EP 70: Tony Raines

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I would like to welcome you back to the Chilenson Podcast.
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We have a special guest. This is Interview seventy, not
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Episode seventy. Interview seventy. It is Tony Time, Tony Rains.
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We talk about his journey on the real world, the challenge,
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why he took a break after Final Reckoning, if he'll
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come back, what really happened between him and Bananas and
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Natalie and Pauli and that elimination on Final Reckoning, and more.
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As always, all of my social media links will be
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down below. Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, I don't really use Twitter much,
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but Instagram and TikTok will be down below. And I'm
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hoping for episode seventy one, we have somebody from Southern
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Charm on Bravo coming on hopefully without further ado. Enjoy
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the interview. I would also like to say a special
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thank you to Leak Aka to Leak from the Mental
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Health check In podcast. If you don't know about this podcast,
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I will link it down below, go check it out.
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It is just a mental health check in. It's something
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we all need in this world. The Leak was a
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big help again Antony on the podcast, so shout out
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to leak.
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How you doing all right? Great? Oh dude, I'm doing
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lovely man. How are you? I'm good?
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Good, appreciate you the time out. You're a busy man
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right now.
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Oh dude, man, look never too busy, never too busy
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for you. I appreciate it.
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I appreciate it.
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You're too busy for the people. What's going on? Man?
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I'm good. The next gust of Chilling's own podcast is
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a challenge icon from the real world Telligons. It is
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Tony Time aka rains Tony. How are you doing today?
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Oh look, dude, I'm doing lovely man, I'm doing lovely.
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I can't complain I'm happy to be here talking to you.
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I'm reporting live from my daughter's nursery that is a
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work in progress right now. But you know, we got
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a little baby girl in the way, and so yeah,
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I figure this would be a perfect little setup to
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talk to you. It's kind of quiet in here. Yeah,
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you know, it's a peaceful, peaceful in the nursery, so here,
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I am. Man. Yeah, everything's all good though, Man, everything's
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all good. Good.
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So I always start with a mental health check just
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because the world's a crazy place. But it seems like
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you're in a good place mentally right now. You're about
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to another kid. Yeah, it's going well for you. It
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sounds like, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, I mean things can always be
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a little better, right, but they could definitely be worse. Man.
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So I'm very appreciative for where I'm at my life
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right now. I'm appreciative and very grateful for obviously, you know,
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our new baby that's all the way, and you know
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it's I'm thankful and griffl for you too, man to
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do like a mental health check in uh, you know,
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I spoke with Leak, which who you know Leek, right,
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we did, Uh, we did his mental health podcast and
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it was a very very great it was. It was
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a really good conversation I have. I actually encouraged my
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my brother was asking about it. I courage my brother
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to go in and talk with Leak as well. It's
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just and he's like, hey, man, should I do this podcast?
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I was like, yeah, I said, I said, you know,
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it's not like it's not something to where they're gonna
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want to talk about the show. So it's just really
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about like a good conversation around mental health and every
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once in a while you need that, you know, so
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sure appreciate appreciate that, appreciating you asking and for the
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most part, man, yeah, everything's everything's pretty good. I can't complain.
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Glad to hear it.
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Uh.
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Let's go back to the very beginning and work a
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way up. So you were on The Real World season
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thirty Skeletons Chicago. Yeah, could you tell us a little
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about that cast story, how that came to be? Were
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you trying to go on the road for a couple
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of seasons they just found you or do they just
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find you the first time applied you got on the show,
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Like what kind of happened to get you on that season.
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All right. So I actually spoke about this on Challenge
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Mania the last time I was on the Challenge Challenge
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Mania podcast with Scott and Derek and the one I
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did with Devin and I talked about my like origin
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story of how I got on the show, and it's
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it's it's crazy, man. So I've never tried out for
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any of the reality shows. I never signed up for anything.
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Not not knocking it. I just I just never did that.
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So yeah, you know, I was twenty five at the time.
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I was working, uh working full time job. Actually I
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was in like my basically my career right at that
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time and in construction. And my buddy, my buddy, was
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trying out for these shows and he was like you know, uh,
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he was like a model slash actor type guy and
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he was doing all that and he signed up for
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Real World. They called him back to like, hey, I
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need to make this, uh this casting video. Will you
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helped me out? So long stair short, I helped my
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buddy make his casting video to send into Real World,
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and they were like, hey, who's your buddy in the video.
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They were asking about me in his video and they're like, hey,
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tell him to send a video in too, So I
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was like, all right, you know, my buddy tells me.
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But I was like, all right, so I sent one
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in and yeah, here I am now talking to you.
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So that that's how I got casting on the show.
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Is my buddy put me in his casting tape. I
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got noticed by one of the producers. They are like, hey,
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I want you to send one in. I went through
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the whole rigamarole, and you know, I don't know I
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said this before, but I don't know if I was
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like obviously, I guess I was a standout, but it
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wasn't you know. The Real World season that I got
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chose for was kind of gimmicky, right, So it was like,
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and I shouldn't say gimmicky because that's kind of selling
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it short. It's not the right word to describe it,
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because there was a lot of it's a lot of
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it's a it's not a gimmicky season. It's a very
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deep emotional season when you look at it and you
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look at the details of everything that went into it
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and the people why they got casted out there. So
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I was casted because of my history of my past
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with you know what I was where my skeletons was right,
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and going through that process, the casting process, it was
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they were digging into my past and my history and
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my relationships. And that was one of the main reasons
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why I got on the show because I was very
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open with all that at the time, and my skeletons
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was obviously it was it was it was girls. It
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was girls, right, it was it was girls of my past,
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you know, women that I was in a relationship with
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that just you know, that whole that whole deal, which
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I get uncomfortable now talking about because it's like, I'm
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so far removed from that. We're talking twelve years ago now, right,
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So I'm like a night it's night and day difference
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of the person I had now so then. So yeah,
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that's how I was chose to get on the show
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is because my buddy put me in one of his
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casting tapes and then I just had I fit there
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there what they needed for that season it and so
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I got I got cast it on the show, and
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the rest is history. Perfect.
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Now, your friend that was the one I want to
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be on the show. I need jealousy on his part,
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or I don't.
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I don't think there was a lot of jealousy. It
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was kind of more like my buddy was like, hey, man,
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if you make it, then we both made it kind
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of thing, you know. And I honestly believed that he
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probably would have got cast it on the show if
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he would have been more open, yeah, and and more
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honest with the producers and been more vulnerable, because that's
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what these that's what these producers and people they want
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to see that they want to see your vulnerability. If
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you're not going to be open and honest and vulnerable
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with them just talking to one on one like a
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casting call, and you can't, like when you go face
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to face with him, Lord knows, you're not going to
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be an open book when they put them cameras on
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you and they started filming, like you're you're gonna you know,
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you're just not gonna be the person looking for So
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I think if they, like I said, if he would
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have been more open, uh, and they they would have
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noticed that he would have got cast it on the
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show too, because I mean, he's you know, just like
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just like I was at the time. You know, it
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was young, good looking guy, charismatic, all that had had
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all the attributes you could think of, and he had,
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you know, he also had with that, he also had
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you know a lot of relationships with with you know,
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females and things like that that could have related to
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the show. But yeah, I don't think any jealousy.
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Okay, And did what did you know about the Real
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World and the Challenge before you got into this world?
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I mean, because like you said, you didn't apply, they
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kind of just reached out to you. So did you
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watch the show? Do you know about it? What did
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you know about you?
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I watched the show. Obviously everybody watched the show, right,
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I mean, it's a huge, huge phenomenon. I'm growing up.
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It was, you know, I tried to tune in all
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the time, but as I got older, I grew away
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from it. And so when I was when I was
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cast to be on Real World or when I was
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going through the casting process, I had to like brush
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up all my challenge knowledge and like go back and
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look or well no, no, actually online When I was
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getting casted for Real World, they gave me some advice,
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and I'm glad, and I guess I'm glad I followed.
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So what they told me was like, hey, listen, we
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don't want you going back and looking at any old
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seasons or anything like, don't go back and look, because
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what you're gonna do is you're gonna like stereotype or
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self and you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna like wind
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up clean to a character or are you gonna try
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to like form a narrative with yourself out there, like
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we just want you to be you, Like this is
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why we picked you. You're raw, you're real. We want
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this guy. Don't go look at other seasons and then
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it's gonna you're gonna get your own head. So I really, really,
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I literally didn't like look at any old seats. I
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was like, all right, this is this what they want,
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let me give them me. Uh. And the last season
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I had watched the Real World was probably like and
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all watched San Diego, and I watched Austin, I watched
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Las Vegas. Obviously, I watch a little bit. I think
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I watched a little bit of Portland maybe, But that's
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kind of that. That was That was really which point.
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It was only two seasons before mine.
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It was.
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I was just I wasn't really into it at that point, Like,
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but I did grow up watching it. I grew up
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watching Rower in the challenge. But yeah, as far as
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like when I was getting ready to go out there,
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i'd kind of already removed myself from from really tea.
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I wasn't really a big TV guy at that point. Okay.
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And then I think it was episode four, maybe episode
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five where the skeletons first start coming in, right, So,
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did you guys have any idea of the skeletons coming
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in prior? Or was it a complete shock to you?
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I know this season prior was Explosion where the excess
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came in, which was similar type theme. I guess, So
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was this something like you guys knew what's gonna go
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ahead and happened?
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No? No, no, no, no no, we no, we had
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we had no idea, so they they I guess I
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had no idea. I didn't know what was coming for me.
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I thought I thought it could be like, you know, uh,
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some bad blood between like maybe a friend of mine
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back home. Because going through the process, they asked you
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about everything. They asked you about your rust, ships with
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your family, relationships with your friends, relationships with females like
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across the boards. You just didn't know, like your work life.
