Rewiring the Narrative: Spinal Energetics, Subconscious Healing, and the Power of Safety with Varushka Del Rio

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey guys, it's your girl Jennifer, and to reach total clarity, you have to support your body physically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi guys, it's your girl Jennifer and welcome to unscripted 2.0 today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited about my guest Rosca Del Rio, the founder of Venturary Healing Center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's an expert in spinal and her deadets in hit no therapy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, her work at Venturary is something which truly have to experience fully to understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What makes today's conversation special is Verushka and I are actually teamy up for a collaborative event on January 15.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to use this episode to pull back the curtains unconscious healing and give you all the previews of the tools we'll be using to transform the body, mind, and soul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you stay tuned at the very end of the episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you heard that you have to listen to the whole episode where we'll be sharing more details on exactly how you can join us in person on the 15th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Verushka, thank you so much for giving us a bit of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much, Jennifer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited to be here today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, we connected several months ago, where I had the pleasure of being a part of your five-year anniversary on 1111.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I had that experience, it was the first time I had the experience where I actually went through the offering that you share in Zenshwery as final energetic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I need nothing about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so after that evening, I mean, I was really blown away and I said, I have to connect to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to collaborate with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I need to have a conversation with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So why don't you, I want to start with the origin story of what led you to really developing this healing center for people in our community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that you started the nutrition, but focusing now in
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a long story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a long journey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My personal journey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I started to experience panic attacks when I was about 20 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bad panic attacks, habilitating panic attacks, where it got to the point where I became a more full-bick and I wouldn't meet the house really intense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I became very interested in, I started my healing journey really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I went to the doctor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They put me on medication.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They told me I was having panic attacks, but that only really helped a little bit of
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[SPEAKER_01]: physical symptoms and nobody could answer what was actually happening inside of me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So from there, I started to research, okay, well, you know, let me see, let me change my eating habits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I got into nutrition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I started to exercise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That started to help me so much, but I was still getting the panic attacks, which was horrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the very first time I really started to feel
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I started to meditate, I started to notice that that anxious fight or flight feeling actually started to dissipate and I started to feel more grounded in my body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the key where I said, okay, now we're getting to something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that unraveled a whole world of information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really started to get into our brain, our body mind, our behavior, and one thing
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love, and it's so interesting because of the experience that you had, you went ahead and made it a life calf for you, which I find so, you know, so fascinating and it's kind of similar to why I chose to create this space where I could speak to people about their own journeys and what they turned their journeys in is really a radical self discovery is really how I'm looking at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the process of where we are today and just even conversations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for you, it was self discovery which led you to your career path and what you were meant to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I honestly, I love that about the whole experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I thought it was so important for you to share that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because sometimes we go into things without having the experience and I think it truly makes it more of a connection when you've felt it and you had the experience and you're offering it to the world like this works for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's what I did deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so because I felt so through, I think there is a disparity in, in the, the Western world as we call it with medicine and then body mind connection, we're treated a lot of times when we go to the doctor just physical body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and there's so much more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, I felt like I was never validated or seen every time I would go to the doctor and say, well, what is actually happening in my body?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When are these planning attacks going away?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was used to, like, if you take a medicine, it's for a period of time and then it, you're healed, but they couldn't answer it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that quest for me was so important and I wanted to make sure to create a space where people can come in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And doesn't just have to be panic attacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's whatever physical challenge or a mental challenge they're experiencing that they're validated because a lot of times I wasn't, that they're validated they're seeing their herd, and they have the safe space to be able to start their healing journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to take a step back for a second because you do have, um, you have a sanctuary in Fort Lee, like I said in Burton County, New Jersey, but you also have a background.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what did you, what is your training and just so everybody understands?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you do a lot of different things besides the spinal energetics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what exactly, um, is your, is your discipline and
