Amanda Todd

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Hey, y 'all. I'm Mandy. I'm Keri. And this is
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Monstrous. All right. Episode three. You ready?
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Ready. Listener discretion is advised. There
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is a trigger warning. for suicide, stalking,
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and sexual extortion. Which sexual extortion
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is also sextortion. So it's extortion, but has
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a sexual element to it for anyone that does not
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know. Right. So I do want to recommend this episode
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for teens and young adults. Although we do have
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a trigger warning and a listener discretion.
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I believe this topic is very important for this
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age group, and I believe that they should be
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aware of it so that they themselves can ask for
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help if they're struggling or need someone to
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step in and help if they're going through the
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same thing like the victim in this case. According
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to statistics, Canada reported nearly one in
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five Internet users aged 5 to 29 have either
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been cyber bullied or cyber stalked. Wow. A survey
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done by Pew Research Center between April and
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May of 2020 said 46 % of teens reported that
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at least one type of cyberbullying had been experienced.
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Now, in 2024, these numbers have grown to be
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even worse. Over 60 % of children and 40 % of
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adults have at some point been a target of cyberbullies.
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So today, I'm going to tell you about one of
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these stories. The case for today is Amanda Todd.
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It is a story of how one choice made by a very
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young girl in the wake of the internet turned
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into not only cyberbullying, but also real -life
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bullying, physical assaults, extortion, and ultimately
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suicide. I had several sources that used, and
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those will be listed in the description. as normal.
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But most of my information I got from Amanda's
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website that was founded by her mom. And that
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is AmandaToddLegacy .com. So Amanda was born
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on November 27th, 1996. She was almost 10 days
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past her due date. She was born in Vancouver,
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British Columbia. That year, they got a ton of
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snow. And as she grew up, she was more and more
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captivated with it. Which as a kid, myself, and
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I'm sure you were growing up in the South. On
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the East Coast, we didn't get much snow. So when
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we got it, we loved it. Right. According to Amanda's
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website, before her birthday every year, she
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would watch the TV for a weather watch looking
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for snow in the forecast. To me, it shows how
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just sweet and innocent she was. Something my
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kids every year do, even though we get snow and
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a ton of it every single winter. It's always,
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when is it going to snow? Hopefully never. Most
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definitely. From Amanda's website, you're able
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to learn a bit more about Amanda. She was passionate
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about singing, art. She loved animals. She loved
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doing acts of kindness. And her favorite color
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was purple. At the age of 15, her mom, Carol,
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gave Amanda her nickname, which was Princess
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Snowflake. I know. So cute. Love it. That is
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true. The most adorable little nickname ever.
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So her website says that her mom called her this
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because she was a typical teenage girl. She wanted
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everything that she's seen on TV that was advertised
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in magazines or on billboards. But because she
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was born in the winter, the nickname was perfect.
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Also on the website, her mom had recanted the
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conversation that she had had with Amanda about
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the nickname. And it's just absolutely adorable.
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I want to say this conversation, to me, says
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so much about who Amanda was. Because how many
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teenagers like their nicknames? Right. Like,
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I loved what my Aunt Debbie, my Mama, and Papa
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all called me. I liked those. The rest of them,
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I couldn't stand. All right. So, I'm going to
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put the trigger warning for suicide, self -harm,
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bullying, and sexual blackmail here. Because
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now that we know a little bit about Amanda. We're
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going to jump ahead to what leads Amanda to taking
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her own life. This is a story that captivated
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headlines and brought to light an issue that
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has been around since the early 2000s. It began
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in 2010 when Amanda was 12 years old and only
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beginning 7th grade. Like most kids her age,
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she was online meeting new people and chatting.
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She was born two years after I was. I remember
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when AOL chat rooms and MySpace and really the
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internet became a huge deal. Like, you know,
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every day after school, you're setting up and
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hooking up to your dial up. So that way you can
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get on your AOL chat rooms and talk to your quote
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unquote friends, you know? Yeah. It was a huge
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deal for kids our age at that time. And I'm sure
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you remember it. Yeah, I do. It was a big deal.
