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NC State wrestling fans, it is March, March madness. It
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is time for the postseason. A lot of wolf Pack
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action coming up, starting with this weekend the twenty twenty
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six ACC Championships, and a little bit different of a preview.
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Got one hundred and fifty seven pounder Jackson Arrington joining
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us today. Jackson, you got some big shoes to fill.
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Pat's not going to be on his end podcast once again,
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so you're stepping up here and helping us out with
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a little bit of a preview.
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Yeah, of course, you know, I'm excited. I'm excited. I
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love talking wrestling, so I know.
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Unfortunately, you'd rather be in action than having to watch
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this action. But you were kind of you know, you
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retard last year, so you got to see it from
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the stands. As a wrestler. What do you think of
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this tournament nationally here?
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Yeah, you know the ACC is is it's different than
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a lot of other conference terms because there is only
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like seven guys in it, so you you it's only
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one day, so that takes out the two day weigh
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in like like some other tournaments, but it's condensed, so
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you know you're first and you'll have two or three matches,
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but they're all be very good. You you'll have good
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competition each match, you know, and especially in the ACC,
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it's really growing and becoming more competitive. So the ACC
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is a fun tournament because one day, you know, you're
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at usually a rival school. I think this year it's
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at Virginia Tech, so that would be a good atmosphere.
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So yeah, I'm exacite it for it.
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Yeah. ACC got the most allocations of all time. Five
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teams finished in the top twenty five, so it's gonna
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be a great tournament. And uh, before we get to that,
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got to talk about you individually here, I gotta matched.
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Unfortunately you are not going this year. Uh you got
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shut down, had surgery kind of how are things going
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right now for you?
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Good? You know I had surgery in December. Obviously that
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was not what I wanted, not what I I saw
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this year, you know, going as far during the preseason
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and last year. But you know, you take what comes
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and uh you just roll with it. Recovery is going
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really well. You know, my pet is going really well.
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The my Cody and the specialists are saying I'm doing great,
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and uh, you know, everything's coming along really well. I
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think I'm about eleven weeks out now, so you know,
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I'm just itching to get back on it. I think
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this is the longest I've ever taken off the mat,
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so it is. It is. Uh there for a little bit,
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it was starting to make me go a little bit crazy.
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But once I was able to start lifting legs and
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stuff and working with our strength coach, he's been really
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good as well. So but no, everybody's been doing a
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great job of, you know, keeping me in the loop.
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And you know, I'm always there around talking with the
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guys and helping guys out, uh lifting myself working out,
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so you know, it's it's I haven't really slowed down
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much on the workouts. It's just different types of workouts,
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you know. Rather than doing you know, two practices a day,
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maybe I do cardio and like a strength session. So
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it's just a different, different kind of I've never had
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to do this type of you know, recovery, this type
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of like pace before, so it's a little bit different.
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But it's going well.
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We saw you started this season with the shoulder harness.
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Could was there a moment that you heard it or
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just kind of talk about how it all went down.
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Yeah, Yeah, I mean, it was kind of something that
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was was bugging me for a little bit, and it
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happened before and then gradually through the season it was
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just kind of not getting better getting worse, and it
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was always something that we were monitoring and just you know,
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seeing how it is what works. And the brace was
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just really annoying to wrestle with. So after a while,
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I was just like, you know, I can't wrestle with
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this thing anymore. Like it's just it was huge, bulky,
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really hot, like it's made out of that material, like
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like almost like a wetsuit material. Yeah, so it just
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feels like it's like smothering you. So there was a
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point where like it was a I don't remember after
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what match it was, but I was just like, you guys,
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gotta get this thing off me, like I can't wear anymore.
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So I think it was like a we wrestled app
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State and I told Cody, I was like listen, like
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I'm not wearing this thing, Like I just can't wear it.
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It's killing me. Like. So, yeah, it was just something
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we were monitoring for a while, and then it just
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got to a point where it was just it wasn't
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really sustainable long term and it was just better to
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get it fixed.
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Okay, And I know recovery is a big thing for you.
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I don't know what the plan is yet, but do
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you think freestyle here and all the summer or you
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just kind of just focus on recovery.
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Yeah, obviously I would love the wrestle freestyle. You know
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if during my red shirt I did a lot of
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freestyle with with Jamil Trent and that was something that
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I really had a good time doing last year. I
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hope I can. I can get into some, but I
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think right now the goal is just you know, next season,
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you know, That's That's what I'm looking forward to right now.
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Just trying to keep my head straight and take it
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one day at a time.
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Going up to Virginia Tech for this weekend's ACCEDS.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be there. I wouldn't miss it,
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wouldn't miss it.
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Yeah, ah, great segue there. But I know you got
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your brackets out when you were competing. What type of
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guy where you did you like to look at your
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bracket or did you not care and just went out
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there and to wrestle.
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So usually I'd have like a pretty decent idea because
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when I had did it. Stanford wasn't last time I
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was there, Stanford wasn't in the ACC yet, So the
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one in the two seeds would get buys. So you
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would wrestle in the semis. So I'd usually have a
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good idea who I was wrestling. It wasn't something I
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usually had to look at too much. I think that
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both the years I was there, I was the two
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seed and Henson was the one seed. Ye, and then
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my freshman year I wrestled the Virginia guy in the
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summis and then my sophomore wrestled the UNC guy in
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the summers. But well, yeah, usually I'm not a huge
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bracket guy. Like I like to know roughly where I'm at,
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but I usually don't analyze anything too crazy. If anything,
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I look at the other brackets yep, you know, more
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as like a just like a fan of like wrestling,
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instead of just look at the other brackets to see
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what's going to go.
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And this is kind of unique, Like you said, uh,
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first and second, you used to get a buy. Now
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just the number one gets a buy. How tough was
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it because you went there you had to weigh in
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two hours before the start, But just because the start.
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The semi finals were another two hours, so you kind
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of had four to five hours.
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How tough of a weight is that?
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Yeah, Well that's what's like special about the ACCS is, yeah,
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you get that buye, you have a lot of time
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after you're weighing, so you can put more into your
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body than you would for normal two hours. But it's
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also being able to manage how much you're going to
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put in, because if you put too much in, then
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you're gonna be really sluggish. So you almost want to
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treat it as if you're going to wrestle in that
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first round, like, Okay, I'm gonna get myself ready, put
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some stuff in, refeel feel good. Then maybe at that
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two hour mark, you move around, you get your warm wepon,
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just start to feel good. But also if you're a
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guy that has that first round and you get a
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match in before the guy you're wrestling, I feel like
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you're you're more prepared going into that match. So if
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you're the guy getting the buy you gotta make sure
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you get that hard warm and whether it's you know,
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you do a hard spa match, maybe maybe you do
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a tiny bit of live just to get your heart
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rate up. To some sprints, just almost like simulate like
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you had that match, because the other guy will be
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coming in, you know, pretty warmed up and pretty ready
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to go.
