1st Hour Stan Deyo, 2nd Hour Ronald Mallett Saturday January 17th 2026

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From the yals Art Food Hills in northeast Arkansas. I'm
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Carl Richardson and this is Midnight Frequency Radio. Our first
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guest this evening is Standio. Mister Dio is a UFO
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researcher on propulsion systems. He has held above top secret
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security clearance and worked undercover for the FBI. He was
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part of an exclusive black project headed by doctor Edward Taylor,
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specializing in the development of flying saucer technology. He was
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born in Clifton, Texas, and spent his first two years
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in nearby Valley Mills with his grandparents until his father
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returned from the Middle East. Stan spent most of his
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youth in Dallas, where while at JF. Kimball High School,
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he was a member of the National Honor Society, Captain
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of the Rifle Team, an Lieutenant Colonel in the NDCCROTC.
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He was a recipient of the Sons of American Revolution
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Medal in honored as one of the most outstanding mass students.
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Graduating high school just three months after his sixteenth birthday,
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he was awarded a partial engineering scholarship to the University
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of Texas and was given a full Congressional appointment scholarship
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to the US Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs. He
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was the only fourth Class cadet to receive written permission
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from General Curtis E. LeMay, head of SACK at the time,
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to drink coffee and sit at ease during meals, which
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was not the norm for the fourth class cadets. Upon
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returning to Dallas from the US Air Force Academy, stand
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trained in computer programming, systems, analysis and operations at IBM.
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Shortly thereafter, he formed his own Mission Impossible team, solving
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extremely sensitive, difficult corporate and computer problems. Stan's main love
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is still advanced propulsion and free energy research, which took
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him to Australia in nineteen seventy one to work on
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these systems as part of a global project under the
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direction of such men as doctor Edward Teller and doctor
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Andre Sakarov. Stan's scientific approach is backed by extensive research.
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He is not motivated to make a quick book, nor
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is he trying to sell anything other than his books
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that are treasured by those who have them. He feels
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obligated to let the public know both what he sees
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from a scientific perspective as well as from biblical Research.
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Good evening, mister Dio, and welcome to my night frequency radio.
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Good evening, car. I'm kind of reminiscing here my first
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time on radio with Art Belt in nineteen ninety five,
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in December, I think it was. It's been a long time.
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Wish sure miss him on our end, and the family
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does too. They were here over the Christmas holidays and
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we had some memorial candles printed up with his picture
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and you know, date of birth and his day was
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passing for Christmas gifts for the family.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm missing. We had a lot of interesting
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discussions on air and off air. He was quite a character.
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He definitely had the knack for radio, that's for sure.
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I'm not that great at it, but I kind of
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wanted to do it as a remembrance to him. So
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that's the purpose of this show. And I bring guests
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on and let the guests, you know, give stuff in
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their side of the story, and let the public listeners
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make their own decisions.
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Yeah, well, you and I both know what a wonderful
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guy was.
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Oh yes, sir, Well what would you like to Oh yes, yes,
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where would you like to start this evening?
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Well? Up roast my topics to discuss I guess right
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now is UFO disclosure at the government level, and why
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to be careful about which you see and who you
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trust in this. And also how these USO, you know,
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underwater summercial objects or UAPs or UFOs, how they work,
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how gravity works so that they can move at the
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speeds they do. I guess I've been watching these disclosure
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meetings with Congress on the YouTube and on you know,
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Fox and things, and the thing that kind of sticks
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out to me is particularly from doctor Greer, his testimonies
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about the use of gravity. You know that we'll be
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able to replace fossil fuels and use gravity instead. Now
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I don't know how he came to that conclusion, but
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that is correct. These flying saucers that you know a
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lot of them, they are hours and they're a lot
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that are not ours. But the way they fly is
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they pull energy out of Earth's gravitational field. And that's
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because Earth's gravity is not like some magnet or something
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like that. The pull of gravity down towards the surface
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of the Earth appears to be one directional. But they've
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found in various tests drilling deep wells two to three
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or four miles deep straight down you know, like a channel,
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and they were dropping one inch diameter steel balls down
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this shaft, and at the bottom they had equipment to
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measure how long it took to get there, and that
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kind of stuf. When they started the experiment, they started
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dropping these steel balls down that mine shaft, and they
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weren't arriving at the bottom, and so they sent a
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camera down to figure out where they went. And as
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they were going down the hole, they found out that
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it was about half to three quarters the way down
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on the east side of this shaft. The steel ball
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bearings had impacted into the wall. They hadn't fallen straight,
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they'd fallen with an easterly direction. And this is in
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keeping with the way that gravity works. Gravity is somewhat
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like if you take a glass of water and you put,
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say a very light scattering of black pepper and some
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heavy sand from the beach, and you mix them up
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in there and stir this water and let it settle.
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But as it's moving, you see this vortex forming, and
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it goes up the side of the glass and then
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down and forms this kind of tornado looking center. Now
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I imagine the glass here and the mirror image of
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it here. So that you have these two on top
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of each other. And that's how the field of the
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Earth and anything that has gravity looks. And it's because
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there's a like if you take a bucket of paint
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with a paint ster, you know, on a drill, yes, sir,
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and you put that stir down the middle of the paint,
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and you start, you know, spinning it and going faster
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and faster until you see ripples coming out from the
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center of the paint bucket out toward the edge of
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the you know, to the edge of the can. And
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if you get just the right speed with your drill,
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the waves going out to the edge and coming back
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will we'll meet each other and form a standing wave
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that doesn't go anywhere. And that's how gravity is. It's
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the waves that are going out or diverging from a planet,
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reflecting back from space itself, which is a fluid, and
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then diverging sorry converging over the others to form this
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very perfect stable orbit. And as the whole universe ages,
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as atoms run down, planets run down, they expand and
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throw off shells, these standing ways to come a shell
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and then disappear and as heat into the environment out
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there because of this. There's a way that's been developed
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several ways in fact, to build a local gravitic coil
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and to use that to interact with the gravity waves
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of the Earth to then be able to get electricity
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out of your environment around you. Drive your car, fly
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your plane, do your submarine, make your flying saucer, have
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a deep space rocket which will be not a rocket
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but a ship. They can go through space and go
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faster than the speed of light. All of these things
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are going to impact the petroleum or fossil fuel industries.
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It won't completely kill them, but the majority of what
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the fossil fuel companies are making money from is for
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you know, propulsion for transport. And if you take that
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away and make a little thing in fact, let me
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just see, I'll see if I can just share a
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picture of this coil. This is what the coil looks
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like here. Now can you see that coil on your screen? There? Yes, sir, okay,
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this is how the heart of say, like a thirty
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foot to fifty foot diameter flying saucer used to look
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when I was in the program. And you can make
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them smaller. For cars, you don't need a battery except
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maybe to start the thing, but because it'll draw energy
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out of the gravity of the Earth and propel your
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a saucer, or your plane or your car. So Elon
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Musk is ahead of the curve in that he's designed
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and manufactured electric cars that right now run on batteries,
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but you're not going to need those when you have
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this kind of a coil in the car. And this
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is going to impact the Patroyal Ministry hugely, so I
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don't think they're going to be in favor of too
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much of this disclosure, releasing this public this information to
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the public. But I'm already starting to counter that move.
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I've sponsored thirty five different groups of people as civilians
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that wanted to experiment and play with this anti gravity coil,
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and we started just a few months ago now then,
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and they're all having various difficulties making or getting the
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components needed, like I've got here in this drawing, but
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that's a close up of it.
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You can see it there.
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The trick is you have this gray area which is
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like a magnetic core, and you wrap coils around it.
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This green coil goes all the way around it, the
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red coal goes all around it. But these two coils
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when they wrap around this core are for carrying DC
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electricity direct current, and they're at right angles to each other,
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and both of them are at right angles to the
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center coal going up this way. Now, this generates the
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condition that they did in the Philadelphia experiment years ago,
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and you know that was the first accidental exposure to
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DRDIC fields in altered time and that kind of stuff. Yeah,
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is the corey again?
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Is the core like a fair eye?
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The original ones that well, flat iron washers or laminated cores.
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Now I've got it hollow here because that was what
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was inside of our craft in the assembly area. But
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that's the cool of this because it gets pretty warm
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in there when you're putting in enough energy to support
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you know, fifteen ton craft and that kind of stuff.
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But you can have that solid see if there's Yeah,
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there's just different drawings of that. This is without the core,
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so you can see how these coils wrap. Anyway, the
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use of this is what is going to be the
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center of disclosure. Now we have contact, We've had contact
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before even World War One, with beings that are more
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advanced than us. The Bible calls them angels, good angels,
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bad angels, whatever, and they've been gradually encouraging mankind to
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raise industry to the point they've got minds that can
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process minerals and electronics so that humans can then manufacture
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the stuff that these fallen ones, which came from a
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parallel universe, like the Bible says, when they were cast
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down here, they didn't get to bring all the support
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industries and minerals. So our project under doctor Teller and
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Sakarof and the others was simply to help them build
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infrastructure to manufacture new technology that they need, and they're
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going to use that technology to enslave mankind as an
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army to do their bidding while they have a war
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with the beings in the heavens above where they came from.
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It's the angelic conflict that the Bible speaks of, and
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Jesus in the Book of Matthew does warn don't be
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fooled by this great deception that's coming upon you. And
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it's going to be so clever that even the very
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elective believers will be fooled if such were possible. And
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I don't know whether that's because they've been raptured or
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whether they're the holy spirits and dwelling them and telling them, look,
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don't be fooled by this alien arrival pretending to be
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Jesus and his mates. They're going to be some very
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powerful pieces of evidence late before the public of the
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planet to say, look, here's our technology, we come from
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the stars, or your elder brothers, we mean you no harm.
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Jesus was one of us. And because these creatures really
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were back at the Crucifixion, they'll probably have video, even
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three D video of the Crucifixion itself, to prove their authority.
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So I'm mourning people. That's one of the main reasons
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I'm sharing this technology and the information about the craft
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and the invasion or quote unquote invasion, so that people
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have the facts before them and aren't fooled by these
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aliens who come posing as angels or messengers of light.
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And that's definitely what has been said to several of
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the contactees and adductees of these UFO abduction cases. Now,
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imagine if you're saying and you're going to have a
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war with where you came from in the parallel universe
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with Jesus, you know, the creator, and you're going to
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have a war down here for the Armageddon conflict well,
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you're going to need weapons, and you're going to need
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to confuse the issue down here so people don't follow him.
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And to do that, you're going to have to imitate
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what is in the scripture about the arrival of the
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Antichrist and of Satan in his menions. And so that
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means that he's going to have to figure out how
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to do a rapture removal of a lot of people
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all of a sudden. He may not be able to
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do that. He may wait till it happens and claim
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that it's his people sending people of birth who are
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of bad vibrations to other worlds to be trained, you know,
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and polished until they can come back to Earth and
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live in harmony with these aliens are fallen angels. Anyway
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you would look at things, you'd say, well, people are
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going to want to get rid of the bad aliens
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for instead of abduct and hurt people, So you get
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rid of those that you've created, and say, look these
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great critters and you know, insect toys, we're getting rid
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of them. So everybody says, hey, that's great. And then
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they're going to say, look, we're going to get rid
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of the deep state and all these rich guys that
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have been, you know, oppressing the people of this planet.
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new global economy, new global science and energy sources, and
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everybody's going to do Yay. We get rid of the illbanati,
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the deep state and whatever, and we're going to have
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a fair government run by these people who obviously must
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be good because they've survived and come from so many
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other worlds with this new technology. To us, now, this
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is Satan. You know, he's got to look at all
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these things. He's got to duplicate, you, imitate the real
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thing with fake stuff. And we're expecting the Antichrist to
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come and I'm sure that he will figure out a
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way to say, okay, Xyz is the Antichrist, maybe one
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of our politicians, and get rid of them, take them
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out of power. And again people will say this is
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being fulfilled if they're alerted to it. So when the
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alien disclosure is official and people are shown a video
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of where he is and his minions in the desert
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or some remote place, and to get to you have
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to travel out away from the cities and find him,
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you know where you're told to go. When that happens.
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If you're here, don't go looking for him there, because
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when the real Messiah, creator of our virtual reality, this universe,
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when he comes, he says, it will be as a
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flash of lightning from the east to the west that
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everyone will go and see me wherever they are. You
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won't have to come looking for me. So just if
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you're alive during that time on the planet here, don't
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be fooled by this, because they're going to be recognizable
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by a man that they will put probably connect him
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to a virtual AI computer, you know, through chipping the
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brain like Elon Musk has been talking about, and this being,
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this human will be their puppet in essence running the planet.
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I think that he and hiss Ai computer that's linked
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to him will be what is the beast in the
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Revelation of John. I know there's a lot of Bible
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talking here, but I'm telling you from an engineer and
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physicists point of view, having been involved in these things
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and seeing what the game plan is and it fits
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what the Bible says. I felt it my duty all
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these years to inform people and to show them the
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technologies that they're going to be seeing. And they are
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good technologies, but in the hands of bad beings. So
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just that that's my main thrust. Carl.
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Yeah, do you think the Antichrist is already here?
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Yes, okay, I think according to Daniel, he's going to
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be a being one of the earth people that is
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going to sign a peace treaty between Israel and the
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surrounding nations. Now, this is about to happen.
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Now.
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The Saudis, Saudi Arabians are the major power in those
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forty to forty one Arab Islamic nations over in the
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Middle East, and they surround Israel. To them, they would
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rather see Israel disappear, but they're willing to make a
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peace treaty in the form of the Abraham Accords. You're
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going to be seeing more of this this year. And
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one of the people that signs that Abraham Accords with
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all the nations around Israel, the Arab nations, one of
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the people that signs that is going to be the Antichrist.
