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Welcome aboard the System
76 transmission log.
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Our broadcast is about to begin.
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This is the latest on System 76
computers, manufacturing and POP OS.
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Now for your in orbit crew.
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Emma, what is your
favorite kind of chocolate?
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Dark chocolate is the correct answer.
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Yes, 86% is what I prefer.
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I'm eating 88 right now.
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Actually not right right now.
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Otherwise you hear me
biting on some squares.
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But I heard you biting on the
squares earlier that you did.
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So perks of working at System 76.
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Yes, chocolate all the time.
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All right, let's get started.
I'm Emma.
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I'm Alex and this is
system 76 transmission log.
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Welcome.
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Let's get into the news.
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All right, well first
up we got a new Darter.
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Just hit the market.
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It's our screen real estate laptop.
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14 or 16 inch ultra portable 1610 display.
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It's got that nice silver finish and it's
just been upgraded with the Core
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Ultra 200 series CPUs from Intel.
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But it has not updated the chassis.
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So still rocking that same silver slick
chassis that we love so much
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and looking as pro as can be.
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Absolutely.
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That Darter.
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Real stalwart in the office.
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Let's move on to the next topic.
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The launch keyboards still on sale.
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Still on sale folks.
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They are 40 to $60 off
depending on which one you get.
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Manufactured right here in Denver.
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Alex, what's your favorite switch type?
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Favorite switch type?
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Well, I was going to say Nintendo but I
feel like dropping a company
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wouldn't really be good here.
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So I'm just going to say you're so funny.
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You're just so clever today.
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Use the jades on mine.
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Currently I have a pre production model
because I had to write about how
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the keys felt on the website.
Enjoyed it a lot.
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And I started with the royals but the
clacky sound is a little weird to me.
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And then I tried the clicky ones and it
was a lot more satisfying
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on my fingertips.
And then we introduced the browns.
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So I do want to give those a shot.
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I think I would like them a lot but for
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because I haven't tried the browns.
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Can you guess what my
favorite switch type is?
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Is it the pinks?
It is.
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Good.
Guess what's next?
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Cubicon.
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We are done with Cubicon
Europe and that was a big one.
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Athelio Astra making its rounds again all
over the world it seems she was on display
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doing a demo at the Blunk
booth and the arm booth.
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At the arm booth it was showing off all
128 cores running LLMs using Bluefin and
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Rama Llama, which is really interesting
and visually fun to watch with
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B Top going at the same time.
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And yeah, we don't know where Astra is off
to next, but we're going to
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share it, so get excited.
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It's like the Carmen Sandiego
of computers this year.
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It is, yes.
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Like everybody wants to show off Astra.
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Yeah, Kubecon's over, but Linux Fest
Northwest is up next and we won't be
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bringing an Astra out there, but we will
be bringing some meerkats and
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pangolins and launch keyboards.
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And Carl will be doing a talk on Cosmic
DE and the progress from the last year.
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Yeah, partly because he introduced Cosmic
at Linux Fest Northwest
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the last time he was there.
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People have been waiting for the sequel.
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This is now the sequel and believe it or
not, it will be better than the original.
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Yes, we are excited to watch and we're
also hosting a lunch the
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Saturday of the fest.
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So come by and see us and
grab a sandwich and say hi.
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BYO bbq.
Right?
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No, barbecue.
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Actually I definitely want
to bring barbecue sauce.
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So it is bring your own barbecue sauce?
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I just said it wasn't.
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So why would you say it is?
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Well, because if the barbecue wasn't
happening, then you'd need
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to bring your own sauce.
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Well, what's up next, Cosmic?
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People have been
wondering where that's at.
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We are still putting together Alpha 7.
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There's a few features we want to get
together for what we hope is the last
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Alpha release before we switch to beta.
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So we're working on things
like pinned workspaces.
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People have been asking
about static workspaces.
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That's sort of our, our solution to that.
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And then pausing for dramatic
effect, slash thinking.
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We've got some accessibility
features in the works and more.
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Well, thanks for that
update about Cosmics, Emma.
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We have a fantastic guest
here with us today as always.
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Yes, a longtime friend of
System 76, Michael Dominic.
