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This is the Cats Roundtable with John Katsimatidis.
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Everywhere around the world, they come to America. Every time
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that flag's unfurled, they come into America.
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Good morning, New York. This is the Cats Roundtable. John
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Katsimatidis here, Sunday morning. John Terrett, what's going on with
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the markets? George Borrello from upstate New York on the
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state of the state. Steve Phillip, New York City Partnership.
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And he's going to give us the state of the city.
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Bonnie Brady, well, those windmills. Let's see what Bonnie Brady
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has to say. Bruce Blakeman, running for governor in the
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state of New York. Steve Cates, Dr. Sky, New Jersey
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GOP chair. Christine Hanlon, Bernadette Castro. wants to put together
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women for Bruce Blakeman, Joseph Hernandez running for Comptroller of
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the State of New York, John Sarkone, the Assistant U.S.
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Attorney for the Northern District, and let's start off with
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Michael Stoller and the Real Estate Report.
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Good morning, this is Mike Stoller for the Stoller Real
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Estate Report. It's an unusual time when you would have
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a developer and his counsel together on a show. So
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today I have an interesting group of individuals. I have
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Eli Weiss, the developer, okay, and principal at Joy Construction.
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And then I also have the senior counsel, making him
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older than he is. I have the managing partner, at Goldberg, Webber, Finkel, Goldstein, LLP.
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Andy Obstein.
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Good morning.
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Good morning.
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So we were talking, it's interesting that the two of
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you work together and even own some properties together. So
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let's talk about the time today as compared to 40
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years ago, Andy, when you started in the business.
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All right.
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That's a very interesting question. First of all, thank you
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for having me this morning. I'm a fan of the show.
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I listen every week. It annoys my wife because of
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the early hour, but I've been married that long. I
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can get away with it.
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Right.
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I guess when I started, which was 40 years ago
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in real estate, maybe a little longer, the dream was
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always to own real estate for every American. Everybody either
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wanted to own a home. They wanted to own income-producing property.
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They always had some affinity or interest in real estate
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ownership as being satisfying the goals of growing up. And
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so people would come to me. They were buying a home.
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They would be buying a home in New York. They
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could be an out-of-state of buying a home in New York.
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They would come to me that they were buying rented property.
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Some came to me. They were developing property.
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I would.
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I would get a term sheet from a broker. I
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would call the lawyer for the seller if I was
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representing the buyer. I would go over to their office.
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We would have forms, fill it out, sign a contract
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in a matter of an hour or two hours. And
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the deal would happen usually without an issue. Now you
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go 40 years later and you have legislatures both at
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the city and the state that are attempting to do
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good good deeds. They're attempting to pass legislation that's going
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to help everyone. And there are unintended consequences.
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What do you mean unintended consequences?
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Every law, uh, the building still stands, but the economics
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of it, it changes the economics, changes development possibilities. It
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changes the income possibilities. Uh, it changes what an owner
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has to do in terms of ownership. And it becomes now, uh,
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a labyrinth of laws that have to be navigated and
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you can't just go and sign a contract. You have to,
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what we call due diligence. You have to look into
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the properties. You have to understand them, uh, very well,
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as well as the seller, if not much better. And
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you have to be prepared not only to deal with
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the new legislations, but you have to be prepared to
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deal with what may be new legislations. You have to
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consider it all. So I'm not only a contract lawyer, uh,
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I go through the economics, and at times I'm even
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a psychiatrist. I have to go through with the buyers
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all the possibilities, all the risks, and I have to
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try to get them in a state of comfort. Nothing
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is an easy transaction.
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Nothing is an easy transaction. Let's ask Eli his thoughts.
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You've been involved with the business over 25 years, okay,
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starting in the government. So let's talk from the perspective
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of the government coming through today. and then some of
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the work about the armory and others.
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Sure. So thanks again for having me.
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It's great to be here with Andy, his longtime friend, partner,
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trusted advisor, even surpasses my mother-in-law in terms of giving
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good advice. But to be very candid, I think Andy
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is 100% right. I think 40 or 50 years ago,
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real estate in general was a far less institutional business
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that seemed to be far less regulated and intertwined with legislations.
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I think you had a lot of people that just
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bought property, and there was only one direction that property
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only went up. People bought and held, and financing was
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far less complex. You went to a local bank, you
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shook somebody's hand, you went out for.
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A closing dinner, and that was the end of it.
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What's changed is, A, capital markets are far more sophisticated,
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and that makes capital stacks, raising money, the size of deals,
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the complexities of deals, infinitely more complicated than they were
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when I started. And I think Andy's 100% right. I
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think that today where capital is fungible, right? So when
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I grew up, people didn't really live in New York
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and do business overseas or live in New York and
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buy real estate in Arizona. It was very difficult to
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do that. Email, fax, all of that came much later.
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And so in today's world, local politics are a lot
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more important because back then, like I said, Things were
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much simpler, right? Capital stacks were simpler. Regulations were far
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less important. Now, in today's world, people are going out
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and buying assets all over, whether it be people from
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New York buying in the South, people in the.
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South looking to buy in New York.
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And as Andy said, when you have an environment like
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we do in New York that's highly regulated, and it's
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not just that it's highly regulated, it's also in flux, right?
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There have been big swings in policy.
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I think on some level, you have to just be
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honest and say that's going to impact the market. Not
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always adversely, but it's going to have much more of
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an impact than it did historically.
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So I'm going to have you back next week and
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we're going to continue this discussion.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for having us.
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Thanks very much.
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The Cats Roundtable.
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With us today is Bonnie Brady. You're representing a larger
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number of people now than ever before. Tell us who
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you represent.
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I am the policy director for the New England Fishermen's
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Stewardship Association. We represent commercial fishermen from New Jersey all
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the way up to Maine. In Washington right now, and
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what happened seven years ago, we lost a boat called
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the Mistress out of Rhode Island.
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And the guy doing the— he was on last week on
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our show last Sunday.
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Right, Mike Lombardi. He did the Green Oceans. They did
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a report, and they were able to find the— remains
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of the boat, the fishing vessel Mistress, 50 feet away
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from one of the jacket foundations.
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So it looks like that boat hit the windmill, and
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that's what crushed it and went down.
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You know, John, I'm not sure that that's the case.
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I happened to do the Freedom of Information Act call
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on the MISLA, it's called M-I-S-L-E, the Marine Report of
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the Coast Guard, when that boat went down in 2023.
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And what it did say in those documents, the search
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and rescue helicopter comes from Cape Cod, Air Station Cape Cod.
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It's an MH-60 Jayhawk. It went to the scene. And
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the only— they talked about low visibility. I think it was
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a ceiling of about 100 to 300 feet and wind.
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And the hazard they mentioned probably eight times in the report,
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wind turbines. Now, I went so far as to call
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a guy in Boston— After I got that report, someone
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who used to work as a helicopter pilot for the
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Coast Guard and did hundreds of search and rescue missions.
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And that person basically told me, we always fly when
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it's 1 to 300 visibility and the weather is crap.
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That's nothing new. That's standard operating procedure for us. You
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don't normally have problems in a bright, sunny day. Forget
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about that. The issue was very clearly the hazard of
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wind turbines. And John, you've heard me say this so
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many times, I'm sure you're ready to heave. Search and
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rescue doesn't work with wind turbines. You can't, the marine
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radar or any radar that would need to look into
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an area, especially at night when it's blowing 40 to
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50 miles an hour and you've got 10 to 15
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foot seas, you use something called your radar. And if
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your radar, which is a line of sight, just like
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an arrow pointing from wherever you are directly in front
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of you, hits a giant steel forest, or in this case, Five,
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only five turbines. and provides clutter or scatter so they
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can't just figure out what's what or where they're going.
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They aborted the mission, John. Now, what happened apparently when
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it started, because I read the report over and over again,
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They were taking on some water. They were heading back.
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The captain got both his son and his nephew down.
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got them in their Gumby suits, which are the orange suits,
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you know, for floating. They put out a mayday. He
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was below turbine two. He put out one more mayday,
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apparently closer to one. Now, remember, you've heard me say
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this too. When you have these giant turbines in the water,
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not only do they affect the wind because of the
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blades going across so that behind them there's less wind,
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but also in the water they create scour. Why? Because
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the water has current.
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It moves.
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So if you're in a boat and you are heading
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past this large metal thing in a huge storm, if
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the current's going in the direction of where that tower is,
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guess where your boat's going to go? I don't know
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if they hit it or not. We'd have to be
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able to try to find out from what's left down
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on that ocean floor. But the reality is they could
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have gotten pulled into the area. And if someone tried
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to turn the wheel quickly to get away because they
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knew they were like a almost like a rapid river ride.
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I've been on boats and you've been on boats. And
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if a big swell comes up. It could push you
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300 feet into it.
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Exactly.
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It could push you, or if you're trying to get
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away from it, what do you do? You turn the
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wheel hard, and with the boat already having issues with water,
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it could have rolled over. We know that the son
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who was up in the rigging trying to get the
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raft off of the boat got thrown into the rigging
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when the boat rolled. He never saw his father again, apparently.
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He never saw, according to the Coast Guard report, he
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never saw his cousin again. And he held on to
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some part of the boat until I guess it sank.
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At that point, they had a raft, the rescue raft,
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released from the boat. They've got something called a hydrostatic release.
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It releases, it adds air, and then it floats to
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the top. And he got in it. And a boat
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called the Captain Bly, about 30 minutes racing to the scene,
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they picked him up.
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That was it.
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He's a very lucky kid.
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Oh, he's an incredibly lucky kid. But I mean, my God,
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he lost his dad and he lost his cousin. And
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here we find out now, seven years later, the boat's
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right at Turbine One. But here's the part.
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There's a bigger investigation and we only have a minute
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or so left. The bigger investigation is who did those companies,
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the original companies, which included one of the countries, pay
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off in campaign funds to create those windmills?
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Well, here's part of the problem, though, John. They did
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maintenance as soon as April of 2019. We saw in
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the pictures in that report that was in The Washington Times,
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if anyone wants to go and look at it, where
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you can see the spud marks right next to that boat.
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Somebody knew. What did they know, and when did they
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know it? And the people involved, it was Deepwater Wind
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that then became Orsted. Danish, Kingdom of Denmark, 51% owned.
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Do you know why they probably didn't say a darn word?
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Because you would have had to have had people down
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there looking, the radar, the divers. They don't just find
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up anywhere and just stick their.
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So you think the incident happened in 2019 and what... In.
