Let's Go There

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You're listening to, But I Won't Do That, an irreverent dive into the lyrics, music, and videos of some of our favorite songs.
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Okay.
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Okay, here we are.
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Summer.
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Cheers.
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Summer's a downtime, and in entertainment, you know, you know, there's not much happening.
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We thought we'd jump in here at the end of July with a I know it's almost August.
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No, don't say that.
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Teachers, that's the worst thing.
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Teachers don't want to hear that.
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Oh, okay.
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Well.
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I this summer.
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Yeah.
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For some reason I'm glad the summer's over.
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This is not even August yet.
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I know, but I'm ready for to dig out my sweaters.
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Okay, calm down.
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Well, you just had you you just, you know, had a huge week.
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Your company's fashion week.
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Yeah, we So you you had like one of your biggest weeks of the year.
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Yeah.
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And then we came to stay with my mom post stroke, and she's doing uh very well.
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She's doing very well.
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Yes.
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Yeah, so you know, we're here in this other bedroom.
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It's very like sort of elderly coded.
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It is.
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Like we could be like we could be like in an economy motel based on that background.
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It's she lives independent, but it could be uh you know, an old folks home.
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Yeah.
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We should have put flowers in the background.
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Yeah, I know.
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I put those little books there just so there was a little something back there.
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Yeah.
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Uh chairs were drinking um a favorite beer of mine, Pliny the Elder.
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It's a good one.
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It is so good.
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I actually prefer that one with the little flowers on it that you got that's by the same people.
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Happy hops.
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Oh, that was so good.
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The the the cover story in this month's National Geographic is about Mount Vesuvius, the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in in Roman times.
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And that's actually where Pliny the Elder, he was a naval commander, and he he came across the bay when it erupted.
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He burned ships across the bay when it was erupted to try to evacuate people, and he died from the fumes from the volcano.
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But his son, Pliny the Younger, goes on to be a famous Roman historian.
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He's a firsthand witness to the eruption.
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He wrote about it.
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That's how we know so much about it, because Pliny the Younger witnessed and wrote it down.
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Pliny the younger write about his father, Pliny the Elder.
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I think so.
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We should hope so.
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Anyway, so cheers to Pliny.
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Pliny trying to rescue.
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What a good guy.
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My mom's covering her plants because it's 111.
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It is so hot here.
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She lives in Palm Desert, so Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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For context.
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She lives in Palm Desert and has been over 110 every day we've been here.
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We're leaving tomorrow, but later this week it's supposed to be 117.
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Which is I don't I don't know if at some point it doesn't do your notice.
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I don't know, but I think you do.
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Because when we go for oh, like you went running this morning when I went walking, how hot do you think it was then?
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It was probably push a 90.
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It just feels so much cooler.
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It's like oh cooler.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean it's still hot, but you like really feel like this is not bad.
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And then if you go outside now it's probably not that bad right now, but when it gets to be 111, it's bad.
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Yeah, it's bad.
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Um so Pliny the Elder from Roman Times.
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Speaking of antiquity, we saw the uh Odyssey yesterday.
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Oh right.
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Um and uh it was my second time seeing it.
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I really liked it.
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Becky, maybe not as much, but I mean it's just so long.
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It's long.
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It's lovely.
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It's like long in the way that you feel like it's indulgently long.
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I feel like there's parts that could have been cut, but if you took all the time to making people climb up this mountain and do all this stuff, you better get that in the shot.
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Yeah.
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I it's it it's just that the the Odyssey's very so long.
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And so Nolan had to pick like what parts he wanted to do, and I don't see how you could tell the story, unless you made it two movies.
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I guess you know, when you say the word Odyssey, you just sort of picture something long and cumbersome.
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So yeah.
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It was actually so the uh Odyssey comes from Odysseus, first used in like the 1800s.
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Was the first time the word Odyssey was ever used.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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A journey, an epic journey.
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Yeah.
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All right, well, good on you, 1800s, for creating a new artist.
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And in the movie, you know, one of the characters is named Mentor.
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That's where we get the word from.
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He's Telemachus's uh mentor.
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Because his name is Mentor.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's cool.
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Yeah, I mean, I love etymology.
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So anything else?
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Cyclops.
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Oh, poor Polythemus.
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Interesting.
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I mean, I do think that's a it's fascinating how Nolan depicted it, not so much like a guy with one eye, but just a creature that's like deformed, and that's why he has one eye.
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Not that he's like a breed of like or there's like a species of cyclops.
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Right.
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But there's just this one guy that is apparently a bit deformed.
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And a giant happens to look like the guy sloths from Goonies.
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Anyway, I'm sure Christopher Nolan could just have a lot of negative things to say about our podcast, too.
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You loved it though.
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No, no, I'm not, yeah.
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I I I thought I thought it was great.
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I mean, I just love that Nolan, that there's just this people out there just doing things like this, and you know, and using very little CGI.
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I love that about it.
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I mean, I do love that.
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Well, you know, he filmed in like eight countries.
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Less AI, less you know, CGI, all of much more human touch, which is what's happening in fashion right now, too.
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Yeah, there's a craving.
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Yeah, for like real work, real like let's see a crowd of people that's really a crowd, not like a CGI crowd.
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Right.
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Let's give me natural fibers, give me all these things.
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I want cotton.
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It's just the question of is that sentiment strong enough to withstand the crush of technology, you know, that we're being fed every day.
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Not even technology, uh synthetic.
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But that's gonna be the distinct the distinguisher, like probably between quality and lesser goods, like even in the movie industry, like natural fibers, wool, cotton, things that withstand the test of time for certain reasons, the fibers hold up better, all these things in the same way.
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Like, and they breathe.
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Like breathability is so important, but in like when you're looking at a crowd and like now you can even tell backgrounds are fake in like television shows and commercials.
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Yeah, that's bad.
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You know what I mean?
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So it's like getting those it's slop.
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It's like Ruby would call it like AI slop, you know?
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It's like yeah, that's or everyone, I guess.
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Yeah, that's that's the term that's going around.
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I think we I think in terms of cinema, it's interesting because if we I think we probably peaked with shitty AI, CGI with probably wicked.
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I think wicked was when people sort of were like, how like is there anything real about this movie?
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And then I just thought that no one's gone the other way.
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Like it's this epic where it's really for the most part like real.
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Yeah.
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And it's it's it's a cool contrast to know, like, no, you don't have to make big budget movies just using green screens.
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Yeah, like Marvel.
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Ugh.
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This is what might makes me hate Marvel comics, like the movement of every earth cracking, shaking, like every human being like just freezing.
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Like, come on, everything is good, no one reacts that way.
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Like, it doesn't have humanity down, right?
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You don't know us, AI.
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Yeah, that's pretty damn sure.
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So, so in in the movie, you know, Odysseus is called by Agamemnon to go fight in the Trojan War.
