The Soverign Mindset: Unlocking Your Divine Potential with author Jeremy McDonald

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Good day everyone, and welcome to the Bringing Inspiration to
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Earth's Show. To find out more about our upcoming shows
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or access to more than fifteen hundred podcast episodes, visit
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our website at www dot Byte Radio dot me. Today,
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my special guest is Jeremy McDonald's, author of the new
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book The Sovereign Mindset Unlock Your Divine Potential. Jeremy is
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a mindset mastery coach, quantum healer, Reiki master, and best
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selling author with more than twenty five years of experience
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bridging the corporate and spiritual worlds. As the executive producer
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of large scale metaphysical events like the Spirit Heart Crews
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and the Inner Temple Symposium, and the host of Mystic
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Dialogue on the serial TV, Jeremy inspires audiences around the
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world to unlock their divine potential. With a master's in
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adult education and a background in learning and development for
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Fortune five hundred companies, he blends practical strategies with spiritual wisdom,
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helping people release deep seated blocks, align with their soul,
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and step fully into their authentic cells. Jeremy's mission is
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to empower humanity to remembrance, healing and inspired action, bridging
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the ancient wisdom with practical tools to help individuals awaken
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their divine potential and live in sovereign truth. For more information,
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you can visit his website, which is Jeremy McDonald dot net.
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That I'd like to welcome Jeremy to the show. Good day, Jeremy, Hey, Robert.
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Thanks for having me on the show. I really appreciate
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it and looking forward to our time together.
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It is my pleasure. And the one thing I like
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about talking with you is that you really provide some
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practical perspectives for people to improve their life. And I'm
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looking forward to today's show absolutely. So we have to
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start with is bringing inspiration to Earth? What inspired you
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to write a sober mindset at this particular time?
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You know, it just kind of came through because it'd
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been like thirteen years since my previous book piece be Still,
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and it just one day had just clipped kind of
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just came through, And it was basically I had to
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live the book before I could, you know, write about it.
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So it's a lot of it's very practical stuff because
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the things that I actually went through, you know, my
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mother transitioned twenty twelve and I had to go through
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that process. Of grieving and all of the other things
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that come along with, you know, not having a parent
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on this planet anymore, and you know, and then all
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of a sudden, the awful depart where we're just out
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there living our lives and you know, you make mistakes,
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you have a lot of successes, you have what we
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deem as failures, but I believe that failures are opportunities
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to grow. So it just at the moment I was
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ready to do it, and it just came through it.
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I always call a divine inspiration where the you know,
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the spirit, your soul and everything just kind of come
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together at one point and you know, it just starts
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flowing out of you. And that was where it came from.
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So it was just an opportunity to finally get all
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those thoughts and feelings I've been speaking about on stages
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and put it on paper.
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Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, and the one thing about
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Tiny is that quite often you have to live a
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certain experience before you get to the point of being
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able to write about it.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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So what would you say, just I know, the whole
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book is about the Sobeurn mindset, but for listeners to
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get an idea of what you mean, can you kind
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of give us like a high level view of what
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the sovereign mindset is?
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Absolutely? Yeah. So the sovereign mindset is about taking responsibility
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and accountability for your own life. And it's also about
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that moment where that body, mind, and soul start working
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together and flow with each other. So when you start
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taking responsibility for your life as opposed to having your
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energy over it, you know, wherever it could be, you know,
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with your family that maybe didn't wasn't nice to you,
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when your kid, or some person that was mean to
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you in school, or you know that boss that you
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didn't get along with in your energies, in those places
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that disempower you. And it's finally that moment where you say, no,
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I don't have to live based on that energy anymore,
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and I can bring my energy into my center and
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I can finally marry then the inner world and live
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in this sovereignty where I'm you know, I get to
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live my life and flow with the energy of the
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universe and the who I was born to be. And
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so to me, the sovereign mindset and that came up
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because I kept on witnessing these moments. I mean, we've
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all had these moments of attracting the world around us,
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and we see these moments where we're like, Wow, that
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really just happened, and we're just so excited. Well, I
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started looking at that over and over again, and I
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started thinking, what is that? What is it that made
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that different than this other time that I wanted something
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and it didn't happen. And you know, I just and
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I tell a lot of stories in there about those
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moments where I'm you know, I just I need wanted
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something to happen. I put an intention out there, I
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started acting on it. It's almost like it's almost like
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I magically just came in and I was like, what
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was that all about? Well, it was about that moment
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where you're in a vibrational match with what you're looking
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for because you're living in your truth, you're living in
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your sovereignty, and so I I just call it the
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sovereign mindset because that's really what it's all about, is
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really ruling and understanding and living in alignment with your body,
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mind and soul.
