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Crouching on the edge, he places his hand against the granite,
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spreading his fingers wide and feeling the day's heat radiating
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back into his palm. Below him, more than 7,000 feet
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of empty air yawns open, like it is just beginning
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to wake up as the night begins. In the valley,
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trees begin to blur in the fading light. And the
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immersed river winds through the shadows like a thread of
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energy connecting the rugged landscape to the country beyond. On
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the horizon, the yellows and the oranges from the sun
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bleed into red. And as the sky stretches overhead, the
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purples give way to tiny bulbs of light scattered throughout
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the black. Even though he has seen this sunset a
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million times, it never gets old. Checking his gear one
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more time, he stands and looks to his friend.
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Ready? He asks.
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And the only acknowledgement he receives is a nod of
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the head. What they are doing is illegal, and they
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already have a plan in place for when they land,
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for trouble is never very far away. For a moment,
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he just breathes, in through the nose, out through the mouth.
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The voices running through his head are filled with doubt,
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nearly shouting that face jumping is not about if you die,
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but when. Instead of giving them space to expand, he
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steps to the edge and looks out at the ridge below.
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This silences the noise. Before them, there is a V-shaped
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notch in the ridge. That is their target location. His
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toes hang over nothing. The wind hits him full on,
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no shelter, just the raw push of air rising up
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from the valley floor. He buckles his helmet, gives it
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a gentle tug to make sure it is secure, and
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then he leans into it slightly, testing.
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Steady.
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Good. The world narrows as his friend bends his knees
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and springs into the open air.
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And something in his chest unfolds.
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He counts and then he himself shifts his weight. The
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edge seems to crumble under his feet as he too jumps,
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leaning forward so that way he can soar. Wind screams
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past his ears, roaring so loud it becomes almost silent,
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like a special form of white noise made specifically for
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his type of adrenaline. His body knows what to do,
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arms and legs stretching to stabilize in the air. allowing
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the windsuit to do its job and allow him to glide.
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The sunset wraps around him, but he hardly notices. It
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is the ridge that has his full attention. Everything is perfect.
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His friend's silhouette before him, though, seems to be tracking off.
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Something isn't just right. There's a sensation, a prickling, a knowing.
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In the space that exists between control and chaos, He
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feels himself leaning hard on the ladder side. The V-shaped
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cavity in the ridge is closing in on them. Shock
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waves through him as he watches his friend collide with
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the ridge. The window of time for him to do
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something shifts, it narrows, and time runs out. Welcome back
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The last episode I did made me realize how much
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back in some capacity, just trying to find the right
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balance for me. And one of those things that made
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me really excited to do this episode in particular is
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that I read an article and one of the first
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sentences had like the bold letters, there are no rules.
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And it made me think of that commercial. I think
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it's a pizza commercial where the.
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Guy is like, there's no rules.
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And he's ripping his shirt off and someone like back
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behind the camera is like, put your shirt back on.
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And he's like, there is one rule.
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And that is something that is somewhat applicable to this story,
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because even though Yosemite National Park has many rules, one
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of the big ones is that no base jumping is allowed.
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And that was a rule that, among others, Dean Potter
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loved to break. This is a name that you might
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have already heard. Dean was an idol to many rock
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climbers in the 90s and the early 2000s. One of
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the things that drew him to rock climbing was the
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lack of rules and the lack of structure in how
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you were supposed to get things done.
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Instead, you just did it.
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Born on April 14, 1972 to Patricia Dellert, Dean was
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an ambitious child. His father, who has not been named publicly,
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moved the family to Jordan, where he was serving as
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an army colonel in 1977. Outside their home, they had
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a stone wall, and when Dean was only five years old,
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he decided to scale it. Hand over hand, he climbed
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until he slipped and fell and landed on his head.
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He was okay.
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As a mother, I sure would be worried about that.
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But it seemed to be that he found the driving
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point of his life, and he never stopped climbing after this.
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Another example is as a teenager, he saw a metal
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spike high on a cliff and climbed up to investigate it,
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only to later find that he was hundreds of feet
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up with no clear way down. His natural talent became
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evident when he kept his head on and figured it out,
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something that would serve him well over the next few decades.
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He moved to Yosemite National Park in the 1990s after
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dropping out of college and quickly made a name for
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himself among the climbing community. He navigated not only the
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park trails but the routes from base to summit on
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any of the rocks he could find.
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Becoming one of the best.
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Climbers within just a few short years. He got creative
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in his routes and he took on solo ascents as
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well as free solo ascents. A solo ascent just means
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that you are climbing alone without a partner, which can
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still include using rope and self-managing systems for safety. Whereas
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free solo is more.
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You're not climbing with any sort of protection. And so
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if you fall, you fall. That's it.
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Dean was the first person to free climb Half Dome
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and El Capitan in less than 24 hours. And he
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set speed record after speed record on many routes. For
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two decades, while he lived mostly in Yosemite, his passion
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and intensity for the wall inspired others like Alex Honnold.
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as well as many other professionals and recreational climbers who
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wanted to climb walls with the same creativity and curiosity
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that he did. In 1998, he free soloed Half Dome
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and then set and reset speed records on El Cap.
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In 2006, he and his then-wife, Steph Davis, free soloed
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Delicate Arch in Arches National Park in Utah, which ended
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up getting him dropped by... his sponsor Patagonia, because this
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was controversial due to the stone's fragile state. Delicate Arch
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is made of sandstone, so it breaks down much easier
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than granite. You are not allowed to climb Delicate Arch,
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and in an attempt to preserve and protect the rock
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for as long as possible for all people to.
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Enjoy, it's illegal.
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And speaking of Patagonia, he also climbed here as well
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as in the Swiss Alps. So though he lived in
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Yosemite for 22 years, He didn't always stay there. Dean
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frequently looked for new ways to explore the outdoors and
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that expanded with rock climbing and then shifted into slacklining
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where he could be found walking ropes that stretched between
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two cliff points. Then he started experimenting with climbing a
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wall only to push off after he reached more than
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a thousand feet and releasing a parachute on his way down.
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Then clearly this led to base jumping. Now there is
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a very important detail here that likely played a huge
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role in Dean's pursuit and the evolution of his experience
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of adrenaline. And that was that he had some mental
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health challenges that he was constantly navigating. And this mental
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side of things, which we can't really define is likely
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the link between the great climber that Dean would have
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been regardless, and the climber that catapulted him into the
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extraordinary and brave athlete in not just climbing, but slacklining
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and base jumping. His endeavors eventually earned him the nickname
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the Dark Wizard. Sometimes he would be insightful and funny,
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and like a switch flipping, he would shift the conversation
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to something more abrasive, almost like a dark cloud had
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came over him. This shift in personality, while most of
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the time people loved to be around him, was the
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cause for others to feel uncomfortable being there for too long.
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They never knew when that mood was going to change.
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Dean began to freak out before jumps or big climbs,
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and he started to push people away.
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It was likely a bit.
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Of vulnerableness and a sense of like, I'm putting myself
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at risk here. This could be the point where I die,
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which can make anything really hard to process. Then when
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you have others talking to you on top of that,
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it is easy to snap at them and kind of
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force them away unintentionally. It was clear in his videos
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that he took to document his climbs and his jumps
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that he was struggling with what he was doing and
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why he was doing it. Experts who have evaluated this
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footage kind of clump this with runner's high, but bigger.
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Those of us who have experienced runner's high know that
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we don't really want to go out for that run.
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But when we are done, there's a sense of euphoria
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that comes over us.
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And there's this false sense of thinking that the next
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run is going to be easier for us to get
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out and go do. This is kind of similar, but
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on a much more life-threatening level. All of his accomplishments
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are tied to struggle, and while he was incredible and
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shined brilliantly in the public's eye, he had insecurities that
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he privately struggled with that would bring anyone to their knees.
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Dean would roll through periods of really big highs, and
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then this absolute collapse where he would descend into darkness
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before rising out of it again, and the ride would
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begin anew. Again, we cannot diagnose him, but it sure
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seems that he might have been experiencing something more intense
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than just anxiety and depression.