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Now who it will be, I don't know. I have
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my suspicions he's going to have a lot of power
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and money already, and you probably won't be an old guy,
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be middle aged. The person that I think, right now
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does stand a chance of being The guy is Prince
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Mohammed ben Saloman, the Prince of Saudi Arabia, and Daniel
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look at Daniel, he says that it's the prince of
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this covenant that's going to be the Antichrist. So the
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guy has to be a prince. Well, Prince Mohammed bin
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Salman is a prince with a lot of power now
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because his father is ninety years old and in the
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hospital and close to death. But for the time being,
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Mohammed bin Salman is a prince, not a king, even
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though he acts like it. There may be other people
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that could qualify as a prince that have a lot
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of money and power, somebody from Turkey maybe, But the
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strongest guy can find that fits all these factors is
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Prince Bahama b and Saman. He's already formed a coalition
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of Arab nations and I think they're about forty one
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of them in this collection or group, and they've formed
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together this Arabic union to fight terrorism. Now, when you
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look at the fine print of what they define as terrorism,
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it's acts that act against the Islam and the Mohammedanism
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that's their terrorist and to play in that game if
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you are America and Israel, you are bad guys. You're
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you're the enemy, you're the terrorist against Islam. And even
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though people don't see the fine print in this consorting
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us form, he has done it. And in so doing
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he's also fulfilling what Damas the Seer, you know, Damas
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predicted for the Antichrist of this age. Now, whether you
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follow most or Damas or not, one of the things
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that he did say was the name of the Antichrist
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of this age is Mabus m a b U s
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Now Prince ben Salomon is known in the castle there
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in the always as m B s Muhammad ben Salaman.
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And he has formed an Arabic union. So if you
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look at it, it's M for Mabus, m a Arabic,
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B for ben uh u for union, and then S
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for some. So Mabus was a tricky way for Nosterdamus
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to name the anti Crisset of this age.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with that quad train and the Maybis. Yeah, yeah,
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I'm familiar with that one.
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Well, this this does fulfill that. And also Mohammad b
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and Soma, let's call him MBS. He's invested heavily in
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blockchain technology and corporations heading for a world economy that
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is totally digital, where every object in the planet that
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you buy or sell, whether the land or products or people,
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will have a tag to their name, to their I
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D which follows them wherever they go. If they're jar
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a peanut butter and sold to John Smith, then there
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is a record that that piece of peanut butter nut can,
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that particular one went to that guy, and it's still
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there until he sells it and they deactivated. So everything,
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every transaction will have a blockchain ID, and you won't
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be able to do business because the global economic collapse
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that is coming possibly this year, is going to make
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currency and currency change illegal, and it's going to be
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a crisis that suddenly appears, and the Antichrist of this
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age will come with a solution using this global digital
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technology and says to the banks, forgive everybody's debt and
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let's start over. Now this can be done. And let's
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then get rid of all the illegal money and currencies
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that are being used around the planet. Let's follow the
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digital footprint of all the drug lords and crime lords
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and whatever and cut them off. We just turned off
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their digital account. They don't have any money because paper
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money and goal gold and silver aren't worth anything anymore.
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You can't use them. And that's a little bit of
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a clue to people right now. If you've got gold
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and silver, I might suggest that you, you know, convert it,
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sell it while you can, because it's going to be useless,
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and so is the money. But you might use that money,
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you know, in the interim that you have in your
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safe or at the bank until they look at your
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bank account and say, okay, it's all wiped out. But
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gold and silver are a hedge against what is coming.
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Not for the long term anyway. It's we're seeing this.
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I just just watch Saudi Arabia and NBS, and you
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know President Trump and his son in law Jared Kushner
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are working in concert with MBS. NBS has invested one
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or two billion dollars into Jared Kushner's companies in the
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Middle East so that he can go around to different countries,
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Arab countries and offer them a business plan and some
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money to join this Abraham Piece Accord Pie Street again,
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you know, with Israel, and so Jered Kushner is doing that.
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It's it's there's a lot of things that I can
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tell you later on about him. But if you go
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later on after the show to my website Stando dot
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com that's s T A N D e yo dot com,
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and you'll find a little button up to the right
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with a like a YouTube sign or something, and you'll
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see some words that say show images, and if you
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click on show images, they'll take you down into my
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site to this thing where I put all kinds of
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other discussions, particularly about the Antichrist, and that's in slide
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thirteen on that show images page. You click on that
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and you'll see a comparison of various individuals who might
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qualify today anyway for Antichrist to this age, telling me
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about how they fulfill prophecy and how their name contains
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a derivative of King Solomon's name. Revelation thirteen is telling
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you about here wisdom is that's the wisest guy was
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King Solomon. And this the name. The number of the
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beast is going to be sixty sixty six, Well Solomon.
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King Solomon had income from the nations that he was
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overseeing of six hundred and sixty six talents of gold
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per year. Now, using that I didn't look to add
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up people's names, that are you may be qualified to
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be Antichrist. I didn't use Gavatri. I'd say, okay, you know,
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President Trump adds up to sixty sixty six, It doesn't.
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What I did do was look for candidates, as I
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am doing right now across the Middle East and Europe,
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whose name has a derivative of Solomon and Muhammad. And
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Solomon does Sumani the guy that got killed the general
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lower in An, he had Suliman Suleimane. So look for
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a man whose name has a rib of Solomon and
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has lots of money and power, even now before the
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anti Christ is appointed or released on us. See, I'll
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tell you what, Carl, You and I would probably stay
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up for days if we get sit down, have a
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cup of coffee and discuss all.
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This, Yes, sir, And it's all disturbing, that's for sure.
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But it's good in one respect because we are a
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generation that is able to be alive and see the
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prophecies come true right before us, which makes it so
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easy to be a believer and the follow Jesus Christ
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at this time.
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Yes, sir, that's that's the truth on this disclosure stuff.
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Do you feel that they'll ever actually come out I've
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watched these hearings and a lot of the comments when
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people are asked questions is I can't I can't answer that,
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or I'm not at liberty to discuss it. So it
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seems like, you know, the cover ups there and it's
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kind of stuck right now.
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What do you think, Yeah, if you look at the
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direct TV or some of these satellite companies that have
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these movies and channels and stuff like that. I've been
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studying it for the past couple of months and there's
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been a huge increase in the number of meetings and
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conferences where facts are being laid out in pressures being
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put on the government to release all this. Now, it'll
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the release is not going to be a favorite thing
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towards the governments of the world. It's going to be
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a grassroots revolution against them. And I think like I've
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been trying to get a career because his people ask
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me to put a two hour testimony of what I
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was involved in for them to release to the government.
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They took it. They filmed it out here near Nora
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had a few years back, and they never used it.
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They never mentioned what I'm telling you now. I talked
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to Dreer, I talked to Jeremy Carpral, to George Snapp,
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to a lot of the leading people trying to force
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this disclosure, and they've now stopped talking to me. They
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won't listen. I won't even acknowledge me when I'm saying, look,
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here's how the technology works, here's where we did it,
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here's what the plan is. They don't want to know
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about it. So the people that we need in this
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movement against you know, the government secrecy, won't let me
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tell them the truth or won't accept it.
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One or two. I don't know.
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You are different. You're letting me talk about this openly
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and on your podcast here. But it just tells me
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that I'm on the right track because they are pushing
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to keep me out of the game. They want to
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have this new world government under the Antichrist, but they
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don't consider him to be the Antichrist. They consider him
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to be our elder brother from space, you know, to
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be our spacemen massiahs. Yeah, you look at the New
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Age movement, they'll tell you that.
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What you aw on the Age of Disclosure movie that
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just was recently released, is it any new information or
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just repeating a lot of stuff that's been out there
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and just rehashing it. Say that again on the movie
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The Age of Disclosure. Do you think they gave any
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new information or is most of the information in the
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in the documentary just rehashing of old information.
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Mainly it's rehashing. There's a couple of new, you know,
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things being released, but in sightings one of the things
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that you know, people have been in these meetings and
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just lawyers have been talking about what they saw, what
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the tic TAC did, and that kind of stuff. And
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I got to tell you, I can explain everything that
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you're seeing, Like when they talk about USO you know
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in the eighteen hundreds that came up out of the
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ocean is a big red ball and then it disappeared
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into the heavens. Or when there was a long flap
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thing off the California coast that was reddish orange red
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and came over that base for so many minutes. I
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can explain how these things happen. I mean, when you
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take water and you put it put an electric gravitational
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field around the water and go down into the water.
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In fact, let me just share a picture of that
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when I'm talking about it. Here there, I think is
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where it is Can you see that now, yes, sir, okay.
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Now this is back in the eighteen hundreds that one
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report where this red ball came up out of the
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water and it glowed orangey red. Well, here's how that happens.
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The field that is generated around these crafts is high voltage,
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and anything over five thousand volts, maybe ten thousand bolts,
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anything over that will cause in the water like this
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will cause the water molecules hydrogen and oxygen to break apart,
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and you'll have two hydrogens and one oxygen around the
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surface of that field around that craft, and hydrogen has
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energy states and energy states. I think it's three and four.
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When it drops down from four to three, it clows
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orangey red. Now, this craft and the field around it,
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we're down in the water, and that water is all
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over the outer envelope of the field where there is
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high voltage. And I'm pretty sure that the reason they
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glow orange, whether the sphere or whether they're a flat plate,
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is because they've been in the water. They've ionized, you know,
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separated the hydrogen oxygen, and hydrogen is losing energy as
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the craft moves up out of the water, but in
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so doing it releases its orange red light. Now this
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00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.000
thing makes a dent in the water. Because the field
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is a local gravity field. This is like a small
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earth here, this ball around this craft.
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But time.
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This is interesting thing. If you could walk from the
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edge of this ball down to the center of that
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craft into the center of the field, you would start
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aging faster as you walk toward the center. And the
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average thirty to fifty foot diameter UFO craft like this
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in the past, if it landed in a field and
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somebody tried to walk up to it, as they walked
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toward the edge of the craft, they would start to age.
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And the ratio between the crew in the center and
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the outside world can be as high as seven to
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eight thousand times faster than you are. If you could
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see them be like a little blur, you know, with
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their motion because of moving so fast, they live seven
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to eight thousand times faster than people outside the field. Now,
538
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:53.400
in Brazil, years ago, they're at a military base at night.
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A bright light landed in the paddocks out on the
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edge of the airfield. They sent out, I think it
541
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was about five soldiers, a sergeant in charge of four
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of them out to investigate this. That night. They got
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out there, and the sergeant says, okay, man split up.
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You go that way, that way, I'll go this way.
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We'll find this craft and then we'll meet back here.
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I'd say fifteen minutes. So they all disappeared into the
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night there in the edge of the airfield. Pretty soon
548
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they all get back together, you know, fifteen minutes, except
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they're missing the sergeant. He doesn't come back. Now this
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00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.159
is a documented case. Suddenly, as they're saying where is
551
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.400
Sergeant Garcia or whatever his name was, where is he?
552
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He stumbles out of the undergrowth there onto the tarmac
553
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there with him and says Muchatra's men. Men, He says, help,
554
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and he falls into their arms. He now has a
555
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five day growth of beard from when he was standing
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with them fifteen minutes earlier. His watch is advanced. He
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had a calendar watch five days. The man had spent
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five days as he walked into the edge of the
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field toward the center of it. So that's that just
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00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.039
tells you about the time dilation. This is a secret
561
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.480
to how these UFOs. You see a right light in
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the sky, or you see a tick tack whatever, how
563
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it can be standing still and then suddenly go straight line,
564
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gone faster than your head can move, and not fall apart,
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00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:29.079
not be squashed because they're inside that field and their
566
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atoms are highly charged and very energetic. What they say
567
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is their energy density is great. And when they turn
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that corner or go straight up and down, they don't
569
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do a gradual curves. They go straight line, bang bang
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bang bank as they charge discharge their craft to set
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up a new direction of traveling distance. If you if
572
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you draw an analogy like this, take a big thick
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titanium sphere, say about ten feet in diameter, and inside
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of that encapsulate another titanium sphere sphere that's a hollow,
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and in between them you pour oil to lubricate them
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and keep them from bump against each other hard. You
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00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.239
take this and you put a chair with a man
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in it inside the inner sphere, look him to the wall,
579
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and you take it up on a fifty story building
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and throw it over the edge with a man in it.
581
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He goes down boom boom, boom, bounces a few times
582
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and comes to rest. But if you go down there now,
583
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it didn't collapse because it was a very strong steel ball.
584
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And this is kind of a parable and you go
585
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.079
next to that outer steel ballm and you listen and
586
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:47.840
you hear the inner ball is spinning like crazy still
587
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with the oil separating it from the outer ball, and
588
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.360
it might spend for ten hours until it slows down.
589
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But what it does do is pass heat out through
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the oil into the outer sphere as it slows down,
591
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.039
and finally the inner ball stops spinning. Now, the guy
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00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.880
on the inside didn't feel you know, fifty or sixty
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g force when he hit the ground because he started
594
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to spin and the spin let him, you know, spread
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his gravitational change, his inertial change over many hours and
596
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.800
finally it comes to stop. This is the same with
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this UFO field. People inside amortize the change in energy
598
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or inertia, so they take that corner, and to them,
599
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they're turning that corner in a period of a few hours,
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while outside we see it as instantaneous. If they had
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a window and looked out at you and I, they
602
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would see us in slow motion.
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Ooh ooh, ooh.
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Well there's a sopping around inside. And you know, they
605
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.719
could be having a cup of coffee or playing a
606
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.599
card game as they turn a corner or take a vertical,
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00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:57.199
you know, jumping whatever. It is like twenty thirty thousand
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miles an hour, instantaneous. So these things I'm telling you,
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I know so much about this and it's hard to
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impart all of you, all this to you in a
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space of an hour. So this is why I make
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the videos on you know, the stream Yard with Kevin Gallagher.
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Why I make the YouTube and Rumble videos so that
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00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.920
I can catch you up with various aspects of the technology,
615
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.519
the reason for it big withheld, and how it's going
616
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:33.519
to help fulfill biblical prophecy. See, even even Jesus and God,
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our creator, they live in a parallel universe to us,
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and there is a veiled if youis a curtain between
619
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us physically. And when Ezekiel was standing by the river Kabar,
620
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and he looked up and saw a flaming chariot come
621
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out of the sky and down to him, down to him.
622
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It took a while to get down because it was
623
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flaming and hot. Well that was to us. It was
624
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throwing off the huge amounts of energy on his atoms.
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Because out there where Jesus lives everything the time is
626
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passing much faster since the time that Jesus was here
627
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like two thousand years ago or whatever. There have been
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tens of thousands of years of his time past where
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he is. This is how they can look into the
630
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:20.960
details of our life here is because we're almost an
631
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.119
in suspended animation according to how fast they live, and
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they can look and see and move peaces, you know,
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on the earth to fit into God's plan for what's happening.