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Trent highly took some pride and dubbed it the Breakfast Club.
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Yeah, yeah, that was that was a big thing. If
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you were the one of the two seed, then you
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got a big breakfast at the you know, the hotel,
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or they would get some sort of like pancake eggs,
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you know, potato breakfast. Yeah. I can't remember the exact
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name he called it, but yeah, it was the Breakfast Club.
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Yep, U NC State this year, three top seeds, so
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three guys will have a buye. We're gonna start here
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one twenty five. Vincent Robinson got the three seed, so
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he has the uv A Kid. I think Uva Kid
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is very athletic, just like n They didn't face each other,
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so I mean that's gonna be a huge match.
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Up to start.
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And then if Vince wins, he has the two guys
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that he lost to Provo vent Tresca. So this is
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a bit of a rough tournament for Vince here. He's
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really gonna be challenged with these matches.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly, But I think when you get to
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the national tournament, that's what that's what's going to be
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like too. You know you're gonna be challenged. You're gonna
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have guys that maybe you've lost to or maybe you've
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had close matches with. So I think wrestle that now
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he beats the Stanford guy, he beats Virginia Tech. That
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guy gives him a lot of confidence going in the
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National tournament. And he's a guy that was there last year,
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wrestled in close matches with guys that were that were
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high level, you know, was able to win in the
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last couple of seconds, was able to win an ultimate rideout.
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So I think that that. I think he's a competitor.
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So I think whenever the whenever the time comes for
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him to really step up and do something, he's a
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guy that's going to do it.
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And I think when I asked you to do this,
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I was kind of thinking like you and Henson kind
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of comparable to him and Ventresco, where you lost a
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couple to Henson, then you finally got that win. So
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what does what does Vince have to do to get
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over that hump and beat that rival that he hasn't
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had a chance to.
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Yet right, And that's that's something I talked with him
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about briefly, was like, hey, man, I've been here, Like
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I know how this is. You wrestled him in the
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duel last year you lost. You wrestled him at ACC's.
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You know, you wrestled him in the duel this year.
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Like you're just and you just feel like you're just
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chipping away, chipping away, chipping away. It's getting closer and closer. Eventually,
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it's just about just seizing that opportunity. You know, you
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only get to wrestle them so many times. Like eventually
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it's like, Okay, I gotta take those risks. I gotta shoot,
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I gotta get in on his legs and take him down.
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I'm not gonna be able to win if I don't
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get take those so kind of pulling all that together
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into one match is hard, but it's like that's what
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it's going to take to beat like a guy that
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you've never beat before, and then once you get over
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that hump, that's just a huge confidence.
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Uh.
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I thought it was interesting this weight only got three allocations,
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but five guys are ranked. Kind of I ask you,
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Zach writing for the past to the three seed how
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was he coming in? He came in as a transfer.
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Sometimes it's hard to come into a new team, But
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how do you know, Zach, how was.
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He in the room this year?
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Very good? So we had him and Brophy come in
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and yeah, like talking with those guys like it's it's
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something that we really haven't done a whole lot of
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was having transfers in and wrestler. But these two guys
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have slay in very well. They're both really good teammates,
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they're both really good friends, and they have contributed a
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lot just overall to the team kind of culture and
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the way everybody interacts. So they've been doing really well.
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I mean he came out writing swinging in the summer,
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you know, in practice, wrestling really hard. He's a hard worker,
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hard hand fighter. So yeah, he's everything that we wanted.
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He has another tough matchup that kid from UVA, another
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very athletic kind of contrasting styles didn't face each other.
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This is kind of the first three matches. It's all
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pack UVA guys said, Ryan's got one too, about one
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forty one, but that's gonna be a great matchup. And
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then he has two guys that he could see that
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he fell to, so kind of the same situation as Vince,
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and like I said, very important because that weight only
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has three allocations.
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Yep, yeah, you know sometimes that's just the way the
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brackets work out, with the way that RPI works, like
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you need a certain amount of matches, need a certain
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amount of wins, win percentage, like all that stuff plays
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in the allocating those spots. That's why it's really important
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during the season to make sure everybody's locked in and
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you know, showing I'm making weight wrestling. But yeah, thirty
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three we had two guys, so kind of during the year,
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we're bouncing back and forth for yourself out and I
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believe we wrestled Troy against the UVA guy, so Redding
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hasn't faced him yet. But I think stylistically Redding's a
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really hard guy to take down. You know, you get
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to his legs and it's very hard to finish on him.
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He's a great scrambler, So I like how he looks here.
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Ryan Jack up at one forty one.
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Uh, you spent a lot of time with him last
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year because you guys were in the same boat. Red Shirt,
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he's got the three seed, those three guys at the
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top they all beat each other, so this is a
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very wide open weight.
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But Ryan Jack's last year.
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How he's a former ACC champion, just like yourself from
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two years ago.
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It took last year off, But how hard do you
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think it is to repeat in this conference?
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Yeah, you know he's had a wait too. That has
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some some new guys in it that that you know,
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he hasn't wrestled before first round. He's got a guy
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that beat him in the duel, so I think that's
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a good one for him to, you know, get back.
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That gives you momentum moving forward. So you're gonna have
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to wrestle guys that have beaten you. Like I said
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with Vince, You're gonna have to beat guys that beating
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you this year. That's just how it's gonna be. Same
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thing with RJ. You're gonna have to beat guys that
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beat you. You know, this is the a SEC tournament.
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This is for yourself. You're wrestling for your school ultimately,
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but you're wrestling for yourself as well. You know this
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postseason is it cumulatively is for the team, but individually
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you get to accomplish what you want. And I think
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RGIE is very hungry you know, this is his last year.
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You know, he wants to do great things. He wants
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to compete well. So I really like the way he's
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going into this ACC tournament.
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Mentally one nine.
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Someone that we've just seen kind of really shoot up
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the rankings here this year are Koy Biskins coming off
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a great win there against Cornell to close it out,
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a lot of momentum again, top three. They all kind
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of beat each other up a little bit this year.
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Choy comes in as the one season so he does
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have that buye. But just talk about the progression of
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Koy's career that you've seen here over the not even
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this past season, but even the summer leading up to
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this year.
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Yeah, I mean, he he is a guy that I
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had kind of known a little bit when he was
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in high school. He wrestled with some of my friends
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in high school and he would win. He was just
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a guy that would go out and just crush people
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in high school. So I think coming into college it
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was about you know, finding that developing, developing, developing, And
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you know, last year, I don't think he got the
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result that he wanted, and I think over this summer
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he really just locked in. He focused, he got better
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what he needed to, he gained his confidence. You know,
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he works hard. He's just the full package, you know,
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wrestling wise. I mean, you've seen some of the crazy
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things he does to get out of takedowns. I've never
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seen some guys. A guy could have double up in
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the air, hands locked and Cloi will find a way
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to get out of it. He's just a guy that
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wrestles through, he wrestles hard. He really just has it all.