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He still had this desire in him to be great,
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to be the best, and he certainly was that.
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He was successful and admired, and he kept seeking out
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the next big thing, and that also included trying to
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find ways to cope with his mental health. He would
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visit many different doctors throughout his life, trying anything short
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of taking actual antidepressants. Generally speaking, he liked his mind
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and how it pushed him to think outside the box
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and take risks, and he was worried that all would
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stop if he started to take medicine. He called his
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adventures dark arts, which I think is pretty cool, to
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have these things you do and then turn them into
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something that you've created and cultivated for yourself.
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And that's the thing about base jumping.
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You get this intense high during the flight, and it
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peaks when you land your feet back on solid ground.
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But after a while, that high fades and for people
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who base jump as a sport, they have to chase
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that high again.
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In order to feel it at.
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That same intensity, they have to continue to do bigger
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and cooler and more dangerous things. While next to you,
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your friends are dying. Dean knew the risks. He had
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friends dying, but he continued to make jumps. He even
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went as far to acknowledge in his journal, though my
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body is warm inside my nylon suit, I start to
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shiver and wonder if what we're doing is right. Wingsuit
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base jumping feels safe for me, but 25 wingsuit flyers
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have lost their lives this year alone. There must be
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a flaw in our system, a lethal secret beyond my comprehension.
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And I think that this is a really interesting piece
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of insight. And I would like to ask him more
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about the comment on the flaw in the system and
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what system.
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He's referring to.
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If it's just like base jumping in general, if it's
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the person and their mindset, if there's something about the
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people who are base jumping that has them coming back
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for more, even though they know the sport is deadly.
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But still, he is recognizing that the sport is lethal.
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Yet this recognition does not slow him down. Even though
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he is living in Yosemite, Dean traveled to the Eiger
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in Switzerland and base jumped there multiple times where the
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rules for base jumping are much more lax. And he
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does this with his favorite partner of all, Whisper. and
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Australian cattle. Now, before you go feeling any type of
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way about this, Dean took really good care of Whisper.
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He had her fitted with very specific harnesses from professionals
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in the field, and he did multiple test jumps with sized,
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appropriate stuffed animals on his back before he.
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Ever put her in the harness.
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And if you are watching this on YouTube or Patreon,
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I'm going to include a video here that is from
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Dean's YouTube page where he puts a camera on Whisper,
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and let me tell you, this is one happy dog.
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You can tell, and you can tell how much he
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adored her. Ready? Three, two, one, see ya. The very
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first jump that he took with her off Half Dome,
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he said that she was just such a happy dog.
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And look, us dog people know when.
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We see a happy dog and it is a good feeling.
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Dean was also in the process of making a helmet
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for her to protect her ears and her eyes better
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during jumps. since he was conscious that the sound of
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the wind roaring by was probably a lot for a
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dog who has more sensitive hearing than humans do. Whisper,
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as I already mentioned, was an Australian kettle dog, which,
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as you can imagine, they are very high energy. They
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are a type of dog that needs a job, and
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they are unapologetic about it. When they were in Yosemite,
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Dean would often have to hold her mouth shut to
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protect her from barking at rangers as they tried to
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hide in the brush because, again, base jumping was illegal,
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And it's also very relatable and endearing. Whisper was often
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found hiking with Dean and going on these grand adventures
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with him, but that isn't all. As we already discussed,
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Dean struggled with his mental health and nothing helped him
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more than Whisper. Others had commented on how he just
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seemed to melt with her, taking this hard, dark arts,
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brave and bold exterior and allowing it to become something
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a little bit softer with her. Dean had her by
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his side through all of the attention he was receiving.
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He was a global leader in base jumping circles being
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talked about all over the world as he set record
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after record. He was named Adventurer of the Year by
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National Geographic in 2009. He was featured in short films
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such as the Mountain Film Festival and recently Dark Wizard
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was released on HBO. In interviews, Dean was straightforward about
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recognizing the high risks that he was taking, but also
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controlling what he could by making sure his gear was
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in great condition and well taken care of, spending the
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money to buy high quality items, and doing everything he
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could to eliminate human error.
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Base jumping, though, is one of, if not the most
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dangerous sports out there.
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In 2025, there were between 29 and 38 deaths, depending
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on what source you look at. According to skydivingguides.com, the
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past eight years have held relatively steady with how many
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deaths occur in base jumping, with going from 2018 to 2025,
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those numbers being 28, 25, 12, 18, 24, 27, 22,
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and 29. The year of the 12 and the 18
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were during 2020 and 2021 COVID shutdowns. BASE is an
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acronym for the objects that are, I will say, acceptable
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to jump from, but it's essentially a fixed object. So
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B for building, A for antenna, S for spans, so
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bridges and arches, and then E for earth. Unlike skydiving,
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these altitudes are much smaller than a person leaping from
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a plane, meaning that they have a small window to
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free fall and then deploy their parachute to come to
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the ground, which also means that the death rate of
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face jumping is high, 43 times higher than skydiving, in fact.
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The question in base jumping is not if you are
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going to die, but when. Base jumping was banned by
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the National Park Service due to the risks that came
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with it, and Yosemite was no stranger to this. Yosemite was,
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and still is, a place that is sacred to climbers.
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Many meet here on an annual basis for some of
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the best climbing the United States has to offer. and
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some even live here all year round, navigating the rules
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and rangers in order to stay. Located in the Sierra
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Nevada mountains in California, Yosemite was established as a national
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park on October 1st, 1890. It holds nearly 1,200 square miles,
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or roughly the size of the state of Rhode Island,
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within its boundaries. Here you will find some of the
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most pristine blue waters raging over the 25 named waterfalls
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within the park, There are old growth forests, redwoods stretching
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into the sky, meadows of tall grasses, and during the
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right seasons, blooming with thousands and thousands of brilliantly colored flowers.
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The stargazing here is unlike anywhere else, thanks to the
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lack of light pollution. Yosemite holds space for anyone and everyone.
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Here you can hike, mountain bike, trail ride on horses,
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go fishing, rafting.
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And of course, climbing.
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There are 750 miles of trails, and generally speaking, you
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are safe. Wolves and bears used to roam the grounds,
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but while there are no established wolf packs in Yosemite,
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a lone wolf can occasionally be seen. Yosemite holds some
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of the most spectacular climbing spaces, cliffs, and drop-offs that
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one will find in North America. This is thanks to
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the hulking glaciers that carved through the granite, and as
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they receded, they left behind the iconic structures we see
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today of El Cap, Half Dome, Taft Point, and many others.
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That we are aware of There were four glaciers in Yosemite,
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with only two remaining today, but they are projected to
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melt away between the years of 2050 and 2100. Lyle
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Glacier has lost 60% of its volume and has stopped moving,
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while McClure Glacier is noted to be rapidly shrinking and
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is also no longer moving. There truly is something here
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for everyone, including those who like to get their hearts
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racing by leaping off of cliffs, which started in Yosemite
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in the summer of 1966 with Mike Pelkey and Bryant Schubert,
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who were climbing the summit of El Cap with bags,
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carrying their parachute equipment.
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And then they jumped.
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And this began a long history of Yosemite National Park
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facing off with base jumpers. Some of the stories are funny,
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like the very first jump where Bryant and Mike ended
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up getting bustled about by the wind and injured their legs,
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not badly.
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On landing. Park rangers accompanied the men.
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To the hospital and while they still had to do
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their job, they were excited to talk to them about
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what the jump was like. But this opened up the
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floodgates for jumpers everywhere. Later, there were people just being
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funny and having fun and soaring into the air on
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pogo sticks and stilts and skateboards. They were just Living
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the dream. Because base jumping was illegal in the park,
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rangers would have to stake out and basically arrest jumpers
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when they landed, which resulted in some not-so-great stories, including
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in the June of 1999 when Frank Gamboli II landed
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in Yosemite Valley after jumping from El Cap. He unbuckled
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his parachute and left it behind as he ran off
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with Rangers right on his tail. The Rangers ended up
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losing him at Merced River, where Frank had decided to
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jump in to avoid arrest and the $ 2, 000.
