Flyers Files: Concerning Start to the Season Turning a Corner?

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And welcome into Flyers Files.
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This is our weekly podcast on BFA sports.
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And I'm Kevin Durso,
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your host from last year as well.
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But this time we're back for another
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season and I'm not alone this time.
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So I want to bring in and introduce
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our panel for this year.
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And it's going to be a lot of
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fun to have two people joining me that
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I've gotten to know well over the years.
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First, Alex Berardis,
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who everybody should know from the
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weekends on ninety seven three ESPN
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producer on the locker room was also sat
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in with Mike Gill a handful of times,
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also did some episodes of Hanging with
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Henning.
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Right.
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I got all this right now.
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Right, Alex?
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I'm hitting every point that I got right
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now.
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Right.
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But there's quite a few.
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He's he's also splitting coverage with me
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this year on Flyers games,
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both home and away.
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So we're going to.
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tag team that and he's been excited to
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get involved more with flyers coverage so
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it's great to have him on board and
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then we're also welcoming in siobhan nolan
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who i i've gone way back with back
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to we both worked on a website called
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sports talk philly for a brief period of
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time that goes back way longer than i
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want to recollect at this point the lore
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runs deep
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yeah and she did beyond some flyer stuff
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to get into the credentialed game a little
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bit she did union coverage for a little
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while it was all of that and now
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she's been on flyers coverage for the last
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four seasons i believe it is like i
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started in january twenty twenty four so i
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have like a weird little half season in
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there but like two and a half seasons
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i'd say
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You know what?
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When you're a player,
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they give you credit for a full season
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when it's...
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We're calling it your fourth season.
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The thing for me about this,
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and believe me,
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I handpicked these two to be part of
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this.
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The idea is
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Sometimes you see a bunch of podcasts out
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there where you get somebody who brings
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the fan perspective and then maybe a media
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perspective.
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This is three people who are in the
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building, who get in inside access,
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who are around the players,
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around the coaches,
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around the team throughout the year.
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Siobhan's at everything.
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She's at practice.
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She's at postgame locker room,
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everything like that.
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as this goes on,
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if you don't already recognize her voice,
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you will,
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because certainly she's been right at the
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forefront of a lot of post games and
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things like that.
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And Alex is starting with me this year
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as well.
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And I've obviously been doing this for a
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very long time as documented on ninety
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seven three.
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It's my thirteenth season covering the
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team.
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So I've got a lot of time down
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there as well.
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And and nothing else changes about this.
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We're going to just
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engage in good talk about the team.
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We're going to still have, uh,
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we're reducing the three stars to player
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of the week.
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I did three stars the week last year.
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I I'm going to just do player of
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the week this time.
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Um,
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I think that's a little easier and then
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we'll just highlight everything else.
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We'll have a bunch of topics throughout
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the course of the week.
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And this will be, by the way,
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every Tuesday does not matter if the team
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is playing,
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we're going to be on at six.
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So usually that leads into any game that
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would be on that includes, uh,
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next week when the Flyers are hosting the
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Columbus Blue Jackets,
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which should be an interesting game based
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on the way both teams have started their
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season.
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And I think that's a good segue to
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get into the start of this season,
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because we have to just kind of hit
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it off the jump.
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The start wasn't great.
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Lots of concern.
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This team started winless in nine straight
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games, and the banner says it all.
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It's the worst start they've had in
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franchise history.
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And
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from your perspective, guys,
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like I'm trying to figure out how we
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want to kind of jump off on this
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because there was a lot of negative around
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for a while.
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It's been better lately,
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but a lot of negative.
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I think that, you know,
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I kind of set the stage last week
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when I was on the air on ninety
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seven three on Friday after they played
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Detroit that I was very surprised that
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they had played such a good game on
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Tuesday and then kind of laid an egg
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again on Thursday.
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Alex, you want to jump in to start?
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Yeah, I mean,
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it just wasn't even that they were losing.
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It was just in the way that they
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were losing.
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I mean,
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this team looked like a high school JV
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squad out there.
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Like, they couldn't make ten-foot passes.
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They couldn't get shots on net.
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They were just hemmed in their own zone
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time after time after time to the point
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where even if they got the puck out,
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they just had to dump it and then
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get a line change just to get fresh
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bodies on the ice.
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It was a really brutal watch for those
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first nine games.
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And being in the locker room postgame
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after the Carolina game,
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the vibes you could just tell you were
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walking on eggshells the entire time.
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And there it was just bad vibes all
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around.
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Yeah.
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I called it expansion level at one point,
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which is not a compliment by any stretch.
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And, and I'll Siobhan,
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I'll bring you in on this part because
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again,
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same thing we're trying to like kind of
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the vibe in the room.
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And one of the things I said last
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week was,
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cause I got asked a lot when I
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was on with Mike Gill on Friday, what,
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you know,
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what kind of can get them back on
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track and, and, and,
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and that kind of thing.
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And I,
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To be honest,
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one of the things I responded with was,
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I need to see them win a game
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to see how they respond to a win
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before I can really kind of decipher what
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this team is.
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And I've said it about a lot of
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things.
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Again,
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everybody wants to fixate on something
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like the power play.
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Well,
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the power play is not going to look
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good if five on five doesn't look good,
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right?
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Yeah,
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it was definitely a weird thing to
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experience, you know,
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coming off of the playoffs and, you know,
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camp.
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Everyone was really excited.
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And what really struck me as interesting
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in the postgame stuff was, you know,
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when you ask the players and Rick Tockett,
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what's going wrong?
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Like, what is not, you know...
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being communicated what's not happening
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you kind of got different answers from the
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coach versus the players you know the
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players were all about we have to simplify
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our game we have to just kind of
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get back to basics you know play the
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way that we know how to play and
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you know,
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maybe that's the players just kind of
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holding their stuff close to the vest.
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You know,
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they don't want to give a whole analytics
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talk, you know, post-game.
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But with Tokit,
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he was very much making those ten-foot
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passes, you know,
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getting in front of the net.
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You know,
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he was switching around lines like every
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single game trying to find something that
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stuck.
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So it was interesting to hear that because
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that kind of communicated to me that
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Maybe not necessarily everyone wasn't on
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the same page, but it seemed like, OK,
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there's different perspectives on what's
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happening and what's wrong.
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And that's kind of like, OK,
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maybe you guys don't really have answers
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either.
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You know,
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maybe the players kind of weren't at the
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same understanding as talk.
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And I think maybe that kind of difference
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also played into it because it really
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sounded like.
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Guys didn't really know what was wrong
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because you're hearing the same cliches
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post-game after post-game.
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And you're like, okay,
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I'm writing the same article every single
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game because it's the same stuff.
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But then you look at how they play
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on the ice and nothing changed.
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So that was pretty frustrating all around.
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Yeah,
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and you were at camp for a lot
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of it.
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So you saw it on a day-to-day basis
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with how camp went.
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Everything that I heard about it was that
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it was energetic.
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It was crisp.
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It felt like it was building off of
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last season.
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And that's the thing, too.
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Like Alex talked about with the locker
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room,
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it's like when we were going down there,
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even at the end of last season,
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after the Carolina series was over,
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it didn't feel like...
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the way it has in the past when
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a season ends it was kind of like
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a well you know okay we're happy that
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we got to this point and we're proud
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of ourselves and now the next step would
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be to build on it and it's it's
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like that's what was so surprising to me
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about the start was where did all of
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that go where did the urgency of that
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go where did the work ethic go and
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i felt like i like to your point
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like we write the same articles i was
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doing the same it felt like the same
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keys of the game every single game it's
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like
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Have some energy.
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Have some effort involved.
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Show some urgency to get a first win.
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Do something like that.
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Maybe it's finally coming around,
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but these first nine,
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it was a slog for most of it.
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It was...
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a couple of games where it was goaltending
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is holding you in.
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And maybe that's the most thrilling part
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about the last two games is these guys
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who have played so well for most of
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the season to this point, you know,
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a couple of games here and there that
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really it's hard to shoulder as a goalie
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completely.
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Like it's not all on them and they
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finally get rewarded for it.
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Yeah,
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and it's really interesting because it's
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not a very different team than it was
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last year.
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I think it was Owen Tippett that brought
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up the point that we don't have a
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ton of new guys.
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It's not like Daniel Breer went out and
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got this whole new team and now they
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have to get used to playing with each
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other.
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He was like...
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you know,
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that's the worst part of it is that
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we know how to play with each other.
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Even if the lines do get kind of
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put in a blender,
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we should know how to just adjust because
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we've been together for so long and we
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are such a close group.
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And, you know,
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it was just really weird to see that
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like, you know,
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these guys that on paper look like, okay,
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this is going to be the line that
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figures it out.
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And then they don't,
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they don't know where the other person is
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on the ice.
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They can't string a pass together.
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It's like,
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You know,
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it was really kind of baffling to see
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that because, you know,
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they brought in guys like Simon Benoit,
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Joseph Wohl, but, you know,
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that was kind of like the big business.
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And then it's like, all right,
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so you're playing with the same guys.
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What happened?
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Alex,
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I want to throw this one part to
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you because this is a conversation I had
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with Mike Gill,
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and I know it's shared at the station
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a little bit.
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The idea that expectations were different
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without making many changes on the team.
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I kind of had to explain it when
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I was on last week about expectations
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being, you know,
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when Mike does the show and he does
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it for a different sport,
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but talks about the numbers on the back
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of the baseball card.