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It was like the coolest thing in the world. And
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none of us were aware of the dangers that came
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with it. I don't even think parents knew what
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dangers came with it at that point in time. I
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don't think so either because it was so new.
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Yeah. And you don't imagine someone getting on
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the Internet and doing something like this or
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anything similar. Right. Nowadays, it's normal.
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But back then, it just wasn't thought of. Mm
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-hmm. So while in a webcam chat room with more
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than 150 other people, an unidentified man convinced
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Amanda to show her boobs. When she did this,
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someone within the room decided to screenshot
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the image. They then posted the image on a porn
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site. Oh, God. And if that's not. Bad enough,
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that image, along with the link to the site,
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was then sent to all of Amanda's Facebook friends.
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So this one act, something that so many teenagers
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do around the world every day, turned Amanda's
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life completely upside down. For this one action,
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Amanda was constantly receiving threats and hate
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comments in person as well as online. She was
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bullied. teased and beaten up by other teens
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she was around every single day so sad christmas
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eve of 2010 carol todd received an anonymous
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facebook message telling her that her daughter
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had become a victim of blackmail and police showed
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up at amanda's home at 4 a .m confirming to her
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and showing her that the photo had been sent
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out to everyone from there the spring of 2011
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rolls around and a man contacts amanda on facebook
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And tells her that he's going to post the pictures
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online unless she, quote, puts on a show for
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him. Now remember, she was 12 when all of this
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started. That's insane. And this is going on
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nearly a year later. So she is about 13 at this
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point. That's two years older than my oldest
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son. She's a baby. Yeah. So Amanda moved towns
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and schools several times, trying to get away
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from it. But no matter where she went, the pictures
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haunted her. And the bullying just never seemed
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to end. Because of the online activity and what
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she was facing every day in her real world, Amanda
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began to struggle with depression and anxiety.
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When they both worsened, she began to experiment
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with drugs and alcohol and eventually self -harm
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to ease her pain. In the fall of 2011, staff
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members at Amanda's newest school were sent a
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topless photo of Amanda. Thankfully, these school
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staff members did contact the police. Ten months
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later, she received yet another blackmail threat
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through her social media. The bullying at school
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was nowhere near getting better. It got worse.
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One day at school, a girl threw her to the ground
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and then punched her several times in front of
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the entire school after the girl's boyfriend
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had led Amanda on and made her believe that he
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liked her, leading Amanda to hook up with him.
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What the hell is wrong with people? Yeah. It's
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just a bunch of teenagers. And it's like, kids
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will be kids. Teenagers will be teenagers. But
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this is a whole nother level. Right. It's just
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cruel. Just tormenting her for something that
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I can guarantee most of these other kids did.
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Right. She made a mistake. The only difference
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is, is hers was out there for everyone to see.
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Right. Teenagers do dumb things and she, she
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was a kid. She didn't know any better. She made
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a mistake. You know, don't, you don't need to
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torment them and make their life a living hell.
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Like it had nothing to do with you to begin with.
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Right. It's awful. So after this, Amanda went
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home and she drank bleach in an attempt to end
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her life. Oh, wow. Thankfully, though, she was
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found and she was rushed to a hospital where
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they were able to save her. But the torment didn't
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end there. And this just gave her bullies another
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reason to ridicule her. On September 7th of 2012,
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Amanda took to her YouTube channel. She posted
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a nine -minute video entitled, My Story, Struggling,
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Bullying, Suicide, and Self -Harm. I'm going
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to put this link in the description for anyone
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that wants to watch it. But I do want to warn
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everyone that it is hard to read everything that
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she has to say. can clearly see the sadness on
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her face throughout the entire video. In this
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video, she tells her story and her experience
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with bullying on flashcards. In it, she talks
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about how she drank the bleach trying to take
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her life, how she moved away to live with her
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mom. But even six months after the incident,
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they still wouldn't leave her alone. They were
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posting photos of bleach and ditches and tagging
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her in them. These horrible kids said she should
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try a different type of bleach. That they hoped
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she died this time and wasn't so stupid. They
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hoped that she would see it and kill herself.