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Fine, along with potential jail time.
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This, though, ended up being a tragedy when his body
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was recovered from the river a month later. This opened
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up the conversation to, you know, Frank and everyone else,
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wouldn't feel the need to run and escape if base
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jumping was legal and rangers weren't there to arrest them.
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And they wouldn't do something.
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Like leap into a flooded river and drown because if
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they didn't have to run. But then on the other
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side of it, I can completely understand where somebody would
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be able to argue that if you would just follow
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the rules, then you also wouldn't have to run and
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you wouldn't have to jump into a flooded river and
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you wouldn't potentially drown. So there's arguments on both sides,
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but it wasn't just the arrest and the fines that
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they were dealing with. Rangers would confiscate their gear as well,
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which was very expensive. There isn't an easy or cheap
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way to replace that. That being said, though, the national
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park's purpose is to conserve natural scenery, wildlife, and historic
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objects while leaving them unimpaired for public enjoyment. which means
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that they protect the lands, the ecosystems, the animals, the wildlife,
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and they provide a place for all of us to
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be able to enjoy the environment and the space as
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it is. While you can generally predict where you are
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going to land in base jumping, there are outliers where
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the wind blows you off course. Repeated landing in the
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same areas is hard on that specific ecosystem. potentially causing
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it to break down and then spread to other areas.
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Not to mention, not everyone would love to see people
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jumping off of cliffs, whether it was for base jumping
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or I can also see it being, especially today with
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technology that if someone sees another person jumping off of
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a cliff and they don't know what is going on,
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there could be the potential that rangers are being used
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to check out a situation that is unnecessary and therefore
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using resources that could be used elsewhere. On the other hand,
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Say someone falls or purposefully jumps without a parachute. Others
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might see the beginning of this and they just kind
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of brush it off as, oh, this is just another
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base jumper and not offer any help. And then someone
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is suffering unnecessarily. I guess what I'm saying is that
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I see both sides and the park did too. They
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actually started allowing 12 permits per day in 1980, but
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they quickly realized that people are still going to jump
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whether they had a permit or not. This idea was nixed,
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and then the next idea they came up with was
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similar to what we see in New River Gorge National Park,
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where they do an event where people could jump on
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a very specific day. But unlike New River Gorge, this
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wasn't an event, it was a protest. The caveat was
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that the five people who jumped would be arrested. they
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would give up without a chase, they would not fight
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being arrested, and their gear would be surrendered as well.
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This leads to a really tragic tale of BASE jumping
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history as hundreds of people crowded into the valley to
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watch the spectacle. Four men and one woman were situated
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and ready to go on October 22, 1999, where Jan
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Davis was representing women everywhere. She was making her way
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to the cliff edge in an iconic black and white
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pinstriped suit wearing poking fun at what they were doing
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and the fact that she was going to be arrested.
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Jan was known for being a spectacle by dressing in
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crazy outfits as she had previously jumped in red lingerie.
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And because she knew that her gear was going to
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be confiscated, she asked to borrow gear so that hers
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would not be taken. Unfortunately, the ripcord for the parachute
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release was on the side of her leg in this
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new gear, which is very different from her own gear
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where the cord was at the small of her back.
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The media was here for the event, and in the
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video footage, you can see as Jan steps to the
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edge of the cliff as she stretches her arms out
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and leapt. For seconds, there are cheers and everyone is excited,
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but as the camera zooms in, you very quickly get
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the sense that everything is going wrong. Jan is clutching
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at the small of her back for the cord.
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That isn't there.
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And as time seems to slow down and no parachute
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is released, everyone realizes in the moment where she hits
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the ground that the stunt has gone very, very wrong.
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The force of Jan hitting the ground after free-falling 3,000
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feet resulted in a two-foot crater in the parking lot
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and the nearby car crash. alarms started going off. So
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clearly this protest was a failure. And instead of convincing
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everyone how the national parks and base jumpers could get along,
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it just highlighted how devastating base jumping becomes. One of
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the men frequently jumping with Dean was Graham Hunt. For
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at least five years, he had been regularly taking on
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new challenges with Dean. While he wasn't very well known
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in the climbing or base jumping world as a local,
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his name was tossed around with awe. Graham was from
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Shingle Springs, California, where he worked all over the western
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states fighting wildfires as a hotshot, which is a wildlife firefighter.
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But then when he moved to Yosemite at 22 years old,
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he just kind of wanted to live life. He had
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no car, no job, just living and climbing and having
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a ball. He is described as kind, courageous, and mindful.
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He wanted to be a better human. When Graham and
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Dean met, their athleticism made them a clear match to
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partner together. They really leaned into wingsuit-based jumping, which not
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only requires expensive gear, but it also requires a specific
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amount of dedicated training, where a jumper slowly increases height
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and difficulty of truth. of jumps and terrain over a
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long period of time. This is not something that someone
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just leaps into, pun intended. The wingsuit has this strip
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of fabric between the arms and the legs of a
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person and a triangle of fabric between the legs, almost
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like becoming a flying squirrel. In Europe, this is much
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more common as there are fewer regulations and the jump
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locations tend to be a little bit more accessible. Dean specifically,
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if not Graham as well, was extremely experienced when it
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came to many different types of outdoor recreation activities. Yet
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with base jumping, again, it is when, not if. And
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wingsuit base jumping is much more deadly than non-wingsuit base jumping.
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And this is because wingsuits are used in what is
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called proximity flying, where people will fly and soar their
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way past and through different terrains offered in a given area.
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In Yosemite, That means cliffs and ridges and solid granite stone.
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On May 16, 2015, Dean and Graham climbed to the
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top of Taft Point with the intent to jump and
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sail through a notch in the jagged ridgeline just below them.
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It was 7.30 p.m., and this was a normal time
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for them to jump. Since it was illegal, Dean was
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regularly jumping either early in the morning or later in
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the evening to avoid detection. On this day, which was
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a Saturday, Dean, Graham, and Dean's girlfriend, Jen Rapp, hiked
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the roughly mile-long trail to Taft Point, which stands at 7,700
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feet in elevation, or 2,345 meters. From the peak, you
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can see El Cap, Cathedral Rocks, Yosemite Falls, and the fissures,
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which are deep vertical cracks in the granite at.
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The cliff's edge.
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And they just plunge the 3,000 feet or 915 meters
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to the valley floor. Today, if you were to stand
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on Taft Point, you would see Lost Brother Notch standing
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out on the ridgeline below. This notch is the 30-foot
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wide V-shaped gap that Dean and Graham were going to
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soar through. It needs to be mentioned that this notch
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is 30 feet wide at the top, Not the base.
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It's 7.35 p.m.
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And Dean has a camera mounted to his helmet rolling.
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He is standing in his red suit and Graham is
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just before him in black and yellow. Graham texts his girlfriend,
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Rebecca Hain, who is waiting for them on the valley
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floor in their intended landing spot.
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Ready?
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It reads. And then he zips his phone into his
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pocket before turning to the cliff. Graham jumps, followed closely
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by Dean. The notch sits around 1000 feet down and
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1500 feet out from their starting point or 305 meters.
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and 457 meters out. The fabric stretched between their arms
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and legs is pulled taunt in the wind. carrying them
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down and out, exactly as they want. At this point, Jen,
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while taking photos, loses sight of them, and just as
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she turns to head down the trail to meet them
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in the valley, she hears a thwack, followed by a second.
