24:46.398 --> 24:59.046
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember before we worked as a child, but I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know because, you know, I did say that, but we was also talking about another injury, not that, not the ankle, that's true, so am I concerned?
24:59.326 --> 25:01.347
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but why am I concerned?
25:01.647 --> 25:03.028
[SPEAKER_03]: It's more, like, can't say healthy.
25:03.268 --> 25:04.849
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's why I'm concerned.
25:05.370 --> 25:10.993
[SPEAKER_03]: So, but to that point, um, before we get Georgian, yeah, like, what do you think about the, the tight answer, man?
25:11.033 --> 25:12.234
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm, I'm just a little
25:13.303 --> 25:14.104
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm interested here.
25:14.664 --> 25:21.828
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I look at the tight end position almost kind of how we talk about the running back position and where we got a bunch of different guys that do different things.
25:21.868 --> 25:29.193
[SPEAKER_02]: They I think they have different roles and I think what you see would have been Senate down as you're seeing him start to carve out a role in the office now.
25:29.313 --> 25:31.254
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's ever going to be a vertical threat.
25:31.694 --> 25:46.481
[SPEAKER_02]: and this lead, but I always say what's a Ben Senate, I mean, you got to find kind of that H-back role form, you know, that kind of Chris Kooley role form, what he can sometimes, you know, run routes out of the back field and he can get the block in, you know, as a lead block or sometimes for a running back.
25:46.841 --> 25:52.644
[SPEAKER_02]: And in a couple of times, he's going to catch the ball and he's going to be able to make a play with the ball, but I don't think you'll ever see a vertical threat.
25:52.684 --> 25:57.006
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you'll ever see a guy that's going to be a threat as far as like we got a game plan
26:00.728 --> 26:04.711
[SPEAKER_02]: But you have other tyrants that do that chiever comfortable.
26:04.791 --> 26:06.131
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's going to be a yet guy.
26:06.732 --> 26:11.555
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, closing ankle, as you mentioned, he's kind of the inverse of Ben Senate.
26:11.595 --> 26:13.036
[SPEAKER_02]: He's more of the receiving threat.
26:13.056 --> 26:16.498
[SPEAKER_02]: He's more the vertical threat like he's the route runner of the tyrant group.
26:17.198 --> 26:21.161
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and didn't they decide do we have, um, I got cash here.
26:22.182 --> 26:27.906
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Kasia, yeah, he gets some burn, but I mean, I'm not sure, you know, if he's, you know, going to make the roster, I don't know how many tight ends.
26:28.246 --> 26:29.907
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, John, that's who I'm missing John.
26:30.147 --> 26:31.808
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, obviously he's been hurt.
26:32.188 --> 26:35.270
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's been hurt, but he's back, but John Bates is your black and tight.
26:35.290 --> 26:37.792
[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the best black and tight ends in the league that is.
26:37.852 --> 26:39.953
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I look at the tight end room.
26:40.454 --> 26:47.118
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, again, Vincent may never live up to that second round pick or at least the value of what you consider the second round pick, but if he.
26:47.158 --> 26:51.762
[SPEAKER_02]: can carve out a role in a league, you know, or at least a role in his team.
26:51.922 --> 27:04.133
[SPEAKER_02]: Even with, you know, not to say a role as John Bates, but if he can have a similar level of impact that John Bates has on the team, that's gonna be worth it to us because he is value, but you're gonna wanna keep that type of play around.
27:04.593 --> 27:09.177
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, it just adds to the overall room with a lot of different guys, don't know a lot of different things.
27:09.237 --> 27:10.979
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, it's just like they're running back to them.
27:10.999 --> 27:12.320
[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think there's potential.
27:12.740 --> 27:13.540
[SPEAKER_02]: in a tight air room.
27:13.580 --> 27:16.322
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it may be a lot better than some of us expected at the beat.
27:16.482 --> 27:20.883
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we kind of just talked about Chica Concule all all season, like that's the guy we're excited about.
27:21.224 --> 27:25.865
[SPEAKER_02]: But you have more talent in their room that can do different things, all of them kind of compliment each other.
27:25.885 --> 27:29.407
[SPEAKER_02]: So let me interesting to see how those roles are established, don't it season?
27:29.427 --> 27:33.529
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how many tight ins does David Blau use when he's game planning?
27:33.549 --> 27:35.670
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I mean, are we going to see a lot of heavy personnel?
27:36.110 --> 27:38.571
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, in game days, that's going to be really interesting to me.
27:38.591 --> 27:41.512
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think there's talent there to do different things with those guys.
27:43.108 --> 27:45.148
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, it's also one of the reasons.
27:45.209 --> 27:46.649
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's keep emphasizing this.
27:46.709 --> 27:50.290
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this tight end row no matter how you feel about any of them.
27:51.090 --> 28:03.653
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I feel the way I feel, but no matter how you feel about any of them, uh, to somewhat Jay Tissie's point, uh, this offense will be able to scheme these tight ends up not granted.
28:04.593 --> 28:06.833
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we want to have a conversation about Ben.
28:07.774 --> 28:08.354
[SPEAKER_03]: We can do that.
28:08.854 --> 28:09.034
[SPEAKER_03]: But
28:10.338 --> 28:12.739
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not, I don't think you're wrong.
28:12.799 --> 28:14.739
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Titans do get skinned open a lot.
28:15.440 --> 28:30.264
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think this offense, if you can bring in the right athletes, a combo of the right athletes, but also like utility guys, you know, as long as they can play both ways, run it back and I was running back.
28:30.284 --> 28:32.165
[SPEAKER_03]: Excuse me, run game and receive a game.
28:32.605 --> 28:37.486
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can really get some, some really some real work done from the Titans standpoint.
28:39.883 --> 28:41.143
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's continue this conversation.
28:43.584 --> 28:45.044
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get back to the offense in a second.
28:45.124 --> 28:54.866
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get to the defense and continue this conversation here with George Carme and like I said, Doug can join us a day.
28:55.386 --> 28:58.486
[SPEAKER_03]: But we still got half of the big Doug and George Carme show man.
28:58.566 --> 28:59.687
[SPEAKER_03]: George, you know, boss man, a long time.
28:59.707 --> 29:07.268
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
29:07.697 --> 29:11.363
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you feel if it's two people in danger?
29:11.403 --> 29:12.885
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I gotta hold it down, man.
29:13.186 --> 29:13.907
[SPEAKER_03]: It's there, man.
29:14.408 --> 29:17.713
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I think, when we think about,
29:21.706 --> 29:42.756
[SPEAKER_03]: The defense, I don't know you've been backstage for a conversation and you've got to feel, we don't have to feel a Georgian, but when you think about the defense George and how things have unfolded one through training camp, but also just like what you were able to see from some of the some of the important guys and the preseason game like is it
29:44.822 --> 29:58.535
[SPEAKER_03]: plausible to feel concerned about anybody in particular, or are you more so focused on like the body of work as preseason and training camp, like, comes along.
29:59.590 --> 30:00.851
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a deeper conversation.
30:00.871 --> 30:01.792
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys were on top of it.
30:01.812 --> 30:03.413
[SPEAKER_00]: I walked in and heard a great conversation.
30:03.433 --> 30:06.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Washington, I think the scheming is going to be a lot better.
30:06.515 --> 30:10.478
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be more dictating more of a hammer as opposed to the nail that we salvage it with.
30:10.498 --> 30:20.166
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you would have that cover three defense, whereas more reactive, more observant kind of reacting to what the offense was doing, with Drought Day Jones going to be more attacking than you get more of a field.
30:20.886 --> 30:25.529
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are some concerns with some people, but not with other people, not tell you why in a second, right?
30:25.569 --> 30:29.672
[SPEAKER_00]: So, we're talking about trade, I think, I'll just get you all to say this.
30:30.032 --> 30:31.193
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm concerned about trade.
30:31.253 --> 30:32.714
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he had that injury.
30:32.974 --> 30:35.335
[SPEAKER_00]: He's only practiced for one hour, all preseason.
30:35.375 --> 30:36.116
[SPEAKER_00]: It has one hour.
30:36.296 --> 30:37.117
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one hour.
30:37.157 --> 30:39.518
[SPEAKER_00]: He came up with a world practice for one hour and left.
30:39.778 --> 30:40.319
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
30:40.339 --> 30:41.539
[SPEAKER_00]: He has an entire all season.
30:41.860 --> 30:43.721
[SPEAKER_00]: He only played 10 games last year.
30:44.101 --> 30:45.782
[SPEAKER_00]: If people are already, people love him.