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Some of you may know him.
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Today we have Mike Dominic from the MAD
Botter, an AI development company and a
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well known nerd in the Linux community.
While.
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Welcome Michael.
Thanks for having me.
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Folks, can you tell us what is
madbotter and what do you do there?
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We're at our core a small software
company based out of Tampa, Florida.
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We do automation and AI enabled software,
which is just a fancy way to say we
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automate basically large sets of
data for regulated industries.
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So think the military and military
contractors, large construction folks who
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have large sets of data locked in Legacy
systems and need to pull them forward for
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either compliance issues or just to, you
know, not be running everything in
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Microsoft Access, which you would be
surprised how many big companies are
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relying on one Access database to run a,
you know, multimillion dollar business.
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I thought on your Website I saw
ChatGPT and some of your work.
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How do you implement that with your app?
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We're a OpenAI developer.
Right.
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So a ChatGPT developer.
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Our Alice product has a optional ChatGPT
integration that just basically takes some
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preset prompts, ties it into our algorithm
to try to understand, you know, we don't
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want to be too mean to some of these
legacy systems, but shall we
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say, more obscure data formats.
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I don't know if anybody's old enough to
remember FoxPro databases here,
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but we get kind of a lot of those.
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What are you most excited
about with the future of AI?
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You know, I think it's going to level the
playing field for frankly, younger folks.
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I have an 8 year old, soon to be 9, and
with just a little bit of help and like
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Cursor, he's able to fully develop
Minecraft, little Minecraft mods.
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Doing a lot with Pygame and I think that
would have been far more challenging for
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him and obviously kids his age without
just that, you know,
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little bit of extra hand.
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Does he, does your son use like
ChatGPT to help with his coding?
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Yeah, via the cursor IDE,
which is a offshoot of VS Code.
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Okay, cool.
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So is there a reason for the
Alice in Wonderland theme?
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How does that tie into the company?
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Well, anybody who listens to coder
radio knows that I'm a little eccentric.
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So I'd like to tell you there was a really
good, smart, you know, Forbes
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500 business reason for that.
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I thought it was cool, the idea of
reinterpreting Lewis Carroll's, you know,
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Alice in Wonderland universe to basically
be, if you want to look at the
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website, 1950s retro robots.
Right?
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Yeah, I like it.
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It's so cool.
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And the little pet rabbit is fun too.
Yep, yep.
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We used to have a product actually called
Rabot, which that little pet rabbit is.
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Yeah, Rabot.
Clever.
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What's your Linux background?
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Oh, so we could go all
the way back in time.
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I started with Linux on the desktop
when the only color choice was brown.
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At least that's what
Ubuntu told me at the time.
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So I want to is that 810 or 910 somewhere
in there spent a lot of tears
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trying to set up Ubuntu tv.
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Just so much Pain eventually.
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I actually am a pop user now
and on my kick around machine, which
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is also a system 76 used cosmic.
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I'm actually on the latest alpha.
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I think we just is going to update to
beta, but I don't know when that is.
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I might have already done it because
I know it's a rolling release, so.
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So yeah, it's been using it on
the desktop for a long time.
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I love my Thaleo.
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I tend to buy more Thaleos than I actually
use because I give them away once a year
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to middle school and high school students.
That's fun.
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Tell us about that.
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Yeah, so every year we do
an Earth Day competition.
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You could be just have to be in the US
high school or middle school actually and
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do some sort of coding or engineering.
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It doesn't have to be coding.
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One year a kid actually brought in a.
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He actually designed something in
open CAD which was really cool.
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Like his own take on a hydroponic fish
tank where on top of the tank was.
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You could grow your hydroponic.
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His example was strawberries.
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But you know, it could be anything, right?
Super cool.
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Yeah.
These kids come up with amazing stuff.
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Emma.
It's really, you know, there's no.
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There's no cost to entry,
there's no gimmick.
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We don't charge for anything.
Pick.
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Every year we pick one winner,
that winner gets a brandy.
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New Thaleo, you guys have been kind enough
to allow me to buy them and ship them
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directly for me so I don't
have to deal with that.
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It's.
I think it's.