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April and in August, apparently they did maintenance work on
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that turbine. In order to do it, they take something
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called a jack-up vessel that's just like a giant 350,
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400-foot boat that basically is kind of on stilts. And
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what they do is they plant the stilts on the
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ocean floor, and then they jack up the boat so
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they can work on the turbine. They had to have
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known when they were putting that up, if that was
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near the boat, they had to have seen it. But
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why wouldn't they have told anyone, John? Because it would
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have screwed up all of the federal offshore wind lease
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areas if they knew that search and rescue could not
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be completed when you have a wind farm. And this
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is not just for fishermen. This is for anybody on
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a boat, whether you're a tanker, whether you're a yacht,
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whether you're a pilot, anybody.
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Bonnie, to be continued. You know why? This is important,
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and it's affecting our cost of electricity. It's affecting our
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national defense. Thank you so much.
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And it cost these people possibly their lives, John.
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Yes, and this is going to be continued. Thank you
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so much.
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Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to the Cats Roundtable. We'll be
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right back right after this break. Welcome back to the
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Cats Roundtable.
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Hi.
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Calling in today is Senator George Borrello, New York State
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Senator from Chautauqua County. Well, Senator, where do you want
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to start?
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Well, John, first of all, whether it's Chautauqua County or
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whether it's New York City or anywhere in between, we're
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realizing now how much New York State overtaxes its citizens.
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In fact, the nonpartisan watchdog group, the Citizens Budget Commission,
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just found that New.
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York State local governments collecting on.
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Average about $ 12, 500 per person per year, which is the
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highest in the nation. It's even 22% higher than the
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state of California, which has a reputation for being high
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in taxes. So when, whether it's Governor Hochul or it's
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Zoram Amdani talk about taxing the rich, we're taxing everyone
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and well beyond.
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Any other state in the nation.
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And it's why we lead the nation in out-migration. More
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people leave New York State for places like New Jersey,
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not just Florida and Texas, but New Jersey and Pennsylvania,
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which are the top two states that people.
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Leave New York for.
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We need to have change. We need to put more
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money into people's pockets and less into this massive government
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overspending machine.
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You are in the state Senate. How is the state
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Senate going? Because you have checks and balances if you
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have the right numbers.
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Well, that's really what it's about.
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If you have looked, the last time.
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We had divided government, balanced government, when the Republicans were
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in charge in the New York State Senate, which ended
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at the beginning of 2019, is the last time we saw,
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quite frankly, responsible spending. Since then, the budget back then
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was about $ 170 billion with a B. Now, fast forward here, basically,
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seven budget cycles, and it's $ 277 billion. So you went
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from $ 170 to $ 277 billion under one-party Democrat rule. And
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in that period of time, we've also had a huge
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increase in fraud and abuse, particularly in Medicaid. Medicaid now
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consumes about half of New York State's budget, and there's
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been no appetite to actually address the fraud, waste.
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And abuse.
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And this is what common-sense folks like Tom DiNopoli, who's
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a fellow Democrat, has said about the fraud, waste, and
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abuse in programs like Medicaid.
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So this is not about we.
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Don't tax enough and we have to tax more. This
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is about New York State spending too much and not
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addressing the wastefulness in those programs like Medicaid.
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You know, we talked about that Florida was like $ 25
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billion that has more people than New York. And how
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did we get to $ 125 billion in New York?
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Well, again, because we've allowed these programs to grow out
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of control. First and foremost, we don't address the fraudulent
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part of Medicaid. And I'm not just talking about people
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that aren't eligible that are on Medicaid.
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That's certainly a big.
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Part of it.
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But I'm talking about the billions of dollars in fraudulent billing.
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That just isn't real.
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That you have providers that are billing for services that
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they're not providing. We saw recently an exposure of a
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program in Queens where a group has billed over $ 200
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million for what was supposed to be senior dayhab programs.
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That was a total fraud.
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There were something like 77 senior dayhab programs in like
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a two-mile radius in Queens, most of which were fraudulent.
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And yet we have an attorney general here in New York.
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State that rates last 50th out of 50 for convicting
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people of Medicaid fraud. So it's a perfect storm of fraud, waste,
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and abuse that has resulted in New York State taxing
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its citizens more than any other state in the nation.
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So we have to draw that.
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Line between waste, fraud, and abuse and the fact that
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we overtax our citizens, which is driving businesses and families
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out of New York State at a record pace.
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Is there anybody doing any checks and balances at all?
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Well, look, we try to call this out in the
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New York State Senate, in particular in.
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The Republican Conference. We've called out the fraud, waste, and abuse.
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Like I said, we've even had bipartisan support from Tom DiNapoli.
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And there are others that have called this out. But
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you need to have the political will to not just
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call it out, but for people to actually take action.
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And that's where we need.
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A change in leadership. particularly at the executive level.
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We need a.
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Strong executive branch that is willing to root out the fraud, waste,
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and abuse. And you have a federal government right now
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that's basically saying, we're not going to fund this anymore.
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My Democrat colleagues and Governor Hochul are wringing.
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Their hands over federal cuts, but what the federal government
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is saying is we're no longer going to.
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Borrow money to fund your fraudulent programs in New York State.
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That's coming to an end. So now it comes down
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to what are we going to do? Are we going
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to root out the fraud, waste, and abuse, or are
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you going to cut legitimate taxes?
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Claims out?
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Are you going to kick people off of programs like
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Medicaid that truly deserve it and need it because you're
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unwilling to address the fraud in the program? That's where
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we are in New York State now, and it's very concerning.
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Senator George Borrello, let's pray for common sense to prevail.
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Amen.
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The Cats Roundtable.
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Calling in right now is Bruce Blakeman, and he's traveling
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the city. He's traveling the state. Well, Bruce, how is
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it going this weekend?
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It's going terrific. There's a tremendous amount of enthusiasm. People
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are fed up with Kathy Hochul and her failed policies
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that have made everybody miserable. And they're really excited about
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a candidate. Who's going to save the state? And that's
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what my job is, to save this state. We're losing jobs.
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We're losing people. And our taxes are too high. Our
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utility bills are too high. And Kathy Hochul is the
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most pro-criminal governor in the whole United States of America.
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Well, you know, that I'm disturbed about, too, because the
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pension board, the pension board has let out, I forget
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how many.
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I guess, police killers. And that pension board, I'm very
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concerned about.
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You mean the parole board?
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The parole board.
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Yep.
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So what do you think?
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The parole board, appointed by Kathy Hochul, is letting out
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cop killers back into our communities. It's a disgrace. Everything
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Kathy Hochul does makes us less safe.
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Well, I'm concerned about it for our city and our
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state and the And it's just we want a safe
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city and a safe state for our kids and our grandkids. Well,
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you're traveling far and wide. Anything else you want to
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tell people on a Sunday morning?
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John, I just want to tell people that New York
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State deserves a governor that cares about them, that puts
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New Yorkers first. I'm not going to spend billions of
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dollars of your money on illegal migrants who claim asylum.
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And they just come into the state and they get
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free food, free housing, free transportation, their free cell phone.
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They haven't earned a thing. They get more benefits than
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New Yorkers. Think about this, John. If one of your
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listeners out there loses their job and they're a New Yorker,
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they get less benefits than somebody who comes into the state,
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claims asylum. Kathy Hochul gives them $ 81, 000 of free stuff.
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It's insane. And I'm going to stop it.
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Bruce Blakeman, good luck, and thank you for briefing all
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our listeners. We'll catch up with you again real soon.
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Thanks, John. God bless you, and God bless America.
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What is today is Joseph Hernandez, and he's a Republican
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candidate for New York State Comptroller. I just happened to
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see the debate a couple of days ago between Tom
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DiNapoli and Joseph Hernandez, and Tell us the differences between
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you and Tom and what you stand for and what
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he stands for and why you think you could do
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a better job.
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Well, thank you for having me, John. I really appreciate
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the opportunity. But I think, you know, we had a
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great discussion and debate earlier with Tom, and I think
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the things were very clear. We differentiated ourselves. I mean,
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I think he is... Somebody who's been there for 20
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years has been, in my opinion, institutionalized. Tom has never
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really had a real job in his life. He's been
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a career politician, has been a consulate for 20 years.
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So he's institutionalized. I bring a different perspective. I bring
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a business perspective. I bring somebody who's been on Wall Street.
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I built 12 companies. I brought a number of them public.
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I know about accountability. I know about rooting out inefficiencies
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and processes.
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And I know how to do audits.
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And I think the story is very different.
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We come from different worlds.
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And, you know, I think I highlighted my differences compared
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to his. And I would argue that I think I
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won the debate.
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I really do.
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And I think that's the consistent message here across the board.
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So I guess now the voters have to make a decision.
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I mean, a lot of people know Tom DiNapoli for
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a long time. He's been there for like 20 years.
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And you're very qualified, too. So how do the voters decide?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Look, I mean, look, I think you have to look
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at the numbers. The numbers never lie. Look, I come
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from a financial scientific world. You know, I have a
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degree in biostatistics. Numbers are the truth tellers in the process.
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And I think if you look at Tom's record, you know,
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he's been there. You know, our state budget when he
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when he came into power was one hundred and. $ 120,
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$ 140 billion. Now it's $ 277 billion, John. I mean, if
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we were a country, we would be number 13th on
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the expenditure ranks. We spend more money than Israel, more
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money than Sweden, more money than Poland, more money than Greece.
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And we're a state. We don't even have armies and
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navies around the world or embassies to support. You know, look,
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he's overseeing a government that's been bloated. You know, we
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have a debt obligation at the state level of $ 210 billion.
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Most people don't even know this. We pay $ 1. 3 billion
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in principal and interest a month. before we pay a
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police officer, before we pay a teacher, before we pay Vero.
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And I think we're in a fiscal crisis. And Tom
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has been... It's been on his watch that we're in
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this situation. And the comptroller has an obligation to make
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sure that we hold government accountable. We have crazy fraud
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and abuse in our system. Our Medicaid is one of
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the largest in the nation, $ 124 billion. 35% of the
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people in this state are on Medicaid. This is Tom's watch.
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And I think people are ready for No.
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I understand that. Joseph, I understand that. But I saw
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the debate and and he I thought his responsibility is
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just to control his responsibilities to make the most you
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can on return on investment for your for your portfolio.
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Well, look, he's got.
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Two major roles. The comptroller has two major roles. One
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is audit to make sure the government is being run
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efficiently and effectively and honest. I think he's failed that miserably.
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Last year, we only had nine cases being prosecuted on
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Medicaid fraud.
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Why?
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We have the largest budget in the nation on Medicaid.
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That doesn't sound realistic to me. That's the one thing.
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But in terms of returns, if you look at the
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pension funds, The pension fund, where he claims that last
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quarter the fund did really well, it did 6.2% return, which.
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Is not mediocre, by the way.
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But when you look at how the S & P did,
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when you look at how NASDAQ did, you know, NASDAQ
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performed 21% return. The S & P was 15% return.