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And all of these were coming from kids that she
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no longer went to school with. In a town that
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she no longer lived in. Wow. So these kids are
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just actively watching her social media, actively
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harassing her. She doesn't live there. She doesn't
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go to school with them anymore. But they're still
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continuing. For what purpose? I have no idea.
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Just cruel. Just, I don't know, give them entertainment
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or something. I'm not really sure what the thought
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process with that whole thing was. I can't wrap
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my head around it in any way. Like you shouldn't
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bully or harass anyone. But the girl moved away.
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Right. Why do you need to continue? It just makes
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no sense to me. So after this, she began counseling.
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She was put on antidepressants, but it doesn't
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appear to have helped because of the horrible
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people that were harassing and bullying her constantly.
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Her struggles continued. In the summer of 2012,
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she overdosed and was hospitalized for two days.
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And she tells this whole entire story within
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her video. which I'm going to send you now to
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watch. On the video, there is a warning when
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you go to watch it. It lets you know that it
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contains content that regards suicide or self
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-harm topics. So everyone knows there is a warning
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on that video as well. All right, I just sent
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it to your Facebook, Amanda. Oh, she's such a
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cute little girl. Oh, she's beautiful. And she's
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just smiling. She got into drugs and alcohol.
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All in an effort to just make her pain go away.
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Poor girl. Like hearing the story is one thing,
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but then you actually watch her video and it
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just absolutely breaks your heart. I know. She
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said she started cutting. It's just heart -wrenching,
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especially with how young she is. It just makes
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it so much worse. I know. She's crying. The whole
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thing is hard to watch, but I think whenever
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she starts to get emotional is when it really...
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Yeah. She took the blame for it. She said it
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was all her fault because she didn't want him
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to get in trouble. Yep. That just says so much
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about who she would rather take the blame and
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everything get worse for her and him have any
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kind of repercussions for his behavior. God,
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they were so mean to her. Oh, yeah. Like saying.
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that these kids were just a giant group of assholes
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doesn't even begin to cover how awful they were
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to her. They should all be charged. Oh yeah,
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I thought the same thing. Because if they wouldn't
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have done what they did, she wouldn't have taken
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her home. Because it was just no relenting. They
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just would not stop. And she was just a kid.
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And her parents tried to help her. They did what
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they were supposed to do. But they also didn't
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know how bad things were. Wow. Oh, she showed
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pictures of her cutting her hair. Wow. That was
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sad. Yeah, her parents, I know telling it, it
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doesn't really talk about them, but they tried.
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They put her in counseling. They put her on medication.
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They did right. They did what they were supposed
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to do. They tried to help her, but they didn't
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know how bad things were until after. Whenever
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they began to go through her social media, began
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to look through her devices, and they found everything.
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So that's why I said this case is one that I
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feel teenagers and young adults do need to learn
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about. Because if you don't ask for help, if
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you're not saying this is exactly what's going
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on, then you're not going to get the help that
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you truly need. So in the video, she has written
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on a couple cards. She states, quote, I felt
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like a joke in this world. I thought nobody deserves
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this. End quote. Every day, I think, why am I
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still here? Things that no child at her age should
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ever feel like or should ever think. And I have
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to say, when I watched the video and I read those
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two cards specifically, all I wanted to do was
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just hug her. Mm -hmm. Like, it just broke my
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heart. So, a month after this video was posted,
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on October 10th, 2012, Amanda took her own life
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inside her Port Coquitlam home. I might have
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said that wrong. Nine days later, hundreds of
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people had heard Amanda's story. And they had
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gathered in more than 40 different cities to
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light a candle in her remembrance. Oh, wow. On
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November 8th, 2012, More than 600 people gathered
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at the Red Robinson Show Theater in the town
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that she lived in for a ceremony. And during
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the ceremony, I believe her mother had said it
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best about what her daughter had left behind.