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I started in 2015 in nutrition and I was actually a teacher before that, but that's a whole other whole other life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I started in nutrition and I started health coaching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, I when I started to learn, okay, there's so much more and I really became interested in the nervous system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I trained in meditation, transcendental meditation, then I trained in hypnotherapy and neurologistic programming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that took me a lot deeper into understanding the subconscious mind, where we create all of these programs and that we run these patterns, these cycles are processes, the associations that we have, which is really, our brain, our subconscious mind is like the hard drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of our operating system, like a computer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's where all of our behaviors come from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where that's the key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we learn how to work with that and be patterned and change that, that's when for me, anyway, the real healing happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk a little bit about the hypnosis piece of it because I think most people that think of this stage, they hear hypnosis and I just think that some people could say, well, what does that feel like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's fear behind that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've actually never been hypnotized before on which is interesting and I've always wanted to experience that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But can you talk a little bit about the idea of maybe losing control versus a deep empowerment when it comes to that hypnosis
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first thing is, and I experienced this myself, the first time I went for a hypnosis session because I wanted to get rid of these panic attacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In my mind, I thought I'm that they were going to swing that little pendulum in front of my face, put me to sleep, erase that part of my brain, and I will never experience that again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no truth to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you see in the movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: hypnosis is actually an extremely natural state and we are in that state many times throughout the day, particularly when we first wake up when we're about to go to sleep, we're in hypnosis and all that is is that our brain waves slow down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for example, you and I right now, we're speaking and our brains are in beta bring waves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that means that analytical mind is working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as I'm talking to you, you're analyzing questioning, is this true?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I believe this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's beta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we get into when we experience, when we say we're in the zone,
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you get really creative and you kind of forget about your surroundings and time passes, then we go in, that's also brain waves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, our brain waves slow down a little more, and that analytical mind starts to turn off a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we get lost in time, and we're so concentrated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we go a little deeper and slow down to brain waves, even a little bit more, we go into data brain waves, and that's hypnosis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what that is, like, very similar to where alpha drives, and we start daydreamy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we get to our location, but we get to our location on the autopilot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's hypnosis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we never lose control, we're always in control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can open your eyes, you know, you know what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just that, that brain wave state is so important because it's like we open the doors to the subconscious mind, that filter, that analyzes turns off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we can get really direct into where all of those thoughts are story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's so interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as you're talking, what I'm thinking about my analytical brain is thinking, is it similar to, so I'll give you an example, so why not make a meditative state, or I'm just meditating?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just feel like I think, you know, when we were in one of your classes, and there were, you know, people were, you know, sharing their experiences about what, what kind of visions or what kind of thoughts were coming to them during that time, are you saying that that could be similar to that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's hypnosis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hypnosis is just that state where you are not analyzing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are simply present.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say, so for the analyzing brain, because I'm a therapist, I'm constantly analyzing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm constantly doing that, even to people, my friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And after my trauma, my family trauma, which you know about my brain went into this hypervigilance state where every time on in a different environment,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm constantly scanning the room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually this morning, I did it to my in my class, where I knew it's of the seven AM class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was quiet, not normally the way it's so crazy and exciting, which is like very quiet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, I thought there was something wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had to say, wait a second, it's seven AM.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody wants to speak, but that hyper vigilant brain of mine goes there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just how that's that's our function.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we're wired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that is so speaking about that that's when you start to get into that's when we start to in this pattern.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So because you experience trauma that is very much imprinted now in your body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're that part of your brain is always hyper vigilant like you said, it's always scanning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where sometimes like anxiety comes from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we retrain the brain for hypnosis, we're teaching it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like you did to yourself because you can just self hypnosis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In that moment, you were cautious of that thought that you were having.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you told yourself, hold on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no danger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, step back down, slow back down, we're safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a form of self-nosis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that, look at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe today we do like all day without knowing we're doing it's not 100% but and I also want to share with people that are listening it took a long time to be able to get there because you know and people know that I've been doing the work for many years but to be able to stop yourself is such a big it's a really big accomplishment but the more you do it I think the less likely you're going to continue to feel it at those levels that that heightened state that we feel when you were to had your
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[SPEAKER_00]: debilitating anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's actually reprogramming the mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I go when I work with with people in hypnosis, that's exactly what I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing it for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I help them get into that state and then we're taking that cycle of patterns that thought pattern and we're reframing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you did it cautiously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the goal is once they leave here because I wish you was a magic wand that, you know, I wave it and it would go away forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so having that awareness that once you leave here and you catch yourself doing that because it's automatic, it's our autonomic nervous system, then you tell yourself, hold on, there's no danger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to rewire this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to reprogram this spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So over and over, like you shared, you started to desensitize it and you started to create a new, a new, we call it a neurocynaptic pattern.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're, we're wiring a new thought process and then that just becomes the new autonomic
