Joy On Purpose

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And let's get into today's episode.
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Welcome back, everybody.
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This is episode 11, uh, Joy on Purpose and How to Cultivate More Joy in every season of life.
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And um to begin with, really, we want to point out that joy really isn't something that you have to find, but something that we create in ourselves.
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Um, when was the last time you experienced joy?
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Not because something big happened or you were on vacation, but simply because you were fully present uh in your life.
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Yeah.
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So now that we're in back to school season, I feel like my joy is walking my kids to school.
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So my my son goes to school nearby.
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And so my daughter every morning, like a happy butterfly, is like, I want to go on this walk too, you know, and it's become a very joyful routine of just noticing the worms on the sidewalk and noticing all the things on the way and getting, you know, outside and having that sunshine and all the things.
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So yeah, that's been a joyful practice for me.
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Yeah.
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The last few weeks.
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Yeah.
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I think there are some distinctions in the wording around joy that we um just want to point out.
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And one of them is happiness that we often use in a circumstance kind of way.
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You know, we associate happiness with um, oh, I'm gonna be happy when I pass that exam or get that raise, or when I'm on this trip, or I'm going on this vacation.
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Or like happy of I look a certain way in a moment, right?
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Exactly.
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It's usually linked to some kind of achievement or or future prospects that we um create in our minds.
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Um pleasure is is something that's uh just a short term, you know, dopamine fix uh feels good in the moment.
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The ice cream or whatever, something short.
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Absolutely.
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And um contentment is appreciating what's here rather than you know chasing the next thing.
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And this episode we really talk um more mostly about joy and contentment.
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Joy as something um a really deeper positive emotional state that can coexist with difficulty.
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Absolutely.
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And I think one thing to remember is like this coexisting, but it also doesn't mean that we're pretending that life isn't hard, right?
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It's it's not this false sense of joy, it's a deeper emotion that's felt that it has to be intentionally cultivated and intentionally thought about to really evoke joy within our bodies.
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And they're not mutually exclusive, you know.
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We can experience them both, especially our generation as we're going through you know, aging and and dying parents.
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Um, there's a lot of grief, um, a lot of transitions, but we can still experience joy and and even with that grief kind of coexisting.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So in positive psychology in the late 90s, Barbara Frederickson came up with this broaden and build theory and has several publications on it, where it really is not, it's the this concept of emotions don't just feel good, but they change what we're able to see and do.
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So as you broaden and build, so I'm gonna talk a little bit about those things, like as you broaden, which is like expanding your inventory of thoughts and actions, um, expanding more joy, love, contentment, happiness, interest, right?
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As you expand that, so maybe it's increasing the amount of time, maybe it's doing more frequently, maybe it's the intention behind it or the lack of being distracted, right?
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Being fully present in that moment.
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You're broadening your joy and then you're building upon it.
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So it's kind of like this layer effect of as you broaden it, all of a sudden you're building more connections, more relationships, more of those opportunities in your life, where it evokes this excitement around adventure and creativity and fun and all of those um physical things that we do that really evoke more joy as well.
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Yeah, and I think this um broaden and build theory really explains uh neuroplasticity, the concept of that.
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And if you've not heard of that, that's really um the science of um how our minds are really um malleable.
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We can change the way that we're thinking, and we can even change with the way that we're thinking what we manifest in our bodies, which is um there's a lot of studies on this, you know, how we create a physical reality with our thoughts.
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Um, for example, uh, the if we're looking at studies that utilize placebos, we know that they're extremely powerful because of the belief that this is a medicine that will help me.
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Um, and when they're taking it, this belief sets off these reactions in the body that really do help them and and uh uh help their symptoms and help them get better.
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So the placebo effect is a is an explanation of uh or or a way of neuroplasticity, the mind affecting the body.
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And neuroplasticity just means that we have the ability to change um routes uh in the brain or ways of thinking.
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So a lot of times um me, I'm personally I'm a total pessimist, I'm a negative thinker, and I know that about myself, and my mind feeds me um nonsense all day, you know, thoughts like, oh, this is so stressful, or oh my gosh, I have to do all these things, and um, this is too hard, or you know, I can't do this, all these negative thoughts.