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When Jesus arose from the dead in the grave in
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the garden, and Mary came running up to him that
636
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morning and said, look, oh, master, Master, she recognized is
637
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gonna hug him. He said, wait, wait, don't touch me yet,
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00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:46.880
for I have not yet ascended, because his energy was
639
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.239
being charged on his atoms so that he could then
640
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:53.599
go up through the veil into the heavens where he
641
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:57.519
and his father lived, his great and you know live there,
642
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and then come back now him to build houses for
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all of his people that are going to be believing
644
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in him and following him and be raised and that
645
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.920
didn't come up to be with him. It takes time,
646
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even in Jesus time to build all these places and
647
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.599
dominions and stuff for people to inhabit. And he's got
648
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plenty of time according to our time. You know, a
649
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day of our time might be a thousand years of
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his time. Because they're they're living so fast, he can
651
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do so much. There's there's a lot of mystery in
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00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:36.280
the passage of time, and it's understanding this will help
653
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people to realize how God and Jesus can be in
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complete control of everything happening here and you know, down
655
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to the microsecond, know and say and do what is
656
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necessary to fulfill God's plan for each of us and
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for this this world that we live in. So time
658
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does pass at different rates because of the speed of
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the molecules, you know in a field that they're yes, sir,
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And by the way, sorry, go on.
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I know in some religions they believe that a day
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to God equals about a thousand years for us. Have
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you Are you familiar with that?
664
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Yeah, but I think it's it should be reversed. Yeah,
665
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so I'm feeling with that, Okay, I mean, we'll think
666
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about it. If we're living a thousand times your thousand
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years times faster than him in a day, how could
668
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he keep up with this? How could he, you know,
669
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be into our lives and organize things? Reverse it and
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he has all the time in the world to come
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down and attend to the smallest detail, the smallest bird
672
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that falls in the desert, you are, the roots of
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00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.920
your hair, everything to do that. It's like we're all
674
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in suspended animation, really to his time, and you know,
675
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if they come down in their craft, they do have
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to discharge it. Some of those religions in the Middle
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East in Samaria that built ziggorots, you know, these square
678
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:12.719
sided pyramids and maybe three layers tall, they said that
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when the gods little g when the gods came down
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to earth, that we couldn't touch them because they clothed.
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So they would come in out of the portal on
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the top of the zigarot and eat and drink food
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and drink that the people put there for them to
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consume while their energy dissipated into the surrounding air. Then
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they would go down to the next level and wait,
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you know, a number of hours until the rest of
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the energy's gone, and finally come down to ground level
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where they could touch the people and not hurt them.
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So they even talk about energy density of the gods
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coming down to earth. Oh and here's another thing in
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the Bible, there are three levels of existence. At least
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there's hours, there's the level below us and the level
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above us where the gods dwell, you know, three layers
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of heaven. The reports of gods coming into a room
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in a haunted house. People who've seen that or witness
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that have said that as the ghostly apparition appeared, the
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temperature in the room dropped. Why because in the sub universe,
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a parallel universe, but whereas energy is less dense, they're
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cold compared to us. So when they break through partially
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as a being appearing here, they lower the temperature of
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the room because they're sucking our heat. They're cold. Yeah,
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it's the reverse of the angels and the flaming chariot
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coming down.
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Yeah, you've experienced an NDE was What was the situation
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with that?
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Oh?
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That was interesting. That was that was really interesting. It
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was a real blessing. Nineteen sixty nine in Dallas when
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I was in the computer business, I was single. I
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was in my apartment there in Dallas on Taylor Avenue,
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I think it was. Anyway, I fell ill one night
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in the apartment and I had some kind of an
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infection because I hurt every joint of my body. And
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so I went over to the local hospital and I said, no, look, guys,
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I need some painkiller or something. I'm in a bad way.
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So they checked me and they found yes, I had
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some kind of a strange bacterial infection, maybe from the
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swimming pool at the apartments or something, but it was
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really bad. So at that time, in sixty nine, achromace
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in four was an experimental ant a body. So they said, look,
721
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.199
we're going to give you some of this thosha up
722
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.400
pretty good, good at the beginning here in the hospital.
723
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.039
Then we're going to send you home with these pills
724
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.719
that you take every so many hours. And so they
725
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.320
shot me full of this antibotic and I went home
726
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:46.599
and it was evening and the pools outside my apartment
727
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:49.639
there on the ground floor. I went into my bedroom
728
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:54.440
and I hurt so bad. It's hard to imagine every
729
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.800
joint in your body hurt. Well. I laid down on
730
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the bed in my bedroom and had a lamp by
731
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the bed and a phone. I laid down and I
732
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.480
started moving my hands and arms and body to the
733
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.880
positions which put the least force on my joints so
734
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.079
that they had the least amount of pain, all right.
735
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.000
So I'm doing that and I finally get to a
736
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.960
position almost like a man on a cross, but laying down,
737
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.639
and I'm thinking, oh, I'll try to relax with this.
738
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.800
And I was looking up at the ceiling and I
739
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:30.840
heard a sound like you know, people were playing in
740
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.920
the pool at night, there some game, and someone was
741
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.599
turning down the sound so that gradually I couldn't hear.
742
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:41.480
I thought, well, that's interesting. Now I'm not thinking so
743
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:44.920
much about pain as a scientist. I'm thinking what's causing
744
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.760
my hearing to go that way? Looking up at the ceiling.
745
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Then suddenly I saw a white area of it closing down,
746
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.559
closing down as the room became dark, I couldn't see
747
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:59.199
any light, and I was really amazed now. And then
748
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.800
I saw myself and so I were standing out over
749
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.840
my body, looking at my navel and at a faucet,
750
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:09.079
water faucet that was had a slow drip falling from it,
751
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.320
cutting down toward my navel, and I thought, what is this?
752
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.239
And I as it fell and was going to hit me,
753
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:19.039
suddenly I bounced out of my body, went straight through
754
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:23.039
the ceiling up into this very smooth, silky blackness that
755
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:31.840
was warm and I I started experiencing things like a
756
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.199
fluid flowing through me at great speed, you know, I
757
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:36.880
was moving through it, and it was like I was
758
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:40.480
made of, you know, a wire screen. My body was
759
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.519
because off to my right, I was seeing little puffs
760
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.519
of smoke go off of my body as something washed
761
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:51.039
out from my body from flowing through this fluid. And
762
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:54.239
I realized that as these particles were washed out of
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00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:57.559
my body, I lost a negative emotion. I hate to greed,
764
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you know, envy, whatever I would. I was being cleaned
765
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:03.840
and I thought, wow, this is magnificent. And so I
766
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.000
was curled up a little bit in a semi fetal position,
767
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.119
but not quite there, and I was I was enjoying this.
768
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It was no pain in a great trip. And oft
769
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time I write, after all this cleansing and stuff, I
770
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:21.280
see a bunch of little like theaterets, you know, like
771
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.480
like TVs would be, but they were like little theaters,
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hundreds of them that were parts of my life, you know,
773
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past and in dealings with various people. And I could
774
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watch as many as like a hundred of these little
775
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:38.199
stages at the time, and I could understand each one
776
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.320
of them as though it were one screen. But I
777
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.960
was seeing them all and I would see a person
778
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:44.880
that I had hurt by what I had said or
779
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.320
done in an instance, and then I was seeing into
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00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:50.880
their life how that affected them, and I would say, oh, yes,
781
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:56.119
well I did that, yeah, yeah, And I didn't feel guilt.
782
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.039
I was like a judge looking neutrallly at my life
783
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and seeing how I had hurt people in the life,
784
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.679
you know, and in some cases how they'd hurt me.
785
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.760
But anyway, after I had seen all of these things,
786
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.679
the theater ats started to shut down, and I had
787
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:15.559
finished seeing all that, and this voice, a man's voice
788
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.119
off to my right, was talking me through this. And
789
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.760
I looked out into the blackness and then I could
790
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.679
see like galaxies, and I said to it the voice there,
791
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:31.760
I said, oh wow, how does all this work? It
792
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.000
took me years the download that went into my mind
793
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:40.599
to be assimilated. I had no idea. The things I've
794
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:47.239
been taught from that, you know, are magnificent. I went,
795
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.000
you know, I came back to my body. I was
796
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.880
pulled down by this chord that was attached to my
797
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.840
spirit into the body, and I didn't want to go back,
798
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:57.840
but I had to. After I've seen all this and
799
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.679
I fell down into my body and my left leg
800
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.400
and my left arm or hanging on a ledge in
801
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.719
that other world and trying to figure out how to
802
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.679
cut that cord. It was in my right side, and
803
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:13.320
it was the phone was ringing next to the bed
804
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.199
and it was stimulating me through my right side. So
805
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:20.119
I my hand that was off. The ledge was in
806
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.719
the in the bed. It was like moving a big
807
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.360
lump of ten pound ham from the narrow end and
808
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:27.760
try to reach over and knock the phone off, which
809
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.360
I finally managed to do because my arms and things
810
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.159
were bit asleep or something. Anyway, the phone fell down
811
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:38.880
next to my face and I said hello. Well he
812
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:43.599
was like more like yeah, hello, because my eyes were
813
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.639
dried open and my throat was dry, and it's my
814
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.519
mother's voice comes through, and I said, you know, I thought, well,
815
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:51.440
I'll get rid of her and then go back out.
816
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:53.639
And I said what do you want, mom? And she said,
817
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:56.440
I just I just saw you. I said, oh yeah.
818
00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:00.440
She said, like when your grandfather died, his soul spirit
819
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:03.679
walked before me as he was dying, and I just
820
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:06.760
saw you walk before me. I said, oh, don't worry
821
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:11.039
about it, momssed you know that's that's nothing, just imagination,
822
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.360
and my arm and my leg fell off with that
823
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:18.440
ledge and I couldn't get back out there. Now, over
824
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:23.039
the months and years had passed, really unusual things would happen,
825
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:29.519
like not long after that, I was married and we
826
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.199
had I think two children, two young sons at that time,
827
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:34.800
and that was out in the suburbs of Dallas and
828
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.119
escape one Christmas season there we were about a week
829
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:41.360
away from Christmas, I think my wife and I were
830
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:47.320
sitting there wrapping packages, and I was reading a paperback
831
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:50.159
that one of my staff had given me, and it
832
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:54.920
was on the biography of Albert Einstein, and I was
833
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:56.840
going through the pages one of the time reading and
834
00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:01.119
I got to this particular place and Einstein said that
835
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:04.719
he was not satisfied with what he had developed in relativity,
836
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:09.320
special relativity, because it didn't explain to him how light,
837
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:14.239
which is obviously a wave form, occurred, because if space
838
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:17.800
is nothing, how can a waveform in nothing? And this
839
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.880
is his problem. So I laid the book down, and
840
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.679
the wife was sitting downder wrapping packages. I went around
841
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:27.000
here over to the blackboard by my desk, took the chalcup,
842
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.239
and I drew as the sun as a big white,
843
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.760
you know dot, and then the earth over here a
844
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:35.880
smaller one, and in between I put a matrix of dots.
845
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:40.760
I said, supposed light propagates itself somehow. And I looked
846
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:43.320
at that and I thought, what are you trying to do?
847
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.760
Einstein is, you know, a genius and everything and what
848
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:48.960
I'm talking about. It doesn't matter. So I raced it,
849
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.760
sat back down and picked up my book, and it
850
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.440
was as the book was written as though. I mean,
851
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.079
the letters weren't even English anymore. They were some foreign
852
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.920
language that I couldn't understand, and I couldn't read any more.
853
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.000
So I said to the wife, this is amazing. I said,
854
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.360
this is supposed to be English. It's turned into this
855
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:11.159
foreign language. She says, well, obviously you've got something going
856
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:13.199
on over the blackboard you haven't finished. Go do that
857
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.599
and maybe you can read again. So I walked around
858
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:17.159
her and I went over to the blackboard and I
859
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:19.360
put the chalk up on the blackboard, thinking well, what
860
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:22.519
am I going to put up here now? And I
861
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.360
looked up and I said wow, And she says, oh,
862
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:28.960
you're not going to erase that, are you? And I said, well,
863
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.119
I was going to draw a new drawing. She says, oh,
864
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:33.719
don't want to erase that picture. And I stood back
865
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:36.039
and looked at it, and my eraser marks had formed
866
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:41.159
a perfect chalk shaded side view of Albert Einstein and
867
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:44.760
his head and his beard or you know, he's here. Okay,
868
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:46.960
So I, she says, leave it up, don't erase that
869
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.000
whatever it is that formed, that would tell the family
870
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:51.440
and the neighbors and everything. So I left it and
871
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.360
came back picked up the book and it was in
872
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:57.320
English again. So I thought, wow, okay, I'm on the
873
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:02.119
right track somehow. What is it that I dreamed equations
874
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:05.760
like crazy? I was seeing how everything worked, what had
875
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:07.239
been shown when I was out of the body, but
876
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.800
couldn't remember. It started to come back in dreams over many,
877
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:16.599
many months, and you know, I can't explain except that
878
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:19.840
between four thirty and five thirty in the mornings I
879
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.119
would have like movies going on up here teaching me
880
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:23.480
things about all this stuff.
881
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:26.000
You know.
882
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:29.480
I discovered the Garden of Beeden in a similar manner,
883
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:34.199
dream fashion Atlantis, where it was how the flood occurred,
884
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.679
where the meteor hit that caused the flood and broke
885
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:41.039
up atlantis. I mean, you know how gravity works, just
886
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.239
so many things, and they continue to this day. I
887
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:48.039
taught many things like this, So that is the outer
888
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:52.360
body experience that never left. Indeed that you know it
889
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:53.159
kept on going.
890
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:56.119
It sounds like it had a profound effect on you.
891
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:57.079
I'm sure it wouldn't be.
892
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:05.239
You know, Oh you have to idea. Oh I could
893
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.280
just ask a question. You know, in my mind even
894
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:10.519
I would think, well, how does Einstein and Shrotager's view
895
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:12.960
of this and the direct equations? Where are they wrong?
896
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.880
How do we fix that? And answer comes And it's
897
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:23.039
not like I'm an instant mathematical genius. I see in
898
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.320
three dimensional, real time imagery of what they're trying to
899
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.039
explain with mathematics. I see it for real. I can
900
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:34.079
see fluids in space and spin and what forms of
901
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.039
light photon and things like that. I see it rather
902
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:37.920
than the equation.
903
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:40.079
Well, so we're coming close to the end of the
904
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:43.320
first hour, and I have the other guests. That's all right, okay, sorry,
905
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.400
no worries, No worries at all. I would like to
906
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:48.320
have you back because I like to talk some more
907
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:51.000
about UFOs in a few months, if you'd be willing
908
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:52.039
to come back on the show.
909
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:56.119
Oh sure, sure, it's nice talking to you. It's like
910
00:54:56.199 --> 00:55:00.519
talking to art. You know, You've got very patient questions
911
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:04.079
and let me ramble on. Yeah, let's do.
