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Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, November second.
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I'm your host, tom Or.
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The Penn State game is today, the game against Michigan
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in twenty eight days. We are here at Beaver Stadium,
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home of the Penn State Antyllions and also the site
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of a Titanic struggle coming up later today noon kickoff
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on Fox number three Penn State, number four, Ohio State.
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This is a game that is going to be a
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feels kind of season defining in a way, at least
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right now. We'll see you know, there will be more
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seniors heasing defining games, certainly for Ohio State. This is
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one for Penn State that feels like this is going
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to go a long way towards determining if this is
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another very good but not great Penn State season or
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potentially a very different and potentially much better Penn State
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kind of season.
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Season defining, career defining is a little bit that is
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that too far? Maybe, But you don't want to lose
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this one. Both teams they've got the opportunity, they know
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they have the opportunity to get the win. Somebody is
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going to leave this game upset, angry, disillusioned, and very
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very doubted afterwards.
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And I think the team that wins this game is
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this is a lot I think like the Oregon Ohio
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State game a couple weeks ago, where the team that
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wins this game in the twelve team playoff era to
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have a win over another top five opponent, especially in
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Ohio State's case, a road win.
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Over a top five opponent.
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That feels like that's going to be something that functionally
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the winner of this game is probably basically in the
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college football Playoff.
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Yeah, I would agree.
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It would take an upset to get knocked out at
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this point.
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So you get the win. And Penn State.
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Their schedule is snacky cake.
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Yeah, very much so, so they can go ahead and
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make their reservations if they haven't already. If they win
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this from Ohio State, you still have the Indiana game,
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but you'll be favored in that. You'll be expected to win,
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will you. We'll see. But this is the first big
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step to Indianapolis. As they say all roads to Indianapolis
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go through State College.
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They will say that this week at least the winner
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of this game not only has a likely ticket punch
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to the college football Playoff, they are certainly one of
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the front runners to be playing in Indianapolis alongside the
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Oregon Ducks, so a lot.
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On the line in this game.
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There's a bunch of injury questions, and I feel like
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we've sort of started to get some of the answers
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to those. Friday, there was reporting that Drew Aller we
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had sort of seen video of him kind of running
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around on the practice field earlier in the week, and
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it was like, Yeah, it looks a lot like a
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guy who's going to play. And then there was reporting
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on Friday from on three and other sources that Drew
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Aller does look like he's gonna play. I wonder how
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that impacts what Ohio State's game plan is going into
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this game, because it feels like if you have to
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deal with Drew Aller and Bo Pribula, that might complicate
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things a little bit.
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Yeah, and if Drew Aler was going to be if
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he was never hurt, they were still going to have
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to prepare for both quarterbacks because that's what Penn State
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does with Drew Rowler. I think one of the questions is, Okay,
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he's good enough to play, but what is is that
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eighty five percent? Is that ninety five percent? What kind
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of attack do they come after and with knowing that
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he's not entirely healthy because they know he's not healthy,
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they know he's healthy enough to play, Yeah, but he
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might have some issues where maybe does does that make
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Ohio State more aggressive in defending him or does it
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make it more passive because they just want to see
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what he can do before you know, they find out
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for sure. So I think the questions that Ohio State
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has they've had for a while in terms of how
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do we defend both what's the best course of action?
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I think one of the bigger questions is bo Prabula.
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For Beulah being able to throw the ball last week
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more than he's ever done and throw it successfully against Wisconsin,
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that might change some minds on what they need to
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expect when he's in the game because he's the running guy.
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But he threw the ball pretty well last week.
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Yeah, And if he is a multi dimensional threat, as
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you saw last week in Wisconsin, he was something like
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eleven for thirteen in that game. If he's a multi
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dimensional threat, then the question is Durreller multi dimensional threat?
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Because Aler is traditionally very much a pocket passer. Last
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week against Wisconsin, before he got hurt. He had a
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couple scrambles, so it was not you know, this is
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not ripping off eighty yards Khalil Tate style by any means.
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But it was five yards eight yards enough to turn
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a first and ten into a second and two, which
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is a big deal in a game that could be
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as tight as this one. You wonder how much the
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knee injury that he suffered last week might impact his
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ability to that. If he goes back to being more
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one dimensional, bot Pribuela may be more of a threat
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than drawlers.
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We will see.
