Does Flory Bidunga Make Louisville a National Title Contender? | 2026-27 Player Preview - Flory Bidunga

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm joined by this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My boy Jay guy boy Alan and of course Mr. Rutherford Mike.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How you doing man?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Junar, I had you you said you had Paratitra conferences today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we had paratitra conferences thankfully it was the the good one for genius So that was smooth saying that was that was very easy But now man very excited to be here Jacob said you know, you guys were doing this he asked if I'd be interested I was like
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[SPEAKER_02]: only if it's flurry, I'll consider it, it's got to be the highest paid player on the teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only way that I'll think about it, you guys said like any time, like 8 a.m. to like 6 p.m. and I was like, how about 9 p.m. and you guys worked around that, so yeah, because of all those things, I'm here and I'm happy and I'm happy and I'm happy and I'm happy and I'm happy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's great to have you back on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like you owe me for all the Fridays and Mondays and Tuesdays that I've filled in for you over the years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a while since we found you on the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I think going back to maybe the first year of PK's tenure at Louisville.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot has changed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you've been talking about this roster all off season from top to bottom, so I mean, you know, there's so many different ways that we could go from a storyline perspective, especially talking about a guy who was the number one overall player in the transfer portal, but I want to I want to start here and this one's a little bit different than we've had it how we started traditionally Mike, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: That number one player in the portal tag is a huge kind of indicator of Pat Kelsey and the staff's ability to keep shooting for the stars on the Recruciant considering how things have gone the last two seasons in the tournament and then some of the, you know, just kind of conversation around Pat and can't you do it and goes out and readjust as staff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're used to prize that Louisville was able to land flurry, but don't go like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just right off the bat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it like when you were when Louisville's in it and they're getting him on campus, you're like, no, this makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We should be landing players like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or was it like, okay, well, Pat, look at Pat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, all right, Pat, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was super surprised with the, I guess initially when it came out that it was like serious because you hear about him entering the portal and I get kind of like a feeler text from somebody who has, you know, one of the people pushing the buttons behind the scenes that, and they're like, you know, I think we actually, there's a pre-existing relationship here, like we may actually have in and I can't say on your all show what I actually said in response, but I was like, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give anything to have Flory Boudonga as they will win, and even at that time, I was like this feels like a kind of a pipe dream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that we're pursuing it, it's more about, and we've had a number of these over the years where it's more about the statement of pursuing him and the fact that we have a chance, and we're like, it says something that Chris Mack is in on this guy, and you know, you kind of thought that maybe it would be one of those deals,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they kind of kept, there was never a moment during that recruitment, which was pretty quick where they didn't feel pretty good about where they stood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I guess it was me not wanting to get my hopes up, but I kind of just kept saying, you know, we got a shot here, we got a shot here, but this is the type of player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is the best way to sum up Floripitanga is he is the player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that is the answer to Louisville fans' biggest issues with the first two years back healthier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's exactly what you've been saying you need, you know, these guys aren't big enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not physical enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not tough enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not, you know, we're getting pushed around against teams that have NBA size and strength and it shows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: he is the preeminent guy that fits that checklist and so to go out there and make him building block A of this roster was such a gigantic statement back in April.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I did love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys all pointed out at the time that I was at the masters when the news actually broke.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a wonderful news to come back to the car too, but we just enjoy the actual moment until like eight hours after the fact, but it was a very long-winded way of answering your question to say at first I was very shocked to hear that we were legitimate suitors for his services and then yeah it's time went on could not have been more excited that we actually got this done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm right there with you and I think the other thing was that just with the NBA draft this year being the first big year of NIL in the dollar amounts for players really leading them to that decision of do I go or do I stay
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, shit, we've seen Trake Hoffman run literally drafted in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go to the courts and say, well, I can make more money in college.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I should go back then being a friend of draft pick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that was very evident throughout the entirety of the first round.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And even through the combine, we talked on this show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was worried that flory could realize like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a weak draft outside of the top, you know, the top 10 was really good, but in the middle to back of the first half, there's really not a lot of dominant centers, to the fact like, super edge of what I don't think would have been drafted in a lot of drafts in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And without the draft being as weak as it was, and I think Flory was a better center than him and would have likely been drafted over him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think it says even more Mike on top of that that they avoided him going to the NBA draft and being a first round draft pick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, maybe in that range, it could have just depending on performance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that that says a lot about how Louisville was positioning them themselves and look for every fan, they understand what he brings to the table.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Big 12 defensive player the air is a sophomore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was one of the best shot blockers in the country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 91 total blocks and 35 games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a 7 foot 3 wing span.
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[SPEAKER_03]: an eight foot 10 standing reach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't even sound like a real thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that sounds like something my son would say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, I got his eight foot 10.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, it's just insane to size that he possesses while undersized as a center at the same time, just from a high perspective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But last year was a 64%
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[SPEAKER_03]: feel go shooter or a feel go proceeding percentage from the field was a an absolutely menace as a shot blogger was a menace as a rebounder and his game translates anywhere because he's a guy that can get you 10 to 12 points just purely off of putbacks alone like not even needing the ball in his hand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll open this one up to the floor guys like what's the biggest strength defensively I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about that in a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what's the biggest drink offensively that he brings to this team?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And why is he going to be successful as a big man when Louisville has not had somebody yet that they consistently can dump the ball into and score down low?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the difference here that we think?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean real quick to piggyback off the the first point with we were centers being at such a premium.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think getting that deal done in April was such a blessing And I don't know if they had the foresight to know that it was going to go this way, but the market got insane for centers very quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've looked at the last couple of national champions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've looked at, you know, you con had, you know, snogo and then clinging back to back years, Michigan brought in the biggest front court in college basketball to win a national title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the way that college basketball has been going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you heard about some of the prices that were out there for very average centers as the portal went on, it made you feel so much better about getting the Bidanga deal done as early as you did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that everybody at Louisville said, you know, no disrespect to these guys and and a fru and vangalisugress, they're just not good enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need an upgrade at those at that position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Both those guys got seven figure deals to play elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we had a guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: barely played forget about start in zougars he barely played in half the games last season and he's getting played seven figures to play for St. Mary's this season fruit got a huge deal to go to market so that just goes to show you right there how much these guys cost and to get that done so early and to have that already
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[SPEAKER_02]: that box checked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think was such a huge deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to answer your question about the offense, I mean, I think that his limitations are well known.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anybody listening or watching this needs it to be explained.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a reason why he's playing college basketball right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't become a lottery pick in the NBA.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He does not have, he's not a stretch five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a stretch four if you want to put him there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I like the most about his game and this goes hand in hand with his defensive strengths, he's such a quick jumper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've had, I mean, how many times over the years have we had a center where it's like they've got a gather, they've got what should be a quick dunk, they gain the
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[SPEAKER_02]: put themselves together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been the legs a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And by the time they go up to finish, you've got a shop locker right there to either file you and force you to earn that the line or he's going to block your shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is snap of a finger off the floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a legit lob threat like James Scott was a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He breaks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously a lot of elements that James Scott didn't do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think the notion that when he's got any sort of advantage and the ball in his hands around the rim that it's going to be flushed,
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[SPEAKER_02]: benefit that we simply did not have last year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to say as far as he goes now this is based on one game that we did not get to watch and did not get to listen to right into Bahamas but the one thing that struck me and Ryan was that we have a lot of talent on this team like it's not like it's Florian a bunch of dudes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: right so like my thing was in the thing that Ryan and I as we were going over the box score and we started noticing the live stats coming in is that flory when he was on the floor was racking up all kinds of stats.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't just a rebound here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A dunk here even though he had he only had two dunks and his first one was the first basket was a dunk but he was getting like the he was getting steals.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The balls would go out it would say you know out of bounds on Louisville and it's like flooring but doing it like he was all
