Stop Treating Yourself Small | Zach Lund and Lance Schiffman on Self-Love

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Here I am an Olympic athlete and I would treat
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myself small.
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I picture my higher self looking down on me and
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being like, I fucking love you.
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Surrender is not waving the white flag and giving up.
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Surrender is a power position.
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If you ever wanted a place where no topic was
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too real, too strange, too messy, you found it. Welcome
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to Unpacked and Unfiltered. I'm Noe.
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And I'm Bex. We are here to laugh with you,
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cry with you, grow with you, because honestly, we are
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doing it right alongside with you. There's an extra seat here,
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so please come sit with us while we unpack these conversations.
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Let's go.
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Let's get unpacked.
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Okay, welcome to Unpacked and Unfiltered. I'm Bex.
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And I'm Noe.
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And today we have a couple of special guests that
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we're super excited to have with us. And first here
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we have Lance. And Lance, you, I feel like, are
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at the intersection of personal growth, adventure, healing, and Tell
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us a little bit more about that.
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Personal growth journey.
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It really started, I would say, at 17 for me.
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I moved out of.
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My house, no car, $ 1, 200 in my pocket. I worked
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three jobs, finished high school. But then it, I was like,
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what am I going to do next? My dad just
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closed his company at 30 years.
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So, you know, going through a depression. And then I
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was just like, man, what am I going to do? Like, Scared.
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And graduating high school, I ended up buying the apartment
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complex that I lived in.
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They actually started out calling me ignorance on fire because
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I would just jump in.
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Right. I would just jump in full passion, open heart.
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And then I would just jump into things and they'd go.
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That guy's crazy. He's crazy.
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And I'd go, why are they calling me crazy? I'm like,
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I'm scared and I'm running. So four months out of
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high school, I bought this apartment complex at 19, a
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taco time.
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Everybody's had those fantastic tacos. So I was there at
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five in the morning and then at 20, I bought
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a gas station. But in this journey, I was like
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trying to find myself in that, you know, ignorance isn't
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really about, you know, it's kind of a degrading thing
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to think about, but it's, it's just moving and acting
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with a full passionate heart. So that's where it really
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kind of opened up.
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But really about 14, 15 years ago, I heard this
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unbelievable word.
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That just cracked me wide open.
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And I was going through the hardest part of my
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life in transition in my relationship, having three beautiful daughters.
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And I hear this word, Genshai. That's really where it
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opened me up. I'm sitting there pedaling on my bike,
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training for an Ironman, and I have tears. And somebody
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called me and said, I need to meet with you.
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One of my dear friends, Kevin. And he shared this
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word Genshai with me. G-E-N-S-H-A-I. And he shared this definition.
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And he said, to never treat anyone in a manner
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that would make them feel small, including yourself.
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All I heard was the last two words. Me too. Yeah.
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And Zach will attest to this. So all I heard
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was the last two words and then something. Blooped a switch.
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And my greatest mentor in the world is my mom.
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She's my rock. I call her right after and I'm like, mom,
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there's this word. I said, something just happened. Like I've
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got chills right now. I shared it with her again,
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shine the definition to never treat anyone small, including yourself.
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I said, I'm treating myself so small right now from
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the outward. I built my dream home and I didn't
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move into it. And I'm like, what is going on
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in my life? Like successful on the outside and totally
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empty and hollow on the inside.
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And see a lot of that. Yeah.
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And I said to her, I said, what is your
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first thoughts? And she said, charity and love. That's all
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she had to say. And then that's where it opened
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me right up to what's really going on in my life.
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And it just cracked me.
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All the way open.
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And the bigger picture.
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Bigger picture of everything. Yeah. And I was like, okay,
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so now it's the journey within.
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I have so many questions for you.
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So, and I'm just grateful to be here with both
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of you guys. Especially with my dear brother, Zach.
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Okay.
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Let's dive into that.
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Yes, you're welcome. And we're so grateful to have.
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You here and to have both of you guys here.
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Cause I feel like you both stand for a little
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bit of the similar message. Zach, your story is insane.
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I have been talking about it to Rebecca the last
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few days. I mean, who comes back from what you
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have been through with such strength and also seeing the
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bigger picture. I don't even know how to start with
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your story. I have notes, but I'm like, but where
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do you start? You were an Olympian. You've won gold medals,
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bronze medals. You've made it all the way to the
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last day for competition and then got eliminated, right?
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Well, yeah, I got dismissed. First of all, thank you.
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So amazing to be here. We met back in the day,
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and it's just been fun to stay in touch with you.
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I'm really grateful to be on your show and do this,
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so thank you. Yeah, my journey was a hard one.
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My Olympic journey was brutal. And there was a lot
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of tests in it, but I realized that that's the
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beauty of it. The beauty is all the hard things
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I had to go through are what taught me the
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most about myself. And so, you know, you need to
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have the right person to go through the hard things, right?
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And the biggest lesson I learned when I got cracked open,
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I guess you could say, too, is... When I lost
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my mom, when I first got recruited, my mom got
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diagnosed with skin cancer and was given three months of that.
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And I was 15. I was 13 when she got diagnosed.
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So I just got recruited on the team and got
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asked to go back to the Olympic Training Center to
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live in a dorm with other kids and eat cafeteria
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food and not go to high school. I was like, wait,
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I get to do this? This is as big as anything.
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I was like, okay, let's go. And I had to
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turn down that opportunity because I wasn't going to leave
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my mom's side. And before she passed away, she sat
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me down and she made me make her a promise.
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And that was to always follow my dreams, to dream big,
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and then do it a way to make her proud.
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And as a 15 year old, I was like, yeah,
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I'm okay. Whatever, you know? But then when she was gone,
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I was lost. I was so lost. And I found
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strength in her words and my promise to her. I
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was like, okay, what are my dreams? My dreams were
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to be a pilot. I'm a pilot. And my dreams
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would be an Olympic athlete. And I'm an Olympic athlete
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because that's like, all right, well, let's go. And so
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every time I faced a hardship, it was never a
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question of if I would keep going.
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Yeah.
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Or how I– it's just like, okay, let's figure it out.
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Let's pivot. Let's pivot. Let's keep going.
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Yeah.
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And when you have that passion resolved and, like, that
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promise to my mom, like, nothing would stop. Oof. That's crazy.
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That's crazy.
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Did you ever feel like along that journey, the Olympic journey,
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and even afterwards as like your mom, just like nudging you, like,
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keep going, buddy, keep going.
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I was telling his son last night, power of a necklace.
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And when I lost my mom, I had a, she
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was religious. I had a crossbead with her hair in it.
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She has beautiful red hair. And, um, I wore that
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thing every single day until I got to the competing Olympics.
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All the G-forces, I was going in, getting the gold
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fix because it was getting broken from like the G-forces.
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Oh my gosh. And when I lifted it, it would
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be like, you know, like this. Nothing with your head.
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But to have her with me that whole time really
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gave me so much strength and I realized in looking
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back on my journey and everything that she was there
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the whole time. She was guiding me this whole time.
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She was never left. I mean, she was a powerful woman. Yeah.
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And one of the greatest moments I had in my
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entire life was at the Olympics. It was a moment
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of my mark. So I finally made the 2010 Olympics
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after getting kicked out of the 2006 Olympics. I had
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been working 15 years of my life. I mean, I
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had setback after setback after setback. Like I was finally
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getting to the point where I was like, crap, I
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don't know if I can keep going. And I finally
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got there. And I wasn't at the top of my career.
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I was, my health was failing me. My body was
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failing me, but I got there. Right. And finally got
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this moment to, to shine. And my first run, I mean,
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I was top three all week. I was like in position,
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the metal. I was like, Holy crap, I got here.
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This is going to happen. I didn't handle the pressure. Well,
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I had an out of the body experience. My first run,
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like I visualized it so many times. Yet the moment
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was bigger than anything I could ever imagine. of the Olympics,
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the cameras, the pressure, the fans, the USA, like I
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get the chills because it's like, I couldn't have imagined
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a moment that big. And I didn't handle the pressure well.
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And after the first one, I was in 10th place
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and I was destroyed because I was like, I knew
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that getting back into a medal was going to be
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really hard. I knew I could do it, but I
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came back up and before I did my first run,
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I had this moment where I couldn't even do warmup drills.
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So the warmup drills are something I would do that
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I wouldn't even think twice about. And I got up
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there and I couldn't do it because I was that nervous.
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And I was like, okay, we're relaxed now. Second run,
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first runs under the bell. And I got up there again,
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a beautiful night in Vancouver, Canada. And I couldn't do
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it again. I literally couldn't do the warmups that I
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don't even think about usually. And I surrendered for the moment.
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I literally, I literally did a big out, big breath out.
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I held my hands up and looked to the sky
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just in disbelief, like 15 years, this is what's happening.
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This is what I do, remember? And it was in
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that moment that I saw the crescent moon. I have
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a tattoo of the crescent moon and the Phoenix rising
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with the crescent moon that's my mom. In that moment
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of surrender, I looked up and I saw this sliver
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of moon and I saw my, I got this feeling
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from my, I don't know how to explain it. I
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got this message and it was her saying, Hey, you're here.