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And I kind of brought that up as
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a reference where it's like,
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you have an expectation as a fan base,
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not just from last season in the playoffs,
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but...
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Previous seasons,
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Owen Tippett gives you this,
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Travis Konechny gives you this,
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Travis Sanheim gives you this,
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and you expect that to kind of be
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a year-over-year thing,
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and you're not getting that from players
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like that.
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I looked at it as the growth was
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supposed to come from the players that you
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didn't have a full season's body of work
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to examine to understand what their
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ceiling could be.
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But you were expecting everybody else to
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do their routine part.
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And that's what was so shocking is what
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happened to those guys?
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What happened to the veterans that were
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supposed to give you a certain element of,
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you know,
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when I look at what Danny Breer said
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at the beginning of the year,
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elaborating on the step back comment.
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And where he says, you know,
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what kept him up or what keeps him
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up at night is not the idea that
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they're going to take a step back.
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It's that the young guys get complacent
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with getting there.
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And it was all about the young guys.
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Well,
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what about the veterans who kind of look
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the same level of complacent to start the
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year?
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That's kind of what I had to explain
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is the expectation line.
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Yeah,
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I think anybody who had expectations for
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this team to go out there and win
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a Stanley Cup this year,
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I don't think that's what the goal for
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this year was supposed to be.
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The goal for this year was supposed to
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be these young guys, Marton, Michkov,
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maybe a guy like Alex Bump,
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take that next step to where...
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You know,
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we see the trajectory going forward.
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And like you said, those older guys,
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the veterans in the room,
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you know what you're getting out of those
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guys.
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They have to be what they are.
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Guys like Travis Sanheim, Travis Konechny,
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he's hurt now.
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But, you know, those guys,
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they have a role to play.
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They just needed to play their role with
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the hope.
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that the younger guys take that next step.
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Porter Martone gets an off season.
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Cause you know,
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he went straight from Michigan state
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straight into the NHL,
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straight into the NHL playoffs,
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then played for team Canada in a
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tournament.
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So then, you know, had some time off,
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get a full training camp under him.
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Same thing with Alex bump.
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So it was just,
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hopefully those guys were able to put in
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the off season work,
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like how we've seen with Matt,
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they Mitch Cobb now starting to pan out.
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And yeah,
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Yeah,
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it was just those the older guys needed
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to do their role with having the younger
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guys take their steps up and then
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hopefully this team just has a brighter
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trajectory going forward,
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not winning the Stanley Cup this year.
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Yeah, like,
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the guy who stands out to me,
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and thankfully, like,
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I'm not burying a player here who has
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been bad for the last several games.
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He's been a lot better.
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But, like, for those first, like,
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five games,
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I didn't recognize Christian Dvorak.
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It was like,
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what happened to you that you can't move
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the puck through the middle of the ice?
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Your defending looks off.
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Something's just not right with the game.
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And it's finally kind of seemed like it's
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corrected himself and everybody else.
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I guess I want to use that to
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go into the more positive things that are
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going on at this point.
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They've won a couple of games.
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That's a big deal, it seems.
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I don't know about you guys.
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I did not expect Monday night to be
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the way that it was.
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I thought with Colorado coming in
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shorthanded team,
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all all of the factors indicated that was
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a scheduled loss.
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And instead,
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and I wrote this for my observations that
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I do weekly that share the name of
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the podcast.
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is it possible that there was some
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overlooking of competition in training
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camp?
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The idea that, you know,
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here's some guys that look like they could
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have made the team out of camp and
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they join the lineup.
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And now all of a sudden seems like
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more consistent play is following them.
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And I guess the two names I'm thinking
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of most at the top of this list
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are Oliver Bonk and what Cole Canoobo did
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coming in last night in particular.
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So is that something, and Siobhan,
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you can answer this one because, um,
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With the camp experience with UC and what
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camp looked like, obviously,
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like a lot of people were surprised when
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Cole Canoobo got sent down because of how
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he was playing.
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But it seemed like a numbers game.
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Is it possible that maybe there was some
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overlooking of letting guys be rewarded
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for how they did versus how some others
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may have looked at the start?
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And maybe that could have stopped the
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snowball a little bit.
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Yeah, I mean,
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I don't know if Cole Knubel came into
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camp being on a bunch of people's radars.
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It's like, okay,
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this is a guy that could really challenge
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for a spot,
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but he played the way that he did.
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He was a great kid to talk to.
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He's got such a great mentality and a
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great personality.
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And I think kind of the common theme
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with the front office and the coaches is,
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They never want to rush a prospect's
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development.
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They're very careful about not throwing
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guys right into the NHL,
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even if they do have a good camp,
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because whatever's going on behind the
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scenes, like there's,
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I do believe that they have their reasons
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that maybe we're not necessarily privy to
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all of the time,
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but
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That's really the case with Oliver Bonk.
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They've really come out and said,
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we know that Bonk is good,
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we know that he's capable,
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but defensemen take a little longer and we
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don't want to run the risk of rushing
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him and maybe stunting his development and
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hurting his potential just because, oh,
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you're playing great in Lehigh,
00:15:31.958 --> 00:15:33.919
let's kick you up if we don't have
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to.
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And so I think that's a big part
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of it is that it does come from
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a good place,
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but then you go out against the Colorado
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Avalanche and you play a really good game
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against them.
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I mean, that's no small feat.
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So it does kind of start to beg
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the question of, okay,
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the guys are hurt,
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so obviously you need these extra bodies
00:15:54.105 --> 00:15:54.466
right now,
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but could they actually challenge for a
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spot?
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Because it happened with Denver Barkey and
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Alex Bump last year.
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Denver Barkey got called up because,
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I forget exactly who was injured,
00:16:04.735 --> 00:16:06.636
but he had such a good run that
00:16:06.697 --> 00:16:08.018
Danny Rear literally was like,
00:16:08.177 --> 00:16:09.958
we had plans to send him down after
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a couple games,
00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.480
and he just played so well that we
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couldn't do that.
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So it's happened before,
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and I'm wondering if that could be the
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case for
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maybe a cool canoe bowl to kind of
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go on a similar run this season.
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I think it's the case with Oliver Bonk.
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I don't think he's going down anytime
00:16:27.133 --> 00:16:27.413
soon.
00:16:28.354 --> 00:16:28.754
The fact,
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and I know that the first game,
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and Alex, you were there for me,
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the first game against Carolina for him,
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that's just a rough spot to be in.
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It was the back end of a back-to-back.
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Let's throw you in on the top pairing
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against the defending Stanley Cup champs.
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It's kind of a recipe for disaster.
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Everything since then,
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like I saw him Tuesday in person.
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I've watched these last handful of games.
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The poise is there.
00:16:51.398 --> 00:16:52.778
A little bit of offensive touch.
00:16:53.178 --> 00:16:55.659
He had an assist in last Tuesday's game
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against Seattle that I thought was a
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really smart play on his part in being
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up on the play.
00:17:00.821 --> 00:17:02.500
I thought the play last night to step
00:17:02.541 --> 00:17:03.802
into a shot was the right...
00:17:04.281 --> 00:17:05.321
It's reading the play well.
00:17:05.362 --> 00:17:06.821
He's got some smarts to his game,
00:17:07.623 --> 00:17:08.063
as we've seen.
00:17:09.182 --> 00:17:10.563
The thing I like about it for him
00:17:11.303 --> 00:17:12.604
is he's kind of been...
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I guess one as part of the Meechkov
00:17:16.061 --> 00:17:18.282
draft, but two, just for where,
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I guess the territory of which he was
00:17:19.903 --> 00:17:21.505
picked being in the twenties,
00:17:22.486 --> 00:17:23.926
it feels like those picks just get
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dismissed as not as valuable for,
00:17:27.169 --> 00:17:28.028
for whatever reason.
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And.
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I'm seeing him develop into a player that
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starts to make that class look better.
00:17:36.394 --> 00:17:40.076
And it kind of validates what Danny Breer
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did because it's the same thing with
00:17:41.237 --> 00:17:41.917
Denver Barkey.
00:17:42.018 --> 00:17:43.077
It validated, hey,
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you picked this kid third round.
00:17:45.980 --> 00:17:47.240
You don't have high expectations.
00:17:47.681 --> 00:17:48.842
Whoever that is is going to have to
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really work for it, and he did.
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I think Bonk has done the same,
00:17:52.223 --> 00:17:54.464
and he's now proving to be somebody that
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you can –
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I don't think you're just talking about,
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like,
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I think at the beginning of training camp,
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it would have been,
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can he be the six?
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I don't think that's the case anymore.
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I think now you're starting to ask
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yourself,
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is he part of the top four potentially
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down the road if he's able to handle
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responsibility like this now and you can
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still continue to somewhat shelter him a
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little bit?
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So I think that that's already an
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encouraging thing.
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I want to pitch this to both of
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you,
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and I just thought of it because I
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was looking behind me for a second on
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camera anyway,
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and I thought about the first game as
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I won.
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There's a symbol behind me.
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It's right over here that represents
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somebody who's really important to the
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Flyers organization who had a say in part
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of Saturday's win and got recognized for
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it.
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So you guys were both in the room
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when both Rick Taka gave out the game
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puck and I guess after the fact when
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they finally were able to
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do the player of the game award kind
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of thing and all stuff like that after
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win but to see what they did for
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jason martinez and and kind of to bring
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that all together like it felt symbolic
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that the first win comes after that kind
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of moment that it felt like going to
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somebody who's been around the team
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forever certainly as long as i've been
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around doing it and beyond like
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It just felt like a special moment to
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have that be the first win,
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to have that be centered around that whole
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thing.