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[SPEAKER_01]: way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's your, that's your new program.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so we're really powerful machine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, seriously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I have silly questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, going into that, you know, since we're there, people that have that constant negative thought pattern also talk about NLP, which is actually rewiring that circuit real time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you explain a little bit more about what NPNL is?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the NLP is neural linguistic programming and it's literally what we just spoke about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the language of the brain, the language of the brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a very common term now called neural plasticity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure you've heard of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is where we are taking these thought patterns that have been wired in our brain and we're cautiously changing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, so by telling ourselves we are safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very much about being cautious of the choice of words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So instead of saying, you know, I have anxiety, or I would always say, my anxiety, I'm not anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't own anxiety, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I start to say, when my body experiences a bit of dysregulation, because that's all it is, is my nervous system became dysregulated in that moment, but I can re-regulate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's neuro linguistic programming is really about taking your power back and learning how that's to speak to others, to speak to yourself, to speak to our brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we start to do that, again, it's all about breaking those old habits, social patterns, repatterying so that we can, we can heal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and that's, and as a therapist, you know, we, I try to do that with my clients through a cognitive behavioral therapy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's there's different ways of doing things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I tell people is that that voice in your inside of you is we have to think about what that voice sounds like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to think about what it is that we're saying to ourselves because what we think and what we feel becomes behavior, right, becomes behavior.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that, you know, in even, and I try to always kind of use
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been 10, 15 years where I started to change that voice in my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as silly as it sounds, you have to be very specific.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I will sit there with my southern say, Jennifer, you've got this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You growl, you need to stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you were amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is not your fault.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, talk to yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you would talk to
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[SPEAKER_00]: a friend or a client, like, what is it that you give to others that you need to give to yourself?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And many times that voice is not our voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the voice of our parents, our teachers, our friends, of critics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not our voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've just picked that up and we do it to ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh yeah, I have chats with myself every day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, Varushka, this is not true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially with anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I'm like, Varushka, there is no danger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and you have to, and you're breaking that pattern when you do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think really, and I think it's so important for people to understand, they have total control over their narrative.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, it sounds sometimes silly, but you have to be able to talk to yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's what we're saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it takes time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes time to change those behaviors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't happen overnight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, these things a lot of it has happened since childhood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So at the end, when we experience a traumatic moment, it's so big that our body takes that on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's not something we can just switch off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to remind the body again, we're safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's safe to feel again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's safe to reconnect again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And little by little, we have to prove to,
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[SPEAKER_01]: part of us, like, no, it's not going to happen again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the nervous system is just there to protect us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's doing, you know, anxiety is doing what it's supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a lot of times it's misplaced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's in the wrong, in the wrong experience, the wrong behavior.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that you said, I love that you say that because it is misplaced because sometimes at high volume feeling that you're having has nothing to do with the actual experience you're having in that present moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a memory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds or smells like what it was and so it comes back on, but it's not, it's not happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's have to keep some.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to talk about, I want to move a little bit into the body and the body work that you do, which I'm like so fascinated with specifically spinal energetics again never heard of it until I until I experienced it with you and I truly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: have to say, you know, you'll be sharing some of these offerings in the event that we're going to be hosting January 15th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just want to talk a little bit about it because this is exciting for me because this is something new.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want you to really talk about it because as you and I both know doing this first long time that the body does keep score.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and what I mean by that is all the physical experiences that you have or even a psychological experiences, they will get stored in the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is felt in the body over time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just psychological.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, can you talk a little bit about that and how spinal energetics can really help release some of that energy that's in the body?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So spinal genics is a newamentality, and it was created through a chiropractor, Dr. Saraging Perry, and she started, again, working through the spinal cord because the spinal cord is what protects the nervous system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole nervous system runs through the spinal cord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it is, the nervous system is basically what sends signals to the brain to then release emotions, chemicals, behaviors, all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, here's what these thoughts, what emotions