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Sorry, this is not an episode about this movie, we're about to get off it, but you know, because the movie it's it's the Odyssey, but it actually also taps a lot into the Iliad, which is the story of the Trojan War, and they have an amazing, amazing sequence with the horse, the Trojan horse.
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It's so cool.
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But um, he's called by Agamemnon to go fight in this war, and he he basically can't say no.
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He's the Odysseus is the king of Ithaca.
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But I'm thinking, what if in that moment when he's called upon by Agamemnon, he'd walked out on the balcony of his palace in in Ithaca, and he had just said, When dreaming, I'm guided to another world, time and time again.
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At sunrise, I fight to stay asleep, because I don't want to leave the comfort of this place.
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And then he stared out towards Troy.
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So let's go there.
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Let's make our escape.
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Come on, let's go there.
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Let's ask, can we stay?
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Oh It would it would kind of fit.
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I'm reading the first verse of today's song, and it strikes me if the lyrics are so dumb, but it strikes me you could just kind of plug it into a fantasy or or or adventure movie.
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It's sort of yes, but not something so good.
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I mean, I feel like this needs to be in like you know so I so I trained your dragon.
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Oh, how to train a dragon.
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Well, no, because how it's like it's so what it's like the next like cheap iteration of uh, you know, something.
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But also let's ask, can we stay?
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I always thought it was saying, It's us, can we stay?
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Yeah, no, he we we gotta talk about his voice and and and his singing style and how you can rarely tell what the hell he's actually saying.
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Today we're talking about Creed.
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Creed.
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My God, can we even it's you know, we've we've they've come into our orbit.
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Orbit, they've come into our discussion a few times.
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We've never actually taken on Creed.
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Um, and uh you know, we want to talk today about Hire, which was sort of their breakthrough hit, um, and featuring one of the worst slash best videos you've ever seen.
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Yeah, you guys should go watch it right now.
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Yeah, it's so good to bag on.
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If you want to, if you really want to like get into this conversation, pause us, go watch Hire by Creed on YouTube, and uh and it and in the first 30 seconds you're gonna be like, oh my god, and all I can tell you is just wait.
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Let's talk about Creed.
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Yeah, let's talk about Creed.
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Creed.
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Um I mean, what do you when you think of Creed, what do you, what comes to mind?
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Well, like, okay, ballad rock, but also like um they were so big in this time, but they went like so high, higher that they just almost crashed so hard because in my recollection, like when they came out, I remember really sort of loving them.
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Like I can get behind a ballad, you know.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Um, and then it was just like the ubiquitous overplayed, obviously.
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And then also the band seemed to take themselves so seriously.
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And then the the then there came along this whole like like for for arms wide open, it's kind of like everyone knew that Scott Staff, Staff, wrote this about his son.
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Like the fact that I kind of know his name, like that we kind of knew like this singer's name, he was so in the like zeitgeist.
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He was just you know, and he more than the band, really, because then he was known for like like recommitting to his wife and or girlfriend or whatever who he had the baby with.
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There's just so much like in the in the tabloid world, yeah, um, about him.
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And so then it's like, and then he like foul hard, like alcoholism and everything.
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Like, I don't know, it would be hard to have this kind of fame because they were huge, right?
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Yeah, I mean, I think he touched on so many things about Creed, like the earnestness, the self-seriousness was definitely, I think, part of their downfall.
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Yeah.
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I I I equate them as being like sort of the quintessential critics hated them, fans loved them.
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Yeah.
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They're like, like, I don't think any of their albums received any cred from critics, but they're hugely selling out.
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They're also an a band that benefits from the final days of the dominance of the CD, right?
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CD sales peak in 2001-ish.
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That's their heyday, right?
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They're able to sell massive amounts of of albums at a time when people were forking over 14, 15, 16 for a CD.
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So kicking off the description of them from Wikipedia, Creed is an American rock band formed in Tallahassee, Florida in 1994.
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Florida, man from Florida.
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Creed was prominent in the post-grunge movie.
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Post-grunge, okay.
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So this is that sort of mix of bands that are.
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Well, it's like post-Metallica too.
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Like, when is Metallica in this?
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Like, because there's all these But Metallica's.
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No, they're legit, but I'm just saying they're before all this.
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Yeah.
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But I feel like they're on, they're like hanging on to the very last, like the tailpipe of that car or something.
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Yeah.
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Um Creed scored three consecutive multi-platinum albums.
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Human Clay from 1999, which is this the album we're talking about today.
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The band's second studio album received 11 times platinum certification.
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Um I mean, that sounds pretty hard to achieve.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Um, and yeah, the band is the band's made up of predominantly three or four members, but the most um memorable is Scott Stapp, the lead singer, the earnest lead singer.
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Um, here's a little description of Scott Stapp that I thought you could resonate with.
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Okay.
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Before we go to the break and start talking about hire.
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Creed started off in Tallahassee in the bar circuit in 1994.
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This is just from a uh a website I found.
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The time when the actual grunge giants were at their peak.
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Scott Stabb grew up in a strict Pentecostal family in Orlando, and rock and roll wasn't allowed in his house at all.
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Stabb struggled with all the restrictions that his family placed on him.
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When he snuck a copy of Def Leopard's Pyromania into the house, his parents found it and took it away.
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Yeah, my mom wanted to bring Brad's records to a record burning at our church.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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No, yeah, I know.
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That's uh it's kind of it's kind of the apropos of us being at your mom's house because when I read that, I thought, okay, this sounds like the stories I've heard from Becky.
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Totally.
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But these parents just took it away.
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Like, my mom was prepared to go and grab Brad's albums and take them.
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Like, I thought I think she would have thought that they would scream when you burn them.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Like what was it?
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The Pentecost, the holy Ark of the Covenant and Raiders of the Lost.
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Exactly.
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Don't look, yeah.
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If you look at it, they're coming out after you.
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Yeah.
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So we're we'll talk a bit about the Christianity that influences the band as well.
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All right.
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Let's take a break.
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When we come back, higher by creed, and maybe the maybe the apex of little man sings like this.
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There's been a lot of them.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I can't wait to go over that list.
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Yeah.
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All right, we'll be right back.
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We are back.
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Um, this from uh New York Times article in 2002.
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They're writing about uh Creed's third album.
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Um, so after uh what we're talking about today.
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But uh this critic, their their main critic, map uh music critic, wrote, Early 1990s grunge sustained an unlikely balance of self-doubt and roaring guitars for a few years, but its aftermath is current mainstream rock full of tattooed young men groaning about how families and girlfriends let them down.
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Scott Stapp of Creed still testifies to his many burdens, but he sees beyond them.
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With its religious convictions, Creed nullifies both the ambivalence of grunge and the muscle-bound self-pity of more recent rock.
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Muscle-bound self-pity.