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So I'm super excited for him this year. Like I can't,
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I can't say it enough, how excited I am for
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him going into this postseason. I think he's going to
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do great.
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Have you been able to take him down in practice.
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When I was back?
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Yeah? Yeah, yeah, right, I was on that guy that
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was ye I'll say that he is a he's an
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athlete yep. And again like he uh, he could wrestle
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either the Stanford guy or the Virginia Tech guy. Yeah,
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you know this weekend, so I'd like to see both
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those matches. I think Koy he beat up the Stanford
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guy and then he dropped one to the Virginia Tech guy.
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But I think that's a match that Cooy gets back again.
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I think he gets by it pretty good. I think
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he's gonna do well one.
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Seven year wait of course, so you always have an
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eye on this, but I don't think he faced any
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of these guys. So he just kind of a weird
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weight class here. Someone we haven't talked about too much,
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filling in for you, Luca Felix, red shirt, freshman, Morgantown,
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West Virginia. We know he's taking some washes this year,
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but I think he competes. I mean, he's always out
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there competing in this matches. Just how tough was his
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situation to come into the line up here?
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Yeah, you know that is that is a tough situation
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because he's a guy that he is a competitor. He
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wrestles hard, like he's not going to go out and
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and you know he's gonna give one hundred percent after
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every time. He's a guy that's gonna wrestle really hard.
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You know, he was he was behind me and then
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after my situation and then Daniel Zepeda gets hurt as well,
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and the coaches are like, all right, somebody needs to
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step up. And he was the guy that you know
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was there and was like I'm here, you know, like
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what are you guys gonna do? I'm here, like I
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want the spot. That's me. So he's been doing a
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great job developing and you know, just stepping up to
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that spot because he is in a tough spot, you know,
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having to fill in. So but he he's wrestling like
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he's not a filling like, he's wrestling like he is
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the guy. So that's what we want to see. And
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I think he's gonna think he's gonna do well. He's
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got the first one against Dylan Evans. I think he's
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gonna get that one back and we'll go from there.
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I think he's looking good.
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Little undersize too. I don't know if he's a true
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one fifty.
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Seven right, And that's another thing. It's like, all right, man,
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like we know, we know, like you might be a
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forty nine, like if you want it to be, so,
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like what are you gonna do? And that's what he's
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He's lifting hard, he works hard. I think, you know,
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under the rices circumstances, he's a guy that's gonna do
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really well, you know in the future.
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One sixty five true freshman Will Denny went undefeated, has
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the top seed.
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I thought it was great. I had wheeled on the
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podcast earlier.
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He said, you beat the living crap out of him
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for a long time over the summer, but he's like,
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I needed that when I came to college. I needed
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to be humbled and get that. And he really thanked
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you a lot for the effort.
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But maybe not at the time, I'm sure, of course.
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Yeah, yeah, but talk about what you've seen from him.
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I mean, he's really been someone we knew he was
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gonna be good when he's coming in, but maybe not
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as a true freshman.
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Yeah, you know, he's I was in. I compared and
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I talked with him a lot. We were kind of
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in similar situations like coming into NC State. You know,
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I came in my freshman year and Treek Wilson had
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just graduated, and it was like forty nine's kind of
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an open spot, like we want you to be the guy,
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Like we want like I work hard, and like you're
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gonna be the guy and I think you could do
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really well. And he was in a similar situation. Derek
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Fields graduates last year. Sixty five is a spot where
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it's like and it's up for grabs, you know who's
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going to step up and do it? And he was
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a guy that competed really hard in high school and
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he just kept building and building and building. And then
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this summer. Yeah, like I said, I wrestled with him
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a lot, and before he got to college, I would
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wrestle with him a little bit. But just his progression
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that he's gradually kind of put on through to now,
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it has just been incredible. He's just been jumping levels,
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jumping levels a week by week, and I'm super excited
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for him. He's a guy he competes hard, he wrestles hard.
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You know, he works hard, he does everything right. So
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he's just he's the staple of kind of NC State
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and the culture that we have here.
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How tough do you think it is? If you're the
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number one seed, undefeated, everybody's gunning for you.
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Yeah, like you have that target on your back. But
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the thing for Will is he's also a true freshman.
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He's out to, you know, show people who he is.
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You know, he's out there going, Okay, yeah, you know,
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I am the number one seed, but I'm gonna go
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out and wrestle like I'm not like I'm gonna wrestle
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like I'm hunting. I'm still hunting for everybody. So he's
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out to prove.
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Something, so I think that one's a little interesting. Virginia
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Tech made a change late the Stanford kid bumped up
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about two weight classes, so one sixty five. It's gonna
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be interesting to see how that one plays out.
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Yeah. Yeah, they they were wrestling Burton and then they
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went with Mac Church, who wrestled last year. He was
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a national qualifier last year, I believe, right, yep, So yeah,
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it'd be interesting, don't I don't think Will did not
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wrestle him this year. He wrestled Burton twice. I think,
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got national duels and the duel meet and they were
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one in one with each other, and I think I
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think they're red shirting Burton, so they're gonna go with Church.
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But yeah, yeah, I really like I like Will Denny
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where he's at, and I think he's gonna do really well.
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One person from your recruiting class, Maddy Singleton at one
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seventy four. Another way, it only got three allocations and
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there's five guys rank, so that's gonna be competitive. He
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really turned it on March last year, won the a
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SEC title, went on All American. We've seen him perform
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all year. What do you think of Maddie going into
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the postseason this year.
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Yeah, kind of similar to Vince. Maddy is a competitor.
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Last year, I think we saw him take some losses
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earlier in the year. He lost to Luke Augustine last
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year in the season and ended up beating him at
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the ACCS and that's kind of this year. He lost
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to Luca again in the dual meet, and I think
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if history repeats hisself, I think he's gonna beat him
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again in the ACCS because that's just how mad he is.
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He's a competitor, you know, when he needs to step
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up and get it done, that's what he does. And
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I think we have a lot of guys like that,
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Vince being another one, Coroy being another one. Will Like
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those are guys that are competitors. When they compete, they're
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gonna compete hard and they're gonna get give it everything.
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So yeah, and then he didn't wrestle the Duke kid,
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I believe during the dual meet, So that'll be a
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good Simmons. I have to think Mattie's looking really good
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in the room. He has a lot of confidence, so
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I'm excited for him.
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One eighty four.
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Don Kate's final year, came back to the program after
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two years away. Really has filled a need there for
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one eighty four for you guys, But kind of when
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he came back, what did you guys think? It's like,
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this guy was away for the program for two years.
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How's he going to hold up? How's he going to contribute?
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How did as the season went on? What did you
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see from Kate's here?