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[SPEAKER_04]: you know like four or five blocks it might have been six I don't know Ryan that we might be able to you know help me with that one but I guess my thing is like at the end of the day like do you think that translates at all you know to the games you do you think he's just he's going to insert himself in every level of the game do you think that's one of those things where he's going to rack up a bunch of stats across the board when we play like mercy hurts or something like that or do you think he's going to have a game like that against Texas uh gaming against Kentucky against Duke
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, where do you think his impact is going to be felt the most in those games?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's a stand suffer for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the other thing is, and this is such a, like, he's the type of player that brings out basketball cliches, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the stuff that you don't see popping up on the score or say, he's got that heart that you can't teach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of those things are part of the reason why he's so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But one of the things that I think is really notable about his season last year at Kansas, you know, they were dealing with the Darren Peterson mystery in the same way that we were dealing with the Michael Brown mystery.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, defensively, they were so good for the entire year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were a top 10 defense in large part because of what he brought to the table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But their offensive efficiency numbers when Peterson was out were actually better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a big part of the reason was Badoonga's there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he creates straight line drive opportunities for everybody on the floor when he's there because you simply cannot leave him around the basket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that we had
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[SPEAKER_02]: driving lanes getting clogged way too often last season obviously we were more of a perimeter oriented team but even when my count wanted to get to the bucket you had people that didn't take Sananda through seriously as a catch and dunk threat every now and then he would make them pay but more times than not you had this situation that I was just talking about where he couldn't gather the ball in time he was slow-footed a little bit and teams were able to recover
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Dunga, you know, he is a good screener.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a guy that just screens air, like some of the big men that are out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He likes the, he's not afraid of the contact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he creates lanes and he forces teams to, you know, the most elite shop locker on the other side has to play on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it cannot help off at any point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think that regardless of who you're playing against, that's something that's going to show up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're going to be more of a,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think put pressure on the basket type team this season and so having him, I can't imagine playing that style with fruit center or even with James Scott at center for a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But with the Dunga at center, you absolutely can allow guys like Jackson, Shell, Stead and Adrian Wolley and to shame on government to get downhill without fear of it just getting cluttered up and having one of those ugly possessions that it feels like we had a bunch last year when we tried to attack the room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that you know, they had media days yesterday and there wasn't a whole lot that came out from all that, but one of the things I took away and it was during the interview with Jeff Goodman of course in field of 68 that had pk on and he said, I mean, I think all of us kind of he said when when your best players also your hardest worker, you know, you've got something and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we all know, I think we all knew Florey's probably the best player on this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably getting paid like that, and he's, you know, you talk about him kind of setting the market with Bigman to start this whole thing out, this whole roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to hear him say it that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to hear him say that he's not just the best player on the team, but he's working the hardest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw him wearing the gold jersey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all of those things are really popping to me that it's it's telling me that they're flooring wants to be here and and I'm I'm just I think he's gonna find ways to tap into more of his offensive game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to just hope and pray that it's not from beyond the arc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think getting him involved in ways that, I mean, you know, you talk about filling up the stats in the Bahamas, like he was assisting a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: PK has been very vocal about his ability as a playmaker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not, you know, we know how he likes to put the ball in pretty much everyone's hands even out by the perimeter and, you know, kind of forced him to dribble and do things with the ball in their hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think flory can he has an opportunity to demonstrate that offensively he can be kind
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think one of the big things when it comes to like his offensive game is honestly like it's it's he's a lefty Like I think it makes him a lot better around the rim like it's it's harder for people to to defend a big man with his athleticism but
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know a little lefty hook here and there like that that seems to pop on some of this tape But I mean just just a freak athlete that is going to have some some posters this year I he's a human highlight real I've gone back and been chopping up different highlights here in there making videos and whatnot And it's absolutely insane to see some of the bodies that he caught last year some of the guys that he was Dunkin on that were literally like lottery picks and from the freshman class last year
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[SPEAKER_01]: Putting booze around a poster a couple times when they play Duke like doing it against teams like Arizona Yeah, he's also gonna say who's a kid from Arizona I mean, that's all in his highlight reel right it's he can compete with the best of the best and I I can't wait to see What he does I don't know if you are in agreement with me like I don't think we need him to be
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[SPEAKER_02]: much more on offense than he's been already, you know, he's he was a 15 point per game guy at Kansas last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, he's he's older.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much his game can evolve.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe you can get some new posters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had that video of him shooting jumpers in the summer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, stop it, stop it, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that this wasn't part of the pitch where he was doing the whole, like, a bunch of his hair all 2015, where it's like, we're going to let you shoot three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like cause the best part of that might do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's like if they're going to fill the camera over, and Montrez Harrell is right there next to him, coaching him on shooting and you're like, just like, this is the way you scored this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was going to work great for the first game, and then you're going to miss your next 25, and we're finally going to have to revisit this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he is a freak athlete, he is a remarkable finisher, we I think will get him in a lot of pick and roll lobsets like we did two years ago with Chuck E and James Scott.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to score the requisite number of points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't need him to be like a
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[SPEAKER_02]: stretch the floor or if a face up guy or even have crazy post moves and develop a little, you know, we know we can use the left hand, but now he's using the right hand shoulder hook.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Be who you've been.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We get enough of the guys in this team that can score.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We know where your value really lies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, be the best or or second best defensive player in all of college basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you give us 13, 14, 15, 16 points on putbacks, easy finishes around the
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you have other pieces around him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've talked a lot throughout our player preview series, whether it be Jackson Sheldon or Cardinalx, or Adrian Woolly, or even Alvaro from Darius, like the guys around him are such perfect hand and glove fits for what he does that it allows them to play it their best because they have an elite shot blocker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've got a guy who's not a ball stopper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to move the ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, not necessarily a great passer, but he is somebody that you can play at the free throw line of the elbow and he can make decisions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And with colors like Montgomery and William Knox, you're going to see him throw some nice passes this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to benefit maybe more than anything from playing alongside Jackson Sheldon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Mike, that's where I kind of wanted to go next before we transition to ultimately his greatest strength is defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's no doubt about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk at length about how that changes this team's
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do want to talk about Jackson Sheldon and his impact because we saw them come together on their visit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think they had the same agent, they were kind of seeing like some type of a package deal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's some built-in chemistry there and in most years you're like, okay, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I love two players having chemistry, package deal seems cool, but when you're talking about a point guard who does one thing, you know, he does a lot of things really well, but he does a great job of getting downhill and picking roll.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then you're talking about a big man who rolls with the best of them and is one of the best love threats in the country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, can you just, in your opinion, how dangerous have a duo do you think Jackson's shelf set in and for you're going to be based off of each of their strengths and the way that they complement each other on the floor?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, ideally, it's when we talked about two years ago, where you're best off ends with, I mean, it felt like it's not stealing points, but it did feel like we were stealing 12 to 14 points every game with Chuck E. Hepburn when facing teams that just could not adequately defend a screen and roll, you know, James Scott.
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[SPEAKER_02]: little lob boom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great way to squash a rally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great way to start a rally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And and that was really missing from the offense last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like when we got into, you know, kind of fives when we slumped a little bit, you would have loved to have had one of those just quick little rolls green.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the big man's slow and recovering.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you hit him for an alley-up and we just couldn't ever get that to work last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ideally, that returns to the offense this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned there's a pre-existing relationship there, both those guys do have the same agent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were sort of packaged as a deal together when they came here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully, that's translated to the court already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if it doesn't, I mean, I think you've got other guys that if you've got Seth Trimble, eligible to play, which who the hell knows at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... he's a guy that was is used to playing in that style when they did get into half court sets at North Carolina they do a lot of similar stuff with that secondary break uh... you and see as well where they are kind of coming from the edges and throwing lops from the up from the the week side uh... i think he knows how to play that way but yeah i mean but that's
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[SPEAKER_02]: no disrespect to what they had at Kansas last season, but they didn't really have a true point that could get downhill in that regard and was looking kind of past first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you overplayed the center, could finish effectively at the rim, I mean, Peterson can do that when he wants to, but he's a different type of player than Jackson Sheldtett is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it could be a...