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Yeah, I'm thinking like I think when I think of that, I think of like, I don't like muscle-bound, but there's a bit of like like matchbox 20 or like that sort of genre with these guys just constantly whining, but using like grunge guitars and the like.
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But I I think of rock being harder than like matchbox 20 is it it seems so pop to me.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Like, there's just that whole like all those people that came post-grunge, like who's ever last and ever clear and clear and uh vertical horizon.
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And we even talked about this.
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Oh, fuel, fuel, yeah, yes, all those.
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Okay, yeah, that's it.
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Like filter, yeah, yeah.
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But even like we talked about this with like Sugar Ray, like Sugar Ray is very pop, but they but all these different forms that came after Grunge.
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Overarching theme is rock, right?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Um, so the band the band scores big with its first album, but really scores big with its second album, Human Clay.
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Uh yeah, because so isn't um Arms Wide Open on Human Clay.
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Yeah, it's on Human Clay.
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So this was released in uh September of 1999.
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99, almost 2000.
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Yeah, yeah, we're right, we're right at the edge there.
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And Hire um was released as the first single in August.
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The song became the band's breakthrough hit as it was their first song to reach the top 10 on the US Billboard Hot 100, peaking at number seven.
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Higher also became the band's second chart-topping hit on the rock on rock radio, uh, and just becomes generally like a huge hit, stays on the charts for a really long time.
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Um I mean, you still hear it.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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You could be somewhere.
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I bet you there's like an elevator version in this now.
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So Benny when you hear these elevator songs.
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I mean, the the the sound is very like like this, just one description of sales from the New York Times that I think applies very much to this song and to you know their biggest hits.
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Creed learned one Led Zeppelin trick particularly well, starting with just finger-picked guitar, then having the full band crash in after a verse or two.
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It used that method in song after song with each crescendo drawing cheers by arena rock reflex.
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Yeah.
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He just had that sort of like do, do, do, do, doo, whatever, and then it's like stairway to heaven.
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Yeah, this big guitar coming in.
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Yeah.
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Scott Stapp's voice.
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We gotta talk about Scott Stapp's voice.
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Yeah, it's almost like, you know how everyone can do like a Kermit or a Fozzie, you know, he almost has a Fozzie bear rock voice.
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Is that it?
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Yeah, it's kind of like, let me take you higher.
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What do you think it is?
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Oh, I just think it's like it's just it's just 1990s guy, like Allison Chains.
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I mean, Eddie Vedder being like the best example.
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But like, you know, Stone Temple pilots, they're all just sort of like like Yell singing.
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Yell singing, kind of I mean, this is this is I'm not to discredit Eddie Vedder because he's got an amazing voice, but I think a lot of people want that voice.
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But just this sort of like I've just reaching for I love Scott Wyland too though.
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Scott Wyland, yeah.
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Uh uh I mean I kind of think a lot of those guys have good voices, but Scott Stapp's voice sounds a lot more Muppet to me somehow.
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I don't know.
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Yeah um less Yeah guttural in a way or something like Eddie Vedder has a really pretty voice.
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Yeah, he's an amazing voice.
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You know, but is it just that it sounds more authentic?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Like I was I I I found this Reddit thread that was like bands with most recognizable voices, right?
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Well, maybe that's a good thing.
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And somewhere down the line, um, someone wrote Pearl Jam, to which someone responded, Maybe it's just because I didn't grow up listening to Pearl Jam, but I sometimes confuse the singer's voice with creed.
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Please don't murder me.
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And people responding, boo.
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I like this one though.
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The trick is to tell them apart is that Eddie Vedder doesn't inject an R sound into every word.
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He just has a naturally deep voice.
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The Rrr.
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Yeah.
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It's like he constantly is trying to make an R.
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That's a great way of putting it.
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It's the pirate song.
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It's like the pirate voice.
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Rrr.
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What day are you going to have a party?
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Like, you know.
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Yeah.
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And someone else wrote, I mean, the Creed guy is pretty much doing an Eddie Vetter impression, so I get it.
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And it does, it does sound a bit like that.
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Like he's just really reaching for that that sound.
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No, there was no critics that like them, but it's still like um it's just I mean, it's something to be said for like have they stood this test of time though?
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Like, what are they doing now?
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I'm so curious.
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Yeah, well let's get to let's get to them.
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But also, like, it can all the critic the crowds be wrong?
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Like, if everyone, if there's they're writing some music that really touches people.
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Yeah, I mean, people were super into it.
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Arena rock.
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I mean, I think we talked about this with journey.
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There's a power to being like in a big space with people singing along and and Creed taps into that.
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Yeah, because they're like like I was telling you, Arms Wide Open is so easy.
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Everyone kind of knows the lyrics to that song.
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Once you all know the lyrics to a song because it's you know played on the radio.
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Yeah.
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But you but stop, it's hard to tell what the lyrics are.
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You can't understand it.
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Not in Arms Wide Open, though.
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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Higher is a little more like I made up my own words.
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Yeah.
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I could be wrong.
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Maybe if I said what I think the lyrics were versus what they really are.
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You could call me out on stuff, I'm sure.
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But I do have an idea that I know more.
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One critic wrote: millions of people have mockingly imitated Stapp's vocals over the years, but nobody's ever approached the man's own absurdist backwoods hauler.
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He sounds like he can't possibly be serious, and yet he's so serious, it's too much.
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And I think that is kind of like nickelback a bit too.
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The downfall is that you sound kind of ridiculous, and you really seem to take yourself very seriously.
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Yeah.
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The earnestness of being earnest.
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Like it's like we are always finding ourselves ripping on just don't be too earnest ever.
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Like you just can't.
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You need to have it.
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It's it's interesting, like the line between being self-aware and having a sense of humor about yourself.
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I mean, I think you say the same about Maroon 5.
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I mean, Maroon 5 just always feels like a band that thinks it's so important.
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And it's like I know Can you guys just step back a second and just have a little bit more?
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I think they do though.
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I think they don't take their selves themselves as seriously as you think they do, because they their videos are like so tongue-in-cheek.
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A lot of their videos.
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Really?
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Funny.
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Oh, maybe now they are.
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I haven't watched a maroon five video in a long time.
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The early videos were definitely not.
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It's just like what's walking around staring at the wedding one?
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Yeah, when they did all the weddings, they crashed all the weddings.
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I don't know.
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I think they're anyway.
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Okay, we can agree to disagree.
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Well, we gotta do maroon five another time.
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I think they're a lot cheekier than you think they are.
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But it's not, it's not real cheek.
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It's not real cheek.
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It's like it's it's the kind of cheek when you see like a really famous egomaniacal athlete do an ad that's funny.
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Oh, can you believe?
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Can you believe how funny LeBron James is?
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No, he's just fucking doing this because he's he knows he needs to like put this in his bag of tricks.