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Yeah, well that makes sense. And you mentioned about you know,
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those moments. You know that one was experience that can
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sometimes be extraordinary. But in the book, you also say
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that that the ordinary living moments are just as profound
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as the as the mystical. So you know, for people
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who don't have those mystical moments, we should revel in
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the ordinary.
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Yeah. So a lot of people look at all these
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amazing moments, like I had to share death experience with
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my mother, and I've been interviewed about it and everybody's like, oh,
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that's great, and it was, it was great. But that
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also those moments where I've made major mistakes in my
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life and by the realms of what the world of
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man says, where I've made a wrong decision and you know,
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lost a lot of money or better stated a relationship
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longer than I should have instead of moving, or not
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spoke my truth and and you know, address my boundaries.
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And so you start to look at those and you
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start saying, well, those are just as profound as the
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shared death experience or these opportunities or these areas where
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people consider them magical. And I'm like, well, all those
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things in your life help you grow is a soul.
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And so for those that don't have those what people
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deem this mystical or magical moments, trust me, you're having them.
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Really pay attention to every aspect of your life and
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trust and when I when I say this, you're really
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going to see a life that's a lot more fully
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enriched and a lot more fully engaging. And so that's
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why I start. I started to look at that, because
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we're we're always looking for those cool aha moments or
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these profound shifts or these mystical moments. But every moment
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of every day is magical, and it's an opportunity for
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your soul to grow and really understand who you are
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and living in your heart. And so I started noticing
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where I was, you know, as a healer, I was
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constantly trying to fix everybody, you know, constantly trying to
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help everybody. And so I started looking at that, and
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I started thinking, well, that's not necessarily living in my
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sovereignty if it goes against what I know to be true.
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So if I'm trying to help this person and give
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them advice but they never listen, and I know I
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need to walk away, and I keep on doing it.
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To me, that's ordinary living and saying, you know, that's
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a boundary. I'm not going to continue crossing this line
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if they're not ready to hear it, and it's not
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always about them disrespecting you. It's also about them just
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being ready to hear what you have to say. Yeah,
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because they're just not that that vibrational match with what
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you're looking at are talking about then, you know, And
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so it's just one of those things where I'm sure
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we've all been in those jobs where you don't feel
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appreciated or valued, or situations where you don't feel appreciated
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or valued, and you know you need to walk away,
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and we don't we hold on. Well, that's going That's
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what we talk about in the book, because that's going
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against yourself.
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Yeah, yeah, that's you know, that's important for me. It
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used to be a lot lot more challenging for the
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letting go and walking away just because I wanted to help.
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But then, like you say, you know, if the person
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is not ready to hear or to act on any
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information they received from using, you're really not doing anyone
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any favors.
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Yeah. Well, the other thing is is that if you're
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going against yourself and harming you, how are you leading
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my example to the person that you're trying to help.
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You're trying to show them, don't go against yourself and
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don't go against your soul, but you're doing the same
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thing by trying to help them. And even though they
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don't consciously know that you are you were doing that,
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they can energetically feel it on some level. Yeah, and so,
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and it's just one of those things when somebody's living
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really in alignment, and that now at the moment and
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in balance, you can start to really seem you can
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start to feel and see that, hey, this person is
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really authentic, and you can hear it in their energy
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and feel it in their energy. And if these people
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aren't really conscious of energy, even at a subconscious level,
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they can they can understand it and feel it.
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Yeah, yeah, you know. That's the one thing too that
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I've noticed is that some people who are authentic really
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live a life in alignment, you know, with you know,
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their true and many, like you see, some people may
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not even understand the idea behind energy and how it
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all works. And actually, for me, it seems that those
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people are extra special because they're you know, living the
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life without the effort of having to, you know, try
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and make kinds of good decisions. That they're doing it naturally.
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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Now, you mentioned briefly about your the shared death experience
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with your mother. I don't know if many people have
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heard of the idea of a shared death experience, So
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can you share with us you know exactly what that was.