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On the Ohio State side of things, the injury questions
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are on the offensive line. Ryan Day said on Wednesday
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that zen Maholski was trending towards not being able to play.
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We'll have the official availability report on Saturday morning for
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you should be able to drop that about nine am.
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But assuming to take Ryan Day at his word, and
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I certainly looked at zen Mahowski coming off the field
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on the cart at the end of last week's game
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and thought he's not playing im Penn State. So it's
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probably safe to take Ryan Day at his word on this.
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There's a bunch of different configurations to the offensive line
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that they could go with.
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What are you expecting on Saturday?
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Well, I think in a place like this, you want
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to go with your most experienced offensive line. And if
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that's the case, then you're talking Donovan Jackson at left tackle.
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And Ryan Day wasn't was not interested in giving out
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any of the plans. He said, well, we'll show everybody
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on Saturday. But you've got guys who have started. Donovan Jackson.
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Throw him at left tackle, last year's starting center, Carson
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Hinsman twelve career starts. Perhaps he's at left guard for you,
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and then you've got your regular starter at center, You've
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got your regular starter right guard, you've got your regular
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starter at right tackle, all kinds of experience for guys
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who have been in big games and played and been
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in hostile environments experienced. I think when you talk about
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Carson Hinsman, a guy that has played center, so he
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has to be able to handle he has to be
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intelligent enough and athletic enough to handle that position, which
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means you can also do it pretty much thing on
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the interior. So I'm interested to see if that's the
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way they go. But we've seen Austin Siraveld play splitting
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time at left guard. We saw my right guard. We
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saw Luke Montgomery come in to be that backup left
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guard when Donovan Jackson kicked out two left tackles.
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So they've got options.
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What they need is their best option, and for me,
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that's the most experienced option.
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Yeah, I look at a situation like this. It is
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not a primetime game, but it is going to be
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a loud and very hostile environment. We were here two
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years ago and it was a noon game, but it
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gets loud in there. It's not a white out, but boy,
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there are a lot of people being very loud and
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shaking white pomp poms, So you would be forgiven for
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thinking it looks a lot like a white out and
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sounds a lot like a white out. So yeah, I
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think I'm with you. When you look at how college
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football coaches approach things, it is generally reduced the variance
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as much as you can what is the surest way
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to get a at least passable solid performance, And if
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you can avoid having someone making their third or first
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college you know, collegiate start, and you have a veteran
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option there who started twelve games last season. Boy, it
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feels a lot to me like, that's what you might
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think about doing.
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Especially after watching Zendehowski in his first career start last week,
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and you saw, you saw two weeks of practice where
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you felt like he was your best option, and then
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the game is real and it looks a lot different
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than apparently what it looked like in practice.
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Ran Day also this week, talked about the three factors
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that were maybe going to be determining the outcome of
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this game.
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One of them is the run game. Who can run
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the ball better?
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And Ohio State has Philly struggle to run the ball
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over the last couple of weeks. It's obviously going to
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be a different offensive line. We will be a better
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offensive line. We'll see it'll be a different offensive line.
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And that's you know, I think there were a lot
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of people asking for it. You know, I saw a
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lot of it. It can't possibly get any worse kind of thoughts,
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which is almost never true.
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It get tony, it can always get worse.
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But with the Ohio State offensive line, with the Ohio
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State running backs who were not able to hit a
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bunch of big ones last week, where even the week before,
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how well do you expect Ohio State to be able
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to run the ball against Penn State because the Penn
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State defensive line.
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Is pretty solid.
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We'll see Deny Dennis su Sutton is still up in
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the air his status. I have thought all week much
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more likely at Alur plays than Dennis Sutton plays. But
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we'll see that could be an impact in terms of
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the pass rush and pass pro for Ohio State. How
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are you expecting Ohio State to be able to hold
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up again in the run game?
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You know, reports the last couple of days in practice
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have been good in terms of the offensive line and
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the ability to run the ball.
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I still want to see it.
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I'm not expecting you know, am I expecting one hundred
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yards rushing. I don't think I am, Which is it's
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dangerous territory on the road against a good defense, an
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offense that can do some things. But also I don't
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expect a lot of running from either team. So you know,
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this one's going to be close enough where I don't
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know that the winner of the running battle is what
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decides this. I think it's the winner of the other
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battles that will decide it.
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Well.