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The fading sun is eerily silent as she shouts their names,
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and the silence stays with her as she rushes back
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down the trail. When Jen gets down and finds Rebecca,
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she finds that Dean and Graham aren't there. They look
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around for a while, texting and texting again, hoping that
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they just got off course and landed and are making
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their way back to meet up with them. Or maybe
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they were so excited about their accomplishments that they decided
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to head to a nearby bar for celebratory drinks. But
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as evening turns into night and later shifts into the
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next day, they finally head to park officials to report
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Dean and Graham missing. At first, officials hear this story
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and they're like, okay, maybe they're hiding somewhere because they
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saw a park ranger and they didn't want to be arrested. Remember,
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Space jumping is illegal in the parks. Then they were like, wait,
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maybe they did run into a ranger and maybe they've
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been arrested. But Sunday morning, regardless, with the rising sun,
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officials start their search within the park. Park rangers and
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volunteers walk the trails and in the air are helicopters
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from the California Highway Patrol. It does not take long
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for the crew and one of the helicopters to spot
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two bodies on the rock wall. just below the notch
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that Dean and Graham had been trying to clear. Their
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bodies were recovered and an investigation began to figure out
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what happened. What they determined, thanks to Dean's camera, was
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that Graham nicked the notch in the upper right-hand side
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as he entered it. It is unclear if Dean saw
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this and tried to roll or avoid the same path,
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or if he had already been on a collision course himself.
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Dean then slammed into the bottom of the notch. Both
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were going over 100 miles per hour and both died
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on impact. Their entire final flight lasted less than 30 seconds.
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Dean was 43 years old and slammed into the ridge headfirst.
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where Graham, who was 29 years old, struck the rock
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with the front of his body. It is impossible to
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clearly know what went wrong on this jump, but others
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have surmised that it could have been any or a
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combination of variables, including misjudged distances and elevation, distraction during
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the jump, or even air turbulence. It did not take
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long for the news of this loss to spread. Park
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spokesman Scott Gettyman knew Dean and commented on how much
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he loved the park and what it stood for. Even
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though he was doing something illegal, he emphasized how tragic
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this loss of life was. Friends saw pictures of the
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two men circulating and without reading the caption, knew that
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the men were dead. Sean Reeder commented on how hard
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it is to lose one friend, but two at the
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same time is devastating, though he takes comfort in knowing
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they died doing something that they loved. Something that they
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knew was dangerous. They knew that continuing to base jump
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is a ticking time bomb. And that there would be
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no docking for cover when it finally went off. They
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looked death in the face and they jumped anyways. Friends
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in their grief still celebrated their two friends who were
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chasing their dream and living their lives to the fullest.
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Conversations have been shared on all angles, focusing on the
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fact that there are rules and if you break them,
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you have to accept the punishment. That rangers are supposed
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to uphold the rules for which they work. and that
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if these people break the rules, the least they could
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do is abide by the rangers when they come calling.
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No matter where you go or what you're doing, someone
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is breaking rules. This can be seen every day with
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the speed limits, red lights, and jaywalking. The park rangers'
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jobs are to enforce their rules, just like any other officer,
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and just like any other officer, when they find themselves
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in a situation where things don't go as planned, They
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are the ones cleaning up the body left behind. Not
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to mention the environmental impact on the land itself, the
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fragile vegetation that sometimes lives only in one area of
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the park, and how to do it without creating distraction
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or spectacle for all other visitors. There are many who
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don't agree with BASE jumpers or think that the choice
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they made with their own life was okay. Those who
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have been most vocal over the years call Dean and
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Graham reckless. Many in the online space have implied that
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playing stupid games wins you stupid prizes, insinuating more viciously
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that base jumping is illegal for a reason. And if
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you don't abide by the rules and you end up dead,
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then they don't feel bad. There is so much I
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could say here, but I don't believe that these men
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were being reckless or they clearly did not deserve to die.
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They took care of their very expensive gear. They were
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mindful and aware of the mistakes and what those mistakes
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would cost. They had Jen at the launch point and
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Rebecca at the landing spot, putting those they cared about
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in a position to witness what they did and would
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have been cruel to that, you know, I'm doing this
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on purpose, like today's the day I'm going to die
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and these girls are going to witness that. Jumping is
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always the jumper's choice, yet they still seemed aware of
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their own impact on the park around them. When things
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go good, there is no question that things could work
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out for everyone.
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It is when things go wrong.
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When search and rescue has to find a missing jumper,
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when the rescue turns into a recovery, and when that
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recovery is occurring in a really technical area that is
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difficult to access, it is hard to keep a clear
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head about the reasons behind the adrenaline pump. Jumpers are
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conscious of their choice, yet there seems to be a
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disconnect for when they choose to live a life that
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included risk and they manage that risk as much as
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they could, just like you and I do driving to
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and from work every day. just like we all do
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when we step on a plane or walk our dogs.
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There is risk sitting at our desks, eating lunch in
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our climate-controlled rooms, and going to bed each night in
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our homes. As we start to wrap up this episode,
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I think it is worth mentioning that no matter what
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activity a person is doing, no matter what, a death
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is still a loss, even if the person was breaking
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the rules or doing something that you yourself could never understand.
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That loss is still felt.
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Somewhere out there, a girlfriend, a wife, a brother, a mother, father, sons, daughters, sisters, friends,
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all these people who cared about this person are weeping.
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The rescue teams have to step in and mourn yet
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another life that they have to bring home in the
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most respectful way that they can. It is not just
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Dean and Graham who lost their lives. It's everyone who
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had plans with them. Alex Honnold, who is a climber
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who needs no introduction, wrote something out that I think
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clearly sums up this discussion.
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And so I am going to read it word for word.
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Quote, there have been wildly divided responses to his death,
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ranging from deep respect for a man who greatly influenced
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his sport to unchecked contempt for someone who threw his
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life away. squandering what's most precious in search of the
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next cheap thrill. Many people question the value or even
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sanity in such risk-taking. They assume that Dean must have
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been a selfish monster to hurt his family and friends
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in such a way. The most common kind of criticism
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was some version of, he owes it to others to
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stay alive. These types of comments really rankled me because
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they belittle how much thought and effort Dean invested in
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his arts. No one spends 20 years at the cutting
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edge of their sport by being an adrenaline junkie all
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the time. Most people had only seen his climbing and
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flying through short YouTube videos and never got a glimpse
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of the years of training behind them. Dean actually had
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a thoughtful and conservative approach, building up to things slowly
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over time as he became physically and psychologically prepared. Some
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argued that it was immoral to risk his life. Yet
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many Americans risk their health every day through largely avoidable
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diet and lifestyle choices. I was 19 when my father
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died from a heart attack. He was a 55-year-old college
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professor and had led what was, by all appearances, a
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risk-free life. But he was overweight and heart disease runs
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in our family. No matter the risks we take, we
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always consider the end to be too soon. Even though
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in life, more than anything else, quality should be more
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important than quantity. Dean's pursuits were impractical and unrealistic, and
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yet he was romantically devoted to them. And that dedication
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is what allowed him to help shape his sport for
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almost 20 years. His death has reminded me to reflect
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carefully on my own decisions about risk. There's a constant
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tension in climbing and really all exploration between pushing yourself
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into the unknown, but trying not to push too far.
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The best any of us can do is tread that
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line carefully. Dean was making his choices clear-eyed. He knew
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the risks in his life, and he was still willing
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to pursue his dreams. How many of the rest of
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us live with that kind of attention?
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End quote.
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So now we're back to me. Dean was one of
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the most iconic climbers of his time, and that translated
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well into base jumping and slacklining. He evolved with this
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community of those who loved adrenaline, pushing boundaries, and defining
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what it felt like to be human. To say that
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he was one of the most revered climbers would be
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an understatement, yet there is something that still holds more true.
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In the world of extreme sports, it doesn't matter how
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experienced you are, how skilled you are, or how much
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you love it, the margins for mistakes are small. So
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small that in certain cases, the hands on the clock
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start ticking in your brain. Each tick of a second
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seems louder and louder.
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Time is moving too fast.
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By the time you realize that you need to adjust,
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that things aren't going to pan out, your time is up.