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Quote, a larger than life message has sparked
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the world. and has made it open its eyes, its
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ears, and its hearts. In July of 2013, two of
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the schools that Amanda had attended raised money
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to have a bench dedicated in her memory inside
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Settlers Park. On November 20th of that same
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year, a federal anti -cyberbullying bill was
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introduced. And this bill makes it a criminal
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offense to distribute sexually explicit images
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online without a person's consent. So even though
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Amanda's story is tragic and it was a loss for
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her family, one that they will probably never
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be able to recover from, in the end, Amanda's
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story is the story that gave way to the creation
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to the federal anti -cyberbullying law. She left.
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A legacy that people everywhere, all over the
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country, benefit from every single day. Right.
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Cyberbullying is an ongoing issue, and I honestly
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don't see it coming to an end anytime soon. Because
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even though many see this as an issue, the world
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as a whole does not see it as one. It's easy
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to get behind a computer screen. to fake a name,
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and in most cases, those that do exactly what
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was done to Amanda suffered no consequences for
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their actions. Because a lot of times, the perpetrator
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is not within the same country as the victim.
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However, this was not the case in Amanda's story.
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The man that started the downfall of Amanda's
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life was identified as 38 -year -old Dutch citizen
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Aiden Coben. What? Yep. They were able to track
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his IP address and find out who he was. On April
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17, 2014, the RCMP announced charges against
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him in her case. He faced 72 different charges,
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which included storing child pornography, extortion,
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fraud, making an extri... and distributing of
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child pornography, internet luring, and possession
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of hard drugs. Good. In his trial, it was revealed
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that Amanda was not his only victim, and some
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of his victims had been abused by him for years.
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In 2017, Coben was convicted and sentenced to
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11 years in a Dutch prison for fraud and the
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blackmail cases, which involved many young girls
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and gay men. Amanda's story has exposed an ongoing
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issue within the social media world. It made
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people realize the effects of bullying and how
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one mean comment or post could cause someone
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to do the unthinkable. As a society, we continue
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to share... As society, we continue to share
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stories like Amanda's in order to spread awareness
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and prevent the horrific outcomes of cyberbullying,
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cyberstalking, bullying, and sextortion. I want
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to leave everyone with this. If there's one thing
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that you take away from Amanda's tragic story,
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it is to remember that your words are powerful.
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And even though we underestimate how much words
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can truly mean, We must treat people around us
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with respect because we don't know what someone
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else is going through or what they're struggling
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with silently. Nobody deserves what Amanda went
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through. And as one, we must do everything that
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we can to ensure her tragic story is never repeated.
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Inside the description, along with all of my
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sources, I have Amanda's YouTube video, her legacy
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page, and a list of documentaries that have been
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made about Amanda's story. Lastly, I've linked
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a website to help anyone in need in any situation,
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be it suicide, domestic violence, or sexual assault.
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The helplines on this site are able to help with
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a range of mental health and emotional struggles.
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When you get to the main landing page on this
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link, you simply select your country, select
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what it is you need help with, and the site will
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give you details on how to contact either by
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phone, email, or text with one or multiple helplines.
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It's a sad story. Yes, it was. I don't know.
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It was one of those, it was more hard to do because
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I'm a mom myself, you know what I mean? Right.
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This was the same time and era that I grew up
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in. Mm -hmm. So it was hard to see that, you
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know, she's two years younger than I myself am.
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I was a senior. I was graduating high school
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when all of this was going on in her life. Right.
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So to know that made it pretty difficult to write
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it and get through it. You know what I mean?
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Well, and then look at that. We've got boys that
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play games where they get to talk to people.
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And they're grown people. And I've heard how
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when my daughter plays the games, how some of
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these people that are grown, talk to these little
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kids oh yeah like the names that they say and
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then the stuff they say and you find out that
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they're adults that are our age or older the
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way they talk to these little kids yep logan
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he'll um because we've had we've had this discussion
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with both of them but especially him because
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he's getting close to the age that amanda was
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at at the time that everything happened with
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her and So we've talked with them, but not in
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like this explicit detail. You know what I mean?