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The other battles that Brian Day singled out were the
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turnover battle and the explosive plays. Battle you could see
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Ohio State running for eighty yards, but they hit three
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big ones in the past game. I mean, that's basically
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what they did last week against Nebraska was a couple
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of long ones in the past game, and that got
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them most of the way towards winning the game. And
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they certainly have the explosive plays and the talent to
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make the explosive plays. And you look at Penn State,
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and Penn State's secondary is good, but it's not necessarily
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quite up to the standard of some of the recent secondaries.
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You know, I know Ryan Day wants.
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To run the ball, but it feels like there's a
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real possibility that if they can throw and they can
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hit enough of those explosives, that might make a whole
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lot of other stuff not matter.
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Yeah, I mean we saw it last week with two
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receptions for one hundred yards, two pass plays for one
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hundred yards, Like that's as good as running the ball
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for one hundred.
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Yards to theme just so you know, the yards count
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the same and.
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The points count the same as well. So if you
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can get some of those chunk yardage plays that that
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eliminates the need you have been able to run efficiently
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for those forty yards and so you know, but also
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you don't have to get explosive plays just through the air.
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They did not have any explosive plays really in the
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ground game last week.
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They did against Oregon.
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We know the potential is always there with both Trevion
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Henderson and Quinchawn Judkins.
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So I don't think that's out of the.
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Rebel possibility that one of those guys also hits one,
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because they're always capable of doing so well.
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And the last time Ohio State was here, they were
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down in the fourth quarter and it was it was
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like a oh boy, this is a season defining drive,
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and Travon Henderson ripped off a long run and boom,
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game over. You can get bottle up for most of
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the day, and you hit one big one on the ground,
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and you had a couple through the air, and you
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got your into the twenties. And this feels to me
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like a game that if you're in the twenties, you
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get a pretty good shot to win this game. I
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don't know what the over under is, but it feels
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it feels to me like one where twenty one points
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might get you there, twenty eight points probably get you
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there and thirty five points absolutely gets you there.
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Yeah, thirty five points and somebody's getting fired the other day,
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head couch, How could this happen? But I don't know
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what the over under is. I'm probably gonna say like
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forty two to forty three South, Yeah, forty six and
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a half. Okay, all right, I went under on mind justly,
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I did too. Yeah, but yeah, if you can get
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to twenty eight, I mean, start the bus. I think,
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unless it's multiple overtimes. I just don't see a thirty
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one to you know, thirty four to thirty one type
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of game here.
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And I all week was thinking twenty to seventeen someone,
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and I think I might have ended up picking twenty
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one seventeen.
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But I mean it, it.
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Just feels a lot like you're right in that You're
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right in that range where one play the margins in
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this game are going to be so close.
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It feels like and Ohio State's.
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Played a bunch of those games in recent years and
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they've come up short in the number of them.
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It feels like a lot.
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Of those close games, it's it's a one score game
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in the final quarter, and your one play one direction
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or another from someone, you know, the winner of the game
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swinging on one play.
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Ohio State has come up short in a number of
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those at.
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Michigan last year, Missouri last year was was certainly sort
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of in that boat. Oregon this year another one, very
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very close game. This is one where you don't want
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to talk about legacy because this is a game that
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if Ohio State wins, then it's just kind of everyone.
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Goes on to the next one, you know. But again,
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they beat Indiana and.
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Which a sentence we all thought we were going to
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be saying this time of year earlier or earlier in
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the season. It's not a legacy game, but it feels
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like it's a narrative game for both of these coaches
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because Ryan Day's had some close losses. Ryan Day doesn't
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lose to bad teams. When he loses, it's close games
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to good teams for the most part. James Franklin when
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he loses, it's to Ohio State or Michigan, And that's
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kind of it. And so one of these coaches is
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going to pick up a really big narrative win and
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a really big win in terms of their resume for
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the season as well.
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Yeah, and the thing like the irony with the narrative
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thing is that somebody has to win it. Yeah, So
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it doesn't really change necessarily or or shouldn't alter any
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kind of narrative, but it will certainly whoever loses this
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is going to be destroyed for it.
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I do think Franklin, James Franklin.