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They were asking about everything. Across the boards you didn't
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really know what was coming for you. But when I
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got out there, a lot other castmates were like, hey,
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you know they did the explosion last season. I'm telling
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you they're gonna do that this season. It's it's there's
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something's coming, something's coming for us, something's coming for us.
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And I'll you know, we're sitting there in the house
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like two weeks in, nothing's happened yet, and I'm like, well, look,
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maybe guys, this is just going to be a straight
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up season, Like I think we got a really good,
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really good mix here. Uh, and maybe they're just gonna
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run with it like this, you know, Uh, back to
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the old back to the old days. Uh. But obviously
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we were We were dead wrong. You know. When the
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skeletons started coming in, it was like, oh, big surprise.
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I was. I was shocked by mind. I mean, god,
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I haven't thought about this stuff in a very long time.
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But yeah, just my reaction when my first skeleton came in,
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I can't remember. I was looking at the monitor. I
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was upstairs, I was looking at the mons and I
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was like wait, wait wait, wait, wait wait wait. I
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was like I couldn't believe it. Oh the wait, this
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isn't this isn't really happening. Uh. And then you know,
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a second skeleton comes in for me. Uh and that
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was another doctor couldn't believe that because it was it
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was those reactions for me was that was as genuine
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as it gets.
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So let's talk about the skeletons. You had Elizabeth and
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Alyssa obviously, Uh, where were you with them prior to
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the season? Like, was it I mean Alyssa, if I
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remember correctly, was like they put Stalker on the screen,
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you know what I mean, like they.
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Went for yeah, yeah, which is it? That's not that.
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Which I don't like. I don't think that's exactly what
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was happening. So where were you with those two skeletons
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prior to you know, filming?
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Really? Oh? Well with Oh man, it's been so long,
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Sin I even thought about all this stuff. We're talking
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twelve years ago. I I, oh no, man, it's man,
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it's such a different spot in my life now. I
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can't honestly don't even want to dwell on don't even
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want to. I don't even really want to give that thought.
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Like I don't even need to go I don't even
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we're talking about mental health. I don't even need to
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like bring my head space back to that point, dude,
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I don't know. It was a yeah, that was a
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long time ago. I don't think I was in great
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spots with with with either you know.
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And.
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Yeah, well I'm gonna I'm just gonna lead that'll leave
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out alone. Man.
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Uh So, your cast, you know, was very chaotic. I mean,
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Jason was getting into arguments. Brow know, Sylvia and Nicole
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Madison had a lot of people against her. When you
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guys left the show, left the season left Chicago, was
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there a group chat? Was there people communicating? Obviously this
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was twelve years ago, so amount of people that still
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talk might be different. But how long would you guys
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all keep in touch after the show?
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I mean, for the most part, I think we all
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pretty much we kept in touch a good bit, you know,
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once the season aired. I think there was some there
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was some difference between like me and Bruno where I
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think he just he was such a lone wolf, you know,
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So I don't know how much communication was there with
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him as far as the other cast members. I know
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there wasn't a whole lot for me with him, especially
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once the season started to air, But everybody else I
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had a fair amount of contact with after the season
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for sure.
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Okay, so let's get into the challenge. You're on Bloodlines
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your first season, you leave early, dude an injury. Was
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there any hesitation to do the challenge once they called
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or were you like, no, this is I mean, I'm
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gonna do this. I'm down for this for sure.
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Well, it was a little bit of hesitation because you know,
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we did Real World. So we did Real World. We
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came back in November. We came back in November, and
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then there's a lot of.
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Downtime and just kind of run the wave on that, right,
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trying to balance like social life, trying to balance work life,
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like trying to get back into the swing of like
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the real world, like.
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On my actual reality. And that took that took a
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little while. You want to talk aout mental health, man,
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That was a that was a mental roller coaster for
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me for sure, just just trying to uh, just just
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trying to process everything and trying to come for hid
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what's going on around me and like and then and
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then at the same time thinking about like what is
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the magnitude of what I just did? What's the magnitude
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not as like not like on society, on society, but
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like on my actual life, like how does this affect
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me in my every day in the in the present
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and in the future. You know. It was so there
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was a whole lot of processing there going on. And
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by the time I got back into the swing of things,
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like you know, back into my work life and things
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like that, I'm starting to feel some type of normalcy.
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The Challenge called and so we got back in November.
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It took me probably up until April. Uh got back
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in November, the show was done, it aired, and it
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was over I think in March, and then April I
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was like back, like I just kind of let it.
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I was like, all right, that's done. All right, we
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got to get back to real life here, back to reality.
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I got back into uh swing of things, will work.
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And then a month after that it was I think
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it was May. I get a call by the Challenge
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and like, hey, you want to do the Challenge. I'm like, man,
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my life's just getting back to normal. Like but I
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can't say no, right, I can't say no, Like I
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didn't go through all that and do the real world
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and like that's just you know, that's just gonna be
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it for me, So I got to get something else
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out of this, you know, and the fact that like
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I gave up three months of my life to go
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film this, and then an additional three or four months
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when I got back home, just to like get my
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sanity back and get my financials back in order, because
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you know, they only paid us like three a bucks
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a week out there. So it was like me going
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from being twenty five years old and all of these
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bills and responsibilities I got back home. So when I
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get to go do the real world and come back
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and it's like all that's in shambles and to kind
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of get myself back, you know, get get back on
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my feet. It was it was some hesitation there, but
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I was like, you know, I well there. Yeah, so
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there was a little hesitation, but it was like, no,
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I got to get something else out of this, Like
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y'all put me through all. Now at least y'all have
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given me a chance to go out there and try
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to win some real money. Yeah, So that was a
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thought process. It's like, yeah, it's cool, it's awesome. I'm
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gonna be able to go back out there and be
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a TV and like compete all this other stuff. But
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at the same time, it's like I got the money
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on my mind, like that's the main that's the main goal.
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So yeah, man, I gave it a little hesitation thought
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and really it was just yeah, let's go, let's let's
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let's do it what we gotta do.
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So your first two seasons were I mean you left
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early both seasons, right, your first one you ruptured your
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spleen I think it was, which is crazy crazy, Yeah,
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your second one you got dq'ed with Camilla. Yes, talking
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mental health. Right after those first two seasons, what was
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going through your mind about the challenge overall? Were you like,
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I need to get back and get this win. Were
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you like, maybe this isn't for me, like this is
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such a disaster of a like show, Like what were
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you thinking after those first two seasons have been early unfortunately.
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Putting myself back in that headspace I'm trying to think,
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so rupture the spleen, crazy crazy. I had to do
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a split next split nect to me, next to me
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in another country. That was crazy, Like I just it
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was wild, sounds very very scary, very scary, and coming
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back healing up from that, going through like you know,
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back and forth with like medical and like legal stuff
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and like, hey, am I going to get compensated or
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you're gonna be able to take care of like y'all
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because there's like post operative stuff, right, just like post
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care when it comes to that, just it's like how
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does that work? There's a lot of stuff dealing with
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a lot of that, and you know, everything was solid
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on that end though, and I healed up. I was
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pretty good. And again, man, when you get back from
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these shows, it's like especially like being like just a
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regular person like h like, I'm I'm just like you, Dylan,
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you know what I mean. It's like I gotta like
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I have to, like I live a normal functioning life.
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Like yeah, so get back and get healed up. It's
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like I'm not going to fit as soon as I
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get done healed up. Like I don't just go back
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and jump in front of a camera. No, I'm like
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I have to go like do like regular job stuff
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and like you know, so boom, heel up back and
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again back into the swing of things, right, and then
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Challenge calls, Hey, you got cleared, y'all healed up? We're
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filming another one. You're ready to come back out. I'm
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like Yeah, let's let's do it. Let's do it. Let's
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do it. I gotta you know, I'm glad you'll give
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me another shot. And so you ramp yourself up. And
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I guess what I'm trying to get with what I'm
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trying to uh, what I'm trying to get to here, Dylan,
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is that you're kind of understanding like that the beginning
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of the roller coaster, right like this it's just a
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it's a big up and date. It's like a and
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it's all everybody, not just you know. I thought that
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this was just me starting now. I was like, man,
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there's a there's a lot of mental like a lot
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of a lot of mental a lot of a lot
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of mental like toughness. You got to have to to
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be able to do this, because even the vets like
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I've talked to Bananas about this before, I've talked to
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ct about I've talked to Lee about this. Like these
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guys too, they go through it each time like it
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doesn't I don't. I don't know if it necessarily gets easier,
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but I guess you have better ways of coping with
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it and dealing with it, right, so you know, you
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go out there high pressure you're filming boom, you know
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your thin. Then you go back to normal life and
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it's just like this big roller coaster. It's like you
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gotta really when you get home, you got to really
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decompress and just kind of process of everything that went
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on out there. And then god knows what you did
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on camera, if you embarrass yourself and you didn't perform
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as well as you should have, or you know, you
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got heard, you got kicked off in my case, you know,
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like a bunch of different things. So it's like it
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is mentally, man, it is exhausting. It is exhausting. There's
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an there was a lot of a lot of good
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stuff that comes with it, but man, but most part
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it's very very exhausting. So you know, I get the
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call back after Bloodlines eruption from us playing for Rivals three,
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I'm like, okay, yeah, we got to like we got
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it's you could say whatever you want after the season, right,
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but as soon as they call, it's hard to say no.
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It's hard to say no. So it's like, all right, yeah,
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I'm ready, let's do it. And this was gonna be
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like my I remember they they they let me come
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in the house last because it was like they made
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me feel a little special. It's like, oh Tony's back,
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like he got hurt and here he is. He's back.