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It's obviously very small impact, but it's
good to see enthusiasm in
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young people for this stuff.
Especially when.
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I don't know if you've ever heard of
Fortnite, but they sure spend
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a lot of time on Fortnite.
I think Roblox is the new one.
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I know.
See, I'm dating myself already.
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It's not even that new.
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Even when I'm trying
to say get off my lawn.
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I'm just so old, I don't even
know where the lawn is now.
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Oh yeah, my kid loves Roblox.
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He loves that and Minecraft and weirdly
Scratch, which runs great on Linux.
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So that's a nice plus because I'm forcing
him actually to use my old pangolin.
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You're Talking about
your system 76 machines.
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Can you tell us what machines you've used
and what are some of your
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favorites or what is your favorite?
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Okay, I'm going to try to not
butcher any model names here.
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The First, I think it was the
first Ultrabook you guys did.
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I was actually in Denver when you
were showing it off, the Galago Pro.
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I have the Lemur.
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I have, I think the new
pangolin that I just got.
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I actually have a customer who every time
they want to send me data that they don't
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want shared on other machines, they buy
one of your laptops and send it to me.
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So that's interesting.
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Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
I have Onyx.
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I know it's not a Pure System 76 machine,
but I'm sure you guys remember the
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HP Dev 1 collaboration you guys did.
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That's actually.
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That was an exciting
one around the office.
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Yeah, that's my rode machine actually
because just because of the portable size,
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I just throw it in my bag and if I have
to, let's say I tend to have to
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fly to New York or North Carolina.
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It's perfect machine for that.
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But the workhorse like doing the heavy
lifting, any kind of real computation
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is still my trusty Thaleo.
Awesome.
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So you've had, I think you've
had it since the first Thaleo.
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So you've had it for
like six, seven years.
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Yep.
I actually have two Thaleos.
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Yep.
But I have both of them.
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The old Thaleo is also still in service
doing some just like internal
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company server stuff.
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Have you upgraded it?
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I upgraded the RAM in it and I wildly
upgraded the storage just to
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meet the new needs of the server.
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But then I got greedy and bought another
one that was a threadripper and
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that's what's doing all the.
So.
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So this might be too inside baseball.
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I'm trying to run some of these MLS
locally just for obviously
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data privacy for folks.
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But also these APIs are going to expensive
and it's not a bad idea to try to.
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I don't know.
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See this is where my old man
shaking his fist at the cloud skin.
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I truly believe you should
host your own content.
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Right.
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You should try to host your own blog
instead of using something like medium.
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You should maybe not pump
all your data up to ChatGPT.
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So that's where running some of these
LLMs has been an interesting experiment.
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It's gone fairly well.
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I don't know, it just seems like a great
horizon for the open source
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community and Linux in particular.
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I can't go too much into it but I've been
doing some kind of generation and training
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3D graphics files and I just started
playing around with I'm gonna get the
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libraries wrong so I won't
try with it on a fancy Mac.
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And the newer Thaleo.
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And the Thaleo blew it out simply because,
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primarily written for a Linux
environment in terms of performance.
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Right.
To do the computations and the advantage.
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It's unbelievable.
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And to pay a service to do this for us
would be, frankly, a significant bill.
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All right, so we've gone through
what system 176 products you've used.
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Oh, I didn't mention my favorite.
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Oh, so this is a little oddball.
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I have the original launch
keyboard right here.
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I don't know if you
can hear the clackings.
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You will pry it from my cold, dead hands.
I love this thing.
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So you got the jade switches then?
Yep.
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I said clacking.
Oh, they're clacking.
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That's awesome.
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So do you have a certain color scheme that
you do or do you just go full rainbow?
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I was doing the rainbow beach ball thing.
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I ended up finding it distracting.
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So now I just do it where you.
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The meteor shower when you type.
Cool.
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Anybody who doesn't have a
launch will think I sound crazy.
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There's a utility application
that you can change.
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They all have names, right?
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One that's called galaxy,
one's called meteor strike.
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We've talked a lot about the system 76
machines you have, and it
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seems to go back a long way.
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How did you first find us?
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That's a great question because I
don't think I remember the answer.