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Would be destroyed less because it's just understood that this
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is kind of what happens here. For Ryan Day to
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lose to a team that he hasn't lost to you before
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would be very detrimental in terms of that narrative. But
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then again, as we know, ten and two is probably
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still going to get you in in which case than anything,
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anything is possible. But it's not going to go well
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in the land of Ohio State for Ryan Day if
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they lose this one.
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So what did you end up go picking for your
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score for?
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I went twenty four twenty or twenty four to twenty
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one Ohio State, And now that I'm saying that out loud,
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it feels a little high. But we'll see, you know,
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I there's enough skill players here to do some damage.
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And I don't think either defenses look like they are
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unstoppable or a nonstoppable to.
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Yeah, I went twenty one to seventeen, so I'm glad
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you feel that I'm correct again Ohio State. I entered
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the week thinking I think I'm gonna pick Penn State
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and just kept waiting through the and then you know,
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Leithan Branson being back, that felt like a big you know,
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and he's not officially officially back, but Ryan Day made
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it sound like he's probably back earlier in the week.
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That feels like that's gonna be an impactful piece. If
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they can get the offensive line sorted out. That feels
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like that's gonna be impactful piece. Not having potentially we'll
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see maybe not having denied Dennis Sutton that could help
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the ohiosted offensive line a little bit. All this stuff
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is just it's all real, little fine margin stuff. But
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in the game that's probably gonna come down to one
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play at the end of the game. Ohio State just
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feels like it's like just a little bit more talented
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than Penn State, and it's gonna be a hostile, loud
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crowd that's gonna work in Penn State's favor.
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It's a noon game, not a night game.
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You know. I always say three points for home field advantage.
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I know I've heard people say five six points for
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the white out. Well, if it's five to six points
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in prime time for the white out, maybe it's like
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four at noon for this stadium, and that might be
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the difference. I mean, it's just you're talking real, real,
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fine margins. But it should be a heck of a
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college football game. I know Ohio State fans were not
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thrilled by the outcome of the Oregon game, but man,
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that was a good college football game. This should be
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a really good college football game on Saturday as well.
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Really looking forward to that and really look forward to
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having full coverage for you, dear viewer and listener at
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Saturday morning with our pregame show. Let you know, once
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we get the official availability report, who can go, who
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can't go, all that good stuff, we'll have our pregame show,
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talked about all the narratives that are gonna be swirling
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around this game. Oh boy, will there be stuff to
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talk about on that postgame show. Win or Louise for
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both of these teams. Man, is there gonna be some
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Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, November second.
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I'm your host, tom Or.
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The Penn State game is today, the game against Michigan
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in twenty eight days. We are here at Beaver Stadium,
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home of the Penn State Antyllions and also the site
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of a Titanic struggle coming up later today noon kickoff
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on Fox number three Penn State, number four, Ohio State.
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This is a game that is going to be a
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feels kind of season defining in a way, at least
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right now. We'll see you know, there will be more
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seniors heasing defining games, certainly for Ohio State. This is
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one for Penn State that feels like this is going
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to go a long way towards determining if this is
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another very good but not great Penn State season or
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potentially a very different and potentially much better Penn State
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kind of season.
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Season defining, career defining is a little bit that is
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that too far? Maybe, But you don't want to lose
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this one. Both teams they've got the opportunity, they know
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they have the opportunity to get the win. Somebody is
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going to leave this game upset, angry, disillusioned, and very
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very doubted afterwards.
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And I think the team that wins this game is
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this is a lot I think like the Oregon Ohio
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State game a couple weeks ago, where the team that
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wins this game in the twelve team playoff era to
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have a win over another top five opponent, especially in
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Ohio State's case, a road win.
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Over a top five opponent.
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That feels like that's going to be something that functionally
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the winner of this game is probably basically in the
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college football Playoff.
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Yeah, I would agree.
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It would take an upset to get knocked out at
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this point.
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So you get the win. And Penn State.
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Their schedule is snacky cake.
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Yeah, very much so, so they can go ahead and
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make their reservations if they haven't already. If they win
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this from Ohio State, you still have the Indiana game,
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but you'll be favored in that. You'll be expected to win,
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will you. We'll see. But this is the first big
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step to Indianapolis. As they say all roads to Indianapolis
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go through State College.
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They will say that this week at least the winner
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of this game not only has a likely ticket punch
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to the college football Playoff, they are certainly one of
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the front runners to be playing in Indianapolis alongside the
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Oregon Ducks, so a lot.