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You know.
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I can remember that, and I'm like, all right, yeah,
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but going into that season, like I definitely want to,
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you know, I want to not not to get my revenge.
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I didn't have nothing to well, I guess I could
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avenge my own self, but no, that doesn't make sense either.
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But yeah, I wanted to come out there and like, Okay,
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I get another shot of this, Let's do a little better,
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Let's not get hurt this time. Yeah, and then you know,
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out there was obviously I went in a great I
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went in the greatest shape, and at that point point
478
00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:02.200
in my challenge career, I was letting a lot of
479
00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:09.599
like I was, man, I just I was just young
480
00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:11.200
in it, man, I was just really trying to figure
481
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.519
out my way. And then having a partner in Camilla
482
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:18.240
was just probably the worst thing ever, you know, because
483
00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.079
she was very she was very like entitled, and I'm
484
00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.559
like the underdog young guy coming in trying to prove myself.
485
00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:29.160
So any little thing I did, I felt like, you know,
486
00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:30.920
I was getting my you know that any little thing
487
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.640
I did that she criticized or thought I wasn't doing right.
488
00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:36.319
It crushed my ego and it hurt my pride and
489
00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.680
so like made me want to like lash out and
490
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:40.880
like you know, just and then you you know, you
491
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:43.200
do all that and you your offered a pressure cook
492
00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.519
out there and the challenge anyway, and you mix alcohol
493
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:47.880
with it, it's like, oh man, it's just it's a
494
00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:48.920
recipe for disaster.
495
00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:49.240
Man.
496
00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:51.279
And I just I wish I was I wish I
497
00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.640
could have been a little more mature at that point.
498
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:55.200
I wish I would have had a few more seasons
499
00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:58.039
under my belt, have gotten to know her a little more.
500
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:00.680
And I think we could have done really really, really
501
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.559
really good that season. Again, if I could have been
502
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.519
a little more mature and handle myself better, Uh, we
503
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:08.960
could have went I think we could have went far
504
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:12.079
in that game, you know, Devin. Me and Devin talked
505
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:14.759
about this. It probably would have been I mean, he
506
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:16.799
was just Devin and I I want to tear with
507
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:20.599
the skull pulling. That's that uh that season. But I
508
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:23.559
mean it's it's tough not to see myself in that
509
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:30.359
final with bananas, Sarah uh, Jenna and Vince if we
510
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.319
don't get sent home. So that was a big, big woman.
511
00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.519
That was a big regret of you know, I regret it.
512
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:38.559
Then I hated it was that was that was a
513
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.319
tough one to go home to and digest. And then
514
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:44.440
oh guy got kicked off the show and it's just
515
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:46.200
such not a good look and it was so terrible
516
00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:49.319
how I handle myself? And then okay, fright, it's I'm
517
00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.279
good now, I'm over it, right or not over, but
518
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.000
it's like okay, I'm okay with it, like I'm at
519
00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:54.759
peace now.
520
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:55.440
Uh.
521
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.440
And then Bovid airs and you got to relive it
522
00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:02.559
all over again. It's like, oh that's the dude. Yeah,
523
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.960
it's off and it's like, you know, just sough.
524
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:08.759
Yeah. I had I had a car on a couple
525
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.000
of weeks ago, and she was talking about how this
526
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.920
last season she left early because of her mom. Yeah,
527
00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:19.319
reliving that after dealing with it was so hard for her, right, yeah,
528
00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:23.640
only anything with having to watch it back. Oh look
529
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:26.279
the trauma of it. I mean again, I had a
530
00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:27.680
Liviya on a couple of weeks ago and she's like, oh,
531
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:29.640
I love watching it back because I just won, you know,
532
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.519
season forty one. Oh, there's people that don't love to
533
00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:36.519
watch things back, you know, So it's interesting the dynamic
534
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:37.319
of it for sure.
535
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:39.319
Yeah.
536
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:40.920
I want to get into Sylvia a little bit, just
537
00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.960
because she was on your Oweken rail World season so
538
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:47.920
on an invasion. It seems like you and Nicole were solid, right.
539
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:50.240
It seems like there was a Skeleton's crew that were solid,
540
00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:53.400
and then Sylvia was not with that crew, right, Sylvia
541
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:59.000
joined aka the Lavender Ladies with Ashley Amanda and Dane Landrum.
542
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.440
Yeah, she flipped on us, she flipped. Were you expecting that?
543
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.519
Like, were you close with Sylvia outside of the show
544
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:08.960
where you were like talk a lot or was it
545
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.279
kind of like just an acquaintance. I mean, where do
546
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.039
you and Sylvia stand up now the years later?
547
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.240
Well, you know, looking back on that, it's like at
548
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.119
the time, I was, dude, I was crushed. I was
549
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.720
like sickening. I was I couldn't believe it, you know.
550
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:28.079
But at the same time, it's like, all right now,
551
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.519
like in hindsight, looking back on it, obviously I've grown,
552
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:35.240
I'm matured a lot. Like, Okay, well, why did I
553
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:37.440
automatically expect Sylvia to have my back?
554
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:37.599
Like?
555
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.799
Why did you automatically like you was I was, I
556
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:42.880
was I doing my And what I mean by that
557
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.599
it's like, well, I can answer my own questions, say, well, yeah,
558
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.000
she automatically should have had your back, like y'all, y'all
559
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:51.160
lived in Chicago for three y'all went through h once
560
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.359
in a lifetime experience together, Like what do you mean?
561
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.880
Like yeah, But at the same time when we did invasion,
562
00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:59.839
was I like doing my part and making sure that
563
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:02.839
was still tight and like we were still good on
564
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.640
that level? You know. That's why I kind of I
565
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:06.440
don't want to put all the blame on her, like, hey,
566
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:10.480
shame on you, Shame on you. She just found closeness
567
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:13.119
in a better bond with those people in that season
568
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.440
that I can't really knock because she stayed in close
569
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.880
contact and close touch, in touch with those those castmates,
570
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:23.519
uh till this day, Like they're you know, the Lavender ladies,
571
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:27.319
they're uh, they're pretty click tight. Man. So at the
572
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:29.480
time I was, I couldn't believe it. I feel like
573
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:36.640
I was betrayed. And you know, but again, was I
574
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:40.319
doing everything I needed to or did I just automatically
575
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:44.759
expect her loyalty? You know? So again with growth maturity.
576
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.279
In hindsight, it's like, hey, what could have I done better?
577
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:48.960
I guess I'm I and I'm I'm that type of
578
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:50.720
guy too. It's like, now, what could have I done better?
579
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:57.799
What could have done the change things? So and I
580
00:27:57.839 --> 00:27:59.279
was I was just about to say, I don't think
581
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.000
I could ever forget of her, but obviously I do,
582
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.400
because you know, that's that's that's a big part of
583
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:11.000
growth and growing up and and moving on is being
584
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.519
able to forgive someone. I'll never forget it, you know, yeah,
585
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.359
I'll obviously never forget it, but I definitely could forgive her.
586
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:18.839
And she was also doing it for, you know, the
587
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.559
betterment of her games at the end of the day,
588
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:22.480
Like I can't knock her in the challenge. It's like
589
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.240
all is fair, right, So, and I've had my share
590
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.440
of moments where people feel like I've betrayed them, So
591
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:31.920
I get it. And you got to worry about yourself
592
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:35.839
in that game number one, and it's it's sometimes it
593
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.079
could be a cruel game. So I was on the
594
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:42.519
receiving end of that, and you know, I didn't realize
595
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.319
at the time. And another reason I'm like kind of
596
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.119
being hard on myself about it is like I came
597
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.519
into that season not realizing what I had, and one
598
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:53.319
of the producers actually brought it to light for me
599
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.319
and like kind of got me to better understand, like, Hey,
600
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:58.680
did you not see the writing on the wall? Did
601
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.759
you not see like that season and was set up
602
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:02.680
for you? I was like, what do you mean. They're like,
603
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.920
we'll think about it. Nobody else had four cast members
604
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:12.240
from a show out there you did. It was myself, Bruno, Nicole,
605
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:16.240
and Sylvia. Like it was four of us from from
606
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:19.319
real world skeletons out there, like it was we were prime.
607
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.720
Like if we could have stayed tight, uh, we could
608
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.359
have really done some damage that season, right and and
609
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.079
if I could have played my cards a little better,
610
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.680
I guess this is what I'm trying to say. But
611
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.119
you know, and it's wild that I had that set
612
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.200
up going out there and it but it immediately flipped
613
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.039
and it was like, wait, we're trying to get each
614
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.960
other out of here now, Like Bruno, they pinned me
615
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:46.480
and Bruno against each other, we're roommates, skeletons, they pinned
616
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:48.920
each other. They pinned us against each other in the
617
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.680
first elimination, and I sent Bruno home. I come back,
618
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.279
I'm like, oh man, this is this is crazy. And
619
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.039
then the very next chance that Sylvia gets while I
620
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.599
say Sylvia, the the very next chance the house gets,
621
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.799
I go back into elimination. And Sylvia played again, played
622
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.680
a part of that. She voted me in. She could
623
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.279
have actually been the swing flat for me at that time.
624
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.319
Again to keep me out of elimination, she put me
625
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:16.440
in there, and unfortunately I lost to Shane. Uh the
626
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:20.480
Tuk talk challenge, uh, and no excuses, but my tuk
627
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.000
tuk and the same one that Kayla used was there
628
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.400
was a malfunction there and that's why. But anyway, I
629
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.119
don't take it. I want to discredit, to take anyway
630
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.559
anything away from Shane. But yeah, man, that season, that
631
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.799
was a speaking I mean, I guess your original question
632
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:40.519
was asking about Sylvia. But yeah, I forgive her obviously,
633
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.160
I never forget and I wish her all the best. Man.