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It had to be something that was cool.
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I'm sorry that I missed it in person,
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but I saw all the stuff.
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As soon as I heard that he got
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the game puck, by the way,
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I was scrambling to find any video that
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I could have.
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Yeah,
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let me see this because it's a really
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cool gesture on the part of the Flyers.
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Yeah, Rick Talkett,
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when he was giving the game puck,
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he didn't go into too much detail about
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what Jason said to the team,
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but he really emphasized that it did kind
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of put things into perspective.
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He literally was like,
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we're playing a game and we're at the
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NHL and there's expectations for us,
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but
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You know,
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there's people who are fighting these
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battles that I can't even imagine going
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through.
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And, you know,
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he said that it really did make an
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impact on the team and that you could
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just feel it in the room.
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There was kind of a pause,
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a silence after Jason left.
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And, you know,
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you could tell that it really left a
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mark.
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And, yeah.
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I do think that that's an important thing
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to bring in someone like Jason who's so
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knowledgeable and so passionate and has
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been around for so long and has seen
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so many different iterations of this
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Flyers team.
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To have someone like that come in and
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rouse the guys and share his story and
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really put things into perspective like
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you're playing a game.
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you do have to meet these expectations,
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but there's also a whole other life and
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a whole other world out there.
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And I don't know what he said,
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but it worked.
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And, you know,
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Taka joked that Jason was going to be
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the next head coach.
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And it was just a really cool moment.
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And it really was a feel good thing
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for everyone that he got that recognition.
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Yeah.
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What was it like from your perspective,
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Alex?
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Yeah,
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it just felt like you could feel how
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touching it was.
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Like Taka,
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you could tell just the emotion on his
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face, how impactful it was to him.
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And I think it was just one of
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those where the team kind of might have
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looked at themselves and be like,
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we got to stop being sorry for ourselves
00:21:09.750 --> 00:21:09.971
here.
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Like nobody's going to come and help us
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out.
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We got to get through this.
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We have people very close in this
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organization, in this, you know, building.
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that are going through such tougher times,
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not even in the building, just in,
00:21:21.339 --> 00:21:21.839
in life,
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just going through such tougher times and
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they're fighting every day through it.
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We cannot feel sorry for ourselves.
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We are playing a game right now.
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We're making a lot of money playing a
00:21:32.224 --> 00:21:33.384
fun game right now.
00:21:33.944 --> 00:21:35.526
Fans are coming out and cheering us on.
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Like we have it so much better than
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everybody else.
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It really is just about perspective in
00:21:41.229 --> 00:21:41.489
life.
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I'm going to admit, too,
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and this is me doing my best from
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afar,
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but Saturday's crowd felt like it was a
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lot better than anticipated for a team
00:21:52.134 --> 00:21:53.155
that didn't have a win yet.
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I feel like there were remnants of Tuesday
00:21:56.138 --> 00:21:59.702
that were shades of years past that I
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know I've gone through,
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and I'm really shooting back like,
00:22:04.411 --> 00:22:04.570
You know,
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twenty nineteen things like it was there
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were some rough years over those handful,
00:22:08.713 --> 00:22:09.314
you know, handful.
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It felt like everybody was still there.
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And I think that you won some people
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back with a performance that looked like
00:22:16.057 --> 00:22:16.598
last year,
00:22:16.638 --> 00:22:18.160
that looked like a team that we that
00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:20.580
we recognize from a playoff run at the
00:22:20.621 --> 00:22:21.321
end of last year.
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And.
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I think what you both said was perfect
00:22:24.844 --> 00:22:26.546
about the idea of not feeling sorry for
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yourself in this because it is a team
00:22:28.886 --> 00:22:30.347
that's banged up right now that has a
00:22:30.429 --> 00:22:31.229
lot of guys out,
00:22:31.269 --> 00:22:33.211
and it doesn't seem like they're phased by
00:22:33.270 --> 00:22:33.371
it.
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It certainly seems like that's the thing
00:22:35.392 --> 00:22:37.493
that... Yeah, sure,
00:22:37.554 --> 00:22:38.775
maybe it's not at the position that
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everybody has widely discussed as the one
00:22:41.497 --> 00:22:42.978
that would do them in the most in
00:22:43.038 --> 00:22:43.357
goal,
00:22:43.417 --> 00:22:45.839
but you're not missing guys who don't
00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:47.761
play... You're missing guys who...
00:22:48.854 --> 00:22:50.974
play a lot of minutes like you're not
00:22:50.994 --> 00:22:53.255
just replacing guys in the lineup that
00:22:54.455 --> 00:22:56.375
have small roles to fill or anything like
00:22:56.415 --> 00:22:58.777
that like with travis connect needs a big
00:22:58.836 --> 00:23:01.297
loss in your lineup with how much you
00:23:01.336 --> 00:23:02.837
want to play him same thing with the
00:23:02.877 --> 00:23:04.097
you know cam york plays a lot of
00:23:04.157 --> 00:23:06.818
minutes you think of guys like that now
00:23:06.858 --> 00:23:08.538
they've missed owen tippett for a game and
00:23:08.558 --> 00:23:10.579
they've missed tyson forester for a game
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:12.361
and it's like okay these are piling up
00:23:12.401 --> 00:23:13.740
a lot wrist align and coming off the
00:23:13.760 --> 00:23:16.061
top pair and having somebody else have to
00:23:16.102 --> 00:23:17.362
go in and fill that void it's like
00:23:18.586 --> 00:23:19.928
you have a lot of guys missing and
00:23:19.968 --> 00:23:23.010
you still look more these last two games,
00:23:23.090 --> 00:23:24.732
more like the team that everybody wants to
00:23:24.813 --> 00:23:27.615
recognize and wants to see take that next
00:23:27.655 --> 00:23:27.976
step.
00:23:28.195 --> 00:23:31.239
And I think that's an inspiring thing in
00:23:31.259 --> 00:23:32.580
and of itself that you can start to
00:23:32.641 --> 00:23:33.441
win people over.
00:23:33.801 --> 00:23:35.383
I'm curious for you guys,
00:23:35.403 --> 00:23:36.503
and I'll bring up the schedule that's
00:23:36.684 --> 00:23:38.226
coming up for the upcoming week to kind
00:23:38.266 --> 00:23:39.928
of start to move towards this direction,
00:23:39.948 --> 00:23:41.990
but they play Wednesday night.
00:23:42.009 --> 00:23:42.931
And I think this game,
00:24:13.422 --> 00:24:15.502
game and i'm wondering what a win on
00:24:15.864 --> 00:24:18.404
wednesday night would do like you go into
00:24:18.424 --> 00:24:20.006
that game on a three-game winning streak
00:24:20.707 --> 00:24:22.988
you start to slowly forget about the other
00:24:23.008 --> 00:24:24.608
games a little bit more it feels like
00:24:24.729 --> 00:24:26.309
less something that's a little less
00:24:26.390 --> 00:24:27.431
daunting what do you guys think
00:24:29.166 --> 00:24:29.307
Yeah,
00:24:29.346 --> 00:24:32.390
I think having such a long winless streak
00:24:32.430 --> 00:24:33.490
to start the season,
00:24:33.510 --> 00:24:34.852
because this is not the first time that
00:24:34.872 --> 00:24:36.032
they've gone on like an eight,
00:24:36.093 --> 00:24:37.173
nine game losing streak,
00:24:37.193 --> 00:24:40.036
but that's always been more towards like
00:24:40.076 --> 00:24:42.337
the middle slash end of the season.
00:24:42.758 --> 00:24:44.240
So to start it off like that,
00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:46.121
especially following the success that they
00:24:46.141 --> 00:24:47.041
had last year,
00:24:47.582 --> 00:24:49.403
that's really going to demoralize a room.
00:24:49.624 --> 00:24:51.865
And you can tell that even now that
00:24:51.885 --> 00:24:53.207
they've won and put in some good
00:24:53.247 --> 00:24:53.968
performances,
00:24:53.988 --> 00:24:55.368
they're trying not to get
00:24:55.821 --> 00:24:56.222
you know,
00:24:56.242 --> 00:24:57.864
too high on it because they understand
00:24:57.903 --> 00:24:59.645
that it's a long season ahead of them.
00:24:59.665 --> 00:25:00.887
There's still a lot of work to be
00:25:00.928 --> 00:25:02.608
done, but you know,
00:25:02.689 --> 00:25:04.451
the more wins that they get,
00:25:04.490 --> 00:25:06.634
the more good performances they put in,
00:25:07.114 --> 00:25:08.655
the more they see, you know,
00:25:08.675 --> 00:25:10.458
the young guys contributing and making
00:25:10.478 --> 00:25:11.358
that difference.
00:25:11.939 --> 00:25:13.941
It really does do wonders to build
00:25:14.001 --> 00:25:15.042
confidence and they have all the
00:25:15.083 --> 00:25:17.144
confidence in the world and their goalies.
00:25:17.424 --> 00:25:17.565
Um,
00:25:18.266 --> 00:25:18.506
you know,
00:25:18.866 --> 00:25:20.688
the pieces are there and they know that
00:25:20.708 --> 00:25:21.128
they're there.
00:25:21.189 --> 00:25:23.191
And something that Trevor Zegers said a
00:25:23.230 --> 00:25:24.491
couple of games ago, he said,
00:25:24.992 --> 00:25:27.575
we're such a tight group and that is
00:25:27.634 --> 00:25:29.237
going to help us get out of this
00:25:29.396 --> 00:25:29.616
rut.