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You know, the reality is the fund did not perform
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to where it should be, at the levels it should be.
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And for every dollar we pay out in pension benefits,
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which last year we paid about $ 17. 5 billion, 75 cents
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of that dollar comes in return. The rest of that
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money comes from taxpayers. So, look, he hasn't done a
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great job. I could do a better job. I think
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it's time for a change. Trump has been there for
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a long time. He's been furniture in Albany. We need
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somebody who's going to stand up for the taxpayers, and
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I'm that guy.
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Joseph Hernandez, thank you for coming on this Sunday morning,
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and good luck in what you do. We always wanted
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taxpayers to do a great job. Thank you so much.
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Thank you, John. I appreciate the opportunity. God bless.
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Cheers. Thank you for listening to the Catch Roundtable. We'll
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be right back right after this break. Welcome back to
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the Catch Roundtable. What is today is from the Department
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of Justice. The first assistant United States attorney, John Sarkone,
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from the Northern District of New York. John Sarkone, you
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had a great press conference on Friday afternoon, and you're
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trying to cut down on fraud going on in our country.
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Tell us about it.
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Yes, thank you, John, and thanks for having me on.
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It's always a pleasure to be with.
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You and your audience.
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We had the Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald came in
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from Washington, D.C. today to do this press conference with us.
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It is a stunning, stunning revelation of rampant fraud that
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was taking money away from impoverished people, from people in
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housing districts, from veterans, from homeless people, and into the
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tune of $ 13 million. And it spanned California, Georgia, Indiana, Maryland,
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North Carolina, Tennessee, New York, Texas, Wisconsin, Washington, Michigan, Massachusetts, Florida,
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and Ohio.
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And how were they doing it?
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They were stealing identities of people and applying for benefits
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under the federal programs, benefit plans. And they planned that
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they were transporting homeless people to shelters and transporting people
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from the housing districts and HUD to their doctor's appointments.
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And they weren't doing any of that. They were bilking
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the system. They did collect almost $ 2 million. Of the
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$ 13 million, many of the banks realized there was some
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scam going on and didn't release the funds. But they
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got away with it, $ 1. 9 million, and they spent it lavishly.
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Understood. And how much of this is going on in
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our country?
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John, it's going on everywhere.
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This is where.
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I call the revolving door of public money fraud. This
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has been going on since the prior administration when they
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let loose and we had the invasion that came in.
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There was no money for any of that. So it
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just became a free for all. I mean, look what's
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going on in Minnesota, California, here in New York. There's
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It's now we have a president and an attorney general
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who are determined to stop it.
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Understood. I understood that because is the state attorney general's
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not doing anything or is the local DA's not doing anything?
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Well, let's say this. If these two individuals, now convicted felons,
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if this case was referred to the state and one
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of them is a Colombian citizen, they will have likely
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fled to Colombia. We'll probably never see them again.
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All right.
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And we don't have that here in the federal system.
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But New York, with its no bail, is it's the
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revolving door of crime. That's what I call it here
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in New York. So I'm glad that, by the way,
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I have to credit the state comptroller, Tom DiNapoli, and
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his office and his team for referring this to us.
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And we're going to continue to do great work together.
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Well, John Sarkone, thank you for getting this thing done
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and reducing the fraud in our country. And we'll talk
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to you again real soon.
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Thank you, John.
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Always a pleasure.
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New York City Partnership. And Steve Phillip is the CEO.
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And Steve, we're all very concerned about what's going on
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in our city and our state. And give us an update.
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Well, it's been a busy week, to say the least.
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You know, earlier in this week, Morgan Stanley announced that
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they have 3,800 jobs scaling up in Texas and talking
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about Dallas. Every job that's not in New York City
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is obviously a lost opportunity for us. So that's pretty
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significant because we've seen in the last couple of months,
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you know, Citadel, Goldman, JP Morgan, Apollo, all talking about
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the attraction in Texas. So bad for New York. got
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to fix that. Also this week, we saw a huge
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gift to Miami from Ken Griffin from Citadel, $ 3 billion.
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And what I like to people is that when people
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have second headquarters or second offices, the philanthropy doesn't double.
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It gets shared between different places. So You know, when
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Ken Griffin, who had a presence in New York City
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and a presence in Chicago, goes to Miami and gives
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that money, it's a loss for us. And then, of course,
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we have some news around the DSA and some stuff
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that The Post reported.
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Understood. Now, I understand you spoke to the mayor the
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other day. There was concerns that you had and your
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members had that they're going to target certain executives with
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social media. And you had a good conversation, I understand,
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with the mayor.
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Yeah, I mean, look, the Post reported that there's a
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deliberate effort of the DSA, so the Democratic Socialists, to
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single out individual CEOs by name and start disparaging campaigns
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about them. And it sounded like a very extraordinary step
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in a negative way. especially when you think about the
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assassination of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. We're in an environment
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with a lot of mental illness. And, of course, there's
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more political violence. So I reached out to the mayor,
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to his political director, to his comms director, and we
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all connected. And they said it wasn't true. And so
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you take him at his word. And you stay vigilant
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and watchful, but you've got to take him at his
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word because nothing happened yet. Just the Post reported that
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that was his intention.
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Well, I'm happy that you got the truth out because, hey,
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some of us have to get the truth out versus
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just fake news and rumors.
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Yeah, I mean, look, I think that any time that
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you would single out an executive by name, it goes
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beyond the pale of disagreement about a policy. In many ways,
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you'd be inciting violence and actions that could be really
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harmful and scary. So, you know, I thought it was
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appropriate to reach out directly. And they said that there's
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no validity to that. So, you know, let's take them
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at his word.
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I agree with you. Anything else you want to tell
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all New Yorkers?
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No, I think it's been another busy week here. Every
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week is an eventful week. This one was particularly eventful.
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But we'll see what the new week brings.
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Well, we have elections coming up in a few weeks.
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And I guess the truth is, I don't know what
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the pulse of things are. But all I want is
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common sense in our city, in our state. And all
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I want is safety for our kids and our grandkids.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Thank you so much.
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Thanks.
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Calling in Bernadette Castro. She worked for Governor Pataki. for
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12 years. Well, Bernadette Castro, I still remember the day
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you were pulling out that Castro convertible.
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I love it, John. And I grew up with a
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lot of New Yorkers. And listen, I did work for
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Pataki for 12 years, day in and day out. And
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I know what a good governor looks like. Bruce Blakeman
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will be that kind of governor. We need that desperately.
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He knows that pocketbooks are hurting. Budgets are hurting. He's
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going to lower utility bills. What he did in Nassau County,
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as county exec for five years, he's in year five,
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he not only didn't raise taxes, he killed $ 150 million
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of planned new taxes. He killed them. You know, this
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is a governor who gets it. You know, of course he's,
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you know, for women's rights. You know, he's a moderate Republican.
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He's pro-choice. He's fiscally conservative, but he's socially inclusive. He's
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exactly the kind of governor Pataki was. He will be that.
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And we need that desperately. He believes in law enforcement.
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He hired more cops in Nassau County.
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Why?
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Because he was on the Port Authority board when we
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were attacked on 9-11. All right? He's ready to be governor.
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You know, I just want people to do one thing
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for me. Get to the polls.
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Take other people.
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He's going to win this race. because of unlikely voters
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getting their butts out of the House and going to
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the polls.
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So, Bernadette Castro, you're looking at Bruce Blakeman as another
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George Pataki, and George Pataki did a great job for
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12 years.
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He was a moderate Republican. He was perfect.
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He did so much for so many different entities in
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New York, whether it was the environment, whether it was
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law enforcement, and he was governor during 9-11.
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And you did a great job taking care of the
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parks departments for 12 years.
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Right, because I had the support of a green Republican,
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which Bruce Blakeman is. But let me tell you something
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about early voting. Get out and early vote and then
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start taking friends, senior citizens, people to vote. If we
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get out the vote, Blakeman's going to win this thing.
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We're not going to win it by us talking about it.
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We're going to win it by getting out starting October 24th,
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a Saturday. You can early vote. So there's no excuse.
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You've got eight days to vote. And that's really important.
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What has he done for women, girls' sports, women's sports
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in Nassau County? What he said is if you're going
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to compete on a Nassau County athletic field or facility
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in a girls' or women's sports, you have to be
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born a female. No transgender. I have a daughter and
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granddaughters that played ice hockey in college. They would never
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have been able to compete against transgender players. So what
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he did for women's sports, he will continue that fight.
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In addition, he founded the first breast cancer resource center
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in Nassau County. So this is a governor who gets
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the economy. He gets the rights of women, the rights
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of people that want to say, I don't want to
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pay these utility bills. I don't want to move to
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Florida when I retire. I want to stay near my grandchildren.
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Bruce Blakeman gets it. So, John, I'm telling you, I'm
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working hard for him. And everyone listening, you don't have
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to give big money. Little money is fine, but you
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need to vote.
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And what's the website to go to on that?
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It's just Blakeman for New York, Blakeman for governor. You
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can Google anything you want with Bruce Blakeman's name and
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you'll get to the website and you'll be able to
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donate and you'll be able to read about his policies,
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which you're going to love. So this is a guy
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with a good track record. I have known him for
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decades as a person and I have been impressed. And
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Governor Pataki has endorsed him. I really hope your listeners
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will just motivate themselves, give a little if they can,
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for sure get out and vote. Take others to vote.
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Take two people to the polls one day. Take another
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one another day.
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You've got eight days.
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Understood. Bernadette Castro, Women for Black Lives Matter. thank you
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for coming on, and we'll catch up with you again
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real soon. Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Bye-bye.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you for listening to the Catch Roundtable.
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We'll be right back right after this break. Welcome back
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to the Catch Roundtable.
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We'll be right back.
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Well, this is our good friend, Steve Cates, also known
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as Dr. Sky. He's on every Friday night of Saturday
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morning from 12 midnight to 2 and Saturday night, Sunday
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morning from 12 to 2. Well, Steve Cates, tell us
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what's going on in outer space.
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Well, good morning, John, and to the listeners, happy October.
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One big news story, John, that starts our conversation on
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Sunday is strange signals coming from a star some 69
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light years away. And what's so unusual about this, John,
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is that we have never detected this particular story. And
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what is the story? We know now there are about 6,000 exoplanets.
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These are planets discovered about other stars. And one in particular,
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it's a constellation called Pictoris in the southern hemisphere. The
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star Beta Pictoris is has a strange exoplanet, how creative,
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Beta Pictoris B. And radio astronomers, John, have detected some
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sort of radio transmission coming from it. What makes it unusual?