634
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:45.759
She's got a family now and stuff like that.
635
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:52.519
No interesting, who do you still talk to from your season?
636
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:54.240
I mean, you and the Cole were always close on
637
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:54.920
the show.
638
00:30:55.079 --> 00:31:01.000
Me and Nicole, Me and the Cole and uh, it's
639
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.319
been a while, but me and Violetta. Uh, Violetta stayed
640
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.640
pretty tight after the season for years and years because, uh,
641
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.480
she actually she came down to New Orleans and she like,
642
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.119
she met a couple of my friends too close, a
643
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:14.720
couple of my close buddies from down here that she
644
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.079
like hit it off with. And she would always come
645
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.559
down even if I couldn't do anything because you know,
646
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.119
I'm in dad mode. She and she's just in party mode.
647
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:24.960
She would come down and she would a party with
648
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.480
my friends and stuff like that. So that was, Yeah.
649
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:31.240
She she was one that always, uh stay in communication
650
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:35.119
with Nicole's well, Bruno, I don't I don't even know.
651
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.720
I have no idea what happened to Bruno. Man, I
652
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:42.039
have no idea. After Invasion, it was a little bit
653
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.079
like me and him got like we're kind of cool.
654
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:46.720
We were really cool on Invasion actually, and then after
655
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:48.480
I think we might ask a communication, but he just
656
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.240
I don't know what happened to him. He was always
657
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.200
a strange guy. And then Jaysoni every once in a
658
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.799
while to talk with Jason. Jason still you know, out
659
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:03.839
there trying to do his thing, and but yeah, that's uh,
660
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.279
as far as now, it's probably really just Nicole and
661
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.200
then Jason and the Violetta like here and there a
662
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:10.599
little bit.
663
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.119
Okay, it's interesting, man. I just I had Jordan on
664
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.119
in December and he was like, I talked to everybody.
665
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.519
He's like, I talked to Naivery, Johnny Marlin, I talked
666
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.319
to everybody like we're not best friends, but we all talk.
667
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:28.160
So yeah, your cast was just like not like the
668
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.279
Portland cast at all.
669
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.279
Well, I mean, Sylvia and Violetta I think a best
670
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.440
friends to this day. So that was that's good, right,
671
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:41.039
Uh yeah, our group though, man, just I guess we
672
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:43.319
didn't really stay really close knit.
673
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.839
Which is I mean, it's you guys. Was twelve years ago,
674
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:47.799
you know what I mean.
675
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:48.960
It was twelve years ago.
676
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:53.079
How do you think a they're not doing this show anymore,
677
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.440
but a real world Homecoming would go for you guys
678
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.759
if you had to live. I mean obviously you know
679
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.960
Madison would be who you have a child with, Bruno
680
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.119
who said you don't talk to anymore? Sylvia, you don't
681
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.200
talk to anymore. How do you think a season of
682
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.160
Homecoming where you just look like a week or two
683
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:10.880
back in Chicago would go?
684
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:13.559
Dude, they'd have to pay me a lot of money.
685
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.839
They have to pay me a lot of money. Man,
686
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.319
there's no way. There's no way, dude, no way.
687
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:22.039
Uh.
688
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.119
Two weeks living back in the house with all those
689
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:31.319
all those people would just I don't know, man, I
690
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:33.480
don't know. Yeah, they have to, they have to pay
691
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:34.319
me a lot of money.
692
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:35.759
Yeah, I mean, you guys are all moved. I mean
693
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:37.559
the Cole's pregnant now too. You guys are all.
694
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.559
More yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. God bless her,
695
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:42.680
God bless her. I'm so happy for her, so happy
696
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:44.559
for her. We're gonna have babies at like the same time,
697
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.680
me and her. Yeah, I think she's doing June. We're
698
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:51.839
doing June. So I'm super super super So yeah, I could,
699
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.039
definitely I could, to be honest, I could live with Yeah,
700
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.759
I could. I could do the Coal. I mean I've
701
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:58.519
lived with the Cole again on the Challenge House a
702
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:03.160
few times. Like she's yeah, it's that's cool, it's fine.
703
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.800
I mean it would just be crazy, man, have all
704
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:10.960
the original cast back together at the house for.
705
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:16.079
I mean, you have some extra situations with having a
706
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:17.440
kid with one of them, you know what I mean.
707
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:22.880
So it'd be it'd be a situation for sure. But
708
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:24.920
I I love I've been Nicole. I ran it to
709
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.960
her at the JFK Airport one time, Super down to earth,
710
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:34.039
super nice. She gets a bad rap, but I liked
711
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:34.400
the cale.
712
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.679
Yeah, I don't understand why she does. I don't know.
713
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:39.679
I don't I don't know where it comes from, Like
714
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.039
is it just like what is it that? Why does
715
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.000
she get a bad I.
716
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:44.840
Think it's the Car and Laurel fans.
717
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:48.480
Oh yeah, okay, wait, wait my bad, that's right. I
718
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.079
forget about that part of it. That aspect is like, wait,
719
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:55.599
she does have this like female drama thing where yeah,
720
00:34:56.039 --> 00:35:01.800
with the relationships, and so I forget.
721
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.280
Fifty to fifty split on like half Laurel fans half
722
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.199
Car fans, but they all agree, they all hate Nicole.
723
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.960
So it's like, yeah, get so bad, that's right, the
724
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:11.559
worst of both.
725
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:13.079
I forget about that part of it. Yeah.
726
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:16.480
Yeah, let's get into Vendettas. I think your best season.
727
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.079
I'm not counting Champs versus Stars or anything, but like
728
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:24.599
Flagship Vendettas, you take ut bananas right, you get to
729
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:28.719
the final. Can we talk about your thought process on
730
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.800
that bananas vote? I know Bananas has said like an
731
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.199
interviews and stuff, Well that wasn't even Tony's decision. People
732
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.800
were in Tony's ear. YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Let's talk
733
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.320
about that decision. I mean, I think it was a
734
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.159
great move, uh to take Bananas out, get to the
735
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.079
final What was going through your head? And then that
736
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.159
final where we were eventually you know, purged out.
737
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:53.360
Well, so again I got to go back to who
738
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:55.280
I was then and what I was thinking, what my
739
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:01.079
thought process was. So my thought process would be, hey,
740
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.559
if and I've said this before, if I'm gonna if
741
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.239
I'm gonna make a move, if I'm gonna make my
742
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.000
mark in this game, because at this point, like I'm
743
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.599
deep in the challenge I'm going into my was that
744
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.400
my fifth season, I think it was that my fifth
745
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:17.039
season and their Bloodlines Rivals Invasion thirty thirty Bandadas, Yeah,
746
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.079
so that was my fifth Going to my fifth season,
747
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.119
I was like, look, if I'm if I'm going to
748
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.679
make a mark, if this is what I'm going to
749
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.079
be doing for my life, like the rest of my life,
750
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.000
like I need to like really like make an impact.
751
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.119
This is gonna be And I'm feeling good this season,
752
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.159
I need to make some moves and if one of
753
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:35.920
those moves include getting bananas out. If I got a shot,
754
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.760
it's a big shot, I need to take it. I
755
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.400
don't want to be one of these guys. I don't
756
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.199
want to be one of these guys that we've seen
757
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:43.920
a thousand other times that come through and it's like, oh,
758
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:45.360
he's got a chance, he's got a chance to take
759
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:46.719
a swing. You got to say, just take a swing,
760
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:48.800
take the shot, and they don't take the shot. They
761
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.119
find some way to weasel out a crawfish out of it.
762
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.559
I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make the move.
763
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.519
I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna take the swing. Because
764
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:01.159
I'm telling you, there's so many pisoes, so many seasons
765
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.079
where we got these guys that are that were like
766
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:04.880
me at the time, like you know, the underdogs, the
767
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.840
up and comers, that had a chance to take a
768
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.440
shot and just they didn't. And I can remember watching
769
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.639
that or being around that, and I'm just like, why
770
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:15.239
wouldn't you? Why are you scared? Why are you scared?
771
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.360
And it's like, well, I'm just gonna play the scared
772
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.000
game and try like you know, make it to the
773
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:21.480
end and see if going it never works out that way,
774
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:23.480
it never works out for him, right, So I'm like,
775
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.679
I'm gonna I'm gonna take this shot. And also I
776
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:30.760
had a little bit of like a vendetta against Bananas,
777
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.760
which he doesn't talk about from the season prior, which
778
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.440
he's like, oh, yeah, well, man, I had your back.
779
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.119
I had your back. I had your back. It's like, Okay,
780
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:40.519
I understand you have my back when it was convenient
781
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:43.920
and cool for you to have my back. I understand that,
782
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.440
and I do appreciate him looking out in some different
783
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:49.480
scenarios for me on Dirty thirty. But at the same time,
784
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:51.960
I know where I was at in your pecking order,
785
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.719
and I know that I was not like fully protected
786
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.239
by you, right, And it was times where it was
787
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.119
like I was the odd man out and you made
788
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.760
me feel like the odd man out. So hey, we're
789
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.559
half through the season on Mendetta, is if I got
790
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:05.639
a chance here to get you out, because I know
791
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:07.119
at the end of the day, if we get closer
792
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.679
to that end, you ain't got my back anyway. Let
793
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:12.880
me just beat you to the punch basically. So, and
794
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:14.400
I also didn't want to be another one of those
795
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:15.880
guys who was like, oh, he was scared to make
796
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.840
a move. I just wasn't doing that, not when it
797
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.960
was like, hey, it's Tony time. I was locked in.