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, with spinal energetics, it works with you on a somatic level where, like we said, subconsciously, we have these traumas and we've stored these emotions, but it's also stored physically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, spinal energetics, through a very simple assessment through your feet, it shows me where in your body you're holding onto these tension patterns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by tension patterns, we mean these
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[SPEAKER_01]: So trauma, pain, anxiety, fear, it's like the body takes a snap shot every time that we experience something and then the nervous system holds it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So little by little we start to contract and we start to protect and guard and over time we even get to the point where we disconnect, we become numb and we stop feeling in those prides of our body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, as a protective mechanism because it's not safe to feel, it's not safe to go into that place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So spinal energetics through a quick assessment, I know where in your body to start, where these patterns are being held.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then through very light touch along, it's very specific.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's certain points along the nurse spine, which is correlated to your actual vertebrae and the nervous system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The very light touch I'm able to create that connection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm helping you through I'm guiding you to breathe to know like, okay, we're starting to take here because
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's safe to start to feel into this place again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's safe to penat again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then do sound.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the sound is talking to the energy body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds silly, but you'll hear like, so in sounds, I'm talking to the energy layers of your body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, energy is off-requency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the sound is frequency and it's instructing the nervous system and the energetic body to feel again and to relax.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like to explain it almost like we're opening the door again so that whatever story tension has been held in that space can not start to our blind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that looks very different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for everybody it looks different into very unique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It depends on what you've experienced, what journey you're on, how ready you're almost to let that go to feel safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The
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[SPEAKER_01]: and those releases, I know if you've gone my Instagram or if you see a lot of videos around this work, it can look scary because it can look like, you know, it looks bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's be bizarre, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: People, but and I just want to say that because I think that it's for some people, they're like, well, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's why I think I was so glad for us to like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, as I said, like, you know, really open this curtain because I think that people have to really fully understand what's happening, not just looking at it and not really getting to the awareness of why it looks the way it does exactly exactly and I always like to say we have to feel into these things because all of the emotions are felt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like to think of it as imagine you have a coil or a spring, and it's been wound up so tight because of the tension that's been built in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as this spring, uncoils, the body starts to move that out of the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a very natural behavior if you see animals in the wild, and you'll see like two dogs chasing each other or whoever chasing each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they've built all this adrenaline and then they shake at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They like shake off all that energy, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We, as children, when kids start crying or they have tantrums, they're shaking out their emotions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's very natural.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just taught like Joe cry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can't feel this surprised us, be quiet, hold it in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so as adults, we have been holding all the sims.
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[SPEAKER_01]: through spinal energetics when you have that physical movement, the body simply just doing innately what it knows how to do, which is let's shake off all this pants up adrenaline, all this pants up, you know, heartbreak or or anger or anxiety that's been in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted to say something so what and I think I shared this at your event because I people were sharing their experiences to their bodies right and I said I remember for me there was an in flux of like like I felt feel it in my legs like energy I wasn't I didn't have any shaking but I had a lot of I could feel all the energy from my thigh all the way into my ankles and it was just moving is what I felt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it looks different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for some people, it's that they start to actually feel, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe that part of you was shut off before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're actually reconnecting and feeling that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For some people, they feel hard or they feel cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, because it's the nervous system is activating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you could feel little tingles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For some people, it's very emotional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they cry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or they may feel like they need to scream to release everything that's been
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[SPEAKER_01]: they're just in this internal state of bliss and they're just ceiling that state of love or gratitude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's an array.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no one-size-fits-all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it really depends on the way you show up that day, which you're experiencing in your body, what you're ready to let go of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks different every single time that you do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was going to ask you a question, but I think you answered it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The question was really just