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You did it. Like you have nothing to prove. Just
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own the moment. And that was one of the greatest
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moments of my entire life. And I wouldn't have had
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that if I was in first place. Yeah. I got
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that moment. I got that gift because I was in
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10th place. Yeah. That was the gift. That was my dream.
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Yeah.
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And the crescent moon was with us last night. It was.
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I just thought of that. It's amazing. Both nights. So cool.
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That's beautiful. What did it feel like in your body
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to surrender in that moment?
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Like we all hear it.
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We all hear we just need to surrender. And sometimes
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we feel like we are, but we're really not. We
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still feel it tight in our heart or our head
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or our chest or somewhere.
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What was that?
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What did it feel like to you?
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What was the lyrics of the song, The Killers?
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So I was playing The Killers for him because the
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first time I saw them like three or four years ago,
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it was like, the album was called Imploding the Mirage.
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So I told Zach, I said, let's go right here.
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Let's go implode the mirage.
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And there's a song and a lyric in there that says,
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it's some kind of sin to live your whole.
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Life of what might've been. And I'm like, Listen to that, Zach.
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Listen to it again. And that's what it is. It's releasing.
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It's surrender. I've got some of the greatest lessons of
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my life when I've surrendered. And it's, I mean, usually
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when I surrender, it's like, I'm surrendering because I give up. Like,
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I'm like, well, shit. You don't have another option. I
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have nothing left. And then that's when the gift comes.
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And I think there's a lot of beauty in being
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able to surrender. I think a lot of people try
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to hold on so hard that they don't, give themselves
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this chance to have that. Great. Agreed.
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I think trying to control the outcome so tightly keeps
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us from just that inner love, that inner expression, our
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highest self is just, you know, being locked away with
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what we think the outcome should look like, but it's
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going to be so much better if we don't care.
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We release that.
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Agreed. And just to follow and follow the, the, just
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to trust. There is a surrender and there's trust. And
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a lot of times when I have things happen to
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me now that I'm like, well, that sucks. It's like, okay,
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that sucks, but I'm going to trust that this is
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my path. I'm going to trust this. Okay, what do
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I do with it? Yeah. That's the agency I have.
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That's the agency we have is the choice. Yeah.
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Surrender has been so powerful for me too, because like
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you're saying, like you don't have any more energy left.
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Right. And surrender is not waving the right white flag
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and giving up.
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Surrender is a power position. Yes. You're literally surrendering.
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To a possibility that's outside of your construct, right? That's
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really the beauty of surrender. So if you really embrace
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what that truly is for you, it's full expansion. But
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like Zach says, you got to trust the fact that
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there's a greater possibility. Your higher self has actually laid
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the path for you already.
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So trust that. And trust your heart. Go into your heart.
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That's so beautiful how you said the gift is in surrender.
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It's so true. I think some of the most close
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moments I've had with my kids were in times that
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I'm like, all right, what do you got? Because I'm like,
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I got nothing.
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And when you've had to surrender to like, okay, I'm
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forcing this too much. Yeah. And now I'm going to
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let go.
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Take a deep breath.
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Let go.
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I love that. So we have invited both of you
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guys today to be here together because you guys are
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doing something really great in the world, and I want
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to know all about it.
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Yes. What are we doing, Zach? What are we doing?
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We're just in surrender, guys.
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You're just winging it, just like we are.
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We don't know now, so... Will the reveal is today.
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We met each other at the event, like he was
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talking about from our mentor called the Genshai. And it's
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something that transformed my life too, because I actually got
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invited to speak at this event and I had no
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idea what it was, but I was, my mentor asked
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me to be there. I was there. And I got,
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He had no idea what I was going into. I
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hadn't spoken to him in years. And after I'd gotten
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into speaking, I just sat and was part of the
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event the rest of the day and learned so much
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about what Genshi was and everything. And he was emceeing
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that day. Yeah, I emceed the event. So my mentor,
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that's how we kind of met. And the concept really
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changed me because here I am, an Olympic athlete, and
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I was treating myself small.
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Oh, yeah.
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I was going through a lot of like, who am I?
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Because who am I without sport? Right. When you have sport,
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it's like, well, yeah, that's who you are. After I
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lost sport, it's like I lost my identity a little bit,
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which I think a lot of people run into when they, careers, divorces.
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There's so many things that we lose our identity.
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Your identity is tied to a title.
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Yeah. And you get a lot. But there was also
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that beauty in that. And so when I realized, I
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was like, holy crap. I'm treating myself small. Why am
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I doing that? That's silly. And all of a sudden
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I was like, okay, well, let's change that. And so,
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and yeah.
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What does that process look like though? Where you make
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that shift of like, okay, I'm actually going to see
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myself for who I am and not who I've told
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myself I am.
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You know, it's about self-love. That's what we are doing.
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We're getting people to have self-love. And it starts with,
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I mean, you can't go out into the world and
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give love if you can't love yourself first. And that's
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something that we've both struggled with. Yeah. Even we've been
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successful people and we both struggle. And if we're struggling
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with it, you know, other people are struggling with it. Yeah.
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How do you embody that? Right.
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Because that's really what we're after. How do we embody that?
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Like how, how do we fill ourselves first so we
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can fill others with our overflow? Not what's left. Not
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from depletion.
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Yeah.
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It's the practice of anchoring and holding more. We were
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just barely talking about this on our last episode of like,
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You can't hold more than when you're already full all
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the time. You have to like practice expanding, expanding and
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anchoring it in. But you also have to practice bringing
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back all the parts. Like this is something you have
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to like I have to do this daily. I have
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to bring back all the parts I gave away like constantly,
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like every day in order to feel whole. And sometimes
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we give so many parts of us away.
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It's a constant reset.
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It is.
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Yeah, it's a constant reset.
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And then at this same event, Zach did a fantastic
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job of sharing that Olympian mindset, right?
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And I'm teaching Genshai.
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And I mean, what we're doing is I have like
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a one troy ounce silver coin, Genshai, that we created.
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Like this is for the nonprofit that we have.
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That's beautiful.
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I want to go deeper into that because this is
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the embodiment side. So if you go to the etymology
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or the deeper meaning, I've learned words have so much power.
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Everything we think, speak, profess, everything, it's either alkaline or acidic.
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It actually alchemizes in our body.
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So we need to be conscious of everything we're thinking
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and everything that we're speaking. What are we professing?
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Genshai, G-E-N, like genetics. Genesis means beginning of birth. S-H-A-I
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in sacred writ means the gift.
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Wow. So the deeper meaning of this word, every time
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I say that, like we are the gift. We are
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the gifts.
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So if we embody what Genshai truly means, each one
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of us is the gift and we're the gift to
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ourselves first.
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And then the gift to others. What do we need
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to illuminate?
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What do we need to master so that we can
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embody that and share that.
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With other people?
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So that's really the essence of what we're after is,
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I mean, the top of his game, literally two hours
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before his gold medal, right?
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Run. He's going to win the gold that day.
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Yeah.
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And he's yanked off the mountain and flown home in shame.
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And I'm like, are you kidding me? He's telling that story.
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And we have 150 CEOs that have the same feeling
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that we do.
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Are we enough? We're successful. And are we worthy of this?
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Are we worthy of love?
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And they're all asking the same question in that room.
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And at the end of two or three days, going
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through Zion's and doing these amazing things and the retreats
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that we hold, people leave going, I am. yeah because
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that's that's all we're doing.
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We're just illuminating them the beauty and yourself right and
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then self-love and you're the gift right yes it's it's
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not that it's not that huge of a concept but
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it's so profound so the simplicity is i think is
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what the beauty the beauty of it.
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That's what we were talking about last night like like
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we're going on this incredible podcast two beautiful humans and
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we're just like what do we need to embody in
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there and i said turned to Zach and he said,
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it's super simple. It's embodying self-love and having that Olympian
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mindset that we, even if it's just for you, it's enough.
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Yeah, it is. The thing that I like so much
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about this too, is that there's so much beauty in
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every soul, so much beauty. And how am I going
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to help you see the beauty in your soul if
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I don't see it in me? How am I going to,
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when I go to the gas station, when I go
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to the grocery store and I'm running into all these
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random people, We are equally as beautiful.
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We are equally as- incredible. I mean, think about this.
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The beauty is in the difference.
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Exactly.
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We should not homogenize people. Like, we're trying to put
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everybody into these containers. Like, These people are this. These
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politicians do this. This group does this. This fraction does this.
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It's like, no, we're all individual humans. It's what we illuminate.
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We have to get back to the human. We've been
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talking about that a lot, too. How do we get
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back to the basics of being human? And the sub-definition
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that I created for Gensha years ago, because I was like,
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why is it like Why do we have to start
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with never? Because it's such a negative, right? Never treat
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anyone in a way that makes them feel small. And
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I'm just like, eh, you know. And we'll talk about
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the origin of that word. But I said holding everyone
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in their own excellence.