30:45.802 --> 30:46.703
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he has that swag.
30:46.723 --> 30:47.343
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a good guy.
30:47.383 --> 30:48.044
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a good guy.
30:48.744 --> 30:50.125
[SPEAKER_00]: have a chance about all of them.
30:50.145 --> 30:53.308
[SPEAKER_00]: So people like his CV one off the break, but they already think he's going to be a CV one.
30:53.768 --> 30:55.990
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact of the matter is he played 10 games last year.
30:56.010 --> 30:59.433
[SPEAKER_00]: The first couple games weren't even that strong, but he started to get hot as a year or not.
30:59.994 --> 31:00.474
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like him.
31:00.514 --> 31:01.315
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a good player.
31:01.335 --> 31:04.878
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has potential, but he has to prove we haven't seen anything at the next level yet.
31:05.158 --> 31:07.420
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I don't know where he's going to go where he's going to be.
31:07.820 --> 31:13.502
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to benefit from you practice, and you need to get some synergy in that corner bathroom.
31:13.522 --> 31:18.584
[SPEAKER_00]: We had on Thor and I saw a couple of weeks ago that I don't know, he's a Minnesota Vikings insider.
31:18.944 --> 31:28.027
[SPEAKER_00]: He was telling us, he was a girl, the Brian Flora as he fends his awesome, it's aggressive, it's attacking, it's very, you know, it's going to set the tone, but you guys are telling us, he was a girl.
31:28.407 --> 31:29.869
[SPEAKER_00]: to expect a learning curve.
31:29.929 --> 31:33.452
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something that you do either hit it off the first week in a very, very strong.
31:33.492 --> 31:35.494
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something that, like, get the half communication.
31:35.514 --> 31:37.416
[SPEAKER_00]: There's anything some breakdowns can be really aggressive.
31:37.697 --> 31:39.499
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you don't have that, there's a flaw in it.
31:39.619 --> 31:42.281
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think aim at someone a little bit concerned about him.
31:42.842 --> 31:45.485
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the sunny styles hype about him being bad.
31:45.665 --> 31:46.626
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was overblown.
31:46.706 --> 31:48.868
[SPEAKER_00]: I would do all take a lovely year about what you guys think.
31:48.888 --> 31:49.229
[SPEAKER_00]: But like,
31:49.609 --> 31:54.836
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he played 13 plays, first game, green dot, you know, he's trying to get simply to the NFL game.
31:55.257 --> 31:56.018
[SPEAKER_00]: He did look tentative.
31:56.058 --> 31:57.259
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could have been more downhill.
31:57.279 --> 31:58.181
[SPEAKER_00]: Could have been more aggressive.
31:58.201 --> 31:58.862
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.
31:59.382 --> 32:00.844
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's who he is right now.
32:00.884 --> 32:06.292
[SPEAKER_00]: For those of you who have watched the tape, he was more of a safety as more of a past coverage lineback and isn't it coming to lead?
32:06.672 --> 32:10.795
[SPEAKER_00]: doing that very, very well, that run attack that take a lot of 300 pound offense alignment.
32:11.075 --> 32:12.176
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, it's the girl.
32:12.196 --> 32:13.256
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to that.
32:13.296 --> 32:15.818
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you smart enough is a good enough athlete do well.
32:15.838 --> 32:17.719
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to give him some grace on that.
32:18.360 --> 32:21.202
[SPEAKER_00]: And the last thing I'll say I'll throw back to y'all is the defense align.
32:21.342 --> 32:22.683
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the defense align was concerning.
32:23.203 --> 32:25.225
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they had shot Tuddle in there, they had Newton in there.
32:25.665 --> 32:27.027
[SPEAKER_00]: I want Newton to be something.
32:27.047 --> 32:34.514
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we obviously, you know, coming to that draft in 2024, you're supposed to be a first round pick and he fell in the second round, but, you know, we're not seeing that, right?
32:34.534 --> 32:38.818
[SPEAKER_00]: He's under size, a little bit short, he's more of a fast pressure, and they're this carving us up.
32:39.658 --> 32:41.921
[SPEAKER_00]: Granted, the dolphins had Devon HN out there.
32:41.941 --> 32:43.402
[SPEAKER_00]: They had a whole certain offense on there.
32:43.683 --> 32:46.225
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were basically putting this huge hole.
32:47.006 --> 32:48.848
[SPEAKER_00]: My big concern is Tim Settle.
32:48.888 --> 32:50.030
[SPEAKER_00]: He was supposed to be our nos tackle.
32:50.070 --> 32:53.934
[SPEAKER_00]: He's supposed to be that big plug in the middle, but he's a little bit injured now, too.
32:53.994 --> 32:54.194
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
32:54.685 --> 32:55.986
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going to happen with our D-Line?
32:56.066 --> 32:57.427
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of concerned about that.
32:57.527 --> 32:59.708
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's magic we have a month ago.
32:59.728 --> 33:00.808
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we have a month of the game stars.
33:00.828 --> 33:02.829
[SPEAKER_00]: But what are you all saying?
33:03.010 --> 33:07.452
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's start with Johnny and named get back to Sunny.
33:08.032 --> 33:09.193
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, let's work our way back.
33:09.373 --> 33:10.574
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it.
33:11.674 --> 33:16.797
[SPEAKER_03]: If you can't anchor as an interior defense alarming, you are hooked.
33:17.317 --> 33:17.577
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:17.758 --> 33:18.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Light.
33:19.019 --> 33:24.623
[SPEAKER_03]: You already limit yourself because you are expected to come in as a as a pass for a specialist at some point.
33:24.663 --> 33:31.268
[SPEAKER_03]: If you ain't if you're not getting no pressures and penetrating the pocket as a pass rusher, then we can't put you all around down.
33:31.328 --> 33:33.009
[SPEAKER_03]: We can't put you on first and second downs.
33:33.310 --> 33:37.973
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, unless you unless we up 20, we can we can use you any that we want.
33:38.413 --> 33:46.820
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I think what what really hurts him is is the fact that he hasn't been able to really find that technique that works for him.
33:49.173 --> 34:04.478
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, man, like, that's, that's just something where even when I think about the draft, he slid to the second round, people thought that this was a steal because I obviously performed at college, but then you think about, like,
34:05.642 --> 34:31.495
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it the, was it the foot injury that really close in the first year or did or did he did people actually see or project him and the pro level as somebody who couldn't do certain things and I don't know the answer I'm just saying like, you know, we people in the moment think one thing and rationalize it that way, but they don't think about like, what about the other evaluators out there that didn't take him.
34:31.862 --> 34:55.628
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's pretty point and and I don't know what it is with Johnny it like I got to see something like I wasn't even I put out a film session my my track my my stamp is out there I put out a film session on his on his his three set game against Dallas last year That didn't move me from how I thought about he's played so far And you're gonna go back and look at that if you're all the new to the channel, but I have no idea George
34:57.434 --> 35:04.641
[SPEAKER_03]: My bottom line is if you can't anchor in the right game and take one of these double teams, like you're going to be in trouble, especially as an interior defense line.
35:05.123 --> 35:05.803
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me throw one thing.
35:05.823 --> 35:06.223
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
35:06.243 --> 35:06.543
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
35:06.563 --> 35:07.463
[SPEAKER_00]: Jay wants to get on this, too.
35:08.324 --> 35:09.604
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to the game.
35:09.624 --> 35:13.004
[SPEAKER_00]: I was at the Delphine's game, drove back home, listen to Doc Walker and Linnell on the way home.
35:13.024 --> 35:14.045
[SPEAKER_00]: And Linnell brought up a good point.
35:14.065 --> 35:21.146
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, and kind of what you're saying, Jim, I was that basically, as a defensive lineman, your number one priority is to stop the run.
35:21.166 --> 35:22.846
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a past brush, that's more of a bonus.
35:22.866 --> 35:30.667
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are those elite at the next level player, like even Ron Rivera, you know, for all the criticism we give him, his saying was, you stopped the run on the way to the past.
35:34.848 --> 35:41.535
[SPEAKER_00]: And even as a little later, Pewey, you know, your defensive line, and you called the holes, and especially in a three, four that we have right now, he should be stopped on the market.
35:41.556 --> 35:43.678
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Johnny Newton's a fit for what we're trying to do.
35:43.738 --> 35:45.980
[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, I mean, I'm rooting for him, but that's the thing.
35:46.020 --> 35:48.263
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we don't just know, you're probably a great point.
35:48.343 --> 35:51.006
[SPEAKER_00]: Was he, did he get a poor e-bout of fall in the second round?