00:25:29.636 --> 00:25:31.219
But it also kind of makes it hurt
00:25:31.298 --> 00:25:33.820
even more because we're so close and we
00:25:33.840 --> 00:25:35.583
care about each other so much that,
00:25:36.063 --> 00:25:36.263
you know,
00:25:36.503 --> 00:25:37.684
you want the guy next to you to
00:25:37.724 --> 00:25:39.066
do well and you want to put him
00:25:39.125 --> 00:25:40.387
in a good position to do well.
00:25:40.407 --> 00:25:41.087
And I feel like they
00:25:41.848 --> 00:25:43.430
felt like they weren't really doing that.
00:25:43.509 --> 00:25:45.730
So to be able to just kind of
00:25:45.790 --> 00:25:48.173
come together over some positive
00:25:48.413 --> 00:25:49.393
performances,
00:25:50.594 --> 00:25:52.295
it's really going to give them some juice
00:25:52.315 --> 00:25:53.635
and it's really going to make them see
00:25:53.675 --> 00:25:54.236
like, hey,
00:25:54.355 --> 00:25:55.936
this is what happens when you play the
00:25:55.977 --> 00:25:56.917
way you need to play.
00:25:57.557 --> 00:25:59.298
And the more they can replicate that,
00:25:59.638 --> 00:26:01.119
the more it just kind of like settles
00:26:01.180 --> 00:26:03.401
into your muscle memory and the more they
00:26:03.421 --> 00:26:05.462
can really start to get some prolonged
00:26:05.482 --> 00:26:05.942
success.
00:26:07.546 --> 00:26:07.705
Yeah,
00:26:07.766 --> 00:26:09.386
I see some winnable games coming up for
00:26:09.426 --> 00:26:09.926
the Flyers.
00:26:09.967 --> 00:26:11.407
And I'm not even saying that, you know,
00:26:11.928 --> 00:26:12.868
coming off, you know,
00:26:12.929 --> 00:26:15.049
when last night having some recency bias
00:26:15.089 --> 00:26:15.289
here,
00:26:15.349 --> 00:26:17.111
but I look at my some of the
00:26:17.151 --> 00:26:19.251
thoughts I had during that losing streak
00:26:19.271 --> 00:26:19.692
was like,
00:26:20.252 --> 00:26:21.814
are they just feeling themselves a little
00:26:21.854 --> 00:26:23.575
bit like coming into the year, you know,
00:26:23.615 --> 00:26:25.155
you finally make the second round,
00:26:25.675 --> 00:26:25.736
the
00:26:25.935 --> 00:26:26.936
The city's buzzing.
00:26:26.957 --> 00:26:27.897
The city loves you.
00:26:27.917 --> 00:26:28.038
Like,
00:26:28.398 --> 00:26:29.799
were they just feeling themselves a little
00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:31.182
bit too much thinking that they were
00:26:31.201 --> 00:26:32.042
better than they were?
00:26:32.542 --> 00:26:33.403
And then, like,
00:26:33.483 --> 00:26:34.525
I look at the Colorado game,
00:26:34.724 --> 00:26:36.948
and if they don't win the game before
00:26:36.968 --> 00:26:37.188
that,
00:26:37.667 --> 00:26:39.230
I think they get absolutely smoked against
00:26:39.269 --> 00:26:39.830
Colorado.
00:26:40.211 --> 00:26:41.633
I think they get that first win.
00:26:42.032 --> 00:26:43.134
Monkeys off their back.
00:26:43.494 --> 00:26:45.497
They're kind of, you know, we're good now.
00:26:45.856 --> 00:26:47.499
But I was looking at the Colorado game
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.120
and thinking –
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:50.261
Don't start feeling yourself again.
00:26:50.801 --> 00:26:52.243
Don't get that same thought.
00:26:52.324 --> 00:26:52.704
You know what?
00:26:52.765 --> 00:26:53.545
All right, we're back.
00:26:53.586 --> 00:26:53.786
You know,
00:26:53.806 --> 00:26:55.027
we're going to start snapping the puck
00:26:55.047 --> 00:26:56.969
around, lighting the lamp a little bit.
00:26:57.088 --> 00:26:58.090
No, they showed up.
00:26:58.111 --> 00:26:59.251
They played a great game,
00:26:59.291 --> 00:27:01.493
good three periods of puck, and it showed.
00:27:01.694 --> 00:27:03.457
It showed on the goal scorer.
00:27:04.336 --> 00:27:05.397
and on the win column.
00:27:05.718 --> 00:27:07.818
And now you look at this upcoming games,
00:27:08.098 --> 00:27:09.319
Columbus, Buffalo,
00:27:09.700 --> 00:27:10.840
there's some winnable games here.
00:27:10.861 --> 00:27:13.461
And I think now that they're playing
00:27:13.501 --> 00:27:15.002
confident, not cocky.
00:27:15.363 --> 00:27:17.104
And I think that's a good way to
00:27:17.124 --> 00:27:17.684
look at it.
00:27:18.025 --> 00:27:19.286
And now they could go on a run,
00:27:19.365 --> 00:27:20.965
maybe try to get back to somewhere close
00:27:20.986 --> 00:27:21.826
to five hundred here.
00:27:22.666 --> 00:27:24.407
The two driving things for me that I've
00:27:24.428 --> 00:27:26.469
been thinking about a lot with these last
00:27:26.489 --> 00:27:28.049
handful of games is one,
00:27:29.111 --> 00:27:30.392
I tossed out a lot of the
00:27:31.913 --> 00:27:33.655
teams that lose their first eight games
00:27:33.756 --> 00:27:35.617
have never made the playoffs or there's a
00:27:35.698 --> 00:27:37.460
small short list of teams that do,
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.143
because there's so much parody in the
00:27:40.202 --> 00:27:41.884
league that I don't think that anybody's
00:27:41.963 --> 00:27:43.486
going to run away with it in October.
00:27:43.546 --> 00:27:45.307
So you can take that and kind of
00:27:45.327 --> 00:27:46.568
throw it aside for one.
00:27:47.170 --> 00:27:49.612
And then the other part was the idea
00:27:49.652 --> 00:27:50.153
that, uh,
00:27:51.686 --> 00:27:53.188
top of having some winnable games i look
00:27:53.208 --> 00:27:54.508
at the way they played and i go
00:27:54.607 --> 00:27:56.469
that level of play from the last two
00:27:56.528 --> 00:27:58.969
games if you would have done that against
00:27:59.670 --> 00:28:01.250
the devils in the second game of the
00:28:01.269 --> 00:28:02.871
season if you would have done that against
00:28:02.931 --> 00:28:04.550
detroit last week if you would have done
00:28:04.590 --> 00:28:07.011
that in any of the other games you
00:28:07.031 --> 00:28:08.073
know take your pick on a handful of
00:28:08.113 --> 00:28:10.153
others you probably win those games
00:28:10.492 --> 00:28:13.974
instead of overtime losses or coming up
00:28:13.994 --> 00:28:16.055
just shortened regulation by a goal or
00:28:16.075 --> 00:28:17.536
something like that you probably win those
00:28:17.576 --> 00:28:17.976
games and then
00:28:19.618 --> 00:28:21.162
could we be talking about something that's
00:28:21.201 --> 00:28:22.744
closer to a five,
00:28:22.845 --> 00:28:24.488
four and two start instead of a two,
00:28:24.528 --> 00:28:25.368
six and three start?
00:28:25.409 --> 00:28:25.869
If we are,
00:28:25.890 --> 00:28:27.633
it probably calms everybody down because
00:28:27.653 --> 00:28:28.674
that's going to put you in
00:28:29.548 --> 00:28:31.229
probably around a wildcard spot,
00:28:31.269 --> 00:28:32.568
which at the start is not that big
00:28:32.588 --> 00:28:33.169
of a deal.
00:28:33.808 --> 00:28:35.349
It's a big deal to look up at
00:28:35.390 --> 00:28:36.710
the standings every day and go,
00:28:37.010 --> 00:28:39.991
last place, last place, no wins,
00:28:40.011 --> 00:28:41.051
the only team...
00:28:41.192 --> 00:28:42.511
It actually kind of astonished me.
00:28:42.952 --> 00:28:45.232
They've got more regulation wins than
00:28:45.272 --> 00:28:46.354
three other teams in the Eastern
00:28:46.394 --> 00:28:46.773
Conference.
00:28:46.794 --> 00:28:49.615
They didn't have a win three days ago.
00:28:50.575 --> 00:28:52.096
That's the level of parity I'm talking
00:28:52.135 --> 00:28:52.476
about with...
00:28:53.547 --> 00:28:55.827
this could shift quickly and maybe they
00:28:55.867 --> 00:28:56.807
get back into the race.
00:28:56.847 --> 00:28:57.087
But I,
00:28:57.228 --> 00:28:58.627
I had wanted to see to your point,
00:28:58.688 --> 00:28:59.969
Alex, I wanted to see the same thing.
00:28:59.989 --> 00:29:01.348
It's like you want a game.
00:29:01.788 --> 00:29:02.628
What happens next?
00:29:02.669 --> 00:29:03.549
How do you follow it up?
00:29:03.569 --> 00:29:04.589
And now they followed it up with a
00:29:04.630 --> 00:29:04.950
win.
00:29:05.509 --> 00:29:06.890
So you've got a couple.