798
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:24.039
I had. I had a chip on my shoulder from
799
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.920
from Dirty thirty and how poorly I performed all the
800
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.639
dailies and all the challenges out there, and how I
801
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.679
was looked at as like the weakest guy. Was like,
802
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.239
I can remember I remember watching back because I got
803
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:40.840
eliminated right before the final. It was the final challenge,
804
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.960
right before the final, I got eliminated. The water and
805
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.199
the water thing. I can remember watching back and hearing
806
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.880
ct On, one of the confessionals say, Man, you know,
807
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.000
I'm kind of rooting for Tony here because I think
808
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:54.519
I got a better chance of beating Tony in that
809
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.920
final than I do Derek. And I'm like, oh, man,
810
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.000
Like I was just looked at as like I just
811
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.039
I just did not even that I was looked at
812
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.280
like a weak player. I did not perform. I was
813
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.239
a week player, and so I had a chip on
814
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.679
my shoulder on that season. Going into the off season,
815
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.679
I trained my butt off, man. I trained, and I
816
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.360
trained so hard. Everything that I lacked from that season.
817
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.800
I remembered, and I took it into training and I
818
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:18.960
got better in every single aspect. And so I came
819
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:21.639
into Been Dead with a chipping my shoulder and banana.
820
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:23.480
It just happened to all kind of fall in place
821
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.800
where it was like, hey, man, you got a chance
822
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:28.679
here to take a swing, let's do it. And it
823
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:29.239
worked out.
824
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:29.599
You know.
825
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:35.000
I told Devin. I told Devin this, Uh, after the
826
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.159
fact that I'm like, man, you gotta understand, like if
827
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:38.559
there would have been like a poll in the in
828
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.920
the middle of the saying I wouldn't I wasn't sending
829
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.800
bananas down there. That just wasn't gonna happen. You know.
830
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.320
If I if I'm going to take a swing, it's
831
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:48.440
gonna be you know, we're gonna we're gonna make it
832
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:52.599
a logical swing. So uh, and it came down the
833
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.840
logical Now we well, I guess I came down to
834
00:39:55.119 --> 00:40:00.239
light bright uh a lightboard. But yeah, that was the
835
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:01.760
whole thought process going in there. I had a little
836
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.440
chipping my shoulders from from Dirty thirty. I really wanted
837
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:09.199
to establish myself as like a standalone player in the game. Uh,
838
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.079
and not just like not just like Banana sidekicks or
839
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.800
one of Banana's minions or just like a you know,
840
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:22.559
supporting supporting a supporting player. I wanted to really step
841
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:23.880
into my own and I knew that was going to
842
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.880
cement me at least that season and hope and my
843
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:30.159
intentions were hopefully moving forward to UH to really make
844
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.679
a name for myself. So and yeah, I ad made
845
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.280
it to the final that season, and you know, the
846
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.000
final did not go my way. I really fell flat
847
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.400
in the final, which is I have a huge, huge
848
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:46.000
That's that's one of my biggest regrets is not continuing
849
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:47.920
to at least jog in that final. So there was
850
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:50.559
a moment in the final where I felt really defeated
851
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:56.159
because me and Zach had made a pack to like basically,
852
00:40:56.280 --> 00:41:04.239
we're gonna try to sabotage leave, right, And in the
853
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:06.159
middle of that happened and we're like, all right, this
854
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.239
is stupid, Like we just keep going, We're gonna be
855
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:09.880
here forever. It was in the beginning of the final
856
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.639
where we're doing the sticks, bringing the sticks back and
857
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.360
forth across the field, and finally we call truce on it. Well,
858
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.000
Leroy thought I was still doing it so you grab
859
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.039
it anyway, Long story short, I fell behind because of that,
860
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.800
and I felt really defeated because of it. And I
861
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.760
remember Kara jogging past me as I walk in and
862
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:29.079
she's like, hey, come on, keep it up, come on,
863
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:30.800
you keep keep it up here. I was like, I
864
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.119
ain't got a chance, car. And it's crazy to think
865
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.920
that Carr was the one that won that final. Yeah,
866
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.559
when she had to pass me to get to the
867
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:41.119
finish line, I'm like, man, if I would have just
868
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.559
kept jogging, like why did I peep? I basically gave
869
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.960
up right, Yeah, And then I'm so hard on myself
870
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.480
for that in that final. But you know, also with
871
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:50.599
them bringing Bananas back for that final, that kind of
872
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.519
like that was like a shot too. They're like I
873
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:55.159
was like, oh, bro, I know Venza is going to
874
00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:01.119
screw me in this final if he can, so uh yeah, man.
875
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.039
But that that's what it all comes down to. As
876
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:05.199
far as with the with Vendettas and taking the shadow
877
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:07.960
of Banas is again, I wanted to like establish the
878
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:09.440
name for myself and I just felt like it was
879
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.440
all falling into place and it was just part of it.
880
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:16.719
Okay, So Final Reckoning, we see you come back with Bananas,
881
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:18.760
but not really. I mean his original partner supposed to
882
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:22.480
be Devon. You know, Devn's unable to come early. He
883
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:26.119
comes in later with Corey. What were your original.
884
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:26.480
Plans for that season?
885
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.000
Did you have any plans for that season at all?
886
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:28.639
Or were you Yeah?
887
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.320
So, well, so I went and did so we did
888
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:36.559
Vendettas and then we went to Chance Versus Stars. Yeah,
889
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:41.639
and Chance Versus Stars ran into basically was going to
890
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.840
run into filming a final reckoning. So when they called me,
891
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.440
I was like like no, I was literally on that.
892
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.480
I was on that vibe of like, you know what,
893
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.159
let me like almost kind of like, let me take
894
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.960
a season off. Like I'm I literally went from Vendettas
895
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.239
to the ransfers to Stars and then they're like, all right,
896
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:00.840
as soon as you get home, you got like you
897
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.639
got three days and you got I was like, let
898
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:05.320
me just and they were like, all right, well that's fine,
899
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:09.000
I said, you know, because we're gonna keep We're going
900
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.880
to keep you on though, because we're gonna bring some
901
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:13.920
people out later. I'm like, so you want to be
902
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:15.559
on Thate. I'm like, oh yeah, I'll come out there later,
903
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:16.719
but you got to give me a little time in
904
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:20.920
between here. I was like, all right, perfect, so and
905
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:22.760
that turned out to be the mercenaries, right, so I
906
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.519
was I was planned originally to be one of the mercenaries.
907
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:27.239
Do you know.
908
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.239
That. I don't know if it would have been Durrell
909
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:35.599
or if it would have been that. They never told me.
910
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.280
I don't know. I'm not sure. I could speculate, but
911
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:41.000
I'm not I'm not not one hundred percent on who
912
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:45.559
it would have been. I've been told certain people. Some
913
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.239
people have told me how to just go out there
914
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:48.840
with you, but I don't know if I totally believe them.
915
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:53.440
I'm not sure. So yeah, I then the thing would
916
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.239
do what Devin happened, and they like I can remember
917
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:58.280
when Producer's calling me. She didn't tell me what happened.
918
00:43:58.280 --> 00:43:59.760
She was just like, hey, we need you now, like
919
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:01.760
you make this happen for a week, like we need
920
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:03.440
you till we need you. We need to make this happen.
921
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:05.400
Like but I was going to take some time off
922
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.559
that I was like, we need you, we need you,
923
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:09.599
and they basically talked me into it, and I was
924
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:11.840
like all right, and it was I was home for
925
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:13.800
like three days and I was back on the plane
926
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.440
to go fly out there. Uh. And I was at
927
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.239
that point, I was like I was kind of just on,
928
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.320
like I was playing with that with Uh, I was
929
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:25.719
playing with the house money.
930
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:26.000
Yeah.
931
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:27.519
I was like, this is a this is a give
932
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:28.679
me season. Here's a freebie.
933
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:28.840
You know.
934
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.000
I'm just I'm out here. I got I got nothing
935
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:32.559
to lose. I was playing all night even coming to
936
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.039
do this. I'm like, let's just have fun night. I
937
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:35.599
see I got you know, with Bananas, I'm like, oh,
938
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.280
we actually might have a shot to win this whole thing.
939
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.840
And uh, very loose. I was trying to be very
940
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:41.440
loose that whole season. I was just kind of there.
941
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.079
I was. I was there along for the ride because
942
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:45.440
I had it in my head to take some time
943
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.280
off and that was gonna come back for season thirty three,
944
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:49.800
and just that was gonna be my one, right, I
945
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.079
was gonna I was that was gonna be the one.
946
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.199
I knew I need a little bit of a break.
947
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:55.639
But man, it didn't work out that way. Went out
948
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.480
there the final reckoning with Bananas. It was a lot, man,
949
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.679
A lot went on that season. Took a lot of
950
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.679
like just a lot of shots from different people be
951
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:05.719
impaired up with bananas, you would think like, oh, that's great,
952
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.159
you got a good chance to win. But it also
953
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.400
comes with like a lot of like com with like
954
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.039
a lot of hate. Man. A lot of people just
955
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:13.679
want to target They want to target you too, right
956
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:15.559
because they're like, oh, you got Tony and Bananas. That's
957
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.039
a strong team. You got to get him out of here.
958
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.320
And then of course the stuff with Corey happened, you know,
959
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.079
pasta gate, me throwing his pasta out the wind, of
960
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.199
him getting mad, body slamming me. That was nuts. Yeah, man.
961
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.239
Then coming down to the last final, the final elimination.