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Um, and I have learned to recognize these thoughts and stop for a moment and change them.
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So we have that ability to change them, and we're gonna talk a whole lot more about that.
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Yeah, so ultimately joy creates these urges to build upon recreating these new pathways in our brain for neuroplasticity, but also creating more play, exploration, creation, connection, curiosity, savoring, and even feeling more social and engaging with other people.
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And that I think is you know why we're talking about it, because you know, we do have women that we've worked with that are in all seasons of life, right?
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Like they've there's some that are navigating young kids, there's some that have empty nesters, there's some that, you know, um have gone through chronic health concerns and you know perimenopause, right?
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Like they've all had layers of hormone changes in addition to life changes, right?
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And and just circumstantial shifts.
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And this is where you know, joy in each season and throughout, like it can coexist with with the negative emotions.
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Um, and fun fact on that is there's like three to four negative emotions for every positive emotion, right?
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So that's where our negativity usually is at the forefront, you know, this comparison, this judgment, this like, you know, it's it's safe in our brain.
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It's easy to go back to because there's so many negative emotions out there, right?
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Um, but you we have to be intentional in these seasons of instead of you know new mom stress because baby's always crying, you know, I I get to enjoy these moments with my child.
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Um, and re reframing some of those thoughts like you were talking about um in every season.
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So even, you know, my kids, I've raised them the best that I could, right?
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Like when they're out of the house, right?
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Those those shifts as a mom.
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Um, but also in chronic, you know, chronic health conditions.
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I think sometimes that that can be difficult to choose and and be intentional in fostering this joy because it has been a hard journey.
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There has been, you know, gaslighting or lack of answers or more issues that have arose.
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True suffering, right?
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The symptoms are real, and and we have a few clients that have experienced significant suffering and and chronic illness for years.
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Um, and this this negative mindset is definitely part of um staying in this um sick state.
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You know, we we if we stay in this negativity loop and we tell ourselves, I am so sick, I'm feeling awful, you know, all these negative thoughts, you will create that in your body and maintain it.
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It's not gonna get better.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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And so it's really the goal of of this episode, I would say, is like being aware that we have to leave this door open for joy and we have to also cultivate and be intentional about joy.
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Because it doesn't just happen.
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It's not just gonna all of a sudden you wake up one day and you feel joy, right?
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It has to be fostered and it has to be um really built within every person.
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And it's so different to each person as well.
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So if you're finding yourself, you know, as you listen to this, thinking of like, you know, when's the last time I played, right?
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Like, when is the last time you've played?
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You know, like just played.
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Yeah.
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That's uh that's I think joy, um, you know, the the parts of play and creativity, creating something and um adventuring and exploring something, those are kind of higher level functions that we don't get to when we're stuck in this fight or flight, yeah, stress, negativity spiral.
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Yeah.
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Um or responsibilities, right?
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Like as a mom business owner, right?
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It's like task, task, task all day.
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And so where was the time for play?
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Right.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And often those are, and and I know this about myself.
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We drop these and and uh instead clean the kitchen or um focus on uh doing groceries or doing some other task, you know, that's on our task list.
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But is it really essential?
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Probably not.
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The kitchen can get cleaned up later or in the morning.
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Um, but this this intentionality about being present um with the people around you, you know, or with yourself, whatever that looks like.
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But um we don't always have to be productive and functioning.
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It's this is also a society problem, you know, of us um learning really from little that we are only respected and appreciated and can only be happy if we're 100% productive at all, you know, every waking minute.
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And we have to be busy as possibly, as we possibly can.
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And um yeah, I feel like this is going back to our previous episode on like nervous system regulation, right?
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I think there's a there's a direct correlation between our nervous system and our ability to foster joy because when we do feel you know stressed out, it's very difficult to walk away from that task list and actually do something for you that's going to bring joy, right?