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[SPEAKER_00]: to people that are skeptical of this and what's actually happening physically in their bodies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that what you're saying is is that because there's variations of all types of experiences as are going through this process, that it's really hard to really give you a linear answer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is what's going to happen when you participate in this and most type of modality that you're going to feel this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's for me based on
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[SPEAKER_00]: the person and their experiences and what school non in their body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think they're readiness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still readiness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I have to say, I think that, again, for people that have been suffering with any type of experience or mental health issue,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that after a while, you want it's so bad that you go out there and you try whatever it is that you need to do now for me, it's been for your five that I've done a lot of work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know what's coming out of my body, I know what I'm feeling and I'm scared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you're I feel like you feel like you're so spot on without one, it's readiness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's readiness for sure and you're you're willingness to surrender to it because you know we're working with that in need with some that our body has so it's that same energy that um you know if you if you get a cut the body knows how to heal it we're not telling the body okay create a scab or do you know it's just doing it or when we food our body naturally digest our heart beats naturally
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the body, that in the wisdom knows exactly how to move all this out of your body and recalibrate a nervous system because that's what it's doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's resetting you, it's bringing you back home each time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's taking out layers of pain or stuff that's just been distracted and reorganizing your nervous systems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if you're going to resist it, then you know, or you're going to be skeptic, it's still doing what it needs to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think in regards to allowing yourself to seal is your your willingness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're writing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're willing to say, you know, for people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a very scary thing for people to say, okay, I'm going to lean into this because, you know, for some people, that's just a whole stage in itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So to be ready for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there's so many offerings that you have it eventually and one of the offerings that I want to speak up was was one of the experiences that I had where you invited me and as a guest, so thank you for being useful moon cacao ceremony.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, for those of you that don't really know what those types of offerings are, I would love for you to share a little bit about what that one offering is, one of the classes that you have that I experienced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, tell me a little bit about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one of my favorites, because it's very much in community.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So usually it's a large group of 15 people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we start with, we start with a meditation that again, so we can ground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we all share our intentions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe our words are powerful, our intentions are so powerful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're putting that energy out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we all share what's our intention for the evenings really beautiful because we collaboratively form a circle of community, which I think is so important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: goal was centuries always to create safety, so you feel safe and mournable, so express.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we drink a cow and a cow is chocolate, but in it's very raw form, and to ceremonial grade, which means that it's been cultivated with that energy that it's there to heal, to open the heart, to really show us what we need to see in that moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we drink it and we drink it collectively, and we usually do a little prayer around it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we go into Hallitropic Brass work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that Hallitropic Brass work for me is so powerful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brass works, puts you, breathes the bridge between the crashes mine and it's the conscious mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel that it puts you in that state of transcendent, hypnotic state, or that altered state of consciousness so quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we do about 30 minutes of that breath.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we're doing that breath,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting, it's a three-part breath where we're inhaling to our belly through a test and then breathing out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, and when we're doing that, we're like physiologically changing our chemistry and our body regulates us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was, it wasn't hard for me, but it was definitely like a workout for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You, it's 30 minutes of intense breathing and in some ways, it wasn't that I was scared, but I was like, wow, like, I definitely sort of feel things changing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of the things that I experienced was it was such a release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was such a release of emotions for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I hadn't cried in a bit of time, just because I hadn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there wasn't something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I needed to and I think that it was it felt so odd for me because I felt like I couldn't control it and I just that's when you have to lean in and you have to trust the process which I did because going back to that safety that you're providing for your community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say to you I knew no one there no one but you and I felt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: probably the safest I've ever felt since the last time, and I'm going to share this in my story at our event when I went to Tennessee, and I spent an intensive five days with a beautiful group of people who, by the way, two of them are flying in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was, and I felt so safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was, I remember there was a, there was a girl next to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, in the emotion, it's just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was beautiful, and I don't know, I've never experienced anything like it, and I've just wanted everybody to like, you know, I'm in this place in, you know, in our fees like, you know, when you find a resource and it's so magnetic and so like you connect to it, you want to share it with the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be really high this class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure you get that world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That means a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is, that's one of the core values of century is safety.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you walk in here, I want you to forget about the outside world, forget about the problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are now in this cocoon where you feel safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You feel sacred.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The time is for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're seeing valid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's what I needed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is what I want to provide for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So breath work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just really, it removes