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Oh, I love that.
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Yes.
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The sub-definition, holding everyone in their own excellence. And if
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you don't mind, I would just like to really quick,
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because Praveen Shakur, he's actually the one that brought the
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word over here. And- His mom was in Gandhi circles.
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So when they were being suppressed or anything happened in
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their circles, they would say, you need to practice and
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live again, Shai.
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So it was the sacred word saved for today. I
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truly believe this. This is something we created. This is
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something that's been around forever.
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Southeast Asia, from India, everything. His mom would literally walk
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him down the streets when he was a boy. And
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she says, you pull all of the coin out of
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your pocket and you get eye level with the people
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that are less fortunate. And you put this in their
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hand and you tell them, you're my brother and my
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sister and I love you. And it's okay, you're in
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a different situation. So that's how they gifted them. You
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see their soul. Like it's literally just seeing someone.
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Who doesn't want to be seen?
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Everyone's craving it. Everywhere you go.
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Exactly. Yeah. And yeah, like acknowledged and seen and in
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their own beauty.
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I was going to say, I think a big element
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of that is being the mirror that's sitting in front
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of somebody. You know, I was like, you could be
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beautiful because I'm beautiful or it's not. We all have that.
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We all have that essence. We all have that soul. Instead,
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how do I sit with you and be your mirror
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and let you see what's already radiating from inside of you,
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which you're so good at.
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There's days where I'm just down in the dumps and
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she's like, See yourself. See yourself. And I'm like, yeah,
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I do.
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That's the problem. That's the problem. Thank you. You have
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to wake up. What are you giving to yourself this day, right? Yes.
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We wake up so fractured and everything. And that's why
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it's like giving. The return to you. Where's your heart?
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What are you setting? What's your intention? What are you
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manifesting for the day?
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And not being so hard on ourselves. I think we
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are all so hard on ourselves. Getting back to being human.
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It comes down to words create, right? Right. Self-talk creates.
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No one else can hear it. But if you're self-talking
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and that's what you're giving your body, that's what you are.
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You're creating yourself through your self-talk. So you have to
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start with the self-love literally at that level. And then
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it goes outwards.
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Can I ask you a question around this? I had
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somebody call me last night and ask for advice around this.
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And it's been on my head ever since. It's like
487
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you say the words you tell yourself help you create something. Well,
488
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when you were in that space of so much doubt
489
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and so much like fear, we've talked about this the
490
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other day of like, I'm not good enough. I can't
491
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do this, all of this. What are the thoughts that
492
00:23:16.390 --> 00:23:20.450
help you get from down in the dumps to through
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the fear? How did you get through the fear?
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Yeah. So I use visualization as much as possible. So
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when I know moments are going to present themselves or I, I,
496
00:23:33.730 --> 00:23:38.410
want to manifest moments. We can manifest anything we want, right?
497
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When I think of those moments, I think of all
498
00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.880
the alternative realities that could happen with them. Like, okay,
499
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go this way, go this way, do this way. And
500
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I visualize in my head all these things. So I've
501
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:49.980
thought about the worst case scenario. I've thought about the
502
00:23:50.140 --> 00:23:52.599
best case scenario. I've done it all and I've lived
503
00:23:52.619 --> 00:23:54.200
it in my head so many times that it feels
504
00:23:54.329 --> 00:23:56.589
real in my head. I trick myself so that when
505
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I get into the moments, my brain, our brain, it
506
00:24:00.269 --> 00:24:02.190
doesn't know the difference. And it doesn't know the difference
507
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between fear And it like, and excitement, like our body,
508
00:24:06.819 --> 00:24:10.029
physiologically fear and excitement are the same things. So when
509
00:24:10.089 --> 00:24:13.450
I'm feeling scared, I'm like, no, Zach, you're not feeling scared.
510
00:24:13.470 --> 00:24:15.430
You're excited. I'm like, oh shit. I'm excited.
511
00:24:15.509 --> 00:24:15.789
Yeah.
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00:24:16.789 --> 00:24:20.069
It's like literally, yeah. So it's all about, it's all
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00:24:20.089 --> 00:24:21.950
about mindset. Mindset's everything.
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Everything.
515
00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:26.720
It really is. It is. Yeah. Talking about people think
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you're crazy. Like I get that all the time. They're like,
517
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you must be crazy. You must have the fear. I'm like, no.
518
00:24:31.869 --> 00:24:33.369
I'm scared just like anyone else.
519
00:24:33.890 --> 00:24:36.690
I'm sure those days are still happening.
520
00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.490
Oh, for sure.
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Last night, I was going through a speech that I
522
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have prepared and stuff, and I was telling Zach, I said,
523
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do you want to hear part of this?
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And so we played it. Amazing.
525
00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:54.700
And we were talking about mindset, right? And I was
526
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:57.180
a decent golfer in high school.
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I was okay.
528
00:24:58.140 --> 00:24:59.900
I was the captain of the golf team and stuff,
529
00:24:59.960 --> 00:25:07.490
and but we weren't that good, but one of my,
530
00:25:07.750 --> 00:25:09.829
one of my dear friends, they own all the car
531
00:25:09.869 --> 00:25:11.930
dealerships and everything. And he calls me up. He says,
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00:25:11.970 --> 00:25:13.799
Hey Lance, we got a golf tournament. COVID just broke.
533
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:17.259
So we're at Thanksgiving point. The day before I go
534
00:25:17.299 --> 00:25:19.539
grab my clubs at my dad's house, I'm in transition
535
00:25:19.579 --> 00:25:21.799
moving and I'm like cleaning off my clubs.
536
00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:22.740
I haven't played in a long time.
537
00:25:22.779 --> 00:25:24.599
And I'm like, I don't want to go embarrass myself
538
00:25:24.660 --> 00:25:29.640
in front of everybody. And then, um, And someone came
539
00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:31.220
up to me and says, what are you doing? I says, well,
540
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:32.579
I'm just going to go hit a hole and want
541
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:35.039
to win a car. It's a charity golf tournament. They
542
00:25:35.059 --> 00:25:38.069
have luxury cars on every par three. And they're like, okay,
543
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:43.009
we'll go do that. I'm like, okay, awesome. So I
544
00:25:43.029 --> 00:25:46.750
come home and Emily goes, hey, like, what are you doing?
545
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I said, I'm going to go hit a hole and
546
00:25:48.130 --> 00:25:49.049
want to win a car tomorrow.
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She's like, okay, rah, rah. So I'm cleaning my clubs.
548
00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:56.700
Dean comes out of the house and he goes, the
549
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next morning, And he goes, what are you doing? I said,
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I'm going to go hit a hole in one and
551
00:26:00.500 --> 00:26:02.460
win a car. And he goes, yeah, right. And I'm like,
552
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:04.380
now I'm like, no, I'm going to.
553
00:26:05.019 --> 00:26:07.440
But the night before, you know how at night when
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you go to sleep and you're like, what do I
555
00:26:09.430 --> 00:26:10.269
have to do tomorrow?
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And I'm like, oh, I got all this stuff. I've
557
00:26:13.470 --> 00:26:16.029
got a golf tournament tomorrow. I'm like, oh no, I
558
00:26:16.069 --> 00:26:17.990
got to go play golf tomorrow. I don't have time.
559
00:26:18.109 --> 00:26:20.599
And I'm like, wait a second, just hit a hole
560
00:26:20.619 --> 00:26:21.759
in one. That's going to be amazing.
561
00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:25.480
So I literally, as I'm falling asleep into that theta,
562
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like the two or three minutes before you like I'm
563
00:26:28.390 --> 00:26:32.130
thinking about golf. I literally pull a nine iron and
564
00:26:32.170 --> 00:26:33.829
I swing it and it goes into the front of
565
00:26:33.849 --> 00:26:36.210
the green. It rolls up and it drops. And then
566
00:26:36.230 --> 00:26:39.289
I fall asleep. That's the last thing I remember because
567
00:26:39.450 --> 00:26:42.740
I remember I'm playing golf tomorrow. I'm four holes in.
568
00:26:43.420 --> 00:26:44.259
It's really windy.
569
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It's on hole 13. Like, we can't script this stuff.
570
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.319
Lucky 13, right?
571
00:26:49.339 --> 00:26:52.019
Like, we're bringing back the number 13, too. Right, yes.
572
00:26:52.059 --> 00:26:55.859
We're building a hotel. We're doing a 13th floor. Perfect.
573
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.609
I was born on the 13th. There you go.
574
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All right.
575
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It's a great number.
576
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We're doing this, and there's supposed to be 13 months.
577
00:27:01.630 --> 00:27:05.769
We know this. So, anyways, we won't go there. We're there.
578
00:27:06.089 --> 00:27:09.829
All right. We're on the same page, so we're good. Okay.
579
00:27:09.849 --> 00:27:12.490
We know we're in the right house. Yes, you are. So.
580
00:27:13.410 --> 00:27:17.529
Literally 12 people on the whole, the sister-in-law of the
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00:27:17.569 --> 00:27:19.450
charity that we're in, she's sitting on the whole.