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Yeah, so that it's actually similar to a near death
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experience and a sense where you actually experience some of
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the sensations of what a soul goes through when they're
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dying and leaving their leaving their physical body. And so
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in my case, what happened is I was in my
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mother's hospice room and when she transitioned and left her body,
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I felt my body, my energy pull out of my
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body at the same time. And very shortly after that,
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I had somebody tap me on the shoulder, one of
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the nurses and saying, mister McDonald, your mother has passed.
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And that pulled me in my back and my body
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just enough to be conscious and you know, get up
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and walk around. But I have the sensation of actually
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leaving my body. And so that's the partial of that.
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And then for about a week after that, I was
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I was you know, we had a memorial and I
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actually had an experience where I could hear her all
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week talking to me. I could hear her because I
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was literally in the middle of writing my first book,
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piece b Still, and I heard her say, well, I
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already know what she wrote in that book, Jre, because
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I thought, you're never going to get to see my book,
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and all these things were going on, and I was
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just excited for her. You know, we want to have
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our parents to be proud of us. And well, I
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was after her memorial and she stepped into my body
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and she said, this is what heaven feels like. And
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I lost all sensation of pain or anxiety, and it
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felt like I was the drop of a notion. And
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so it was just such a cool experience. And what
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it did for me is opened me up to new possibilities.
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Because then what she said is I left my body
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because I needed to teach you, and I could teach
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you better on this side, how to get in touch
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with your feminine side. And now that seems to be
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a really touchy subject for certain men. But we have
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to have a balance between the divine feminine and divine
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masculine within ourselves so that we can, hey, you know,
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have a flow of energy and be in touch with
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our emotions on a healthy level and also, you know,
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be able to still act and live in this world.
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So that was the shared death experience. And I didn't
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even know what it was, to be quite honest with you,
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until the memorial came along. Somebody said, doctor Raymond Moody
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is going to be in town next month and you
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should go. And I actually didn't. I didn't even know
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who Raymond Moody was at the time, but I went,
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and I went to a seminar and ended up he
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started talking. I asked a questions about what happened. So
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it sounds like you had a shared death experience. And
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I went up to him and talked to him afterwards,
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got his email address, and then he was on my show,
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and you know, we started interacting with each other over
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the last you know, thirteen years, and so I learned
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more about what a shared death experience was, and that
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this sensation has happened to a lot of people, and
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you know, and and they don't really fully understand what's happened. Well,
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what's happened is they've kind of experienced it because of
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their closeness to that person or other various reasons that
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they had an experience of the dying process or the
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transition process of a soul. Leaving their physical body.
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Wow, then must have been really some experience. Now you
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indicated that to that experience, when someone goes through something
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like that, that it's really important to be able to
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use that experience to better ourselves. So how in which
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way our ways did that experience improve you or make
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them you better?
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what a lot of people do when we talk about
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the near death experience and share death experiences, they get
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caught up on this that I'm you know, you got
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a taste of what heaven feels like, and here's the reality.
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We can have heaven here on earth. And the truth is,
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so it's our attachments to things that really get to
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hung up. And so when we get attached to something
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like one of my things was, like I was saying earlier,
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I wanted to heal somebody or help somebody, or you know,
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attached to how people should be, my expectations of how
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they should be. And you know, one of the things
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that taught me is that if I don't have I
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can love people and not be attached to the outcome
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or even my dreams. I can have dreams and act
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on them and not be always attached to the outcome.
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started letting things go with my friends and loved ones
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and started working on myself, really working on loving myself
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on a deeper level, finding even more peace in my life.
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I was projecting out to the world, looking at my
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own insecurities. And so when I started looking on that,
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I noticed that the people that I love they started changing.
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them or give them advice or expected them to change.
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I just noticed that as I worked on myself, they
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started working on themselves and energetically. That's happening, is that
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I started what I knew and I know happenings. They
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started seeing me changed. They started seeing me get happier.
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They started seeing me not react to things. They started
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seeing me become more proactive. They started seeing me act
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on dreams and work hard on them and have perseverance
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and continued and never to give up. And then they
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started seeing my health get better and act on those things,
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and really started working on myself, and they started me
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and then I would admit that I made those mistakes.