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[SPEAKER_02]: gigantic benefit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's the best way to get everybody into the flow of a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the best way to get the crowd involved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's honestly, it's the best thing that Florid Bedungum brings to the table when you're talking about him as a half court offensive threat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, one of the things that kind of jumped off the page when I was watching his film gosh, I want to say it was before we played them last year before we played Kansas and played him last year in October.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So about a year ago was that he's very quick with the ghost screens that he sets in any kind of like a
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[SPEAKER_04]: like fake screen or even if he comes all the way up and screens he's good about angling his body and he's very quick on the run to the basket so like I'm not incredibly worried about how he's going to like him and Jackson that that should be you know a to be kind of you know like two guy plays like I'm sure like pack and draw something up my thing is this on the defensive end we have talked on this podcast
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[SPEAKER_04]: kind of it link about how we we uh we sort of learned um through I don't even remember how we learned this but John Andrew check the uh the assistant coach thank you shot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mike get your knife 95 ounce we will wait until Mike takes his drink so he can so he can hear this over his gulp.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um so one of the things that we've learned is that John Andrew check and we don't have to do it again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is the GM basically of this team so
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[SPEAKER_04]: For me, it was like, it is a proud moment learning that because we knew the Pat Kelsey wanted to address the defense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He wanted to be tough and, you know, down low, wanted to get the anchor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think if you saw Ford Vaduga commit to Duke, I don't think they would be, you know, like, you know, outside of the top 10 and in any of these top 25 polls, given the same roster.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, giving that urgency that we saw in the offseason and transfer portal.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But my thing is this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think John Intercheck, I think Pat Kelsey allow John Intercheck.
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[SPEAKER_04]: to hand-pick some of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think Floria is one of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think at the end of the day like Little I'll just ask you this at the end of the day on defense He's not again like the joke about him is he's not seven feet tall.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He does have a wingspan He is quick and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's athletic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's about six foot nine, right at six seven Kentucky fans say without his shoes Do you think do you think there's any room for him?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if he's done growing Do you think there's any room for him to level up defensively?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, given Pat Kelsey is giving John Intercheck the Rains to basically do his thing on defense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think there's any sort of stock in J.A.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Did coach, he's a self-proclaimed defensive coordinator of Florida's championship team a couple years ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think that was kind of a selling point for him?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I also do you think there's any room for him to level up in this defensive system?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, and sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that he already, if he's the same player here that he was at Kansas, he's the best or second best front court defensive player in college basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's him or in Chenier, Lou from Florida, who also learned and benefited from John and to check down there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the thing about him, you
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[SPEAKER_02]: The room protection speaks for itself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's averaging over three blocks throughout his college career per day and I think he's blocking about 18% of shots that are taken per possession, which is ridiculous that come from around the rim by opposing teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He, you know, we, we were talking about going after a handful of other really elite rim protectors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Santo Cyril from Georgia who's we're going to see here at Miami.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The other guys the big difference between Butunga and a guy like Cyril and I think the other guys in the list, he can switch in guard 1 through 5 and that's not something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can guard multiple positions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can guard 1 through 4 and typically it's bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can really actually guard 1 through 5.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that that is the biggest benefit and to answer your question about how his game could take a step forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are little things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think he's been pretty good about staying out of foul trouble.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He does on occasion if you watch a bunch of Kansas games from last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every now and then he'll do a little bit of a smack at a guy driving past him and pick up a cheap foul there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'd love to see that get cleaned up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's foul on a shot attempt at the rim, that's one thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're just swiping for no reason, that's another.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Throughout his career, he's been a hedge and recover kind of guy when he's defending the high ball screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that sort of been his bread and butter and it's like a, if he gets on a one or two, he can handle it effectively, but that's not the best case scenario.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if Andrew Sheck is going to be more of a liberal switching defensive philosophy where he says, look, if we've got to do that can guard the two at center, why would we risk an over-hege and a late recover?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why would we risk somebody having to drop down and help out with the roller and leave a wide open shooter in the corner?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we just let Flory do his own thing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: and let everybody recover naturally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to see if that's more of what we're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that Andersheck is also a little bit of a no-middle guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that we'll play a solid amount of drop coverage just because of how good Bautonga is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think also one thing that we haven't talked about is
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that your because his size is a thing like he's again, there's a reason why he's still playing college basketball despite all of this this praise that we're heeping on and he is about six eight little under six eight Without shoes and he's a true center he doesn't stretch the floor, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a seven foot two dude who can stretch the floor as a five-star freshman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a seven foot five reserve center that I think can come in and be that Frank Anselam eBay of this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to play but don't go at the four and let a Keasy service the room protector or let Gabe Dines when he's out there service the room protector, he can do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you have a massive amount of options to work with defensively this season and to sort of reiterate, we didn't the last two years, especially last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk because you, I mean, obviously, S.B.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nation, you have a great sense of like the national landscape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The, how, how he, you know, played at Kansas and with those bigs, what do you think is kind of right for opportunity in this lineup, in this roster that might kind of serve as some contrast to what he had at Kansas last year, because I get the sense that we have a little bit more of that stretch and some versatility with our bigs and what they were really working with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be interesting how it varies from line up to line up because, you know, and I know you guys have talked about Elvero Fogueras at the four, he's not the perfect accompaniment to a guy like Bittonger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If that is, in fact, the starting line up where Fogueras is your power forward, you do kind of wonder if they're going to use him to maybe guard the opposition's three and let Carter Knox go down there and guard the four or somebody else, because I do think that
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be asking full dearest to overextend on somebody who probably shoots, but the good thing is he'll serve as I think a drop coverage guy in those types of situations and just say, hey, you want to come in here, you're going to get a race.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We will force bad shooting teams to beat us from the outside, and I think that we'll force good shooting teams to try to beat us at the rim.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll try to do what opposing teams have done to us the last couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and funnel everything into Bedonga and say let's go now now one thing that I do think is going to be interesting to see this season and Kansas fans were very quick to point this out when he entered the portal he he struggles a little bit offensively when he is faced with true elite NBA size just because you know he doesn't have a great back to the basket game and he can't stretch the floor a little bit and I do wonder if those
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[SPEAKER_02]: If a Keesie's ready, we say we throw him into the fire and say go out there and do your thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're also, I mentioned no middle defenses.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He struggled a little bit against that style last season, the Houston game, he really got bullied around and they didn't just let him, I think he finished with four points in that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the most frustrated that he was because Houston is trying to force everything to the perimeter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For everything to the outside, they're not going to let you get in the paint.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We play a team like that in the first game of the players, they're a festival in Texas
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[SPEAKER_02]: that really bolstered their roster late in the game with a couple of guys that weren't eligible at the initial portal and that's a big deal you know you can't win that title if you don't win the first game you don't get that rick patino show down in the second round because I think they'll be the organ out that that day in all men's quit unless you take care of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: we're going to need him to be a little bit better against those types of defenses than he was at Kansas and that's another place where you say hey there's room to grow like he's not quite a finished product
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that the challenge is to go back to some of the points you made.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I personally don't think you can play a Kezzy and Florida together because you have two guys on the floor at that point that just turned on shooters.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think, you know, Kezzy, we've seen him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've seen him maybe picking pop in high school, but my point was I don't know how that translates to college as an 18 year old freshman or 17 year old freshman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do think that what Florey has from a defensive perspective and how he plays on the floor and then whether it's Alvaro or whether it's a guy like LJ Wells or Cardanox, there's so much versatility there that you can play so many different lineups that can appease different matchups because you're right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Texas Tech is so unique in the fact that they're going to have a guy like
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[SPEAKER_03]: Daryne Williams, I don't know the floor, with two of the most physical point guard that the combinations that there isn't America and Cruz Davis and gives law horn who transferred over from UNLD.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think in that matchup, I hate that Texas Tech matchup so much for a little while.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how they win that game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, we're way too early to be talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the whole point is as in those games is where you really need to see Florey take that next step as a player overall, because to your point, Mike,
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[SPEAKER_03]: where, I don't want to say necessarily he wasn't an impactful player because he was, but whether it was Hackaflory, whether it was, you know, just essentially pushing him out to the three-point line, there's opportunities to really impact what he does on the floor, and I do worry with that with some of the, you know, some of the other places in Louisville's lineup, how that looks when you play more physical teams and how that looks when you play teams that can shoot or guys that can get to the bucket.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I just think ultimately,
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[SPEAKER_03]: and what he offers that Louisville hasn't had so far is that just steady anchor in present who is the most physical player on your team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think for me, Texas Tech is one, Michigan is another we've mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The due game is going to be the one where I cannot wait to see how do you match up with those two freaks of centers that I think doves gonna play together in Bunga and Bunga, Bunga, Bunga.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How does Flory in your mind?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's the game for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the measuring stick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: now tournament success all that great we're going to get there but that game is a measuring stick of how good floor he is and ultimately like we've seen the last few weeks the list are coming out of deep into player the year projections first team on ACC they could they keep putting Patrick and Bunga in there and I'm like you know it's sort of pissed me off a little bit so I'm like I'm pissed off for floory but how do you see him and some of those bigger games translating and being able to put little over the edge to finally beat a dude or to beat a
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he had a couple of nice highlights in the game against Duke last season, but he, you know, that was not a great game for Flory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there was one that Kansas fans were quick to point to and say, he can only take you this far, because he did get bullied a little bit in that Duke game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got guys that have legitimate NBA size at the center position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that that's one where the one thing that you would hope is
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[SPEAKER_02]: just because he's going to get all these all American accolades and just because he's making x million amount of dollars this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably going to be games this season where Pat Kelsey has to go to him and say, you can't win this by yourself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to take away what you do the most effective.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The best thing for you to do is to be active on the boards, do your thing defensively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're going to push pace a lot more this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you said in crazy fact, we had two first round draft picks or two draft picks of the guard position, including a top five pick, and we ranked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe three hundred and eleven in a transition points last season, which is insanity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you think about what we had, we didn't tilt the floor at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think with Flories rebounding ability, which is a big thing against Duke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've gotten killed on the offensive glass each of the last two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He takes that away and then I think he is a very solid outlet passer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not quite as good as some of the outlet passers we've had in years past, but he does know where the ball supposed to be and he does get there quickly and effectively and then he starts sprinting towards the other end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that that's an area, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: you can't let it become this one-on-one battle where he's saying, now I'm going to show you that I can be a back to the basket player in the NBA because if we're being real, I know he's still probably has NBA dreams, but the notion that he's going to be Zach Eady in the NBA is...