912
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.719
It, alrighty, sir. Well, I will be back in touch
913
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:10.320
with you, or my producer will, and we'll schedule you
914
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:12.719
again for a few months down the road, because I
915
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:17.199
have some questions about the UFOs that we've been spotting.
916
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.880
The military has been spotting and stuff, and I have
917
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:21.159
to go over that with you, sir.
918
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.400
All Right, Carl, it's been nice visiting with you. I
919
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:25.280
look forward to doing that.
920
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:25.880
Well.
921
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:27.519
It's been a pleasure, in an honor to have you
922
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:29.639
on the show, and I look forward to having you back.
923
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:31.360
Thank you, sir, appreciate it.
924
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:32.400
Good night, sir.
925
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:18.719
Just this is Dark Matter News. I'm Joshua Stark. Scientists
926
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:22.400
have taken a major step toward using DNA itself as
927
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:27.199
a next generation data storage medium, unveiling a prototype DNA
928
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:32.000
cassette tape system that could redefine how massive amounts of
929
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:38.239
information are archived. Researchers in China developed a compact device
930
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:42.599
that mimics the form and function of classic magnetic cassette tapes,
931
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:48.159
but uses engineered DNA strands to store data. DNA can
932
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:54.039
pact staggering amounts of information into microscopic space, vastly outpacing
933
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:59.719
current silicon based storage technologies. However, turning that potential into
934
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.719
a practical system has been a major technical challenge. The
935
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:08.639
new platform features hundreds of thousands of individually addressable data
936
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:14.039
partitions on a polyester nylon tape infused with short synthetic
937
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:18.920
DNA sequences. Each partition can be written to, read from,
938
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:24.400
and rewritten given the system what the team calls deposit many,
939
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:29.159
recover many capability. In trials, the prototype was able to
940
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:35.679
automatically write, retrieve, delete, and rewrite digital files, including incomplete images,
941
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:41.079
within about fifty minutes using laboratory sequencing and decoding tools.
942
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:46.760
Unlike earlier DNA storage approaches that are slow or purely archival,
943
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:52.360
this device integrates physical data management with automated handling, a
944
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:56.519
key step toward real world use. The researchers report that
945
00:57:56.559 --> 00:58:00.199
a kilometer of this DNA tape could hold tens of
946
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.679
gigabytes of actual data. Let's catch up with us at
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darkmatternews dot com.
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In the early hours after the tsunami, it was HAM
949
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radio that was on the air saving line Florida was
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ripped by hurricade. Thus Hams were there in the critical
951
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moments after the attack of nine to eleven. It was
952
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the Hams who coordinated emergency messages when disaster strike that
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hams are ready, HAM radio works and other communications. Don't
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to learn how you can become a HAM radio operator
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called the ARRL the National Association for Amateur Radio one
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eight hundred and three two six three nine four to two.
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Welcome back to Midnight Fragrance of Radio. Our guests for
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the second hour of this evening is Ronald Mallett. Mister Mallet,
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01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.400
Welcome to Midnight Fragrance Radio.
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01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.320
Hello, it's nice to be on your program.
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01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:21.199
I'm gonna let you give everyone a rundown of your
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01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:25.320
background and I understand your PhD.
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01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:26.800
That's correct.
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01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:31.000
I received my PhD in physics from the Pennsylvania State
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01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:38.400
University and I'm currently a professor of emeritus at the
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01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:40.280
University of Connecticut.
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01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:45.400
You study time or well.
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01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:52.199
My specialty is Einstein's general theory of relativity. And excuse me,
984
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:58.719
I have I have to turn my headphone back a
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01:00:58.719 --> 01:00:59.199
little bit.
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01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:03.639
That's no worries. I've been having issues all evening, so
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01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:04.440
don't worry about it.
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01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:06.360
Yeah.
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01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:12.599
No, I've studied cosmology, black holes, and.
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01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:18.079
Quantum theory, and but my.
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01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:23.519
Specialty is everything that's associated with the general theory of relatively.
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01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.480
Your life changed after the passing of your father and
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01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:33.960
kind of led you into this relatively theories and time
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01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.960
travel and everything. I guess after reading The Time Machine
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01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:39.760
by H. G. Wells.
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01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.719
Yes, that's what led me into it. Originally.
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01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:46.679
I grew up in the Bronx, New York, and my
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01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:52.079
father was a television repairman in the Bronx, and for me,
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01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:54.800
the sun rose and sat on him.
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01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.239
He looked like he was a very healthy man.
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01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:02.199
Didn't know he had a weak heart, and he died
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01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:04.960
of a massive heart attack when he was only thirty
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01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:05.840
three years old.
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01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:07.559
And I was ten years.
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01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:13.400
Old, and I was devastated, and didn't you hold on
1006
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:14.320
for just a second.
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01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:18.960
I seem to be getting feedback for Mike for some reason.
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01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:21.760
Now I'm trying to make it a little better.
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01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:25.719
Okay, we're not hearing it. We're not hearing it on Orion.
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01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:29.159
But I think one of these things have to be
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01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:29.920
turned off.
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01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.800
The joys of broadcasting. Hear me, Yes, sir, here, you're.
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01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.559
Fine, Okay, thank you.
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01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:38.679
You're still getting your echo.
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01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.840
Yeah, I'm still getting some feedback. See if I can
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01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:49.360
adjustice a little bit. Okay, Okay, I guess that's probably
1017
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:50.800
the best it's going to be.
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01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:55.320
I can hear myself make it a little bit strange.
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01:02:58.639 --> 01:02:59.960
But the thing is that.
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01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:05.239
One of the things that I was fortunate about is
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01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:07.519
that my father left me with a lot of gifts,
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01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:10.280
and one of those gifts.
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01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:12.039
Was a love of reading.
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01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:18.679
And when I was eleven, after he passed away, I
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01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.199
came across the book that changed my life.
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01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:23.559
It was H. G.
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01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:31.280
Wells, The Time Machine, and it said that scientific people
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01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:35.760
know very well that time is just the kind of space,
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01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.599
and we can move forward and backward in time just
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01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:43.440
as we can in space. And when I read that,
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01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.159
I thought this is wonderful, because if I could travel
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01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:50.599
back in time, I could see him again and maybe
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01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:54.920
save his life. And so that became the inspiration for me.
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01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:58.280
And in fact I even tried to put something together,
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01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:02.880
and it turned out that it didn't work, of course,
1036
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:09.239
but remembered I said, scientific people know very well, and
1037
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:13.519
so I knew that if I could understand how science
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01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:16.960
played a rule, that might be something that would help
1039
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.320
me to build a time machine.
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01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:21.719
In a couple of years about that.
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01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:24.079
When I was about twelve or thirteen, I came to
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01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:29.960
craze the second book that changed my life. I found
1043
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:35.519
it in a Salvation Army bookstore. It had a picture
1044
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:41.079
of Einstein next to a large hour glass.
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01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:43.000
And I knew that.
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01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:46.960
I knew Einstein was this great genius. I didn't know
1047
01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:49.440
what he had done, but I knew he was a
1048
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.199
great genius. And I thought if I could understand what
1049
01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:56.000
he did, then maybe that could help.
1050
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.440
Me build a time machine.
1051
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:01.480
And later I did learn and that Einstein said that
1052
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:06.719
unlike the old physics of Newton, we could time is flexible.
1053
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:11.960
There are ways you can't alter time. And so that
1054
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:15.199
was the beginning of my journey. I should mention after
1055
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:20.639
my father passed away, we were very poor. In fact,
1056
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:25.599
I would say we came close to property. And when
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01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.119
my father was alive, I used to have an alliance,
1058
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:31.599
but after he passed away that didn't happen. I had
1059
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:35.599
to go to the junkyard and sell things in order
1060
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:40.079
to get enough money to go buy books. And I
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01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:42.320
went to the Salvation Army and as I said, I
1062
01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:46.239
found this one book. Now I knew I was going
1063
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:49.039
to have to go to college in order to really
1064
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:52.000
understand what Einstein did.
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01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:54.960
But since we were poor, I decided to go into
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01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:59.559
the Air Force during the Vietnam War period, and that's
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01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:01.119
when I eventually.
1068
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:06.440
Use the gi Bill to go to Penn State and
1069
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:12.719
master physics. And it turns out that Einstein's theory really
1070
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:15.199
does lead to the possibility.
1071
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:15.360
Of time travel.
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01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:21.360
In your study of everything involving that, have you come
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01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:27.119
close yet to actually building one or is it still
1074
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:28.519
a work in progress?
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01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:34.159
Well, it's still a work of progress. I should mention
1076
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:38.960
that a fact. I should say why we believe that
1077
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:44.599
Einstein's theory leads to the possibility of time travel. Einsteins
1078
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:49.599
developed two theories. One was called a special theory of relativity,
1079
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:55.760
and in that theory it says that time can be
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01:06:55.880 --> 01:07:01.880
affected by speed. The faster we move, the more time
1081
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.719
slows down. And you have to remember when I talk
1082
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:09.519
about time slowing down for a clock, your heart is
1083
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:15.800
a clock, and you move fast enough, according to Einstein,
1084
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.559
you wouldn't notice it. But someone who's watching you, they
1085
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:23.599
would see your heart rates slow down, and your metabolism
1086
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:24.360
would slow down.
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01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:25.039
You would not.
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01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:30.480
Age as the same way that everyone else is. But
1089
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.559
what this means is that, for example, if you were
1090
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.920
traveling in a rocket fast enough, time would slowed down
1091
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.519
for you to such an extent that if you were
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01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.880
traveling out to a distant star, let's say that was
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01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.480
twenty five light years away from us.
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01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:50.320
For someone here on Earth, it would seem as though.
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01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:53.280
It take you twenty five years to go out and
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01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:57.400
twenty five years to come back, So fifty years but
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01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:01.880
for you, because time is slow down and they've only
1098
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:06.199
taken about ten years, so when you come back, only
1099
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:08.920
ten years will have passed for you, for fifty years
1100
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:10.639
will have passed for everyone else.
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01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:12.039
That's what, in.
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01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:17.680
Fact, you see in scientific scientific movies are as, you'd say,
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01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:26.680
not scientific movies, but science fiction movies, that time actually
1104
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:32.239
is changing and that effect really happens. And you might say,
1105
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:35.920
when did we see that? Well, an experiment was done
1106
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:41.079
using ordinary passenger jets and one of these I'm sorry,
1107
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:47.399
ordinary passenger planes whenever they send a plane out, and
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01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:52.439
I'm sorry, this feedback effect is really becoming distracted.
1109
01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:57.039
Okay, is it looks like you're logged in on a
1110
01:08:57.199 --> 01:08:59.279
phone and possibly a computer.
1111
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:02.960
Yeah, maybe let me see if I've turned off the phone.
1112
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:06.319
If that does, if that makes a difference, can you
1113
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:06.920
still hear me?
1114
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:09.680
Yes, sir? Does that hill? That is?
1115
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:09.880
What?
1116
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:13.560
Did it? Okay? Yeah, thank you, no no worries?
1117
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:18.439
Yeah, okay, now great, because it was really.
1118
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.199
Yes, I've had I've had feedback before for an entire
1119
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:26.640
podcast that just drove me absolutely nuts.
1120
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:32.760
Yeah, but thank you. Okay, Now I can concentrate on
1121
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:33.520
what I'm saying.
1122
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:39.039
Uh that was funny, but uh, I was saying that
1123
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:41.600
there was an experiment, a real experiment, that was done
1124
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:45.680
at the Naval Observatory. What they did was they took uh,
1125
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.279
two atomic clocks. They kept one of the clocks at
1126
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:52.600
recipe of observatory, and they put the other one on
1127
01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:56.479
an ordinary passenger plane, and they flew the passenger plane
1128
01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:59.880
around at the speed of sound. When they brought it back,
1129
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:02.199
they found that the clock that had been on the
1130
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:07.039
passenger jet had actually slowed down compared to the clock
1131
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:09.680
that had been arrested at the Naval Observatory.
1132
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:11.520
What this means is.
1133
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:18.680
That those scientists were actually a little younger than their
1134
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:22.560
counterparts that had been at rested in naval observatory. Now,
1135
01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:25.880
you might say, how come this effect wasn't mentioned on
1136
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:28.880
front page of the New York Times. That's because of
1137
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.520
the fact that even though the plane was traveling that
1138
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:35.439
the speed of sound that was slow compared to the
1139
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:39.039
speed of light, and so it can only be measured
1140
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:43.079
by atomic clocks. The effect is dramatic. The faster you
1141
01:10:43.159 --> 01:10:48.239
travel through space, the more time slows down. So once
1142
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:50.439
we have rockets that can go close to the speed
1143
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:54.279
of light, we'll actually see the effect dramatically. That is
1144
01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:57.079
to say that people going out in space maybe and
1145
01:10:57.119 --> 01:11:00.600
when a few years will have passed for them, decades
1146
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:04.119
could have passed here on the Earth. So we actually
1147
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:07.720
see the baby steps of that, and it's more dramatically.
1148
01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:10.840
We see the device that's called the Large Hadron Collider
1149
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:15.199
at CIRIN, Switzerland. They have subatomic particles that they speed
1150
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:17.880
up close to the speed of light, and what they
1151
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:22.239
find is that some of these particles, normally they don't
1152
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:27.199
live very long, they completely decay okay into energy. But
1153
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:30.560
sometimes if they speed these particles up close to the
1154
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.000
speed of light, what they find is that their internal
1155
01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:36.479
clock will actually slow down. Then these particles will live ten,
1156
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:40.760
twenty thirty times longer than they normally would. So these
1157
01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:44.640
particles are actually routinely sent into the future. So we
1158
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:47.760
know that time travel to the future is more than
1159
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:48.520
science fiction.
1160
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:51.399
It's real, and as I said, we'll see.
1161
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:54.079
It dramatically when we have rockets that can go travel
1162
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:57.600
close to the speed of light. Now it turns out
1163
01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:03.119
that we can even see theoretically have the possibility of
1164
01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:08.000
going back in time with Einstein's second theory. His first theory,
1165
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.199
which as I said, it's called the special theory of relativity,
1166
01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:16.039
was constructed in nineteen oh five. His second theory, which
1167
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:21.600
he constructed in nineteen fifteen, said that time is affected
1168
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:26.039
by gravity. What he meant by that is that gravity
1169
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:30.520
will actually cause clocks to run slower. And what do
1170
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:33.880
I mean by that? What Einstein said is that clocks
1171
01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:37.560
here at the surface of the Earth, where gravity is strong,
1172
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:41.800
those clocks will actually run slower than clocks at a
1173
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.760
high altitude. Now, once again you might say, wait a minute,
1174
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:48.720
has that been shown. Not only has it been shown,
1175
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:52.520
but it's part of our everyday life. I know that
1176
01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:56.079
probably you. I know I have a GPS system in
1177
01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:58.720
my car. Oh yes, And it turns out that the
1178
01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:02.359
GPS system works because of Einstein's theory. Now why do
1179
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:06.279
I say that, Well, here's the way the GPS system works.