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:17.119
Like, like it's it's it it it's the whole thing is like feels so contrived because they're trying to be funny.
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And it's like, you're just doing this because your PR person told you this would be a good thing to have.
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Like, it's not real wit or humor.
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That's what I think with Maroon.
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That's what I think with Maroon 5.
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It feels so inauthentic.
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Like someone told them, do something that feels funny or or feels clever.
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You know, and Adam Levine's sitting there, like, you know, checking his jawline for the 17th time that day, and he's like, Yeah, yeah, cool, sign us up for that.
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:56.240
Like, you know, just so like all right, but the time when they were on Center at Live as the musical band, they were also in a skit, and I thought, I don't know.
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Anyway, we can move on.
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I could be wrong.
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I could be wrong about that.
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We haven't done our five piece yet.
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Okay, well the lyrics or the uh the the the chorus.
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Can you take me higher to a place where blind men see?
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Can you take me higher to a place with golden streets and golden showers?
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There's so many of these words that I've never heard.
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Like, although I would like our world to change, it helps me to appreciate those nights and those dreams.
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But my friend, you know, it's like, oh, when does it even say that?
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I'd sacrifice all those nights if I could make the earth and my dreams the same.
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I mean, what the fuck is this song about?
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If I could make the earth and my dreams the same.
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The only differences.
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I mean, what is this song about?
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To let love replace all our hate.
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I think it's it's um an optimistic ode to the possibility of heaven.
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Okay.
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I could see that.
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Everyone's going to this youth church youth church service.
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I've been to some of those.
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You've been to many, I'm sure.
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And it was one of these, you know, like where they had a full-on rock band, just lights and all this stuff.
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But when when I we got there, they were um passing.
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They're they're playing music, you know, as you come in and sit down.
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And and one of the songs they play is If I ever lose my faith in you by sting.
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Oh.
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.599
That's like kind of playing as people are getting seated.
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And in that moment, I was like, oh yeah.
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:49.599
I mean, there's a certain genius to having a song that could be both like a radio hit and but also be used in like a church.
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You know, and then and to me, these lyrics are sort of like that, where I don't know what this song's about, but if you're like someone who's Christian, as I guess Scott Stout was, but like it's not but it's not so overtly Christian as to turn people off.
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The lyrics are this sort of like eyes towards heaven.
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Yeah.
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That could be I mean, but l to let love replace all of our hate, let's go there.
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:34.000
It's like it's this um sort of pining for um a utopia um of maybe a heaven on earth, you know, that's also probably impossible to achieve.
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Yeah.
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Especially with the alcohol available to us and drugs and women and that's true, yeah.
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If you think of it from like a rock star point of view, they're getting all those things.
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There's so much, like so being raised very Pentecostal Christian, just Christian in general, there's so much in the Bible, uh like even like in the New Testament about like Jesus being tested by the devil 40 days in Gethsemane, like where the devil's like, listen, I can do this for you, I can do this, and and Jesus is like, My God can do that.
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Like, I just I don't need you, I'm good, you know.
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:16.480
Right.
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But like this kind of thing, you're always being tested if you're a rock star and you're a Christian.
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Like, you know, I don't know if he's even aware of the tests he would have to go through.
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Right.
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:37.599
You know, maybe he's like my dad used to always say stuff like, I'm sure he's just laughing all the way to the bank.
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.079
Yeah, I love that phrase, laughing all the way to the bank.
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Because he's a ha ha ha ha ha, you all judge me and think I'm ridiculous and earnest.
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But I've got 11 times platinum, one of my albums.
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:56.160
Yeah, you know, and whether or not you think I sing like a pirate, I you guys are talking about me.
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Like, you know, I don't know.
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.039
Who has the last laugh, Scott?
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Stapp.
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:05.599
Yeah, well, that's like a lot of these artists that we make fuck out.
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:06.960
It's like, yeah.
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:08.319
Like the guy on YouTube.
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He did better than you about Fred Durst.
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Put us in our place.
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Listen, I am in my place, but I still want to talk about like this ridiculous video.
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Up high, I feel like I'm alive for the first time.
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Set up high, I'm strong enough to take these dreams and make them mine.
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Aspirational in so many ways.
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We gotta talk about the video.
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Before we get to the video, though.
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Question for you here.
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From 2000 to 2009, so the 2000s, right?
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Before we get to the 2010s.
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Can you think of any artists that you think would have been the best selling artists of 2000 to 2009?
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It's a tough one.
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.880
I was sort of like, oh Is it like is it like boy bands?
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Is it like a bit of a big thing?
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It's a mix of interestingly enough, top in the top 10.
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I think I have a list longer than 10, but in the top 10, is I recall there's no boy bands.
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Is there is Brittany then?
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Britney's in there, yes.
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.559
Okay, so Christina as well then, right?
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Christina's not top ten, but she might be further down.
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But in the top ten, Brittany is.
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:23.440
Um is it like you two, you two and stuff like that?
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:24.079
No.
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In Oh, is it would it be like Whitney Houston?
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No.
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2000s.
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.599
I mean, this is a hard question to ask you, but I'll tell you number one is rap.
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Oh.
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:47.119
So are we thinking like um is it is that when um is that like Dr.
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:47.599
Dre?
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:48.799
Yeah, but who who is this?
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:49.599
Who is one of the things?
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:50.400
Ice Cube?
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:51.279
Uh Stoop.
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:53.200
Stoop Doctor No, MM.
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:55.039
Oh, MM, Dr.
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:55.519
Dre.
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:56.160
Oh, okay.
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.079
So it so this is just an interesting list.
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:03.039
And and I, you know, that's that's a tough question to throw in you because I wouldn't, I I was surprised.
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:04.799
Number one was MM.
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:06.319
It's 2009.
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.079
Number two is the Beatles.
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.119
Well, because they're just they're just constantly selling albums.
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:11.599
Okay.
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:12.000
Right.
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.000
So they're just selling, selling, and selling.
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:14.559
Okay.
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.960
So these are the top, like, just what is this album sales for the n for 2000 to 2009.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.199
So fra for that nine years.
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:24.079
That decade.
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:24.559
Okay.
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:25.440
Ten years.
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:27.039
So Eminem's number one.
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:27.360
Okay.
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:35.360
The Beatles, which is just an attestament to just how Tim McGraw and Toby Keith coming in three and four.
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.079
I don't even know a song by either.
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:39.679
Oh, yeah, it's country.
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:41.599
Brittany's at five.
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:42.079
Okay.
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:42.719
Country.
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:44.400
Kenny Chesney, number six.
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.400
Gosh, the country people really are.
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:47.360
Nelly.
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:48.159
Nelly.
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.039
Number seven, Lincoln Park.
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:51.679
Wow.
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:52.480
Number eight.
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:53.199
Gosh.
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:54.320
And number nine.
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:55.679
Creed.
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:57.440
And that ten is Jay-Z.
