SELLEST OSAST
Content note: This episode includes open conversation about mental health, suicidal ideation, and personal crisis. If you are struggling, please know you are not alone. In the U.S., call or text 988. In Canada, call Talk Suicide Canada at 1-833-456-4566.
A conversation with Trevor Muir -- leadership coach, keynote speaker, poet, and co-founder of SurePoint, the Alberta-based company he helped scale from $4 million to over $120 million in revenue while holding on to its people through a near-bankruptcy and a pandemic.
This is not an episode about farming or fuel prices. It is a conversation about what happens when you get everything you thought you wanted and still feel empty on the bathroom floor of a condo you own. It is about terminal uniqueness -- the belief that nobody could possibly understand -- and the slow, expensive way most of us learn it isn't true.
Trevor and I met earlier this year in a leadership course he was teaching with Corliss Russell. I broke down in the intro. A room full of oilfield and farm guys went there with me. This episode is the conversation I wanted to have with Trevor once the dust settled.
Topics and Timestamps
0:00 -- Introduction: Trevor Muir, Lean In to Lead, and why this episode exists
6:57 -- SurePoint: how ten farm kids from Grand Prairie built a $92M company
8:17 -- The bathroom floor: Edmonton, 2011, the worst and best day of Trevor's life
10:44 -- Dr. Gons and the life coach: "I get it. I totally get it."
13:13 -- Terminal uniqueness: the belief that nobody could understand your pain
14:21 -- Mount Kilimanjaro and the billionaire: testing whether all humans feel the same
20:00 -- SurePoint near-bankruptcy: going full-vulnerable with team, vendors, and clients
23:00 -- Buying the company back in 2018 and the pandemic decision
25:43 -- The pandemic pay cuts: 10%-35%, keeping every employee
27:39 -- $30M to $98M to $125M: how caring became a competitive advantage
30:00 -- Scale Like You Give a Shit -- Trevor's book in progress
37:00 -- "Change Your Someday to Today": the poem, Marty's CPR story, and Brian's car
43:11 -- The three A's of change: awareness, acceptance, action
44:34 -- The flooding basement analogy
51:00 -- Affirmations: "I am enough, I deserve abundance, I love you [name]"
57:02 -- 30 days in the mirror: the NASA research and Jack Canfield connection
1:00:04 -- Gratitude as the number one brain hack
1:07:29 -- Wave of fortune: Dan's Thailand story and Vadim Zeland's Transurfing
1:15:00 -- Walking one kilometer every day for 365 days
1:27:00 -- How Trevor works with business owners now, and where AI fits in
1:35:12 -- Trevor's closing challenge: change your someday to today
Resources Mentioned
Addiction to Poetry -- Trevor Muir (book, available on Amazon)
Lean In to Lead -- Trevor's podcast, launching soon
Scale Like You Give a Shit -- Trevor's book in progress on the SurePoint story
Jack Canfield -- affirmation and manifestation framework
Mindvalley / Vishon Lakhiani -- gratitude research
Wim Hof Method -- 90-day cold exposure and breathwork program
Transurfing -- Vadim Zeland (wave of fortune concept)
12 Rules for Life -- Jordan Peterson (lobster and serotonin, referenced by Dan)
Corliss Russell -- Conversations with Corliss podcast; LEED event Saskatoon, November 2026
Connect with Trevor Muir
LinkedIn: search Trevor Muir -- he reads his messages and responds, especially from people who are struggling
Lean In to Lead podcast: launching soon
Connect with Growing the Future
Website: growingthefuture.ca
YouTube: Growing the Future
Instagram: @growingthefuture
LinkedIn: Growing the Future
Crisis Support
If you or someone you know is struggling:
Canada -- Talk Suicide Canada: 1-833-456-4566
U.S. -- Call or text 988
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