00:29:06.930 --> 00:29:08.931
Now I don't want to jump to like,
00:29:09.211 --> 00:29:10.550
it's two games in a row after,
00:29:10.691 --> 00:29:11.951
you know, nine straight win lists,
00:29:11.991 --> 00:29:12.791
but it's,
00:29:13.105 --> 00:29:14.445
You have a chance to build on something,
00:29:14.605 --> 00:29:15.727
and I think that that says a lot.
00:29:15.747 --> 00:29:18.326
And to your point about some winnable
00:29:18.366 --> 00:29:18.928
games here,
00:29:19.827 --> 00:29:21.627
Buffalo's been kind of hit or miss.
00:29:21.968 --> 00:29:23.929
Anaheim's on a losing streak right now.
00:29:24.269 --> 00:29:26.589
Columbus has had some similar issues to
00:29:26.609 --> 00:29:27.769
what the Flyers have gone through,
00:29:28.289 --> 00:29:30.330
if you've read anything that Rick Bonas
00:29:30.351 --> 00:29:30.790
has said.
00:29:30.871 --> 00:29:33.632
So he's not been shy about criticizing his
00:29:33.692 --> 00:29:34.291
own team either.
00:29:35.011 --> 00:29:37.134
And maybe you could end the month on
00:29:37.153 --> 00:29:39.035
a bit of a higher note before going
00:29:39.075 --> 00:29:41.977
into November and thinking, you know,
00:29:41.997 --> 00:29:43.597
possibly, you know, a week ago,
00:29:44.398 --> 00:29:45.118
everybody was thinking,
00:29:45.159 --> 00:29:46.180
where are they going to get the win
00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:47.921
in the rest of the month of October?
00:29:47.941 --> 00:29:49.182
There's no game on here that looks
00:29:49.221 --> 00:29:50.363
winnable with the way they've played.
00:29:50.462 --> 00:29:50.742
Now,
00:29:51.284 --> 00:29:52.724
maybe you can see a path where you
00:29:52.744 --> 00:29:55.066
get a few and build something positive.
00:29:55.686 --> 00:29:57.827
So I think that's...
00:29:58.848 --> 00:30:00.291
That's really an important part of what
00:30:00.311 --> 00:30:02.035
they're trying to do and having some
00:30:02.075 --> 00:30:04.940
success can help with that.
00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:06.462
Let's get to the player of the week
00:30:06.482 --> 00:30:07.826
because I think we all want to talk
00:30:07.846 --> 00:30:08.386
about this guy.
00:30:08.406 --> 00:30:10.570
He's had one week to this point.
00:30:56.897 --> 00:30:58.719
And you just look at what he's done.
00:31:00.500 --> 00:31:01.819
I can't believe the pace that he's on
00:31:01.861 --> 00:31:02.240
right now.
00:31:02.340 --> 00:31:03.641
It's, you know,
00:31:03.681 --> 00:31:05.261
for all the talk about goal scorers and
00:31:05.301 --> 00:31:05.521
Alex,
00:31:05.541 --> 00:31:06.923
we did a big season preview and both
00:31:06.942 --> 00:31:07.962
of us picked the same guy to be
00:31:08.002 --> 00:31:08.743
the leader in goals.
00:31:08.784 --> 00:31:09.324
And I,
00:31:09.384 --> 00:31:10.565
I'm starting to wonder if I should change
00:31:10.625 --> 00:31:14.527
my pick because six goals is far and
00:31:14.567 --> 00:31:16.448
far above anybody else on the team right
00:31:16.508 --> 00:31:16.788
now.
00:31:17.667 --> 00:31:19.169
And it just seems like he's got the
00:31:19.209 --> 00:31:19.749
scorers touch.
00:31:19.828 --> 00:31:22.150
I keep every time I find another clip
00:31:22.170 --> 00:31:22.990
from either, you know,
00:31:23.290 --> 00:31:24.771
both wins in particular, it's like,
00:31:25.765 --> 00:31:27.165
there's something that I can pull from it.
00:31:27.185 --> 00:31:29.688
And in particular, he just seems like,
00:31:29.708 --> 00:31:30.949
you know, three of these goals,
00:31:30.989 --> 00:31:32.009
he's going straight to the net.
00:31:32.069 --> 00:31:33.691
He's got a knack for going to the
00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:34.971
net right now and wanting to be in
00:31:35.011 --> 00:31:35.612
that area.
00:31:36.212 --> 00:31:38.233
And I think that that's such a huge
00:31:38.294 --> 00:31:39.414
part of his game right now.
00:31:40.796 --> 00:31:41.016
I mean,
00:31:41.076 --> 00:31:42.336
Rick talk had said it last night in
00:31:42.356 --> 00:31:43.298
his post game presser,
00:31:43.778 --> 00:31:45.660
he's scoring goal scorers goals.
00:31:46.059 --> 00:31:47.441
He's just having a knack for,
00:31:47.780 --> 00:31:49.363
he knows when that rebound comes out
00:31:49.462 --> 00:31:51.003
exactly where I have to be to be
00:31:51.023 --> 00:31:51.423
able to put it,
00:31:51.443 --> 00:31:52.164
the puck in the net.
00:31:52.484 --> 00:31:53.385
And yeah, like you mentioned,
00:31:53.746 --> 00:31:55.166
we both picked the same guy, uh,
00:31:56.407 --> 00:31:57.748
I mean, Matt, like right now,
00:31:58.308 --> 00:31:59.729
I don't see a world where anybody's going
00:31:59.749 --> 00:32:00.868
to catch up to him right now.
00:32:00.929 --> 00:32:02.630
He's just on that grade of a tear.
00:32:02.990 --> 00:32:03.789
And the funny thing is,
00:32:03.809 --> 00:32:04.951
when he was first coming into Philly,
00:32:05.270 --> 00:32:06.490
I feel like the big question was,
00:32:06.891 --> 00:32:07.951
do you want him to be the goal
00:32:07.971 --> 00:32:09.612
scorer or do you want him to rack
00:32:09.632 --> 00:32:11.212
up all these assists and have everybody
00:32:11.272 --> 00:32:12.113
else feed off him?
00:32:12.133 --> 00:32:13.733
And I thought that's what more of his
00:32:13.794 --> 00:32:15.193
role was going to be because watching him
00:32:15.213 --> 00:32:15.673
in Russia,
00:32:16.034 --> 00:32:18.174
I just saw more of a facilitator of
00:32:18.194 --> 00:32:20.036
the puck that let everybody else get the
00:32:20.076 --> 00:32:20.375
goals.
00:32:20.675 --> 00:32:20.855
But
00:32:21.596 --> 00:32:21.796
I mean,
00:32:21.836 --> 00:32:22.797
if he's going to play with the amount
00:32:22.836 --> 00:32:24.218
of confidence that he has right now,
00:32:24.278 --> 00:32:25.298
and you just see him,
00:32:25.719 --> 00:32:26.779
even when he's not scoring,
00:32:27.259 --> 00:32:28.601
just his puck handling skills,
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.541
it looks like a completely different
00:32:30.561 --> 00:32:31.982
player than the guy we saw last year.
00:32:32.903 --> 00:32:33.944
It's funny to me, Alex,
00:32:33.964 --> 00:32:35.445
because you had picked Trevor Zeger.
00:32:35.486 --> 00:32:36.826
We both picked Trevor Zeger to lead the
00:32:36.866 --> 00:32:37.968
team in points this year,
00:32:38.468 --> 00:32:40.388
but you had picked him specifically for
00:32:40.489 --> 00:32:41.309
playmaking ability,
00:32:41.329 --> 00:32:43.211
and he has a three-assist game last night
00:32:43.912 --> 00:32:45.452
and helped set up two of these goals
00:32:45.472 --> 00:32:46.032
for Mieczkow.
00:32:46.053 --> 00:32:47.875
So it's like maybe the roles are reversed
00:32:47.914 --> 00:32:48.474
a little here,
00:32:48.595 --> 00:32:50.415
like that Mieczkow can be a finisher for
00:32:50.455 --> 00:32:50.836
this team.
00:32:51.965 --> 00:32:52.826
Siobhan, you and I,
00:32:52.905 --> 00:32:54.886
we both like talk about the rookie season
00:32:54.906 --> 00:32:55.207
thing.
00:32:55.487 --> 00:32:57.207
It's like this.
00:32:57.307 --> 00:32:57.847
I mean, first of all,
00:32:57.867 --> 00:32:59.107
the pace obviously is even better,
00:32:59.127 --> 00:33:00.307
which is a sign of his growth.
00:33:00.347 --> 00:33:02.808
But there are things he's doing that are
00:33:02.828 --> 00:33:04.009
shades of his rookie season.
00:33:04.048 --> 00:33:05.089
And I don't know whether I want to
00:33:05.170 --> 00:33:06.849
pinpoint the goals he's scoring in
00:33:06.890 --> 00:33:07.630
regulation.
00:33:08.410 --> 00:33:10.490
I thought his shootout goal even against
00:33:10.530 --> 00:33:11.010
Seattle,
00:33:11.050 --> 00:33:13.731
that's shades of rookie season Mieczkow as
00:33:13.791 --> 00:33:14.011
well.
00:33:15.737 --> 00:33:17.458
how much do you see this when he
00:33:17.499 --> 00:33:18.239
practices?
00:33:18.278 --> 00:33:20.601
Because by all accounts,
00:33:20.661 --> 00:33:21.902
I've seen a lot of times where he's
00:33:21.961 --> 00:33:23.042
out taking optionals,
00:33:23.063 --> 00:33:23.844
which he didn't have.