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Sources for this episode include nps.gov, newyorktimes.com, outsideonline.com, people.com, time.com, alpinist.com, medium.com,
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and redbull.com. Thank you so much for joining me. And
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Crouching on the edge, he places his hand against the granite,
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spreading his fingers wide and feeling the day's heat radiating
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back into his palm. Below him, more than 7,000 feet
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of empty air yawns open, like it is just beginning
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to wake up as the night begins. In the valley,
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trees begin to blur in the fading light. And the
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immersed river winds through the shadows like a thread of
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energy connecting the rugged landscape to the country beyond. On
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the horizon, the yellows and the oranges from the sun
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bleed into red. And as the sky stretches overhead, the
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purples give way to tiny bulbs of light scattered throughout
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the black. Even though he has seen this sunset a
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million times, it never gets old. Checking his gear one
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more time, he stands and looks to his friend.
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Ready? He asks.
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And the only acknowledgement he receives is a nod of
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the head. What they are doing is illegal, and they
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already have a plan in place for when they land,
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for trouble is never very far away. For a moment,
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he just breathes, in through the nose, out through the mouth.
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The voices running through his head are filled with doubt,
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nearly shouting that face jumping is not about if you die,
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but when. Instead of giving them space to expand, he
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steps to the edge and looks out at the ridge below.
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This silences the noise. Before them, there is a V-shaped
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notch in the ridge. That is their target location. His
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toes hang over nothing. The wind hits him full on,
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no shelter, just the raw push of air rising up
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from the valley floor. He buckles his helmet, gives it
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a gentle tug to make sure it is secure, and
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then he leans into it slightly, testing.
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Steady.
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Good. The world narrows as his friend bends his knees
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and springs into the open air.
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And something in his chest unfolds.
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He counts and then he himself shifts his weight. The
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edge seems to crumble under his feet as he too jumps,
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leaning forward so that way he can soar. Wind screams
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past his ears, roaring so loud it becomes almost silent,
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like a special form of white noise made specifically for
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his type of adrenaline. His body knows what to do,
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arms and legs stretching to stabilize in the air. allowing
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the windsuit to do its job and allow him to glide.
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The sunset wraps around him, but he hardly notices. It
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is the ridge that has his full attention. Everything is perfect.
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His friend's silhouette before him, though, seems to be tracking off.
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Something isn't just right. There's a sensation, a prickling, a knowing.
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In the space that exists between control and chaos, He
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feels himself leaning hard on the ladder side. The V-shaped
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cavity in the ridge is closing in on them. Shock
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waves through him as he watches his friend collide with
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the ridge. The window of time for him to do
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something shifts, it narrows, and time runs out. Welcome back
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The last episode I did made me realize how much
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back in some capacity, just trying to find the right
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me really excited to do this episode in particular is
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that I read an article and one of the first
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sentences had like the bold letters, there are no rules.
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And it made me think of that commercial. I think
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it's a pizza commercial where the.
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Guy is like, there's no rules.
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And he's ripping his shirt off and someone like back
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behind the camera is like, put your shirt back on.
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And he's like, there is one rule.
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And that is something that is somewhat applicable to this story,
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because even though Yosemite National Park has many rules, one
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of the big ones is that no base jumping is allowed.
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And that was a rule that, among others, Dean Potter
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loved to break. This is a name that you might
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have already heard. Dean was an idol to many rock
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climbers in the 90s and the early 2000s. One of
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the things that drew him to rock climbing was the
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lack of rules and the lack of structure in how
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you were supposed to get things done.
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Instead, you just did it.
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Born on April 14, 1972 to Patricia Dellert, Dean was
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an ambitious child. His father, who has not been named publicly,
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moved the family to Jordan, where he was serving as
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an army colonel in 1977. Outside their home, they had
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a stone wall, and when Dean was only five years old,
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he decided to scale it. Hand over hand, he climbed
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until he slipped and fell and landed on his head.
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He was okay.
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As a mother, I sure would be worried about that.
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But it seemed to be that he found the driving
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point of his life, and he never stopped climbing after this.
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Another example is as a teenager, he saw a metal
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spike high on a cliff and climbed up to investigate it,
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only to later find that he was hundreds of feet
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up with no clear way down. His natural talent became
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evident when he kept his head on and figured it out,
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something that would serve him well over the next few decades.
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He moved to Yosemite National Park in the 1990s after
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dropping out of college and quickly made a name for
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himself among the climbing community. He navigated not only the
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park trails but the routes from base to summit on
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any of the rocks he could find.
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Becoming one of the best.
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Climbers within just a few short years. He got creative
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in his routes and he took on solo ascents as
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well as free solo ascents. A solo ascent just means
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that you are climbing alone without a partner, which can
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still include using rope and self-managing systems for safety. Whereas
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free solo is more.
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You're not climbing with any sort of protection. And so
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if you fall, you fall. That's it.
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Dean was the first person to free climb Half Dome
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and El Capitan in less than 24 hours. And he
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set speed record after speed record on many routes. For
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two decades, while he lived mostly in Yosemite, his passion
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and intensity for the wall inspired others like Alex Honnold.
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as well as many other professionals and recreational climbers who
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wanted to climb walls with the same creativity and curiosity
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that he did. In 1998, he free soloed Half Dome
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and then set and reset speed records on El Cap.
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In 2006, he and his then-wife, Steph Davis, free soloed
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Delicate Arch in Arches National Park in Utah, which ended
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up getting him dropped by... his sponsor Patagonia, because this
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was controversial due to the stone's fragile state. Delicate Arch
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is made of sandstone, so it breaks down much easier
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than granite. You are not allowed to climb Delicate Arch,
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and in an attempt to preserve and protect the rock
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for as long as possible for all people to.
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Enjoy, it's illegal.
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And speaking of Patagonia, he also climbed here as well
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as in the Swiss Alps. So though he lived in
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Yosemite for 22 years, He didn't always stay there. Dean
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frequently looked for new ways to explore the outdoors and
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that expanded with rock climbing and then shifted into slacklining
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where he could be found walking ropes that stretched between
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two cliff points. Then he started experimenting with climbing a
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wall only to push off after he reached more than
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a thousand feet and releasing a parachute on his way down.
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Then clearly this led to base jumping. Now there is
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a very important detail here that likely played a huge
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role in Dean's pursuit and the evolution of his experience
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of adrenaline. And that was that he had some mental
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health challenges that he was constantly navigating. And this mental
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side of things, which we can't really define is likely
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the link between the great climber that Dean would have
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been regardless, and the climber that catapulted him into the
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extraordinary and brave athlete in not just climbing, but slacklining
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and base jumping. His endeavors eventually earned him the nickname
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the Dark Wizard. Sometimes he would be insightful and funny,
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and like a switch flipping, he would shift the conversation
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to something more abrasive, almost like a dark cloud had
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came over him. This shift in personality, while most of
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the time people loved to be around him, was the
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cause for others to feel uncomfortable being there for too long.
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They never knew when that mood was going to change.
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Dean began to freak out before jumps or big climbs,
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and he started to push people away.
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It was likely a bit.
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Of vulnerableness and a sense of like, I'm putting myself
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at risk here. This could be the point where I die,
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which can make anything really hard to process. Then when
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you have others talking to you on top of that,
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it is easy to snap at them and kind of
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force them away unintentionally. It was clear in his videos
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that he took to document his climbs and his jumps
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that he was struggling with what he was doing and
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why he was doing it. Experts who have evaluated this
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footage kind of clump this with runner's high, but bigger.
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Those of us who have experienced runner's high know that
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we don't really want to go out for that run.
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But when we are done, there's a sense of euphoria
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that comes over us.
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And there's this false sense of thinking that the next
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run is going to be easier for us to get
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out and go do. This is kind of similar, but
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on a much more life-threatening level. All of his accomplishments
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are tied to struggle, and while he was incredible and
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shined brilliantly in the public's eye, he had insecurities that
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he privately struggled with that would bring anyone to their knees.
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Dean would roll through periods of really big highs, and
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then this absolute collapse where he would descend into darkness
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before rising out of it again, and the ride would
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begin anew. Again, we cannot diagnose him, but it sure
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seems that he might have been experiencing something more intense
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than just anxiety and depression.