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No exoplanet has ever sent radio signals. So the astronomers
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put their thinking caps on, and they believe that the
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causation of this, like Jupiter, like the Earth, we have
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auroras that are created by powerful radiation storms. And they
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simply think, may not be aliens per se, obviously, but
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that out there in the distant universe, 69 light years away,
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we're first detecting a tiny little object that far away,
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and we separated the star's energy from that of the planet.
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I give kudos to the astronomers who've been able to
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slice the pie, as they say, and detect these strange signals.
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It's amazing.
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Why all of a sudden they come up with these strange...
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I mean, it's... Is there a reason? Who did it?
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NASA did it? Who did it?
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No, it's actually a radio telescope, John, in South Africa.
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And they have 64 of these big, gigantic dishes. You know,
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the days when people, well, some still do depend on
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their satellite transmissions, but from the ground to space. What
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makes this unusual, and I find it very, very strange,
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is that when we look at a star that far away,
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and that we're now able to determine that it's not
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the star, so precision, it's like looking under the microscope,
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We've detected these strange signals, but obviously many people believe
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that it could be extraterrestrial life. But in this case,
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the Great Mirror Telescope, they call it in South Africa,
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has done something I find very, very unusual, John. So
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it means that many of these planets that are bound
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out in the solar system and out into the universe,
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they may also have similarities to even closer planets. The
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beat goes on. The discovery is interesting.
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Understood.
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We talk about something else, John. This is fascinating. On
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this date, 69 years ago, we began the space program. Now,
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I was just a one-year-old running around, I guess, in Jamaica,
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New York, and this was the Sputnik launch. But let's
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talk about one of the great things that just happened
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last week. SpaceX launched Starship 14. This is the most
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powerful rocket, John, in the entire world, 16 million pounds
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of thrust. This time, they wanted to put the spacecraft
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on top which is the craft that hopefully will go
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to the moon and Mars, to go into orbit around
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the Earth. It's a very difficult thing to do. One
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of the engines on the Starship failed, so they didn't
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get to do 10 orbits. But they deployed, get a
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look at this, brand-new, much larger Starlink satellites called V3s.
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So they succeeded in that, but they have a long
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way to go, John. I think you would agree, before
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we can now determine that we can send astronauts on
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that particular craft. This is the 14th time that they've
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launched it. Great success that they've had. But all these
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things in space can be very dangerous, and they simply
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take a lot.
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So it's the 14th time. How many cases did they
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have a problem?
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Well, they had engine problem on the Starship rocket. So
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they were going to orbit 10 times, as I said,
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the Earth. But no, they decided they would shorten the mission.
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But the goal was to get that spacecraft into orbit.
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And they released, as I said, these new satellites. Starship
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14 is a great success. It's amazing, John. Just think
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about 50 years ago when we started to talk about
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the beginning of the space program 69 years ago. We
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still have a long way to go. And obviously, let's
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not rush landing on the moon and going to Mars
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until we can perfect this particular spacecraft. But they have
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a long.
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Way to go before we go to warp speed. I understand.
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Absolutely, John. And speaking of that, here's something interesting in
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my mind. The mystery of the week. What is the
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Stirling engine? And why is it called by some the
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Star Drive? This is amazing. In 1816, a British clergyman,
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Robert Stirling, developed this engine called the closed cycle external
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combustion engine. Sounds like a lot of words. What is it?
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It's a fixed amount of gas which expands when hot
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and contracts when cold and pushes a piston, much different
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than this type of gas engines that we use today.
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And it's now used, John, on some nuclear submarines around
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the world. And this technology that NASA is working on
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and other space agencies is They're going to deploy the
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Sterling engine concept to rocket propulsion, nuclear rocket propulsion, and
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maybe then, John, we'll get closer to the warp drive
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concept that we watch and see on so many science
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fiction shows. And, John, we wish everybody the best for
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a happy Sunday. Always remind them to keep their eyes
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to the skies and appreciate them tuning in to the Dr.
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Sky experience, as you mentioned at the top of this broadcast.
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Thank you so much, and we'll catch up again real soon.
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Thank you, Joe.
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The Cats Roundtable.
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With us today is Christine Hanlon, the New Jersey GOP chair. Well, Christine,
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so many things are happening in New Jersey. You had
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the resignation of your lieutenant governor. Would you give us
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an update what the heck is going on?
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Yes, it's quite unbelievable that we already have a major
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failure of the Sherrill administration with the resignation of our governor.
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Lieutenant Governor, who just took office not that long ago,
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this is a debacle, one of many messes that has
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been going on in the Sherrill administration, and this is
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the latest example.
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There was rumors that he mishandled certain things. Then there's
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other rumors that they didn't want him around because he
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had certain allegations that he was making. Do you know
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anything about any of that?
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Yeah, I mean, this has been really lately looking like
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a he said, she said. We got wind a couple
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of weeks ago. It was reported in the New Jersey
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Globe that there was a month-long investigation behind closed doors,
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hidden from the public, of the lieutenant governor for certain
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ethics violations and inappropriate behavior with women. That was being
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investigated by the administration. This is all being done in secret.
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The public was not aware. And while this was going on,
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the governor left the state to go campaign for democratic
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congressional candidates all over the country. And here we had
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somebody who was under investigation without the public being aware
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without people in the workplace being aware. of allegations of
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misconduct toward women and these ethics type violations. Once it
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was leaked to the public, all of a sudden things changed.
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You know, the governor was like, oh, I'm going to
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take this seriously and I'm not going to travel. But meanwhile,
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for months she was traveling and leaving the lieutenant governor
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in charge. He has been fighting these accusations saying, you know,
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it's not accurate. But the other day she said, oh, hey,
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we have this court and I want you to resign. Now,
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mind you, the NJGOP two weeks ago called on him
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to resign. And then I guess the governor followed suit
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just the other day, demanding that he resign. And within
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24 hours, even though he said he wasn't going to resign,
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he then resigned last Friday.
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Are you saying that the New Jersey GOP was calling
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on him to resign, too?
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We did several weeks ago, as soon as we found
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out about the investigation and the allegation. Now, mind you,
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this whole thing was a failure of the governor's office because,
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you know, they picked him as the candidate, perhaps didn't
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vet adequately enough. But once we heard the seriousness of
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the allegations, we called on him to resign and The
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governor at that time was like, I can't speak about
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ongoing investigations, etc. And then two weeks later, she then
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asked him to resign.
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What else is happening in New Jersey? Anything else? Anything good?
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Well, we are fighting really hard to keep control of Congress,
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as you know. We have some really big races here
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in New Jersey. Biggest race is congressional district seven, which
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is Congressman Tom King Jr. We are fighting to keep
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that seat in Republican hands. The road to keeping control
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in Congress runs right through Congressional District 7 in New Jersey.
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I know there's some really important races in New York
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that we're fighting to keep our Republican congressional members in office.
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And we're doing that here, too, in New Jersey. It's
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an important election cycle. We need everyone to get out
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and vote, keep Tom King Jr. in office. He's a
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great congressman, really has served his district well, and we
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are fighting and putting a lot of resources into that
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race to make sure we keep that seat.
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Thank you so much for coming on this Sunday morning.
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Thanks for having me.
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This is John Terry to tell us how the markets
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have done and what they're going to do. What do
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we have to look forward to? John Terry, give us
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a report.
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Well, you know, Joel, it's really funny because actually the
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markets were on a bit of a wild ride last week.
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But if you look at the NASDAQ and the S
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& P 500, even if they're down, they're actually not
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that far away from their all-time highs.
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Of course, the big.
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Story of last week came on Friday when we had
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the government jobs report for the month of September, the
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so-called non-farms. Only 29,000 jobs added in the month of September.
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Not the 90,000 economists have been expecting. Unemployment rate up
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to 4.2% from 4.1%. Average hourly earnings up just one-tenth
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of 1%. Now, the thing is, the markets rose on
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that news because when you combine it with other data
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that's been coming in, it's all looking pretty good when
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it comes to the next Fed meeting. For example, yesterday,
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the weekly jobless, or rather on Thursday, the weekly jobless numbers,
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they came in about 1,000 lower than had been anticipated.
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And PCE, which is the Fed's preferred measure of inflation,
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personal consumption, and expenditure, the core, which you get when
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you take out food and energy of that, was 3%.
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And all of this takes the pressure off the Fed
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to raise rates when they meet again on the 27th
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and the 28th of this month. Company news this week,
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a couple of stories that really stood out to me.
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The Walt Disney Company cutting hundreds of jobs at its
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TV stations, its network, and I think at ESPN as well.
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And what's interesting about this is that Disney makes regular
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cuts to its television divisions as well and other divisions.
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They've been laying off a lot of people in recent history.
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The Disney shares were more or less unchanged, but they
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were up a bit. And then Mattel, the giant toy
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company in California responsible for Barbie and American Girl and
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Hot Wheels. It was said by the Wall Street Journal
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midweek that Mattel is the subject of a takeover bid
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by authentic brands. Well, Mattel stock rose by about 18
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to 20 percent on this news. But what's interesting to
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me is authentic brands. They don't really make anything. What
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they do is they go around buying premium brands. And
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I thought it might interest you to know that among
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the brands, they have about 50 of them. Among the
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brands that they own these days, the name and therefore
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everything about Elvis Presley. And Marilyn Monroe. The crypto story
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of the week was that the man that wrote the
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Clarity Act, which failed in the Senate a couple of
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weeks ago, had a victory this week because he wrote
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a new bill and it's passed. They're going to scrap
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the penny. That's the one cent, of course. They're going
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to allow retailers to round up bills, particularly in restaurants,
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by five cents. This gets around a legal problem that
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has been looming. And they're also putting cheaper materials into
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the nickel, the five cent in future, to make it
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cheaper to make those. It has passed the Senate now.
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It will go to President Trump for signing. And in
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the week ahead, quite a quiet week coming up. We've
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got third quarter earnings getting underway, though. At the end
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of the week, we'll hear from PepsiCo, based in New
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York State, and Delta Airlines, based in Georgia. And the
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big bank earnings start a week on Tuesday, the 13th
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of October, with J.P.
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Morgan.
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John. pretty fast. I mean, some of the bank stocks
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are way down. Bank of America is way down. And,
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you know, they should all be doing well.
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Well, the bank earnings usually kick off the quarterly earnings season.
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It's usually the first big news of it. So we'll
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see what happens when we get to that in just
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over a week's time, John.
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Thank you so much. And we'll catch up with you
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again real soon.
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Yep.
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See you next Sunday. Thank you so much.
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Bye.
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Thank you for being with us for the Cats Roundtable
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Local Edition, the number one show on Sunday mornings in
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New York. Keep listening to us for the Cats Roundtable
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National Edition between 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock. So we'll
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be back to you in a few minutes after the news.
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This is the Cats Roundtable with John Katsimatidis.