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Right. So him, if they're playing the game and
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there's somebody talking like they shouldn't
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be, he kicks them out of their server. Yeah.
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Yep. Just is like, nope. Or if they're being
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mean or hateful or saying things to either him
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or Dax that they shouldn't be, he kicks them
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out. It's like, nope, we're not doing that. Yeah.
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It's crazy how they talk on there. Bryson was
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on the game the other night, and there was a
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little girl that was in there with him on Roblox.
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And somebody was being mean, and he got him out
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of there to another little girl that was on the
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game. Like, it's crazy. It's awful. And most
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of the time, it's the adults behaving that way.
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It's not the other kids. It's the grown adults.
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It's the older teenagers. You know, I get you're
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grown, you're allowed to talk that way. But at
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the same time, you have to be aware and conscious
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of the fact that there are children that play
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these games as well. And in my head, if you can't
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speak and act appropriately when you're playing
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online with other kids, then maybe you shouldn't
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be playing at all. Yeah. But that's the thing.
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People get behind a keyboard. Mm hmm. Yep. They
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say stuff that they wouldn't say. In real life.
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Yep. That's exactly how it goes. And there's
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a lot of people that's been bullying and has
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committed suicide because of cyberbullying. There's
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a lot of cases out there with it that's happened.
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There's a girl that's going viral. Her mom's
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going viral right now because her daughter was
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cyberbullied on TikTok. A lot of people are like,
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oh, it's not that bad. You don't know how bad
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it was. Like in Amanda's case, that's where it
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did start. It did start online. But then it bled
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into her real everyday life. And those kids are
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the ones that they just wouldn't stop. They wouldn't
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leave her alone. And it kept getting worse and
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worse so bad that she was physically assaulted.
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Right. Yep. And I think everybody should be charged.
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Oh, yeah. There should be some kind of consequence
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for it. Because I believe that, you know, because
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she was a kid, she didn't know what else to do.
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She made a mistake. Everybody makes mistakes.
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Exactly. And you just, you won't let her live
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it down. She moves to a different town, moves
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to a different school, and you're still harassing
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her. You're still doing the same things. Not
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only that, you don't know what someone's dealing
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with in their own personal lives. You don't know
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how their home life is. You could be making it
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worse. That's why I always tell Bryson, it doesn't
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matter what somebody wears, what somebody looks
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like. You don't know where they come from, what's
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going on at home. The kid that sits at lunch
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by themselves or sits on the bus by themselves
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or something, just you smiling at them or waving
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to them or saying hi might make them have the
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best day ever. Exactly. And I've told both my
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boys that I don't condone fighting simply to
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fight. Somebody says something to you, they say
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something to you. You don't have to stay in there
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and listen to a single word that they say. You
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walk off. Right. But if someone puts their hands
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on you, you defend yourself. If there is someone
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being bullied or someone that is not able to
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defend themselves, you step in and you defend
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them. I don't care what anybody else says. Yep.
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Because someone has to defend that kid. And if
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adults aren't going to do it, then you need to
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step up and do it. Yep. Exactly. So, oh, man,
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that was a little bit of a rough one. But I felt
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like it was a topic that needed to be discussed,
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needed to be brought back up. Especially with,
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you know, now kids have the online games and,
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you know, there's TikTok now and all that other
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stuff. I agree. I feel like it's definitely something.
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And then, you know, the newer generation are
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more into all the internet stuff than, you know,
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we are, obviously. Well, everything's on your
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phones now or on PlayStation. Or all that stuff.
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Yep. So I felt like it was one. It was rough.
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The topic is pretty hard, but I felt like it
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was important. Yeah. That was good. And that
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is the story and legacy of Amanda Todd. Bye,
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y 'all. Bye, y 'all. Watch for monsters. And
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don't kill people.