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He still had this desire in him to be great,
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to be the best, and he certainly was that.
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He was successful and admired, and he kept seeking out
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the next big thing, and that also included trying to
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find ways to cope with his mental health. He would
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visit many different doctors throughout his life, trying anything short
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of taking actual antidepressants. Generally speaking, he liked his mind
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and how it pushed him to think outside the box
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and take risks, and he was worried that all would
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stop if he started to take medicine. He called his
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adventures dark arts, which I think is pretty cool, to
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have these things you do and then turn them into
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something that you've created and cultivated for yourself.
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And that's the thing about base jumping.
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You get this intense high during the flight, and it
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peaks when you land your feet back on solid ground.
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But after a while, that high fades and for people
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who base jump as a sport, they have to chase
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that high again.
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In order to feel it at.
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That same intensity, they have to continue to do bigger
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and cooler and more dangerous things. While next to you,
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your friends are dying. Dean knew the risks. He had
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friends dying, but he continued to make jumps. He even
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went as far to acknowledge in his journal, though my
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body is warm inside my nylon suit, I start to
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shiver and wonder if what we're doing is right. Wingsuit
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base jumping feels safe for me, but 25 wingsuit flyers
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have lost their lives this year alone. There must be
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a flaw in our system, a lethal secret beyond my comprehension.
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And I think that this is a really interesting piece
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of insight. And I would like to ask him more
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about the comment on the flaw in the system and
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what system.
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He's referring to.
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If it's just like base jumping in general, if it's
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the person and their mindset, if there's something about the
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people who are base jumping that has them coming back
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for more, even though they know the sport is deadly.
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But still, he is recognizing that the sport is lethal.
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Yet this recognition does not slow him down. Even though
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he is living in Yosemite, Dean traveled to the Eiger
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in Switzerland and base jumped there multiple times where the
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rules for base jumping are much more lax. And he
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does this with his favorite partner of all, Whisper. and
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Australian cattle. Now, before you go feeling any type of
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way about this, Dean took really good care of Whisper.
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He had her fitted with very specific harnesses from professionals
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in the field, and he did multiple test jumps with sized,
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appropriate stuffed animals on his back before he.
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Ever put her in the harness.
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And if you are watching this on YouTube or Patreon,
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I'm going to include a video here that is from
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Dean's YouTube page where he puts a camera on Whisper,
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and let me tell you, this is one happy dog.
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You can tell, and you can tell how much he
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adored her. Ready? Three, two, one, see ya. The very
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first jump that he took with her off Half Dome,
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he said that she was just such a happy dog.
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And look, us dog people know when.
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We see a happy dog and it is a good feeling.
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Dean was also in the process of making a helmet
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for her to protect her ears and her eyes better
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during jumps. since he was conscious that the sound of
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the wind roaring by was probably a lot for a
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dog who has more sensitive hearing than humans do. Whisper,
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as I already mentioned, was an Australian kettle dog, which,
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as you can imagine, they are very high energy. They
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are a type of dog that needs a job, and
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they are unapologetic about it. When they were in Yosemite,
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Dean would often have to hold her mouth shut to
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protect her from barking at rangers as they tried to
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hide in the brush because, again, base jumping was illegal,
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And it's also very relatable and endearing. Whisper was often
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found hiking with Dean and going on these grand adventures
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with him, but that isn't all. As we already discussed,
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Dean struggled with his mental health and nothing helped him
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more than Whisper. Others had commented on how he just
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seemed to melt with her, taking this hard, dark arts,
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brave and bold exterior and allowing it to become something
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a little bit softer with her. Dean had her by
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his side through all of the attention he was receiving.
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He was a global leader in base jumping circles being
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talked about all over the world as he set record
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after record. He was named Adventurer of the Year by
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National Geographic in 2009. He was featured in short films
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such as the Mountain Film Festival and recently Dark Wizard
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was released on HBO. In interviews, Dean was straightforward about
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recognizing the high risks that he was taking, but also
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controlling what he could by making sure his gear was
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in great condition and well taken care of, spending the
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money to buy high quality items, and doing everything he
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could to eliminate human error.
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Base jumping, though, is one of, if not the most
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dangerous sports out there.
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In 2025, there were between 29 and 38 deaths, depending
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on what source you look at. According to skydivingguides.com, the
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past eight years have held relatively steady with how many
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deaths occur in base jumping, with going from 2018 to 2025,
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those numbers being 28, 25, 12, 18, 24, 27, 22,
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and 29. The year of the 12 and the 18
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were during 2020 and 2021 COVID shutdowns. BASE is an
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acronym for the objects that are, I will say, acceptable
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to jump from, but it's essentially a fixed object. So
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B for building, A for antenna, S for spans, so
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bridges and arches, and then E for earth. Unlike skydiving,
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these altitudes are much smaller than a person leaping from
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a plane, meaning that they have a small window to
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free fall and then deploy their parachute to come to
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the ground, which also means that the death rate of
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face jumping is high, 43 times higher than skydiving, in fact.
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The question in base jumping is not if you are
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going to die, but when. Base jumping was banned by
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the National Park Service due to the risks that came
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with it, and Yosemite was no stranger to this. Yosemite was,
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and still is, a place that is sacred to climbers.
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Many meet here on an annual basis for some of
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the best climbing the United States has to offer. and
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some even live here all year round, navigating the rules
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and rangers in order to stay. Located in the Sierra
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Nevada mountains in California, Yosemite was established as a national
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park on October 1st, 1890. It holds nearly 1,200 square miles,
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or roughly the size of the state of Rhode Island,
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within its boundaries. Here you will find some of the
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most pristine blue waters raging over the 25 named waterfalls
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within the park, There are old growth forests, redwoods stretching
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into the sky, meadows of tall grasses, and during the
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right seasons, blooming with thousands and thousands of brilliantly colored flowers.
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The stargazing here is unlike anywhere else, thanks to the
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lack of light pollution. Yosemite holds space for anyone and everyone.
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Here you can hike, mountain bike, trail ride on horses,
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go fishing, rafting.
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And of course, climbing.
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There are 750 miles of trails, and generally speaking, you
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are safe. Wolves and bears used to roam the grounds,
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but while there are no established wolf packs in Yosemite,
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a lone wolf can occasionally be seen. Yosemite holds some
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of the most spectacular climbing spaces, cliffs, and drop-offs that
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one will find in North America. This is thanks to
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the hulking glaciers that carved through the granite, and as
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they receded, they left behind the iconic structures we see
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today of El Cap, Half Dome, Taft Point, and many others.
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That we are aware of There were four glaciers in Yosemite,
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with only two remaining today, but they are projected to
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melt away between the years of 2050 and 2100. Lyle
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Glacier has lost 60% of its volume and has stopped moving,
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while McClure Glacier is noted to be rapidly shrinking and
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is also no longer moving. There truly is something here
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for everyone, including those who like to get their hearts
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racing by leaping off of cliffs, which started in Yosemite
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in the summer of 1966 with Mike Pelkey and Bryant Schubert,
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who were climbing the summit of El Cap with bags,
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carrying their parachute equipment.
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And then they jumped.
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And this began a long history of Yosemite National Park
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facing off with base jumpers. Some of the stories are funny,
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like the very first jump where Bryant and Mike ended
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up getting bustled about by the wind and injured their legs,
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not badly.
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On landing. Park rangers accompanied the men.
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To the hospital and while they still had to do
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their job, they were excited to talk to them about
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what the jump was like. But this opened up the
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floodgates for jumpers everywhere. Later, there were people just being
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funny and having fun and soaring into the air on
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pogo sticks and stilts and skateboards. They were just Living
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the dream. Because base jumping was illegal in the park,
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rangers would have to stake out and basically arrest jumpers
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when they landed, which resulted in some not-so-great stories, including
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in the June of 1999 when Frank Gamboli II landed
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in Yosemite Valley after jumping from El Cap. He unbuckled
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his parachute and left it behind as he ran off
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with Rangers right on his tail. The Rangers ended up
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losing him at Merced River, where Frank had decided to
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jump in to avoid arrest and the $ 2, 000.