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It was a long time ago.
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We're talking a long time ago.
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How did I first find you?
You know how I found you.
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I know exactly how I found you.
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It was Chris Fisher when I.
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You know, because we used
to do code radio together.
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And I think he had you on
one of the other JB shows.
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Not you personally.
I think it was Carl.
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Yeah.
And it was at the Linux Action show.
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It was a long time ago because.
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I mean, it was the one
with video too, right?
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Yeah, it was the old, Old right.
When.
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When they used to have like the.
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The anchor desk and everything.
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I think the background was like the
webpage that they were
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talking about or whatever.
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That was so ahead of everybody else.
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They're doing such
awesome stuff over there.
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He.
He was.
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So the idea of a podcast network, you
think about it now, there's
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tons of them, Right.
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The New York Times, all
these big shots have them.
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But Chris, really.
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And the whole team at JB kind of pioneered
what an independent podcast
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network could look like.
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Yeah, this was like 10,
like over 12 years ago.
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Or 13 years ago.
Yeah, because.
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Because he and I started coder together.
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It was 13 years ago.
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So cool to see how the community is.
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Has stuck together and stuck with their
projects and how everyone is still knowing
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each other and communicating
and staying in touch.
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I remember a lot of us used to like not
have kids before this started, right?
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Yep.
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Is there anything you'd like to tell
the community about the MAD Bot?
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If you.
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If you need any kind of ETL data
processing or automation done and you want
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a local US based vendor,
we are here for you.
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We do use exclusively open source tools,
so when you go with us, you're not going
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to be forced to like buy a license to.
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Probably shouldn't name names, but
expensive enterprise data processing
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tools that will lock you in forever.
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And how can people get in touch with you?
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You can either go to alice.
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dev you could go to themadbotter.
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com or just email me mikethemadbotter.
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com awesome.
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Well, we appreciate you
coming on the show today.
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We are so excited to share your experience
with the community and hope you have
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all the best success with the madbotter.
Thank you so much.
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Been a pleasure.
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Looks like we've covered all our bases.
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3, 2, 1, 0.
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This has been the System
76 transmission log.
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For more inspiration, check out the
website and follow us on social
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media on your descent back to Earth.
Please continue.
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Keep your hands and feet inside
the transport beam at all times.
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Captain Synoff in transmission.
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3, 2, 1, 0.
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Welcome aboard the System
76 transmission log.
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Our broadcast is about to begin.
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This is the latest on System 76
computers, manufacturing and POP OS.
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Now for your in orbit crew.
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Emma, what is your
favorite kind of chocolate?
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Dark chocolate is the correct answer.
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Yes, 86% is what I prefer.
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I'm eating 88 right now.
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Actually not right right now.
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Otherwise you hear me
biting on some squares.
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But I heard you biting on the
squares earlier that you did.
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So perks of working at System 76.
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Yes, chocolate all the time.
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All right, let's get started.
I'm Emma.
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I'm Alex and this is
system 76 transmission log.
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Welcome.
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Let's get into the news.
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All right, well first
up we got a new Darter.
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Just hit the market.
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It's our screen real estate laptop.
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14 or 16 inch ultra portable 1610 display.
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It's got that nice silver finish and it's
just been upgraded with the Core
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Ultra 200 series CPUs from Intel.
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But it has not updated the chassis.
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So still rocking that same silver slick
chassis that we love so much
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and looking as pro as can be.
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Absolutely.
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That Darter.
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Real stalwart in the office.
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Let's move on to the next topic.
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The launch keyboards still on sale.
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Still on sale folks.
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They are 40 to $60 off
depending on which one you get.
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Manufactured right here in Denver.
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Alex, what's your favorite switch type?
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Favorite switch type?
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Well, I was going to say Nintendo but I
feel like dropping a company
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wouldn't really be good here.
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So I'm just going to say you're so funny.
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You're just so clever today.
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Use the jades on mine.
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Currently I have a pre production model
because I had to write about how
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the keys felt on the website.
Enjoyed it a lot.
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And I started with the royals but the
clacky sound is a little weird to me.
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And then I tried the clicky ones and it
was a lot more satisfying
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on my fingertips.