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Yeah? You know, Don was here in my freshman year
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and he left after my freshman year, and he was
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gone my sophomore junior year, and this year one eighty four,
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it's like, hey man, we we kind of got a
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hold here, like and he's like, yeah, I'm there, I'll
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do it. So he comes back happy, he's happy to
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be here. And that's the that's the thing that I
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really like about Donas he's he's there, he's here for
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the team as well. You know, it's like he's here
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for himself, but he's also doing it for the team.
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You know, we're all we're all friends with Don. I've
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known Don for a while since I got here. He's
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a great guy everybody. And when you see that at
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the Cornell duel as well, it's like, Don, we need
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you to lock in here, like you can't give up
485
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a certain amount of points or else the team loses.
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And once he do, he gets the job done and
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he able to save the duel for us. And that's
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just the kind of guy Don is. He's a he's
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a team player. He's a guy that you know, if
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you ask something form, he's going to do it. So
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but yeah, I've been really happy with him coming back.
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I think for taking that much time off and being
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thrust right back into Division one wrestling is just incredible.
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I don't think there's a lot of people that can
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do that.
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I think he's happy at eighty four. He was not
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happy at sixty five, so I think that.
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Yeah, true too.
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That's another thing too, It's like, yeah, he's not making
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one sixty five, so yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's that
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makes him happy.
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Uh up till one eighty seven. You kind of mentioned him, Brophy.
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It's gonna be competing at the ACCS for the first time.
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There's three guys ranked eleventh or better. They got the
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three allocations. Brophy's right on that next line. That's a
506
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very tough wait there. But he also joined you guys
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kind of mid season. I mean we're just seeing some
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unique circumstances this year. But can you talk about what
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he's kind of gone through to He trained with you
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guys a little bit in the fall.
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Semester, but was not able to compete.
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What do you think it took for him to be
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here at NC State now competing after missing the first semester.
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Yeah, that's he's in especially a tough spot because he's
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coming from somewhere where he wasn't able to train like that.
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He wasn't able to be in a college room consistently
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and be here every day like he would come and
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train with us sometimes. But I mean that was just
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the fact that, like his situation was just that he
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wasn't able to be here the whole time. But then
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he gets here and he's like the new guy on
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the team as well, you know, but he's a guy
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that liked writing. They came and fit right in. You know.
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He's a great guy. Brophy's great funny and he really
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kind of slid right into that one ninety seven spot
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that we needed. He's been wrestling hard. I think when
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he got here, I think he kind of took like
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a bump or two through like that first couple of
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weeks he was here, but I think he's really kind
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of bounced back, just like realizing that, hey man, we
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brought you here for a reason. We didn't bring you
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here to start throwing out crazy moves and like doing
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stuff you've never done before, Like we want the Patrick
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Brophy that we watched two years ago, year ago, Like
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that's the brophy that we want to do what you do,
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and we're gonna be here. We'll help you, we'll steer
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you in the right direction. And I think ever since then,
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he's been doing a great job his wres. Guy wrestles hard.
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You know, he's a great gas tank. He wrestles hard.
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I mean, if you watch his opponents when they wrestled
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him in the second period, they're gased, they're tired every
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time he wrestles. So but yeah, he's been great.
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You were one of the guys he thanked for always
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staying in the room afterwards and just kind of showing
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some basis because the kid didn't start wrestling until he
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was in high so he's very appreciative of you guys
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staying late and kind of showing them a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, and yeah, that's the thing is like the
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jumps he's made since then. It's crazy, Like most guys
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that are in Division one wrestling start wrestling when they're
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like toddlers and they're like children. But like there's some
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guys out there that are able to they start later
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and they're able to get to this point. It's just
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it's impressive.
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Last weight heavyweight Isaac Trumbull, all us Wolfpack fans were
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all hoping that he doesn't come out with another big
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knee brace like you did last year.
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So uh but uh, you know, he went undefeated.
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He's there's some decent guys up at heavyweight, but he
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kind of stood he's in that tier above. I believe
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what kind of motivation it is for you guys to
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go out when he's out there, watching him get bonus
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points and helping this team, and how important is he
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in this lineup?
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Yeah? I mean we've seen it multiple times this year
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where the match comes down at heavyweight and it's like, Isaac,
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we need you man, like we did like we need
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bonus here, we need a pin here, we need you
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to win this match like and he steps up time
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and time again, and I think that's just like speaks
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a lot about Isaac he's he's a competitor. He's a
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guy that's going to go out. He's going to get
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the job done consistently. You know, he wrestles hard. He
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wasn't able to wrestle the first little bit of the
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season and came back. Hasn't skipped the beat. You know,
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he's been wrestling hard ever since. Beat the Pitt guy,
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he beat uv a like he's beat all these guys.
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And yeah, he's right there, and I think he's a
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serious national title contender as with some of our other
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guys as well.
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What uh, he's everybody's favorite for his celebration afterwards, But
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what kind of what kind of teammate is here?
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How's he in the room?
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He's a great guy, Isaac. He's he's a guy you know,
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if you ask anything on him, he's going to help you.
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Great teammate, motivator, you know, he he does care about
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this team and he wants everybody to do well. You know,
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he's a guy that's a practice trying to help different guys,
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and so yeah, he's a good, great teammate.
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This was a cool breakdown. You gave a different perspective.
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I appreciate good and all that, but I had to
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ask you before we get you out here, prediction what
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team this year will win the ACC Championship.
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US I believe is gonna win it. Of course I
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would not even if I didn't think so, I would
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say it anyway. But I truly believe like we have
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a special team this year. We have a lot of
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guys that are serious national title contenders. I think this
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is a year where guys have really broken out some
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guys and really separated themselves above other years, and I
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think like this is this is a great year for US.
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A lot of guys have huge opportunities. So I'm super
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excited about it.
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So we're recording this on a Wednesday. The championships are
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on Sunday. Kind of walk us through, maybe not day
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by day, but how is this team preparing? What is
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going on these final few days before the accs.
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Yeah, right now, guys are you know, keeping their waiting check,
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making sure they're recovered, they're hitting recovery centers. Are just
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kind of fine tuning the last few things. You know,
611
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your technique is set for the season. You know, at
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this point you could fix a little bit of things
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and fine tune some different positions, but you know, right now,
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everybody's just getting themselves in the right headspace, whether yeah,
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that's getting a little bit more recovery in, or maybe
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it's getting some extra practices in, but everybody's just kind
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of getting themselves ready for the end of the season
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and just trying to put them because everybody has a
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different path and everybody has a different track on what
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they need to do in order to feel like they're ready.
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So one guy might need to get an extra practice in,
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one guy might need to do some more cardio, one
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guy might need to take the day off, you know
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and just recover. So the coach will do a good
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job of managing that, and the guys do a good
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job of managing themselves too. So yeah, the next few
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days will just be about keeping your wait in check
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and just getting yourself ready mentally.
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I'm excited. I hope you're excited. I know you're excited
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for it. Sadly, like I said, like I said, it
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sucks that you have to watch it from the stands,
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but we know you'll be back in a couple of years,
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and this team's going to be fun to watch here
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in the postseason. At ACC's got NCAA's got a lot
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of guys that can really finish up high here coming
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on agree. I agree, so Jackson, thanks for joining us.