35:51.046 --> 35:52.908
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it just that planar, especially I just, we don't know.
35:54.005 --> 36:05.683
[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, this is Adam Pudus, most disappointing pick to this point because what a Johnny Newton at this point in time, I think you start to expect to see that grow fight of him or that leap out of him.
36:06.044 --> 36:09.189
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't even know if he has the pathway to do that right now, because I mean.
36:09.869 --> 36:13.131
[SPEAKER_02]: When Tim settled gets back, he's going to be pretty much the man in the middle.
36:13.571 --> 36:15.412
[SPEAKER_02]: The Ronald Payne's going to have a roll in there.
36:15.513 --> 36:17.574
[SPEAKER_02]: A man of you, he's going to have a roll in there.
36:18.114 --> 36:25.238
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're kind of looking at Newton as a rotation player at this point in this career, but is he going to be an impactful rotation player?
36:25.278 --> 36:27.900
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going to have a chance to live up to that second round pick?
36:28.280 --> 36:31.041
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the part I worry about with a Newton kind of living up to that.
36:31.101 --> 36:33.583
[SPEAKER_02]: The draft stat is, and it's disappointing because
36:34.063 --> 36:44.391
[SPEAKER_02]: We had three second round draft picks in the 20th year draft and he was the highest of all little second round picks and he was kind of so close as you all mentioned earlier that he could have been a first round pick.
36:44.431 --> 36:46.052
[SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to be a first round pick.
36:46.092 --> 36:47.973
[SPEAKER_02]: He slid to where he was.
36:48.013 --> 36:49.995
[SPEAKER_02]: So we kind of had higher expectations for him.
36:50.135 --> 36:50.795
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you get it.
36:50.835 --> 36:56.940
[SPEAKER_02]: He had the foot injuries, you know, when he came at two foot injury on both feet, you know, I mean, and he didn't really have an all season and
36:58.781 --> 37:06.203
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, there hasn't been growth in that's been a disciplined part, because what you've seen at Illinois was a disruptive player.
37:06.323 --> 37:08.684
[SPEAKER_02]: You see that guy that was able to get after the quarterback.
37:08.704 --> 37:12.465
[SPEAKER_02]: He was able to, I mean, then he went defensive player to here in the big tenet, you know?
37:12.525 --> 37:14.666
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was something like that up there in the big tenet.
37:14.726 --> 37:17.387
[SPEAKER_02]: He was one of the best players in the big tenet year.
37:17.567 --> 37:18.367
[SPEAKER_02]: That a great defense player too.
37:18.387 --> 37:20.028
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:20.108 --> 37:24.169
[SPEAKER_02]: Claw Martin and, well, during taking his Martin and, yeah, love he Smith, they played under
37:28.190 --> 37:31.234
[SPEAKER_02]: to this point, but you just haven't seen the growth for the leap.
37:31.294 --> 37:32.296
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's concerning to me.
37:32.316 --> 37:44.071
[SPEAKER_02]: And like I said to this point, that's probably Adam Peter's biggest disappointment, because at least with the other players, like even when we're talking about events in it, like Vincent, it has a pathway, I think right now, to have some kind of impact.
37:44.651 --> 37:48.093
[SPEAKER_02]: Mikey San Francisco is going to have that pathway because he's going to get a lot of opportunities.
37:48.113 --> 37:56.517
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in that rotation of cornerbacks, trade aim was whenever he comes back, he's going to be, if he can say help, he's going to be his pathway to be impactful.
37:56.837 --> 38:03.220
[SPEAKER_02]: But Johnny Newton, I just don't see the pathway and I also haven't seen evidence that he's ready to make an impact on the scene.
38:03.845 --> 38:05.006
[SPEAKER_00]: after it was open out real quick.
38:05.026 --> 38:10.531
[SPEAKER_00]: So two things, with that, I think the one that is the point with Johnny Newton is an opportunity to call us right.
38:10.551 --> 38:13.173
[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys remember, we traded back to accumulate more pits.
38:13.413 --> 38:16.936
[SPEAKER_00]: That could have been Cooper Degene and people were like, you know, we gave them to the Eagles.
38:16.956 --> 38:18.137
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to stand out here.
38:18.157 --> 38:19.839
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, say what you want about him.
38:19.859 --> 38:21.300
[SPEAKER_00]: He has a great defense of front and front of him.
38:21.340 --> 38:22.781
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why he's doing really well in Philadelphia.
38:22.801 --> 38:23.422
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's a great player.
38:23.442 --> 38:24.603
[SPEAKER_00]: He could have potentially had him.
38:25.243 --> 38:26.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I also posed a question on Twitter.
38:26.965 --> 38:27.165
[SPEAKER_00]: I love
38:29.967 --> 38:32.090
[SPEAKER_03]: Four months a person before before you get there.
38:32.390 --> 38:44.844
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget you don't forget your thought before you get there though Yeah, Washington also passed up on to laundry sweat Yeah, and I keep I keep talking about his like y'all wanted somebody who was a dog in the ring game
38:46.026 --> 38:51.534
[SPEAKER_03]: and or against the runners use me and and look at each other's and it's not a disrespect because he was really good in college.
38:51.574 --> 38:55.820
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more so saying like the guy that you really wanted was there you in the face.
38:55.840 --> 38:56.581
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so you want it.
38:57.122 --> 38:59.706
[SPEAKER_03]: You still got the same problem as you had two years three years ago.
39:01.947 --> 39:20.552
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my question was, would you trade Johnny Newton like I put that on Twitter on if you want to your thoughts on that like he's going to his third year like you know he has potential with a new adult defense coordinator he might have a little bit of value would you trade him for offensive line depth this kind of because we are concerned about that with our you know a left guard for
39:26.063 --> 39:26.543
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't.
39:26.964 --> 39:29.906
[SPEAKER_03]: I also think you brought up a good point and I'm mad.
39:29.926 --> 39:32.308
[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot about it, but some settles hurt.
39:32.348 --> 39:48.441
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, granted, they don't play the exact same position, but if Javankel all saying that everybody's moving all across the defensive line, you've got to be mindful that Johnny Newton is healthy right now, like he's playing and you want to make sure that you prioritize people like that who's available from a depth standpoint.
39:49.682 --> 40:03.717
[SPEAKER_03]: And also like you did bring a good point about office line depth, but I wouldn't treat him for office line depth, but I just look for cut date and who's going to be around and take my chances there if I got to keep if I got to build up the depth from the office of my standpoint, I wouldn't treat Johnny.
40:04.880 --> 40:08.301
[SPEAKER_02]: I would, I mean, I would entertain it if it's some kind of value there.
40:08.321 --> 40:18.724
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I wouldn't be in a rush to do it, but if there's value there, I would do it because I do think that if it's one of those places where you can kind of afford to, you know, Daniel, that guy is the deepest line.
40:19.184 --> 40:32.108
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, you got Newton, I mean, you got Ken law, you got settled, you got a minute of you, you got even Drake Jackson, I mean, they just signed to do this week, I mean, I don't know if he's just a body or not, but I believe he was here before Maurice
40:34.589 --> 40:43.178
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they got guys alone that defensive line that you got a question is Johnny Newton really, you know, how much better is he than any of those guys.
40:43.458 --> 40:54.049
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, unless you think Johnny Newton still has some untapped potential that we haven't seen yet, you know, then that's when you say, no, we're, you know, we're going to still see this out because we know Johnny can do this.
40:54.409 --> 40:56.231
[SPEAKER_02]: But Johnny does have to start showing it though.
40:56.251 --> 40:57.492
[SPEAKER_02]: He has this argument when it's simple.
40:57.632 --> 40:58.433
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we have to see.
40:58.863 --> 41:00.404
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, sunny styles.
41:01.345 --> 41:08.929
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm wish you, I don't think it was a big issue, uh, George like his his game, his debut wasn't like alarming.
41:09.570 --> 41:22.338
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I, I think like even with the criticisms, I think his more so constructive, it should have been interpreted as constructive criticism as opposed to like definitive, uh,
41:22.998 --> 41:24.299
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't even know another word.
41:24.399 --> 41:25.919
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not over.
41:26.299 --> 41:43.385
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not like one thing where it's like, oh, he ain't going to get it I actually think one of the most important things that we got to take away from this is like everybody's transition time to the NFL isn't linear like everybody isn't the same and and and it may take him a little bit longer and one aspect other
41:44.026 --> 41:49.752
[SPEAKER_03]: of playing defense to really pick up and trust his instincts as opposed to another aspect in.
41:49.993 --> 41:52.395
[SPEAKER_03]: He may be great in the past game immediately.