00:33:24.023 --> 00:33:25.005
He doesn't have to do.
00:33:25.785 --> 00:33:27.066
It seems like he really wants to work
00:33:27.105 --> 00:33:27.646
on his craft.
00:33:28.737 --> 00:33:28.936
Yeah,
00:33:29.557 --> 00:33:31.298
you always see him talking to Tackett or
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:33.461
talking to guys like Sean Couturier,
00:33:33.501 --> 00:33:34.563
like the older guys.
00:33:35.343 --> 00:33:38.046
He's very much trying to learn from all
00:33:38.086 --> 00:33:38.665
around him.
00:33:38.746 --> 00:33:41.209
And guys have said that now that his
00:33:41.288 --> 00:33:42.369
English is a lot better,
00:33:42.410 --> 00:33:44.372
we've been doing press conferences with
00:33:44.412 --> 00:33:47.494
him in total English without a translator.
00:33:47.994 --> 00:33:49.977
That's helped a lot because he can
00:33:50.037 --> 00:33:51.719
understand what's being said to him and he
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.680
can communicate a lot more effectively.
00:33:54.381 --> 00:33:56.842
But I think Mitrov just experienced a lot
00:33:56.862 --> 00:33:59.384
of growth, not just as a player,
00:33:59.423 --> 00:33:59.723
you know,
00:33:59.844 --> 00:34:02.005
over the summer he was training like three
00:34:02.025 --> 00:34:03.385
times a day, I think he said,
00:34:03.766 --> 00:34:05.186
just to get himself in the best shape
00:34:05.227 --> 00:34:05.727
possible.
00:34:05.747 --> 00:34:08.407
But he's really grown as a person.
00:34:09.449 --> 00:34:09.688
You know,
00:34:09.909 --> 00:34:11.829
we were talking about his chemistry with
00:34:11.889 --> 00:34:14.130
Porter Martone and he said, you know,
00:34:15.072 --> 00:34:17.813
I know how Martone feels because I was
00:34:17.853 --> 00:34:19.873
in that same position in my rookie season.
00:34:19.914 --> 00:34:21.574
So I always try to help him and
00:34:21.635 --> 00:34:23.476
support him on and off the ice.
00:34:24.036 --> 00:34:25.976
And I think that is a huge factor
00:34:26.257 --> 00:34:26.876
of his game.
00:34:26.958 --> 00:34:28.057
And, you know,
00:34:28.597 --> 00:34:31.320
I think the not really knowing of, okay,
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:32.960
do you want Mishkov to be a facilitator?
00:34:32.981 --> 00:34:34.181
Do you want him to be a scorer?
00:34:34.260 --> 00:34:36.842
I think people may not have really known
00:34:37.023 --> 00:34:38.023
what to do with him.
00:34:38.083 --> 00:34:39.923
And that kind of had his game suffer
00:34:39.963 --> 00:34:42.284
because for all the talk about, you know,
00:34:42.766 --> 00:34:44.565
him liking to be the superstar and him
00:34:44.606 --> 00:34:46.606
being a selfish player or whatever it is,
00:34:47.507 --> 00:34:49.248
he ultimately does want to help the team
00:34:49.289 --> 00:34:49.628
be better.
00:34:49.668 --> 00:34:51.289
And he said that many, many times.
00:34:51.789 --> 00:34:53.490
So I think he's trying to take what
00:34:53.530 --> 00:34:55.871
the coaches are telling him and implement
00:34:55.891 --> 00:34:56.773
it into his game.
00:34:56.813 --> 00:34:59.233
And maybe that's not, you know,
00:34:59.414 --> 00:35:02.534
quite in tune with the way he naturally
00:35:02.594 --> 00:35:03.076
plays.
00:35:03.135 --> 00:35:04.675
But I think, you know,
00:35:04.755 --> 00:35:05.817
something in this season,
00:35:05.996 --> 00:35:08.237
there's been an understanding and he has
00:35:08.777 --> 00:35:10.398
maybe a little bit of a chip on
00:35:10.438 --> 00:35:12.059
his shoulder because he really doesn't
00:35:12.099 --> 00:35:14.280
like to lose in anything.
00:35:14.380 --> 00:35:16.101
So he just looked like a guy that
00:35:16.141 --> 00:35:17.702
was really tired of losing and he was
00:35:17.742 --> 00:35:19.684
like, all right, I'll just do it myself,
00:35:19.764 --> 00:35:20.023
I guess.
00:35:20.864 --> 00:35:21.784
Um, but yeah,
00:35:21.804 --> 00:35:23.304
I think there's a whole lot of factors
00:35:23.364 --> 00:35:24.405
this season, you know,
00:35:24.465 --> 00:35:27.027
from being better physically and feeling
00:35:27.086 --> 00:35:29.949
faster, not just, you know, skating wise,
00:35:29.969 --> 00:35:31.769
but he said like his hands feel faster.
00:35:31.809 --> 00:35:33.389
The stick handling is a lot easier for
00:35:33.429 --> 00:35:33.731
him.
00:35:34.371 --> 00:35:36.351
And just the fact that he is able
00:35:36.391 --> 00:35:39.373
to communicate more and he's able to kind
00:35:39.413 --> 00:35:41.813
of be more involved in that way is,
00:35:41.914 --> 00:35:42.695
has been a big help.
00:35:44.295 --> 00:35:45.516
It's so funny you said that because I
00:35:45.536 --> 00:35:47.378
think I tweeted the same thing watching
00:35:47.458 --> 00:35:49.059
Saturday's game that he looks like the
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:50.561
player who just doesn't want to lose
00:35:50.601 --> 00:35:51.061
anymore.
00:35:51.121 --> 00:35:52.481
And I'm going to do this myself.
00:35:53.101 --> 00:35:54.744
And it was so impressive.
00:35:55.463 --> 00:35:59.347
We've so I've seen him play in person
00:35:59.387 --> 00:36:01.728
enough times to see some of the theatrics
00:36:01.748 --> 00:36:02.349
that he can do.
00:36:02.429 --> 00:36:02.728
Alex,
00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:04.150
I want to know because this is what
00:36:04.831 --> 00:36:06.512
three games so far in the press box.
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.019
yeah three games okay so when it's right
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:10.760
in front of your seat practically and he
00:36:10.780 --> 00:36:12.041
gets the puck alone in front of the
00:36:12.081 --> 00:36:13.663
net and nearly goes between the legs
00:36:13.722 --> 00:36:16.403
what's going through your mind i could
00:36:16.463 --> 00:36:18.666
like i couldn't help but be unprofessional
00:36:18.846 --> 00:36:20.766
there for a second like it really was
00:36:21.367 --> 00:36:24.048
something crazy and reacting is not
00:36:24.128 --> 00:36:25.849
unprofessional yeah hearing is
00:36:25.909 --> 00:36:27.451
unprofessional reacting is not
00:36:28.097 --> 00:36:30.016
but I mean, not to out anybody,
00:36:30.057 --> 00:36:31.697
but I think the entire press box had
00:36:31.757 --> 00:36:33.637
the exact same reaction when he pulled it
00:36:33.757 --> 00:36:33.878
out.
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:35.978
You could just tell like,
00:36:35.998 --> 00:36:38.699
that's a kid who has all the confidence
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:39.480
in the world right now.
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:39.820
Like that,
00:36:39.860 --> 00:36:41.699
that was something that you would have
00:36:41.739 --> 00:36:42.981
never seen that you would have seen his
00:36:43.021 --> 00:36:43.440
rookie year.
00:36:43.460 --> 00:36:44.300
We saw him, you know,
00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:46.382
trying Michigan's all the time.
00:36:46.601 --> 00:36:47.862
Like he was just doing crazy stuff.
00:36:47.882 --> 00:36:49.442
His rookie year didn't see a lot of
00:36:49.461 --> 00:36:49.882
it last year.
00:36:49.902 --> 00:36:51.682
And I think it was the confidence factor
00:36:52.123 --> 00:36:53.943
that he has now versus last season.
00:36:54.324 --> 00:36:55.264
Now he just seems like,
00:36:55.943 --> 00:36:57.786
I'm taking over this game and there's not
00:36:57.826 --> 00:36:59.047
really much you can do about it.
00:36:59.286 --> 00:37:00.688
I mean, on his second goal last night,
00:37:01.009 --> 00:37:02.389
he's taken kale McCarr,
00:37:02.750 --> 00:37:04.672
one of the best defenders in this league
00:37:04.972 --> 00:37:06.773
on a merry-go-round around the net and
00:37:06.793 --> 00:37:08.094
then puts it on and gets a goal.
00:37:08.195 --> 00:37:09.635
Like that's just confidence.
00:37:10.077 --> 00:37:12.559
That is something you haven't seen from
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:13.460
him in a long time.
00:37:14.228 --> 00:37:15.728
I'll ask you both if you remember the
00:37:15.789 --> 00:37:18.030
goal that I referenced it last night.
00:37:18.771 --> 00:37:20.010
You posted the video, Alex,
00:37:20.351 --> 00:37:21.371
when you tweeted out the goal,
00:37:21.411 --> 00:37:23.813
and I shared it and made a reference
00:37:23.833 --> 00:37:24.072
to this.
00:37:24.534 --> 00:37:25.574
In his rookie season,
00:37:25.614 --> 00:37:28.715
it might have been six or seven games
00:37:28.755 --> 00:37:29.916
into his career at this point.