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Everywhere around the world, they come to America. Every time
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that flag's unfurled, they come into America.
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Good morning, New York. This is the Cats Roundtable. John
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Katsimatidis here, Sunday morning. John Terrett, what's going on with
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the markets? George Borrello from upstate New York on the
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state of the state. Steve Phillip, New York City Partnership.
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And he's going to give us the state of the city.
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Bonnie Brady, well, those windmills. Let's see what Bonnie Brady
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has to say. Bruce Blakeman, running for governor in the
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state of New York. Steve Cates, Dr. Sky, New Jersey
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GOP chair. Christine Hanlon, Bernadette Castro. wants to put together
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women for Bruce Blakeman, Joseph Hernandez running for Comptroller of
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the State of New York, John Sarkone, the Assistant U.S.
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Attorney for the Northern District, and let's start off with
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Michael Stoller and the Real Estate Report.
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Good morning, this is Mike Stoller for the Stoller Real
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Estate Report. It's an unusual time when you would have
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a developer and his counsel together on a show. So
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today I have an interesting group of individuals. I have
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Eli Weiss, the developer, okay, and principal at Joy Construction.
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And then I also have the senior counsel, making him
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older than he is. I have the managing partner, at Goldberg, Webber, Finkel, Goldstein, LLP.
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Andy Obstein.
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Good morning.
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Good morning.
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So we were talking, it's interesting that the two of
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you work together and even own some properties together. So
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let's talk about the time today as compared to 40
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years ago, Andy, when you started in the business.
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All right.
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That's a very interesting question. First of all, thank you
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for having me this morning. I'm a fan of the show.
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I listen every week. It annoys my wife because of
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the early hour, but I've been married that long. I
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can get away with it.
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Right.
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I guess when I started, which was 40 years ago
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in real estate, maybe a little longer, the dream was
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always to own real estate for every American. Everybody either
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wanted to own a home. They wanted to own income-producing property.
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They always had some affinity or interest in real estate
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ownership as being satisfying the goals of growing up. And
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so people would come to me. They were buying a home.
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They would be buying a home in New York. They
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could be an out-of-state of buying a home in New York.
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They would come to me that they were buying rented property.
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Some came to me. They were developing property.
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I would.
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I would get a term sheet from a broker. I
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would call the lawyer for the seller if I was
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representing the buyer. I would go over to their office.
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We would have forms, fill it out, sign a contract
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in a matter of an hour or two hours. And
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the deal would happen usually without an issue. Now you
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go 40 years later and you have legislatures both at
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the city and the state that are attempting to do
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good good deeds. They're attempting to pass legislation that's going
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to help everyone. And there are unintended consequences.
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What do you mean unintended consequences?
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Every law, uh, the building still stands, but the economics
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of it, it changes the economics, changes development possibilities. It
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changes the income possibilities. Uh, it changes what an owner
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has to do in terms of ownership. And it becomes now, uh,
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a labyrinth of laws that have to be navigated and
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you can't just go and sign a contract. You have to,
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what we call due diligence. You have to look into
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the properties. You have to understand them, uh, very well,
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as well as the seller, if not much better. And
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you have to be prepared not only to deal with
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the new legislations, but you have to be prepared to
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deal with what may be new legislations. You have to
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consider it all. So I'm not only a contract lawyer, uh,
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I go through the economics, and at times I'm even
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a psychiatrist. I have to go through with the buyers
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all the possibilities, all the risks, and I have to
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try to get them in a state of comfort. Nothing
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is an easy transaction.
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Nothing is an easy transaction. Let's ask Eli his thoughts.
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You've been involved with the business over 25 years, okay,
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starting in the government. So let's talk from the perspective
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of the government coming through today. and then some of
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the work about the armory and others.
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Sure. So thanks again for having me.
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It's great to be here with Andy, his longtime friend, partner,
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trusted advisor, even surpasses my mother-in-law in terms of giving
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good advice. But to be very candid, I think Andy
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is 100% right. I think 40 or 50 years ago,
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real estate in general was a far less institutional business
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that seemed to be far less regulated and intertwined with legislations.
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I think you had a lot of people that just
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bought property, and there was only one direction that property
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only went up. People bought and held, and financing was
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far less complex. You went to a local bank, you
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shook somebody's hand, you went out for.
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A closing dinner, and that was the end of it.
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What's changed is, A, capital markets are far more sophisticated,
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and that makes capital stacks, raising money, the size of deals,
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the complexities of deals, infinitely more complicated than they were
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when I started. And I think Andy's 100% right. I
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think that today where capital is fungible, right? So when
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I grew up, people didn't really live in New York
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and do business overseas or live in New York and
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buy real estate in Arizona. It was very difficult to
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do that. Email, fax, all of that came much later.
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more important because back then, like I said, Things were
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much simpler, right? Capital stacks were simpler. Regulations were far
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less important. Now, in today's world, people are going out
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and buying assets all over, whether it be people from
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New York buying in the South, people in the.
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South looking to buy in New York.
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we do in New York that's highly regulated, and it's
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not just that it's highly regulated, it's also in flux, right?
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There have been big swings in policy.
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I think on some level, you have to just be
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honest and say that's going to impact the market. Not
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always adversely, but it's going to have much more of
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an impact than it did historically.
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So I'm going to have you back next week and
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we're going to continue this discussion.
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The Cats Roundtable.
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With us today is Bonnie Brady. You're representing a larger
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number of people now than ever before. Tell us who
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you represent.
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I am the policy director for the New England Fishermen's
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Stewardship Association. We represent commercial fishermen from New Jersey all
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the way up to Maine. In Washington right now, and
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what happened seven years ago, we lost a boat called
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the Mistress out of Rhode Island.
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And the guy doing the— he was on last week on
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our show last Sunday.
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Right, Mike Lombardi. He did the Green Oceans. They did
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a report, and they were able to find the— remains
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of the boat, the fishing vessel Mistress, 50 feet away
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from one of the jacket foundations.
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that's what crushed it and went down.
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I happened to do the Freedom of Information Act call
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on the MISLA, it's called M-I-S-L-E, the Marine Report of
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the Coast Guard, when that boat went down in 2023.
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and rescue helicopter comes from Cape Cod, Air Station Cape Cod.
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the only— they talked about low visibility. I think it was
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a ceiling of about 100 to 300 feet and wind.
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And the hazard they mentioned probably eight times in the report,
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wind turbines. Now, I went so far as to call
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a guy in Boston— After I got that report, someone
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who used to work as a helicopter pilot for the
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Coast Guard and did hundreds of search and rescue missions.
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it's 1 to 300 visibility and the weather is crap.
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That's nothing new. That's standard operating procedure for us. You
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don't normally have problems in a bright, sunny day. Forget
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about that. The issue was very clearly the hazard of
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wind turbines. And John, you've heard me say this so
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many times, I'm sure you're ready to heave. Search and
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rescue doesn't work with wind turbines. You can't, the marine
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radar or any radar that would need to look into
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an area, especially at night when it's blowing 40 to
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50 miles an hour and you've got 10 to 15
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foot seas, you use something called your radar. And if
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your radar, which is a line of sight, just like
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an arrow pointing from wherever you are directly in front
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of you, hits a giant steel forest, or in this case, Five,
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only five turbines. and provides clutter or scatter so they
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can't just figure out what's what or where they're going.
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They aborted the mission, John. Now, what happened apparently when
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it started, because I read the report over and over again,
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They were taking on some water. They were heading back.
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The captain got both his son and his nephew down.
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got them in their Gumby suits, which are the orange suits,
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you know, for floating. They put out a mayday. He
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was below turbine two. He put out one more mayday,
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apparently closer to one. Now, remember, you've heard me say
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this too. When you have these giant turbines in the water,
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not only do they affect the wind because of the
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blades going across so that behind them there's less wind,
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but also in the water they create scour. Why? Because
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the water has current.
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It moves.
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past this large metal thing in a huge storm, if
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the current's going in the direction of where that tower is,
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guess where your boat's going to go? I don't know
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if they hit it or not. We'd have to be
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able to try to find out from what's left down
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on that ocean floor. But the reality is they could
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have gotten pulled into the area. And if someone tried
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to turn the wheel quickly to get away because they
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knew they were like a almost like a rapid river ride.
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I've been on boats and you've been on boats. And
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if a big swell comes up. It could push you
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300 feet into it.
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It could push you, or if you're trying to get
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away from it, what do you do? You turn the
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wheel hard, and with the boat already having issues with water,
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it could have rolled over. We know that the son
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who was up in the rigging trying to get the
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raft off of the boat got thrown into the rigging
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when the boat rolled. He never saw his father again, apparently.
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He never saw, according to the Coast Guard report, he
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never saw his cousin again. And he held on to
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some part of the boat until I guess it sank.
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At that point, they had a raft, the rescue raft,
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released from the boat. They've got something called a hydrostatic release.
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It releases, it adds air, and then it floats to
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the top. And he got in it. And a boat
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called the Captain Bly, about 30 minutes racing to the scene,
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they picked him up.
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That was it.
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He's a very lucky kid.
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Oh, he's an incredibly lucky kid. But I mean, my God,
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he lost his dad and he lost his cousin. And
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here we find out now, seven years later, the boat's
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right at Turbine One. But here's the part.
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There's a bigger investigation and we only have a minute
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or so left. The bigger investigation is who did those companies,
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the original companies, which included one of the countries, pay
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off in campaign funds to create those windmills?
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Well, here's part of the problem, though, John. They did
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maintenance as soon as April of 2019. We saw in
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the pictures in that report that was in The Washington Times,
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if anyone wants to go and look at it, where
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you can see the spud marks right next to that boat.
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Somebody knew. What did they know, and when did they
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know it? And the people involved, it was Deepwater Wind
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that then became Orsted. Danish, Kingdom of Denmark, 51% owned.
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Do you know why they probably didn't say a darn word?
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Because you would have had to have had people down
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there looking, the radar, the divers. They don't just find
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up anywhere and just stick their.
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So you think the incident happened in 2019 and what... In.
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April and in August, apparently they did maintenance work on
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that turbine. In order to do it, they take something
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called a jack-up vessel that's just like a giant 350,
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400-foot boat that basically is kind of on stilts. And
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what they do is they plant the stilts on the
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ocean floor, and then they jack up the boat so
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they can work on the turbine. They had to have
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known when they were putting that up, if that was
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near the boat, they had to have seen it. But
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why wouldn't they have told anyone, John? Because it would
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have screwed up all of the federal offshore wind lease
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areas if they knew that search and rescue could not
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be completed when you have a wind farm. And this
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is not just for fishermen. This is for anybody on
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a boat, whether you're a tanker, whether you're a yacht,
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whether you're a pilot, anybody.