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't play that way when you're a foot shorter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So right just do like you got to get through to him at some point and say And to Ryan's point earlier like this is why I love the fact that everybody talks about what a hard worker he is that he values the right things that he's winning the gold jersey because I think
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[SPEAKER_02]: get nervous in this day and age when you've got a guy that's being paid more money than lots of NBA rookies and who's done it at the highest level for a number of years that they're going to kind of have this big dick mentality and I can do whatever I want and all this shit and he doesn't seem to be that type of guy and I think in those games if Kelsey goes to him and says don't do too much if they overplay on you if they push you out look for the back cut look for the past we've got guys around you to help we
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[SPEAKER_02]: we're going to be just fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think playing with in himself in a handful of games this season is going to be a big deal for his psyche and for the whole team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm just I'm piggybacking off of what what you're saying just now is that I think we're actually going to be a better shooting team than those people think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not that we're going to shoot the lights out or anything, but I think we're going to shoot a little bit better than those people think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think some of that has to do with flooring and some of the other players on you know that you have to pay attention to you have to watch where they're going.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'll borrow a for that honestly can shoot you know with with room.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, in some of the film that I watch, I keep going back to the film, but in some of the film that I watched, it's when Kansas was getting pushed out to the perimeter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They dump it down the floor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It just happened in Arizona game a few times and we talked a minute ago, Ryan brought this up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Some of the guys that he went up against, I can't remember the kids name, but it was the big kid from Arizona.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he came back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Eventually.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think Pat Kelsey in a lot of coaches, specifically Pat Kelsey in John Intercheck, watching the game get more physical game by game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The NCAA tournament championship game with Michigan, you know, like that team was just literally a pelvis bumping people out of the way, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a very physical game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I think both of those guys kind of watched Flurry, it was just like, you know, I think
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[SPEAKER_04]: with our our strength guy I think we can get you to where like if they take this away I think we can go down there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you can make a difference.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think there's any you know like any thought process in that where it's like okay you take this away we'll just go to him if you take him away we'll just do this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think he's not been a guy at Kansas where you could reliably just dump and spread the court.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you couldn't just throw it into him and say, hey, go make a play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of the games we're talking about were earlier in the season when they were playing their non-conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was asked to do less of that as the season went on in Melvin council really emerged and became kind of the the alpha for Kansas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't doing in November in December.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What he was doing in conference play and then obviously that Peterson out there a little bit more which helped space the floor, but I mean, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm not inside the practices.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder how much they've tried to work with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe on block pose moves to try and get at least a little bit of a, you know, nudge shoulder shimmy right hand hook on the block, because I think that that could really, really make him more versatile.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess maybe you could work on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's showing that a few times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the the risk you run like I said in the biggest games of the season is that you you throw that and everybody kind of relaxes and it feels like a wasted possession because he's more dangerous being off the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I mean his you know he is a
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[SPEAKER_02]: his timing is remarkable and again, I'm talking about the intangible like basketball clichés.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a nose for the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all true though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he does the things you can't teach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He reads the ball in the air so effectively to know when it's going to come off the rim what the bounce is going to look like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's he's going to be one of the leaders in the country and when it comes to put back dunks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think when you just
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[SPEAKER_02]: spread the floor and throw it into him and say, let him go to work, you know, that that's going to work fine and probably 70 75% of our games this season because he's just bigger and better than just about every center we're going to play, but in that other 25%, you don't want to waste a possession where you're limiting his ability to get an offensive rebound and either finish immediately or kick it out to somebody for an open look.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that that's where he's the most effective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing with, as we, we talk about the rest of the, the conference and then the nation in terms of just, you know, big men and, and the accolades that come with being, you know, a big 12 defense player of the year and progressing into your junior year and, you know, striving to be something like the, you know, the, the defense player of the year in the ACC or a first team all ACC player or potentially the ACC player of the year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I look across the conference, Mike, and I don't see a whole lot of competition for him outside of Grunlow at Virginia, outside of in Vagua, at Duke, you know, how do you see the rest of the ACC?