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Um something that you know comes up in some of my coaching calls with our clients that I think is worth to discuss is asking that question of like, what do you love about yourself or what do you like to do for fun?
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Those two questions they're often very difficult for clients to answer.
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Really hard.
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Especially in this perimenopausal menopausal group, right?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And I I think there's this is like a the first sign of okay, where can we put more play in our life?
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Where can we put more exploration in our lives?
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And what recreating and finding who you are now, because who you are now is not who you were when you were 20.
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Who you are now is not, you know, who you're going to be when you're 60, right?
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There's this in-between ages of life that I think are so important to find what do you like now in the moment?
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What do you like in this journey?
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Um, and who are you right now?
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Yeah.
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Because that should evolve.
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That's growth, right?
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Like we should, should.
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We should we we do evolve as humans, right?
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And our interest and what we like and what we've learned, right?
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There's there's always going to be change there.
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And so, how do we foster more of this love and self-joy and you know, feeling more comfortable in who we are in this moment?
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I think it's really um a phase of reinvention, this you know, perimenopausal, menopausal transition, where our kids are older, you know, the the big task of raising the children and establishing a career are are done.
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Um, and we're we're having to re-establish what what are our values?
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What do we want?
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You know, what where do we want to be in in 10, 15, 20 years?
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What plans for the future?
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Um, and and this really um goes together with with finding out what what is it that you need and want.
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Um, I just discovered uh rock climbing again that I hadn't done in decades and thought, well, I'd give it another try.
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You know, I have no idea if this is gonna be um fun or stressing me out more.
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I'm afraid of height.
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So for me, it's a huge deal to climb very high and let myself drop.
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And I did it, and it was the most fun I'd had in years, and really love it.
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Um, and I'm really getting back into that.
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So it's a it's a thing I definitely want to keep doing, but finding these things and uh you know, allowing this um to try new or old things again to to define what it is that you want to do, what it is that you you need.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And on that note, I think it's so important to consider what holds you back from joy sometimes, maybe in that relationship realm.
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So imagine you're going climbing, but then you're with a friend that's just negative about everything, like, oh, this is uncomfortable, oh, this hurts my hands, oh, my toes don't fit right in these shoes.
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Like that completely changes that joyful experience if you're surrounded by the negative emotions.
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And so in this perimenopause phase, oftentimes we have less patience for you know the negative and the, you know, the extra and excessive noise, ourselves, right?
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And a lot of that is hormonal shifts, but also that's bringing awareness to things that maybe we were just ignoring, or maybe they were there, but now they're really irritating us um as far as relationships.
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So you know, and the the funny thing is that I went climbing with my good friend Mimi, who is actually a relationship coach, and we're gonna be um having an episode about relationships coming up pretty soon.
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So Mimi Navel is gonna be on the episode.
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Yeah, um, we had a lot of fun climbing.
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Yeah, no negativity on that.
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Yeah, well, so in the meantime, it's like if you're struggling with joy, think about who energizes you, right?
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Who do you want to be around?
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What personalities, who's grounding?
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What um person in your life always is that calm, you know, and that you know you can always have a good time because it's just like roll with the flow, right?
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Who is always full of laughter, you know, and and those types of things are great ways to cultivate joy in our relationships.
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So yeah, I know we'll we'll deep dive into that here in a future episode, but yeah, so important um to choose choose well who you're gonna spend your time with.
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Yeah.
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So let's get practical.
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You know, we're we're talking about joy, but what can we actually do to cultivate joy?
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What does that look like?
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For me, like I was mentioning in the beginning, it's really uh it's been the biggest change has been um shifting the mindset, just having awareness of the negativity, and then um pausing at that time and rewording it.
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So I shift my I have to's into I get to because I chose this.
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I chose this life, I chose this profession, I love what I do.
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And I can with with this simple shift of saying I get to do this today, I am a completely it's it's a 180 turn.
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So much happiness and joy created.
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And over time, this kind of slows down and shuts down this negativity talk in my mind.
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And we we talked a little bit about neuroplasticity and how the mind always by default goes down the negative pathway.