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doing the same things. And so what that sheer death
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experience did for me is because heaven is about slow
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and so it's it's it we're constantly flowing in and
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out and as about so below and like I mentioned,
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I was like a drop in an ocean. So an
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ocean doesn't sit there and try to hold on to
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the surface of the beach. It doesn't say no, I
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need to hold on to this. It flows in and
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it flows out, and it flows in and it flows out.
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It doesn't try to pull Europe towards the United States.
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it pushes back, and it flows back, but it's never
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it's never harmful. And then it may take some of
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the ground with it because it flows in and out.
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And this really gets down into science, and so you
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start looking at them and you start saying, well, if
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I'm a part of this, if we're all one, then
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why am I continuing to hold hold on to situations?
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And then it goes into and says we start to
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look at things and people that you love and care
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about and you have to let go of them, and
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you're reminded that if they're in my divine plan, then
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I can't lose them. They may be gone for three
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or four years, they may be gone for a day,
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they be gone for a week, or hey, they may
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just be around all the time. And I've watched my
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friends and my connections and the people I love, I've
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watched them not only grow, but I've also you know,
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some of them, I've not as close to where I
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used to see them every day, but we still love
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each other. But our lives have changed, We've grown, we've
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become different people. And so I was in my late
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thirties when my mother passed away. I'm in my fifties now,
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and I start to you start to look at how
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this energy works. And I feel more energetic and more
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youthful now at fifty one, almost fifty two years old
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than I did in my late thirties. And so what
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that shared death experience showed me is eternal life comes
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with allowing and acting in the moments that you're supposed to.
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Divine timing, divine order, divine time make it easy and
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so and when you really look at that, then that's
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just life all around. So I can make I can
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either live in hell down here or I can live
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in heaven. But what ends up happening A lot of
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times people start to they always look into the future
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because they don't want to experience what's going on now,
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or they're so far in the past because they're still
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living in the trauma that they've experienced in the past.
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And the only way to create and live in a
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sovereign mindset is to be in this now, in the moment. Yeah,
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So that's that's what that fhaired death experience taught me.
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And when she mentioned living, you know more in my
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divine feminine and being in balance with my divine masculine,
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it means that at times, when there's a dance I
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call it the dance with God, the male aspects leads,
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but the female aspect flows, and when the male dips her,
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you know, down in the in the tango or whatever
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the ballroom dancing, she allows and then she creates. And
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as he as she folds and allows, he's inspired with
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strength to hold her and protect her. And so there's
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but it's a flow. It is not a domination, It
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is not a it is not anything other than these
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two souls are merging and flowing together. Well, it's the
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two aspects of you that are flowing. And so that's
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what that shared death experience showed me. And I could
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use I could probably go along with metaphors for the
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forty five minutes, but you know, it's it's it's really
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just you have to find that inside of yourself.
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Yeah, yeah, I stand. Now. One more thing about your mother.
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She was learn is Simon and she did influence and
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the teaching of in lack Lacket and Latche. Okay, thank you.
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I knew I was gonna What is that? So tell
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us what that is and how has that affected you?
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Quite simply, it just means I am another you. So
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your main name might be Robert, my name might be Jeremy,
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but on a spiritual and soulful level, that's our physical
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human names. But truthfully, we're a part of something even greater,
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and inside is an entire universe inside of you, and
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inside is an entire universe inside of me, and we're
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connected at a spiritual and soulful level. And so when
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I look at another person and I make a judgment
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about them, then what I'm doing is I'm judging myself
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because chances are, whatever it is i'm judging in them,
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I've got going on inside of myself. So here's where
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we get into the physical world the spiritual world, is
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that we're all energetically, we're basically the same inside. But
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if we look at who we are on the physical level,
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I've got insecurities, you've got insecurities. I make mistakes, You
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make mistakes, And what are those mistakes? Are they really mistakes?
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Are the opportunities for each one of us to grow.
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The veil is covered over us so that we can
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fully see everything on a physical level, but on a
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soulful level, we can see greatness and we can see
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into the infinity. So when she taught me and mcsh
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it started, I started looking at the world and saying, well,
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wait a second, even down to the trees and everything else,
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when you go on an energetic level, the animals, they're
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at an energetic level. We're all just pure energy. And
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so what the Mayans we're trying to say is that
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you know, we are always looking at other people in
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what they're doing. And when we do that, when I'm
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looking at another man or a woman and saying, oh,
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what are they doing well, then I'm missing the opportunity
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to look at side of myself. I'm in their garden
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of Eden, so speak, and mine's got all these like
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weeds growing, and I'm not mowing the lawn over here.