582
00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:22.910
And it was like deja vu. I grab a nine iron.
583
00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:24.349
I'm like, I'm gonna have to plug this right at
584
00:27:24.369 --> 00:27:27.339
the front of the grain. And, and I, it's 152
585
00:27:27.339 --> 00:27:30.460
yards and I plug it and it's still in the air.
586
00:27:30.500 --> 00:27:33.279
And I turn around, I go, that's going in. And
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00:27:33.299 --> 00:27:35.319
they look at me like that pretentious asshole.
588
00:27:37.259 --> 00:27:39.500
I'm not kidding. And I turn around. I'm like, that
589
00:27:39.579 --> 00:27:42.200
one's going in. And they're like, all right. And all
590
00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:43.509
of a sudden it hits the front of the green
591
00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:46.670
and starts rolling. And everyone's like, go, go, go. I
592
00:27:46.710 --> 00:27:51.029
got a hole in one. Oh. Oh my gosh. It drops.
593
00:27:51.289 --> 00:27:53.509
I turn around. There is a $ 74, 000 Jeep Gladiator on
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00:27:53.529 --> 00:27:55.450
this whole decked out. And I was like, I just
595
00:27:55.490 --> 00:27:55.930
won a car.
596
00:27:56.269 --> 00:27:58.069
Oh my gosh.
597
00:27:58.210 --> 00:28:00.750
So I walked up to him. How funny is this?
598
00:28:01.230 --> 00:28:03.579
I'm like, dude, I just won this. I won a
599
00:28:03.579 --> 00:28:08.839
whole lot. And I've been playing golf my whole life.
600
00:28:08.940 --> 00:28:11.740
And I had like two dozen, like it hit the
601
00:28:11.779 --> 00:28:13.700
pin and everything. I'm like, I've never had a hole-in-one.
602
00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:18.289
But the visualization, before I fall asleep, three people confirming,
603
00:28:18.369 --> 00:28:23.470
me professing that, I know that had a materialization of manifestation.
604
00:28:23.529 --> 00:28:27.609
That's exactly, that's what happens. That's how powerful we are
605
00:28:27.670 --> 00:28:31.299
as humans. We are so powerful.
606
00:28:31.500 --> 00:28:34.319
Have you seen the experiment where they took random people
607
00:28:34.579 --> 00:28:37.779
to shoot basketballs? and they put the blindfold on them,
608
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:39.369
you know what I'm talking about, they put the blindfold on,
609
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.569
and the same people, and one time they're like, oh,
610
00:28:43.589 --> 00:28:45.869
you missed, oh, you missed, and then they missed like
611
00:28:45.910 --> 00:28:49.210
every shot, right? And the other one, they're like, even
612
00:28:49.250 --> 00:28:50.410
though they missed, they.
613
00:28:50.349 --> 00:28:53.430
Were told, like, you made it, oh my god, they're cheering, they're.
614
00:28:53.329 --> 00:28:55.130
Yelling, towards the end they were making every shot.
615
00:28:55.789 --> 00:28:58.430
With their blindfold on.
616
00:28:58.569 --> 00:29:00.630
Yeah.
617
00:29:00.710 --> 00:29:03.170
And then they were visualizing, they were imagining stuff, like,
618
00:29:03.309 --> 00:29:06.089
I'm making baskets, so then they were making baskets. It's
619
00:29:06.109 --> 00:29:06.450
pretty powerful.
620
00:29:06.549 --> 00:29:09.210
And there's so much power in that, right? Like my
621
00:29:09.289 --> 00:29:11.079
second principle I teach is you go where you're looking.
622
00:29:11.380 --> 00:29:15.380
And if you can't create the reality you want in
623
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.259
your mind and believe it yourself, how are you going
624
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:19.400
to make it real in the three-year world if you
625
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.299
don't believe it yourself? Yeah. It's true. Right.
626
00:29:22.339 --> 00:29:23.529
Someone comes to you like, I can't do this.
627
00:29:23.549 --> 00:29:24.190
You're like, you're right.
628
00:29:24.289 --> 00:29:26.130
You can. Yeah, because you're telling yourself that. You're absolutely right.
629
00:29:26.170 --> 00:29:28.869
So you're absolutely right. But if you tell yourself you can.
630
00:29:29.190 --> 00:29:30.049
You're also right.
631
00:29:30.130 --> 00:29:34.029
You're also right. Mm-hmm. Right. Your subliminal doesn't know. It
632
00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:35.390
doesn't know the difference. Yeah.
633
00:29:35.849 --> 00:29:39.900
Okay. So sorry, Lance, I keep skipping over you, but I,
634
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:41.180
have some points I want to make.
635
00:29:41.539 --> 00:29:43.119
So you're writing a book.
636
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:44.880
This is our Olympian. Go for this guy.
637
00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:46.440
No, we love that you're here.
638
00:29:46.460 --> 00:29:49.019
Oh, you're coming to me? No, we love that you're here.
639
00:29:49.299 --> 00:29:52.299
You're writing a book. What are your principles?
640
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:53.259
Yeah.
641
00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:55.759
I want to touch on this before we get carried away.
642
00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:59.849
Yeah. So that's how we met. we met at a
643
00:29:59.890 --> 00:30:04.470
writer's retreat. And that was an amazing thing because I mean,
644
00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:09.579
the personally lot, Bridget, really made me believe that everyone
645
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.140
in that room, that our stories are worth telling. Everyone
646
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.299
has a story worth telling, right? Even I didn't believe me,
647
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.809
but my story is worth telling. Finally realizing that it was,
648
00:30:18.829 --> 00:30:21.089
I was like, okay, if I have, I mean, that's
649
00:30:21.690 --> 00:30:23.269
an honor to be able to tell your story, right?
650
00:30:23.329 --> 00:30:26.529
And how do you teach it and tell it? For me,
651
00:30:27.829 --> 00:30:31.140
Going out into the real world after being an Olympic athlete,
652
00:30:31.859 --> 00:30:34.720
I see Olympic excellence in a lot of people. I
653
00:30:35.019 --> 00:30:38.440
see that amazingness in people in all walks of life.
654
00:30:40.029 --> 00:30:42.190
And I admire it. When I see someone that's high level,
655
00:30:42.210 --> 00:30:45.329
I'm like, okay, I see you. Like, that's okay. Good job, right?
656
00:30:46.170 --> 00:30:48.329
And I see people that are on the cusp, like
657
00:30:48.470 --> 00:30:52.420
they're right there of being there, but they need to
658
00:30:52.430 --> 00:30:54.039
believe in themselves more. I'm like, man, I want to
659
00:30:54.099 --> 00:30:56.460
help them. I want to help raise them. Because the
660
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.799
one thing I learned as an Olympic athlete is I
661
00:30:58.819 --> 00:31:01.480
would have never got to the level I did without
662
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:02.210
people pushing me up.
663
00:31:02.500 --> 00:31:02.599
Yeah.
664
00:31:02.660 --> 00:31:05.700
Without people believing me. Without people showing me love on
665
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.009
my hard days. And, like, I would have never done it.
666
00:31:08.859 --> 00:31:10.240
And so it's like, I want to be the person
667
00:31:10.259 --> 00:31:12.859
that helps push other people. Like, how cool is it
668
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:14.579
that I got this bright side? Now I can give
669
00:31:14.619 --> 00:31:17.819
that back. That's mastering. That's what we talk about today.
670
00:31:17.980 --> 00:31:20.539
It's mastering. Once you get to a certain level, you
671
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.309
can come back and you can give. And it's like
672
00:31:22.369 --> 00:31:23.420
a cycle, right?
673
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:23.640
Yeah.
674
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:28.069
And so I've realized, okay, what is it that helped
675
00:31:28.089 --> 00:31:30.710
me get to this high level? What was my mindset?
676
00:31:30.789 --> 00:31:33.769
Because I wasn't the best athlete. I wasn't the best
677
00:31:33.809 --> 00:31:35.650
of this or that. But I got to be number
678
00:31:35.670 --> 00:31:37.789
one in the world in the sport. Like, crazy when
679
00:31:37.809 --> 00:31:40.849
you think about it. Be number one. Because I just
680
00:31:41.049 --> 00:31:44.099
figured stuff out and I had the right mindset. I
681
00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:46.240
just was like, okay, well, that didn't work. Let's figure
682
00:31:46.259 --> 00:31:48.190
out something more. Okay, I'm not as fast as you.
683
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:49.640
I mean, how do I beat him? How do I
684
00:31:49.660 --> 00:31:53.180
beat that person? Like, just figure it out, right? Yeah. And...
685
00:31:54.099 --> 00:31:56.799
I use things that later on I realize, like, well,
686
00:31:56.819 --> 00:31:58.799
those are kind of jabs. Like, those things I use
687
00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:01.450
could help other people. So, like, my first principle is
688
00:32:01.470 --> 00:32:04.869
going headfirst into life. It's about leaning into fear. It's
689
00:32:04.910 --> 00:32:07.150
about getting out of our comfort zone. It's about taking
690
00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:09.490
the swing. Because if you don't take the swing, you
691
00:32:09.529 --> 00:32:11.970
never know if it will happen or not. And I
692
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.759
think a lot of people let fear run the show.