1180
01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:12.119
The unit in your car has a clock in it.
1181
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:16.880
The satellites that send a signal to your unit have
1182
01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:23.479
clocks on them. And the way there's a relationship between speed, distance,
1183
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.399
and time. If you know any two of those, you
1184
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:31.000
can calculate the other. That is to say that if
1185
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:34.399
I know the time the signal was sent the time
1186
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.760
is received, and I know the speed of the signal,
1187
01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:42.319
I can actually compute distance. So the way it works
1188
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.520
is that the satellites above the Earth, out in space,
1189
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:50.079
those signals send a signal at a certain time that
1190
01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:53.680
reaches your unit at a certain time, and the speed
1191
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:58.560
of that signal is the speed of light. So that
1192
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:03.880
using that you can actually compute the distances on Earth.
1193
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:08.399
Now, when they were setting up the system, they assumed.
1194
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:14.119
That time was not affected by anything, okay, and according
1195
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:18.560
to Newton, time is not affected by anything. So the
1196
01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:21.880
assumption was is that the unit in your clock and
1197
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:26.399
your car is actually ticking at the same rate as
1198
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:27.479
the units.
1199
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:29.720
On the satellite.
1200
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:32.279
And so when they set up the system for that,
1201
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it was giving wrong distances. It was actually not working properly.
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01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:42.319
What they realized is that, according to Einstein, the unit
1203
01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:45.279
in your car, because it's close to the surface of
1204
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:49.399
the Earth where gravity is strong, that your clock is
1205
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:53.119
actually ticking a little slower than the clocks on board
1206
01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:57.840
the satellites. They are actually ticking faster okay, where gravity
1207
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:03.119
is weaker have to be used to take that into account.
1208
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:06.920
So this is a real effect, and the system was
1209
01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:09.520
working perfectly. In fact, I say that when every time
1210
01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:13.520
you use your GPS system, I give a silent nod
1211
01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:17.840
to Einstein, because if we hadn't used his theory, which
1212
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:22.000
says that time is affected by gravity, then it wouldn't
1213
01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:23.079
be working properly.
1214
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:30.439
The thing is is that is important because that means that.
1215
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.560
If you can use gravity in a certain way, if
1216
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:39.199
you can create a special type of gravitational feel that
1217
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:44.800
is to say, the Earth rotates, So gravity is not
1218
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:51.439
just simply affected distances, but gravity is affecting time. And
1219
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:56.000
if the Earth is rotating, you can actually cause time
1220
01:15:56.079 --> 01:16:00.239
to become twisted. And how is this going to lead
1221
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:02.439
to time travel to the past? Let me give you
1222
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:06.520
an example. Suppose that you have a strip of paper
1223
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:10.560
right in front of you right now, and suppose that
1224
01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:15.640
you draw a straight line on that paper. Okay, and
1225
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:19.960
at the bottom of that line you put yesterday. At
1226
01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:22.680
the middle of that line you put today, and at
1227
01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:24.600
the top of the line you put tomorrow.
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01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:25.439
Okay.
1229
01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:36.359
Now imagine that you twist that line into a loop. Okay,
1230
01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:38.800
so you connect the top of the line to the
1231
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.680
bottom of the line, so you can start from yesterday,
1232
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:45.960
you can go to today, and you can continue to
1233
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:50.039
go to tomorrow. But remember I've laid that made that
1234
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:53.760
strip of paper into a loop, so I can actually
1235
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:58.399
go from tomorrow back into the past. So by twisting
1236
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:01.600
time into a loop, I can go back into the past.
1237
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.279
And in Einstein's theory, what that means is that if
1238
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:11.560
I can twist space using gravity, then I can actually
1239
01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:14.279
twist time into a loop and I could go back
1240
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:18.119
into the past. We have we haven't been able to
1241
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:23.640
show that experimentally yet, but Einstein's theory says it is
1242
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:28.359
possible to use gravity to twist time into a loop.
1243
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.199
And that's where my work comes in. Okay, what I've
1244
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:37.720
been able to show is that, according to Einstein, light
1245
01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:43.960
can create gravity and gravity can affect time. So if
1246
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:48.279
I create a circulating beam of light, I can create
1247
01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:53.600
a twisting gravitational field and I can twist time into
1248
01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:57.079
a loop. Now you might say, oh, wait a minute,
1249
01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.239
is this possible. There is a real device that's call
1250
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:03.840
a ring laser, in which you can bounce a laser.
1251
01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:06.039
Beam around into a loop.
1252
01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:10.520
And if you do that, what I've been able to
1253
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:15.880
show mathematically is that you can actually cause space to
1254
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:19.279
become twisted. You can cause time to become twisted into
1255
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:23.119
a loop, and so theoretically you could go back into
1256
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:27.800
the past. Now it's a lot to take to absorb,
1257
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:31.439
but that's what I've been able to show mathematically based
1258
01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:35.159
on Einstein's theories. Now you were asking the question, have
1259
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:38.359
have I been able to do that experimentally?
1260
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:40.359
Not yet? Why?
1261
01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:45.960
Because the fact that, like most things, these experiments cost money.
1262
01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:50.399
Doing the mathematics with something I could just simply do
1263
01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:54.399
in my head and I publish that, but as far
1264
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:57.399
as doing the experiments, they're very, very expensive.
1265
01:18:57.479 --> 01:18:59.479
So hopefully eventually.
1266
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:02.760
We will get the funding that we need in order
1267
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:08.000
to do the experiments. But theoretically time traveled to the
1268
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:11.920
past is possible, And as I said, we've shown it
1269
01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:15.760
physically into the future, but eventually we will be able
1270
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:19.319
to do it into the past. But it hasn't happened yet.
1271
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:24.000
How does your approach differ from the study of like
1272
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.119
wormholes are quantum retrocausalities?
1273
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:32.560
Good question in fact, because the thing is is that
1274
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:37.920
from Einstein's theory. It turns out that objects, for example,
1275
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:42.439
black holes rotating black holes could actually twist space and
1276
01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.640
time into a loop, and wormholes you could actually use
1277
01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:48.720
wormholes to go back into the past. Those are both
1278
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:54.000
possibilities in my work. What makes a difference is is
1279
01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:58.439
my prediction that you could use light laser beams to
1280
01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:02.720
cause the twisting of space some time. So that's the difference.
1281
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:04.920
So if you wanted to say, the difference is that
1282
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:07.800
black holes can do it, wormholes can do it, and
1283
01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:15.079
I theoretically was able to show that mathematically that light.
1284
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:16.560
Laser beams can do it.
1285
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.359
So essentially what I was able to do was to
1286
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:23.039
show that you could have a laser generated time machine.
1287
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:27.159
We've had other like Andrew Pasagio. I'm sure you're familiar
1288
01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:32.279
with him, supposedly traveling back in time with government experiments.
1289
01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:33.399
Are you familiar with that?
1290
01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:38.479
No, No, not really, But here's you know.
1291
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:42.680
One of the things that I think it's important to
1292
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:48.079
realize is that physics is an experimental subject. Einstein came
1293
01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:52.279
up with the famous equation equals mc square, which every
1294
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:54.520
school child was heard of.
1295
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:56.520
That equation says.
1296
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.159
That a little bit of mass can be lead to
1297
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:05.199
an enormous amount of energy, excuse me, and that was
1298
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:11.640
shown theoretically by Einstein. The equation was shown in practical
1299
01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:15.560
terms the first time, it should say, in terms of
1300
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:20.079
the Manhattan Project, which led to the atomic bomb, where
1301
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:24.119
there was a process that was called vision in which
1302
01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:28.439
atoms were split and that led to an enormous amount
1303
01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:31.680
of energy. So it's one thing to simply say that
1304
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:34.760
you've done something, and the other is to prove it experimentally.
1305
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:38.600
What I tell people is, let's come back to time travel.
1306
01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:42.159
Two things that are involved there. Number one, you have
1307
01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:46.720
to have a device that does this. Okay. That means
1308
01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:50.520
that if you turn the device on, it begins to
1309
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:54.560
create the process that you're looking at that will cause
1310
01:21:54.600 --> 01:22:00.119
time travel to occur. So if someone says that they
1311
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:07.000
have been able to travel through time, I tell people that, okay.
1312
01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:09.720
The thing that one has to say is is that
1313
01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:13.920
show me the device that was used in order to
1314
01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:18.000
do that. And when you do that, you have to
1315
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:21.239
have the physics community. You have to be able to
1316
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:23.319
show it. In other words, you can't just simply say
1317
01:22:23.399 --> 01:22:25.720
you've done it. You actually have to be able to
1318
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:31.800
demonstrate it publicly. That's extremely important. Whenever we develop new theories,
1319
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:36.199
we have to demonstrate to our colleagues, and it could
1320
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:39.840
be seen by the general public too, but essentially by
1321
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:43.359
our colleagues they can verify that it actually is done.
1322
01:22:44.119 --> 01:22:48.439
And I have to say that I know of no
1323
01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:54.319
experiment that has As I mentioned to you already, there
1324
01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:58.000
is specific experiments which show time travel to the future.
1325
01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:02.760
I know of no real experiment that has demonstrated time
1326
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:05.880
traveled to the past that has been verified by the
1327
01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:13.279
general scientific public. So unless that has happened, that is
1328
01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:17.000
extremely important. And I don't know that that has been done.
1329
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:20.119
As I said, it has not been generated to the
1330
01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:23.800
scientific community at all, as far as I know.
1331
01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:29.479
In your study, have you addressed paradoxes such as grandfather paradox?
1332
01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:34.079
That is a very good question. The grandfather paradox is
1333
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:40.359
a very important issue. Just to remind people generally what
1334
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:44.439
the grandfather paradox says is that I'll use an example.
1335
01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:46.920
Suppose that you go back into the past to prevent
1336
01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:50.840
your grandparents from meeting each other. That your grandparents don't
1337
01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:56.159
have your parents, your parents don't have you, and if
1338
01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:59.560
ya don't have you, which means you don't exist, then
1339
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.000
how did you go back into the past to prevent
1340
01:24:02.039 --> 01:24:06.279
your grandparents from meeting each other. That's called the grandfather paradox,
1341
01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.960
and that is an important issue. It turns out that
1342
01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:14.880
physics addresses that possibility itself. Everything that I've been talking
1343
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:19.800
about so far has to do with relativity. There is
1344
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:25.800
another theory that is the other pillar of modern physics.
1345
01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:30.640
Modern physics stands on two major pillars. One is relativity,
1346
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:34.880
the other is quantum theory. Relativity talks about space and time.
1347
01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:42.640
Relativity talks about matter and energy, and quantum theory is very,
1348
01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:46.239
very strange. In some ways, it's even stranger than relativity.
1349
01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:51.840
What quantum mechanics says is that you cannot make predictions
1350
01:24:52.319 --> 01:24:56.119
of things exactly of what's going to happen, but only
1351
01:24:56.159 --> 01:25:01.119
the probability of what's going to happen. And you could
1352
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:03.840
actually say that if you know a certain amount of information.
1353
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:08.000
For example, if you know exactly the speed and the
1354
01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:11.479
location of a particle initially, you can make an exact
1355
01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:15.880
prediction of what it's going to be doing later. But
1356
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.560
in terms of there's a principle that's called the uncertainty
1357
01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:24.039
principle in quantum mechanics, which says that even if You
1358
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:29.720
cannot know exactly the position and velocity of an object
1359
01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:33.319
at an instant of time. You can only talk about
1360
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:38.520
within a certain range, which means you can never predict exactly.
1361
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:42.319
It would be a weird sort of baseball game in
1362
01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:46.840
which you would you could know you could when you're
1363
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:50.600
starting out to throw an object, you can only talk
1364
01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:54.359
about the probability that it's going to get to the batter.
1365
01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:58.840
There's a probability that it could end up anywhere. Okay,
1366
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:04.479
this is a very strange prediction associated with quantum mechanics.
1367
01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:08.279
This notion that you can only talk about the probability
1368
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:12.760
of something happening leads to a very very weird situation.
1369
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:16.880
In fact, this was extrapolated to the universe as a whole.
1370
01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:20.760
There was a physicist back in the nineteen fifties named
1371
01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:25.079
Hugh Everett the Third who applied quantum mechanics to the
1372
01:26:25.199 --> 01:26:28.000
universe as a whole. And what he did was he
1373
01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:31.920
found out that there's a very strange prediction that comes
1374
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:32.359
from that.
1375
01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:34.000
Suppose that.
1376
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:39.520
Later on tomorrow you were going to the restaurant, and
1377
01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:43.560
let's suppose that you looked at a menu and you
1378
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:47.479
saw item A and item B on the menu. And
1379
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.600
let's suppose that you decided to have item B from
1380
01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:55.800
the menu. Then, according to quantum theory, there is a
1381
01:26:55.960 --> 01:27:00.279
split of the universe. As weird as the sounds, don't
1382
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:04.119
notice the split, but it occurs. There is now a
1383
01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:09.920
separate universe in which you have actually chosen item are.
1384
01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:12.119
So there's two univers's.
1385
01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:16.359
One universe you've chosen item B and the other universe
1386
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:17.560
you've chosen item A.
1387
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:21.159
This is known as the.
1388
01:27:21.079 --> 01:27:25.439
Many world's interpretation, what we know the popular way in
1389
01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:30.720
which is called it's called a parallel universe interpretation. So
1390
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:35.760
quantum theory leads to the possibility that for every possible decision,
1391
01:27:36.039 --> 01:27:42.039
or for every possibility that occurs, there's also the opposite
1392
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:42.319
of that.
1393
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.560
Okay, So it's as strange as it sounds.
1394
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:49.000
This means that each of us, when we make a
1395
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:53.640
decision about what we want to do, whether, for example,
1396
01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:57.920
going to a particular movie, we do go to that
1397
01:27:58.039 --> 01:28:01.359
movie in one universe, and in the other universe we
1398
01:28:01.479 --> 01:28:02.960
decide to do something else.