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel I mean, all the modalities are powerful, but I use breath work before I do any of the other, um, even if I'm doing a private spinal or genetics, I start with breath work because that automatically gets to your body in that relax in that grounded state and then we go into everything else, but yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the canned, and there were candles, look, and I think, oh, yeah, so you were smiling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I lit it for, you know, and I haven't, I haven't used it since our, our moment, but I want you to light it to create and touching with our conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I always change it because every full moon has its own meaning, and I like to, like just feel into what's a theme, I always listen to also with everybody sharing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll give canned, I change it every time, but sometimes you'll get candles or, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: sometimes some crystals or sometimes we'll write out things we want to let go of and then I burn them at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's always, again, intention is the big theme for each session and then after you do your breath work, I do some sound bath, which also, again, the sound is frequency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the frequency is then
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clearing, repattery, and our body, where 80% water, so the frequency of the sound bowls vibrates through a whole body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a really nice time just to integrate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the work you've done, and then we come back and we share a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was so wonderful, it was so powerful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm telling you, I want to go to the next one, and I could say that because it was so great, and I loved it so much that I want to keep experiencing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How it felt in my body?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the best night's sleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so glad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so I just loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if there was one thing you would want somebody and I think you I mean you've answered all the questions before I but I think what you're seeing is one of the questions I had was what would you want a person to experience while they're there, but I think you've really talked about this can you know this sense of community that sense of safety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just about obviously it's the modalities and the off-limbs, but before you can get into those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really about creating community and safety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really think that's what I felt and that's what everybody will feel when they both see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my goal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you're saying it, one of the things I learned when we're talking about nutrition is, if we're not operating from a regulated nervous system, it doesn't matter what we do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are not going to feel our best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to create our best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just connected that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you walk in, if you feel safe, send your body can go, you could take that breath and then you can actually experience some modalities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, before we get into the rapid fire questions, I want to ask you, like, I mean, I feel like I see all the things that you're doing for your social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is next for Zentuary in 2020?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the things that you're working on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited because we just had our five year anniversary, which is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I started officially full-time in 2020, so I can't believe it's been five years, but I am starting to lean a lot more into group work because I find the power of like we shared community.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Healing and group, we create this beautiful collective bubble of just more energy and more understanding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have our event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be offering a lot more group work, a lot of different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm calling it also different practitioners if they want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have their own area of expertise, you know, their own, I love things that are very unique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they want to come in and hold some type of workshop or a retreat, that's when I'm really gearing on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have our event on the 15th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have another practitioner who does Kundalini activation process cap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's coming in the 17th of January.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a healing tea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a workshop to detox your body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do group spinal and agedic brass work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All these things and I'm posting my first treat sheet in Morocco, November 26.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you share that with me offline, wait a second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did I not tell me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so did this, this is something of course that requires so much planning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what made you decide to go international?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have been wanting to do, I've always asked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People always ask me, we're doing to do a retreat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, it's a lot of work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I was juggling the one-on-one's the group work while this so next year, I'm stepping a little bit away from the one-on-one's doing more group work and, you know, just doing things in the retreat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I went to Morocco last year and I fell in love with, I think it's like sacred ground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so pure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The food is incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we went to
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[SPEAKER_01]: stayed overnight and the stars and I said, I could only imagine like having a group of really beautiful, powerful, I'm probably going to do just a women's group and do spinal energetics and breath work in the middle of the desert and the stars where we things like pure, really connecting
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm planning probably about a 70 retreat and we'll go through, it'll be an integration of food, different things for healing, exploration, as a community, and then we'll have different workshops throughout the week that we're there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm super excited to offer that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's so great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever, I mean, I think that 2020 sex has your name written all over it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love all the work that you will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we're going to segue into which is my favorite part of the conversation and often plans my guest favorite parts is just a rapid fire question, where I'm going to ask you five questions, and you are going to give me whatever comes into your head for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is unstructed
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[SPEAKER_00]: Body or brain, which one is the bigger gossiper, so which one is the one that speaks the most?