693
00:32:15.380 --> 00:32:16.240
Oh, it's true.
694
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.970
And I... I take fear. I'm like, okay, I see you. Like,
695
00:32:21.029 --> 00:32:22.410
thanks for trying to keep me alive. I know this
696
00:32:22.470 --> 00:32:25.900
isn't the best idea. But I believe in myself that
697
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:31.839
I can do this. Right? You go where you're looking. Visions. She. Like, visions.
698
00:32:32.490 --> 00:32:33.789
Well, and I love what you said that fear is
699
00:32:33.809 --> 00:32:36.190
trying to keep you alive. It's like fear has its place.
700
00:32:36.420 --> 00:32:38.240
Like fear has its spot, but we also need to
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00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:39.819
address it and talk to him and be like, thank you.
702
00:32:40.259 --> 00:32:42.140
Thanks for doing this. But I actually got this, you know,
703
00:32:42.539 --> 00:32:43.380
I'm actually okay.
704
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.319
It's like the Pixar movie with like the little emotions, right?
705
00:32:46.339 --> 00:32:48.660
It's like, okay, fear. You're like, I see you. You're
706
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.700
like my, you're, you're part of the crew, but I'm
707
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.750
not going to let you run the show. And then
708
00:32:52.789 --> 00:32:54.569
the show, like you see when emotions run the show,
709
00:32:54.609 --> 00:32:57.289
what happens, right? They were, so it's kind of like
710
00:32:57.329 --> 00:33:01.039
the same type of thing. Um, And yeah, I do
711
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:02.890
a lot of stuff that scares the crap out of
712
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.970
me all the time because it makes me feel alive.
713
00:33:06.730 --> 00:33:09.049
I like to get on my comfort zone. Who doesn't
714
00:33:09.069 --> 00:33:10.950
like to feel alive, right?
715
00:33:11.829 --> 00:33:13.190
It's amazing, right?
716
00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:13.970
It really is.
717
00:33:14.109 --> 00:33:16.299
That's why we go on trips together. And it's amazing
718
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.000
to get out there and feel alive. You never know
719
00:33:19.019 --> 00:33:20.839
what the day's going to be like, but it's always good.
720
00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:23.180
You guys have some fun adventures.
721
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:24.980
I love that.
722
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.299
It's kind of beautiful if you open your mind up
723
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.559
to possibilities of people and opportunities.
724
00:33:30.150 --> 00:33:32.039
You might end up at an ostrich farm and ball
725
00:33:32.059 --> 00:33:33.640
gowns you really could you never.
726
00:33:36.740 --> 00:33:40.599
Know yeah and so the next thing was you go
727
00:33:40.619 --> 00:33:43.279
where you're looking i love the power of vision the
728
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:47.680
power of manifesting your mind but vision boards um you
729
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.299
know just it all works together and believing yourself and
730
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.700
then the next one is embodiment like i know a
731
00:33:54.740 --> 00:33:56.900
lot of people that have dreams i know i have
732
00:33:56.940 --> 00:33:59.299
a lot of people that have like the the I
733
00:33:59.339 --> 00:34:01.240
could be this. I wish I could do this, but
734
00:34:01.259 --> 00:34:03.500
they don't do the actions to embody it. They don't
735
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:06.259
do the actions to become it. And so I literally
736
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.920
had to become an Olympian before I was Olympian, which
737
00:34:09.179 --> 00:34:12.219
talk about feeling like a fraud. It's like, okay, if
738
00:34:12.260 --> 00:34:14.219
I'm going to be this, I have to live this
739
00:34:15.070 --> 00:34:16.860
and to live something that high and be like, lay
740
00:34:16.909 --> 00:34:21.130
out this way. And they're like, okay, but I own it. Yeah.
741
00:34:21.889 --> 00:34:23.809
And I embody it. And I'm like, okay, I'm waking
742
00:34:23.849 --> 00:34:28.360
up today. And what does an Olympian do? What do
743
00:34:28.380 --> 00:34:30.110
I do when I get out of bed today? And
744
00:34:30.139 --> 00:34:33.449
I go into the world as that. I like that.
745
00:34:33.510 --> 00:34:35.989
And I rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, and stay
746
00:34:36.030 --> 00:34:39.309
with it. And before you know it, holy crap, you
747
00:34:39.329 --> 00:34:42.489
create it, right? And it takes that embodiment. And I
748
00:34:42.510 --> 00:34:44.170
see a lot of people, you want to be the
749
00:34:44.190 --> 00:34:46.510
best CPA, the best barista, whatever you want to be
750
00:34:46.530 --> 00:34:48.860
in the world. Do you wake up every day and
751
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.340
do you embody that thing? And a lot of people don't.
752
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.880
A lot of people say they want this, they see this,
753
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:55.980
and then they don't embody that.
754
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.619
It's a vision that you've already arrived. You're already there.
755
00:34:58.639 --> 00:34:59.639
You're already living that life.
756
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.929
You have to be it. Because that's the only way
757
00:35:01.949 --> 00:35:05.630
you can become it. You have to be it. And
758
00:35:05.690 --> 00:35:08.849
your energy has to be that. And then my fourth
759
00:35:09.030 --> 00:35:12.949
principle is it's accelerate through the curves. So my sport,
760
00:35:13.190 --> 00:35:14.639
I got to be really good at sport because I
761
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.340
learned how to manipulate and steers and physics and find
762
00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:22.460
speed and create speed in corners. Like anyone can go.
763
00:35:22.940 --> 00:35:25.460
fast and straight away in my life. When things are easy,
764
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.409
it's easy to be uneasy, right? But it's when we
765
00:35:28.449 --> 00:35:31.110
hit curves, some people accelerate through the curves, some people
766
00:35:31.130 --> 00:35:33.409
slow up through the curves. It's just like in life, right?
767
00:35:33.429 --> 00:35:37.349
And so it's like, it fits really well. And so
768
00:35:37.409 --> 00:35:39.510
the same thing that helped me do, be good at sport,
769
00:35:39.530 --> 00:35:42.420
it's like, okay, well that, whatever happens to you, it's like, okay,
770
00:35:42.460 --> 00:35:44.099
how do you use it? How do you use it
771
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.079
as something that pulls you back into the past and
772
00:35:46.099 --> 00:35:48.679
the hitching pose that keeps you stunned? Or do you
773
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:50.320
turn it and then use it as something that pushes
774
00:35:50.340 --> 00:35:53.480
you forward? And the same thing can be both.
775
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:56.239
Love that.
776
00:35:56.300 --> 00:35:59.110
And then the last thing is enjoy the freaking journey. Yes.
777
00:35:59.119 --> 00:35:59.320
Amen.
778
00:35:59.389 --> 00:36:02.489
Love that. Why not have fun?
779
00:36:02.670 --> 00:36:04.010
Yeah. It's not so serious.
780
00:36:04.030 --> 00:36:07.489
It's actually really, really cool that we're here. Yeah. Why
781
00:36:07.510 --> 00:36:08.070
so serious?
782
00:36:08.409 --> 00:36:09.690
There's no reason for it.
783
00:36:10.329 --> 00:36:10.650
Okay.
784
00:36:11.409 --> 00:36:12.409
Was that your last one?
785
00:36:12.449 --> 00:36:13.840
Yeah, that was it. Okay.
786
00:36:14.460 --> 00:36:17.019
So I feel like this ties into you perfectly because
787
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.039
you talked about like having no fear on the outside.
788
00:36:21.420 --> 00:36:24.139
And just going headfirst into big projects at a young age,
789
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.400
which would terrify me in my 30s.
790
00:36:27.300 --> 00:36:30.239
So like what made it happen at 17? Like what
791
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.889
was that driving force? And then also at some point
792
00:36:33.909 --> 00:36:36.789
you transitioned. So what did that look like?
793
00:36:37.889 --> 00:36:46.079
Well, I was scared. Like fear was actually the original
794
00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:49.920
motivation because I mean, I thought I was going to
795
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:51.159
take over my dad's company.
796
00:36:51.179 --> 00:36:51.380
Yeah.
797
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.480
I thought I.
798
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.860
Was going to take over his company. So I was like,
799
00:36:55.980 --> 00:37:01.210
now what? He just closed it. What a dick. And
800
00:37:01.269 --> 00:37:02.070
I love my dad.
801
00:37:02.130 --> 00:37:03.849
No, it's actually a blessing.
802
00:37:03.889 --> 00:37:06.989
But it was like, and I literally walked down the
803
00:37:07.030 --> 00:37:11.269
street and I rented the apartment from the governor at
804
00:37:11.289 --> 00:37:15.070
the time, Norm Bangerter, who ended up, and be careful
805
00:37:15.090 --> 00:37:15.900
what you manifest.
806
00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:19.460
I want to tell everyone, be careful what you manifest.