1399
01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:03.960
Okay, as I.
1400
01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:09.359
Said, this is weird, but this is actually possibility on
1401
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:13.199
the basis of quantum theory. So this notion of parallel universes,
1402
01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:17.920
which people have heard of is based on quantum theory. Now,
1403
01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:21.600
how does that affect time travel? Well, the thing is
1404
01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:26.840
is that there's a physicist name David Deutsch at Oxford
1405
01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:33.000
University in England who applied time travel to the notion
1406
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:34.399
of parallel universes.
1407
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:36.960
And what he found is that when you travel back.
1408
01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:40.239
To the past, as soon as you arrive in the past,
1409
01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:44.520
there's a split of the universe. There's a universe in
1410
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:49.600
which you arrived in a parallel universe in which you
1411
01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:53.000
weren't born in that universe. So when you come to
1412
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:57.680
that universe, you could prevent your grandparents from meeting each other.
1413
01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:03.199
They don't have your parents and your parents don't have you.
1414
01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:06.600
But that doesn't lead to a problem because you were
1415
01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:09.479
never born in a universe. You would just find yourself
1416
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:12.119
in a universe in which you were never born. Remember
1417
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.640
I said there was a split of it. So when
1418
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:19.239
you arrived in the past, you arrived just in the
1419
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:22.880
parallel universe, but the other universe you don't arrive in.
1420
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:27.439
In that universe, your grandparents do meet each other, have
1421
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:32.439
your parents and have you, and that's you know, happens.
1422
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:36.479
So what it's so what Deutsche found out is that
1423
01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:40.000
you can travel back to the past, but the past
1424
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:43.680
you arrive in it's not the past that you came from,
1425
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:49.680
So there's no a paradox because you can't affect time
1426
01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:53.920
into the past. So essentially traveling to the past would
1427
01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:56.560
mean that you're just ending up in another universe which
1428
01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:59.159
would look very much like the universe you came from,
1429
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:02.399
but you wouldn't be able to affect the original universe
1430
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:03.039
that you came from.
1431
01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:06.399
Now you might say, has that been shown? Of course
1432
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:07.359
not yet.
1433
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:10.640
But what it says is that we won't know if
1434
01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:13.039
that's the way in which the universe works until we
1435
01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:14.520
actually do the experiment.
1436
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:18.439
So, uh, who knows.
1437
01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:20.399
Star Trek likes to use that one.
1438
01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:26.359
Oh, yeah, absolutely, you know so, I mean, and it
1439
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:30.199
is fun to play with these ideas to you know,
1440
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:32.399
to look at the real possibilities.
1441
01:30:32.479 --> 01:30:32.840
I said.
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01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:36.600
However, to me, the important thing is to realize that
1443
01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:41.359
Einstein did open up the way for us to actually
1444
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:45.640
try to travel back into the past. Now it turns
1445
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:51.399
out that perhaps the universe really does operate in a
1446
01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:55.680
very weird way in which we do end up with paradoxes.
1447
01:30:57.640 --> 01:30:59.000
One of the scenes, you know, one.
1448
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:01.359
Of my favorite time tracks movies, and I should mention
1449
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:04.720
I'm a big fan of science fiction of time travel
1450
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:09.279
as well, even though it's mostly doesn't isn't based on
1451
01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:12.560
the reality. But one of my favorite movies is Back
1452
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:17.479
to the Future. That's really one of my favorite movies.
1453
01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:22.640
But you cannot go back to the past using a delaureate. Okay,
1454
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:25.920
as much fun as that is, that that doesn't work.
1455
01:31:26.479 --> 01:31:28.159
But even when you get back.
1456
01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:30.199
One of the things that they have as a scene
1457
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:33.920
in which Martin McFly his mother falls in love with him,
1458
01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:40.520
and so as that's happening, he begins to disappear. And
1459
01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:44.439
so you know, perhaps the universe does operate in a
1460
01:31:44.479 --> 01:31:46.600
way in which when you try to go back into
1461
01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:51.640
the past into your universe, something does strange happens to
1462
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:56.319
try to prevent that from happening, or you just essentially
1463
01:31:56.359 --> 01:32:00.600
seek to exist. So it's going to be interesting to see,
1464
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:03.920
you know, what's going to happen. Another issue that comes
1465
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:08.199
up is the issue of traveling back, and this happens
1466
01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:10.640
for traveling back to the past, not for traveling back
1467
01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.960
to the future. But another movie. Sometimes people ask me
1468
01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:18.399
about when we do have time travel to the past,
1469
01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:22.520
we hope that it will be used for good, but
1470
01:32:22.960 --> 01:32:26.239
we do have to realize that it can be used
1471
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:30.840
other ways. Because the thing is is that certainly, if
1472
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:34.239
governments have the possibility of traveling back into the past,
1473
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:40.199
one can easily see that it may not be it
1474
01:32:40.199 --> 01:32:43.760
may be something that needs to be regulated. Time travel
1475
01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:46.479
is going to have to be regulated. It's not going
1476
01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:46.800
to have.
1477
01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:47.199
To be and.
1478
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:53.119
Since time travel is going to require expensive equipment to
1479
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:55.720
create in the first place, it's not going to be
1480
01:32:55.720 --> 01:32:59.199
something that's going to be created by for every individual.
1481
01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:01.840
It's not going to have wrong time machine, just like
1482
01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:04.920
every home does not have its own nuclear reactor.
1483
01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:07.880
Okay, well that would be a good thing, so.
1484
01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:11.880
Right exactly, you know, but there is going to have
1485
01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:15.800
to be regulation. One of my other favorite movies that.
1486
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:16.520
Has to do with.
1487
01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:21.880
The abuses of time travel is called Time cop. I
1488
01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:23.359
don't know if you've ever seen that one.
1489
01:33:23.439 --> 01:33:25.159
Yes, yeah, it's.
1490
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:28.199
With Claude van Damp, But it also talks about the
1491
01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:30.680
fact that they actually have set up a police force
1492
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:35.479
that tries to monitor and prevent.
1493
01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:39.319
Time travel, you know, abuses.
1494
01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:42.279
I've seen one too, a movie I forget the name
1495
01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:43.920
of it and the actor that was in it, but
1496
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:47.680
it was like that an officer went back in time
1497
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:52.760
to prevent a patient zero for a major pandemic. I'm
1498
01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:55.319
not sure if you're familiar with that movie now, and
1499
01:33:55.479 --> 01:33:58.319
come to find out, he was the one that actually
1500
01:33:58.359 --> 01:34:01.079
started the pandemic from going back.
1501
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:07.880
Yeah, there's a movie that It was actually a series
1502
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:11.720
like that was. I'm trying to remember what it was
1503
01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:16.039
Outer Limits had. It was different, but it had a
1504
01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:19.800
theme that was similar to what you're saying. It was
1505
01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:22.199
the Man Who Never Was. I don't know if you've
1506
01:34:22.199 --> 01:34:26.039
ever seen or you're familiar without the old series of
1507
01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:27.760
Outer Limits, but.
1508
01:34:29.199 --> 01:34:32.960
They had essentially the same theme.
1509
01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:38.199
That was associated with it, and I think was trying
1510
01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:44.079
to remember. Essentially what happened is is that there was
1511
01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:53.239
ah that was it. What they did was they time
1512
01:34:53.319 --> 01:34:58.720
traveler went into the future, or should say an astronaut
1513
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:05.439
you know, went through a time warp and ended back
1514
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:09.800
on the Earth in a future time. And what they
1515
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:12.960
found was is that when he arrived in the future
1516
01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:18.920
of the Earth, it was decimated and he finds some
1517
01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:23.920
distorted human beings someone who's actually alive in that time.
1518
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:27.920
But the reason why the Earth is decimated was because
1519
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:35.199
the fact that some scientists and the astronauts past had
1520
01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:40.479
created a virus that essentially had decimated the Earth, and
1521
01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:46.159
so when he arrives in the future, he's convinced by
1522
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:48.880
the person in the future that they should go back
1523
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:53.880
to the past and prevent that scientist from creating that virus,
1524
01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:57.560
and they do. But when he goes back into the
1525
01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:02.840
past to do that is his future, and so the
1526
01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:08.600
person who was affected by the virus he disappears because
1527
01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:13.880
his whole timeline has changed. So that was another way
1528
01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:16.439
in which you know, one has to be careful with
1529
01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:20.199
traveling back into the past, but that was led to
1530
01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:24.359
a good result. It wouldn't it be nice if someone
1531
01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:27.640
was able to go back and prevent COVID.
1532
01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:32.880
Yes, yes, I've had it myself. My daughter's had it
1533
01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:36.239
recently over the holidays actually, and also had to flu
1534
01:36:36.279 --> 01:36:37.079
at the same time.
1535
01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:38.119
So that was rough.
1536
01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:41.359
But you know, you're okay.
1537
01:36:41.479 --> 01:36:45.520
Now, do you think manipulating space time could have any
1538
01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:51.279
unintended consequences like creating singularities or destabilizing the cosmos?
1539
01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:57.479
I don't know about distabling the cosmos, but it here's
1540
01:36:57.920 --> 01:37:01.880
it's not easy to go back into the past. It's
1541
01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:06.560
actually a lot easier to travel into the future. I
1542
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:09.800
don't know what the effect would be of going back
1543
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:12.439
into the past. I mean, so I don't know that
1544
01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:15.560
I could answer that question. In Einstein's theory, it doesn't
1545
01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:20.359
lead to mathematically, it doesn't lead to a problem.
1546
01:37:21.279 --> 01:37:26.600
But I don't know. I mean, it shouldn't, you know.
1547
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:30.840
As I said, it's.
1548
01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:34.720
Funny because when it came to the atomic bomb, one
1549
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:40.199
of the questions that scientists actually were worried about is
1550
01:37:40.199 --> 01:37:45.560
that whenever they caused the process of vision, you know,
1551
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:48.279
with the splitting of the atom, that the energy that
1552
01:37:48.439 --> 01:37:51.720
was given off might be so much that it could
1553
01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:57.239
cause fusion, that is to say, hydrogen. You know, the
1554
01:37:57.279 --> 01:38:02.640
way which fusion works is if you bring two atoms together,
1555
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:08.119
two protons together to create another element, for example, hydrogen.
1556
01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:11.840
If you bring hydrogen together, you can create helium and
1557
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:15.279
energy is given off to that process that's called fusion.
1558
01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:18.520
And they thought that there was actually a probability, believe
1559
01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:21.960
it or not, this was not known publicly at the time,
1560
01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:26.439
that whenever they let off the first atomic bomb, that
1561
01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:30.840
it might lead this vision could lead to fusion, and
1562
01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:34.960
that it might in fact ignite the atmosphere of the Earth.
1563
01:38:35.199 --> 01:38:38.840
And essentially turn the destroy the Earth. There was actually
1564
01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:43.560
a finite probability that that could happen, so it didn't.
1565
01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:47.680
So what I'm saying is is that we don't know
1566
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:50.000
what's going to happen until we do the experiment, But
1567
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:53.960
at least theoretically, it doesn't appear that it should lead
1568
01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:54.319
to a.
1569
01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:57.960
Catastrophe in the layout. What would you use to check
1570
01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:00.520
your theories? I mean, when something like that a hard
1571
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:01.479
on collider, And.
1572
01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:04.119
That's a very very good question.
1573
01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:07.600
One of the ways in which one would do it
1574
01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:13.159
in a practical way is that it turns out that
1575
01:39:13.640 --> 01:39:17.560
one way is that fact that elements have a certain
1576
01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:18.960
half life.
1577
01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.399
That is to say that they decay and.
1578
01:39:22.920 --> 01:39:29.159
You know, essentially decay into other products atomic products. This
1579
01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:32.319
happens at a certain amount of time, and that time
1580
01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:33.520
seems to be fixed.
1581
01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:38.079
The question is is that if you could actually.
1582
01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:43.560
And remember I said that certain subatomic particles they have
1583
01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:47.159
a normal lifetime and that if you speed them up,
1584
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:52.159
that lifetime can actually be longer than it normally would be.
1585
01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:56.319
So suppose that I was able to.
1586
01:39:55.439 --> 01:39:59.439
Send something back into the past, then I could actually
1587
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:04.119
show that that lifetime will actually be shorter than it
1588
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:09.199
normally would be. So you could actually change the rate
1589
01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:16.479
of decay of elements so that the rate would actually change,
1590
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:19.159
And why would should it be shorter than it would
1591
01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:23.720
be normally. Let's suppose that you traveled back into the
1592
01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:28.079
past and you stayed in the past. Now you are
1593
01:40:28.119 --> 01:40:30.119
a certain ay when you go back into the past,
1594
01:40:30.239 --> 01:40:36.199
you don't age. You age in a normal way when
1595
01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:39.039
you go back into the past. But if you stay
1596
01:40:39.039 --> 01:40:44.319
in the past, then once you come back to the present,
1597
01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:48.760
you will actually be older than you would have been
1598
01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:53.359
if you had stayed in the present. I know you
1599
01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:56.239
have to think about that what that means. But they
1600
01:40:56.359 --> 01:40:59.600
actually show that in one of the science fiction movies
1601
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:03.520
that came out not too long ago, where if someone
1602
01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:06.399
goes back into the past and stays in the past,
1603
01:41:07.199 --> 01:41:12.720
then people who encounter them later they will actually be
1604
01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:16.359
older than they would have been physically when they get
1605
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:21.680
back to their normal time. So you could actually change
1606
01:41:22.439 --> 01:41:26.399
the rate of the normal length of time.
1607
01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:27.399
A person would be.
1608
01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:31.079
They would actually become older than they normally would have
1609
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:34.000
been once they go back into the past and then
1610
01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:36.279
stay in the past and come back to.
1611
01:41:36.319 --> 01:41:39.199
Their normal time period. Does that make sense?
1612
01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:44.039
Yes, it does. Are you working with other physicists or
1613
01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:46.359
institutions to advanceure research.
1614
01:41:46.920 --> 01:41:47.399
Yeah.
1615
01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:50.239
Well, the thing is is that, yeah, I'm a theoretical physicist.