962
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.760
Before the final, you know, we had it whipped man,
963
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:34.679
Me and Bananas had it. We had it whipped, dude,
964
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:36.760
And they called. They were like, nope, stop, stop, stop
965
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.599
because the sand can't getting clumped up and and and
966
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:43.800
the Natalie's hourglass or whatever. Yeah, and this is the
967
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.239
unseen elimination. Nobody knows about this, you know that. I
968
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.480
wish they could pull back the footage and let people
969
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.599
let people see it. But I was crutted, like it's
970
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.880
crazy because so the unseen elimination, the Bananas a Natalie
971
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.719
part didn't even matter because I was crushing Paulie on
972
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.760
the food part. The food part was like you had,
973
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:05.239
the food part was set up a little different, so
974
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.920
it was it was the same premise like bananas and
975
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.679
Nali was doing something. It was a two part of
976
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.079
elimination or how would you call it, like a uh,
977
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.119
like we were all going at the same time, right,
978
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.719
So you had me and Pauli. They had twenty plates
979
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.480
of food laid out for me and Pauli first one
980
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:26.000
to finish. Wins. Yeah, Natalie and bananas just had to
981
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:29.079
keep circling around this little big giant hour glass thing
982
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:30.840
and like pouring sand in it and just keep running
983
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:32.960
around and making sure it didn't like run out of sand.
984
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:36.599
And then but the real elimination part of it was
985
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.239
who could finish these plates first? And I was crushing
986
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.039
Polly Polli. There was something Pauli could eat on. There
987
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.559
was like sardines, some kind of cheese and something else,
988
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.960
and Pauli like could not eat with everyone's on this plate.
989
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:50.039
So I was crushing him like, I don't know, man,
990
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.480
seven plates to one, he'll tell you. And uh, and
991
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.880
but that sand can get clumped up, and they were like, oh,
992
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.400
stops how we got to try to drive the sand
993
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.079
out and they're like, I'm like, oh them on, Like
994
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:02.880
it doesn't that part doesn't matter, about the crush room
995
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:04.360
on the places in boots. Then we're going to the
996
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.480
final and then try to do it again anyway. They're like,
997
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.000
all right, we're gonna call it. We'll come back tomorrow.
998
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.119
Me and Banez couldn't believe it. We're like, what, we come.
999
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:12.880
Back the next came back the next day.
1000
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:14.519
Yeah, we came back the next day, and we're like,
1001
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.079
all right, so it's gonna be the same setup. They
1002
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.119
just drive the sand. They got a better, no, completely
1003
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:22.000
different setup. Now it's the one y'all everybody, uh, everybody
1004
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:23.519
was able to watch on TV, the one where they
1005
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.920
got to hold their hands off. Yeah, right, and then
1006
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:28.639
me and Paulie we don't have a limit. They don't.
1007
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.920
They don't set us a limit of like a number
1008
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.119
of plates, like, hey, these are twenty plates. First one
1009
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:35.400
to finish and wins. No, No, they just say you
1010
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.559
got to keep eating them until the uh, your partner
1011
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.199
or the the other the other squad's partner drops their hands.
1012
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:47.960
So it was an unlimited plate of the spoiled cottage cheese,
1013
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:51.159
milk and the hard African cookies. So we had to
1014
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.719
just keep eating. There was no limit, and so they
1015
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.639
took that part like it. They totally flipped it. And
1016
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:58.800
so now it's up to really bananas and Natalie because
1017
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.199
me and Paulie are Monts. There's we're wild, man, we
1018
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:03.360
don't care what is gonna keep eating and eating and eating,
1019
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:05.599
like we're not going to stop. And it wasn't something
1020
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.159
that Paulie wasn't gonna eat either, So it was like, man,
1021
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.239
it was that was that was a wow.
1022
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.079
So they brought you back the next day.
1023
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:13.559
Oh it was the next day. Yeah, it was the
1024
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.360
next day. And I'm like, I'm like, oh man, yeah,
1025
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.119
And they brought us back the next day, which isn't
1026
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.320
a huge deal because I'm thinking same setup, Like we're
1027
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:23.639
about to crush this again, like I got our stomach, dude,
1028
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:25.239
I don't. I don't get full right, So I'm like,
1029
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.320
let's go, Like this is what they don't understanding is
1030
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:33.639
the the SAand thing didn't matter. But they did understand
1031
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:37.880
it didn't matter, and so they changed it. It's like, man,
1032
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.039
y'all got to see what was going on there. Who's
1033
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:41.519
actually gonna win that and then you'll come back and
1034
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:45.280
change the elimination on us. So like, why did y'all
1035
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.239
do that? Like what you made it? It was just
1036
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.639
a really really weird man. Like, I'm not saying they
1037
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:51.280
didn't want me and Bananas in a final because I
1038
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.679
can't see why they wouldn't. I can't see why they wouldn't,
1039
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.400
Like why wouldn't you want It's kind of like why
1040
00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:00.679
would you want Why wouldn't you Tom Brady in the
1041
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:01.159
super Bowl?
1042
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:01.280
Right?
1043
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:03.440
Why would you want Lebron James in the finals? Like
1044
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.159
it's going to bring the most viewers? And also like
1045
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:10.719
you know, it's just I don't know, man, super heartbreaking though,
1046
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:12.039
could have made it to a final, And then I'm
1047
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:13.559
thinking about like, well, wait, what if we have made
1048
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.880
it at a final being Banana's win and the Banana's
1049
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:18.239
got a better time than me, or if I got
1050
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:19.920
a better time than Bananas. What do we do?
1051
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.480
Then you know they stole the money?
1052
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.639
Do we do we split the money? Do I steal
1053
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:24.480
the money? Do it? Like?
1054
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:24.800
Oh?
1055
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.199
Man, if and if if he would have took if
1056
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:29.679
he would have took the money from me, Oh.
1057
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.400
I'm telling you, I'm telling you as somebody that has
1058
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.239
interviewed Sarah Rice before, he would have one hundred percent
1059
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.480
stolen the money from you without a doubt in his mind.
1060
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.679
Dude. He swears up and down that he wouldn't have.
1061
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:44.320
But it's hard for me to one hundred percent believe that.
1062
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:45.960
Would you have taught money from him?
1063
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:48.480
Dude, That's the thing I don't. I'd have to be
1064
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:51.480
in that moment I have. I'm literally I would tell you,
1065
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:52.800
but I have. I would have to be in that
1066
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.880
moment to see what my thought process would be, because
1067
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.280
you know, I got a lot, dude, I got I'm
1068
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:01.159
sitting in my baby. He's nursing right now, so it's
1069
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:03.039
like I got three kids. I'm not saying I got
1070
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.639
a lot more to like provide for back home, Like
1071
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.760
everybody's got their priorities and things like, I don't want
1072
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:09.880
to put one thing above another, like what he's got
1073
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:11.519
going in his life where I got going in my life.
1074
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.039
But as far as like a provider and with what
1075
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.119
I could do with that money, I think that I could.
1076
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:17.599
Not saying I could do more good with it, but
1077
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:18.960
I do feel like I could do more good with
1078
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:20.039
it if I was my family.
1079
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:21.239
You're about the three girls.
1080
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:26.559
I mean, yeah, so it's ah, what I dude. I
1081
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:28.719
still to this day, I'm like, I go back and forth.
1082
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.360
I don't want to say. I don't want to say
1083
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.639
because I don't I don't know. I don't know because
1084
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:34.559
in the moment, I might be so happy. You got
1085
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.199
to think, in a moment, I might be so happy
1086
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.000
that me and him we just won, like all buddy, buddy, like, oh,
1087
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:40.920
it's yeah. In that moment, I might feel like, dude,
1088
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.119
you do you definitely get half of this money, man, Like,
1089
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.519
how could I not split this with you? You're half of
1090
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:47.400
the You're half, if not more, of the reason why
1091
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:49.199
I'm here right now. Man, Like, I'm about to walk
1092
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.280
home with them half a million dollars. Dude, you take
1093
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.559
this other half. Hey, let's run it back. You know
1094
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.280
who knows. And then I get back home and my
1095
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.760
wife's like, what did you do? Why did you split
1096
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:02.039
the money? You idiot? He would have took that money
1097
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:03.679
from you, I'm telling you, because that's what been a thing.
1098
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:05.400
If I would have split that money with him, everybody
1099
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.280
would be like, oh, you're an idiot. He would have
1100
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:08.840
never done that to you, but you would.
1101
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:11.840
He would take money from you at a heartbeat, in
1102
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:15.880
a heartbet, there you go. I mean what we got
1103
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.239
at the end with Ashley was chaotic as well.
1104
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.079
You know, oh yeah, crazy chaotic.
1105
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.119
I want to get into you said that thirty three
1106
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:26.039
is going to be your season. We don't yeah that
1107
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.119
for a while after that, I mean, what happened.
1108
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.159
Yeah, so that's what things got put on Paul. I
1109
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:32.920
was like, I literally I was so thirty three. Like,
1110
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:35.800
first of all, thirty three is like my number, right,
1111
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.840
you know everybody's got like a number, Yeah, thirty three
1112
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.000
is my number. Like that's my superstitious number, that's my
1113
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:41.639
lucky number, that's whatever you want to call, Like that
1114
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.519
was my number I wore in high school for sports,
1115
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.440
like number thirty three. Uh. It's just so I was like, man,
1116
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.719
going into season thirty three, I was like, thirty one
1117
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.679
didn't work out, thirty two didn't work out, because thirty
1118
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:54.000
three is the one that's going to work out. Like,
1119
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:56.559
I just know that's my one. So I was ready
1120
00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:01.920
for it. And then dude, like stuff started happening when
1121
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.800
I got back from Final Reckoning, stuff started happening in
1122
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:10.400
my personal life like that I could not be away from,
1123
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:14.119
like that's so it's no secret, Like you could look
1124
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.639
back and look the timeline. That's when like my custody
1125
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.519
battle stuff started, and it was like, man, I can't.