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But when we create a positivity or a positive experience, that pathway becomes broader and the more walk down one where the other one overgrows.
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So um in everybody has to find something for themselves to do um to create joy.
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But um, what is something you do?
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Yeah.
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Melissa.
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I think um, I mean, there's several things that I think create joy.
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I think to me, it's like reminding, it's like gratitude, right?
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It's reminding, like I do keep a daily like journal of just notes of what I'm grateful for or when things, especially if I notice I'm getting negative in my mind, I go back to it's like a calm journal of being more calm, um, is what it's called.
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But it really is like a gratitude of appreciation and digging deep as to like, you know, who you are ultimately.
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Um, to me to cultivate joy though, I get energy from being around people.
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So I think that's like I enjoy our, you know, my husband and I try to do monthly date nights and that connection of doing, you know, let's go bowling or let's go axe throwing or let's go, you know, do something, a hike.
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Like I went for a few years ago my birthday.
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I was like, I just want to go for a hike.
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Like that's what I want to do on my birthday, you know, and those are intentional choices to help cultivate the joy, right?
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Yeah.
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Um, and yeah, like I similar on the reframing.
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I mean, I I do this all the time with with clients when I hear the shouldas, and I'll catch if I say it, I catch myself instead of I should.
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Like, how can I re restate this in my head in a different way?
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Um and I think that's so important because that's the that's the awareness, right?
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That's that's the nervous system in a state that you can hear yourself and be aware to make those shifts, you know.
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So yeah.
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Yeah, and that I think the concept of of savoring is is really key is this um awareness of when there is a joyful moment um and really uh taking uh taking the time to really acknowledgeing and and savoring it.
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So for example, the the morning coffee um instead of multi tactic.
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Asking and checking your email or scrolling or something at the same time.
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Just sit there with your coffee and look um at the beautiful mountain range or you know, something that um and it doesn't have to be for 30 minutes, it can be for one, one minute, you know, it could be for five minutes, it could be thinking a positive gratitude thought at that moment, right?
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Or noticing something or walking barefoot in your garden, right?
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And noticing little ants or bugs, whatever it is.
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There's those are moments of savoring that help foster this joy.
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Yeah, presence, definitely.
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So there is um the joy practice or or how we can foster that is really when you notice something feels good, you stop, you notice it, you take a breath, you name it, um, and stay a few seconds longer than you normally would in that sensation.
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Um, and maybe you even word it for yourself, oh, this is really beautiful, or this is this feels so good right now, and really happy right now.
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Yeah, and Frederickson that we mentioned earlier with her um broaden and build theory in positive psychology, she also talks a little bit about like contentment, and that's where this savoring comes into because contentment's creating this urge for savoring and also for like integrating this into your routine, into your life, into this craving for more, which is that concept of you know, you've rewired these pathways in your brain over time, because this is not an overnight practice.
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This is a lifelong learned um journey of self-awareness and intention, right?
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Um, but as you do cultivate them and bring them, like it attracts more positive people in your life.
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It attracts um, you know, it makes you want to do more journeys and exploration and getting out and not leading with fear or negativity, but with curiosity and with this abundance of, ooh, this will be fun.
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This is a new unknown territory, but I'm gonna, you know, have so much fun, right?
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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And this is so just to um recap this 20-second joy practice, this is something that everybody can do, you know, even if you are really chronically ill or you are super symptomatic and you're in some deep hormone imbalance and you're working through all these things, you can still do this.
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You can still practice this, and it's a very crucial piece in your healing journey.
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You know, if we leave this aside in functional medicine, we we always have to address the nervous system and the joy um piece.
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And and if we neglect it, healing will be stunted or not happen at all.
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So it's very, very crucial.
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And there's quite a few publications, right, on these this emotional connection to our physical health, right?
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Highly depressed individuals often have heart concerns and heart issues.
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Of course.
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Highly anxious, always there's a correlation, not always, but oftentimes there's a correlation with digestive, right?
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In your digestive system and some type of imbalance there.
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And so there's this is you know been researched and studied and proven that our emotional health matters.