And then we introduced the browns.
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So I do want to give those a shot.
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I think I would like them a lot but for
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because I haven't tried the browns.
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Can you guess what my
favorite switch type is?
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Is it the pinks?
It is.
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Good.
Guess what's next?
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Cubicon.
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We are done with Cubicon
Europe and that was a big one.
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Athelio Astra making its rounds again all
over the world it seems she was on display
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doing a demo at the Blunk
booth and the arm booth.
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At the arm booth it was showing off all
128 cores running LLMs using Bluefin and
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Rama Llama, which is really interesting
and visually fun to watch with
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B Top going at the same time.
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And yeah, we don't know where Astra is off
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share it, so get excited.
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It's like the Carmen Sandiego
of computers this year.
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It is, yes.
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Like everybody wants to show off Astra.
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Yeah, Kubecon's over, but Linux Fest
Northwest is up next and we won't be
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bringing an Astra out there, but we will
be bringing some meerkats and
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pangolins and launch keyboards.
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And Carl will be doing a talk on Cosmic
DE and the progress from the last year.
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Yeah, partly because he introduced Cosmic
at Linux Fest Northwest
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the last time he was there.
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People have been waiting for the sequel.
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This is now the sequel and believe it or
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Yes, we are excited to watch and we're
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So come by and see us and
grab a sandwich and say hi.
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BYO bbq.
Right?
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No, barbecue.
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Actually I definitely want
to bring barbecue sauce.
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So it is bring your own barbecue sauce?
No, it is.
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I just said it wasn't.
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So why would you say it is?
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Well, because if the barbecue wasn't
happening, then you'd need
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to bring your own sauce.
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Well, what's up next, Cosmic?
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People have been
wondering where that's at.
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We are still putting together Alpha 7.
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There's a few features we want to get
together for what we hope is the last
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Alpha release before we switch to beta.
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So we're working on things
like pinned workspaces.
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People have been asking
about static workspaces.
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That's sort of our, our solution to that.
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And then pausing for dramatic
effect, slash thinking.
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We've got some accessibility
features in the works and more.
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Well, thanks for that
update about Cosmics, Emma.
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We have a fantastic guest
here with us today as always.
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Yes, a longtime friend of
System 76, Michael Dominic.
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Some of you may know him.
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Today we have Mike Dominic from the MAD
Botter, an AI development company and a
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well known nerd in the Linux community.
While.
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Welcome Michael.
Thanks for having me.
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Folks, can you tell us what is
madbotter and what do you do there?
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We're at our core a small software
company based out of Tampa, Florida.
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We do automation and AI enabled software,
which is just a fancy way to say we
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automate basically large sets of
data for regulated industries.
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So think the military and military
contractors, large construction folks who
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have large sets of data locked in Legacy
systems and need to pull them forward for
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either compliance issues or just to, you
know, not be running everything in
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Microsoft Access, which you would be
surprised how many big companies are
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relying on one Access database to run a,
you know, multimillion dollar business.
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I thought on your Website I saw
ChatGPT and some of your work.
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How do you implement that with your app?
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We're a OpenAI developer.
Right.
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So a ChatGPT developer.
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Our Alice product has a optional ChatGPT
integration that just basically takes some
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preset prompts, ties it into our algorithm
to try to understand, you know, we don't
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want to be too mean to some of these
legacy systems, but shall we
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say, more obscure data formats.
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I don't know if anybody's old enough to
remember FoxPro databases here,
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but we get kind of a lot of those.
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What are you most excited
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You know, I think it's going to level the
playing field for frankly, younger folks.
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I have an 8 year old, soon to be 9, and
with just a little bit of help and like
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Cursor, he's able to fully develop
Minecraft, little Minecraft mods.
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Doing a lot with Pygame and I think that
would have been far more challenging for
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him and obviously kids his age without
just that, you know,
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little bit of extra hand.
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Does he, does your son use like
ChatGPT to help with his coding?
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Yeah, via the cursor IDE,
which is a offshoot of VS Code.
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Okay, cool.
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So is there a reason for the
Alice in Wonderland theme?
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How does that tie into the company?