41:52.676 --> 41:57.481
[SPEAKER_03]: His athleticism and his ability to know where his own spots are, even with his
41:58.603 --> 42:12.007
[SPEAKER_03]: spot jobs or even just identifying who is a Simon is like that may be easier to him right now and it may take us some time to pick up in the right game and that may be frustrating because like you don't want to get Gash right even with the 13 yard action.
42:12.027 --> 42:13.968
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that was all on him.
42:13.988 --> 42:21.030
[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of Johnny Newton, he couldn't get off the block to save his life with front and by the time H and ran past and he got half his arm out.
42:21.690 --> 42:50.105
[SPEAKER_03]: And he just blew past Johnny Newton and I'd expose sunny styles to an extent, but yeah, I don't, I don't really think what we're in right now should be somebody who's like super concerned, like people just need to understand sometimes a note of like how he played isn't a huge detriment, but more so just like, all right, we see we got to let's see if he can bounce back the next game or like maybe how long does it take for him or that actually.
42:50.545 --> 42:55.112
[SPEAKER_03]: I fought to click and you know we'll see but I'm not super concerned right now.
42:58.212 --> 43:03.595
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, I mean, I like that some fans, you know, have access to the all 22.
43:03.715 --> 43:10.278
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, y'all do a good job to film review mall, but then it's just too many fans out here to have too much access that they shouldn't have.
43:10.639 --> 43:16.162
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why we had some of the groups that we had because we're talking about one damn series in a game.
43:16.282 --> 43:17.002
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all he played.
43:17.022 --> 43:18.163
[SPEAKER_02]: He played one series.
43:18.183 --> 43:22.365
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is a rookie that's playing literally his first professional football game ever.
43:23.045 --> 43:27.708
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're dissecting his first series as if that's all we need to know of this guy.
43:27.748 --> 43:34.231
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, to me, I just saw a guy that was out there possibly thinking too much and, you know, not trust in what he sees on the field yet.
43:34.631 --> 43:37.233
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he has to get adjusted to the speed of the game.
43:37.273 --> 43:39.033
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think you can do that in one series.
43:39.114 --> 43:41.075
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I would like to see them for a full game.
43:41.135 --> 43:43.656
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not in a precies, but I'm talking about four stars.
43:43.736 --> 43:47.618
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, making any kind of, you know, proclamations about what he is up.
43:48.038 --> 44:05.097
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me go out there at least simply a full damn game even though I'm not the type of person That's gonna come up with a conclusion on the gap the one game, but yeah one series I mean that we're talking about one series where people are so concerned and all man He's a bust and everything and that's because people aren't looking at these, you know, film reviews and am like oh man I think this play here
44:05.237 --> 44:07.037
[SPEAKER_02]: do good on this play can't be any good.
44:07.378 --> 44:10.638
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I mean, you got to give these guys some time to develop.
44:10.698 --> 44:12.159
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think son is one of those players.
44:12.179 --> 44:13.779
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a smart player about all means.
44:13.939 --> 44:17.300
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, here how mature he is, you know, I mean, this is a guy.
44:17.320 --> 44:20.061
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, you know, he's probably going to, I'm not going to say probably.
44:20.081 --> 44:24.022
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he will learn from what he sees on if you have to let it out there in the game.
44:24.382 --> 44:43.079
[SPEAKER_02]: he's also like oh man okay now this is what the NFL speed is like all right now I can go out there not to play at this level or at this speed but even then it's gonna take some time I mean this guy has to go out there and get experience but now we live in such a microwave culture microwave sports call to what we have so many and access to everything like we have coaches acts
44:43.379 --> 44:48.242
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we have coaches, film, and we think we can evaluate on the level of the coaches and everything.
44:48.302 --> 44:53.224
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it's kind of unfair to the players like Sunny, you know, even in our bill races.
44:53.244 --> 44:55.766
[SPEAKER_02]: When you go out there, looking at a lot of those workies, the cable of downs.
44:55.826 --> 45:00.909
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, they're not out there making huge impacts of one series that the fans want to see.
45:00.929 --> 45:06.792
[SPEAKER_02]: But fans are going to go out there and act like these guys can't do it at all because the one time they didn't see it, that means that's it.
45:07.272 --> 45:14.336
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, to get you got to give these guys a chance, man, I think Sonia, you can't have it once he gets his, you know, gets up to speed, he watched his film and everything.
45:14.356 --> 45:18.098
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's wouldn't really, guys on the least worried about him the team right now.
45:18.719 --> 45:19.359
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with the jury.
45:19.379 --> 45:20.500
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has the right make up.
45:20.540 --> 45:23.021
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, that term of chlormentality.
45:23.061 --> 45:23.802
[SPEAKER_00]: He was in a work card.
45:23.822 --> 45:26.503
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to grind his and kind of put his, he's going to put the work in.
45:26.564 --> 45:31.987
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's kind of getting that, and I'm, you know, good that nervous energy out after that first game, I think it'll be okay.
45:32.387 --> 45:34.949
[SPEAKER_00]: The one positive that I'll take away from him is he covered a lot of ground.
45:34.969 --> 45:35.569
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't, he didn't,
45:35.949 --> 45:41.852
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't necessarily an eraser, and also it's first game, but he was like dropping back to the 20 yards, he had some great coverage.
45:42.273 --> 45:45.555
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he had, he showed potentials a really good past coverage line back there.
45:45.935 --> 45:49.197
[SPEAKER_00]: The only concern I would potentially have him in, like he's kind of lean.
45:49.237 --> 45:50.537
[SPEAKER_00]: He's tall, six, five, two, four.
45:50.918 --> 45:52.178
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a tall frame.
45:52.439 --> 45:55.020
[SPEAKER_00]: He used to get a lower end of the block, and that's all he needs to do, kind of moving forward.
45:55.040 --> 45:58.282
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was very enthusiastic with the pick.
45:58.322 --> 45:59.883
[SPEAKER_00]: I was pumped about that weekend and as a steal.
46:00.243 --> 46:01.164
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited about him.
46:01.184 --> 46:01.364
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't
46:05.067 --> 46:11.832
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Jay Tsizi, I'm sorry, man, whether you like it or not, if if John Newton doesn't work out.
46:12.828 --> 46:39.441
[SPEAKER_02]: that is absolutely on Adam beaters and you can't do that's now that's revisionist history if I ever seen it he made that decision to take a take a chance on an injured guy with two bad feet and that's money ball just proved my point exactly Michael he questioned my thoughts on microwave culture and he's already saying Josh with Joseph is the best working on a thing as they that's it you know is there's no one better to do it already
46:41.222 --> 46:41.622
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
46:41.682 --> 46:43.203
[SPEAKER_02]: That's make it way called to the nutshell.
46:43.223 --> 46:44.604
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for providing money.
46:44.924 --> 46:45.805
[SPEAKER_03]: There is one thing.
46:45.845 --> 46:50.328
[SPEAKER_03]: Josh Rose, I do like what I do right over here, and I like what I'm seeing.
46:50.748 --> 46:52.149
[SPEAKER_03]: So do give him.
46:52.209 --> 46:53.190
[SPEAKER_03]: I give him a quick shout out.
46:53.210 --> 46:53.730
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just to mind.
46:53.750 --> 46:58.393
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to watch a little bit more and in the preseason before I keep talking about them.
46:58.573 --> 47:04.117
[SPEAKER_03]: Because right now he has so many people in front of them to really say like what is in back and be as a rookie.
47:04.577 --> 47:05.958
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, money boy.
47:06.732 --> 47:11.896
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't give you credit at all, but we're going to get you creating a drink of jobs.
47:11.936 --> 47:13.418
[SPEAKER_02]: His past coming clear too.
47:13.498 --> 47:14.859
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a couple.
47:14.899 --> 47:16.200
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know how serious it is.
47:16.220 --> 47:21.124
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how serious it is, but a chasin and was over and all the way.
47:21.184 --> 47:21.424
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
47:21.985 --> 47:22.225
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
47:22.965 --> 47:26.168
[SPEAKER_03]: First off, they better stop bullshitting.
47:26.188 --> 47:27.289
[SPEAKER_03]: They said to get a bracket.
47:27.309 --> 47:30.371
[SPEAKER_03]: These injuries end up being somewhat long term.
47:30.512 --> 47:33.214
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, like a few weeks, I'm going to be very upset.
47:33.894 --> 47:34.255
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:34.375 --> 47:35.696
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's going to make me upset.
47:36.843 --> 47:42.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish you, I mean, to be honest, I'm a little bit concerned, I'm excitedly concerned about the intensity of practice, right?