00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:58.480
Wow.
00:34:58.960 --> 00:34:59.679
You go further down.
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:03.119
Nickelback, Josh Groben, Rascal Flat.
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:04.639
Country really showing up.
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:05.840
Metallica.
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:06.400
Yep.
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:07.760
Alan Jackson.
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.519
There's in sync.
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:12.320
So in sync number 16 is your first, like.
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:12.960
Okay.
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:14.719
But anyway, interesting though.
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.239
So in among the best-selling albums of the 2000s, there's Creed.
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.119
And they were fucking huge.
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:29.599
I still kind of can't get over that MM was from 2000 to 2010, right?
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.119
Yeah, but that's his heyday.
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:33.599
Yeah.
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:38.719
That's his, you know, that's when he's got a big thing.
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:39.440
All right.
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.800
So here's he's somebody who never took himself too seriously.
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:43.679
Oh yeah.
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:44.159
Yeah.
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:50.159
I mean, he probably maybe maybe should have thought a little harder about some of the lyrics, but um Okay.
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.199
We gotta talk about the music video.
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:54.559
Oh my gosh.
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:56.320
Oh my god.
00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:00.079
This okay number one the higher music video.
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:12.000
Can we just talk about the new technology that must have just come out that that year about freeze framing or whatever it's called when they just freeze the person and then you do a 360 around them?
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.280
It's kind of like, you know, so we can see that frozen person.
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:23.599
Yeah, that in a whatever that technology you you know famously debut, maybe not debuted, but probably to mass audiences in Crouching Tiger, Head and Dragon.
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:24.880
I loved that movie.
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:25.920
The Matrix.
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:26.719
Love.
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:27.199
Right.
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:32.719
So, in other words, the person usually does some kind of a movement, maybe off the ground.
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:34.000
They're frozen.
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.320
The camera goes around them.
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:37.679
Cool technology.
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.440
When it came out, everyone was like, holy shit.
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:48.000
Like this is yeah, the cool thing about it is like they're frozen, and then you can go around them and see their whole 3D body frozen, but then they move again.
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:49.039
Yeah, then they move again.
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.360
This video got them just frozen.
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:51.760
Right.
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.480
So this so this is the video.
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.000
The video was filmed.
00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:57.280
So this is what 99.
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.119
The music video was shot in Orlando, Florida at the Hard Rock Cafe.
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:04.000
That's where that big dumb red screen was.
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:06.159
So stupid.
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.000
What is that screen made of?
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:09.760
Like polyurethane.
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:18.960
So the the director um had also directed one of their earlier videos from the first album, What's This Life For?
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:24.000
And she recalls coming up with the idea after listening to the song with a record label.
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:30.400
The first idea she had was of an epic performance that's later questioned to have ever happened.
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.079
It was the only idea she ever pitched for the video.
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:42.400
So the video was some kind of a creative struggle, as Creed had only a short time to shoot the video before they went on tour in Japan.
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:52.159
Over 300 extras, who we need to talk about, were used in the video as members of the audience as well as the people seen in the band with the band backstage.
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.320
So can you imagine the 300 extras?
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.440
So those girls sitting there, they just like okay, who are the prettiest?
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:05.760
They only found like four pretty girls out of those 300 people because you just kept seeing those same four girls over and over again.
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.199
So the video starts, the band's backstage.
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:23.039
We I can't even put into words how bad the like this zoom feature they're using is and and the way that it's like a jump cut, like you're seeing from back, and now all of a sudden you're like right here at their chest looking at them.
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:24.239
It's so bad.
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.800
But it's a girls' like bathing suit top, like it's the band.
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.320
Now it's a bathing suit top.
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:30.960
It's bad.
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.199
And then the band the band comes on stage and performs.
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:39.360
So pretty like generic uh description, but the way it's shot is it's like a war crime.
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:41.840
They should be round up on charges for this thing.
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.440
Um let's see.
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:49.840
So it says that um for the pause scenes, so this is what the effect Becky was talking about.
00:38:50.000 --> 00:39:03.519
The director had the band and audience freeze while the camera rotated around them and also used multiple camera setup around the band that were um then joined with hovering objects added later in post-production.
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:08.880
Cables were also used for scenes where Stap is hovering above the audience.
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.159
And this is this is this is you really gotta see this.
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:22.880
I mean, first of all, his whole his whole demeanor on stage has this just it reeks of like God complex.
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.880
He's like staring up at the heavens with these poses.
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:28.559
But who did the first?
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:33.760
Is it um what's his face who it heads um Metallica?
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:35.119
James Hetfield.
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.599
You know how he does that step forward on stage.
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:39.440
I think it's Robert Plant.
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:41.119
I think it's like Ledza.
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:43.440
I think I think this is all comes from Robert Plant.
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:52.079
I think he's like one of the first to do this sort of like demonstrably like I'm like like God up here on stage.
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:53.440
Well, he was.
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:55.119
He was.
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:56.639
He wasn't Scott Staff.
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:58.320
I mean, this video culminates.
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:14.320
Scott Staff literally does like the Christ on the cross pose and hovers above the audience, which is being frozen in these, like a girl in a tube top, like like she's at a club dancing to him, singing higher.
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.039
I mean, it's a sequin bottom top.
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.800
But it's also to know the technologies that like she had to freeze while they went around her.
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:28.400
And then the fact, like he's saying, let me take you higher while he goes higher.
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:40.400
You know, like he's the one who fl like flutters above everyone on his cables in his God um on the cross, Jesus on the cross depiction.
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:43.920
Like it's it's like, what is the point of this?
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:50.320
And then that at the end of it, it does not land that they didn't realize that happened.
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:51.599
Yeah, here's the description.
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:57.519
Uh, at one point, Stapp's hanging mid-air with his arms out while wearing his signature leather pants.
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:11.119
At the end of the video, the camera pans back to the band backstage as they are seen once again walking to the stage to perform as they did at the beginning, leaving the viewer to wonder if the original live performance was a dream or not.
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:12.559
That is not what you're wondering.
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.719
It's not what you're supposed to.
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.719
You're wondering who commissioned this video.
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:23.119
And who did it, and who thought it was a good idea, and like whatever.
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.880
It's also like just this that male gaze thing again that I am always bringing up.
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:35.840
Like just how the girls are such this ancillary, like a thing for tits and ass, and that's all we want them for.
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.840
And meanwhile, so much to you, though.
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:57.760
It's just like uh also like it just shows, like in the very opening scene, that girl's like staring at him, talking at to him on the couch, and he's just staring straight ahead, and he just gets up while she's talking, and she's like blink, blink, like it's you don't even matter at all.
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:16.800
You but but you have to see these these shots of Scott Stapp, like these wide-eyed, like I'm possessed shots that I don't know if it's like they told him to freeze for a shot and he just did it with wide eyes, but he just looks so fucking ridiculous in so many of these shots.