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Well, anybody who listens to coder
radio knows that I'm a little eccentric.
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So I'd like to tell you there was a really
good, smart, you know, Forbes
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500 business reason for that.
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I thought it was cool, the idea of
reinterpreting Lewis Carroll's, you know,
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Alice in Wonderland universe to basically
be, if you want to look at the
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website, 1950s retro robots.
Right?
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Yeah, I like it.
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It's so cool.
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And the little pet rabbit is fun too.
Yep, yep.
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We used to have a product actually called
Rabot, which that little pet rabbit is.
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Yeah, Rabot.
Clever.
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What's your Linux background?
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Oh, so we could go all
the way back in time.
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I started with Linux on the desktop
when the only color choice was brown.
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At least that's what
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trying to set up Ubuntu tv.
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I actually am a pop user now
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I'm actually on the latest alpha.
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I think we just is going to update to
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I might have already done it because
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So yeah, it's been using it on
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I love my Thaleo.
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I tend to buy more Thaleos than I actually
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to middle school and high school students.
That's fun.
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Tell us about that.
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Yeah, so every year we do
an Earth Day competition.
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You could be just have to be in the US
high school or middle school actually and
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do some sort of coding or engineering.
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It doesn't have to be coding.
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One year a kid actually brought in a.
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He actually designed something in
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Like his own take on a hydroponic fish
tank where on top of the tank was.
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You could grow your hydroponic.
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His example was strawberries.
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But you know, it could be anything, right?
Super cool.
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Yeah.
These kids come up with amazing stuff.
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Emma.
It's really, you know, there's no.
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There's no cost to entry,
there's no gimmick.
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We don't charge for anything.
Pick.
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Every year we pick one winner,
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New Thaleo, you guys have been kind enough
to allow me to buy them and ship them
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directly for me so I don't
have to deal with that.
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It's.
I think it's.
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It's obviously very small impact, but it's
good to see enthusiasm in
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young people for this stuff.
Especially when.
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I don't know if you've ever heard of
Fortnite, but they sure spend
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a lot of time on Fortnite.
I think Roblox is the new one.
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I know.
See, I'm dating myself already.
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It's not even that new.
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Even when I'm trying
to say get off my lawn.
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I'm just so old, I don't even
know where the lawn is now.
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Oh yeah, my kid loves Roblox.
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He loves that and Minecraft and weirdly
Scratch, which runs great on Linux.
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So that's a nice plus because I'm forcing
him actually to use my old pangolin.
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You're Talking about
your system 76 machines.
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Can you tell us what machines you've used
and what are some of your
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favorites or what is your favorite?
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Okay, I'm going to try to not
butcher any model names here.
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The First, I think it was the
first Ultrabook you guys did.
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I was actually in Denver when you
were showing it off, the Galago Pro.
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I have the Lemur.
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I have, I think the new
pangolin that I just got.
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I actually have a customer who every time
they want to send me data that they don't
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want shared on other machines, they buy
one of your laptops and send it to me.
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So that's interesting.
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Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
I have Onyx.
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I know it's not a Pure System 76 machine,
but I'm sure you guys remember the
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HP Dev 1 collaboration you guys did.
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That's actually.
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That was an exciting
one around the office.
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Yeah, that's my rode machine actually
because just because of the portable size,
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I just throw it in my bag and if I have
to, let's say I tend to have to
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fly to New York or North Carolina.
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It's perfect machine for that.
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But the workhorse like doing the heavy
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is still my trusty Thaleo.
Awesome.
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So you've had, I think you've
had it since the first Thaleo.
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So you've had it for
like six, seven years.
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Yep.
I actually have two Thaleos.
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Yep.
But I have both of them.
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The old Thaleo is also still in service
doing some just like internal
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company server stuff.
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Have you upgraded it?
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I upgraded the RAM in it and I wildly
upgraded the storage just to
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meet the new needs of the server.
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But then I got greedy and bought another
one that was a threadripper and
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that's what's doing all the.
So.
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So this might be too inside baseball.
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I'm trying to run some of these MLS
locally just for obviously
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data privacy for folks.
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But also these APIs are going to expensive
and it's not a bad idea to try to.