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[SPEAKER_03]: in terms of just you know overall big men where he kind of how does he fit into this is he the best in the conference is is it you know a two-man race like how do you kind of see it in terms of the star power that he brings compared to the rest of the conference in the top big men.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's the best big man in the conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that that's that it should be the expectation when you were Probably the best big man in the big 12 last year, which was a better conference than the ACC.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it should be expected to be the best big man in the ACC this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we brought up Sonso Cirole in Miami as well, who is I think very good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if they can get you know
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[SPEAKER_02]: Malik Renou is also coming back to Miami, which is there will be a load in the front court.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If again, every other statement in college basketball, if he's eligible, if he's eligible, he'll be a beast down there as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think, I mean, he is, he does things that
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think any other big man in the ACC did last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, Shinya, I think it's the best comparison for where he does it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, hell, all three of those four to front court players, Hawking and Condon as well, are both similar and skill set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he is the most versatile defensive big man in the ACC.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that he'll be a stat stuff for now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we're talking about what needs to happen for him to potentially win ACC, player of the year over some of the big guards that are out there, some of the better players on Duke,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's for big man a lot of times it's a team award right like you can't just because a guard on a team that finishes 7th and a major conference can win it because he averages 26 points a game and it's just that good for a guy like like flory
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's probably not going to have many games where he's nearing 30 points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be more of a of a consistent 15 16 18 points per game type guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to have to be you average damn near a double double.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're one of the nation's leaders and blocks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: year the defensive player the year in the conference and also Louisville wins the ACC.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that that's what it will come down to because if not they're just going to give it to the best player on Duke or they're just going to give it to test the reader because he's going nuts for Virginia or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think it's possible for him to be a first team all American and to win ACC player the year, but in order for either of those things to happen Louisville's going to have to be as good as we're all hoping they're going to be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think that's, that's, you know, kind of how I've seen it, the Duke, it's really funny.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just went straight to Duke, like, and that's the, that ain't all Virginia's really good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think I look, I, I'm telling you guys, I'm going to say it until my, my face is red.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My amy is the team that that decides Duke that I get the most concerned about because that front court is fucking ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To Sean Good and Malik Renault and Tom Tyrell are nasty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But my guy I look at the NBA draft and you know, and it's not about the NBA in the next level when we're talking about, you know, game to game, but I look across the country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: seven-foot four-center.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have Malachi, Marano.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've got Rubenshin, Yellow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where am I?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm I'm going to stop at the, I'm at Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Say on Kada at North Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some of these guys are projected to be first round picks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How does Florida you stack up against some of those guys?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, where do you see him in the mix with some of those big name centers?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a different conversation when we're talking about his college basketball effectiveness versus his, you know, the way that he translates to the NBA game because I think at this point, if he would have been a lottery pick last season, he probably goes to the draft and I think he probably would have been more of a back end of the first round draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's if we're just being honest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's essentially his draft ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's going to take a top 10 pick or use a top 10 pick on a six foot eight center who can't stretch the floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't really shoot a jump shot and it's just kind of a defensive unicorn at the NBA level because they've got defensive unicorns everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think
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[SPEAKER_02]: He will get drafted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a guy that could hang around the league for a number of years just because the intangible is the intangible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a good role filler.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He could be a guy that plays a solid 10 to 12 minutes a night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he is not going to flash NBA potential like some of the other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if mode charm a guy that you just mentioned, who we saw last year, it's Cincinnati.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he can develop a showcase a little bit more strength, we know he's got a bunch of versatility.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he can not fall for jumpfakes as much, if he can show those types of things, he can
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[SPEAKER_02]: probably would not have gotten drafted last year to be a guy who's like a top 15 pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If for he is national player of the year, he's probably still a back end of the first round type guy, which is why it made sense for him to come back to college and make, you know, again, ask him out billions of dollars for a season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's making NBA money to play college basketball for a year and his NBA, I think, viability.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to change based on this season of the next.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's still going to be a guy that probably warrants a look.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned how well he played during summer league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was a nice little kind of message from him to say, hey, I may not be all NBA type guy at the center position, but I can still play this effectively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still deserve a roster spot somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, making a lot of money to play college basketball for a season and then going get to get what you would have already gotten a year earlier had you chosen to make that situation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: money in his pockets no matter what he does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good lesson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: None of us had and coming out of college.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said we did not have money in my pockets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can tell you that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It kind of sounds like his situation sounds like the Oscar's she'd weigh route where you're like you hope he could be that you know this is like like we said like a college basketball unicorn that has whatever 15 rebounds a game or some shit like that and then win national player the year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But like Mike Ryan I'll step on you of course I'll do his at least once a podcast but I have this I don't have this in my notes I just want to ask real quick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is the best big man, Louisville had had since.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'll say Gordy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that that's, you know, when for the last time we had a true, like, first team all conference caliber center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we've had some good big men over the last handful of years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We certainly had some good power forwards as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The probably you could qualify them under that umbrella, a big man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But as far as a guy that is a true center who, I think, has all American abilities and I expect to be a first team all conference caliber player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we've had anybody like that since Gorgie and he's probably.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's more established than Gorgie was going into that junior season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just showed remarkable potential as a sophomore and we all expected to make that giant jump.
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[SPEAKER_02]: With Flory, it would almost be a shock if he didn't produce at the level that we're all expecting going into this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that that's the, that's the easy answer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were talking about we were talking about how James Scott has like the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not second in like the donk total amount of donks in a season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Behind behind Montres Herald, who had one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like 96 donks in like 94.
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[SPEAKER_01]: James Scott for 79.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but before the 2015 season when, as Mike pointed out, he started trying to chuck three balls, but still, still had the second most dunks in that season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So number one, Tres 2014, number two, Tres 2015, number three was James Scott, where do we think Florian's up in number of dunks this year, Mike?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Real quick, I mean, I think that's that also.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's super encouraging if you're a Louisville fan,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, I think we found out last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't because James Scott is just a super talented, crazy guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He went to Ole Miss, got paid a ton of money and did nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the system kind of allowed for him to be that guy that had the third most dunks in Louisville basketball history.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if he did that, that same system shall allow Florian Boudumga to play above the rim for this entire winner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and throw down like 85-90 donk so that's yeah if James got it gone down to Ole Miss and produce similar numbers or better numbers I think we'd all be like all right you know he was he's a pretty good player he saw it couldn't get on the court for a bad I'm expecting but don't get to put up huge numbers in this system I'm expecting him to you know dunk three or four times just about every damn game I'm putting the over under 85 donk and I'm taking the over
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[SPEAKER_04]: You said 85, last season for Kansas, he had 82, I think Ryan, he checked the on that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's what we talked about once upon a time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, I like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he played with Tray White, Allen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He played with Tray White.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let that sink in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing, sir.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I try to get more dunks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tray White's like, you want a dunk?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to shoot this three real quick, and then we're going to just ruin this possession.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But to your point, I mean, his motor is relentless.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He checks the box of what John and her check wants this team to be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think he can play at the prowess of, you know, and it sounds crazy to say, because Rubin Chen-Yellow is not an all-SCC player, at least hasn't been, but in terms of what he's offered to that Florida defense as the anchor and what that looks like for Florida, whether it was, you know, whatever piece it was,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Andercheck has his guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that if Pat allows this team to play in a way where Andercheck's influence comes in, they don't necessarily go back to the 103's a game approach, but they find ways to move the ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this could be one of the best passing teams we've seen in a long time for Louisville, and I think Florey could have one of those seasons that is in the
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do just dump the ball every time I got it and that's what Louisville fans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it feels like every year We're like can someone just dunk like you are you all afraid to dunk you don't like it is her truffingers Can you tighten the rims to tight?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What happened?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know like So I think it's gonna be really interesting this year to see how for he kind of unlocks the future of Louisville basketball with John and her check on on staff and as I mentioned Mike I think the pieces