00:37:29.936 --> 00:37:31.416
They're playing Minnesota at home,
00:37:31.938 --> 00:37:34.159
late October, and he took a shot.
00:37:34.518 --> 00:37:35.900
He didn't quite do the same thing where
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.099
he went all the way around the zone,
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.280
but he took a shot from almost the
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.382
same spot, it felt like, through traffic,
00:37:40.461 --> 00:37:41.302
from a distance.
00:37:42.105 --> 00:37:44.927
After kind of doing that lateral movement
00:37:44.967 --> 00:37:47.028
along the blue line and it just looked
00:37:47.108 --> 00:37:49.090
so much like rookie Mieczkow.
00:37:49.110 --> 00:37:51.791
It was like I looked at that when
00:37:51.831 --> 00:37:52.793
I've seen this before.
00:37:52.873 --> 00:37:55.173
I know this level of confidence in the
00:37:55.193 --> 00:37:59.277
player and it's exciting to see him get
00:37:59.297 --> 00:38:01.059
back to that level and to give people
00:38:01.139 --> 00:38:03.900
something specifically right now that they
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:05.621
can get excited about with him because.
00:38:07.146 --> 00:38:08.606
you were looking for anything like that
00:38:08.626 --> 00:38:09.447
during the course of it.
00:38:09.467 --> 00:38:11.668
And I think that like there,
00:38:11.688 --> 00:38:12.929
there's certainly no better way.
00:38:12.989 --> 00:38:13.248
I felt,
00:38:13.449 --> 00:38:14.469
I felt this way at the end of
00:38:15.130 --> 00:38:16.170
last season too, when,
00:38:16.710 --> 00:38:18.471
when you're looking to clinch a playoff
00:38:18.490 --> 00:38:21.393
spot and the two guys who kind of
00:38:21.452 --> 00:38:23.414
help you get back into the game when
00:38:23.434 --> 00:38:26.014
you're down to nothing are Meechkov
00:38:26.054 --> 00:38:28.056
scoring a goal and Zegra scoring a goal
00:38:28.076 --> 00:38:29.396
with a setup from Martone.
00:38:29.416 --> 00:38:29.856
It's like,
00:38:30.376 --> 00:38:31.797
these are the guys you want to see
00:38:31.856 --> 00:38:34.219
doing things and firing up the crowd and
00:38:34.259 --> 00:38:34.778
things like that.
00:38:34.818 --> 00:38:34.938
Like,
00:38:36.137 --> 00:38:37.480
That's the way that Saturday felt.
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.661
Michkov setting up Martone,
00:38:39.722 --> 00:38:41.103
Martone setting up Michkov.
00:38:41.563 --> 00:38:45.268
I had said over the offseason that at
00:38:45.349 --> 00:38:46.329
least in that one,
00:38:46.829 --> 00:38:48.893
that brief six-day period that everybody
00:38:48.932 --> 00:38:50.775
had where the dream was alive of Leo
00:38:50.795 --> 00:38:52.297
Carlson being part of the Flyers,
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:56.021
That if he's your top line center,
00:38:56.061 --> 00:38:57.483
then I think you just stick the two
00:38:57.523 --> 00:38:58.862
of them on the wings and see what
00:38:58.902 --> 00:39:00.403
happens, see what magic you can create.
00:39:00.443 --> 00:39:02.826
And they might not have a Leo Carlson
00:39:02.885 --> 00:39:04.327
level one C,
00:39:05.146 --> 00:39:06.768
but I think you have something with those
00:39:06.807 --> 00:39:07.909
two on a line together.
00:39:08.228 --> 00:39:09.690
I think that that is something that needs
00:39:09.730 --> 00:39:12.711
to remain part of your exploration going
00:39:12.731 --> 00:39:14.492
forward because there's clearly some
00:39:14.532 --> 00:39:15.132
chemistry.
00:39:16.653 --> 00:39:18.375
I love that because even down to I
00:39:18.474 --> 00:39:20.036
love the reaction because it was very
00:39:20.096 --> 00:39:20.376
similar.
00:39:20.476 --> 00:39:21.617
They were very similar goals.
00:39:23.257 --> 00:39:26.159
I love the reaction of Martone to Mishkov
00:39:26.179 --> 00:39:27.559
scoring on rebounds like that,
00:39:27.619 --> 00:39:28.501
like on the power play.
00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:29.201
It's like,
00:39:29.581 --> 00:39:31.163
that's exactly what the purpose of this
00:39:31.242 --> 00:39:31.362
is.
00:39:31.443 --> 00:39:32.503
I'm either going to go to the net
00:39:32.543 --> 00:39:33.704
or I'll take the shot that gives you
00:39:33.724 --> 00:39:34.244
the rebound.
00:39:34.664 --> 00:39:36.286
And I'm happy for you that you scored.
00:39:36.326 --> 00:39:38.507
And Mishkov seemed very happy when he got
00:39:38.568 --> 00:39:39.268
Martone a goal.
00:39:39.329 --> 00:39:40.449
It was like all of the above.
00:39:40.509 --> 00:39:42.811
So you love to see that from two
00:39:42.831 --> 00:39:43.751
of the younger guys.
00:39:44.032 --> 00:39:46.833
And maybe now that they're fueling some of
00:39:46.873 --> 00:39:47.393
this again,
00:39:47.514 --> 00:39:49.635
maybe that'll start everybody else going
00:39:49.655 --> 00:39:50.717
in the right direction.
00:39:50.757 --> 00:39:50.996
So yeah,
00:39:52.621 --> 00:39:54.405
I guess before we wrap things up,
00:39:54.465 --> 00:39:57.833
any final thoughts before we say farewell
00:39:57.853 --> 00:40:00.018
for the week and then see what happens
00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:01.342
for the next week of Flyers hockey?
00:40:04.335 --> 00:40:04.715
I mean,
00:40:05.117 --> 00:40:06.697
I think it's very easy to forget that
00:40:06.717 --> 00:40:09.599
we're still very much in October and it
00:40:09.659 --> 00:40:10.420
feels like, okay,
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.382
the season's been going on for a hundred
00:40:12.402 --> 00:40:12.902
years now,
00:40:12.981 --> 00:40:16.003
but I think we're still early enough to
00:40:16.063 --> 00:40:19.746
where the ship can get corrected and they
00:40:19.786 --> 00:40:23.588
can find things to build off of and
00:40:23.628 --> 00:40:24.269
get better.
00:40:24.590 --> 00:40:27.052
Obviously you can only give them so much
00:40:27.112 --> 00:40:27.632
runway,
00:40:27.911 --> 00:40:28.192
but
00:40:29.393 --> 00:40:32.235
I'm really intrigued to see how they take
00:40:32.916 --> 00:40:35.518
the winless streak and how they take these
00:40:35.577 --> 00:40:37.739
two games that they've won and they've
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:38.840
played really well in.
00:40:39.541 --> 00:40:41.003
And now the challenge is, okay,
00:40:41.023 --> 00:40:42.623
you have to repeat that and you have
00:40:42.684 --> 00:40:44.686
to be more consistent with it.
00:40:44.746 --> 00:40:47.367
So the more we see how they respond
00:40:47.427 --> 00:40:49.670
against different kinds of opponents and
00:40:49.710 --> 00:40:51.030
different kinds of matchups,
00:40:51.592 --> 00:40:52.913
I think that's going to be the real
00:40:52.952 --> 00:40:55.554
tell of where they're headed this season
00:40:55.614 --> 00:40:57.155
and where they're at right now.
00:40:57.195 --> 00:40:57.677
Because
00:40:58.577 --> 00:40:59.858
I don't want to take anything away from
00:40:59.898 --> 00:41:01.398
the playoff run last year,
00:41:01.438 --> 00:41:03.739
but I think that was maybe a bit
00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:05.641
of an overachievement for them.
00:41:06.181 --> 00:41:07.623
It was very much deserved and it was
00:41:07.643 --> 00:41:08.704
so fun to be a part of,
00:41:08.784 --> 00:41:10.905
but I think that they realize, okay,
00:41:10.945 --> 00:41:12.206
we have to come back down to earth
00:41:12.226 --> 00:41:13.547
a little bit and it's going to be
00:41:13.646 --> 00:41:16.949
interesting to see kind of where they end
00:41:17.048 --> 00:41:18.710
up with all of that in mind.
00:41:20.871 --> 00:41:22.791
I think this could be a really interesting
00:41:23.572 --> 00:41:25.552
month coming up for the Flyers because you
00:41:25.572 --> 00:41:27.273
have a lot of guys who were injured
00:41:27.494 --> 00:41:30.954
on IR coming back, you know, not soon,
00:41:30.994 --> 00:41:32.335
but, you know, in the next coming weeks.
00:41:33.175 --> 00:41:35.797
I'm starting to look at who could possibly
00:41:35.858 --> 00:41:38.119
be expendable with some of these guys who
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.840
have stepped into a role while those guys
00:41:40.860 --> 00:41:42.400
were on the injured list.
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:44.942
And I think Danny Breer could be making
00:41:45.461 --> 00:41:47.242
some phone calls or receiving some phone
00:41:47.262 --> 00:41:47.922
calls right now.
00:41:48.262 --> 00:41:49.563
that once those guys come back,
00:41:49.762 --> 00:41:51.384
this could be a different-looking team in
00:41:51.403 --> 00:41:52.184
the next month or two.