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This is another episode of Pack Mentality Poppins podcast covering
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NC state wrestling. Until next time, God Wolf Pack
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NC State wrestling fans, it is March, March madness. It
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is time for the postseason. A lot of wolf Pack
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action coming up, starting with this weekend the twenty twenty
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six ACC Championships, and a little bit different of a preview.
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Got one hundred and fifty seven pounder Jackson Arrington joining
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us today. Jackson, you got some big shoes to fill.
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Pat's not going to be on his end podcast once again,
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so you're stepping up here and helping us out with
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a little bit of a preview.
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Yeah, of course, you know, I'm excited. I'm excited. I
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love talking wrestling, so I know.
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Unfortunately, you'd rather be in action than having to watch
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this action. But you were kind of you know, you
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retard last year, so you got to see it from
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the stands. As a wrestler. What do you think of
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this tournament nationally here?
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Yeah, you know the ACC is is it's different than
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a lot of other conference terms because there is only
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like seven guys in it, so you you it's only
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one day, so that takes out the two day weigh
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in like like some other tournaments, but it's condensed, so
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you know you're first and you'll have two or three matches,
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but they're all be very good. You you'll have good
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competition each match, you know, and especially in the ACC,
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it's really growing and becoming more competitive. So the ACC
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is a fun tournament because one day, you know, you're
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at usually a rival school. I think this year it's
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at Virginia Tech, so that would be a good atmosphere.
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So yeah, I'm exacite it for it.
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Yeah. ACC got the most allocations of all time. Five
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teams finished in the top twenty five, so it's gonna
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be a great tournament. And uh, before we get to that,
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got to talk about you individually here, I gotta matched.
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Unfortunately you are not going this year. Uh you got
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shut down, had surgery kind of how are things going
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right now for you?
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Good? You know I had surgery in December. Obviously that
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was not what I wanted, not what I I saw
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this year, you know, going as far during the preseason
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and last year. But you know, you take what comes
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and uh you just roll with it. Recovery is going
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really well. You know, my pet is going really well.
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The my Cody and the specialists are saying I'm doing great,
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and uh, you know, everything's coming along really well. I
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think I'm about eleven weeks out now, so you know,
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I'm just itching to get back on it. I think
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this is the longest I've ever taken off the mat,
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so it is. It is. Uh there for a little bit,
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it was starting to make me go a little bit crazy.
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But once I was able to start lifting legs and
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stuff and working with our strength coach, he's been really
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good as well. So but no, everybody's been doing a
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great job of, you know, keeping me in the loop.
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And you know, I'm always there around talking with the
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guys and helping guys out, uh lifting myself working out,
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so you know, it's it's I haven't really slowed down
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much on the workouts. It's just different types of workouts,
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you know. Rather than doing you know, two practices a day,
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maybe I do cardio and like a strength session. So
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it's just a different, different kind of I've never had
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to do this type of you know, recovery, this type
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of like pace before, so it's a little bit different.
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But it's going well.
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We saw you started this season with the shoulder harness.
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Could was there a moment that you heard it or
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just kind of talk about how it all went down.
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Yeah, Yeah, I mean, it was kind of something that
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was was bugging me for a little bit, and it
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happened before and then gradually through the season it was
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just kind of not getting better getting worse, and it
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was always something that we were monitoring and just you know,
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seeing how it is what works. And the brace was
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just really annoying to wrestle with. So after a while,
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I was just like, you know, I can't wrestle with
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this thing anymore. Like it's just it was huge, bulky,
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really hot, like it's made out of that material, like
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like almost like a wetsuit material. Yeah, so it just
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feels like it's like smothering you. So there was a
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point where like it was a I don't remember after
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what match it was, but I was just like, you guys,
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gotta get this thing off me, like I can't wear anymore.
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It's killing me. Like. So, yeah, it was just something
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we were monitoring for a while, and then it just
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got to a point where it was just it wasn't
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really sustainable long term and it was just better to
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get it fixed.
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Okay, And I know recovery is a big thing for you.
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I don't know what the plan is yet, but do
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you think freestyle here and all the summer or you
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just kind of just focus on recovery.
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if during my red shirt I did a lot of
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freestyle with with Jamil Trent and that was something that
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I really had a good time doing last year. I
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hope I can. I can get into some, but I
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think right now the goal is just you know, next season,
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you know, That's That's what I'm looking forward to right now.
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Just trying to keep my head straight and take it
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one day at a time.
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Going up to Virginia Tech for this weekend's ACCEDS.
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wouldn't miss it.
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Yeah, ah, great segue there. But I know you got
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your brackets out when you were competing. What type of
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guy where you did you like to look at your
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bracket or did you not care and just went out
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there and to wrestle.
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So usually I'd have like a pretty decent idea because
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when I had did it. Stanford wasn't last time I
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was there, Stanford wasn't in the ACC yet, So the
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one in the two seeds would get buys. So you
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would wrestle in the semis. So I'd usually have a
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good idea who I was wrestling. It wasn't something I
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usually had to look at too much. I think that
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both the years I was there, I was the two
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seed and Henson was the one seed. Ye, and then
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my freshman year I wrestled the Virginia guy in the
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summis and then my sophomore wrestled the UNC guy in
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the summers. But well, yeah, usually I'm not a huge
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bracket guy. Like I like to know roughly where I'm at,
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but I usually don't analyze anything too crazy. If anything,
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I look at the other brackets yep, you know, more
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as like a just like a fan of like wrestling,
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instead of just look at the other brackets to see
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what's going to go.
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And this is kind of unique, Like you said, uh,
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first and second, you used to get a buy. Now
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just the number one gets a buy. How tough was
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it because you went there you had to weigh in
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two hours before the start, But just because the start.
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The semi finals were another two hours, so you kind
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of had four to five hours.
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How tough of a weight is that?
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you get that buye, you have a lot of time
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after you're weighing, so you can put more into your
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body than you would for normal two hours. But it's
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also being able to manage how much you're going to
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put in, because if you put too much in, then
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you're gonna be really sluggish. So you almost want to
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treat it as if you're going to wrestle in that
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first round, like, Okay, I'm gonna get myself ready, put
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some stuff in, refeel feel good. Then maybe at that
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two hour mark, you move around, you get your warm wepon,
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just start to feel good. But also if you're a
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guy that has that first round and you get a
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match in before the guy you're wrestling, I feel like
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you're you're more prepared going into that match. So if
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you're the guy getting the buy you gotta make sure
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you get that hard warm and whether it's you know,
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you do a hard spa match, maybe maybe you do
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a tiny bit of live just to get your heart
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rate up. To some sprints, just almost like simulate like
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you had that match, because the other guy will be
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coming in, you know, pretty warmed up and pretty ready
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to go.