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And it if we do not tend to it, that's that's our cost.
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Our cost is our physical health.
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And so, you know, there's there's often even looking at that from a reverse of okay, my stomach's always upset, like things are going on.
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Like, where is anxiety in my life?
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Right?
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Where is the depression in my life with my heart?
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Like, what what can I choose differently?
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You know?
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Um, so absolutely very important.
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I think another point too with joy is like it doesn't have to be productive.
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We you touched briefly on that at the very beginning of we have this this uh ingrained in us of especially as women, like do more, you've got to accomplish all these things in a day, just being like sitting and chilling is just lazy, right?
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But actually it's not, right?
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It it doesn't, and this joy concept is not does not have to be productive.
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Absolutely.
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It can just be finding these moments.
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Even better when it's not exactly like I mean you can have productive joy, right?
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If you're working out and that brings you joy for you, yeah, but um yeah, the the non-productive kind.
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Yeah, well, it's kind of like the example I gave earlier of walking my son to school, right?
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I could look at that on like oh, so many steps per day, yes.
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But is that the motivator on why I'm doing it?
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No, like the motivator is this is a fun, great, you know, time to spend quality time just chatting.
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There's no walking on my phone because I would trip on the sidewalk, like you know, and we're just talking and walking and noticing.
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And yeah, that's the beauty of that, you know, 10-minute.
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I think of um some good, good song coming on, and you just have a little dance off in the kitchen or um silliness, you know.
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Um dinner, we talked about that earlier, you know, sitting down with your family without distraction and just um enjoying each other's company, really being present and talking um during meals.
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Absolutely.
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So, yeah, it's it's fun.
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And if you don't know what's fun in your life, like explore and figure out what's fun because that's where you're gonna also find more joy.
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Exactly.
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And then um really what is a great way of practicing more joy is to create your own joy list.
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Yeah.
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So we're gonna have a an attachment to this episode with a just a sample joy list with with different um things you can do that don't have to take a lot of time.
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One to five minutes is is enough.
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And you can use that as an inspiration to make your own joy list.
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Yes, I highly recommend.
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Absolutely.
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And we're also gonna leave you with a joy challenge that will launch on our social media channels in this week.
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So it's gonna be a seven-day joy challenge where each day you'll have a task, something you can do, something that's easy.
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And so be sure to follow us.
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Those are also in the show notes.
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Be sure to follow our social media channels because you'll see that.
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Um, and we'll do it along with you.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Um, so yeah, to wrap up here, um I want to leave you with some questions.
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What used to bring me joy that I've stopped making space for?
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I think this one is a really good one to ponder as you take this episode with you and are intentionally cultivating more joy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Who brings out the most joyful version of me?
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That's regarding the relationships that that foster joy.
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Yeah.
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Um am I resisting right now in this season, right?
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Or am I experiencing it and present in it?
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Yeah.
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What's one small thing that I can do today or this week?
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Um, simply to create some joy.
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Absolutely.
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And I think um one of the things worth mentioning is that of course, joy is a bit of an esoterical concept.
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And in in functional medicine, we always like to look at the science and the hard facts and your labs to see what's happening in your body.
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But that's only part of the story.
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You know, we can um address all these um different physiological things, um, things happening in your body, but if we're not addressing uh the mindset, um, the spiritual health, your your mental health, your joy at the same time, the healing can't be complete.
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And this is really uh a key concept that we need for healing.
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100%.
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And it it's not going to be perfect.
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I think that's an important thing to remember is it's not creating this life where nothing hurts because we are in phases where family members are passing away and where you know there's hard things that we are navigating.
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But maybe it's creating this life where you're noticing in the moment the beauty, you're really intentional in fostering that, even when there's pain.
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Okay.
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So create a little joy today.
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And if you need help with that, then come work with us.
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Um, we will we would love to help you create a joy practice and um dive into all things functional medicine with you.
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Thanks for being here.
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All right, friends, that's a wrap for today's episode of Shift Happens, Hormones Unfiltered.
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