1126
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.440
I'm I'm battling for custody on my child and I'm
1127
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.239
going to go out the country to film like for
1128
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.760
for possibly two months. Like but you're saying it's like
1129
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:31.960
dire for you to be here. You need custody your
1130
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.039
child's but you're gonna go out to con it. Just
1131
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:38.119
it just didn't make sense. And I just couldn't. I
1132
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:40.880
don't know if I could have, because I probably maybe
1133
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.119
could have justified it, but like, well, hey, this is
1134
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.840
how I make my primary income, Like I have to
1135
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:47.480
go do this and I come back up and I
1136
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:50.719
just I couldn't have. I couldn't have, you know, I
1137
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:51.559
couldn't have at the time.
1138
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.440
Sure, And I mean at the end of the day,
1139
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:55.960
not to cut you off, but like there's people that
1140
00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:58.159
talk about, oh, I didn't want to come back for this,
1141
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.159
when they, in reality didn't get invited, right, I mean, yes,
1142
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:05.840
real life. I mean, your fucking daughter, you're a real situation.
1143
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.599
Is my daughter. I couldn't. I could not leave. I
1144
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:10.800
had a you know, I had a dude, I have
1145
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.400
an obligation I had. You know, you got to step
1146
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:15.960
up as a parent. You can't say, oh, I'll put
1147
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.159
this on hold when it's like, wait, no, I so yeah.
1148
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.800
That that was the whole so and that that was
1149
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:27.079
twenty eighteen, right, so twenty eighteen that starts. We actually
1150
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:34.119
don't get it settled until it was right after Father's Day.
1151
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:38.960
Right after Father's Day twenty twenty, so we're talking two years.
1152
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:42.119
It was a two year long custody battle. And for
1153
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.199
those two years, I would get the call every single time,
1154
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.599
every single time, and I'd have to turn it down,
1155
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:51.920
said I can't, I can't, can't, because not only that,
1156
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.039
even if it was like I knew this was going
1157
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:55.559
to be on hold and we wasn't going to go
1158
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:58.039
to court proceedings for another two three months or whatever,
1159
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.000
it was like if I if I knew the next
1160
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.079
custody here it wasn't gonna be for like three months,
1161
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:04.519
I still couldn't have been able to go out the
1162
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:08.320
country and film and come back and good and and
1163
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.519
and good faith knowing what was going on back home.
1164
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:12.159
And at the same time, like I got to like
1165
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.360
still provide and like work my regular job, like I
1166
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:15.079
can't it just.
1167
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:15.519
It was.
1168
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.199
Very, very unfortunate, all of all that stuff, me not
1169
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.480
being able to do the challenges, you know, the custody
1170
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:25.800
battle stuff, some adult all of it is so unfortunate.
1171
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.280
And then once we finally do get to a point
1172
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.280
where its settled down and it's like, okay, well, hey,
1173
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:38.159
maybe I could start entertaining the challenge again and giving this,
1174
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:43.920
you know, giving another shot. You know, so much time
1175
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:49.000
had passed five years, five years, so I had removed
1176
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.519
myself so much from it and just kind of cemented
1177
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.239
myself and just kind of build. I was trying to
1178
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:57.280
just build on what I had here and not say
1179
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.800
totally leave that behind because it was a very big
1180
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:04.639
part of my life and stuff. But yeah, after five
1181
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:06.559
years and it's like, okay, you got all stars gonna
1182
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:08.679
kick around this idea, like let's see how that works
1183
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:10.000
and all that, I was like, you know, maybe I
1184
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:11.400
could give it a shot. And you go out there,
1185
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:12.719
you try to give it a shot, and it's like,
1186
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.559
oh man, the personal life stuff comes back again. It's like,
1187
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:21.559
you know, I gotta go. And yeah, I thought they
1188
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.360
were like never gonna invite me back. I was like this,
1189
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:26.039
you know this, I guess you know whatever, I blew it.
1190
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:30.280
I know that was an ideal, but sorry, And that
1191
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:32.519
was it was a big letdown because he's sent five years,
1192
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:34.320
a lot of anticipation, there a lot of build ups.
1193
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:36.199
It's like, hey, what's you gonna do. It's Tony time,
1194
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:40.559
he's clocking back in and and just to just leave
1195
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:44.320
like that, it sucks, man. And then I thought I
1196
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:45.800
was going to call back. They called me back for
1197
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:48.400
erras I go out there for ERA for season forty
1198
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:52.239
and again it's like that was a little flat, right,
1199
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:54.960
it was a little flat. And I said this with
1200
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:56.559
my last challenge man me. I was like, look, I
1201
00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.280
don't want that to be like my legacy. I don't
1202
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:02.360
want that to be with Yeah, but what I'm last
1203
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.559
remembered for, and that might be what I'm last man,
1204
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.400
It might be it might be who knows, We'll see.
1205
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:10.480
I mean, I did get a call for All All
1206
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:14.280
Star six. I did get a call for forty two.
1207
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.880
They All Star six got put on hold, and on
1208
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.679
forty two they they dropped me the last like two
1209
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:26.880
weeks before departure. So because well why I didn't give
1210
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:28.559
them the definite I was like, yay, keep my name
1211
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:29.880
in a hack. Keep. I always say keep my name
1212
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:31.159
in a hack you because you never know it's gonna
1213
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:34.280
happen up to departure day, right, It's like, we'll see
1214
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:35.920
what we'll see how I like, I like to keep
1215
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:39.320
my name in there. But they called me back and like, hey,
1216
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:40.760
you can go ahead, and you know you can free
1217
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:42.719
you can free up your calendar. We're not gonna need
1218
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:44.239
you for forty two. I'm like, all right, cool, because
1219
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:45.880
I wanted totally true if I was gonna do it anyway,
1220
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.400
especially with like, yeah, I don't know, I don't know,
1221
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.760
I don't know how that would have worked out. But
1222
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.199
but yeah, well we'll see how how the future lines up, man,
1223
00:56:56.199 --> 00:57:00.400
And uh, I'll never say never. If the stars a line,
1224
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:01.679
I'm able to go back out there. I do want
1225
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:04.559
to give it like a good, honest, fair shot, and
1226
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.000
yeah kind of either you know, just go out in
1227
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.159
a blaze the glory or you know, win the whole thing,
1228
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.519
whatever it is. I just I don't want to leave
1229
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.760
the game the way I left it these past two times,
1230
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:19.880
for sure, So I'm hoping I get a little bit
1231
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:26.480
of redemption there. And you know, Tony Tony Tony time continues.
1232
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:28.960
Yeah, I mean, was there you were called out for
1233
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:34.119
quitting forty basically, was there any truth to that or
1234
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:35.760
did you just lose the elimination fair and square? Like
1235
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:40.079
what I mean. I think Laurel was the biggest mouth
1236
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.159
in the room, if that makes sense, Like she was
1237
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.639
the most verbal about it, basically saying like, you didn't
1238
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.679
want to be there, you left, you had to, you
1239
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.239
had to go home. You just let you know it happened. Whatever.
1240
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:51.360
I mean.
1241
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:55.280
I'll let people draw their own conclusions. Okay, I'll it's
1242
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.679
it's fine. I let them. Everyone has their opinion. I'll
1243
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:00.239
let them go with it. A lot of people say, man,
1244
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.239
you're a terrible actor. Man, we could tell you really
1245
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:05.599
tossed out, and you you know, like, okay, well that's
1246
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:11.360
you could think that, or you know, you could think that, Uh,
1247
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.760
this is this is one thing I do know for sure,
1248
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:20.239
whether I intentionally through it to go home or I
1249
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.519
actually just couldn't solve the puzzle and I was really
1250
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:30.239
that stubborn. Either way, I feel like I did the
1251
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:32.159
game a little bit of I did the show a
1252
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:40.840
little bit of justice by giving them some theatrics. I gave.
1253
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:43.440
I at least gave a little bit of story there, right,
1254
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.960
I gave. I gave something to You can't say I
1255
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:47.480
contribute to the season.
1256
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:47.920
Now.
1257
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:50.159
It brought me out. There's all the biggest names, all
1258
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:52.480
the big challenge, hard heavy hitters, whatever you would call it.
1259
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:58.079
You brought Tony out there, and I delivered something. I
1260
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:02.440
earned my pay. I earned my pay. It might have
1261
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.239
been short lived, but I gave them. I mean, look
1262
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:09.519
for for two episodes there. Basically, Look, I won't even
1263
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:11.000
get it into it. I just want to say that
1264
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.559
there's a lot of other people that have cracked the
1265
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:17.440
bed and you know, h it didn't give them anything
1266
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.559
and just went home that I uh, I gave them
1267
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:22.920
money's worth for sure.
1268
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:24.840
I want to say thank you so much for coming on.
1269
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:26.400
I just have some listener questions and we can get
1270
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:27.199
to really quick if.
1271
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:28.920
You don't mind. Okay, yeah, yeah, let's do it.
1272
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:35.639
So let me put my phone up. I know the
1273
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:37.159
first one out top of my head because I was
1274
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.199
going to ask you myself, but I was like, let's
1275
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:41.519
just let the listeners ask you this sum if you
1276
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:44.519
were on rid Dies, who would you have picked for
1277
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.119
your writer or die? Female and male.