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Trent highly took some pride and dubbed it the Breakfast Club.
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you were the one of the two seed, then you
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got a big breakfast at the you know, the hotel,
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or they would get some sort of like pancake eggs,
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you know, potato breakfast. Yeah. I can't remember the exact
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name he called it, but yeah, it was the Breakfast Club.
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Yep, U NC State this year, three top seeds, so
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three guys will have a buye. We're gonna start here
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one twenty five. Vincent Robinson got the three seed, so
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he has the uv A Kid. I think Uva Kid
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is very athletic, just like n They didn't face each other,
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so I mean that's gonna be a huge match.
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And then if Vince wins, he has the two guys
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that he lost to Provo vent Tresca. So this is
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a bit of a rough tournament for Vince here. He's
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really gonna be challenged with these matches.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly, But I think when you get to
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the national tournament, that's what that's what's going to be
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like too. You know you're gonna be challenged. You're gonna
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have guys that maybe you've lost to or maybe you've
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had close matches with. So I think wrestle that now
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he beats the Stanford guy, he beats Virginia Tech. That
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guy gives him a lot of confidence going in the
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National tournament. And he's a guy that was there last year,
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wrestled in close matches with guys that were that were
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high level, you know, was able to win in the
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last couple of seconds, was able to win an ultimate rideout.
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So I think that that. I think he's a competitor.
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So I think whenever the whenever the time comes for
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him to really step up and do something, he's a
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guy that's going to do it.
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And I think when I asked you to do this,
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I was kind of thinking like you and Henson kind
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of comparable to him and Ventresco, where you lost a
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couple to Henson, then you finally got that win. So
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what does what does Vince have to do to get
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over that hump and beat that rival that he hasn't
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had a chance to.
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Yet right, And that's that's something I talked with him
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about briefly, was like, hey, man, I've been here, Like
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I know how this is. You wrestled him in the
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duel last year you lost. You wrestled him at ACC's.
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You know, you wrestled him in the duel this year.
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Like you're just and you just feel like you're just
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chipping away, chipping away, chipping away. It's getting closer and closer. Eventually,
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it's just about just seizing that opportunity. You know, you
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only get to wrestle them so many times. Like eventually
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it's like, Okay, I gotta take those risks. I gotta shoot,
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I gotta get in on his legs and take him down.
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I'm not gonna be able to win if I don't
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get take those so kind of pulling all that together
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into one match is hard, but it's like that's what
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it's going to take to beat like a guy that
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you've never beat before, and then once you get over
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that hump, that's just a huge confidence.
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I thought it was interesting this weight only got three allocations,
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but five guys are ranked. Kind of I ask you,
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Zach writing for the past to the three seed how
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was he coming in? He came in as a transfer.
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Sometimes it's hard to come into a new team, But
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how do you know, Zach, how was.
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He in the room this year?
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Very good? So we had him and Brophy come in
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and yeah, like talking with those guys like it's it's
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something that we really haven't done a whole lot of
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was having transfers in and wrestler. But these two guys
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have slay in very well. They're both really good teammates,
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they're both really good friends, and they have contributed a
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lot just overall to the team kind of culture and
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the way everybody interacts. So they've been doing really well.
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I mean he came out writing swinging in the summer,
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you know, in practice, wrestling really hard. He's a hard worker,
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hard hand fighter. So yeah, he's everything that we wanted.
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He has another tough matchup that kid from UVA, another
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very athletic kind of contrasting styles didn't face each other.
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pack UVA guys said, Ryan's got one too, about one
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forty one, but that's gonna be a great matchup. And
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then he has two guys that he could see that
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he fell to, so kind of the same situation as Vince,
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and like I said, very important because that weight only
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has three allocations.
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Yep, yeah, you know sometimes that's just the way the
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brackets work out, with the way that RPI works, like
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you need a certain amount of matches, need a certain
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amount of wins, win percentage, like all that stuff plays
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in the allocating those spots. That's why it's really important
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during the season to make sure everybody's locked in and
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you know, showing I'm making weight wrestling. But yeah, thirty
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three we had two guys, so kind of during the year,
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we're bouncing back and forth for yourself out and I
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believe we wrestled Troy against the UVA guy, so Redding
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hasn't faced him yet. But I think stylistically Redding's a
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really hard guy to take down. You know, you get
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to his legs and it's very hard to finish on him.
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He's a great scrambler, So I like how he looks here.
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Ryan Jack up at one forty one.
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Uh, you spent a lot of time with him last
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year because you guys were in the same boat. Red Shirt,
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he's got the three seed, those three guys at the
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top they all beat each other, so this is a
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very wide open weight.
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How he's a former ACC champion, just like yourself from
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two years ago.
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It took last year off, But how hard do you
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think it is to repeat in this conference?
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Yeah, you know he's had a wait too. That has
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some some new guys in it that that you know,
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he hasn't wrestled before first round. He's got a guy
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that beat him in the duel, so I think that's
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a good one for him to, you know, get back.
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That gives you momentum moving forward. So you're gonna have
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to wrestle guys that have beaten you. Like I said
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with Vince, You're gonna have to beat guys that beating
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you this year. That's just how it's gonna be. Same
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thing with RJ. You're gonna have to beat guys that
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beat you. You know, this is the a SEC tournament.
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This is for yourself. You're wrestling for your school ultimately,
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but you're wrestling for yourself as well. You know this
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postseason is it cumulatively is for the team, but individually
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you get to accomplish what you want. And I think
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RGIE is very hungry you know, this is his last year.
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to compete well. So I really like the way he's
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going into this ACC tournament.
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Mentally one nine.
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Someone that we've just seen kind of really shoot up
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the rankings here this year are Koy Biskins coming off
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a great win there against Cornell to close it out,
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a lot of momentum again, top three. They all kind
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of beat each other up a little bit this year.
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Choy comes in as the one season so he does
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have that buye. But just talk about the progression of
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Koy's career that you've seen here over the not even
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this past season, but even the summer leading up to
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this year.
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had kind of known a little bit when he was
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in high school. He wrestled with some of my friends
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in high school and he would win. He was just
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a guy that would go out and just crush people
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in high school. So I think coming into college it
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was about you know, finding that developing, developing, developing, And
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you know, last year, I don't think he got the
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result that he wanted, and I think over this summer
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he really just locked in. He focused, he got better
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what he needed to, he gained his confidence. You know,
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he works hard. He's just the full package, you know,
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wrestling wise. I mean, you've seen some of the crazy
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things he does to get out of takedowns. I've never
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seen some guys. A guy could have double up in
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the air, hands locked and Cloi will find a way
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to get out of it. He's just a guy that
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wrestles through, he wrestles hard. He really just has it all.
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So I'm super excited for him this year. Like I can't,
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I can't say it enough, how excited I am for
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him going into this postseason. I think he's going to
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do great.
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Have you been able to take him down in practice.
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When I was back?