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I don't know.
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See this is where my old man
shaking his fist at the cloud skin.
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I truly believe you should
host your own content.
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Right.
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You should try to host your own blog
instead of using something like medium.
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You should maybe not pump
all your data up to ChatGPT.
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So that's where running some of these
LLMs has been an interesting experiment.
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It's gone fairly well.
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I don't know, it just seems like a great
horizon for the open source
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community and Linux in particular.
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I can't go too much into it but I've been
doing some kind of generation and training
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3D graphics files and I just started
playing around with I'm gonna get the
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libraries wrong so I won't
try with it on a fancy Mac.
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And the newer Thaleo.
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And the Thaleo blew it out simply because,
in my opinion, the software is now being
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primarily written for a Linux
environment in terms of performance.
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Right.
To do the computations and the advantage.
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It's unbelievable.
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And to pay a service to do this for us
would be, frankly, a significant bill.
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All right, so we've gone through
what system 176 products you've used.
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Oh, I didn't mention my favorite.
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Oh, so this is a little oddball.
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I have the original launch
keyboard right here.
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I don't know if you
can hear the clackings.
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You will pry it from my cold, dead hands.
I love this thing.
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So you got the jade switches then?
Yep.
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I said clacking.
Oh, they're clacking.
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That's awesome.
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So do you have a certain color scheme that
you do or do you just go full rainbow?
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I was doing the rainbow beach ball thing.
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I ended up finding it distracting.
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So now I just do it where you.
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The meteor shower when you type.
Cool.
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Anybody who doesn't have a
launch will think I sound crazy.
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There's a utility application
that you can change.
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They all have names, right?
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One that's called galaxy,
one's called meteor strike.
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We've talked a lot about the system 76
machines you have, and it
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seems to go back a long way.
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How did you first find us?
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That's a great question because I
don't think I remember the answer.
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It was a long time ago.
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We're talking a long time ago.
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How did I first find you?
You know how I found you.
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I know exactly how I found you.
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It was Chris Fisher when I.
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You know, because we used
to do code radio together.
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And I think he had you on
one of the other JB shows.
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Not you personally.
I think it was Carl.
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Yeah.
And it was at the Linux Action show.
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It was a long time ago because.
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I mean, it was the one
with video too, right?
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Yeah, it was the old, Old right.
When.
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When they used to have like the.
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The anchor desk and everything.
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I think the background was like the
webpage that they were
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talking about or whatever.
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That was so ahead of everybody else.
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They're doing such
awesome stuff over there.
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He.
He was.
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So the idea of a podcast network, you
think about it now, there's
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tons of them, Right.
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The New York Times, all
these big shots have them.
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But Chris, really.
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And the whole team at JB kind of pioneered
what an independent podcast
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network could look like.
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Yeah, this was like 10,
like over 12 years ago.
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Or 13 years ago.
Yeah, because.
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Because he and I started coder together.
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It was 13 years ago.
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So cool to see how the community is.
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Has stuck together and stuck with their
projects and how everyone is still knowing
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each other and communicating
and staying in touch.
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I remember a lot of us used to like not
have kids before this started, right?
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Yep.
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Is there anything you'd like to tell
the community about the MAD Bot?
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If you.
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If you need any kind of ETL data
processing or automation done and you want
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a local US based vendor,
we are here for you.
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We do use exclusively open source tools,
so when you go with us, you're not going
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to be forced to like buy a license to.
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Probably shouldn't name names, but
expensive enterprise data processing
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tools that will lock you in forever.
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And how can people get in touch with you?
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You can either go to alice.
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dev you could go to themadbotter.
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com or just email me mikethemadbotter.
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com awesome.
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Well, we appreciate you
coming on the show today.
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We are so excited to share your experience
with the community and hope you have
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all the best success with the madbotter.
Thank you so much.
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Been a pleasure.
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Looks like we've covered all our bases.
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3, 2, 1, 0.
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This has been the System
76 transmission log.
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For more inspiration, check out the
website and follow us on social
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media on your descent back to Earth.
Please continue.
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Keep your hands and feet inside
the transport beam at all times.
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Captain Synoff in transmission.