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I'm over picking and pruning yours when that's your job.
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So yeah, well, you know, and there's so much judgment
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that that we sometimes just fall into that we really,
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you know, should sometimes take a step back if we
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find ourselves judging a person or a situation and just
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kind of kind of look, you know, within what what
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is it that has us, you know, examining this particular
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action or person and passing judgment.
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Yeah, when you really think about it too, like, uh,
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I I just empower myself by being a judgment of you.
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So I'm busy over here work, uh you know, judging you,
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and I'm missing the opportunity to live my life fully. Yeah,
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and so uh what's the old saying, uh not my
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self thout my monkey, I mean, and it's it's it's
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it's the human part of us to be too busy
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in your your area. But I'm missing all this opportun
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I need to live over here. Yeah.
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Yeah, now you talk in your book about having gone
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through the dark Knight of the soul, and I know
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that kind of serious person, can you? And right now,
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with so many challenges happening for people, they may be
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right in the middle of that dark night. So can
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you tell us, like, how would you explain that particular
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state of being? And you know, how did that shape
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your your path in your books?
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You know what I want to say to everybody is
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if you're going to that hard time, and that's what
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the dark kind of soul is. It's one of the
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very intense. Almost everything feels like the whole world is
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working against you, everything is happening. What I want to
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say to you is that this too shall pass. And
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they may seem like the worst of the worst. I mean,
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losing my mother was losing my best friend, and in
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a sense that was in the physical sense. But who
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I've become, the man I've become in that thirteen years
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since I lost her, the experiences I've had, the ability
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and the strength that I've gotten as a result of
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her not being around is then profound. And so this
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too show pass means that this, yeah, right now, it
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kind of you might be going through something that really
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doesn't feel good. And I can guarantee you if you
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look inside and start looking at what's going on, and
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start building those new building blocks on there and building
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a foundation on there, you'll look back at your dark
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Knight of the soul and why you went through it,
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because I had to shake the tree up and build
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you strong. And so my first dark ny of the soul,
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my biggest one, was in two thousand and six. I
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built this entire illusion about my life. I was a
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vice president of a mortgage company. I had this job
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and this idol and all these kind of things, and
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I needed all those things because I didn't really feel
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good about myself. So I built this a house of cards,
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so to speak. And that house of cards was knocked
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over because there was no foundation built on rock. And many,
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many years later I went through something similar. At that time,
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I didn't fall aparts because my foundation was built on rock.
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necessarily have what people would deem as a dark Knight
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of the soul because inside I was strong emotionally, energetically, spiritually, physically.
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And we're gonna in the here's the reality you're never
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going to escape in your life adversity. You're never gonna
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escape challenges. And I have people all the time tell
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me I can't wait to get off this planet. Well,
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I had to break it to you. Either you're going
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to experience it now and learn from it and grow
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from it, or you're gonna experience it later. And we
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have this great thing called a repeat program. It's called reincarnation.
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And so if you miss it this time, you keep
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on coming back, and keep on coming back, and keep
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on coming back until you get the lessons. You're never
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going to escape the lesson, and so embrace those lessons,
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walk towards them, allow them in. And so the dark
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Member's soul, what it did for me is it started
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to make me realize, well, wait a second, this is
483
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a blessing. It's not a curse. It's something that's saying
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to my soul, I know you're ready for this. I
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know you're ready to go through this so you can
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really alchemize your energy into something stronger. And so that's
487
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that's where And I'm very passionate about this because people
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00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:49.519
run from adversity, and I say, run towards it. Run
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towards it so you can get stronger. It's no different
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than going to the gym lifting weights or you know.
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Over the past year, I've been walking about two and
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a half miles a day, you know, and people will
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give me all kinds of reasons why they can't so
494
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it's too hot outside. I'm like, you know, all these
495
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kind of things. Will do something. So I finally had
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a client. I said, she goes, I physically can't do it.
497
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.920
I said, well, what I want you to do is
498
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I want you to just do minor stretches while you're
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watching TV. I want you to stretch your foot and
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stretch it out and then stand up and sit down.