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Bonnie, to be continued. You know why? This is important,
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and it's affecting our cost of electricity. It's affecting our
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national defense. Thank you so much.
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And it cost these people possibly their lives, John.
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Yes, and this is going to be continued. Thank you
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so much.
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Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to the Cats Roundtable. We'll be
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right back right after this break. Welcome back to the
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Cats Roundtable.
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Hi.
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Calling in today is Senator George Borrello, New York State
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Senator from Chautauqua County. Well, Senator, where do you want
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to start?
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Well, John, first of all, whether it's Chautauqua County or
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whether it's New York City or anywhere in between, we're
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realizing now how much New York State overtaxes its citizens.
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In fact, the nonpartisan watchdog group, the Citizens Budget Commission,
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just found that New.
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York State local governments collecting on.
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Average about $ 12, 500 per person per year, which is the
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highest in the nation. It's even 22% higher than the
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state of California, which has a reputation for being high
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in taxes. So when, whether it's Governor Hochul or it's
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Zoram Amdani talk about taxing the rich, we're taxing everyone
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and well beyond.
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Any other state in the nation.
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And it's why we lead the nation in out-migration. More
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people leave New York State for places like New Jersey,
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not just Florida and Texas, but New Jersey and Pennsylvania,
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which are the top two states that people.
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Leave New York for.
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We need to have change. We need to put more
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money into people's pockets and less into this massive government
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overspending machine.
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You are in the state Senate. How is the state
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Senate going? Because you have checks and balances if you
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have the right numbers.
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Well, that's really what it's about.
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If you have looked, the last time.
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We had divided government, balanced government, when the Republicans were
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in charge in the New York State Senate, which ended
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at the beginning of 2019, is the last time we saw,
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quite frankly, responsible spending. Since then, the budget back then
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was about $ 170 billion with a B. Now, fast forward here, basically,
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seven budget cycles, and it's $ 277 billion. So you went
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from $ 170 to $ 277 billion under one-party Democrat rule. And
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in that period of time, we've also had a huge
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increase in fraud and abuse, particularly in Medicaid. Medicaid now
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consumes about half of New York State's budget, and there's
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been no appetite to actually address the fraud, waste.
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And abuse.
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And this is what common-sense folks like Tom DiNopoli, who's
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a fellow Democrat, has said about the fraud, waste, and
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abuse in programs like Medicaid.
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So this is not about we.
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Don't tax enough and we have to tax more. This
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is about New York State spending too much and not
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addressing the wastefulness in those programs like Medicaid.
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You know, we talked about that Florida was like $ 25
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billion that has more people than New York. And how
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did we get to $ 125 billion in New York?
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Well, again, because we've allowed these programs to grow out
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of control. First and foremost, we don't address the fraudulent
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part of Medicaid. And I'm not just talking about people
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that aren't eligible that are on Medicaid.
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That's certainly a big.
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Part of it.
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But I'm talking about the billions of dollars in fraudulent billing.
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That just isn't real.
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That you have providers that are billing for services that
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they're not providing. We saw recently an exposure of a
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program in Queens where a group has billed over $ 200
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million for what was supposed to be senior dayhab programs.
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That was a total fraud.
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There were something like 77 senior dayhab programs in like
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a two-mile radius in Queens, most of which were fraudulent.
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And yet we have an attorney general here in New York.
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State that rates last 50th out of 50 for convicting
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people of Medicaid fraud. So it's a perfect storm of fraud, waste,
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and abuse that has resulted in New York State taxing
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its citizens more than any other state in the nation.
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So we have to draw that.
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Line between waste, fraud, and abuse and the fact that
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we overtax our citizens, which is driving businesses and families
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out of New York State at a record pace.
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Is there anybody doing any checks and balances at all?
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Well, look, we try to call this out in the
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New York State Senate, in particular in.
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The Republican Conference. We've called out the fraud, waste, and abuse.
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Like I said, we've even had bipartisan support from Tom DiNapoli.
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And there are others that have called this out. But
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you need to have the political will to not just
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call it out, but for people to actually take action.
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And that's where we need.
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A change in leadership. particularly at the executive level.
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We need a.
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Strong executive branch that is willing to root out the fraud, waste,
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and abuse. And you have a federal government right now
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that's basically saying, we're not going to fund this anymore.
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My Democrat colleagues and Governor Hochul are wringing.
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Their hands over federal cuts, but what the federal government
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is saying is we're no longer going to.
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Borrow money to fund your fraudulent programs in New York State.
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That's coming to an end. So now it comes down
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to what are we going to do? Are we going
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to root out the fraud, waste, and abuse, or are
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you going to cut legitimate taxes?
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Claims out?
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Are you going to kick people off of programs like
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Medicaid that truly deserve it and need it because you're
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unwilling to address the fraud in the program? That's where
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we are in New York State now, and it's very concerning.
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Senator George Borrello, let's pray for common sense to prevail.
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Amen.
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The Cats Roundtable.
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Calling in right now is Bruce Blakeman, and he's traveling
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the city. He's traveling the state. Well, Bruce, how is
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it going this weekend?
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It's going terrific. There's a tremendous amount of enthusiasm. People
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are fed up with Kathy Hochul and her failed policies
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that have made everybody miserable. And they're really excited about
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a candidate. Who's going to save the state? And that's
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what my job is, to save this state. We're losing jobs.
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We're losing people. And our taxes are too high. Our
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utility bills are too high. And Kathy Hochul is the
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most pro-criminal governor in the whole United States of America.
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Well, you know, that I'm disturbed about, too, because the
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pension board, the pension board has let out, I forget
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how many.
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I guess, police killers. And that pension board, I'm very
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concerned about.
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You mean the parole board?
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The parole board.
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Yep.
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So what do you think?
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The parole board, appointed by Kathy Hochul, is letting out
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cop killers back into our communities. It's a disgrace. Everything
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Kathy Hochul does makes us less safe.
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Well, I'm concerned about it for our city and our
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state and the And it's just we want a safe
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city and a safe state for our kids and our grandkids. Well,
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you're traveling far and wide. Anything else you want to
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tell people on a Sunday morning?
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John, I just want to tell people that New York
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State deserves a governor that cares about them, that puts
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New Yorkers first. I'm not going to spend billions of
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dollars of your money on illegal migrants who claim asylum.
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And they just come into the state and they get
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free food, free housing, free transportation, their free cell phone.
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They haven't earned a thing. They get more benefits than
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New Yorkers. Think about this, John. If one of your
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listeners out there loses their job and they're a New Yorker,
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they get less benefits than somebody who comes into the state,
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claims asylum. Kathy Hochul gives them $ 81, 000 of free stuff.
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It's insane. And I'm going to stop it.
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Bruce Blakeman, good luck, and thank you for briefing all
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our listeners. We'll catch up with you again real soon.
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Thanks, John. God bless you, and God bless America.
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What is today is Joseph Hernandez, and he's a Republican
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candidate for New York State Comptroller. I just happened to
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see the debate a couple of days ago between Tom
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DiNapoli and Joseph Hernandez, and Tell us the differences between
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you and Tom and what you stand for and what
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he stands for and why you think you could do
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a better job.
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Well, thank you for having me, John. I really appreciate
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the opportunity. But I think, you know, we had a
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great discussion and debate earlier with Tom, and I think
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the things were very clear. We differentiated ourselves. I mean,
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I think he is... Somebody who's been there for 20
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years has been, in my opinion, institutionalized. Tom has never
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really had a real job in his life. He's been
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a career politician, has been a consulate for 20 years.
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So he's institutionalized. I bring a different perspective. I bring
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a business perspective. I bring somebody who's been on Wall Street.
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I built 12 companies. I brought a number of them public.
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I know about accountability. I know about rooting out inefficiencies
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and processes.
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And I know how to do audits.
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And I think the story is very different.
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We come from different worlds.
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And, you know, I think I highlighted my differences compared
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to his. And I would argue that I think I
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won the debate.
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I really do.
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And I think that's the consistent message here across the board.
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So I guess now the voters have to make a decision.
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I mean, a lot of people know Tom DiNapoli for
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a long time. He's been there for like 20 years.
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And you're very qualified, too. So how do the voters decide?
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Yeah.
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Look, I mean, look, I think you have to look
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at the numbers. The numbers never lie. Look, I come
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from a financial scientific world. You know, I have a
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degree in biostatistics. Numbers are the truth tellers in the process.
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And I think if you look at Tom's record, you know,
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he's been there. You know, our state budget when he
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when he came into power was one hundred and. $ 120,
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$ 140 billion. Now it's $ 277 billion, John. I mean, if
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we were a country, we would be number 13th on
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the expenditure ranks. We spend more money than Israel, more
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money than Sweden, more money than Poland, more money than Greece.
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And we're a state. We don't even have armies and
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navies around the world or embassies to support. You know, look,
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he's overseeing a government that's been bloated. You know, we
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have a debt obligation at the state level of $ 210 billion.
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Most people don't even know this. We pay $ 1. 3 billion
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in principal and interest a month. before we pay a
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police officer, before we pay a teacher, before we pay Vero.
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And I think we're in a fiscal crisis. And Tom
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has been... It's been on his watch that we're in
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this situation. And the comptroller has an obligation to make
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sure that we hold government accountable. We have crazy fraud
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and abuse in our system. Our Medicaid is one of
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the largest in the nation, $ 124 billion. 35% of the
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people in this state are on Medicaid. This is Tom's watch.
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And I think people are ready for No.
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I understand that. Joseph, I understand that. But I saw
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the debate and and he I thought his responsibility is
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just to control his responsibilities to make the most you
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can on return on investment for your for your portfolio.
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Well, look, he's got.
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Two major roles. The comptroller has two major roles. One
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is audit to make sure the government is being run
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efficiently and effectively and honest. I think he's failed that miserably.
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Last year, we only had nine cases being prosecuted on
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Medicaid fraud.
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Why?
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We have the largest budget in the nation on Medicaid.
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That doesn't sound realistic to me. That's the one thing.
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But in terms of returns, if you look at the
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pension funds, The pension fund, where he claims that last
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quarter the fund did really well, it did 6.2% return, which.
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Is not mediocre, by the way.
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But when you look at how the S & P did,
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when you look at how NASDAQ did, you know, NASDAQ
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performed 21% return. The S & P was 15% return.
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You know, the reality is the fund did not perform
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to where it should be, at the levels it should be.
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And for every dollar we pay out in pension benefits,
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which last year we paid about $ 17. 5 billion, 75 cents
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of that dollar comes in return. The rest of that
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money comes from taxpayers. So, look, he hasn't done a
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great job. I could do a better job. I think
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it's time for a change. Trump has been there for
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a long time. He's been furniture in Albany. We need
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somebody who's going to stand up for the taxpayers, and
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I'm that guy.