1616
01:41:50.279 --> 01:41:55.479
I should mention that in physics, unlike other disciplines, there's
1617
01:41:55.560 --> 01:42:00.399
a very, very much of a division of labor between
1618
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:04.399
theoretical physicists and experimental physicists. As I mentioned, I'm a
1619
01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:09.920
theoretical physicis I use equations and theoretical physics. Physicists use
1620
01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:18.000
equations to try to describe how nature works. Experimental physicists
1621
01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:24.479
actually create equipment to actually see how nature works, and
1622
01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:28.880
they work together. Sometimes physicists make for theoretical physicists make
1623
01:42:28.960 --> 01:42:35.199
predictions about how nature behaves that experimental physicists check those
1624
01:42:35.199 --> 01:42:37.199
predictions to see if that is the way in which
1625
01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:42.159
the universe really does behave I have a partner who
1626
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:47.399
his name is change Over Childry, and he's an experimental physicist.
1627
01:42:47.439 --> 01:42:50.920
His specialty is lasers, so he was particularly interested in
1628
01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:55.840
my prediction that you could use lasers to cause space and.
1629
01:42:55.840 --> 01:42:57.520
Time to become worked.
1630
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:05.399
Like me, I didn't require funding for my work, just
1631
01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:08.039
a lot of coffee and plenty of time to work
1632
01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:12.399
on it. Changer requires equipment and he had his own
1633
01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:16.840
projects going on, but he had worked with me to
1634
01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:19.880
In fact, there's a number of documentaries about my work
1635
01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:23.479
that are available. Some of them are on Amazon Prime
1636
01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:28.199
and some of them are YouTube. And what he did
1637
01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:32.960
was he created sort of toy models of how my
1638
01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:37.159
process would look if we had the funding for the
1639
01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:41.920
real process showing lasers, and how they would would look,
1640
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:47.159
how this process would look. And so what we're hoping
1641
01:43:47.399 --> 01:43:49.920
is that eventually we get the funding so that we
1642
01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:55.239
could do the real experiments that are going to be so, yes,
1643
01:43:55.880 --> 01:43:59.920
definitely have someone who's a partner who has interested in
1644
01:44:01.439 --> 01:44:06.760
actually showing My prediction is real that circulating being of
1645
01:44:06.840 --> 01:44:10.760
light will cause a twisting of space and time, but
1646
01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:11.520
so far.
1647
01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:12.680
We haven't gotten that.
1648
01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:16.079
And I don't ask the general public, by the way,
1649
01:44:16.239 --> 01:44:18.800
for the funding, because this is not something.
1650
01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:23.159
That you can do by have crowd funding or anything
1651
01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:23.399
at that.
1652
01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:28.319
This would require the sort of funding that deep pockets
1653
01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:34.079
of people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk. So what
1654
01:44:34.119 --> 01:44:37.680
I'm hoping is that eventually they might become interested in
1655
01:44:37.720 --> 01:44:40.920
my work. And as a side point about how that
1656
01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:44.720
might happen, I should mention that I've written a memoir
1657
01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:49.760
the book, it's called Time Traveler. The subtitle is a
1658
01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:55.039
scientists personal mission to make time Traveler reality. And the
1659
01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:59.039
book actually talks about my own particular journey, which has
1660
01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:01.600
been an interesting one. I don't know a lot of
1661
01:45:01.640 --> 01:45:05.000
your honest won't be able to see me, so they
1662
01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:09.199
won't know that I'm actually African American. And the thing
1663
01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:13.399
is is that there aren't as many African American physicists
1664
01:45:13.399 --> 01:45:17.479
and theoretical physicists. There's more than there was when I
1665
01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:21.159
first got into physics, but there's still not that many.
1666
01:45:22.119 --> 01:45:25.119
And it's been an interesting journey for me to get
1667
01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:30.800
where I am. And the book talks about my own
1668
01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:35.279
personal journey of becoming a physicist and a theoretical physicist,
1669
01:45:35.319 --> 01:45:38.880
but it also talks about the death of my father
1670
01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:41.720
and how that led to the work that I did
1671
01:45:41.800 --> 01:45:45.920
in my breakthrough. And it turns out that Hollywood has
1672
01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:50.000
become interested in that, and in fact, just recently this
1673
01:45:50.039 --> 01:45:55.439
has happened, just very recently. There's a producer, his name
1674
01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:59.479
is Tom Brittany, who's also an extremely well.
1675
01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:02.199
Known actor in the UK.
1676
01:46:03.039 --> 01:46:08.399
Is a program it's called Grantchester and Tom plays a
1677
01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:16.039
Ministers of Private detective in that he's a friend who's
1678
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:18.800
a real detective and it's sort of a Sherlock Homes
1679
01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:19.359
type of thing.
1680
01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.399
And Tom has a production company.
1681
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:30.960
Called Wellness Productions, and Tom became interested in making a
1682
01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:33.960
feature film of it, and so that's now in development.
1683
01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:40.399
So my memoir will become a feature film, Hollywood feature film.
1684
01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:44.600
I'm very proud of that. And what I personally hope
1685
01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:50.119
is that when the movie is made, it will be
1686
01:46:50.560 --> 01:46:53.479
a regular move Hollywood movie and that it will come
1687
01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:54.960
to the attention of.
1688
01:46:57.279 --> 01:46:59.800
Finance series with deep pockets who.
1689
01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:04.079
Say, look, we should actually get the funding for this
1690
01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:06.199
so that it can actually occur.
1691
01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:10.920
So that's what I hope will happen. As a realt
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01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:11.840
of the movie.
1693
01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:15.920
I'm sure if this time travel comes to be, you
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01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:18.880
want to go back and, like I say, visit your father.
1695
01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.680
But is there any other historical event you'd be interested
1696
01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:22.319
in seeing?
1697
01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:27.159
Well, of course, I mean, you know one would all
1698
01:47:27.239 --> 01:47:30.279
would like to go back to see what ancient Rome
1699
01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:36.479
really was like in ancient Greece, and that is something.
1700
01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:40.239
But I should mention that, at least from a.
1701
01:47:40.119 --> 01:47:45.319
Theoretical standpoint, it turns out that there may be a limitation.
1702
01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:48.800
Remember I was talking about the fact that when you
1703
01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:54.199
have a time machine, you have to realize that this
1704
01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:57.960
is a real device that creates loops and times, but
1705
01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:00.880
it starts creating these loops and time when you turn
1706
01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:01.840
the device on.
1707
01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:04.319
What does that mean?
1708
01:48:04.439 --> 01:48:06.920
That means that if I turn the device on today,
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01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:11.079
it will start to create these loops in time. And
1710
01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:14.399
so say I leave it on for ten years, and
1711
01:48:14.520 --> 01:48:20.000
someone ten years from now could send information back seven years,
1712
01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:21.960
five years, all the way back up to the time
1713
01:48:22.039 --> 01:48:25.159
machine was turned on. But there seems to be a
1714
01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:28.119
limitation that they may not be able to send information
1715
01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:31.920
back earlier than when the device is turned on. What
1716
01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:35.439
that means is is that I wouldn't be able to
1717
01:48:35.479 --> 01:48:38.560
go back and see my father again because of that,
1718
01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:43.439
and that is something that makes me a bit sad.
1719
01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:48.600
But it's maybe a reality of time traveled in the past,
1720
01:48:48.640 --> 01:48:52.840
which means that essentially, eventually we may not be able
1721
01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:58.800
to defend it visit or descended, I mean visit our ancestors,
1722
01:48:59.399 --> 01:49:04.439
but are sentence could visit us after the time machine
1723
01:49:04.760 --> 01:49:08.399
is invented. And also that comes back to the point
1724
01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:10.960
that I mentioned that as someone that claims that they've
1725
01:49:11.079 --> 01:49:15.680
actually traveled back through time, they can't just simply appear
1726
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:20.039
into nothing, okay, And otherwise they can't do for example,
1727
01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:27.880
like what happens in the Terminator where he comes back,
1728
01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:32.079
or Schwarzenegger just appears out of nowhere. He has to
1729
01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:39.039
have appeared in a device. But I will be able
1730
01:49:39.039 --> 01:49:40.960
to live with that if that turns out to be
1731
01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:43.800
because that means that future generations will be able to
1732
01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:47.279
control their destiny in a way that we can't, and
1733
01:49:47.359 --> 01:49:53.079
so that they will be able to prevent future pandemics
1734
01:49:53.159 --> 01:49:56.600
because they will be able to send information back to
1735
01:49:56.840 --> 01:50:01.279
a time when they have time traveled to the past possible,
1736
01:50:01.960 --> 01:50:04.800
and to prevent what we've gone through with things like
1737
01:50:04.920 --> 01:50:08.279
COVID and that for example, they will be able to
1738
01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:12.039
prevent tsunamis and earthquakes and things that take thousands of
1739
01:50:12.079 --> 01:50:16.039
lives away. So it will be important for us to
1740
01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:20.840
master time travel. But that does seem to be a limitation.
1741
01:50:21.319 --> 01:50:24.000
If you could go back and give your younger self advice,
1742
01:50:24.159 --> 01:50:26.239
what would you give good question.
1743
01:50:27.800 --> 01:50:30.000
I won't go into this into what you tell me
1744
01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:36.119
right now, because I should say that my professional life
1745
01:50:36.520 --> 01:50:39.960
has been exactly what I could have hoped it would be.
1746
01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:44.960
I love what has happened in my professional life.
1747
01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:49.439
There are things that have mistakes in my personal life,
1748
01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:55.119
and I would try to advise myself to take certain
1749
01:50:56.039 --> 01:50:59.960
changes in my personal life that I might not have done.
1750
01:51:01.279 --> 01:51:03.279
As I said, I a little.
1751
01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:08.439
Bit more forthcoming about a forthright about that in my memoir.
1752
01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:11.720
But in any case, I don't know.
1753
01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:17.760
So I'm sure that you can think about things like
1754
01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:21.199
that in your own life, you know. But as I said,
1755
01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:26.479
I would say to my personal professional life, I would say,
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01:51:26.520 --> 01:51:30.880
you know, enjoy it because it is it's it's been satisfied,
1757
01:51:31.159 --> 01:51:34.720
and it's been a great journey. And I have enjoyed
1758
01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:37.479
the aspects of that and the people that I've met
1759
01:51:37.560 --> 01:51:38.600
along the way.
1760
01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:39.479
In that journey.
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01:51:39.720 --> 01:51:42.039
I'm going to ask an off the wall question here,
1762
01:51:42.079 --> 01:51:44.880
but and it has no way of really knowing, but
1763
01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:49.600
do you feel that UFOs could be sightings of time travelers?
1764
01:51:50.079 --> 01:51:52.760
That's in fact that by the way you've been those
1765
01:51:52.960 --> 01:51:55.279
these have been great questions. But one of the things
1766
01:51:55.319 --> 01:52:00.159
this is that, yeah, you know, here one one of
1767
01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:04.119
the things that other that's known in physics right now
1768
01:52:05.039 --> 01:52:09.359
may have heard or what it's called extrasolar planets. You know,
1769
01:52:10.399 --> 01:52:14.159
there's always been speculation about the possibility of life in
1770
01:52:14.199 --> 01:52:19.520
the universe, but it hasn't been taken seriously in the
1771
01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:22.279
scientific community until the nineteen nineties.
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01:52:22.319 --> 01:52:23.079
And why is that.
1773
01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:27.600
It's because of the fact that we hadn't known until
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01:52:27.800 --> 01:52:32.359
the nineties that there are other planets that have solar
1775
01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:35.880
systems associated with them that are similar to our own.
1776
01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:39.119
In other words, that's why these are called extrasolar planets.
1777
01:52:39.119 --> 01:52:44.319
These are planets that are orbiting other stars. So when
1778
01:52:44.319 --> 01:52:49.319
we were able to actually observationally see these, this was
1779
01:52:49.359 --> 01:52:52.960
a major thing because what this meant is that now
1780
01:52:53.399 --> 01:52:56.800
it's clear that some of these planets are too close
1781
01:52:56.880 --> 01:53:01.840
to their suns to for life to occur. Are there
1782
01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:05.439
too far away from their suns for life to occur.
1783
01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:09.680
But there are a class of planets. In fact, physicists
1784
01:53:09.720 --> 01:53:14.520
and astrophysicists like to give clever names of this. These
1785
01:53:14.680 --> 01:53:19.640
class of planets are called Goldilock's planets. And as you
1786
01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:22.800
can tell, probably from the name, this means this class
1787
01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:26.560
of planets are just about the right distance from their
1788
01:53:26.680 --> 01:53:31.760
suns that they could support life. And we are very
1789
01:53:31.760 --> 01:53:34.880
close to finding some of these planets that could have
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01:53:35.479 --> 01:53:38.960
light water on them, you know, have the conditions that
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01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:39.880
could support life.
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01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:42.079
So what this means is that and.
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01:53:42.079 --> 01:53:45.800
When you think of the number of galaxies out there,
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01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:51.560
within the real scientific community, it is now believed that
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01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:55.479
there is a high probability that the universe is teeming
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01:53:55.560 --> 01:53:59.760
with life. Okay, Now the question is, of course, in
1797
01:53:59.800 --> 01:54:05.039
this is the difference between the UFO you know community,
1798
01:54:05.319 --> 01:54:07.800
and what I'm talking about is that it is now
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01:54:08.760 --> 01:54:14.640
generally agreed within the scientific community that life is out there.
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01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:17.720
Whether that life has found us or not, that's a
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01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:23.800
different question. But here's where time travels come in. We
1802
01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:28.239
are developed us as developing, you know, the possibility of
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01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:32.399
time travel into the past. It could be that there
1804
01:54:32.399 --> 01:54:35.239
are civilizations out there that are older than us and
1805
01:54:35.279 --> 01:54:39.000
are technologically more sophisticated than us, and they have in
1806
01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:42.319
fact already developed time.
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01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:43.199
Travel to the past.
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01:54:44.159 --> 01:54:49.079
So the thing is is that if we encounter them,
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01:54:49.399 --> 01:54:53.319
those civilizations, for example, even though traveling back to the
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01:54:53.399 --> 01:54:58.079
past to a certain distance is something that we as
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01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:01.439
a barrier to us right now, it isn't for them.
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01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:05.159
So let's suppose that they have developed time traveled to
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01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:09.680
the past, let's say ten thousand years ago on their frame,
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01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:14.159
If we were able to encounter them or they encountered us,
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01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:17.880
they could come back to have encountered us in our
1816
01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:23.359
distant past. So even though that sounds like pure science fiction,
1817
01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:28.920
it is possible that there could be life out there
1818
01:55:29.239 --> 01:55:32.920
that has developed time traveled the past, that could have
1819
01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:37.279
could have visited us, so that we're actually seeing time
1820
01:55:37.399 --> 01:55:43.479
travelers from the future. That is a theoretical possibility. So
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01:55:45.359 --> 01:55:47.800
to me, that's fun to think about, but it's also
1822
01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:48.960
a possibility.