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And within about six months she changed her whole issues
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with mobility at a tremendous level. She had a lot,
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about twenty to thirty percent more mobility than she did
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six months prior to that. Because you have to start somewhere,
505
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.079
because we look at this big mountain. So the drukness
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of the soul said to me, in order to get
507
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.960
out of that a hole, I was in such a depression.
508
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.319
I just moved myself from the bed to the couch,
509
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and then the couch to the shower and put clothes on.
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But that was an accomplishment because if you can start
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building forward momentum and then the universe starts creating momentum
512
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and energy towards your life. But if you just sit
513
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.920
and stay stagnant, the universal said, well, okay, we're going
514
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to be stagnant. And so that's the Doctor of the
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Soul told me. It was a blessing for me. I'm
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you know, at the time, I didn't think it was
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a blessing. I thought it was a nightmare. But the
518
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truth is is that it helped me grow up.
519
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So yeah, you know, and for me, one of the
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lessons during that period was surrendered, you know, to and
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basically gives it over, you know, to the high power
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to help direct me. You know. I found that was
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for me a way to make life a little bit brighter,
524
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you know. And the fact that I didn't have to
525
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control everything in order to make life work.
526
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Yeah, And I mean it's something we all have to
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go through.
528
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Yeah, and like to look at it in the rear
529
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:10.720
view mirror right now. One of the things you talk
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about in your book two is about hidden programs of
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00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.519
the mind in how they can hold us back or
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00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.599
prevent us from living authentically. So can you talk a
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little bit about those hidden programs.
534
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.839
Yeah, this is something I've been looking at for a
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long time, but really in the beginning of COVID, I
536
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.000
really started looking at it. And it happened because I
537
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.440
have the self this energy of tug pole tug pole
538
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.039
going out in my life where I had my one
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friend group of friends that believed a certain way, and
540
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then I had another group of friends that believe this way,
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and another group of friends that believe this way. And
542
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I started looking at wait a second, everybody thinks they're right,
543
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and nobody's willing to just be quiet enough to listen.
544
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And so then I started looking at back at my
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life and how I was living my life life, and
546
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I started saying, well, wait a second, is that my
547
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.519
thought or is that somebody else's thought? Is it something
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my thought? Or is it some movie that I watched
549
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.960
thought or some politician or some you know, church that
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I went to or whatever. And I really had to
551
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.640
get authentic with my thoughts and started saying, is that
552
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really true for me? And you know, I'm not gonna
553
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.480
lie to you. When I started going through this process,
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people started leaving my life. And and there's a reason.
555
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Because I started saying this, I don't see it that
556
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:35.039
way anymore, and they would get mad because if what
557
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I've found is that people are not secure in their
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own beliefs, that means that's because they're full of their
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00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.039
own programs, and they don't even one hundred percent believe
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what they're telling you. And so when you when they
561
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.759
don't believe what they're telling you, then they're not strong
562
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:56.839
inside energetically. So the programs are all those little things
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that have been told to you that don't belong to
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you energetically, and those thoughts. And so what I started
565
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:09.160
to look at is that if it's not my thoughts,
566
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then why am I living by other people's rules and
567
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other people's ideas. And so it just really significantly changed
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how I started living. And and so, like you know,
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I have a I started I look at the world
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vastly differently than I even did two years ago or
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five years ago. And you know, like people say to
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me all the time that you know, you have to
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live by certain rules, you know, because I'm a metaphysician,
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you know, and I have to you know, And I
575
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came when I became a ranking master. He said, you
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have to place your hands a certain way in order
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to do ranking and said, well, that's not what I'm feeling,
578
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and so and what I ran, what I realized is
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that there's an inner voice inside of me that's guiding me.
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And in those that inner voices like your feelings, the
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ones that feel super authentic. And I started living by
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that more than one of all the rules of whatever
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other people were saying to me. And then I started
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fining boundaries with people and saying, you know, it's not
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okay when you do that, you know, And so I
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and a lot of my programs came from my church
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that I was raised in, or you know, my grandmother,
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who was very well intended, and she had very she
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00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.480
had very various rules about what was considered to be
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polite or not polite, or you know, here's the one
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that a lot of people follow. In order to see hip,
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I have to wear these certain labels or these certain clothes.