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[SPEAKER_01]: My gosh, that's like the heart, the heart and the brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Body or brain, I think the brain gossips more because you're always thinking, so it's like that chatter that mind chatter, but I think the body knows the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The body can, the body will immediately tell you if it's real or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the gossip is true or not, the body will check the body will check.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Question number two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Morning, ritual or evening release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you an AM or PM person for your own practices?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the morning is so important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The morning sets the tone for the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can ground yourself, you know, whatever your goals, I always meditate in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was still a little breath work in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have my intentions for the day, my affirmations, and that sets the tone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If not, I'm a hot mess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you practice what you preach because I think oh, yeah, one poor end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so let's talk about a little bit of a Zen hack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is one 60 second habit?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone can do right for right now to shift their energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, for me, it's all about your state.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You change your state of being.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I feel very rattled, I will take a moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I close my, you can do this driving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done this driving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Close your eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to put a hand on my heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hand on my belly and I take a few breaths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I check in and just like inhale, where I really nice audible exhale, do that a couple of times, like drop back in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then tell myself, what do I need in this moment?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have my mantra, I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'm lost, I am safe, I like I say that to myself all the time, check back in that completely changes your every set your autonomic nervous system and I do the opposite if I'm feeling like I'm going to get into a funk or I'm going down that rabbit hole, I put really good music on and I get up and I dance or move or like scream and whatever it is because then we're changing the mood of our body immediately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so interesting because I think over time you'll get to know what your body needs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, the anxiety or the overthinking and the hyper vigilance states, I'm in that means Jennifer, you have to move your body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because it's all the excess energy that we need to release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know who needs that is like my go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I walk there at sporting at 8 a.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So okay, so number four, the misconception.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the most common thing people get wrong about being a healer?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's so many, they think that we're like this, woo, I walk around with crystals, peace and love, light and love, and that's not true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, I don't even believe, I don't, I can, I never say to myself, I'm a healer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All I'm doing is I am holding space for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm holding the highest vibration that I can for you, and the only way I can do that is by me doing my work showing up as my best self, and being a mirror to you of
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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to help you also raise your energy or get into that same level of, or in that same frequency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this whole healer saying like, or, and there's another misconception too, which is a big thing that I had to work through is with money, where healing like everything's free, you're providing a service and everything's free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was, if you go to a therapist, you have to pay, if you go to a doctor, you have to pay, and they're providing a service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll say, even as a therapist, people still sometimes think that we're not equally as important as like a medical doctor or exactly like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, you go to the doctor and you have to pay your copay before you even get into the doctor's office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a five minute visit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what makes you think that we're not, you know, and you know, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that you brought that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a, that's a big one that I had to work through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, I, we've done our studies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've invested in our, in our trainings, in our experience, and it's our energy as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, those two, I think are really big.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the last one, January 15th and one word described the vibe of the upcoming event in just one word, what you think is going to be happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: breakthrough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to just got goosebumps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have goosebumps to break through because I think it's when you share, I can't wait to hear, I've heard bits and pieces of your story, but I think when you share a story, you're breaking through, you're having people have breakthroughs because all of a sudden they see so much of you in themselves, even if it's not the same thing, but it's a similar emotion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also that there's all these medallities that they can use to break through whenever they
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I feel like this is how I know I feel this is a good segue into talking about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, all the things that you're saying and I think that I'm hoping even some of your community members can come into this about it is January 50 from seven to nine at your location for the New Jersey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and for me, it's telling my story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been working through my healing process after the tragic family event that happened to me January 12, 2021.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will share all about that, but it's not about the story for me anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a part of it's why I'm here, but for me, it allowed me to use my voice to share with people, even as a therapist, that no matter what life gives you, no matter what horrific circumstances,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that you undergo, you still have a right to live the life you're meant to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You still have the right to heal, and there's healing that is very possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, I think that a very small portion of people have experienced, so I've experienced it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still living proof with all of the things I've done to get to this place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love, and that's where you come in, where you come in to share those modalities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I call it the pros of wisdom that I brought into like the, you know, into the the audience or into my clients or, you know, and, and, and again, I think that it took a long time to get to that place because, and again, we'll all share that in most story, but I think that when you see the amount of love that you are embraced with, when you stand in your
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to do it more and more and you want that experience and that feeling more and more and that's why I think it's so important to share the story and to share how it really life can offer you so many things that you can turn into
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[SPEAKER_00]: a powerful tool for others just to use as a map or as a roadmap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I'm so excited about Jenny Rick give King.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just come in, come in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really start your new year with clarity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I can't I can't say that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But one other thing, I'm going, I want you to just share and where they can find you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what are some social media?
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[SPEAKER_01]: which I'd be pretty present on Instagram, so you can follow me at centuary healing center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then my website centuary.co, there's no M, I used to get confused.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't available, but all my information there, all the services that I provide, you can book everything straight through there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm starting to grow my TikTok, it's a lot, but you know, all the social media platforms and my website as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm unscripted too fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for those of you that are checking in for the first time or returning, I always put all of my guests information on my show notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This episode will be aired on Apple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll also be shared on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spotify and Amazon music and in those show notes you'll you'll find for Rushka and all for information and also on my social media unscripted 2.0 Where you can find me on the Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more president on my Instagram following, but It's so great to have this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so glad we had this conversation Me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a way to start a Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a way to start a Monday of the year
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[SPEAKER_00]: exactly and I'm so excited to see you and to share these experiences with your community and mine and until we see each other next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Linkwise, they thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a great day guys.