47:42.965 --> 47:44.666
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're supposed to have that practice.
47:45.006 --> 47:49.847
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tuesday and Wednesday in this week are gonna be a little more, but they didn't have what practice today because of all the injuries.
47:50.328 --> 47:51.928
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know, I mean, what's going on?
47:51.968 --> 47:54.269
[SPEAKER_00]: How you got, I don't know if you guys have been a camp yet.
47:54.309 --> 47:54.869
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been there.
47:54.889 --> 47:56.790
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think it was that in chance.
47:56.870 --> 47:58.730
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't really that crazy when I was there, so I don't know.
47:58.750 --> 48:00.811
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know how intense it truly is, but you're right.
48:01.111 --> 48:05.413
[SPEAKER_00]: The injuries, you know, always it's gonna be a special place supposed to be a major player for us.
48:06.853 --> 48:07.654
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say about that.
48:08.876 --> 48:21.874
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you did bring it as you went to the training camp because I think a couple of observations that's important is just like I want to know what you see from that receiver room since you've been out there and and.
48:25.521 --> 48:28.783
[SPEAKER_03]: Who is your real, let's say, top four.
48:28.823 --> 48:36.687
[SPEAKER_03]: We can worry about the banking after that, but like who's like your real four guys, that you think is gonna be major contributes at that position?
48:37.447 --> 48:39.968
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's funny, like all off season now is kind of worried.
48:39.988 --> 48:40.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Now she won't consider him.
48:40.849 --> 48:45.351
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought Washington needed one more player in the water sea of the room, and I'm really happy they got to fund things.
48:45.371 --> 48:48.453
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you guys keep up with that on Maryland guys, so I'll pump the guys to fund them.
48:48.473 --> 48:49.373
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, we were talking about that.
48:49.393 --> 48:50.794
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:50.854 --> 48:51.214
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fun.
48:51.294 --> 48:52.795
[SPEAKER_03]: It was some of that for a couple of years.
48:53.275 --> 48:54.256
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly as my boy.
48:54.276 --> 48:55.157
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the body's about boy.
48:55.177 --> 48:55.798
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching my mirror.
48:55.818 --> 48:56.659
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my guy right there.
48:57.040 --> 49:01.645
[SPEAKER_00]: So having him comes in on the commander is it just not everybody into the right slot, right?
49:01.665 --> 49:04.809
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we are hoping that Antonio Williams would be a good number two.
49:04.849 --> 49:07.112
[SPEAKER_00]: We were hoping a trail on Brooks would be a good number three.
49:07.132 --> 49:08.033
[SPEAKER_00]: This someone is so forth.
49:08.413 --> 49:10.195
[SPEAKER_00]: I think every kind of falls in line out.
49:10.235 --> 49:11.297
[SPEAKER_00]: I think everything's going to be good.
49:12.097 --> 49:18.098
[SPEAKER_00]: Tim McCleuron, if he has helped me throughout 17 years, I still think he's going to be the the biggest playmaker on the team.
49:18.138 --> 49:20.999
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he might be more of that linear deep shot kind of guy.
49:21.039 --> 49:21.939
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still got that speed.
49:21.979 --> 49:22.959
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jay likes him.
49:23.359 --> 49:24.519
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking that shot off the top.
49:25.159 --> 49:26.119
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be surprised.
49:26.139 --> 49:28.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much you guys care about this.
49:28.080 --> 49:30.240
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the funnest, but have the most targets.
49:30.260 --> 49:35.241
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be more of that like that short yardage set third down chain moving guy that zone buster.
49:35.261 --> 49:40.862
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a three yard play for your place keep the team a chance of insane in the positive game strip.
49:41.422 --> 49:43.663
[SPEAKER_00]: that's gonna be used to fondates there so I like both of them.
49:43.683 --> 49:47.584
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care who gets more of yards or who more targets attached onto all the same in me.
49:47.604 --> 49:48.304
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all about that.
49:49.164 --> 49:52.025
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Lidma Capri, guys, we're gonna be number three believe it or not.
49:52.565 --> 49:54.045
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big Lidma Capri fan.
49:54.085 --> 49:56.506
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily like love him, but it seems to be grinded.
49:56.526 --> 49:57.786
[SPEAKER_00]: I seem to be doing pretty well.
49:58.126 --> 50:02.147
[SPEAKER_00]: I keep hearing good things about him and like when I saw him, I can't be eating a little bit when I saw him there.
50:02.508 --> 50:03.948
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll kind of see him as number three.
50:04.648 --> 50:07.591
[SPEAKER_00]: I want Antonio Williams to be up there, but we'll see how that goes.
50:08.132 --> 50:09.433
[SPEAKER_00]: I love you guys saw him in person.
50:09.453 --> 50:11.275
[SPEAKER_00]: Antonio Williams is smaller than people think.
50:11.295 --> 50:12.316
[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of a ship here.
50:12.977 --> 50:14.539
[SPEAKER_00]: He's have a smaller, like, slight guy.
50:14.579 --> 50:16.601
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm like, I'm a TV.
50:16.681 --> 50:18.623
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, minute, he's small.
50:18.643 --> 50:20.765
[SPEAKER_00]: People are saying like he's six foot, like, six one.
50:20.785 --> 50:22.607
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, five, 11, but he doesn't look.
50:22.807 --> 50:23.808
[SPEAKER_00]: He's looked at that big to me.
50:23.828 --> 50:25.450
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's still kind of getting there.
50:25.850 --> 50:26.831
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy that he's there.
50:27.432 --> 50:30.034
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Trey Berks is going to be like a situational guy.
50:30.054 --> 50:31.195
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big trade Brooks guy.
50:31.235 --> 50:32.416
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he had to kind of show it.
50:32.816 --> 50:35.978
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, he had 35 catches, like a 35 catches.
50:35.998 --> 50:37.699
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the highest in his entire career.
50:37.719 --> 50:41.522
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, his rookie C is the 10 catches last year over eight games for the commanders.
50:42.102 --> 50:43.924
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a huge trade Brooks guy.
50:43.944 --> 50:46.245
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he offers something different with that size.
50:46.545 --> 50:47.786
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a red zone threat.
50:47.806 --> 50:49.668
[SPEAKER_00]: He can use him on like possession receiver.
50:50.208 --> 50:52.590
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the wrestler receiving a room, you know, I think.
50:53.290 --> 50:58.373
[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of cuts, I think VN Jefferson and Dami Brown are the ones that are in the biggest concern.
50:58.753 --> 51:05.477
[SPEAKER_00]: I think VN Jefferson will probably be the guy that's cutting my opinion because I think, I think, like, J&D does a likes Dami Brown.
51:05.517 --> 51:07.758
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, Dami Brown plays special teams.
51:07.778 --> 51:10.799
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the gunner I believe in that that couple of years ago is a gunner on the pont team.
51:11.300 --> 51:13.561
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think to see all of her that speed is a little bit bigger too.
51:13.661 --> 51:14.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Dami is bigger than people think.
51:14.862 --> 51:16.743
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like 62 or something like that too.
51:16.763 --> 51:18.383
[SPEAKER_00]: So people kind of forget about that.
51:18.423 --> 51:20.505
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I think this stick around my opinion.
51:22.674 --> 51:30.483
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're going to say, I mean, I love George's, you know, observation at a Y receiver room, um, and I like to hit a look reference to me.
51:30.503 --> 51:31.344
[SPEAKER_02]: Luke is my dude.
51:31.424 --> 51:34.467
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want it, it's like, I'm a lot of name.
51:34.988 --> 51:43.838
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I mean, and again, but talking about Luke kind of just reminds me of, um, a player we didn't mention at all this show yet, and, um,
51:44.438 --> 51:51.320
[SPEAKER_02]: And granted, the bar was low because Sam Hartman was so bad, but the rookie code of bad came in a look pretty damn good.
51:51.360 --> 52:00.782
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, I mean, maybe maybe you have something there as far as a developmental e-scoz and I think that's a important going for when we talk about a back of quarterback is Mario just not going to be here for that.
52:01.102 --> 52:06.243
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to need to have somebody to come in and develop at their quarterback position and I thought anything.
52:06.303 --> 52:09.004
[SPEAKER_02]: came and he looked and posed again right away.
52:09.024 --> 52:10.264
[SPEAKER_02]: He looked like an NFL quarterback.
52:10.284 --> 52:14.646
[SPEAKER_02]: Like some semblance of an NFL quarterback right after Sam Hart became in left the game.
52:15.046 --> 52:16.487
[SPEAKER_02]: And he gave receivers a chance.