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01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:52.560
Yeah. I think if I was an alien traveling and
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01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:56.159
approached the Earth and had been watching some of the
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01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:58.840
news broadcast, I would probably lock my doors and just
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01:55:58.920 --> 01:55:59.840
continue onward.
1827
01:56:00.760 --> 01:56:08.279
But I totally agree with you. Yeah, I totally agree
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01:56:08.319 --> 01:56:09.279
with you.
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01:56:09.399 --> 01:56:09.640
Yeah.
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01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:14.479
I mean I think that they would say, look, you know,
1831
01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:17.720
these people need to be you know, kept here. In fact,
1832
01:56:17.720 --> 01:56:20.199
of course, there have been science fiction movies that have
1833
01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:25.279
played with that idea about watching how we've been developing
1834
01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:27.800
and saying, you know, we've got to keep an eye
1835
01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:28.600
on these people.
1836
01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:35.479
Do you have any other books in the projects taking
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01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:36.119
place now?
1838
01:56:36.279 --> 01:56:37.960
The thing is is that not yet.
1839
01:56:38.159 --> 01:56:42.039
I mean the thing once we get further in our
1840
01:56:42.199 --> 01:56:45.840
development than we have, and I mean my research has
1841
01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:49.840
been continuing to change. I mean I now know processes
1842
01:56:50.239 --> 01:56:53.479
that we that would be less expensive than what we
1843
01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:57.600
normally had originally thought. Uh so it's going to be
1844
01:56:57.960 --> 01:57:00.279
not as costly to do what it is that we
1845
01:57:00.399 --> 01:57:03.600
originally plan, which is to show that circulating beam of
1846
01:57:03.680 --> 01:57:07.199
light will cause a twisting of space, which we need
1847
01:57:07.239 --> 01:57:11.479
to do. That has to be shown before we can
1848
01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:14.560
even show that the circulated light.
1849
01:57:14.439 --> 01:57:18.319
Beam causes a twisting of time. But as far as
1850
01:57:19.720 --> 01:57:20.399
any new.
1851
01:57:20.319 --> 01:57:24.039
Book, no, that's and I think that's because for me,
1852
01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:27.680
the central theme of my life, even though from a
1853
01:57:27.720 --> 01:57:31.880
scientific standpoint, I've actually published many papers.
1854
01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:35.119
On black holes, even more on black holes than I
1855
01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:39.800
have on time travel and things that have to do
1856
01:57:39.840 --> 01:57:43.520
with quantum physics, the central theme of my life has
1857
01:57:43.600 --> 01:57:48.439
been to try to understand the nature.
1858
01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:49.920
And I shouldn't say that.
1859
01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:52.479
One of the things that I have been really proud
1860
01:57:52.479 --> 01:57:57.079
of was the fact that when I gave my first
1861
01:57:57.119 --> 01:58:02.479
technical talk to scientific community was at a group called
1862
01:58:02.479 --> 01:58:08.640
the International Association for Relativistic Dynamics, and one of the
1863
01:58:08.640 --> 01:58:11.199
physicists that was in the audience is the main name
1864
01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:14.920
Bryce de Wisp, who was the director at the Center
1865
01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:19.560
for Relativity at the University of Texas and Austin and
1866
01:58:19.920 --> 01:58:23.439
I talk in the prologue.
1867
01:58:22.920 --> 01:58:23.279
Of the book.
1868
01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:26.800
I talk about a sort of a humorous incident that
1869
01:58:26.920 --> 01:58:30.800
happened because I was nervous about giving the talk because
1870
01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:36.000
I was going to be giving the technical presentation papers
1871
01:58:36.039 --> 01:58:40.159
there the work that was published, I should say imper
1872
01:58:40.279 --> 01:58:41.560
reviewed physics.
1873
01:58:41.319 --> 01:58:43.720
Journals, but I wasn't sure.
1874
01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:46.680
De Witt was one of these people who was very,
1875
01:58:46.760 --> 01:58:49.600
very serious, and I.
1876
01:58:49.359 --> 01:58:51.680
Didn't suffer fools gladly.
1877
01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:53.600
And I was nervous because I was supposed to give
1878
01:58:53.640 --> 01:58:58.600
a presentation of my paper right after his presentation of
1879
01:58:58.640 --> 01:59:03.319
his work. And I was so touched by how he
1880
01:59:03.520 --> 01:59:06.399
felt about because at the end of my technical twelve
1881
01:59:06.439 --> 01:59:11.159
portion of my talk, what I did was I actually
1882
01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:15.680
mentioned about why I became interested in the subject of
1883
01:59:15.760 --> 01:59:19.439
time travel in the first place, the personal reason, the
1884
01:59:19.479 --> 01:59:25.560
death of my father. And he mentioned during the question
1885
01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:27.560
answer period, and he said he could have said this
1886
01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:31.520
to me privately, but what he said to me publicly,
1887
01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:34.359
and I have to tell you this still is something
1888
01:59:34.399 --> 01:59:39.199
that is really touches me, is important to me. What
1889
01:59:39.279 --> 01:59:41.800
he said was is that I don't know if you'll
1890
01:59:41.800 --> 01:59:44.560
see your father again, but he would have been proud
1891
01:59:44.560 --> 01:59:47.880
of you. And I can't tell you how much that
1892
01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:50.800
meant to me. It brought it all together for me,
1893
01:59:50.880 --> 01:59:55.760
because that was what my original goal was. And even
1894
01:59:55.800 --> 01:59:58.720
though this has been the center of my life, I
1895
01:59:58.760 --> 02:00:02.319
have been please that I have been able to be.
1896
02:00:02.199 --> 02:00:03.359
A professor to teach.
1897
02:00:03.439 --> 02:00:07.359
I loved teaching, and I loved the generations of students
1898
02:00:07.359 --> 02:00:09.960
that I've been able to help, and those some of
1899
02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:12.880
them have been inspired to go on to careers and
1900
02:00:13.039 --> 02:00:17.680
science themselves are in other fields. And so I feel
1901
02:00:17.720 --> 02:00:22.239
that that's, you know, that's made it all worthwhile for me.
1902
02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:24.439
Before I let you go, I know you was on
1903
02:00:24.600 --> 02:00:29.159
with Art a number of years back, and he had
1904
02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:31.720
this fascination with the movie Somewhere in Time.
1905
02:00:32.319 --> 02:00:35.960
Ah, yes, that's one of my favorites too.
1906
02:00:36.479 --> 02:00:40.560
I enjoy it myself. Any realization of realism to that,
1907
02:00:41.319 --> 02:00:43.600
do you think, well.
1908
02:00:43.520 --> 02:00:47.239
The thing is is that what they have they do
1909
02:00:47.319 --> 02:00:53.800
there is in fact it's it's that's when it's really good.
1910
02:00:53.840 --> 02:00:55.800
In some of the movies and some of the things, they
1911
02:00:55.800 --> 02:00:59.000
don't really tell you how he does it. Okay, he
1912
02:00:59.560 --> 02:01:03.560
you know, it's something in which essentially he uses his
1913
02:01:03.720 --> 02:01:06.439
mind to go back, but he doesn't really use a
1914
02:01:06.560 --> 02:01:12.399
process to go back. And so there's not any realism
1915
02:01:12.479 --> 02:01:15.399
in so far as the process that he uses to
1916
02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:18.239
go back into the past.
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02:01:18.720 --> 02:01:20.199
No, there isn't.
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02:01:20.439 --> 02:01:23.600
I would say from a scientific standpoint, there isn't any
1919
02:01:23.680 --> 02:01:27.359
real science in it. But I think that just from
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02:01:27.920 --> 02:01:31.119
the beauty of the movie and the fact that just
1921
02:01:31.640 --> 02:01:34.520
talking about what it would be like if we could
1922
02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:37.840
visit the past, and the fact that it sparks our imagination,
1923
02:01:38.680 --> 02:01:44.399
it's a beautiful movie, but there's no real science that's
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involved in it, although it does talk about that element
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that we were talking about, the question that you were
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asking about, which is related to the Grandfather paradox, which
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is the fact that the movie begins with the person
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who was the great and who's passed away.
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Now. Unfortunately, Christopher Reeves.
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Plays the lead role in that movie, where this elderly
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woman comes in and gives him a watch and says
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to him, come back to me, and then eventually you
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find out that he was able to go back to
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when she was a young woman many decades ago, and
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he gives her the watch, which she eventually gives to him.
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And that's just in the beauty of that story. But
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from a scientific standpoint, it is and I should mention
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though that there are some movies, science fiction movies who
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really do have strong elements of it. One of them,
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which is you wouldn't you'd be surprised, was Planet of
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the Apes, the original Planet of the Apes with Charlton Heston,
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where you know, they think they arrived on another planet,
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but they actually have been traveling so fast in the
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rocket that they came back to the Earth in the
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distant future. U that it was real, not the not
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the Apes taking over the planet, but it was real
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as far as fact that they mentioned a rocket that
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can travel fast enough to go.
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Into the future.
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Another one is Interstellar, where they talk about how these
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the black holes that they traveled to causes a shift
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in time for them. So there were elements of that
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that were real. So there are some science fiction movies
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like that who that have real science in them. Interstellar
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is one of the ones that have the most real
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science in them. But once again I think that you know,
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Einstein made the statement that imagination is more important than knowledge.
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Imagination in circles of the world. Knowledge is limited, but
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the imagination circles the world.
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Now, it didn't mean that knowledge isn't useful.
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In fact, it's our imagination, which sparks, you know, our
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interest in acquiring knowledge. Another example of that is Star Trek.
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You know that a lot of people went into space
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and too became engineers and scientists because as they were
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young people, they were inspired. Their imagination was sparked by
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Star Trek. And of course Star Trek had one of
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the most beautiful time travel stories in a Sitting on
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the Edge of Forever, which is one of my favorites.
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Oh yeah, you know, it's a beautiful story.
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So for me, these movies spark our imagination and they
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inspire us to want to acquire the knowledge to do
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things to create our world. And another thing that we
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forget sometimes is that the world that we live in
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with someone else's imagination. And so I try to tell
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young people that's important to remember that. And so you
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should allow your imagination to imagine the sort of world
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that you would like to have, and then acquire the
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knowledge and acquire the way to make that world the
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reality for future generation to live.
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I've had you here for I think a little over
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an hour now, and you probably want to get some risks.
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But do you have a website you'd like to give
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our listeners or.
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Oh, I do they if they go on I'm on Facebook,
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and what I encourage people is to go on my
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Facebook site.
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But if.
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My University of Connecticut website, I don't know the website number.
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But if they actually just go to to the Physics
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department at the University of Connecticut and they look me up,
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they'll will actually find me on at the University of
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Connecticut Physics department website.
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It'd be Physics at UCM dot E d U. Right, alrighty, sir.
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I appreciate you coming on. It's been an honor. I know.
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I don't know if you've been on any other shows
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since you were on with Art before.
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I have been anything? Is is that? Uh?
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And now it's it's been happening even even more because
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of the recently because the possibility of my book coming out,
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and I'd like to encourage people, by the way, to
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read the memoir you have been more is available from Amazon. Uh,
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time Traveler, as I said, and not be happy to
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answer questions that people have if they want, if they
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contact you by email, and I should mention with my email.
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Addresses by the way, that that's uh, it's r L
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M A L L E T T. At ao Well
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dot com.
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All right, sir, before we duck out, any last thoughts
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you'd like to bring up.
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No, except for the fact that that you know, I
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think that people should enjoy, you know, as I said,
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to use their imagination and try to enjoy and think
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of the world that they would like to have that
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is beneficial for all of us, and to try to
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help make that world come into a reality.
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Well, great minds, what makes the world go round? Really?
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So I agree with you, and.
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Thank you very much for having me in your program.
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I appreciate it.
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Thank you, sir for being here. And if any major
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breakthroughs can take place, give me an email and I'll
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have you back on to discuss it. Sure, Thank you
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all right, have a good emaent sir.
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YouTube.
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Oh bye bye bye.
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You get a Shiva in the in the pods meantime,
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whole everything ab ball time.
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Eric von Danikin, the Swiss author who helped popularize the
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idea that ancient civilizations were influenced by extraterrestrials, has died.
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Von Danikin became an international sensation in nineteen sixty eight
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with Cheriots of the Gods, a book that argued ancient monuments,
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religious texts, and myths were evidence of contact with advanced
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alien visitors. The book was widely criticized by scientists and historians,
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but it struck a chord with the public, selling tens
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of millions of copies worldwide and spawning a global fascination
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with so called ancient astronaut theories. Those scholars dismissed his
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claims as pseudoscience. Vent von Danikin's work left a lasting
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mark on popular culture, inspiring books, documentaries, and television series
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that continue to explore mysterious origins of human history. Von
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NASA is moving to bring a crew home early from
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the International Space Station after a serious but unspecified medical
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issue affected one of the astronauts on board, a move
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that could be unprecedented in the orbiting lab's twenty five
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year history. The space agency said the affected crewmember is
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currently stable, but the situation is serious enough that NASA
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leadership and flight surgeons decided the best courses to return
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be provided on station. The four person Crew eleven team
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includes American astronauts Xena Cardman and Mike Finke, Japanese astronaut
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Kim Ya Yui, and Russia cosmonaut Oleg Platonov. They launched
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last August on a six month mission and had been
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scheduled to return around May. The medical concern first emerged
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this week and led NASA to cancel a planned spacewalk,
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highlighting how carefully the agency treats astronaut health issues and
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how limited medical capabilities are in microgravity. Officials declined to
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name the individual or describe the condition. Citing privacy, NASA
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says there's no indication that the issue arose from station
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operations and that safely conducting missions remains a top priority.
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Engineers and managers are now planning an accelerated return in
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the coming days, with the spacecraft expected to splash down
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off the California coast. This rare decision underscores challenges of
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long duration spaceflight. That's it for dark Matter News. Catch
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for Memphis, Tennessee. I'm Joshua Stark.
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You'res cold as ice.
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You will need to sacrifice out love.
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You never take advice.
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Someday you're the bright side.
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I'm leaving me more.
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Time. Welcome back to Midnight Frequency Radio. I'm Carl Richardson.
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I think he'll be one for listening in tonight for
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art Bell josh Cheers, Joshua Stark and Lady Marie. I'm
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Carl Richardson. Until next time, explore the unknown.
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F F f F.
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And the.
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Day to.
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