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Yeah? Yeah, yeah, right, I was on that guy that
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was ye I'll say that he is a he's an
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athlete yep. And again like he uh, he could wrestle
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either the Stanford guy or the Virginia Tech guy. Yeah,
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you know this weekend, so I'd like to see both
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those matches. I think Koy he beat up the Stanford
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guy and then he dropped one to the Virginia Tech guy.
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But I think that's a match that Cooy gets back again.
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I think he gets by it pretty good. I think
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he's gonna do well one.
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Seven year wait of course, so you always have an
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eye on this, but I don't think he faced any
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of these guys. So he just kind of a weird
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weight class here. Someone we haven't talked about too much,
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filling in for you, Luca Felix, red shirt, freshman, Morgantown,
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West Virginia. We know he's taking some washes this year,
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but I think he competes. I mean, he's always out
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there competing in this matches. Just how tough was his
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situation to come into the line up here?
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Yeah, you know that is that is a tough situation
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because he's a guy that he is a competitor. He
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wrestles hard, like he's not going to go out and
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and you know he's gonna give one hundred percent after
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every time. He's a guy that's gonna wrestle really hard.
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You know, he was he was behind me and then
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after my situation and then Daniel Zepeda gets hurt as well,
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and the coaches are like, all right, somebody needs to
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step up. And he was the guy that you know
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was there and was like I'm here, you know, like
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what are you guys gonna do? I'm here, like I
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want the spot. That's me. So he's been doing a
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great job developing and you know, just stepping up to
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that spot because he is in a tough spot, you know,
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having to fill in. So but he he's wrestling like
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he's not a filling like, he's wrestling like he is
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the guy. So that's what we want to see. And
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I think he's gonna think he's gonna do well. He's
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got the first one against Dylan Evans. I think he's
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gonna get that one back and we'll go from there.
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I think he's looking good.
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Little undersize too. I don't know if he's a true
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one fifty.
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Seven right, And that's another thing. It's like, all right, man,
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like we know, we know, like you might be a
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forty nine, like if you want it to be, so,
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like what are you gonna do? And that's what he's
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He's lifting hard, he works hard. I think, you know,
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under the rices circumstances, he's a guy that's gonna do
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really well, you know in the future.
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One sixty five true freshman Will Denny went undefeated, has
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the top seed.
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I thought it was great. I had wheeled on the
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podcast earlier.
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He said, you beat the living crap out of him
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for a long time over the summer, but he's like,
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I needed that when I came to college. I needed
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to be humbled and get that. And he really thanked
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you a lot for the effort.
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But maybe not at the time, I'm sure, of course.
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Yeah, yeah, but talk about what you've seen from him.
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I mean, he's really been someone we knew he was
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gonna be good when he's coming in, but maybe not
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as a true freshman.
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Yeah, you know, he's I was in. I compared and
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I talked with him a lot. We were kind of
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in similar situations like coming into NC State. You know,
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I came in my freshman year and Treek Wilson had
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just graduated, and it was like forty nine's kind of
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an open spot, like we want you to be the guy,
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Like we want like I work hard, and like you're
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gonna be the guy and I think you could do
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really well. And he was in a similar situation. Derek
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Fields graduates last year. Sixty five is a spot where
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it's like and it's up for grabs, you know who's
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going to step up and do it? And he was
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a guy that competed really hard in high school and
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he just kept building and building and building. And then
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this summer. Yeah, like I said, I wrestled with him
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a lot, and before he got to college, I would
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wrestle with him a little bit. But just his progression
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that he's gradually kind of put on through to now,
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it has just been incredible. He's just been jumping levels,
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jumping levels a week by week, and I'm super excited
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for him. He's a guy he competes hard, he wrestles hard.
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You know, he works hard, he does everything right. So
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he's just he's the staple of kind of NC State
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and the culture that we have here.
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How tough do you think it is? If you're the
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number one seed, undefeated, everybody's gunning for you.
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Yeah, like you have that target on your back. But
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the thing for Will is he's also a true freshman.
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He's out to, you know, show people who he is.
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You know, he's out there going, Okay, yeah, you know,
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I am the number one seed, but I'm gonna go
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out and wrestle like I'm not like I'm gonna wrestle
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like I'm hunting. I'm still hunting for everybody. So he's
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out to prove.
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Something, so I think that one's a little interesting. Virginia
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Tech made a change late the Stanford kid bumped up
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about two weight classes, so one sixty five. It's gonna
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be interesting to see how that one plays out.
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Yeah. Yeah, they they were wrestling Burton and then they
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went with Mac Church, who wrestled last year. He was
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a national qualifier last year, I believe, right, yep, So yeah,
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it'd be interesting, don't I don't think Will did not
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wrestle him this year. He wrestled Burton twice. I think,
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got national duels and the duel meet and they were
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one in one with each other, and I think I
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think they're red shirting Burton, so they're gonna go with Church.
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But yeah, yeah, I really like I like Will Denny
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where he's at, and I think he's gonna do really well.
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One person from your recruiting class, Maddy Singleton at one
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seventy four. Another way, it only got three allocations and
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there's five guys rank, so that's gonna be competitive. He
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really turned it on March last year, won the a
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SEC title, went on All American. We've seen him perform
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all year. What do you think of Maddie going into
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the postseason this year.
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Yeah, kind of similar to Vince. Maddy is a competitor.
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Last year, I think we saw him take some losses
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earlier in the year. He lost to Luke Augustine last
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year in the season and ended up beating him at
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the ACCS and that's kind of this year. He lost
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to Luca again in the dual meet, and I think
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if history repeats hisself, I think he's gonna beat him
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again in the ACCS because that's just how mad he is.
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He's a competitor, you know, when he needs to step
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up and get it done, that's what he does. And
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I think we have a lot of guys like that,
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Vince being another one, Coroy being another one. Will Like
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those are guys that are competitors. When they compete, they're
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gonna compete hard and they're gonna get give it everything.
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So yeah, and then he didn't wrestle the Duke kid,
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I believe during the dual meet, So that'll be a
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good Simmons. I have to think Mattie's looking really good
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in the room. He has a lot of confidence, so
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I'm excited for him.
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One eighty four.
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Don Kate's final year, came back to the program after
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two years away. Really has filled a need there for
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one eighty four for you guys, But kind of when
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he came back, what did you guys think? It's like,
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this guy was away for the program for two years.
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How's he going to hold up? How's he going to contribute?
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How did as the season went on? What did you
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see from Kate's here?
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Yeah? You know, Don was here in my freshman year
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and he left after my freshman year, and he was
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gone my sophomore junior year, and this year one eighty four,
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it's like, hey man, we we kind of got a
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hold here, like and he's like, yeah, I'm there, I'll
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do it. So he comes back happy, he's happy to
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be here. And that's the that's the thing that I
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really like about Donas he's he's there, he's here for
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the team as well. You know, it's like he's here
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for himself, but he's also doing it for the team.