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[SPEAKER_03]: bit perfectly around Florey and I think they built from the inside out versus the opposite way they built the first two years and I think that that's got a chance to make all the difference the sheer internment success and that's at this point guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can win 30 games in the season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's great, or they can win 20 games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever it is, I don't really fucking care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I, I've got to get out of the first weekend of the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My daughter, my daughter is nine years old and a week and a half, two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She has not seen a sweet 16 of parents in her life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That bugs me to the core.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we got to break that cycle this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Mike can write a 200 things that little fans have to do before the die book.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's her included.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it gets to the final four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're long overdue for some sort of updated real quick kind of on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: what you were saying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the ways that this whole thing started with the recruitment of Flora Bedonga is that someone who is kind of like behind the scenes that you available and helps make some of these calls, he, like you and like me, like everybody that has kids that are under 10, their kids were experiencing Louisville advancing in the NCAA tournament for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I kept my son up late and I showed him one shiny moment was coming on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, yeah, we're going to watch one shiny moment together and we're waiting to see Louisville waiting to see Louisville and Louisville did not appear in one shining moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this person was like, this was a moment for me where I was like, we can't have this anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we got, and he was like, let's get together with coach Kelsey, let's get together with everybody that matters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the number one player in the portal?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How can we start this process of going after them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the next day was kind of when the Florida Dunga pursuit really began.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a lot to be set for that, where it's just like, we're sick of not having a seat of the table in March, we're sick of not being one of the biggest stories in college basketball in March.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And having one of the best players in college basketball, who hopefully will play more than half the season, this go around, should help us get to that promise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the biggest safety net in college basketball, like you know what you're going to get.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He makes it so if you're having a lack defensive possession, he's going to make up for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He brings the energy that I think everybody on the floor feels like they've got a match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just such a blessing to have for any team in college basketball, but especially one that is looking to make that jump from good back to great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And by a team that's going to play 52 9 p.m. games in the season this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that is, I know that sounds stupid to say, but having a guy like that who can just purely bring energy at 9-32 at night for a basketball game is a difference maker when you play games against teams and you're finishing at 11 p.m. at night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know that sounds silly, but that type of energy is infectious in moments like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've got to tell you, I mean like Mike, I think you're around my age, but like I think that's really cool story because my biggest fear the past going on a decade pushing it is that the younger fans would fall like would not be I guess like implored or I don't know like would not have a calling to be a little fan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They wouldn't see anything and they'd make them love.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, in this team that's university, so like that's a really special thing While we have you here, I don't have this written down, but it just made me think like this isn't flooring related I guess it could be flooring but doing a related bedinga related.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What is what do you think What is face alien what do you believe he said bedinga?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just crammed face space alien What do you think just this team?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, given that we went out and got the guy that was watching TV and he's like, you know what, pluck this, I'm fed up with this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, my kid deserves, right, because I used to cry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got knocked out of 2016, like there was expectation, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not that we made Elite Aates regularly into 97.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that was a special year, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But like, so for you, let flash forward this year, you just told that story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's really cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, what do you think Louisville ceiling is?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think the floor is for this team?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think I'm not going to put national champion out of the realm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's one of those things where you will know if that's attainable after the first month and a half of this season, the first five, six weeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once we got to January, the conversation shifted from, I think we can play with anybody to crazy stuff can happen in March, maybe this team can go on a run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But nobody, I don't think even the most wildly optimistic among us viewed last year's team as a legitimate national title contender, I think with what we have on paper,
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[SPEAKER_02]: you could you could envision that roster winning six games in margin early April.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that is it more like do we feel more like a final four caliber team than a national title team?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but if you get there, you know crazy stuff happens every every now and then the best team in college basketball doesn't win the national championship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean I think the floor obviously you've got injuries we've talked about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know if Seth Trimble and L.J.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wells are going to play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got at that point 11 scholarship players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say Flory gets hurt, let's say Jackson Shell's dead gets hurt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think that it's hard for me to envision this team not making the NCA tournament, but it could be a team that maybe limps into the tournament as like a six, seven seed and got knocked off in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that would be the floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think we all would have complete meltdowns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they wouldn't be understanding, but yeah, I think this is the type of roster that if Shells Ted can be who it looked like he was going to be last season at Oregon before his season got derailed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Adrian Wolley can make that type of jump to being a draftable first round guy that we thought maybe could happen last year if he does it this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Alvaro Fogueras in a system that I think is better suited to his strengths if he can step up and be even more of a reliable Forman and a connector for this team if all these types of things happen and then you get the same from but Dunger that you're expecting and maybe it keys these more ready to compete as a five star freshman Then we were expecting bojang.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can tell you from from people like Illinois wanted bojang.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he has the accrued it to be the sixth man at Illinois, a team that is preseason top three and very much has national title aspiration.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to help us out a lot more than we think, but if he's even better than we think he's going to be, then yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this team could play with just about anybody in college basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the feeling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the the floor is as you mentioned, it comes with a lot of like aspects of injury and this and that my biggest talking point in the floor this year has been if guys have to play outside of themselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If Jackson Sheldt's that in my opinion, this is just my personal opinion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: with the tools and pieces on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jackson Sheldt said shouldn't be your leading score, should not be the guy who drives the bus offensively.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, certainly can be a great distributor or great score as he needs to, but I personally think you need him to be more of that Chuck E. Hepburn than my Kel Brown in terms of just being a floor general.
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[SPEAKER_03]: thing able to get your your pieces in the the right place.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if you start asking guys like Adrian Woolly or guys like Carter Knox to score, you know, a really more Carter Knox or the Schema Montgomery to step up in score 15 to 20 points a game and you ask guys to play out a position and you, that's where the floor starts to come in for me really heavily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think again, the whole reason why that doesn't happen barring injuries that all these guys fit and the way that they play together is so strong collectively of these
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[SPEAKER_03]: But when you start taking things away, whether it's injury, whether it's, you know, set Trimble, J.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wells can't play, and you start asking guys to do things that aren't within themselves, that's where I think you start to hit the floor on this team more so then if we're not talking about injury, because of course any team is good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They lose their best two players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to suck probably.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's very few teams in the country Sand's Duke that can lose their top two players and still compete.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious for you, Mike, last question here from me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When we get to the end of the season, and this is Florida-related, but also not Florida-related, what's the headline on Pat Kelsey?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, for all the things we've talked about, whether the tournament success or lack thereof recently, this roster going all in on, you know, spending as much as they did, Joe Tipton told us that he didn't believe that little had a recruiting budget.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, things like that really just kind of make us chuckle, but in your opinion, Mike, what are we saying about Pat Kelsey at the end of this season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's one of two things and I think they're both definitive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's Pat Kelsey is the guy that can get Louisville basketball back to the top of the sport or Pat Kelsey's not the guy who can get Louisville basketball back to the top of the sport.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what I mean by that, I don't mean that Louisville has to go to a Final Four when the national title for people to be saying this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we know
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[SPEAKER_02]: what championship caliber basketball looks like and it's one of my goals for this season is and it's more nuanced than just saying oh we gotta go to the second weekend or we gotta do this this needs to be a team that throughout the winter Louisville fans point to and say I'm not guaranteeing they're going to win the title I'm not guaranteeing they're going to the final four but I think they can't
01:00:03.775 --> 01:00:18.443
[SPEAKER_02]: Because like I said earlier, once we got our ass handed to us by Tennessee in Arkansas and in December last year and we played Duke early on in conference play, I think we all were sort of like, they could get hot, they could beat some teams in the NCAA tournament, but...
01:00:19.223 --> 01:00:21.384
[SPEAKER_02]: We know what a championship contender looks like.
01:00:21.484 --> 01:00:23.025
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a championship contender.
01:00:23.065 --> 01:00:25.826
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it really dulled a lot of the enthusiasm.
01:00:25.866 --> 01:00:30.249
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone likes to point to my cell and that saga, which I do think played a large part.
01:00:30.589 --> 01:00:42.835
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think one of the main reasons why the fan base didn't latch on to last year's team the way that they did two years ago was they were hoping it was going to be a team that they could at least have realistic dreams about winning three, four, five games in the NCAA tournament.
01:00:43.175 --> 01:00:44.115
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the time we got into the
01:00:45.596 --> 01:00:49.318
[SPEAKER_02]: anyone who is serious with themselves was kind of like, yeah, we're not that.
01:00:49.839 --> 01:00:58.264
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you need to have a fan base that can dream those dreams during those cold days in January where you've got nothing else to really live for and nothing else exciting going on.
01:00:58.624 --> 01:01:00.665
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to have a fan base that can entertain.
01:01:00.685 --> 01:01:00.765
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey.
01:01:02.086 --> 01:01:04.347
[SPEAKER_02]: We could be, you know, traveling throughout March.
01:01:04.367 --> 01:01:17.652
[SPEAKER_02]: We could be playing basketball in the first Monday of April, and I think if he produces a team even if they fall short in the tournament that gives the fanbase that hope will fill optimistic about things going forward with the money that we're no we know we're willing to spend.
01:01:18.212 --> 01:01:27.417
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's a year like last year where, I mean, like you said, we get halfway through the year and we're like, I don't know why we thought Jackson Shelstead was going to be this elite point guard.
01:01:27.437 --> 01:01:28.518
[SPEAKER_02]: He just can't get it done.
01:01:28.958 --> 01:01:31.440
[SPEAKER_02]: And we go to the tournament as a four or five six seed.
01:01:31.860 --> 01:01:34.421
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're just hoping, hey, maybe we can get to the sweet 16.
01:01:35.742 --> 01:01:43.044
[SPEAKER_02]: I think then you start to sort of ask questions about we're given this guy a top five top ten roster in terms of budget.
01:01:43.624 --> 01:01:46.164
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not giving us top five top ten results.
01:01:46.805 --> 01:01:49.145
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is that going to change moving forward?
01:01:49.485 --> 01:01:55.487
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's one of those, I feel like this is the year where fans who have been kind of on the fence, which we all should be.
01:01:55.527 --> 01:01:56.507
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been two seasons.
01:01:57.427 --> 01:02:06.469
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the year where fans decide whether or not they think this is the guy who's the next Denny Crum, next Rick Bettino, or if he's the next Chris Mack, whoever.