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You know, there's nothing wrong with those things. I have
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no judgment if somebody wants to wear a Paragucci sunglasses,
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but if it doesn't feel lot. If you're doing it
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because you want to impress people, then you're living by
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00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.559
somebody else's rules. But if you do it because it
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00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:59.000
makes you feel good. You know, there's nothing wrong with
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a woman putting on me, but she doesn't want to
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do it. Why does she have to? So?
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Yeah, you know, we it seems that as we, you know,
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grow up, especially in those formative years, that we quite
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often you know, pick up the the beliefs the others
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00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:24.800
surround us, and you know, make them our own. And
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you know, that's the time before we really even have
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any kind of discernment to be able to recognize whether
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or not those beliefs resonate at all.
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00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.480
Yeah, but I mean I had, I had, I been recently,
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I had with my own business. I made a decision
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about it, and somebody didn't really like it. They didn't
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make the decision I made, and they they got really upset,
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and they told me how upset what they were, And
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I said, you know, I love you, but that's about you,
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00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.920
that's not about me. And they got really angry and
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they they haven't spoken to me, and well, I guess
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about five months now. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean
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I love them any less. I do love them. And
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somebody will say some people say, well do you think
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you can said that a little bit nicer? No, because
620
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there's nothing unrude about saying to a person those emotions
621
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are about you, because that moment was a passive, aggressive
622
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moment to try to get me to feel bad so
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I would see it their way. I didn't see it
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their way. And these are the kind of Those are
625
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:33.000
the kind of programs I'm talking about. And when my mind,
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when I have somebody else's voice in my head that's
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telling me to live, it's not mine, and I don't
628
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agree with it, but it doesn't resonate with my soul.
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And I mentioned in the book too, I mentioned Isaiah
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two twenty two, and they said, don't believe a man
631
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or a woman that breached through the nostrils. I don't
632
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.039
know anybody on this planet that doesn't breathe through their nostrils.
633
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And some people will say, well, who do you listen to?
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You listen to your inner voice. You listen to the
635
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.039
divine that's within you. And when you listen to that,
636
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.400
then you start. And if it's something that somebody says
637
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.880
resonates with that, then of course follow it. But if
638
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.199
it doesn't, and that means that all of us may
639
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.599
have a different path and a different way of looking
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00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.119
at life as long as we're not hurting other people,
641
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than what does it matter? Sure?
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Well, now in your book you have exercises for people,
643
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and I was wondering if she might be able to
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share one that many health listener begin to align with
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00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.159
their souls. There why I need to start that process.
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00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.480
The biggest thing I can recommend everybody is I call
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I don't even call a meditation. Any might call it
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hanging out with yourself. And it's because the word meditation
649
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.079
freaks people out. And so what I'm going to say
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to you is every night, or at least, start off
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with five minutes, and all I want you to do
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00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:58.800
is breathe in through your nose and I fail out
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00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.639
to your bath, breathe in your nose, the next through
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your mouth. And here's the reason why. Because deep breathing
655
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literally puts your brain wave into a gamma frequency. When
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it goes into a gamma frequency, what ends up happening
657
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.079
is that as you start looking at things, and then
658
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I want you in that five minutes just to process
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your day. I want you to stay in your world.
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Show me my day, what were my opportunities to grow
661
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.480
and what were my my uh basically my successes of
662
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:31.280
the day. You know, you may have a situation where
663
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:34.079
your boss did something, you really took it personally, and
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you may not have said anything, but you really took
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it personally, and so you start to look at that
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00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.239
and you start to say, what made that? How did
667
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.280
that make me feel? Well? They made me feel undervalued,
668
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.079
They made me feel disrespected, And then you can ask
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yourself the question, well, do you really feel disrespected in yourself?