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.199
He's he's so cute though.
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:20.400
I mean, he is cute.
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.760
You can see why he's like a good frontman for a band.
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:24.559
Oh, yeah.
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:38.800
Um his you know, healthy hair, he's fit, he's got his really very shiny leather pants and his ubiquitous, like you know, rock star like work boots.
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:39.360
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:40.960
He looks very the whole yeah, yeah.
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:42.800
Oh, and his wife beater, of course.
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.760
His chest's kind of hairy, but yeah.
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:47.199
I'll cripple with that a little bit.
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:49.920
But but yeah, yeah, yeah, he definitely looks the part.
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:51.440
100% looks the part.
00:42:51.920 --> 00:43:03.519
Um in 19 in 2009, VH1, which I guess was still around 2009, put out their hundred greatest hard rock songs, and higher came in at number 95.
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:05.920
Wow, it's pretty low.
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:06.480
Yeah.
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.559
I would have put it higher than that.
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:09.440
Okay.
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.480
Would you have ever put their it on there?
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:13.199
I don't know.
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.360
I'd have to see the list to kind of get an idea of what I think.
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.519
Well, I saw something about Limp Biscuit, so.
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:18.079
Yes.
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.960
But it wasn't even Limp Biscuit Nookie, it was Break Things.
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:24.800
Oh, yeah, Break Things, yeah.
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:26.719
Oh, we did Nookie on this show, didn't we?
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:27.760
Yeah, we did Nookie.
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:33.119
Let's check out the let's check out the 2000 Billboard charts.
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:35.199
Where do you think this song landed?
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:36.320
It's low.
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:37.920
I feel like I want to say like 78.
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:39.039
Yeah, like not that high.
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.599
Yeah, but it was on the charts for a long time.
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:43.920
But I I think you're I don't know.
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:45.920
For the year, I feel like it might be.
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:48.400
I'll go number 30.
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:49.360
Okay.
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:50.960
You're gonna go in the 70s.
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:51.840
78.
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:52.559
Okay.
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:54.559
2000, here we go.
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.360
I feel like arms wide open got a lot higher.
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:58.400
Oh, higher.
00:43:58.480 --> 00:43:59.280
Look at that.
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:00.880
11.
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:02.559
Oh, it's number 11.
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:03.679
That's so high.
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:04.400
Wow.
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.320
Breathe by Faith Hill.
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:07.039
Smooth.
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.000
Well, Santana had two in the top three.
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.079
Smooth and Maria Maria.
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:13.920
But wow, number 11.
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:14.880
Higher.
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:16.880
Holy cow.
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:18.079
Same name.
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:19.039
Same name.
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:19.840
Creed.
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.920
And then uh Arms Light Open was number 36.
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:25.280
Wow.
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:25.760
Wow.
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:26.719
And that's lower.
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.880
And then um Wow, higher number 11.
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:38.239
But I guess it does kind of make sense though, because this song, like it said it stayed on the charts for like 50 weeks or something.
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.360
It was such a long time.
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:41.760
That song Music by Madonna.
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.840
Music makes the people come together.
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:47.039
I like that song.
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:50.079
She sang it at the halftime of the World Cup final.
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:51.119
It was so bad.
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.440
I cannot believe they brought that out.
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.559
Um look at Christina, 19.
00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:59.119
What a girl wants.
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:00.320
Yeah.
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:01.840
Bye bye bye in saying.
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:02.719
Yeah, let's go through.
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:03.440
Let's just go through here.
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:04.000
The top 10.
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.840
So Faith Hill number one, breathe, which I'm trying to remember what that sounds like.
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:10.800
Smooth Maria Maria.
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:14.400
I Wanna Know by Joe was number four.
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.559
I the only thing I can think of is I wanna know what Joe being.
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.320
Tell me what's on your.
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:23.599
That's not that song.
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:28.079
That's a R D Joe.
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:29.920
I don't know.
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:30.719
I don't know that song.
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:34.559
Everything you want by Vertical Horizon, speaking of post-grunge.
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:35.920
I don't know that song.
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:37.119
Say my name.
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:38.400
Destiny's Child.
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.119
I knew I loved you by Savage Garden.
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:41.840
I don't know.
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.039
Amazed by Lone Star in 2000.
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:45.519
This is terrible.
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:47.440
Bent by Matchbox 20.
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:50.079
He wasn't man enough by Tony Braxton.
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.239
I mean, this is really it's tough.
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:56.320
Number 14 is a thong song.
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:01.920
Kryptonite three doors down.
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:03.440
Oh my god, three doors down.
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:04.320
There you go.
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:11.519
Yeah, I mean, I maybe I mean when you see the list, it's like it's not quite so impressive that higher was number 11.
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:16.480
It was like those Olympic athletes that got gold medal in like one of the boycott years, you know.
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.880
It's like, yeah, but half the countries weren't here.
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.079
Yeah, bye-bye, bye, by NSYNC.
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:28.480
Uh well, Mark Anthony coming in at number 22 and 23 with two songs I couldn't place.
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.199
You sang to me, and I need to know.
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:32.159
No idea.
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:35.119
I mean, if this this show, what was number 200?
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.960
If this is the stuff, or number 100, sorry, 100.
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:45.039
At number 100, Shackles Praise You by Mary Mary.
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:45.840
Never heard of it.
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:47.440
Waiting for Tonight by J Lo.
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.840
Gotta tell you, Samantha Moomba.
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:52.960
No idea.
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:54.800
Independent women.
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.360
Okay, that was kind of either coming up or falling off the charts.
00:46:57.679 --> 00:46:58.320
Great song.
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:00.239
Aaliyah, R.I.P.
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:02.719
Cowboy Take Me Away.
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:05.599
I mean, what is this?
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:08.400
24-7 by Kevin Edmonds.
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:09.599
Kevon.
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.320
Oh, let's check out Kevin Edmonds.
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:14.079
There he is.
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:15.199
That's him.
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:16.400
Oh, he's for sure.
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:18.719
He's the older brother of babyface Edmonds.
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:18.880
Okay.
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:20.719
Oh, he looks like him, kinda.
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:22.320
Um wow.
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:23.840
So 2000.
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.599
I mean, is this like one of the worst years?
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:28.239
Yes.
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:29.360
I'm going to say yes.
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:30.079
This is terrible.
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:31.760
Doesn't that look like Jenny McCarthy?
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:32.880
Oh, it's Faith Hill.
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:33.599
Faith Hill.
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.519
How does Breathe Go?
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:37.679
I feel like we totally know that.
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:39.280
Yeah, I want to pull it up.
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:40.079
Yeah.
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.199
So wait, this is crossover from country.
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.920
Is she was she a country star, Faith Hill?
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.559
In fact, wasn't she married to Tim McGraw?
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:51.440
They might still be married.