01:02:07.410 --> 01:02:08.670
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man.
01:02:08.710 --> 01:02:09.550
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
01:02:10.450 --> 01:02:24.774
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels so forward thinking to look that far ahead, but considering the last two years that Louisville's had and considering, I mean, they really pushed their chips all in on the table this season of saying we could take a step back and not invest as much and try to, you know,
01:02:25.154 --> 01:02:29.857
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, they went all in, they built a roster that was, you know, arguably the top and the portal.
01:02:29.957 --> 01:02:32.819
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, there's a lot of contenders in college basketball this year.
01:02:32.839 --> 01:02:34.140
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a lot of really good teams.
01:02:34.160 --> 01:02:38.263
[SPEAKER_03]: There's certainly what some big moves with coaching, like a Michigan and Dusty May, that impact things.
01:02:38.323 --> 01:02:40.104
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think level isn't mixed.
01:02:40.364 --> 01:02:42.025
[SPEAKER_03]: And right now, that's how you can ask for.
01:02:42.405 --> 01:02:50.291
[SPEAKER_03]: And at the end of the year, if they're not in the mix, then there's a larger question to be had of whether or not that this is a staff that can get that job done.
01:02:50.991 --> 01:02:53.092
[SPEAKER_03]: And help little will take that next step because
01:02:54.093 --> 01:02:57.074
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can win 20 games every year and that's great.
01:02:57.094 --> 01:02:57.974
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that for you.
01:02:58.034 --> 01:03:04.897
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you can't win in March when it matters in this city, there's just no hope for you in terms of being able to figure it out long term.
01:03:04.977 --> 01:03:08.218
[SPEAKER_03]: And we've seen coaches that have crumbled under that.
01:03:08.838 --> 01:03:10.279
[SPEAKER_03]: Chris Mac is a great example of that.
01:03:10.319 --> 01:03:11.899
[SPEAKER_03]: And we've seen coaches rise against it.
01:03:11.999 --> 01:03:18.421
[SPEAKER_03]: And I will say, I thought I've seen a lot of, you know, commentary around people really liking the tone of Pat Kelsey at media day.
01:03:18.521 --> 01:03:23.023
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, some of the comments he's made about keeping doors closed and really keeping the main thing, the main thing.
01:03:23.663 --> 01:03:37.211
[SPEAKER_03]: It's corny off season talk in a lot of ways, but at the same time, I have a lot of respect for the way that Pat's carrying himself through criticism and through I know of what we've seen other coaches crumble major under in the past for football and basketball.
01:03:37.271 --> 01:03:39.793
[SPEAKER_03]: So all that to say Mike, thank you so much for joining us.
01:03:39.813 --> 01:03:46.337
[SPEAKER_03]: We really appreciate it Fresh off the teacher conferences that could have been right cancelable type of night for you.
01:03:46.377 --> 01:03:50.059
[SPEAKER_01]: So we appreciate Who's your dancing with the stars pick
01:03:53.782 --> 01:03:54.923
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great question.
01:03:54.943 --> 01:04:00.848
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really like anybody on the, the season.
01:04:01.028 --> 01:04:02.229
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Guillermo is funny.
01:04:02.269 --> 01:04:03.330
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to wear this.
01:04:03.811 --> 01:04:04.311
[SPEAKER_03]: No, God.
01:04:04.331 --> 01:04:05.753
[SPEAKER_03]: You sure have been eliminated a week one.
01:04:05.813 --> 01:04:06.373
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't dance.
01:04:07.054 --> 01:04:08.315
[SPEAKER_02]: He can't, but he's fun.
01:04:08.375 --> 01:04:09.336
[SPEAKER_02]: He's fun.
01:04:09.376 --> 01:04:10.217
[SPEAKER_02]: People like me.
01:04:10.617 --> 01:04:12.299
[SPEAKER_02]: I went into this being team Sierra.
01:04:12.319 --> 01:04:13.580
[SPEAKER_02]: She got sent home last night.
01:04:14.060 --> 01:04:15.222
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was just about that.
01:04:15.962 --> 01:04:17.924
[SPEAKER_02]: I like Barry likes the one-legged guy.
01:04:17.944 --> 01:04:21.206
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate that I'm calling him the one-legged guy.
01:04:21.246 --> 01:04:22.187
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how I know him.
01:04:23.548 --> 01:04:24.548
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the only thing that I'm in.
01:04:24.568 --> 01:04:28.891
[SPEAKER_02]: I have the age where I don't know 75% of the people in that time.
01:04:28.911 --> 01:04:29.892
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't either.
01:04:30.192 --> 01:04:34.255
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that Mike has become, he's become the rotten tomatoes of dancing with the stars.
01:04:34.295 --> 01:04:36.277
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, that's one, I've won a competition.
01:04:36.317 --> 01:04:39.439
[SPEAKER_04]: So like, you got to show me something in order for me to approve.
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:42.801
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sitting there looking, I'm like, that's not how you're on for supposed to be.
01:04:44.834 --> 01:04:49.736
[SPEAKER_02]: When you're presenting the thumbs down, when you finish the thumbs up, what the fuck is this guy doing?
01:04:49.756 --> 01:04:52.157
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's me, just to do like this.
01:04:52.377 --> 01:04:53.297
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a joke.
01:04:53.337 --> 01:04:54.018
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a joke.
01:04:54.038 --> 01:04:54.818
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a joke.
01:04:54.878 --> 01:04:56.999
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, no, that's not how you do that.
01:04:57.339 --> 01:04:58.739
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't lift in the rumble.
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:00.540
[SPEAKER_02]: What the fuck is this?
01:05:00.560 --> 01:05:04.802
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm looking down in everybody now as my giant trophy sits directly behind it.
01:05:05.803 --> 01:05:24.720
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, one of my greatest accomplishments in a small list of accomplishments in my short career of media is being the host of Mike show the Monday after he won that award and getting to be the one that has to go to his audience and tell them what Mike did and so you know Mike, I have confidence that you could win dancing with the stars.
01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:26.721
[SPEAKER_03]: If it wasn't for that one judge that gave you the eight.
01:05:27.382 --> 01:05:28.843
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was at a center.
01:05:28.863 --> 01:05:31.464
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember telling me that it was a time, it was a no problem with that woman.
01:05:31.644 --> 01:05:32.425
[SPEAKER_03]: Real problem with her.
01:05:32.745 --> 01:05:35.746
[SPEAKER_02]: She apologized at the end of the competition.
01:05:35.786 --> 01:05:37.407
[SPEAKER_02]: She came to me and she apologized.
01:05:37.507 --> 01:05:38.568
[SPEAKER_02]: It was not accepted.
01:05:38.988 --> 01:05:43.690
[SPEAKER_02]: I threw my trophy in her face, but yeah, that was I was floored by that.
01:05:43.730 --> 01:05:46.091
[SPEAKER_02]: Besides that, everybody respected the talent.
01:05:46.231 --> 01:05:46.592
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fun.
01:05:46.612 --> 01:05:50.013
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she accidentally called you Matt Jones before that and then had to do not.
01:05:50.113 --> 01:05:50.714
[SPEAKER_03]: She did not.
01:05:50.734 --> 01:05:51.814
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:05:53.955 --> 01:05:54.536
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just kidding.
01:05:54.756 --> 01:05:59.120
[SPEAKER_03]: But my thing is so much for joining us here tonight, talking for you, but don't get it talking a little bit basketball.
01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:08.708
[SPEAKER_03]: We continue along in our series over the next couple of days, including, I mean, what podcast Mike is going to do a Will Hanky Preview episode?
01:06:08.788 --> 01:06:13.212
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there's many out there that will, but we will, and we will do it with Will Hanky.
01:06:13.332 --> 01:06:14.373
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what we will do.
01:06:14.733 --> 01:06:20.518
[SPEAKER_03]: Any questions you have for Will Hanky Mike as a Trinity guy is or anything you need us to communicate to him overall.
01:06:20.638 --> 01:06:21.659
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a ex guy, right?