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Joseph Hernandez, thank you for coming on this Sunday morning,
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and good luck in what you do. We always wanted
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taxpayers to do a great job. Thank you so much.
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Thank you, John. I appreciate the opportunity. God bless.
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Cheers. Thank you for listening to the Catch Roundtable. We'll
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be right back right after this break. Welcome back to
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the Catch Roundtable. What is today is from the Department
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of Justice. The first assistant United States attorney, John Sarkone,
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from the Northern District of New York. John Sarkone, you
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had a great press conference on Friday afternoon, and you're
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trying to cut down on fraud going on in our country.
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Tell us about it.
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Yes, thank you, John, and thanks for having me on.
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It's always a pleasure to be with.
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You and your audience.
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We had the Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald came in
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from Washington, D.C. today to do this press conference with us.
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It is a stunning, stunning revelation of rampant fraud that
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was taking money away from impoverished people, from people in
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housing districts, from veterans, from homeless people, and into the
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tune of $ 13 million. And it spanned California, Georgia, Indiana, Maryland,
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North Carolina, Tennessee, New York, Texas, Wisconsin, Washington, Michigan, Massachusetts, Florida,
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and Ohio.
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And how were they doing it?
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They were stealing identities of people and applying for benefits
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under the federal programs, benefit plans. And they planned that
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they were transporting homeless people to shelters and transporting people
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from the housing districts and HUD to their doctor's appointments.
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And they weren't doing any of that. They were bilking
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the system. They did collect almost $ 2 million. Of the
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$ 13 million, many of the banks realized there was some
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scam going on and didn't release the funds. But they
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got away with it, $ 1. 9 million, and they spent it lavishly.
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Understood. And how much of this is going on in
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our country?
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John, it's going on everywhere.
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This is where.
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I call the revolving door of public money fraud. This
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has been going on since the prior administration when they
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let loose and we had the invasion that came in.
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There was no money for any of that. So it
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just became a free for all. I mean, look what's
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going on in Minnesota, California, here in New York. There's
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It's now we have a president and an attorney general
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who are determined to stop it.
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Understood. I understood that because is the state attorney general's
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not doing anything or is the local DA's not doing anything?
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Well, let's say this. If these two individuals, now convicted felons,
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if this case was referred to the state and one
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of them is a Colombian citizen, they will have likely
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fled to Colombia. We'll probably never see them again.
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All right.
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And we don't have that here in the federal system.
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But New York, with its no bail, is it's the
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revolving door of crime. That's what I call it here
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in New York. So I'm glad that, by the way,
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I have to credit the state comptroller, Tom DiNapoli, and
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his office and his team for referring this to us.
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And we're going to continue to do great work together.
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Well, John Sarkone, thank you for getting this thing done
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and reducing the fraud in our country. And we'll talk
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to you again real soon.
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Thank you, John.
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Always a pleasure.
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New York City Partnership. And Steve Phillip is the CEO.
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And Steve, we're all very concerned about what's going on
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in our city and our state. And give us an update.
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Well, it's been a busy week, to say the least.
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You know, earlier in this week, Morgan Stanley announced that
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they have 3,800 jobs scaling up in Texas and talking
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about Dallas. Every job that's not in New York City
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is obviously a lost opportunity for us. So that's pretty
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significant because we've seen in the last couple of months,
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you know, Citadel, Goldman, JP Morgan, Apollo, all talking about
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the attraction in Texas. So bad for New York. got
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to fix that. Also this week, we saw a huge
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gift to Miami from Ken Griffin from Citadel, $ 3 billion.
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And what I like to people is that when people
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have second headquarters or second offices, the philanthropy doesn't double.
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It gets shared between different places. So You know, when
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Ken Griffin, who had a presence in New York City
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and a presence in Chicago, goes to Miami and gives
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that money, it's a loss for us. And then, of course,
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we have some news around the DSA and some stuff
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that The Post reported.
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Understood. Now, I understand you spoke to the mayor the
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other day. There was concerns that you had and your
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members had that they're going to target certain executives with
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social media. And you had a good conversation, I understand,
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with the mayor.
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Yeah, I mean, look, the Post reported that there's a
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deliberate effort of the DSA, so the Democratic Socialists, to
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single out individual CEOs by name and start disparaging campaigns
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about them. And it sounded like a very extraordinary step
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in a negative way. especially when you think about the
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assassination of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. We're in an environment
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with a lot of mental illness. And, of course, there's
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more political violence. So I reached out to the mayor,
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to his political director, to his comms director, and we
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all connected. And they said it wasn't true. And so
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you take him at his word. And you stay vigilant
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and watchful, but you've got to take him at his
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word because nothing happened yet. Just the Post reported that
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that was his intention.
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Well, I'm happy that you got the truth out because, hey,
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some of us have to get the truth out versus
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just fake news and rumors.
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Yeah, I mean, look, I think that any time that
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you would single out an executive by name, it goes
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beyond the pale of disagreement about a policy. In many ways,
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you'd be inciting violence and actions that could be really
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harmful and scary. So, you know, I thought it was
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appropriate to reach out directly. And they said that there's
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no validity to that. So, you know, let's take them
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at his word.
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I agree with you. Anything else you want to tell
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all New Yorkers?
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No, I think it's been another busy week here. Every
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week is an eventful week. This one was particularly eventful.
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But we'll see what the new week brings.
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Well, we have elections coming up in a few weeks.
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And I guess the truth is, I don't know what
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the pulse of things are. But all I want is
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common sense in our city, in our state. And all
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I want is safety for our kids and our grandkids.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Thank you so much.
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Thanks.
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Calling in Bernadette Castro. She worked for Governor Pataki. for
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12 years. Well, Bernadette Castro, I still remember the day
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you were pulling out that Castro convertible.
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I love it, John. And I grew up with a
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lot of New Yorkers. And listen, I did work for
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Pataki for 12 years, day in and day out. And
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I know what a good governor looks like. Bruce Blakeman
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will be that kind of governor. We need that desperately.
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He knows that pocketbooks are hurting. Budgets are hurting. He's
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going to lower utility bills. What he did in Nassau County,
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as county exec for five years, he's in year five,
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he not only didn't raise taxes, he killed $ 150 million
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of planned new taxes. He killed them. You know, this
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is a governor who gets it. You know, of course he's,
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you know, for women's rights. You know, he's a moderate Republican.
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He's pro-choice. He's fiscally conservative, but he's socially inclusive. He's
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exactly the kind of governor Pataki was. He will be that.
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And we need that desperately. He believes in law enforcement.
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He hired more cops in Nassau County.
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Why?
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Because he was on the Port Authority board when we
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were attacked on 9-11. All right? He's ready to be governor.
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You know, I just want people to do one thing
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for me. Get to the polls.
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Take other people.
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He's going to win this race. because of unlikely voters
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getting their butts out of the House and going to
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the polls.
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So, Bernadette Castro, you're looking at Bruce Blakeman as another
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George Pataki, and George Pataki did a great job for
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12 years.
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He was a moderate Republican. He was perfect.
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He did so much for so many different entities in
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New York, whether it was the environment, whether it was
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law enforcement, and he was governor during 9-11.
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And you did a great job taking care of the
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parks departments for 12 years.
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Right, because I had the support of a green Republican,
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which Bruce Blakeman is. But let me tell you something
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about early voting. Get out and early vote and then
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start taking friends, senior citizens, people to vote. If we
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get out the vote, Blakeman's going to win this thing.
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We're not going to win it by us talking about it.
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We're going to win it by getting out starting October 24th,
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a Saturday. You can early vote. So there's no excuse.
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You've got eight days to vote. And that's really important.
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What has he done for women, girls' sports, women's sports
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in Nassau County? What he said is if you're going
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to compete on a Nassau County athletic field or facility
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in a girls' or women's sports, you have to be
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born a female. No transgender. I have a daughter and
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granddaughters that played ice hockey in college. They would never
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have been able to compete against transgender players. So what
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he did for women's sports, he will continue that fight.
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In addition, he founded the first breast cancer resource center
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in Nassau County. So this is a governor who gets
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the economy. He gets the rights of women, the rights
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of people that want to say, I don't want to
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pay these utility bills. I don't want to move to
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Florida when I retire. I want to stay near my grandchildren.
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Bruce Blakeman gets it. So, John, I'm telling you, I'm
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working hard for him. And everyone listening, you don't have
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to give big money. Little money is fine, but you
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need to vote.
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And what's the website to go to on that?
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It's just Blakeman for New York, Blakeman for governor. You
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can Google anything you want with Bruce Blakeman's name and
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you'll get to the website and you'll be able to
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donate and you'll be able to read about his policies,
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which you're going to love. So this is a guy
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with a good track record. I have known him for
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decades as a person and I have been impressed. And
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Governor Pataki has endorsed him. I really hope your listeners
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will just motivate themselves, give a little if they can,
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for sure get out and vote. Take others to vote.
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Take two people to the polls one day. Take another
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one another day.
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You've got eight days.
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Understood. Bernadette Castro, Women for Black Lives Matter. thank you
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for coming on, and we'll catch up with you again
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real soon. Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Bye-bye.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you for listening to the Catch Roundtable.
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We'll be right back right after this break. Welcome back
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to the Catch Roundtable.
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We'll be right back.
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Well, this is our good friend, Steve Cates, also known
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as Dr. Sky. He's on every Friday night of Saturday
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morning from 12 midnight to 2 and Saturday night, Sunday
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morning from 12 to 2. Well, Steve Cates, tell us
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what's going on in outer space.
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Well, good morning, John, and to the listeners, happy October.
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One big news story, John, that starts our conversation on
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Sunday is strange signals coming from a star some 69
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light years away. And what's so unusual about this, John,
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is that we have never detected this particular story. And
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what is the story? We know now there are about 6,000 exoplanets.
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These are planets discovered about other stars. And one in particular,
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it's a constellation called Pictoris in the southern hemisphere. The
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star Beta Pictoris is has a strange exoplanet, how creative,
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Beta Pictoris B. And radio astronomers, John, have detected some
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sort of radio transmission coming from it. What makes it unusual?
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No exoplanet has ever sent radio signals. So the astronomers
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put their thinking caps on, and they believe that the
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causation of this, like Jupiter, like the Earth, we have
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auroras that are created by powerful radiation storms. And they
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simply think, may not be aliens per se, obviously, but
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that out there in the distant universe, 69 light years away,
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we're first detecting a tiny little object that far away,
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and we separated the star's energy from that of the planet.
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I give kudos to the astronomers who've been able to
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slice the pie, as they say, and detect these strange signals.
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It's amazing.
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Why all of a sudden they come up with these strange...
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I mean, it's... Is there a reason? Who did it?