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Fine, along with potential jail time.
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This, though, ended up being a tragedy when his body
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was recovered from the river a month later. This opened
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up the conversation to, you know, Frank and everyone else,
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wouldn't feel the need to run and escape if base
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jumping was legal and rangers weren't there to arrest them.
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And they wouldn't do something.
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Like leap into a flooded river and drown because if
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they didn't have to run. But then on the other
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side of it, I can completely understand where somebody would
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be able to argue that if you would just follow
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the rules, then you also wouldn't have to run and
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you wouldn't have to jump into a flooded river and
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you wouldn't potentially drown. So there's arguments on both sides,
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but it wasn't just the arrest and the fines that
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they were dealing with. Rangers would confiscate their gear as well,
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which was very expensive. There isn't an easy or cheap
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way to replace that. That being said, though, the national
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park's purpose is to conserve natural scenery, wildlife, and historic
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objects while leaving them unimpaired for public enjoyment. which means
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that they protect the lands, the ecosystems, the animals, the wildlife,
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and they provide a place for all of us to
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be able to enjoy the environment and the space as
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it is. While you can generally predict where you are
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going to land in base jumping, there are outliers where
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the wind blows you off course. Repeated landing in the
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same areas is hard on that specific ecosystem. potentially causing
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it to break down and then spread to other areas.
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Not to mention, not everyone would love to see people
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jumping off of cliffs, whether it was for base jumping
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or I can also see it being, especially today with
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technology that if someone sees another person jumping off of
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a cliff and they don't know what is going on,
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there could be the potential that rangers are being used
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to check out a situation that is unnecessary and therefore
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using resources that could be used elsewhere. On the other hand,
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Say someone falls or purposefully jumps without a parachute. Others
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might see the beginning of this and they just kind
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of brush it off as, oh, this is just another
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base jumper and not offer any help. And then someone
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is suffering unnecessarily. I guess what I'm saying is that
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I see both sides and the park did too. They
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actually started allowing 12 permits per day in 1980, but
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they quickly realized that people are still going to jump
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whether they had a permit or not. This idea was nixed,
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and then the next idea they came up with was
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similar to what we see in New River Gorge National Park,
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where they do an event where people could jump on
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a very specific day. But unlike New River Gorge, this
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wasn't an event, it was a protest. The caveat was
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that the five people who jumped would be arrested. they
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would give up without a chase, they would not fight
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being arrested, and their gear would be surrendered as well.
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This leads to a really tragic tale of BASE jumping
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history as hundreds of people crowded into the valley to
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watch the spectacle. Four men and one woman were situated
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and ready to go on October 22, 1999, where Jan
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Davis was representing women everywhere. She was making her way
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to the cliff edge in an iconic black and white
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pinstriped suit wearing poking fun at what they were doing
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and the fact that she was going to be arrested.
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Jan was known for being a spectacle by dressing in
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crazy outfits as she had previously jumped in red lingerie.
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And because she knew that her gear was going to
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be confiscated, she asked to borrow gear so that hers
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would not be taken. Unfortunately, the ripcord for the parachute
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release was on the side of her leg in this
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new gear, which is very different from her own gear
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where the cord was at the small of her back.
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The media was here for the event, and in the
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video footage, you can see as Jan steps to the
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edge of the cliff as she stretches her arms out
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and leapt. For seconds, there are cheers and everyone is excited,
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but as the camera zooms in, you very quickly get
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the sense that everything is going wrong. Jan is clutching
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at the small of her back for the cord.
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That isn't there.
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And as time seems to slow down and no parachute
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is released, everyone realizes in the moment where she hits
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the ground that the stunt has gone very, very wrong.
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The force of Jan hitting the ground after free-falling 3,000
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feet resulted in a two-foot crater in the parking lot
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and the nearby car crash. alarms started going off. So
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clearly this protest was a failure. And instead of convincing
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everyone how the national parks and base jumpers could get along,
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it just highlighted how devastating base jumping becomes. One of
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the men frequently jumping with Dean was Graham Hunt. For
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at least five years, he had been regularly taking on
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new challenges with Dean. While he wasn't very well known
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in the climbing or base jumping world as a local,
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his name was tossed around with awe. Graham was from
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Shingle Springs, California, where he worked all over the western
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states fighting wildfires as a hotshot, which is a wildlife firefighter.
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But then when he moved to Yosemite at 22 years old,
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he just kind of wanted to live life. He had
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no car, no job, just living and climbing and having
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a ball. He is described as kind, courageous, and mindful.
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He wanted to be a better human. When Graham and
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Dean met, their athleticism made them a clear match to
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partner together. They really leaned into wingsuit-based jumping, which not
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only requires expensive gear, but it also requires a specific
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amount of dedicated training, where a jumper slowly increases height
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and difficulty of truth. of jumps and terrain over a
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long period of time. This is not something that someone
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just leaps into, pun intended. The wingsuit has this strip
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of fabric between the arms and the legs of a
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person and a triangle of fabric between the legs, almost
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like becoming a flying squirrel. In Europe, this is much
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more common as there are fewer regulations and the jump
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locations tend to be a little bit more accessible. Dean specifically,
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if not Graham as well, was extremely experienced when it
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came to many different types of outdoor recreation activities. Yet
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with base jumping, again, it is when, not if. And
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wingsuit base jumping is much more deadly than non-wingsuit base jumping.
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And this is because wingsuits are used in what is
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called proximity flying, where people will fly and soar their
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way past and through different terrains offered in a given area.
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In Yosemite, That means cliffs and ridges and solid granite stone.
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On May 16, 2015, Dean and Graham climbed to the
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top of Taft Point with the intent to jump and
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sail through a notch in the jagged ridgeline just below them.
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It was 7.30 p.m., and this was a normal time
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for them to jump. Since it was illegal, Dean was
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regularly jumping either early in the morning or later in
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the evening to avoid detection. On this day, which was
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a Saturday, Dean, Graham, and Dean's girlfriend, Jen Rapp, hiked
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the roughly mile-long trail to Taft Point, which stands at 7,700
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feet in elevation, or 2,345 meters. From the peak, you
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can see El Cap, Cathedral Rocks, Yosemite Falls, and the fissures,
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which are deep vertical cracks in the granite at.
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The cliff's edge.
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And they just plunge the 3,000 feet or 915 meters
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to the valley floor. Today, if you were to stand
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on Taft Point, you would see Lost Brother Notch standing
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out on the ridgeline below. This notch is the 30-foot
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wide V-shaped gap that Dean and Graham were going to
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soar through. It needs to be mentioned that this notch
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is 30 feet wide at the top, Not the base.
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It's 7.35 p.m.
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And Dean has a camera mounted to his helmet rolling.
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He is standing in his red suit and Graham is
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just before him in black and yellow. Graham texts his girlfriend,
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Rebecca Hain, who is waiting for them on the valley
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floor in their intended landing spot.
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Ready?
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It reads. And then he zips his phone into his
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pocket before turning to the cliff. Graham jumps, followed closely
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by Dean. The notch sits around 1000 feet down and
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1500 feet out from their starting point or 305 meters.
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and 457 meters out. The fabric stretched between their arms
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and legs is pulled taunt in the wind. carrying them
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down and out, exactly as they want. At this point, Jen,
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while taking photos, loses sight of them, and just as
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she turns to head down the trail to meet them
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in the valley, she hears a thwack, followed by a second.