00:41:53.184 --> 00:41:53.764
It's all fair,
00:41:53.824 --> 00:41:56.425
and I think at this point,
00:41:56.465 --> 00:41:56.726
first of all,
00:41:56.746 --> 00:41:58.065
it's been a while since I've been down
00:41:58.085 --> 00:41:58.266
there,
00:41:58.306 --> 00:41:59.746
so I'm looking forward to Saturday just to
00:41:59.766 --> 00:42:00.666
be back in the building.
00:42:01.186 --> 00:42:02.706
I'm looking forward to Saturday for what
00:42:03.047 --> 00:42:06.427
it is because these games, I don't know,
00:42:06.447 --> 00:42:07.568
maybe it's just something about it being a
00:42:07.588 --> 00:42:07.969
matinee.
00:42:09.012 --> 00:42:09.672
All these other times,
00:42:09.711 --> 00:42:11.233
it's been a random Tuesday night in the
00:42:11.253 --> 00:42:11.952
middle of the year.
00:42:12.092 --> 00:42:13.494
The fact that they're putting this early
00:42:13.514 --> 00:42:16.695
in the year, Anaheim, the cutter game,
00:42:17.376 --> 00:42:18.635
it's all of the above.
00:42:18.996 --> 00:42:20.317
I'm excited to see what that looks like.
00:42:20.797 --> 00:42:22.277
Like I said,
00:42:22.297 --> 00:42:24.219
I'm excited that it has some juice back
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:24.559
to it.
00:42:25.539 --> 00:42:27.480
I can only imagine if we would have
00:42:27.539 --> 00:42:29.061
been sitting here talking tonight about
00:42:29.221 --> 00:42:31.061
eleven straight losses and
00:42:32.545 --> 00:42:35.010
You know what happens if it's a twelfth
00:42:35.190 --> 00:42:36.492
and you go into that game,
00:42:37.134 --> 00:42:41.199
whatever the number turns out to be.
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:42.001
You just don't want.
00:42:42.061 --> 00:42:43.483
I'm glad we don't have to envision what
00:42:43.503 --> 00:42:43.965
that's like.
00:42:44.045 --> 00:42:44.405
Instead,
00:42:44.545 --> 00:42:46.268
maybe can talk about a three game winning
00:42:46.289 --> 00:42:47.050
streak going in.
00:42:47.923 --> 00:42:49.505
And having a reason to be amped up
00:42:49.525 --> 00:42:53.409
for a game and another game not too
00:42:53.449 --> 00:42:55.349
different from last night where it's a
00:42:55.490 --> 00:42:57.672
West Western Conference team that's made
00:42:57.711 --> 00:43:00.315
some travel that ends up being part of
00:43:00.355 --> 00:43:01.114
a long trip.
00:43:01.215 --> 00:43:03.257
Anaheim's playing four times this week on
00:43:03.277 --> 00:43:04.398
the East Coast and.
00:43:05.418 --> 00:43:07.179
The first version of this didn't go so
00:43:07.219 --> 00:43:09.340
well for them against the Rangers.
00:43:09.581 --> 00:43:13.443
That was certainly not a good experience
00:43:13.543 --> 00:43:14.043
for them.
00:43:14.802 --> 00:43:16.744
And maybe that carries over somewhat, too.
00:43:16.844 --> 00:43:18.284
They came out firing away.
00:43:19.045 --> 00:43:19.585
Because, Alex,
00:43:19.606 --> 00:43:20.766
I remember we were both on the air
00:43:20.786 --> 00:43:21.106
together,
00:43:21.146 --> 00:43:22.927
and you were looking specifically at,
00:43:22.967 --> 00:43:23.967
look what happened with them.
00:43:24.027 --> 00:43:26.248
Look at all the—Beckett Seneca's having a
00:43:26.289 --> 00:43:27.429
great start in this and that.
00:43:27.548 --> 00:43:30.090
Now it seems like they've come back down
00:43:30.110 --> 00:43:31.271
to earth a little bit at the same
00:43:31.311 --> 00:43:32.871
time that the Flyers may be finding their
00:43:32.911 --> 00:43:33.192
footing.
00:43:33.271 --> 00:43:34.693
So maybe something different happens
00:43:34.753 --> 00:43:34.972
there.
00:43:35.938 --> 00:43:37.081
We'll all be around for it,
00:43:37.121 --> 00:43:37.802
whatever happens.
00:43:37.842 --> 00:43:38.884
Then we'll be back next week.
00:43:39.485 --> 00:43:40.465
Before we get out of here,
00:43:41.648 --> 00:43:42.608
I would like for both of you,
00:43:42.809 --> 00:43:44.271
tell everybody where people can find you
00:43:44.291 --> 00:43:45.813
because you guys deserve as much of a
00:43:45.833 --> 00:43:48.318
following as I get off of this, hopefully.
00:43:48.798 --> 00:43:50.181
So tell everybody where they can find you
00:43:50.201 --> 00:43:50.742
and what you're doing.
00:43:52.864 --> 00:43:56.527
Well, I'm pretty active on Twitter,
00:43:57.527 --> 00:43:58.088
SGNolan,
00:43:58.108 --> 00:43:59.329
because I'm not going to make anyone try
00:43:59.469 --> 00:44:00.391
and spell my name.
00:44:01.411 --> 00:44:01.632
But yeah,
00:44:01.652 --> 00:44:03.474
that's where I post all my stories and,
00:44:03.693 --> 00:44:03.914
you know,
00:44:03.954 --> 00:44:06.215
live tweet the games and all that fun
00:44:06.255 --> 00:44:06.536
stuff.
00:44:06.556 --> 00:44:08.197
You might get some soccer content in
00:44:08.237 --> 00:44:08.697
there, too,
00:44:08.737 --> 00:44:10.440
because the union are a wagon and I'm
00:44:10.460 --> 00:44:11.601
very happy about that.
00:44:11.701 --> 00:44:12.121
So yeah.
00:44:12.902 --> 00:44:15.045
Yeah, that's where I do all my flights.
00:44:15.065 --> 00:44:15.748
I was going to throw in,
00:44:15.768 --> 00:44:17.371
follow her on Instagram so you can keep
00:44:17.411 --> 00:44:18.713
track of her caffeine intake.
00:44:19.213 --> 00:44:21.398
Yeah, I am counting on my coffees.
00:44:21.458 --> 00:44:23.320
We're almost at a thousand on the year.
00:44:23.561 --> 00:44:24.182
Oh my goodness.
00:44:24.202 --> 00:44:25.184
We're almost at a thousand.
00:44:26.664 --> 00:44:29.306
Philly Licks on both X and Instagram.
00:44:29.327 --> 00:44:31.409
You can catch me at see my live
00:44:31.449 --> 00:44:32.869
game updates, my art,
00:44:32.929 --> 00:44:34.791
my pregame postgame articles that I post
00:44:34.811 --> 00:44:35.612
for the Flyers games.
00:44:36.132 --> 00:44:37.994
And then they have posted the hot dog
00:44:38.253 --> 00:44:39.755
counter for dollar dog night.
00:44:39.775 --> 00:44:40.835
Just some funny stuff.
00:44:40.896 --> 00:44:42.097
I'll try to throw up there as well.
00:44:42.677 --> 00:44:44.259
And then also on ninety seven three,
00:44:44.818 --> 00:44:45.940
the locker room, Billy Schwann,
00:44:46.221 --> 00:44:48.322
producer and co-host every Saturday and
00:44:48.382 --> 00:44:49.123
Sunday mornings.
00:44:49.663 --> 00:44:50.043
Yeah.
00:44:50.083 --> 00:44:51.824
Alex recently got a promotion to both days
00:44:51.844 --> 00:44:52.425
of the weekend.
00:44:52.485 --> 00:44:53.666
So, yeah.
00:44:53.766 --> 00:44:55.487
And and you're sitting in on Thursdays.
00:44:57.159 --> 00:44:58.402
While you guys are doing remotes, right?
00:44:58.862 --> 00:45:00.063
Jack of all trades right now.
00:45:00.463 --> 00:45:02.005
Sure.
00:45:02.204 --> 00:45:03.806
This is why I have all the Thursday
00:45:03.827 --> 00:45:04.106
games.
00:45:05.409 --> 00:45:06.630
I kid.
00:45:06.929 --> 00:45:07.210
Actually,
00:45:07.471 --> 00:45:08.452
because they've won two in a row,
00:45:08.512 --> 00:45:09.452
Alex is going to the rest of the
00:45:09.472 --> 00:45:09.693
games.
00:45:09.713 --> 00:45:10.773
I'm not going to any anymore.
00:45:11.394 --> 00:45:12.596
I'm not welcome back in the building.
00:45:13.177 --> 00:45:13.797
Again, I kid.
00:45:14.237 --> 00:45:15.378
That's going to do it for us.
00:45:15.418 --> 00:45:17.661
We're back every Tuesday, six o'clock,
00:45:18.141 --> 00:45:18.661
whether we're...
00:45:19.603 --> 00:45:21.786
all sitting in the comfort of our homes
00:45:21.826 --> 00:45:24.449
or whether we're some combination of us is
00:45:24.489 --> 00:45:25.110
in the arena.
00:45:25.210 --> 00:45:25.831
We'll be with you.
00:45:25.871 --> 00:45:28.994
So this has been the first episode of
00:45:29.014 --> 00:45:30.556
the season for flyers files.
00:45:30.577 --> 00:45:32.840
We'll be back again next week for Siobhan
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:34.141
Nolan and Alex Barardas.
00:45:34.201 --> 00:45:34.822
I'm Kevin Durso.
00:45:34.842 --> 00:45:35.422
Thanks for tuning in.