52:16.547 --> 52:20.908
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, he kind of hoping to see that earlier in the game with some of those guys get the chance.
52:20.928 --> 52:24.810
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think they think gave Antonio wins his first reception of the game.
52:24.870 --> 52:25.090
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
52:25.490 --> 52:33.832
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's going to be interesting without Mario the especially of Jayden's not playing which obviously we hope Jayden does get Those reps a little bit of reps against Detroit.
52:34.072 --> 52:45.555
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's going to be that number two quarterback because I don't think you can just throw Sam Hartman out there again We have to be able to evaluate some of these guys and some of these guys being that wide receiver room I want to see more of that wide receiver room this week
52:47.035 --> 52:53.160
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, Terry and Steph's not going to play a lot, but, you know, you want to see them guys kind of getting to a bit of a rhythm.
52:53.180 --> 52:57.504
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to see Diami Brown on who's going to stock their merch as wide to see the 304.
52:57.824 --> 52:59.946
[SPEAKER_02]: We couldn't see any of that, at least in the preseason game.
52:59.986 --> 53:06.631
[SPEAKER_02]: And George, you know, obviously, you've been the training camp, so you've seen a little bit more of that group to say who can be three, four, five.
53:06.651 --> 53:14.798
[SPEAKER_02]: But I want, you know, for me, personally, I want to start to see some of those guys get a chance and maybe eighth and give them a better chance to Sam does going forward, at least for the rest of the preseason.
53:15.038 --> 53:26.550
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me say one thing, Jerry, if you don't mind, all we say is all we want to say is that when I want to camp, Jaden Danos, I'm not someone that kind of hyped up and kind of like, you know, blows things out of portion, but Jaden Danos, his velocity is much improved from last year.
53:26.570 --> 53:29.432
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's because maybe he got stronger, maybe I better, maybe he's changed.
53:30.053 --> 53:35.036
[SPEAKER_00]: He has like trajectory through his ball, but he has some great zip on the ball, like better than I've seen in previous years.
53:35.416 --> 53:38.458
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, um, uh, eighth and it was also, and it was very behind him.
53:38.498 --> 53:44.341
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Sam Hartman is a noticeable invariant of, but Sam Hartman is like, in terms of arm strength is the weakest of them all.
53:44.641 --> 53:46.582
[SPEAKER_00]: And because of that, you know, you can pick and jump on that.
53:46.602 --> 53:48.763
[SPEAKER_00]: They can get, they'll just create that at the pro level.
53:48.783 --> 53:52.065
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why we can't see anything because he's has like no velocity.
53:52.105 --> 53:54.886
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can't, there was those outrots to the, to the, um,
54:02.362 --> 54:10.966
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it would be interesting because I obviously don't think Hartman had that bad of a game.
54:10.986 --> 54:12.907
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he had that bad of a game.
54:14.048 --> 54:15.969
[SPEAKER_03]: Granted, there's two throws that really stick out.
54:16.229 --> 54:16.989
[SPEAKER_03]: You already talked about it.
54:17.029 --> 54:18.070
[SPEAKER_03]: The Lugman care everyone.
54:18.250 --> 54:19.030
[SPEAKER_03]: That was bad.
54:19.691 --> 54:23.613
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like I actually don't think the issue was who he targeted.
54:24.053 --> 54:25.334
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Lugman care was open.
54:25.394 --> 54:25.654
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
54:26.976 --> 54:28.497
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, he was still over the top of him.
54:28.897 --> 54:30.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
54:30.558 --> 54:36.081
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he was trying to hit the backside day and like the sweet spot of his own.
54:36.781 --> 54:39.223
[SPEAKER_03]: But like to do that, you have to be perfect.
54:39.763 --> 54:43.165
[SPEAKER_03]: And you have to like, you really have to like nail that throw.
54:43.665 --> 54:48.448
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what you saw somebody who knew he had to be perfect and he sailed that well for it.
54:50.850 --> 54:53.932
[SPEAKER_03]: And then was the one where it is, right?
54:54.412 --> 54:56.454
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the one I was going to.
54:56.674 --> 54:58.815
[SPEAKER_03]: And ironically, that was like a corner route.
54:59.256 --> 55:03.278
[SPEAKER_03]: It can look like an owl because he ran the Jalen Lane ran it from the slide.
55:03.659 --> 55:04.819
[SPEAKER_03]: Any, when I was sad.
55:05.760 --> 55:31.418
[SPEAKER_03]: and Sam threw it right to the DB, no precision there, but like those are the two that really stands out, but outside of that, like he also made some really aggressive throws that actually connected and like watching it, I just gave him some grease and seeing how he recovered from those first two series, those particular throws.
55:31.858 --> 55:34.059
[SPEAKER_03]: Does that mean that I think he's better than the
55:35.371 --> 55:52.438
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, no, um, I actually thought the rookie was more impressive than him, but I would like to see it's, but when it comes to rookie's, especially in certain positions, like I would like to see more consistency, like I want to see you do this a couple more times, and they're going to get a lot of snaps in that third game game.
55:52.558 --> 55:54.259
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I would I would like to see it.
55:55.332 --> 55:59.215
[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously, even the second game, I'm sorry, because Mary Otis heard he's out for the precision.
55:59.735 --> 56:02.437
[SPEAKER_03]: So like we're going to see a lot more snazzy than those two.
56:04.178 --> 56:13.844
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it is a big conversation because ultimately, what do you do in this situation like do you cut?
56:14.972 --> 56:17.754
[SPEAKER_03]: one quarterback and and stash the one on practice squad.
56:17.794 --> 56:20.716
[SPEAKER_03]: Me and the keeping two two quarterbacks on on the active on the act.
56:20.977 --> 56:21.817
[SPEAKER_03]: The final 53.
56:22.658 --> 56:27.681
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but I think ultimately whoever does he could isn't being stash the practice squad.
56:27.722 --> 56:31.764
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're going to keep one of those same heartmen or what's the last thing.
56:32.125 --> 56:33.426
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't even tell you.
56:33.446 --> 56:33.906
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:33.986 --> 56:34.446
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:34.466 --> 56:34.767
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
56:34.787 --> 56:34.967
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
56:35.047 --> 56:35.307
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
56:35.327 --> 56:35.507
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
56:35.567 --> 56:35.767
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:36.348 --> 56:36.588
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:36.608 --> 56:37.188
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:37.289 --> 56:37.789
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:37.989 --> 56:38.409
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:38.449 --> 56:39.650
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to call a man as a brother.
56:43.553 --> 56:44.433
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think it's interesting.
56:44.453 --> 56:45.754
[SPEAKER_03]: I like him.
56:46.154 --> 56:52.997
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he was I think he had he played a little bit better than than Sam Harvey, but I also think Sam Harvey like the distance wasn't that far off.
56:54.117 --> 56:58.779
[SPEAKER_03]: And last thing, I'm cool with Luke making the team.
56:59.019 --> 57:01.540
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have an issue with him making the team.
57:02.401 --> 57:03.301
[SPEAKER_03]: But was interesting.
57:03.321 --> 57:07.303
[SPEAKER_03]: I would like for people to look at some of his reps if you can.
57:08.612 --> 57:13.777
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, against if anybody has like the precies and all 22, just take a look at his reps.
57:14.277 --> 57:21.023
[SPEAKER_03]: If you can excuse me, if you can against Miami, they threw him several different looks.
57:21.063 --> 57:33.253
[SPEAKER_03]: Whether it's uh, uh, off, off man, uh, zone coverage, um, whether it's press coverage, uh, it's still
57:35.565 --> 57:36.826
[SPEAKER_03]: I would just like for y'all to see.
57:37.886 --> 57:42.309
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want to tease it, so let me just be a little bit more interesting.
57:42.349 --> 57:51.614
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think Luke still didn't show, like he had a real plan against these different coverages.
57:52.395 --> 57:59.679
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that the big conversation that people had about him was like, how he seemed a little bit more prepared.
57:59.719 --> 58:01.600
[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously y'all said he's having a great camp.
58:02.419 --> 58:21.391
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't doubt that at all, but I also like to see now at this point after I watched that pre-season game, like, how does he get an open, and like, no, I really like, is he getting schemeed open, is it, is it, is it him, like, finding like the sauce boss in the zone, is he actually creating separation, because like the one rep that I did see in one of
58:24.653 --> 58:27.654
[SPEAKER_03]: He got his hands hemmed up, but he's still most to do.
58:28.435 --> 58:29.895
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like he didn't create separation.
58:30.636 --> 58:33.557
[SPEAKER_03]: And even like his biggest cash last year was against the charges.
