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Artificial intelligence is not simply making software developers more productive. It is changing which skills have value, how teams are structured, and how many people are needed to perform work that once required years of technical specialization.
In this candid conversation, Charles Fry, founder and CEO of digital product studio CODE Éxitos, describes what he calls the ”Post-Coding Era”. As AI automates more traditional development work, specialized skills that once provided security and professional identity are becoming increasingly commoditized. For many people, that shift is not theoretical. It represents the loss of roles, careers, and a familiar path forward.
But this is not only a conversation about displacement.
Charles and host Brian Gorman explore the work emerging on the other side: systems thinking, empathy, discernment, mentoring, leadership, and the ability to direct both human teams and AI systems. They consider the rise of the “player-coach,” the future of middle management, and the responsibility leaders carry for integrating technology without treating people as an afterthought.
Charles also shares how CODE Éxitos has moved beyond traditional office structures and 9-to-5 schedules, building a distributed organization around mastery, autonomy, purpose, and “la vida plena,” living a full life.
The future Charles describes is uncertain, and the transition will be painful for many. Yet it also offers the possibility of designing work around distinctly human capabilities rather than preserving structures built for an earlier era.
In This Episode
- Why Charles believes software development has entered a Post-Coding Era
- What happens when deeply developed technical skills become commoditized
- How systems thinkers and player-coaches may replace some traditional roles
- Why discernment, empathy, mentoring, and leadership are becoming more important
- How flexible, distributed work can support both client value and a fuller human life
About Charles
Charles Fry is the Founder and CEO of CODE Éxitos, a digital product studio building software and hardware products for mid-market and enterprise companies, specializing in cyber-physical systems — where software meets the real world: sensors, IoT, computer vision, and beyond — as well as full-stack web, mobile, cloud, and SaaS development. “We are in the post-coding era. AI has fundamentally changed how software gets built, and most companies haven’t caught up. I’ve spent 25+ years building software companies and teams — and I’m focused on helping organizations navigate this shift.”
About Brian
Brian Gorman is an executive advisor, author, speaker, coach, and host of Beyond AI: Wisdom at Work. He works at the intersection of artificial intelligence and human wisdom, helping CEOs, founders, boards, and senior leadership teams think clearly about AI, change, decision-making, culture, trust, and the future of work. His book, Leading into the Age of Wisdom: Reimagining the Future of Work, explores how leaders can move beyond intelligence alone and bring deeper wisdom to the decisions shaping people, organizations, and society.
To Continue the Conversation
If anything you hear in this podcast sparks a conversation you want to have or a question you want to explore, reach out.
Charles
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-c-fry/
Email: charles.fry@codexitos.com
Company website: www.codexitos.com
Brian
Email: Brian@TransformingLives.Coach
Phone: +1 917.653.5198
Website: TransformingLives.Coach