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Do I is this somewhere in myself where I don't
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respect myself? Because the truth is is that your boss
672
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may not have value you. You're valued you in that
673
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.639
moment because they don't value themselves. They had the self
674
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the need to make themselves look stronger instead of being
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in flow and working as a team all that kind
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of stuff. And so excuse me. The moment of just
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deep breathing is going to start to relax your mind
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enough to where you can allow those I call them
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beach balls underwater. So like those beach balls kind of surface,
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and there's a whole bunch of things that you've been
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trying to hold down since you were a kid. Those
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00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.320
are those programs in your mind. And when you start,
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when you start to deep breathe, they'll start surfacing in
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a controlled environment because those beach balls are coming out
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no matter lot. So people that I want to go
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to that I want to go down there looking because
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what's going on in my brain, I don't want to
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look at it. Well, the truth is they're either going
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to come out and you're going to react to them
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at a wrong time. Or you can do this deep
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breathing for five minutes a day, review your day and
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look at what's going on and so and then he
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expanded ten minutes, and then he expanded the third twenty minutes,
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and then you know, so on and so on. Now
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I'm up to three hours a day and it's to
696
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or I spend the very end of the day is
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mine for me, and I just literally sit there and
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spend time with myself because there is an energy and
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we'll talk about this in the book, that there is
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a part of you that's literally begging for you to
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spend time with it and so and what that means
702
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.559
is that there's a whole other being in there, it's
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called your soul that's begging for you to spend time
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breathing and living and experiencing and developing a relationship with
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it and it feels and it feels not heard. So
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if you don't feel heard by your boss, it's because
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there's a part of you inside that doesn't feel heard
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from you. And so when you start to really get
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deep in there, and then that's what this book is
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all about. It's having a deep enriching relationship inside of you.
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When you have that, that's where your foundation builds on
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rock and you will really see a fundamental difference on
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how you interact with people. And those boundaries we talked
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about at the beginning of the show, they don't become
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a bad thing. They become something to be joyful about.
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And then you when when you want to help somebody,
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00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.800
it's because you'll help them when your cup is full.
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Whatever spilled over is what you share with other people. Yeah.
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I like the idea of framing it, you know, hanging
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out with yourself, because you know, when you talk about
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meditation and that kind of thing, it really you create
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some image in the mind. It can be, you know,
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just so overwhelming for some people who want to try.
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But the idea is just hanging with yourself. Is I
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think anybody can.
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Relate to that. Yeah, let me even just one more
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thought to that because one of the things people are
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going to say is, well, I can't call my mind
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and I have to break into you. That's exactly what's
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going to happen in the beginning. You're not gonna be
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calm your mind right at the beginning, You're just a
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deep breathe, and all this thing's going to surface, all
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that anxiety, all the picking up your phone and all
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that other kind of stuff, It is going to be there.
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But when that happens, that's when you push even harder,
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because what you're saying to your in a world is
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all these distractions are not as important as me trying
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to have a relationship with you. And so you have
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to start practicing disciplining yourself. And it is going to happen.
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You're going to struggle with it in the beginning, and
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that's okay, give yourself grace.
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Yeah, absolutely, Well this has really been a great conversation, Jeremy.
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So what do you hope that people reads are going
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to take away from reading the soburn mindset.
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I'm really hoping to start a movement of people really
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understanding who they are on a deeper level, understanding the soul,
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having a relationship with themselves, because I can guarantee you
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we have a deep, soulful relationship with ourselves, all this
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mess that you see going on up side will start
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fundamentally changing because there will be no way that all
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of us will allow us to be devalued underestimated. We won't,
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we won't even put ourselves in those situations, and we
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will give love because we'll have loved ourselves. And so
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that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for people to
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find such a deep and profound love for themselves that
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they start operating in the sovereign mindset. And then they'll
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start seeing the world I have experience, not only the
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magical things, but the everyday things. They'll start seeing it
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unfold in their lives and they'll just see like, wow,
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this is so cool, and and then you won't be
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seeing the mess that you see out there right now.
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And that's that's what I'm hoping to see.
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Well, that's great, and you know it is. Your book offers,
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you know, so much insight and as well as the
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exercises for people that kind of start that process themselves.
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So well, Jimmy, I really want to say thank you
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for your time today. It's really been a delight and
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been far too long since we spoke, but I am
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glad that you did today.
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Thank you so much Robert for having me. I really
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do appreciate it, and I hope everybody enjoys the interview
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in the book very much.
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So again, everyone, today, my special guest has been Jeremy McDonald,
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author of The Sovereign Mindset Unlocking your Divine Potential, and
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again you can find out more by visiting Jeremy's website
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which is Jeremy McDonald dot net. And everyone a month
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to thank you for joining us for this edition of
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the Bringing Inspiration to her show, and remember to be
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a bright light by bringing inspirations to your world into
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the lives of those you touch.