58:34.237 --> 58:37.239
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't create separation in, but he'd most to shit out of somebody.
58:38.318 --> 58:39.798
[SPEAKER_03]: great cash over the shoulder cash.
58:39.818 --> 58:40.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
58:40.278 --> 58:40.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:40.559 --> 58:40.919
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
58:40.979 --> 58:41.259
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
58:41.299 --> 58:42.119
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know.
58:42.659 --> 58:49.041
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say, you went, you kind of alluded to a Lucas Lucas more of a result person versus the process.
58:49.181 --> 58:52.661
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think you looking at the process, which is a great look.
58:52.701 --> 58:56.922
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a lot of do's if you if you don't get the process, right, the results not going to go out right.
58:56.942 --> 58:58.983
[SPEAKER_02]: But somehow look, always makes the result.
58:59.003 --> 59:03.764
[SPEAKER_02]: When he gets his chances, the result comes out right, even though the process doesn't look pretty, it doesn't look clean.
59:04.164 --> 59:06.125
[SPEAKER_02]: Somehow he always does a good, he
59:08.465 --> 59:13.406
[SPEAKER_03]: even when he just gained up, he showed up, he came through for his quarterback, like, cool.
59:13.767 --> 59:18.968
[SPEAKER_03]: And not even in a dismissive cool, it's like, yeah, like, that's, you have to just pose to do, you did it.
59:19.348 --> 59:23.269
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I can trust you to get you to ball in this situation where you
59:30.818 --> 59:51.068
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'll say it, but where I get it is some quarterbacks aren't as and won't always be as aggressive as Jayden and even Jayden himself if he has better options on a particular plate, like I can't trust trying to get fit the border to look if he ain't even getting open at the line.
59:52.119 --> 01:00:01.041
[SPEAKER_03]: Or if he can't separate on that beyond that first level, right, that's that's why I'm getting that so it's like from a development standpoint, he's going to make the team.
01:00:02.442 --> 01:00:18.206
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like, oh, how much stalker people really putting in Luke in his development this all season because like after that first game, I will love to see how he's actually getting open at practice because if he's not if he's making big plays, which is not a knock it all, but if he's making big plays when I really separate in.
01:00:18.786 --> 01:00:25.572
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it's like I don't see him being like in that top echelon upper echelon of people who's going to get a target shooter.
01:00:25.832 --> 01:00:26.813
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's what I'm in.
01:00:27.543 --> 01:00:46.149
[SPEAKER_00]: And my think is I'm curious to see what Dave O'Blow does in regard to like, is he going to have a true like hierarchy like 1, 2, and 3, he these people that I'm going to target or is he going to do more like a package kind of thing like, like, hey, loop it carefully, maybe on one place is a better run block and then GL lane or basically, you know, in 20 ways, if it's a quick third down, I want to ask when I can, we'll quick off a line up as the route running, maybe go that route.
01:00:46.169 --> 01:00:49.090
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be, it's going to be interesting to see where he goes.
01:00:49.110 --> 01:00:51.691
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Luke just looked like he looks at him.
01:00:51.711 --> 01:00:52.711
[SPEAKER_00]: I make the team in my opinion.
01:00:52.751 --> 01:00:54.412
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be a contributor by some of the
01:00:57.342 --> 01:00:59.363
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, can before we get out of here though.
01:00:59.544 --> 01:01:05.408
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean money ball he doesn't bring up a lot of great points, but he Money ball man.
01:01:05.488 --> 01:01:07.589
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it doesn't bring up a lot of great points.
01:01:07.609 --> 01:01:08.070
[SPEAKER_02]: Money ball.
01:01:08.090 --> 01:01:08.970
[SPEAKER_02]: This doesn't get it.
01:01:09.170 --> 01:01:09.791
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sorry.
01:01:09.831 --> 01:01:11.152
[SPEAKER_02]: Money ball just doesn't get it, man.
01:01:11.592 --> 01:01:13.394
[SPEAKER_02]: But money ball to your point.
01:01:13.474 --> 01:01:14.294
[SPEAKER_02]: Drew Stevens.
01:01:14.334 --> 01:01:14.955
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, man.
01:01:14.975 --> 01:01:15.955
[SPEAKER_02]: The Drew Stevens era.
01:01:16.015 --> 01:01:19.158
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so happy that we are, you know, we made a decision on this.
01:01:19.538 --> 01:01:22.120
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said this look because for me personally,
01:01:22.600 --> 01:01:30.604
[SPEAKER_02]: Just hearing how Drew Stevens has kind of been, he's been pretty much this whole training campus far as kicking in accuracy and field goals go.
01:01:31.464 --> 01:01:37.748
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, man, when it comes to preseason games, I don't even want to see Jake Moody take his reps away and preseason games.
01:01:37.788 --> 01:01:44.571
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see Drew Stevens get all of those reps. Now granted, I mean, they still had the competition going, game one against the dolphins.
01:01:44.651 --> 01:01:47.312
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Jake Moody did make a field goal even though it was barely.
01:01:47.392 --> 01:01:48.493
[SPEAKER_02]: Family made a dope shot.
01:01:49.493 --> 01:01:52.015
[SPEAKER_02]: Drew Steam has made his only field go in the game.
01:01:52.495 --> 01:02:00.661
[SPEAKER_02]: Now Drew Steam is the kicker and for these next two preseason games, we get to see Drew Steam's whenever we do get kicking opportunities.
01:02:00.761 --> 01:02:06.045
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the guy and you want to see him kind of get that momentum going before the regular season starts.
01:02:06.325 --> 01:02:09.467
[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully he solidifies why they chose him.
01:02:09.507 --> 01:02:10.528
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this will be huge.
01:02:10.948 --> 01:02:15.772
[SPEAKER_02]: If Adam Peters on Washington has found a answer to that kick position that has alluded us for so many years.
01:02:17.089 --> 01:02:25.495
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm going to let you go George, but to answer this part of the conversation, even Steven said he would surprise that they could moody this early.
01:02:25.515 --> 01:02:26.536
[SPEAKER_03]: He thought they used one.
01:02:26.576 --> 01:02:29.978
[SPEAKER_03]: They was going to let him let them rock out for the next two weeks.
01:02:30.739 --> 01:02:34.101
[SPEAKER_03]: And even after that first game, like Steven is Mr.
01:02:34.161 --> 01:02:35.262
[SPEAKER_03]: Kick, they didn't count.
01:02:36.383 --> 01:02:39.225
[SPEAKER_03]: And then moody had his one that went off the
01:02:43.243 --> 01:02:50.212
[SPEAKER_03]: Give it down the way out a little bit even for the first out and so do y'all think that they made the right decision move.
01:02:50.272 --> 01:02:51.153
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I know you did, right?
01:02:51.173 --> 01:02:57.581
[SPEAKER_03]: You just say on the set, but George, do you think that they made the right decision making this move right now or are you it?
01:02:58.443 --> 01:03:02.724
[SPEAKER_00]: I like what Drey said before, Drey brought up that good point, which I do agree with.
01:03:03.164 --> 01:03:08.846
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to see another week, because all throughout Trenic Cape, it was about even like what I saw Moody, he actually looked really good in Cape.
01:03:08.866 --> 01:03:16.768
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like two foot toe for Steven, six for six, he was kind of doing very very well, but then over the last week or so he must have gotten his own head, because he started to miss
01:03:17.988 --> 01:03:18.929
[SPEAKER_00]: missed a little bit here or there.
01:03:19.429 --> 01:03:21.110
[SPEAKER_00]: Drew Stevens always had the bigger leg.
01:03:21.130 --> 01:03:27.054
[SPEAKER_00]: He's always had the, you know, when you saw it, it was like, they both were accurate, but you Stevens would be like, 10 yards further.
01:03:27.074 --> 01:03:29.816
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of looked more like more powerful when he kicked the ball.
01:03:30.317 --> 01:03:31.257
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like a dresser.
01:03:31.557 --> 01:03:34.359
[SPEAKER_00]: For me, initially, walking in, I was like, oh, give them more to compete.
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:39.623
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, if you, if they made a decision, if they're seeing it every single day in practice, they know Drew Stevens is better.
01:03:40.023 --> 01:03:41.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not give them all the reps?
01:03:41.304 --> 01:03:42.705
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not give them the NFL experience?
01:03:42.765 --> 01:03:43.686
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not put them
01:03:47.149 --> 01:03:50.156
[SPEAKER_00]: He knows he's the guy, kind of given that confidence, so I make this my opinion.
01:03:50.417 --> 01:03:50.858
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll roll with that.