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On the line in this game.
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There's a bunch of injury questions, and I feel like
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we've sort of started to get some of the answers
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to those. Friday, there was reporting that Drew Aller we
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had sort of seen video of him kind of running
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around on the practice field earlier in the week, and
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it was like, Yeah, it looks a lot like a
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guy who's going to play. And then there was reporting
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on Friday from on three and other sources that Drew
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Aller does look like he's gonna play. I wonder how
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that impacts what Ohio State's game plan is going into
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this game, because it feels like if you have to
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deal with Drew Aller and Bo Pribula, that might complicate
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things a little bit.
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he was never hurt, they were still going to have
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to prepare for both quarterbacks because that's what Penn State
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does with Drew Rowler. I think one of the questions is, Okay,
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he's good enough to play, but what is is that
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eighty five percent? Is that ninety five percent? What kind
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of attack do they come after and with knowing that
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he's not entirely healthy because they know he's not healthy,
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they know he's healthy enough to play, Yeah, but he
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might have some issues where maybe does does that make
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Ohio State more aggressive in defending him or does it
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make it more passive because they just want to see
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what he can do before you know, they find out
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for sure. So I think the questions that Ohio State
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has they've had for a while in terms of how
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do we defend both what's the best course of action?
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I think one of the bigger questions is bo Prabula.
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For Beulah being able to throw the ball last week
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more than he's ever done and throw it successfully against Wisconsin,
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that might change some minds on what they need to
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expect when he's in the game because he's the running guy.
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But he threw the ball pretty well last week.
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you saw last week in Wisconsin, he was something like
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eleven for thirteen in that game. If he's a multi
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dimensional threat, then the question is Durreller multi dimensional threat?
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Because Aler is traditionally very much a pocket passer. Last
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week against Wisconsin, before he got hurt. He had a
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couple scrambles, so it was not you know, this is
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not ripping off eighty yards Khalil Tate style by any means.
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But it was five yards eight yards enough to turn
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a first and ten into a second and two, which
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is a big deal in a game that could be
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as tight as this one. You wonder how much the
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knee injury that he suffered last week might impact his
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ability to that. If he goes back to being more
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one dimensional, bot Pribuela may be more of a threat
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than drawlers.
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We will see.
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On the Ohio State side of things, the injury questions
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are on the offensive line. Ryan Day said on Wednesday
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that zen Maholski was trending towards not being able to play.
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We'll have the official availability report on Saturday morning for
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you should be able to drop that about nine am.
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But assuming to take Ryan Day at his word, and
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I certainly looked at zen Mahowski coming off the field
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on the cart at the end of last week's game
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and thought he's not playing im Penn State. So it's
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probably safe to take Ryan Day at his word on this.
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There's a bunch of different configurations to the offensive line
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that they could go with.
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What are you expecting on Saturday?
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Well, I think in a place like this, you want
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to go with your most experienced offensive line. And if
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that's the case, then you're talking Donovan Jackson at left tackle.
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any of the plans. He said, well, we'll show everybody
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on Saturday. But you've got guys who have started. Donovan Jackson.
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Throw him at left tackle, last year's starting center, Carson
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Hinsman twelve career starts. Perhaps he's at left guard for you,
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and then you've got your regular starter at center, You've
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got your regular starter right guard, you've got your regular
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starter at right tackle, all kinds of experience for guys
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who have been in big games and played and been
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in hostile environments experienced. I think when you talk about
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Carson Hinsman, a guy that has played center, so he
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has to be able to handle he has to be
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intelligent enough and athletic enough to handle that position, which
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means you can also do it pretty much thing on
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the interior. So I'm interested to see if that's the
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way they go. But we've seen Austin Siraveld play splitting
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time at left guard. We saw my right guard. We
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saw Luke Montgomery come in to be that backup left
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guard when Donovan Jackson kicked out two left tackles.
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So they've got options.
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What they need is their best option, and for me,
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that's the most experienced option.
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Yeah, I look at a situation like this. It is
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not a primetime game, but it is going to be
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a loud and very hostile environment. We were here two
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years ago and it was a noon game, but it
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gets loud in there. It's not a white out, but boy,
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there are a lot of people being very loud and
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shaking white pomp poms, So you would be forgiven for
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thinking it looks a lot like a white out and
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sounds a lot like a white out. So yeah, I
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think I'm with you. When you look at how college
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football coaches approach things, it is generally reduced the variance
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as much as you can what is the surest way
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to get a at least passable solid performance, And if
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you can avoid having someone making their third or first
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college you know, collegiate start, and you have a veteran
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option there who started twelve games last season. Boy, it
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feels a lot to me like, that's what you might
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think about doing.