807
00:37:20.340 --> 00:37:23.150
I always called him my stepdad because his youngest son
808
00:37:23.190 --> 00:37:23.929
was my best friend.
809
00:37:24.190 --> 00:37:28.050
He became my stepdad. My mom ended up marrying the governor.
810
00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:30.429
Oh, my gosh. How funny is that?
811
00:37:30.550 --> 00:37:34.809
From the guy that I bought the apartments from. So, yeah. Yeah,
812
00:37:34.829 --> 00:37:38.340
I'm literally standing at the state capitol negotiating with him
813
00:37:38.380 --> 00:37:41.619
at 18 with no money with a rep see that
814
00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:43.440
I made up at the library because I didn't have
815
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:48.320
money for a real estate attorney or a realtor. Yeah. Yeah.
816
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.400
So I wrote up all the contracts myself. But then
817
00:37:51.420 --> 00:37:53.019
I had to go get a loan. That's a whole
818
00:37:53.219 --> 00:37:58.860
other podcast. Somebody finally believed in me after 20 banks.
819
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.610
So it was crazy. But there's another word and it
820
00:38:02.650 --> 00:38:05.190
happens to be my little granddaughter's name.
821
00:38:05.869 --> 00:38:09.650
And this word is all in. O-L-L-I-N. It's an ancient
822
00:38:09.789 --> 00:38:13.110
Aztec word that means to move and act with all
823
00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:18.090
your heart. Oh, wow. The English version is all in, right?
824
00:38:18.139 --> 00:38:22.320
Two words. But this word, and her nickname is Ollie. Oh,
825
00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:22.760
I love that.
826
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:26.019
She's this beautiful, one of the most beautiful humans on
827
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:28.699
the planet. And so her name is Ollie and stuff.
828
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:30.260
But all in.
829
00:38:30.739 --> 00:38:33.880
And that really encompasses what I said earlier, like ignorance
830
00:38:33.940 --> 00:38:37.849
on fire, right? I found myself being introduced to 10,000
831
00:38:37.849 --> 00:38:40.550
people at a convention in Vegas of a company that
832
00:38:40.570 --> 00:38:41.230
I invested in.
833
00:38:41.230 --> 00:38:43.960
They're like, Lance, we want you to open this thing up.
834
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:50.179
Bring the energy. I'm like, Okay. So I went out
835
00:38:50.219 --> 00:38:52.239
on stage with one of my favorite rock bands, and
836
00:38:52.260 --> 00:38:55.110
they're like, what is he doing? It was Rat, Lay
837
00:38:55.130 --> 00:38:57.369
It Down. Oh, my God. Right?
838
00:38:57.429 --> 00:38:58.969
No way.
839
00:38:59.750 --> 00:39:03.489
He's like, I'll be excited. Just listen to the intro riff, right?
840
00:39:03.570 --> 00:39:05.659
And the six guys are in the green room like,
841
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:09.780
he's going to ruin our company. What are we going
842
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.059
to do? Yeah. So I made my really nice suit.
843
00:39:12.099 --> 00:39:13.659
I got a money chain. I'm in Vegas.
844
00:39:13.780 --> 00:39:16.579
And I put this Afro on my head walking down
845
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.420
the hall of the green room. And they're like, no.
846
00:39:19.500 --> 00:39:21.750
And I went out on stage and I'm like, yeah.
847
00:39:22.510 --> 00:39:24.210
And the whole crowd comes out of their things and
848
00:39:24.230 --> 00:39:26.670
they're like, you could have really messed things up.
849
00:39:26.809 --> 00:39:28.889
I said, well, you told me to breathe the energy.
850
00:39:28.909 --> 00:39:33.019
So here we are. But to move and act with
851
00:39:33.059 --> 00:39:36.800
all your heart, like we don't have the next steps. Right.
852
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.679
But, but if you're, if you're right, use this as
853
00:39:40.699 --> 00:39:43.679
a guide, not, Somebody that controls.
854
00:39:43.699 --> 00:39:44.460
Right.
855
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.460
And I found early on that, well, not early on,
856
00:39:47.539 --> 00:39:49.909
in my 40s, I was like, I need to ask
857
00:39:49.969 --> 00:39:56.110
my heart. And I've been in numerous situations and spaces
858
00:39:56.210 --> 00:39:58.300
to where my higher self has come back to me
859
00:39:58.340 --> 00:40:00.440
and says, did you ask from your heart?
860
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.380
And it says, how does it feel first?
861
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.570
So I go into important decisions or confirmations of myself.
862
00:40:09.329 --> 00:40:12.769
I'll think of the pros and cons of everything. And
863
00:40:12.809 --> 00:40:14.130
then I'll say, well, how does it feel?
864
00:40:14.150 --> 00:40:15.730
I like that.
865
00:40:16.030 --> 00:40:18.380
And then what is my gut telling me? Like you,
866
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.440
if you go through that process, I don't think it
867
00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:21.280
will steer you wrong.
868
00:40:21.380 --> 00:40:23.010
Well, and that's kind of what we're trying to tie
869
00:40:23.030 --> 00:40:26.329
in with the all in and with the, the mindset
870
00:40:26.429 --> 00:40:29.869
is it's, you're bringing in the heart and the mind together. You're, you're, you're,
871
00:40:29.969 --> 00:40:32.969
they need to work together. And then you use your intuition,
872
00:40:33.030 --> 00:40:37.170
use your third eye, use your two, we're in the ship. Yeah.
873
00:40:37.289 --> 00:40:40.750
Trust your gut, trust yourself. Right. And the way you
874
00:40:40.769 --> 00:40:43.110
trust yourself is if you have love for yourself. I mean,
875
00:40:43.170 --> 00:40:46.150
it's literally just the all in way. Like, like, And
876
00:40:46.190 --> 00:40:50.000
just get out of your way. It's just the all
877
00:40:50.059 --> 00:40:50.980
in way, like the.
878
00:40:50.900 --> 00:40:53.280
Surrender that we talked about, like move and act with
879
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:56.420
all your heart and then trust yourself.
880
00:40:57.349 --> 00:40:57.590
Ooh.
881
00:40:57.610 --> 00:41:00.869
Cause you know, you know, I mean, come on.
882
00:41:01.110 --> 00:41:03.010
So I'm going back to what Zach said when he
883
00:41:03.030 --> 00:41:05.550
was talking about, it's either fear or excitement. Did you
884
00:41:05.610 --> 00:41:07.409
feel that at some point where you had to like
885
00:41:07.449 --> 00:41:08.550
pull away from fear?
886
00:41:08.570 --> 00:41:12.210
I think there's, I think there's always a transition. Like,
887
00:41:12.250 --> 00:41:15.090
like when you speak or you're going up, like we
888
00:41:15.130 --> 00:41:17.690
all get butterflies, right? Like, Oh my gosh, are they
889
00:41:17.710 --> 00:41:20.110
going to receive me and everything? Like I'll literally just
890
00:41:20.190 --> 00:41:22.170
take a deep breath or two or three deep breaths
891
00:41:23.110 --> 00:41:25.460
and I'll go, okay, you already know this.
892
00:41:25.579 --> 00:41:28.699
You've already felt it. You've embodied it. And then I
893
00:41:28.739 --> 00:41:29.400
just let it all go.
894
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.519
And then you walk out and you see what needs
895
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.699
to be delivered to the hearts of everybody that you're
896
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:36.110
in front of.
897
00:41:36.260 --> 00:41:39.449
It's even the energy you give. It's a giving of energy.
898
00:41:39.469 --> 00:41:43.170
Like speaking, everything we do, you're giving. It's like, what
899
00:41:43.409 --> 00:41:45.369
do I want them to receive from this? And don't
900
00:41:45.389 --> 00:41:47.150
get so caught up in your head about like, it'd
901
00:41:47.170 --> 00:41:49.590
be perfect. No such thing as perfect. Just go out
902
00:41:49.630 --> 00:41:52.880
and do it. And the heart. Yeah. And good things
903
00:41:52.900 --> 00:41:54.679
will happen. And I think the greatest thing that we
904
00:41:54.699 --> 00:41:59.519
have is our presence. Yes. Being present. Being present right here.
905
00:41:59.619 --> 00:42:00.260
Being present.
906
00:42:01.550 --> 00:42:06.070
Just be present with somebody. Put your phone down. Be present.
907
00:42:06.349 --> 00:42:09.590
Because that's where creation is made. Well, it's the only
908
00:42:09.610 --> 00:42:12.090
thing that's real. The past and the future aren't real.
909
00:42:12.289 --> 00:42:17.030
Nope. All we have is this moment. And so it's like,
910
00:42:17.070 --> 00:42:19.329
why not be in this moment? Yeah.
911
00:42:19.690 --> 00:42:22.219
My kids have tried to show me how time is
912
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.079
not real. And I'm like, yeah, but time gave me
913
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:27.760
you and now I don't have you. So tell me
914
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.739
that's not real. And so it's just crazy when you
915
00:42:30.900 --> 00:42:34.320
try to change your perspective of life. So many things
916
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:38.889
can be happening all at the same time in different dimensions.