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:56.800
Wait, was Faith Hill the one that um she I helped her when she was pregnant?
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:58.400
Oh she's really beautiful.
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:00.079
She is very pretty.
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:12.239
But I think Was Faith Hill the one that um Garth Brooks was obsessed with.
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:13.840
Oh, are they married?
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:15.679
Garth Brooks, maybe they got married.
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:18.239
Whoever she married to, I think she's still married.
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:19.119
Okay, I can't.
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:19.519
Oh, sorry.
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:20.239
That's okay.
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.880
I want to say though, Faith Hill.
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:25.360
Wait, Tim McGraw, yeah, it's Faith Hill.
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:26.320
It is Tim McGraw.
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:28.320
And are they still married?
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.000
Um Yeah.
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:34.159
Yeah, they're married.
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:48.880
But I remember there being maybe it was Treshie Crew, but I remember there being some story where it was like Garth Brooks was married, but he was obsessed with like a fellow country star, and it led to his first divorce or something.
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:50.000
I don't I don't know.
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.239
But wow, what a year for music.
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:53.519
2000.
00:48:54.239 --> 00:49:01.039
Creed found the right time to good job, Creed, in like hitting your stride at the right time.
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:03.280
Also the CD stride.
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:04.400
Yeah, that's it.
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:09.920
Knowing that these are this is the the last messages of people actually buying.
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.159
Because is Napster, when did Napster come in?
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:13.199
It's about this time.
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:14.639
It's all starting to happen.
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.599
The CD model starts to collapse.
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.440
But I think I want to say CD sales, hold on.
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.039
It peaks around this time.
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:25.920
CD sales by year.
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:36.159
Yeah, they peaked in 2000 with 900 million units shipped, dropped sharply by 95% over the next two decades, right?
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:37.840
So yeah, look at this.
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:51.679
So CDs really pick up in the 90s and they continue to rise, peaking at 2000, and then it's a pretty precipitous drop-off, especially around 2005.
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:56.079
It really drops off after that as streaming takes over.
00:49:56.159 --> 00:50:00.079
So if you're Creed, if you're Faith Hill, congratulations.
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:03.679
You were you were at the right place, right time.
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.519
I mean, yeah.
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:06.320
Woof.
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:09.199
Well, they went 11 times platinum with their CD.
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:16.719
I mean, that's like and we were paying, you know, 15 bucks a CD.
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:17.119
Yeah.
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:21.119
And today you can have a Spotify account for less than that.
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:22.079
Yeah.
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.840
I mean a month, and still will complain about that.
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:31.440
And you have this in your pocket, every song you could ever want to hear at any drop of a hat.
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:32.559
I mean,$12.
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:34.320
So I'm gonna run this really quick.
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:35.920
Let's let's just say a Spotify account.
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:36.880
I know it's increased a lot.
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:37.920
Let's just say$15.
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:44.559
$15 today in let's say$2000.
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.440
Uh$29 today.
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.119
So that was like a double CD in those days.
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:52.719
So we're we're paying.
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:58.800
Today we are paying, which maybe is a testament to how poorly artists are paid, but I know.
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:06.880
It's really we're paying this minuscule amount a month for what would have cost two CDs.
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.719
The world's first CD, 1982.
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:13.519
ABBA's The Visitors.
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.519
It was produced in a German factory.
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:18.239
Philips.
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:19.199
Yeah.
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:25.599
The CD was originally designed to hold 60 minutes of audio with a disc diameter of 150 millimeters.
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.199
However, the capacity was eventually extended to 74 minutes.
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:33.440
Um the advent of CD marks the beginning of the digital music era.
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:33.840
Yeah.
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:35.679
The CD was destroying something else.
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.760
Like you you never no one ever like they this existed.
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.000
Like some people would make like a CD.
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:42.480
Yeah.
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:43.360
Burn a CD.
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:44.719
Yeah, burning CDs, yeah.
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:48.960
But like no one ever burned you a CD in the same way someone made you a mixtape.
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:50.639
It was hard, it was a lot harder.
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:51.199
Yeah.
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:52.239
It was a lot harder.
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:58.400
Because those making a making a mixtape, you could have the double, the double tape player, right?
00:51:58.480 --> 00:51:58.559
Yes.
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:02.719
So you put your recording on a wall and you're feeding, you know, or off the radio.
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.880
And the CD, I remember it briefly, it was right like Napster, right?
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:07.199
Yeah.
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:09.440
You suddenly, oh, you can make a mix of CDs.
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:10.639
It yeah, yeah, I agree.
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.159
It never had the same oomph that a mixtape had.
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.760
Well, and it was such a way to tell someone something.
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:18.559
The mixtape.
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:19.519
Yeah, the mixtape.
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:20.400
Oh, absolutely.
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.960
It was like, I love you, and these are all the songs that make me think of you.
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:26.400
Yeah, totally.
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:30.400
Um this is your stereo gum guy who we want to have on the show.
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:32.159
I know, I gotta, I know, I gotta figure it out.
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:33.599
He's been on vacation.
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:38.880
Um, so look, I mean, we gotta just at least say this about Scott Stapp at the end, right?
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.880
Things kind of went downhill for him, but there's only this one thing that jumped out.
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.039
I mean, that I just can't tell you about.
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:46.559
Um, so this one, this is not it.
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:54.880
But in 2002, outside Chicago, Stapp was so drunk and incoherent that a group of fans filed a class action lawsuit.
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:55.440
Wow.
00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:00.960
A judge drove the suit out, but anytime a band gets sued by its own fans, that becomes a news story.
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:04.159
Yeah, he had really had an alcohol problem.
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:05.280
Well, I remember that.
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:11.199
And also he was so big about bringing his like son on tour with him.
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:11.920
Yeah.
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:20.880
And um, I don't know, his family, but then like she was supposed to, his wife was supposed to have kept him in line and off the bottle or something.
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:22.960
Like there was just so much of that in the news.
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.719
They just, I mean, I think like so many bands, just prodigious drinkers.
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:31.519
They they end up they kicked one member out of the band before the third album because of his drinking.
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:38.480
Uh at the time it was like framed as he'd gone on radio and criticized Eddie Vetter, but it really was because of his drinking.
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.079
Oh, with this one though.
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:47.360
Stapp also sued to block the release of a sex tape that starred him, Kid Rock, and two women.
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:49.519
Oh man.
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:51.599
Kid Rock.
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:53.519
It was on a tour bus.
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:54.400
Oh my gosh.
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:58.000
Stapp was charged with felony domestic abuse in 2007.
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:11.280
In 2016, he replaced the late Scott Wyland as the new singer for the hard rock supergroup Art of Anarchy, and then his bandmates sued him two years later for refusing to tour or promote the album they'd made together.
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:13.199
Have you heard of Art of Anarchy?
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:13.920
I never have.