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Especially after watching Zendehowski in his first career start last week,
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and you saw, you saw two weeks of practice where
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you felt like he was your best option, and then
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the game is real and it looks a lot different
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than apparently what it looked like in practice.
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Ran Day also this week, talked about the three factors
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that were maybe going to be determining the outcome of
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this game.
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One of them is the run game. Who can run
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the ball better?
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And Ohio State has Philly struggle to run the ball
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over the last couple of weeks. It's obviously going to
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be a different offensive line. We will be a better
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offensive line. We'll see it'll be a different offensive line.
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And that's you know, I think there were a lot
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of people asking for it. You know, I saw a
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lot of it. It can't possibly get any worse kind of thoughts,
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which is almost never true.
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It get tony, it can always get worse.
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But with the Ohio State offensive line, with the Ohio
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State running backs who were not able to hit a
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bunch of big ones last week, where even the week before,
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how well do you expect Ohio State to be able
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to run the ball against Penn State because the Penn
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Is pretty solid.
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We'll see Deny Dennis su Sutton is still up in
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the air his status. I have thought all week much
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more likely at Alur plays than Dennis Sutton plays. But
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we'll see that could be an impact in terms of
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the pass rush and pass pro for Ohio State. How
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are you expecting Ohio State to be able to hold
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up again in the run game?
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have been good in terms of the offensive line and
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the ability to run the ball.
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I still want to see it.
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I'm not expecting you know, am I expecting one hundred
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yards rushing. I don't think I am, Which is it's
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dangerous territory on the road against a good defense, an
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offense that can do some things. But also I don't
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expect a lot of running from either team. So you know,
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this one's going to be close enough where I don't
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know that the winner of the running battle is what
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decides this. I think it's the winner of the other
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battles that will decide it.
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The other battles that Brian Day singled out were the
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turnover battle and the explosive plays. Battle you could see
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Ohio State running for eighty yards, but they hit three
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big ones in the past game. I mean, that's basically
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what they did last week against Nebraska was a couple
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of long ones in the past game, and that got
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them most of the way towards winning the game. And
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they certainly have the explosive plays and the talent to
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make the explosive plays. And you look at Penn State,
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and Penn State's secondary is good, but it's not necessarily
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quite up to the standard of some of the recent secondaries.
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You know, I know Ryan Day wants.
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To run the ball, but it feels like there's a
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real possibility that if they can throw and they can
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hit enough of those explosives, that might make a whole
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lot of other stuff not matter.
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receptions for one hundred yards, two pass plays for one
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hundred yards, Like that's as good as running the ball
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for one hundred.
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Yards to theme just so you know, the yards count
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the same and.
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can get some of those chunk yardage plays that that
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eliminates the need you have been able to run efficiently
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for those forty yards and so you know, but also
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you don't have to get explosive plays just through the air.
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They did not have any explosive plays really in the
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ground game last week.
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They did against Oregon.
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We know the potential is always there with both Trevion
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Henderson and Quinchawn Judkins.
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because they're always capable of doing so well.
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down in the fourth quarter and it was it was
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like a oh boy, this is a season defining drive,
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and Travon Henderson ripped off a long run and boom,
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game over. You can get bottle up for most of
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the day, and you hit one big one on the ground,
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and you had a couple through the air, and you
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got your into the twenties. And this feels to me
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like a game that if you're in the twenties, you
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get a pretty good shot to win this game. I
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don't know what the over under is, but it feels
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it feels to me like one where twenty one points
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might get you there, twenty eight points probably get you
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there and thirty five points absolutely gets you there.
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Yeah, thirty five points and somebody's getting fired the other day,
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head couch, How could this happen? But I don't know
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what the over under is. I'm probably gonna say like
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forty two to forty three South, Yeah, forty six and
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a half. Okay, all right, I went under on mind justly,
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I did too. Yeah, but yeah, if you can get
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to twenty eight, I mean, start the bus. I think,
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unless it's multiple overtimes. I just don't see a thirty
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one to you know, thirty four to thirty one type
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of game here.