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You know, we're all we're all friends with Don. I've
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known Don for a while since I got here. He's
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a great guy everybody. And when you see that at
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the Cornell duel as well, it's like, Don, we need
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you to lock in here, like you can't give up
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a certain amount of points or else the team loses.
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And once he do, he gets the job done and
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he able to save the duel for us. And that's
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just the kind of guy Don is. He's a he's
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a team player. He's a guy that you know, if
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you ask something form, he's going to do it. So
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but yeah, I've been really happy with him coming back.
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I think for taking that much time off and being
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thrust right back into Division one wrestling is just incredible.
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I don't think there's a lot of people that can
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do that.
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I think he's happy at eighty four. He was not
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happy at sixty five, so I think that.
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Yeah, true too.
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That's another thing too, It's like, yeah, he's not making
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one sixty five, so yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's that
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makes him happy.
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Uh up till one eighty seven. You kind of mentioned him, Brophy.
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It's gonna be competing at the ACCS for the first time.
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There's three guys ranked eleventh or better. They got the
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three allocations. Brophy's right on that next line. That's a
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very tough wait there. But he also joined you guys
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kind of mid season. I mean we're just seeing some
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unique circumstances this year. But can you talk about what
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he's kind of gone through to He trained with you
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guys a little bit in the fall.
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Semester, but was not able to compete.
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What do you think it took for him to be
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here at NC State now competing after missing the first semester.
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Yeah, that's he's in especially a tough spot because he's
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coming from somewhere where he wasn't able to train like that.
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He wasn't able to be in a college room consistently
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and be here every day like he would come and
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train with us sometimes. But I mean that was just
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the fact that, like his situation was just that he
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wasn't able to be here the whole time. But then
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he gets here and he's like the new guy on
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the team as well, you know, but he's a guy
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that liked writing. They came and fit right in. You know.
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He's a great guy. Brophy's great funny and he really
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kind of slid right into that one ninety seven spot
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that we needed. He's been wrestling hard. I think when
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he got here, I think he kind of took like
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a bump or two through like that first couple of
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weeks he was here, but I think he's really kind
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of bounced back, just like realizing that, hey man, we
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brought you here for a reason. We didn't bring you
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here to start throwing out crazy moves and like doing
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stuff you've never done before, Like we want the Patrick
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Brophy that we watched two years ago, year ago, Like
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that's the brophy that we want to do what you do,
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and we're gonna be here. We'll help you, we'll steer
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you in the right direction. And I think ever since then,
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he's been doing a great job his wres. Guy wrestles hard.
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You know, he's a great gas tank. He wrestles hard.
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I mean, if you watch his opponents when they wrestled
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him in the second period, they're gased, they're tired every
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time he wrestles. So but yeah, he's been great.
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You were one of the guys he thanked for always
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staying in the room afterwards and just kind of showing
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some basis because the kid didn't start wrestling until he
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was in high so he's very appreciative of you guys
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staying late and kind of showing them a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, and yeah, that's the thing is like the
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jumps he's made since then. It's crazy, Like most guys
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that are in Division one wrestling start wrestling when they're
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like toddlers and they're like children. But like there's some
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guys out there that are able to they start later
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and they're able to get to this point. It's just
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it's impressive.
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Last weight heavyweight Isaac Trumbull, all us Wolfpack fans were
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all hoping that he doesn't come out with another big
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knee brace like you did last year.
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So uh but uh, you know, he went undefeated.
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He's there's some decent guys up at heavyweight, but he
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kind of stood he's in that tier above. I believe
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what kind of motivation it is for you guys to
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go out when he's out there, watching him get bonus
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points and helping this team, and how important is he
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in this lineup?
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Yeah? I mean we've seen it multiple times this year
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where the match comes down at heavyweight and it's like, Isaac,
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we need you man, like we did like we need
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bonus here, we need a pin here, we need you
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to win this match like and he steps up time
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and time again, and I think that's just like speaks
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a lot about Isaac he's he's a competitor. He's a
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guy that's going to go out. He's going to get
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the job done consistently. You know, he wrestles hard. He
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wasn't able to wrestle the first little bit of the
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season and came back. Hasn't skipped the beat. You know,
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he's been wrestling hard ever since. Beat the Pitt guy,
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he beat uv a like he's beat all these guys.
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And yeah, he's right there, and I think he's a
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serious national title contender as with some of our other
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guys as well.
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What uh, he's everybody's favorite for his celebration afterwards, But
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what kind of what kind of teammate is here?
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How's he in the room?
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He's a great guy, Isaac. He's he's a guy you know,
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if you ask anything on him, he's going to help you.
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Great teammate, motivator, you know, he he does care about
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this team and he wants everybody to do well. You know,
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he's a guy that's a practice trying to help different guys,
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and so yeah, he's a good, great teammate.
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This was a cool breakdown. You gave a different perspective.
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I appreciate good and all that, but I had to
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ask you before we get you out here, prediction what
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team this year will win the ACC Championship.
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US I believe is gonna win it. Of course I
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would not even if I didn't think so, I would
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say it anyway. But I truly believe like we have
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a special team this year. We have a lot of
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guys that are serious national title contenders. I think this
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is a year where guys have really broken out some
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guys and really separated themselves above other years, and I
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think like this is this is a great year for US.
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A lot of guys have huge opportunities. So I'm super
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excited about it.
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So we're recording this on a Wednesday. The championships are
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on Sunday. Kind of walk us through, maybe not day
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by day, but how is this team preparing? What is
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going on these final few days before the accs.
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Yeah, right now, guys are you know, keeping their waiting check,
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making sure they're recovered, they're hitting recovery centers. Are just
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kind of fine tuning the last few things. You know,
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your technique is set for the season. You know, at
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this point you could fix a little bit of things
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and fine tune some different positions, but you know, right now,
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everybody's just getting themselves in the right headspace, whether yeah,
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that's getting a little bit more recovery in, or maybe
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it's getting some extra practices in, but everybody's just kind
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of getting themselves ready for the end of the season
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and just trying to put them because everybody has a
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different path and everybody has a different track on what
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they need to do in order to feel like they're ready.
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So one guy might need to get an extra practice in,
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one guy might need to do some more cardio, one
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guy might need to take the day off, you know
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and just recover. So the coach will do a good
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job of managing that, and the guys do a good
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job of managing themselves too. So yeah, the next few
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days will just be about keeping your wait in check
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and just getting yourself ready mentally.
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I'm excited. I hope you're excited. I know you're excited
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for it. Sadly, like I said, like I said, it
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sucks that you have to watch it from the stands,
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but we know you'll be back in a couple of years,
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and this team's going to be fun to watch here
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in the postseason. At ACC's got NCAA's got a lot
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of guys that can really finish up high here coming
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on agree. I agree, so Jackson, thanks for joining us.
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This is another episode of Pack Mentality Poppins podcast covering
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NC state wrestling. Until next time, God Wolf Pack