917
00:42:39.489 --> 00:42:40.389
It's so wild.
918
00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:42.880
So they were teaching about Kronos and Cryos and all.
919
00:42:43.059 --> 00:42:43.559
Never mind.
920
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:44.500
They're really advanced.
921
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.320
Yeah, well, no.
922
00:42:47.500 --> 00:42:49.969
They keep it really simple for me. Kind of simple mind.
923
00:42:50.179 --> 00:42:50.949
Very simple mind.
924
00:42:51.250 --> 00:42:53.449
The matter of time. I love it.
925
00:42:53.750 --> 00:42:56.469
And I kept thinking back to in the moments that
926
00:42:56.530 --> 00:42:58.769
you're about to go on stage, the moments that you're
927
00:42:58.789 --> 00:43:00.860
going into your job for the first time. You're trying
928
00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:02.159
to get the job. You're trying to get the loan
929
00:43:02.179 --> 00:43:05.059
at the bank. And you have those moments of fear
930
00:43:05.099 --> 00:43:07.920
that we talked about earlier that may feel crushed in
931
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.280
the moment. And I think it's always important to go
932
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.670
back to source and go back to, for me, I
933
00:43:13.730 --> 00:43:17.090
pause and I picture my higher self looking down on
934
00:43:17.130 --> 00:43:20.250
me in the messy, in the moment, in the hardship,
935
00:43:20.550 --> 00:43:24.789
in the choices and be like, I actually, I fucking
936
00:43:24.829 --> 00:43:25.110
love you.
937
00:43:26.170 --> 00:43:27.389
I love you.
938
00:43:28.030 --> 00:43:31.250
I love you how you are. Right now, no matter
939
00:43:31.269 --> 00:43:35.230
what you do, you are love. You are love. And
940
00:43:35.250 --> 00:43:38.820
I think when it's so important for us to channel
941
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:41.719
that message down so that we can bring that energy,
942
00:43:41.900 --> 00:43:43.960
we can share the love, we can share the light.
943
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.440
But it has to be, like you said, come from source,
944
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:48.900
come from ourself, which we are.
945
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:54.690
It comes from a place of truth, not inventing something
946
00:43:55.139 --> 00:43:56.119
that isn't true to you.
947
00:43:56.510 --> 00:43:56.699
Yeah.
948
00:43:57.590 --> 00:44:03.670
Yeah, like we're talking about embodying it. Yeah. Ski. Ski?
949
00:44:04.309 --> 00:44:09.190
It's ski. Oh, ski. Hey, just because it's winter sports.
950
00:44:10.150 --> 00:44:12.389
I was like, can I just ski on your skis?
951
00:44:12.449 --> 00:44:13.820
Is that possible? We have you.
952
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.460
It's just good that there's a few special people in
953
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:31.039
this room. I'm very special person as well.
954
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:33.739
Yes. Yes. I love that. Okay.
955
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:35.300
So what other things are you guys working on?
956
00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:35.960
That's it.
957
00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:38.110
Just learning to embody.
958
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:46.190
Just being special. Just being special. Just being special. We
959
00:44:46.369 --> 00:44:50.190
are just, it's exciting time because we're creating, we're, we're,
960
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.000
Seeing the vision right now, it's like we're like, wow,
961
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:56.500
what can we do with this? And I think we
962
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:00.239
both just want to have a lot of purpose and
963
00:45:00.260 --> 00:45:03.000
a lot of fun. Yeah. And we want to be
964
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:06.090
having fun, like what we call work. Why not make
965
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.789
work be magical? Right. Why not? Like there's days like
966
00:45:10.070 --> 00:45:13.309
we see this often. Like we were at my cabin
967
00:45:13.329 --> 00:45:15.630
right by the stream and we were sitting there brainstorming
968
00:45:15.650 --> 00:45:17.610
and I was like, hey, Lance, it's like we're working
969
00:45:17.650 --> 00:45:22.110
right now. I know. It's like, where you're like, in nature,
970
00:45:22.150 --> 00:45:23.840
it's beautiful, and why not create that?
971
00:45:25.289 --> 00:45:26.289
That's how it's supposed to be.
972
00:45:26.409 --> 00:45:28.070
It's true. It's true.
973
00:45:28.230 --> 00:45:30.889
Your highest frequency, your highest everything has got to happen
974
00:45:30.929 --> 00:45:32.550
in fun. You've got to access that.
975
00:45:32.710 --> 00:45:34.449
Was that the memory that came to you of us
976
00:45:34.820 --> 00:45:35.110
in St.
977
00:45:35.139 --> 00:45:36.030
Lucia? Mm-hmm.
978
00:45:36.510 --> 00:45:38.219
One day we were doing a podcast on the beach
979
00:45:38.260 --> 00:45:38.510
in St.
980
00:45:38.550 --> 00:45:38.909
Lucia.
981
00:45:39.059 --> 00:45:41.039
Early in the morning as the sun's coming up, I'm like,
982
00:45:41.059 --> 00:45:41.960
can you believe we're.
983
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:42.480
Working right now?
984
00:45:42.500 --> 00:45:42.820
I know.
985
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.360
This is his day. This is what we're doing.
986
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:49.340
Work trip. Yeah. It's amazing. But why not? Why not?
987
00:45:49.420 --> 00:45:53.619
Why not have creation and stuff in place? That's something
988
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.739
that we are really working towards is nature, being in nature,
989
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.920
being in the elements. Because I think that that's where
990
00:46:00.940 --> 00:46:03.989
we're getting away from as humans. We're getting so disconnected
991
00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:04.510
from the earth.
992
00:46:05.190 --> 00:46:05.429
Yeah.
993
00:46:05.909 --> 00:46:10.909
From shoes to concrete to pavement to electronics to, you know.
994
00:46:11.409 --> 00:46:14.389
And we're getting farther and farther away from Mother Earth
995
00:46:14.769 --> 00:46:17.909
and from nature. And I find that the greatest... gifts
996
00:46:18.110 --> 00:46:20.690
I find is when I reconnect with nature. Yeah. Like
997
00:46:20.710 --> 00:46:22.989
getting back to the basics, right? Like I love to
998
00:46:23.050 --> 00:46:23.969
teach from the elements.
999
00:46:24.789 --> 00:46:29.269
Like I'm complete water, Pisces, you know, the flow and,
1000
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.199
and the fire, the passion, you know, the spirit, the
1001
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.119
spirit of Genshai, the spirit of what we're doing, right?
1002
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:36.460
Yeah.
1003
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:40.639
The wind breathing life into somebody, inspiring the You know,
1004
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.039
it's really the embodiment of who we are. And I
1005
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.940
was going with that because we have a nonprofit as
1006
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.239
well that's basic human needs. So we built this quadrant
1007
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:54.440
for food and water, shelter, health and education. When basic
1008
00:46:54.460 --> 00:46:57.579
human needs are met, people create. People can create.
1009
00:46:57.619 --> 00:47:01.260
So our whole premise is how many people can we
1010
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.039
get back into creation mode from survival mode?
1011
00:47:04.500 --> 00:47:04.739
Yeah.
1012
00:47:05.019 --> 00:47:07.300
So it's not only the people that can't provide for
1013
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:08.539
themselves the basic human needs.
1014
00:47:08.619 --> 00:47:09.139
It's us.
1015
00:47:10.219 --> 00:47:12.340
Like a lot of times we're all scrambling for the
1016
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:17.360
same thing. So we'll bring in some of the top
1017
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.650
thought leaders and everything. We have a thing called bands
1018
00:47:21.710 --> 00:47:25.630
and brands that is unbelievable. It's going to be amazing.
1019
00:47:25.909 --> 00:47:27.570
We're talking to all the top bands in the world.
1020
00:47:27.849 --> 00:47:28.510
I love this.
1021
00:47:28.630 --> 00:47:31.389
I won't say some of them, but there's ones that
1022
00:47:31.409 --> 00:47:34.050
will go on tour that you guys know very, very well.
1023
00:47:34.869 --> 00:47:37.489
They want to make a difference, just like anyone else.
1024
00:47:37.769 --> 00:47:42.469
And we're helping nonprofits. That's amazing. Solve the problems of fundraising,
1025
00:47:42.929 --> 00:47:45.849
and they'll be raising money daily. It's probably going to
1026
00:47:45.869 --> 00:47:47.219
be the biggest part of your job. It's going to
1027
00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:47.969
be the nonprofits.
1028
00:47:47.989 --> 00:47:50.719
Do you know what's beautiful about that? It was probably
1029
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.300
like 20 years ago. I was outside of Ketos on
1030
00:47:54.340 --> 00:47:56.679
the Amazon, and we were going to these villages, giving
1031
00:47:56.699 --> 00:48:00.480
them wealth, basic things that they need, clean water and whatnot.
1032
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.039
And sitting there, and I heard some people that I
1033
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.260
was there with being like, oh, my God, I can't believe, like,
1034
00:48:07.300 --> 00:48:10.130
I feel so bad. And I sat there with people
1035
00:48:10.150 --> 00:48:12.550
and I was like, these are the happiest people I've
1036
00:48:12.630 --> 00:48:13.469
ever met.