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The fading sun is eerily silent as she shouts their names,
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and the silence stays with her as she rushes back
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down the trail. When Jen gets down and finds Rebecca,
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she finds that Dean and Graham aren't there. They look
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around for a while, texting and texting again, hoping that
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they just got off course and landed and are making
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their way back to meet up with them. Or maybe
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they were so excited about their accomplishments that they decided
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to head to a nearby bar for celebratory drinks. But
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as evening turns into night and later shifts into the
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next day, they finally head to park officials to report
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Dean and Graham missing. At first, officials hear this story
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and they're like, okay, maybe they're hiding somewhere because they
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saw a park ranger and they didn't want to be arrested. Remember,
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Space jumping is illegal in the parks. Then they were like, wait,
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maybe they did run into a ranger and maybe they've
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been arrested. But Sunday morning, regardless, with the rising sun,
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officials start their search within the park. Park rangers and
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volunteers walk the trails and in the air are helicopters
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from the California Highway Patrol. It does not take long
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for the crew and one of the helicopters to spot
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two bodies on the rock wall. just below the notch
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that Dean and Graham had been trying to clear. Their
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bodies were recovered and an investigation began to figure out
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what happened. What they determined, thanks to Dean's camera, was
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that Graham nicked the notch in the upper right-hand side
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as he entered it. It is unclear if Dean saw
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this and tried to roll or avoid the same path,
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or if he had already been on a collision course himself.
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Dean then slammed into the bottom of the notch. Both
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were going over 100 miles per hour and both died
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on impact. Their entire final flight lasted less than 30 seconds.
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Dean was 43 years old and slammed into the ridge headfirst.
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where Graham, who was 29 years old, struck the rock
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with the front of his body. It is impossible to
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clearly know what went wrong on this jump, but others
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have surmised that it could have been any or a
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combination of variables, including misjudged distances and elevation, distraction during
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the jump, or even air turbulence. It did not take
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long for the news of this loss to spread. Park
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spokesman Scott Gettyman knew Dean and commented on how much
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he loved the park and what it stood for. Even
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though he was doing something illegal, he emphasized how tragic
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this loss of life was. Friends saw pictures of the
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two men circulating and without reading the caption, knew that
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the men were dead. Sean Reeder commented on how hard
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it is to lose one friend, but two at the
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same time is devastating, though he takes comfort in knowing
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they died doing something that they loved. Something that they
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knew was dangerous. They knew that continuing to base jump
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is a ticking time bomb. And that there would be
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no docking for cover when it finally went off. They
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looked death in the face and they jumped anyways. Friends
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in their grief still celebrated their two friends who were
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chasing their dream and living their lives to the fullest.
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Conversations have been shared on all angles, focusing on the
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fact that there are rules and if you break them,
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you have to accept the punishment. That rangers are supposed
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to uphold the rules for which they work. and that
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if these people break the rules, the least they could
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do is abide by the rangers when they come calling.
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No matter where you go or what you're doing, someone
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is breaking rules. This can be seen every day with
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the speed limits, red lights, and jaywalking. The park rangers'
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jobs are to enforce their rules, just like any other officer,
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and just like any other officer, when they find themselves
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in a situation where things don't go as planned, They
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are the ones cleaning up the body left behind. Not
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to mention the environmental impact on the land itself, the
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fragile vegetation that sometimes lives only in one area of
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the park, and how to do it without creating distraction
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or spectacle for all other visitors. There are many who
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don't agree with BASE jumpers or think that the choice
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they made with their own life was okay. Those who
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have been most vocal over the years call Dean and
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Graham reckless. Many in the online space have implied that
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playing stupid games wins you stupid prizes, insinuating more viciously
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that base jumping is illegal for a reason. And if
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you don't abide by the rules and you end up dead,
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then they don't feel bad. There is so much I
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could say here, but I don't believe that these men
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were being reckless or they clearly did not deserve to die.
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They took care of their very expensive gear. They were
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mindful and aware of the mistakes and what those mistakes
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would cost. They had Jen at the launch point and
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Rebecca at the landing spot, putting those they cared about
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in a position to witness what they did and would
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have been cruel to that, you know, I'm doing this
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on purpose, like today's the day I'm going to die
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and these girls are going to witness that. Jumping is
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always the jumper's choice, yet they still seemed aware of
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their own impact on the park around them. When things
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go good, there is no question that things could work
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out for everyone.
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It is when things go wrong.
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When search and rescue has to find a missing jumper,
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when the rescue turns into a recovery, and when that
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recovery is occurring in a really technical area that is
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difficult to access, it is hard to keep a clear
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head about the reasons behind the adrenaline pump. Jumpers are
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conscious of their choice, yet there seems to be a
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disconnect for when they choose to live a life that
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included risk and they manage that risk as much as
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they could, just like you and I do driving to
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and from work every day. just like we all do
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when we step on a plane or walk our dogs.
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There is risk sitting at our desks, eating lunch in
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our climate-controlled rooms, and going to bed each night in
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our homes. As we start to wrap up this episode,
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I think it is worth mentioning that no matter what
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activity a person is doing, no matter what, a death
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is still a loss, even if the person was breaking
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the rules or doing something that you yourself could never understand.
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That loss is still felt.
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Somewhere out there, a girlfriend, a wife, a brother, a mother, father, sons, daughters, sisters, friends,
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all these people who cared about this person are weeping.
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The rescue teams have to step in and mourn yet
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another life that they have to bring home in the
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most respectful way that they can. It is not just
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Dean and Graham who lost their lives. It's everyone who
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had plans with them. Alex Honnold, who is a climber
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who needs no introduction, wrote something out that I think
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clearly sums up this discussion.
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And so I am going to read it word for word.
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Quote, there have been wildly divided responses to his death,
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ranging from deep respect for a man who greatly influenced
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his sport to unchecked contempt for someone who threw his
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life away. squandering what's most precious in search of the
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next cheap thrill. Many people question the value or even
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sanity in such risk-taking. They assume that Dean must have
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been a selfish monster to hurt his family and friends
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in such a way. The most common kind of criticism
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was some version of, he owes it to others to
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stay alive. These types of comments really rankled me because
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they belittle how much thought and effort Dean invested in
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his arts. No one spends 20 years at the cutting
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edge of their sport by being an adrenaline junkie all
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the time. Most people had only seen his climbing and
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flying through short YouTube videos and never got a glimpse
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of the years of training behind them. Dean actually had
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a thoughtful and conservative approach, building up to things slowly
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over time as he became physically and psychologically prepared. Some
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argued that it was immoral to risk his life. Yet
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many Americans risk their health every day through largely avoidable
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diet and lifestyle choices. I was 19 when my father
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died from a heart attack. He was a 55-year-old college
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professor and had led what was, by all appearances, a
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risk-free life. But he was overweight and heart disease runs
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in our family. No matter the risks we take, we
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always consider the end to be too soon. Even though
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in life, more than anything else, quality should be more
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important than quantity. Dean's pursuits were impractical and unrealistic, and
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yet he was romantically devoted to them. And that dedication
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is what allowed him to help shape his sport for
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almost 20 years. His death has reminded me to reflect
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carefully on my own decisions about risk. There's a constant
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tension in climbing and really all exploration between pushing yourself
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into the unknown, but trying not to push too far.
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The best any of us can do is tread that
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line carefully. Dean was making his choices clear-eyed. He knew
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the risks in his life, and he was still willing
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to pursue his dreams. How many of the rest of
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us live with that kind of attention?
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End quote.
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So now we're back to me. Dean was one of
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the most iconic climbers of his time, and that translated
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well into base jumping and slacklining. He evolved with this
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community of those who loved adrenaline, pushing boundaries, and defining
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what it felt like to be human. To say that
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he was one of the most revered climbers would be
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an understatement, yet there is something that still holds more true.
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In the world of extreme sports, it doesn't matter how
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experienced you are, how skilled you are, or how much
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you love it, the margins for mistakes are small. So
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small that in certain cases, the hands on the clock
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start ticking in your brain. Each tick of a second
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seems louder and louder.
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Time is moving too fast.
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By the time you realize that you need to adjust,
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that things aren't going to pan out, your time is up.
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Sources for this episode include nps.gov, newyorktimes.com, outsideonline.com, people.com, time.com, alpinist.com, medium.com,
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and redbull.com. Thank you so much for joining me. And
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as I work on a plan for bringing you more episodes,
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I appreciate your kindness and your patience. If you have
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