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:15.119
Me neither.
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:16.320
Um, all right.
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.880
Well, I don't know what else there is to say about this.
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.760
I mean, can you take me to a place where blind men see?
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.199
I want to go to that place with golden showers.
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.159
That just means sunshine skies while it's raining.
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:35.119
Yeah, definitely.
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:35.840
That's definitely what it means.
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:38.239
That's definitely what it means.
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:44.320
So if the place where blind men see, is that like what about if you already have sight?
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:45.119
Do you lose your sight?
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.360
What about uh blind dogs?
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:48.079
Oh yeah.
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:49.440
Like Daisy could see.
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:50.559
Daisy could see.
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.639
Odysseus's loyal servant, blind, John Leguizamo.
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:54.960
Yeah.
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:56.559
He's gonna get an Oscar nomination.
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:57.760
He was amazing in that.
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.159
Well, there's there's Creed.
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:04.800
I mean, you know, look, Creed if the song comes on the radio, I'm gonna sing along.
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:05.840
Oh my god, turn it up.
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:06.960
Take it higher.
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:07.840
Turn it up.
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:08.239
Exactly.
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:12.320
The volume higher is an app name because people's volume is going higher when the song comes on.
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:14.639
Yeah, it's fun to that's this.
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:15.599
Let's, babe.
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:18.559
Can we do a pinky swear next time we do karaoke?
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:18.960
We do this.
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:20.480
We'll do creed.
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:22.639
Look, you gotta watch this video.
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:24.239
You gotta watch the other videos too.
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:29.360
Go watch the uh with arms wide open video, but also what about the rock hopping one?
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.119
The one where he's falling.
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:42.960
We we went down a rabbit hole of their videos, and they are truly the one you the one you gotta watch after you watch higher is um hold on, where is it?
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:45.039
It's human clay.
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:46.320
It was on the next album.
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:46.960
Hold on.
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:51.760
Um I didn't even know the song when you when you said One Last Breath.
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.079
You've gotta watch the One Last Breath video.
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:55.760
You know it when you hear it.
00:55:56.159 --> 00:56:00.559
He's falling like in the shape of he's doing again, he's doing the Christ pose.
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:01.679
Calm down, Scott.
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.400
It's so self-serious.
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:12.639
Pedestals in the desert, like skinny little rock pedestals, like or or like sand.
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:14.159
I mean, it's just so crazy.
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:14.960
Like, why?
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:25.119
It's also like it also it reminded me so much of like Shark Boy and Lava Girl kind of video technique.
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:26.400
It was so terrible.
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:27.280
It's bad.
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:28.239
It's really bad.
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:28.960
It's bad.
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.840
It's it's I mean, it's just everything Creed.
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:37.280
It's pretentious, it's self-serious, huge guitars, and you know what?
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.360
You're probably gonna turn it up when it comes on.
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.840
Yeah, we never even got to the what are they doing now?
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.400
Oh, yeah, I think they reunited.
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:47.840
Yeah, that sounds right.
00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:48.559
No, hold on.
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:49.039
Creed.
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:49.760
There we go.
00:56:49.920 --> 00:57:00.639
Um, after an 11-year hiatus, Creed reunited in July 2023 and subsequently announced headlining tours in 24, 25, and 26.
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:02.320
Do we have to go see them, babe?
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:02.960
Hold on.
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:03.840
Let's see.
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:05.760
Creed on tour.
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:07.920
Creed official website.
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:08.800
Here we go.
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:09.679
Oh yeah.
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:10.960
Oh yes!
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:12.639
They're the same.
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.280
Oh my god, this picture.
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:16.480
Yep.
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:18.559
They're still looking heavenward.
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:19.199
Perfect.
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:20.239
Okay, here we go.
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:22.559
Um, with Limp Biscuit and Cypress.
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.679
Oh, it's the it's the summer of 99 tour.
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:26.159
Okay.
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:30.400
Oh, yeah, bush.
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.840
Speaking of fucking guys that need to calm down.
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:34.159
Yeah.
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:35.760
Um Gavin Rossdown.
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:36.480
Let's see.
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:37.360
July.
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:39.039
Oh, they're just Puddle of Mud.
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:39.599
Where is it?
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:40.400
In Illinois.
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.360
They're playing a festival in Illinois right now.
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:44.800
Right now.
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:45.679
Wow.
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.159
Gosh, are they coming to LA, babe?
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:50.880
No, it's a festival out there, but let's see here.
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.679
Um oh, look at this though.
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:57.760
They got something planned for April of 2027.
00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.039
In Norway.
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:01.360
Sold out, babe.
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:04.400
Wait, is it in Norway?
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:05.840
Yeah, in Norwegian.
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:07.599
On Norwegian Joy.
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:08.639
That sounds like a cruise ship.
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:09.679
It's a cruise ship.
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.400
They're playing a cruise ship.
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.119
They're on the Norwegian Joy.
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:16.880
Wait, what does this say here?
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:18.320
Fifth sailing.
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.519
Wow, they're doing cruise ship tours.
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:22.960
That's what they're doing now.
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:24.159
This is incredible.
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.000
Join Creed with Summer of New York.
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:35.360
The vacation taking you higher.
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:39.519
April 17th, 2027.
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:41.840
Oh, unbelievable.
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:44.400
Look at it's Miami to the Bahamas.
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.199
I mean, listen, I would do that.
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:49.360
This is incredible.
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:51.840
With Breaking Benjamin and Seven Dust.
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:52.880
Have you heard of those bands?
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:53.599
I've never heard of them.
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:53.920
No.
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:56.880
The ship is full, but we may have room for you.
00:58:57.599 --> 00:58:58.159
Oh, wow.
00:58:58.239 --> 00:58:58.960
Look at the crowd.
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:00.960
Louder on the ocean.
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:02.079
Nope.
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:03.599
I know.
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:05.679
Are you ready for this lineup?
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:06.559
Nope.
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:08.400
Look at that crowd.
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:13.519
In the heat on a cruise ship in the middle of the ocean.
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:14.480
No.
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.119
Creed on cruise.
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:20.000
All right, I think we should end with that.
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.719
Yeah, I don't think we could get any higher than that.
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:23.760
I mean, look at these people.
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:24.320
Look at this.
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:25.199
They're look at it.
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:25.519
No.
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:40.239
They're gambling on the we're taking over Norwegian Joy for the biggest and baddest party on the seas with multiple stages, food on deck, relaxing spas, and an onboard casino, including, including a board that says Creed on it.
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:45.199
But babe, all of which you'll welcome with arms wide open.
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:50.559
The copywriter was on point, I have to say.
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.599
The cruise that will take your summer hire.
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:55.840
Nice, nicely done, Creed.
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.280
Good job by you.
00:59:57.679 --> 00:59:58.719
Happy sales.
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:01.119
Love you.
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:01.840
Love you.