1278
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:50.320
Well, it's funny. So one of the seasons I turned
1279
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:53.360
down was Rider Dies and I had Nicole and I
1280
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:56.519
had Bananas. Those were two of my potential partners. Like that,
1281
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:58.800
I was getting talking to producers about talking to Bananas,
1282
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:00.920
talking to Cole like, hey, we're gonna do this if
1283
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:03.039
I had to choose. They didn't let me choose or anything.
1284
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:05.559
But I mean, obviously mom would be Zach. If I
1285
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:09.960
go out there with male with be Zach and for
1286
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:13.400
the female, yeah, it would still still be in a call. Okay.
1287
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.039
I would have loved to see you in a call
1288
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:15.559
in that season.
1289
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.480
Yeah. Man, yeah, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do
1290
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:22.679
it again, just didn't line up. Would you ever?
1291
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:24.920
Somebody else is asking would you ever do another show
1292
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:28.679
like Traders, Big Brothers survivor anything like that?
1293
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:33.119
Man, I would. I'd love to do any of those shows. Man,
1294
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:34.400
if I get a chance to do it, I'm like,
1295
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:37.079
how do how do I even throw my name in
1296
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.920
the hat? I'm not sure? Like I see other Challengers
1297
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:41.519
and stuff do the shows. I'm like, man, do they
1298
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:43.280
have an agent that like, yeah, there's a lot of
1299
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:46.719
they must have agents that like do all this work
1300
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.719
for them and like talk to like the other producers.
1301
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:50.920
I'm like, because they ain't none of them called me yet.
1302
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:54.719
I'm not doing something right here, but I mean, yeah,
1303
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:56.559
it would be cool. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
1304
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:58.480
like actively pursue that. But look, if I got a
1305
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.639
call saw a producer one of the my name up
1306
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:02.599
and they reached out to me, I would definitely entertain
1307
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:03.440
the idea for sure.
1308
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:05.000
Okay, perfect.
1309
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:05.599
Uh.
1310
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:11.039
Somebody asked, I had it up here, does Alyssa have
1311
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:13.639
any interest in ever doing the challenge? Uh?
1312
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:17.320
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Oh, Listen was gonna be
1313
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:19.360
another one about Rotterdyes, they were the persons who were
1314
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.400
asking me if they asked me the same question, like
1315
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:24.000
would a Listen be interested to doing the roder Dies.
1316
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:27.079
There was another one too, They were gonna do blood
1317
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.960
lines too. Yeah that was that was rumored right, But
1318
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:34.679
blood Lines too wound up turning into thirty thirty.
1319
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.639
I think no vendettas, that is what I heard.
1320
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:40.079
Okay, or vendettas maybe, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, Yeah,
1321
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:42.840
But anyway, they asked me, they uh, they asked me
1322
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:45.760
if she would do one of that one blood at
1323
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.000
the blood Lines too. I think they did say it
1324
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:49.599
with blood lines too. They asked me about a listen,
1325
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:50.920
well listen to God. I was like, wait, she's not
1326
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.000
about blood lines, Like, well, technically you know what. I
1327
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:56.079
was like, Okay, yeah, you know how they just make
1328
01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:58.800
their own rules and then if for rododyes that, well
1329
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:00.960
can listen to it, like, you know, listen, we're thinking
1330
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:02.719
about it. We're like trying to see who could, like,
1331
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.239
you know, watch the kids for the wall, But it
1332
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.239
just it would never She would love to do it, obviously,
1333
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:10.840
and I would love for her to do it. We'd
1334
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:12.760
like to do it together. But man, for that to
1335
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:14.199
line up, it would be impossible.
1336
01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:19.159
It'd be hard. Yeah, definitely be hard. Somebody said, I'm
1337
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:21.639
so excited for you to have another daughter. Do you
1338
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:23.800
think your kids will ever want to go on related
1339
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:25.679
TV or even the challenge in the future.
1340
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:32.880
God? Yeah, I mean so technically, let's see, my daughters
1341
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:37.199
have about another ten, eleven, twelve years before they're like
1342
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:42.719
eligible to go do that kind of stuff. But I oh, man,
1343
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:49.719
I mean what what teenager person in the early twenties
1344
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:51.199
doesn't want to go do that kind of suff? Well,
1345
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:53.159
it doesn't want to be on TV. Yeah, like the
1346
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:55.920
fact that anybody is like, hey, you want to be
1347
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.559
on TV. It's like, yeah, I like it's just exciting, right,
1348
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:00.760
Like it's just well, and a lot of people think
1349
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.480
it's excited, and then they get on TV. They get
1350
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:04.800
in front of the camera and they freeze up. Yeah,
1351
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:07.239
but yeah, I think I think they'd probably they would
1352
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.639
be interested, and especially like knowing that their dad was
1353
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:11.760
like on reality TV and they could look me up
1354
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:13.639
and see me on there, like, so they get a
1355
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:16.039
little feel for it. Hopefully you do a whole lot
1356
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:19.960
better than I did on all aspects, and I could
1357
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.119
probably give them some advice on that front. But uh,
1358
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:23.880
I wouldn't say I discourage it, you know, I just
1359
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:25.920
I would hope that they make better decisions than I did.
1360
01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:30.639
Okay, Yeah, I mean I know it's a big thing
1361
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:33.239
with really TV kids. People are like people want them
1362
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:35.159
to see on TV, and I feel like it'd be
1363
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:39.239
interesting to see how they are different than their parents,
1364
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:40.320
just as like a genetic thing.
1365
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:42.760
Oh yeah, yeah, that would be interesting.
1366
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:45.960
And then just the last one, I'm getting a bunch.
1367
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:47.320
I had a bunch of these, so I just kind
1368
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:49.079
of merged it into one and we kind of already
1369
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:51.400
talked about it, But do you plan on coming back?
1370
01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:53.800
If so, when are you coming back? You know that
1371
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:54.239
whole thing.
1372
01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:58.960
Uh yeah, Again, like I was saying earlier, I'm never
1373
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.760
gonna say never. Still receiving calls, and I think the
1374
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:05.360
best chance for me to come back is going to
1375
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.880
be for All Stars. So hopefully I'm hoping and hoping
1376
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:11.920
that they continue with All Stars six. Yeah, and they
1377
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:13.760
do move forward with it, because I think that's probably
1378
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:17.559
the best chance I got to come back, you know,
1379
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:19.599
for the flagship. I think we got to see how
1380
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:23.159
forty two does, and then I'm hoping I'm hoping, you know,
1381
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:27.920
the calls go out for forty three and yeah that
1382
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:33.480
now I'll never say never. I'm I'm I'm hoping. Believe me,
1383
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.159
I'm hoping more than any of the fans of anybody
1384
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.480
out there that I'm able to do another season. So
1385
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:39.119
we'll see perfect.
1386
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:41.320
I want to say thank you so much for coming on.
1387
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:42.519
I really appreciate you taking the time.
1388
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:43.159
I know you're yeah.
1389
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:46.679
Absolutely, Is there anything any last words anywhere we can
1390
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.559
find you on social media? Just anything you want to promote,
1391
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:50.519
just your time to shine?
1392
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:53.920
Uh No, nothing, really, I want to promote just you know,
1393
01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:59.840
wish the best for everybody out there, thinks everybody who's listening.
1394
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.360
And if y'all do want to give me a follow,
1395
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:07.480
you give me a follow on Facebook, Tony MTV rains,
1396
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:11.639
which is funny, which is Facebook? Yes, so this is funny.
1397
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:13.800
Let me tell you the funny story when I'm plugging that.
1398
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:17.480
So twenty sixteen, I had I actually had like a
1399
01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:19.800
little kind of like a manager person that was trying
1400
01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:21.039
to help me out with stuff and like, hey, you
1401
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:23.760
got to create a fan page on Facebook, Like you
1402
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:26.320
got to do this. I'm like, all right, and you'll
1403
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.119
help you like get verified whatever. I was like, all right,
1404
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:30.280
So I created a fan page and it was back
1405
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:34.360
then everybody had MTV and their usernade. Yeah, everybody in
1406
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.840
that era, right, So I created it was like Tony,
1407
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:39.519
and then set me apart was MTV eight Rains instead
1408
01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:42.039
of the fan page. This thing's been dormant for like
1409
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:46.079
a decade, right, and I just like rediscovered it and
1410
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:48.039
I'm like, oh man, and I'm looking at all my
1411
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:51.199
other Challenge castmates and like, you know, all the challenges
1412
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:53.639
they they have the fair I'm like, man, Facebook's kind
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of like that's some untapped potential here. So I And
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the funny part of it is, I can't change the
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user name now like what I've tried. I know, people
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be like, oh, you can do it. I've tried, and
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it denies me. It won't let me change it. I'm
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stuck with the MTV in between my names. So it's
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Tony MTV Rains on Facebook, and I am I'm very
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active on this so and I guess I always look
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at Facebook like the old like for old people, but uh,
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it's it's definitely another audience out there to connect with.
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And I feel like it's just more personable. It's, uh,
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it's more personal than Instagram is. And and it's it's
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uh you could just you can kind of really you
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can get more out there without like the high Sometimes
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you feel like it's high stakes on Instagram, like oh
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I posted on my on my main feed or do
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I put it so like it's just you don't even
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on Facebook, you really don't worry about that. It's so
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much more of like a uh it's real, it's realer,
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I guess you could say. So, yeah, just want of
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the plug the Tony MTV Rains if you want to
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get more of like the uh my for real reality.
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I'm just trying. I'm just trying to a little more
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active on there, like yeah, I'm like that I should
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have been, uh trying to grow this from the beginning.
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But always, like I said, I always use it as like
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this old people's stuff, uh, instead of trying to grow
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the Instagram. But anyway, yeah, that's it man. Everything else
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all good, Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it.
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