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NASA did it? Who did it?
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No, it's actually a radio telescope, John, in South Africa.
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And they have 64 of these big, gigantic dishes. You know,
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the days when people, well, some still do depend on
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their satellite transmissions, but from the ground to space. What
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makes this unusual, and I find it very, very strange,
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is that when we look at a star that far away,
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and that we're now able to determine that it's not
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the star, so precision, it's like looking under the microscope,
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We've detected these strange signals, but obviously many people believe
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that it could be extraterrestrial life. But in this case,
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the Great Mirror Telescope, they call it in South Africa,
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has done something I find very, very unusual, John. So
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it means that many of these planets that are bound
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out in the solar system and out into the universe,
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they may also have similarities to even closer planets. The
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beat goes on. The discovery is interesting.
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Understood.
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We talk about something else, John. This is fascinating. On
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this date, 69 years ago, we began the space program. Now,
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I was just a one-year-old running around, I guess, in Jamaica,
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New York, and this was the Sputnik launch. But let's
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talk about one of the great things that just happened
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last week. SpaceX launched Starship 14. This is the most
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powerful rocket, John, in the entire world, 16 million pounds
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of thrust. This time, they wanted to put the spacecraft
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on top which is the craft that hopefully will go
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to the moon and Mars, to go into orbit around
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the Earth. It's a very difficult thing to do. One
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of the engines on the Starship failed, so they didn't
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get to do 10 orbits. But they deployed, get a
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look at this, brand-new, much larger Starlink satellites called V3s.
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So they succeeded in that, but they have a long
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way to go, John. I think you would agree, before
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we can now determine that we can send astronauts on
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that particular craft. This is the 14th time that they've
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launched it. Great success that they've had. But all these
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things in space can be very dangerous, and they simply
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take a lot.
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So it's the 14th time. How many cases did they
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have a problem?
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Well, they had engine problem on the Starship rocket. So
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they were going to orbit 10 times, as I said,
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the Earth. But no, they decided they would shorten the mission.
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But the goal was to get that spacecraft into orbit.
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And they released, as I said, these new satellites. Starship
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14 is a great success. It's amazing, John. Just think
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about 50 years ago when we started to talk about
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the beginning of the space program 69 years ago. We
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still have a long way to go. And obviously, let's
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not rush landing on the moon and going to Mars
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until we can perfect this particular spacecraft. But they have
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a long.
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Way to go before we go to warp speed. I understand.
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Absolutely, John. And speaking of that, here's something interesting in
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my mind. The mystery of the week. What is the
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Stirling engine? And why is it called by some the
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Star Drive? This is amazing. In 1816, a British clergyman,
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Robert Stirling, developed this engine called the closed cycle external
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combustion engine. Sounds like a lot of words. What is it?
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It's a fixed amount of gas which expands when hot
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and contracts when cold and pushes a piston, much different
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than this type of gas engines that we use today.
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And it's now used, John, on some nuclear submarines around
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the world. And this technology that NASA is working on
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and other space agencies is They're going to deploy the
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Sterling engine concept to rocket propulsion, nuclear rocket propulsion, and
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maybe then, John, we'll get closer to the warp drive
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concept that we watch and see on so many science
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fiction shows. And, John, we wish everybody the best for
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a happy Sunday. Always remind them to keep their eyes
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to the skies and appreciate them tuning in to the Dr.
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Sky experience, as you mentioned at the top of this broadcast.
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Thank you so much, and we'll catch up again real soon.
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Thank you, Joe.
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The Cats Roundtable.
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With us today is Christine Hanlon, the New Jersey GOP chair. Well, Christine,
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so many things are happening in New Jersey. You had
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the resignation of your lieutenant governor. Would you give us
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an update what the heck is going on?
833
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Yes, it's quite unbelievable that we already have a major
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failure of the Sherrill administration with the resignation of our governor.
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Lieutenant Governor, who just took office not that long ago,
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this is a debacle, one of many messes that has
837
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been going on in the Sherrill administration, and this is
838
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the latest example.
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There was rumors that he mishandled certain things. Then there's
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other rumors that they didn't want him around because he
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had certain allegations that he was making. Do you know
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anything about any of that?
843
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Yeah, I mean, this has been really lately looking like
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a he said, she said. We got wind a couple
845
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of weeks ago. It was reported in the New Jersey
846
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Globe that there was a month-long investigation behind closed doors,
847
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hidden from the public, of the lieutenant governor for certain
848
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ethics violations and inappropriate behavior with women. That was being
849
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investigated by the administration. This is all being done in secret.
850
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The public was not aware. And while this was going on,
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the governor left the state to go campaign for democratic
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congressional candidates all over the country. And here we had
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somebody who was under investigation without the public being aware
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without people in the workplace being aware. of allegations of
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misconduct toward women and these ethics type violations. Once it
856
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was leaked to the public, all of a sudden things changed.
857
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You know, the governor was like, oh, I'm going to
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take this seriously and I'm not going to travel. But meanwhile,
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for months she was traveling and leaving the lieutenant governor
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in charge. He has been fighting these accusations saying, you know,
861
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it's not accurate. But the other day she said, oh, hey,
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we have this court and I want you to resign. Now,
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mind you, the NJGOP two weeks ago called on him
864
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to resign. And then I guess the governor followed suit
865
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just the other day, demanding that he resign. And within
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24 hours, even though he said he wasn't going to resign,
867
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he then resigned last Friday.
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Are you saying that the New Jersey GOP was calling
869
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on him to resign, too?
870
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We did several weeks ago, as soon as we found
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out about the investigation and the allegation. Now, mind you,
872
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this whole thing was a failure of the governor's office because,
873
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you know, they picked him as the candidate, perhaps didn't
874
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vet adequately enough. But once we heard the seriousness of
875
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the allegations, we called on him to resign and The
876
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governor at that time was like, I can't speak about
877
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ongoing investigations, etc. And then two weeks later, she then
878
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asked him to resign.
879
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What else is happening in New Jersey? Anything else? Anything good?
880
00:49:02.909 --> 00:49:06.650
Well, we are fighting really hard to keep control of Congress,
881
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as you know. We have some really big races here
882
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in New Jersey. Biggest race is congressional district seven, which
883
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is Congressman Tom King Jr. We are fighting to keep
884
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that seat in Republican hands. The road to keeping control
885
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in Congress runs right through Congressional District 7 in New Jersey.
886
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I know there's some really important races in New York
887
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that we're fighting to keep our Republican congressional members in office.
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And we're doing that here, too, in New Jersey. It's
889
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an important election cycle. We need everyone to get out
890
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and vote, keep Tom King Jr. in office. He's a
891
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great congressman, really has served his district well, and we
892
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are fighting and putting a lot of resources into that
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race to make sure we keep that seat.
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Thank you so much for coming on this Sunday morning.
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Thanks for having me.
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This is John Terry to tell us how the markets
897
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have done and what they're going to do. What do
898
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we have to look forward to? John Terry, give us
899
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a report.
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Well, you know, Joel, it's really funny because actually the
901
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markets were on a bit of a wild ride last week.
902
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But if you look at the NASDAQ and the S
903
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& P 500, even if they're down, they're actually not
904
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that far away from their all-time highs.
905
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Of course, the big.
906
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Story of last week came on Friday when we had
907
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the government jobs report for the month of September, the
908
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so-called non-farms. Only 29,000 jobs added in the month of September.
909
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Not the 90,000 economists have been expecting. Unemployment rate up
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to 4.2% from 4.1%. Average hourly earnings up just one-tenth
911
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of 1%. Now, the thing is, the markets rose on
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that news because when you combine it with other data
913
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that's been coming in, it's all looking pretty good when
914
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it comes to the next Fed meeting. For example, yesterday,
915
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the weekly jobless, or rather on Thursday, the weekly jobless numbers,
916
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they came in about 1,000 lower than had been anticipated.
917
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And PCE, which is the Fed's preferred measure of inflation,
918
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personal consumption, and expenditure, the core, which you get when
919
00:51:08.460 --> 00:51:11.360
you take out food and energy of that, was 3%.
920
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And all of this takes the pressure off the Fed
921
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to raise rates when they meet again on the 27th
922
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and the 28th of this month. Company news this week,
923
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a couple of stories that really stood out to me.
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The Walt Disney Company cutting hundreds of jobs at its
925
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TV stations, its network, and I think at ESPN as well.
926
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And what's interesting about this is that Disney makes regular
927
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cuts to its television divisions as well and other divisions.
928
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They've been laying off a lot of people in recent history.
929
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The Disney shares were more or less unchanged, but they
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00:51:38.380 --> 00:51:40.840
were up a bit. And then Mattel, the giant toy
931
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company in California responsible for Barbie and American Girl and
932
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Hot Wheels. It was said by the Wall Street Journal
933
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midweek that Mattel is the subject of a takeover bid
934
00:51:50.019 --> 00:51:53.730
by authentic brands. Well, Mattel stock rose by about 18
935
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to 20 percent on this news. But what's interesting to
936
00:51:56.110 --> 00:51:59.150
me is authentic brands. They don't really make anything. What
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00:51:59.170 --> 00:52:02.030
they do is they go around buying premium brands. And
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I thought it might interest you to know that among
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the brands, they have about 50 of them. Among the
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brands that they own these days, the name and therefore
941
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everything about Elvis Presley. And Marilyn Monroe. The crypto story
942
00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:15.389
of the week was that the man that wrote the
943
00:52:15.409 --> 00:52:17.469
Clarity Act, which failed in the Senate a couple of
944
00:52:17.510 --> 00:52:19.429
weeks ago, had a victory this week because he wrote
945
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a new bill and it's passed. They're going to scrap
946
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the penny. That's the one cent, of course. They're going
947
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to allow retailers to round up bills, particularly in restaurants,
948
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by five cents. This gets around a legal problem that
949
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has been looming. And they're also putting cheaper materials into
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the nickel, the five cent in future, to make it
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cheaper to make those. It has passed the Senate now.
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It will go to President Trump for signing. And in
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the week ahead, quite a quiet week coming up. We've
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got third quarter earnings getting underway, though. At the end
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of the week, we'll hear from PepsiCo, based in New
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York State, and Delta Airlines, based in Georgia. And the
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big bank earnings start a week on Tuesday, the 13th
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of October, with J.P.
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Morgan.
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John. pretty fast. I mean, some of the bank stocks
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are way down. Bank of America is way down. And,
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you know, they should all be doing well.
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Well, the bank earnings usually kick off the quarterly earnings season.
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It's usually the first big news of it. So we'll
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see what happens when we get to that in just
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over a week's time, John.
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Thank you so much. And we'll catch up with you
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again real soon.
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Yep.
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See you next Sunday. Thank you so much.
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Bye.
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