01:06:21.959 --> 01:06:37.028
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a
01:06:37.528 --> 01:07:02.266
[SPEAKER_02]: he was retelling the story about Carter Knox on his visit at stake in bourbon and I had had like five people text me and say it's done he's committed and a friend of mine's dad was at stake in bourbon and I tweeted out uh my stake in bourbon sources are saying Carter Knox is there in the mood of the celebratory yeah he brought that up and referred to me as a quote burner accounts and the host of the talk there
01:07:03.752 --> 01:07:04.933
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a great look for me.
01:07:04.973 --> 01:07:08.235
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got huge issues with Will Hakey and his long test right now.
01:07:08.676 --> 01:07:12.739
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to have to work his way back up my list of favorite players now because of that.
01:07:12.759 --> 01:07:14.180
[SPEAKER_02]: Did not love that.
01:07:14.240 --> 01:07:15.081
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
01:07:15.141 --> 01:07:26.630
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that because he told that story of how he is eight for eight on recruiting trips where he goes to dinner or he's involved, but then called you a burner account and then he's just
01:07:27.370 --> 01:07:27.911
[SPEAKER_03]: It was in this watch.
01:07:27.931 --> 01:07:28.151
[SPEAKER_03]: It's sweet.
01:07:28.191 --> 01:07:28.672
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the graphic.
01:07:28.692 --> 01:07:44.132
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's
01:07:44.312 --> 01:07:46.113
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a It's a lovely couple.
01:07:46.153 --> 01:07:46.734
[SPEAKER_04]: Brotherford, dude.
01:07:46.754 --> 01:07:47.294
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you say?
01:07:47.314 --> 01:07:48.515
[SPEAKER_04]: We all love that Mike.
01:07:48.555 --> 01:07:49.455
[SPEAKER_04]: He's one.
01:07:49.495 --> 01:07:50.436
[SPEAKER_02]: We would let it slide.
01:07:50.576 --> 01:07:51.557
[SPEAKER_03]: If it was anybody else.
01:07:51.717 --> 01:07:55.819
[SPEAKER_03]: But we'll hang he is a Lou of Illian and he knows he grew up with Mike Brotherford.
01:07:55.939 --> 01:08:00.742
[SPEAKER_03]: And for him to call you a burner without putting the fat Brotherford account on there is offensive.
01:08:01.042 --> 01:08:04.024
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it would have been fine if he did put the fat Mike Brotherford on there.
01:08:04.044 --> 01:08:05.265
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where he gets out.
01:08:06.005 --> 01:08:08.007
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll deliver that message with Will Hanky.
01:08:08.468 --> 01:08:10.770
[SPEAKER_03]: So shout out to Mike, shout out to Will Hanky.
01:08:10.830 --> 01:08:12.251
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to continue along here.
01:08:12.331 --> 01:08:13.832
[SPEAKER_03]: Boy on Jane Jane, boy.
01:08:13.872 --> 01:08:24.582
[SPEAKER_03]: We got all the guests coming up over the next couple of weeks to finish this out before we head into exhibition season with Kansas in 14 days from right now.
01:08:24.702 --> 01:08:27.644
[SPEAKER_03]: We will be at this time, Mike, in 14 days.
01:08:27.804 --> 01:08:31.768
[SPEAKER_03]: At this time, we will be live on Twitter on YouTube.
01:08:32.068 --> 01:08:34.749
[SPEAKER_03]: everywhere talking about little basketball versus Kansas.
01:08:34.789 --> 01:08:37.370
[SPEAKER_03]: That is a beautiful thing that I can't fucking wait.
01:08:37.530 --> 01:08:38.310
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait.
01:08:38.710 --> 01:08:41.992
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it ten days away from secret scrimmage rumors after Ohio State.
01:08:42.052 --> 01:08:43.052
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, right, right.
01:08:43.092 --> 01:08:43.812
[SPEAKER_02]: And no, that's the podcast.
01:08:43.832 --> 01:08:57.437
[SPEAKER_03]: There is no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
01:08:58.097 --> 01:08:59.238
[SPEAKER_02]: No proof whatsoever.
01:08:59.858 --> 01:09:01.419
[SPEAKER_02]: If we win, we'll report the score.
01:09:01.459 --> 01:09:02.560
[SPEAKER_02]: If we don't, there's no proof.
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:03.541
[SPEAKER_04]: That's exactly right.
01:09:03.641 --> 01:09:04.261
[SPEAKER_04]: I do secret.
01:09:04.481 --> 01:09:04.942
[SPEAKER_04]: You secret.
01:09:05.222 --> 01:09:05.622
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:09:05.662 --> 01:09:07.623
[SPEAKER_03]: Last thing, okay, last really last thing.
01:09:07.763 --> 01:09:10.745
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you've seen there's a trend this year about side basketball games.
01:09:10.805 --> 01:09:15.588
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you help get on my bandwagon if we've got to play a basketball game at Lynn Family Stadium?
01:09:15.909 --> 01:09:18.270
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been on that train for 40 years at this point.
01:09:18.330 --> 01:09:19.391
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been begging them.
01:09:19.791 --> 01:09:23.273
[SPEAKER_03]: I've called a lot of these cell phone 15 times and left voice melons to get
01:09:27.736 --> 01:09:31.158
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't do it, but Mike helped me.
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:32.660
[SPEAKER_03]: We need an outside basketball game.
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:34.481
[SPEAKER_03]: Where do we play an outside basketball game in the level?
01:09:34.501 --> 01:09:35.061
[SPEAKER_03]: The dirt bowl?
01:09:35.081 --> 01:09:36.362
[SPEAKER_03]: We play it in Vame with Stadium.
01:09:36.382 --> 01:09:37.463
[SPEAKER_03]: We play it at Cardinal Stadium.
01:09:37.503 --> 01:09:38.404
[SPEAKER_03]: We play it at Sainax.
01:09:38.424 --> 01:09:38.904
[SPEAKER_03]: We play it at Trent.
01:09:38.924 --> 01:09:40.785
[SPEAKER_03]: Where do we play it outside basketball game in the level?
01:09:41.446 --> 01:09:44.628
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't Churchill Downs the most obvious and easiest answer of all time?
01:09:44.868 --> 01:09:58.737
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you spires in the background, you play it in the infield, you can put a court there, the ground is flat enough, they've got that middle section, that would be an easy national win for us and whoever would play us in that game, I think it'd be fantastic.
01:09:59.535 --> 01:10:03.099
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Louisville can tuck he's screaming at Churchill Downs.
01:10:03.299 --> 01:10:03.800
[SPEAKER_03]: How about that?
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:08.605
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, national announcers just making the worst fucking horse puns you've ever heard you're on.
01:10:08.625 --> 01:10:12.148
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and down, it's like it's the first half Jim calm down.
01:10:12.188 --> 01:10:13.590
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:10:14.151 --> 01:10:16.213
[SPEAKER_02]: His mother was a motor stop, stop.
01:10:16.273 --> 01:10:17.534
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was terrible.
01:10:17.594 --> 01:10:19.316
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, it'd be a cool spectacle.
01:10:19.996 --> 01:10:20.797
[SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly right.
01:10:20.817 --> 01:10:26.801
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, we'll get out of here on that starting 502 podcast Jacob Lane, Alan Thomas Ryan Keeling, Mike Rutherford, check out cardekronacle.com.
01:10:26.821 --> 01:10:28.422
[SPEAKER_03]: My guess is you're already doing that.
01:10:28.442 --> 01:10:29.503
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't need me to tell you that.
01:10:29.543 --> 01:10:30.644
[SPEAKER_03]: You probably already follow him.
01:10:31.004 --> 01:10:33.786
[SPEAKER_03]: So what I will tell you is Mike said you need to follow all of us.
01:10:34.026 --> 01:10:41.171
[SPEAKER_03]: Ad Jacob Lane's here late at killing them tweets at card in underscore aisle YouTube, state of Louisville, all of that.
01:10:41.211 --> 01:10:41.651
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
01:10:41.711 --> 01:10:42.432
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you next time.
01:10:42.452 --> 01:10:42.612
[SPEAKER_03]: Go.
01:10:42.632 --> 01:10:44.593
[SPEAKER_03]: Got any more?