01:03:51.908 --> 01:03:56.991
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think at the bottom line, I'm cool with it.
01:03:57.071 --> 01:04:04.074
[SPEAKER_03]: It's whatever I think at this point, and you just want to have to roll with the punches if you go with somebody this young.
01:04:04.734 --> 01:04:06.896
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not to say he's incapable, right?
01:04:07.076 --> 01:04:09.977
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I saw some videos today where he was booting out.
01:04:10.197 --> 01:04:12.158
[SPEAKER_03]: A fan said it was from 60, I have no idea.
01:04:12.618 --> 01:04:14.339
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe the announce that it was from 60.
01:04:14.379 --> 01:04:16.220
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe that's where he's coming from.
01:04:16.781 --> 01:04:20.262
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, I think, and the reason why I brought up
01:04:21.923 --> 01:04:25.247
[SPEAKER_03]: as he made it, he could hit the, hit the field go for my 65, 75.
01:04:27.210 --> 01:04:29.933
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think you're going to roll the punches.
01:04:30.334 --> 01:04:33.738
[SPEAKER_03]: But what's important for him is to make these ones early on.
01:04:33.778 --> 01:04:36.422
[SPEAKER_03]: I was you to guy, even when it's personal, he doesn't sound like.
01:04:36.862 --> 01:04:38.423
[SPEAKER_03]: He's super nervous about anything.
01:04:38.523 --> 01:04:40.085
[SPEAKER_03]: He's actually very careful.
01:04:40.205 --> 01:04:53.475
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's over explaining, but I think it's important because he's he's he's She has some stuff that I'm pretty sure people didn't know about the elements of the kicking game So like I think all of those things are important because it's like it's breaking down how he even processed his things and when he's learning
01:04:54.133 --> 01:05:03.059
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, as a rookie and in for him to be a little bit that comfortable and sharing that information right now, um, albeit as a specialist, right, is it's big for him.
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:09.543
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, make a couple of those kicks and I think they're going to try and showcase or like giving those opportunities to make those.
01:05:10.203 --> 01:05:25.652
[SPEAKER_03]: anywhere between those 49 yards to to 60 plus and preseason if the opportunity arises us all about him being able to to nail it for his sake uh... but also like uh... i think the coaches will be a little bit is is more so about the fan base and yeah and you're reaction
01:05:26.412 --> 01:05:37.354
[SPEAKER_02]: And my final thought on that kick in situation and you know, I've mentioned this before, but it's a huge thing to have a kicker that you can have that weapon when you step across the 50 yard line, you are in a field going range.
01:05:37.374 --> 01:05:41.435
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it with Dallas, like, you know, wearing an Aubrey's one of the best, if not the best kicker in the league.
01:05:42.015 --> 01:05:45.016
[SPEAKER_02]: And he gives Dallas that chance every time they step across midfield.
01:05:45.036 --> 01:05:51.077
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it just allows you to feel more confident, you know, a certain thing you might call on a third down because you know to kicker the edge of back.
01:05:51.497 --> 01:05:56.199
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, granted, we don't know if true steam is that yet, but that's the potential he has with his leg.
01:05:56.399 --> 01:06:07.323
[SPEAKER_02]: And we've heard it all through the training camp, even when the days that you were here that both kickers made all six-day field goes, I was hearing people saying that true steam is just have more pop on here.
01:06:08.003 --> 01:06:35.508
[SPEAKER_02]: And my biggest worry again before, you know, we got into off-season camps and practices was I was more worried about the accuracy I'm like I know he has the power, but I want to see if he can adjust to the NFL hash marks because they kick, you know It's different colleges wider and it fills a little you know narrower So you have to kind of get used to kicking for those hash marks and so far so good it looks like he's got that part So if he has the accuracy bar down with the power I mean this could be that kick or you've been looking for I mean
01:06:36.188 --> 01:06:41.852
[SPEAKER_02]: There I say it, franchise kicker, you know, a guy who wants to work some, not work it out.
01:06:41.872 --> 01:06:43.393
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't work it out somewhere else.
01:06:43.413 --> 01:06:50.017
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully, you know, hey, George, great time always talking with you.
01:06:50.577 --> 01:06:52.819
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to give you the floor, because you do a lot.
01:06:53.059 --> 01:07:00.444
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and addition to the big good and comedy podcast, I want to give you the floor to play anything and everything that you got going on.
01:07:05.627 --> 01:07:06.307
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, man.
01:07:06.327 --> 01:07:07.668
[SPEAKER_00]: 100% but thank you for having me guys.
01:07:07.688 --> 01:07:08.228
[SPEAKER_00]: We jumped on.
01:07:08.248 --> 01:07:11.410
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't even plan anything out 40 minutes easy conversation, bro.
01:07:11.450 --> 01:07:12.370
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a nice talk.
01:07:12.491 --> 01:07:17.693
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely thinking about me on, you know, I'm George Carmey, G. Carmey 21 on Twitter.
01:07:17.733 --> 01:07:18.954
[SPEAKER_00]: I do the big Doug and Carmey show.
01:07:18.974 --> 01:07:20.695
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a show every Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
01:07:21.035 --> 01:07:22.095
[SPEAKER_00]: We got some good guests this week.
01:07:22.115 --> 01:07:25.097
[SPEAKER_00]: We have our Martensi Johnson, it's kind of a new, media guy.
01:07:25.157 --> 01:07:26.037
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been coming up.
01:07:26.057 --> 01:07:29.579
[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming on our show on Wednesday, Denton days and to be on their own Friday.
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:31.100
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be kind of fun to talk about to them.
01:07:32.040 --> 01:07:33.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you're more of your right man.
01:07:33.281 --> 01:07:35.022
[SPEAKER_00]: I do some other things to you on Sundays.
01:07:35.423 --> 01:07:39.946
[SPEAKER_00]: I have two on content creators that I'm cool with James and Joe We do best at enemies.
01:07:40.006 --> 01:07:42.748
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a cowboy's equals commanders podcast is fun.
01:07:42.988 --> 01:07:48.412
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of good nuts for about one hour It talks back about the NFC is it's time and then also right.
01:07:48.432 --> 01:07:55.136
[SPEAKER_00]: I do the commanders around table There's a bunch of guys that are like the true journalists from the University of Maryland they graduated You form a lower writing group.
01:07:55.156 --> 01:07:56.778
[SPEAKER_00]: They put me up and I'm on that writing group.
01:07:56.798 --> 01:07:58.179
[SPEAKER_00]: We do that a couple of times a week.
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.180
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's fun Check it out to it
01:08:00.662 --> 01:08:01.302
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is.
01:08:01.322 --> 01:08:02.263
[SPEAKER_03]: The man be working.
01:08:02.923 --> 01:08:05.224
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a more regular job, too.
01:08:05.264 --> 01:08:05.625
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
01:08:05.665 --> 01:08:07.526
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's a lot of pressure.
01:08:08.046 --> 01:08:08.446
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
01:08:08.926 --> 01:08:09.627
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:08:09.647 --> 01:08:10.047
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:08:10.827 --> 01:08:11.288
[SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
01:08:11.688 --> 01:08:12.168
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
01:08:12.188 --> 01:08:14.649
[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to wrap it up for us on this podcast again.
01:08:14.669 --> 01:08:21.753
[SPEAKER_03]: If you haven't done so, make sure you follow George on his socials, but also a big, uh, and Carmy pie case.
01:08:22.093 --> 01:08:24.695
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we'll be back Thursday for our preview.
01:08:25.355 --> 01:08:26.276
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and
01:08:27.276 --> 01:08:41.261
[SPEAKER_03]: Bishananagans, uh, yeah, um, and then we'll have a conversation on Saturday post game right after the final whistle.
01:08:41.541 --> 01:08:42.342
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take it easy man.
01:08:42.362 --> 01:08:43.662
[SPEAKER_03]: Joyos, uh, Tuesday.
01:08:43.682 --> 01:08:44.442
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll say something.
01:08:44.702 --> 01:08:45.583
[SPEAKER_03]: Joyos, Tuesday.
01:08:45.883 --> 01:08:46.803
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be about it man.
01:08:49.364 --> 01:09:06.613
[SPEAKER_01]: Watchin' throw the bump, we gon' pick it up You gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up You gon' play through for the longer, you gon' put it up You're the funny side, you hit it, put your pants in Don't be lookin' for the rest, you don't know flags in Keep the helmet on, keep the police tight You the type you wanna win by any means, right?
01:09:06.974 --> 01:09:09.075
[SPEAKER_01]: You should look alive, this is trapping down