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And I all week was thinking twenty to seventeen someone,
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and I think I might have ended up picking twenty
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one seventeen.
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But I mean it, it.
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Just feels a lot like you're right in that You're
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right in that range where one play the margins in
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this game are going to be so close.
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It feels like and Ohio State's.
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Played a bunch of those games in recent years and
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they've come up short in the number of them.
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It feels like a lot.
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Of those close games, it's it's a one score game
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in the final quarter, and your one play one direction
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or another from someone, you know, the winner of the game
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swinging on one play.
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Ohio State has come up short in a number of
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those at.
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Michigan last year, Missouri last year was was certainly sort
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of in that boat. Oregon this year another one, very
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very close game. This is one where you don't want
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to talk about legacy because this is a game that
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if Ohio State wins, then it's just kind of everyone.
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Goes on to the next one, you know. But again,
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they beat Indiana and.
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Which a sentence we all thought we were going to
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be saying this time of year earlier or earlier in
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the season. It's not a legacy game, but it feels
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like it's a narrative game for both of these coaches
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because Ryan Day's had some close losses. Ryan Day doesn't
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lose to bad teams. When he loses, it's close games
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to good teams for the most part. James Franklin when
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he loses, it's to Ohio State or Michigan, And that's
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kind of it. And so one of these coaches is
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going to pick up a really big narrative win and
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a really big win in terms of their resume for
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the season as well.
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Yeah, and the thing like the irony with the narrative
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thing is that somebody has to win it. Yeah, So
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it doesn't really change necessarily or or shouldn't alter any
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kind of narrative, but it will certainly whoever loses this
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is going to be destroyed for it.
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I do think Franklin, James Franklin.
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Would be destroyed less because it's just understood that this
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is kind of what happens here. For Ryan Day to
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lose to a team that he hasn't lost to you before
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would be very detrimental in terms of that narrative. But
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then again, as we know, ten and two is probably
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still going to get you in in which case than anything,
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anything is possible. But it's not going to go well
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in the land of Ohio State for Ryan Day if
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they lose this one.
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So what did you end up go picking for your
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score for?
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I went twenty four twenty or twenty four to twenty
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one Ohio State, And now that I'm saying that out loud,
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it feels a little high. But we'll see, you know,
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I there's enough skill players here to do some damage.
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And I don't think either defenses look like they are
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unstoppable or a nonstoppable to.
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Yeah, I went twenty one to seventeen, so I'm glad
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you feel that I'm correct again Ohio State. I entered
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the week thinking I think I'm gonna pick Penn State
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and just kept waiting through the and then you know,
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Leithan Branson being back, that felt like a big you know,
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and he's not officially officially back, but Ryan Day made
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it sound like he's probably back earlier in the week.
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That feels like that's gonna be an impactful piece. If
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they can get the offensive line sorted out. That feels
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like that's gonna be impactful piece. Not having potentially we'll
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see maybe not having denied Dennis Sutton that could help
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the ohiosted offensive line a little bit. All this stuff
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is just it's all real, little fine margin stuff. But
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in the game that's probably gonna come down to one
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play at the end of the game. Ohio State just
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feels like it's like just a little bit more talented
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than Penn State, and it's gonna be a hostile, loud
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crowd that's gonna work in Penn State's favor.
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It's a noon game, not a night game.
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You know. I always say three points for home field advantage.
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I know I've heard people say five six points for
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the white out. Well, if it's five to six points
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in prime time for the white out, maybe it's like
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four at noon for this stadium, and that might be
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the difference. I mean, it's just you're talking real, real,
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fine margins. But it should be a heck of a
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college football game. I know Ohio State fans were not
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thrilled by the outcome of the Oregon game, but man,
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that was a good college football game. This should be
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a really good college football game on Saturday as well.
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Really looking forward to that and really look forward to
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Saturday morning with our pregame show. Let you know, once
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we get the official availability report, who can go, who
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can't go, all that good stuff, we'll have our pregame show,
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talked about all the narratives that are gonna be swirling
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around this game. Oh boy, will there be stuff to
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talk about on that postgame show. Win or Louise for
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both of these teams. Man, is there gonna be some
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stuff to talk about. We'll be at YouTube dot com
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good stuff all at YouTube dot com slash buck I Huddle.
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