1037
00:48:14.110 --> 00:48:15.349
You had to smile.
1038
00:48:15.389 --> 00:48:17.269
They are still drift at age 80 because they're going
1039
00:48:17.309 --> 00:48:19.269
out and working all day and coming home to their families.
1040
00:48:19.309 --> 00:48:21.010
Their community is set up in a circle.
1041
00:48:21.030 --> 00:48:21.409
Yeah.
1042
00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:23.090
They are here giving to each other. I was like,
1043
00:48:23.550 --> 00:48:25.510
we have nothing to offer them except for water.
1044
00:48:25.530 --> 00:48:26.030
Yeah.
1045
00:48:26.130 --> 00:48:27.730
They already have everything.
1046
00:48:27.750 --> 00:48:29.190
I love that you see that.
1047
00:48:29.349 --> 00:48:30.550
Like they have everything.
1048
00:48:30.570 --> 00:48:31.010
It's so true.
1049
00:48:31.110 --> 00:48:34.590
They have everything that we don't have. They don't have depression.
1050
00:48:34.610 --> 00:48:38.670
They don't have anxiety. They have it figured out. Like,
1051
00:48:38.690 --> 00:48:40.929
come help us. Come do meditation with us.
1052
00:48:40.949 --> 00:48:43.090
Yeah. And that's one of the gifts of travel, right?
1053
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:43.699
Right.
1054
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:47.420
So, yeah, you just inspired me to say something. But
1055
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.559
I spent two weeks in the mangrove forest of Bangladesh
1056
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:51.480
with monks.
1057
00:48:52.130 --> 00:48:52.769
Oh, I love that.
1058
00:48:52.829 --> 00:48:53.769
Living off of a boat.
1059
00:48:53.869 --> 00:48:57.519
So I'm sitting there with these monks daily for four
1060
00:48:57.539 --> 00:48:59.539
or five hours just staring at these guys.
1061
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:08.780
And I'm like, why am I here? Okay. Sitting on cardboard.
1062
00:49:08.820 --> 00:49:13.170
I'm in these big temples with this golden whatever they have.
1063
00:49:14.030 --> 00:49:17.230
And I was there for about two weeks. And it
1064
00:49:17.269 --> 00:49:20.070
was right after Benghazi. So when we landed, we had...
1065
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.500
they had to escort me and my dear friend Kristen
1066
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:27.880
with machine guns to our hotel because there's 15,000 people
1067
00:49:27.940 --> 00:49:29.199
protesting America in.
1068
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.699
Bangladesh. And I had cut off news.
1069
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.820
I didn't know because I cut off the news and
1070
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.780
everything decades ago. I don't know what's going on most
1071
00:49:41.860 --> 00:49:44.539
of the time. My mom and dad will call me
1072
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:44.760
and go.
1073
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:46.760
Did you know this was going on? I'm like, No,
1074
00:49:46.780 --> 00:49:52.760
but thanks for telling me. Yeah, I should probably stay
1075
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.639
in touch a little more. So, so I'm with them
1076
00:49:55.989 --> 00:49:59.570
and I would sit there and stare at them and stuff. But, um, we,
1077
00:49:59.769 --> 00:50:03.570
we took this little boat over to this Island and
1078
00:50:03.650 --> 00:50:05.530
we had to have bodyguards with us the whole time
1079
00:50:05.590 --> 00:50:10.090
with guns, like the entire trip. And the kids over there,
1080
00:50:10.530 --> 00:50:13.960
our translator didn't even know the dialect that these kids
1081
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.960
were speaking on this Island. So he's like, I've never
1082
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:17.659
heard this before.
1083
00:50:18.380 --> 00:50:20.539
But I started playing some of my music on my
1084
00:50:20.619 --> 00:50:23.880
phone and we all started dancing together. And then I
1085
00:50:23.900 --> 00:50:26.860
was telling them about the love sign. Like I was
1086
00:50:26.909 --> 00:50:29.570
thinking of, you know, we learn from signs and symbols, right?
1087
00:50:29.849 --> 00:50:33.369
Like we embody that in imaging. So I was teaching
1088
00:50:33.429 --> 00:50:36.670
them love and I played the song. It was about
1089
00:50:36.710 --> 00:50:38.650
love and we're all dancing and we're doing this and
1090
00:50:38.909 --> 00:50:40.150
this is what it means and stuff.
1091
00:50:41.260 --> 00:50:41.389
And.
1092
00:50:42.250 --> 00:50:46.820
And I started yodeling and doing all this crazy stuff.
1093
00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:54.500
And so we're leaving the island. And all these kids
1094
00:50:54.900 --> 00:50:57.420
lined the shore.
1095
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:01.389
And they're doing this. Impact.
1096
00:51:01.489 --> 00:51:02.360
That is huge impact.
1097
00:51:02.409 --> 00:51:03.170
And they're doing this.
1098
00:51:04.090 --> 00:51:06.150
And I always like to serve when I'm going and
1099
00:51:06.190 --> 00:51:09.710
traveling and stuff. So the next morning, Kristen and I catered.
1100
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.739
And we went and served and brought toys and everything
1101
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:17.659
to the Ronald McDonald version of the hospital in Bangladesh.
1102
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.019
They have nothing in this. The food's basic. The parents
1103
00:51:22.059 --> 00:51:24.420
are there with their kids that have cancer and everything.
1104
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:29.460
They're dying. There's hundreds of them. We're lining their main floor.
1105
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:31.920
And I had food brought in. We brought in toys
1106
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:34.159
for the kids and everything. They didn't have any toys, nothing.
1107
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.289
And they're like, speak, speak, speak. And we're like, Well,
1108
00:51:39.309 --> 00:51:41.980
I just learned that something was really bad that happened
1109
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:46.159
from America to here. We literally were traveling out of
1110
00:51:46.420 --> 00:51:49.949
the jungle. We got caught in an anti-American protest.
1111
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:50.789
Oh boy.
1112
00:51:51.710 --> 00:51:54.170
Like I'm in the van. There's only four of us.
1113
00:51:54.369 --> 00:51:56.710
And they said, hey, if they break the windows, we'll
1114
00:51:56.730 --> 00:51:59.079
tell you what to do next, Lance. Because I'm six
1115
00:51:59.119 --> 00:51:59.659
foot dorky.
1116
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:00.820
Because we don't really know.
1117
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.960
I'm a six foot dorky blonde haired guy with a
1118
00:52:04.980 --> 00:52:06.739
New York Yankees ball cap on.
1119
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:07.579
From America.
1120
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:08.599
Maybe ditch that.
1121
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.909
From America. All windows. And there's 2,000 people rocking our van.
1122
00:52:13.949 --> 00:52:16.789
We're stuck in town square. And I'm like, I'm dying today.
1123
00:52:17.329 --> 00:52:17.789
This is it.
1124
00:52:17.849 --> 00:52:21.360
I'm legitimately dying today. Like they're going to dismember me.
1125
00:52:21.380 --> 00:52:24.460
Like legit. I'm my last text to my daughter's on
1126
00:52:24.500 --> 00:52:28.239
my phone and I'm ready to send push and I'm
1127
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.659
scared to death. And the interpreters are like, just stay in.
1128
00:52:32.489 --> 00:52:33.309
I was invisible.
1129
00:52:34.269 --> 00:52:38.789
I had two or 300 orange beard, burning American flags
1130
00:52:39.050 --> 00:52:42.429
in town square, rocking the van. And I was invisible.
1131
00:52:42.469 --> 00:52:44.849
They were staring at me and I'm staring through their eyes.
1132
00:52:44.869 --> 00:52:47.630
They did not see me. We get out of town square.
1133
00:52:47.789 --> 00:52:50.159
We did not talk for two hours going.
1134
00:52:51.380 --> 00:52:53.519
Yeah. So the next morning at.
1135
00:52:53.510 --> 00:52:57.059
The hospital, I'm sitting there and they go speak, speak, speak.
1136
00:52:57.300 --> 00:52:59.460
And I'm like, well, I just want to share with you.
1137
00:52:59.579 --> 00:53:01.920
We want the same thing for our families as you do.
1138
00:53:02.980 --> 00:53:05.559
I see you guys struggling with your, your, your kids
1139
00:53:05.579 --> 00:53:08.960
and helping them the best way you can. That's why
1140
00:53:09.019 --> 00:53:10.760
we're here today. And I'm here to put a face
1141
00:53:11.090 --> 00:53:13.670
to a nation that you despise. Like I would have
1142
00:53:13.690 --> 00:53:15.929
been dead yesterday if I'd gotten out of that van.
1143
00:53:16.570 --> 00:53:18.409
But I want you to know that I love you.
1144
00:53:19.409 --> 00:53:21.389
We love the same thing for you. I'm putting a
1145
00:53:21.469 --> 00:53:25.269
face on a nation that you need to see that is.
1146
00:53:25.269 --> 00:53:28.480
Here to serve and love. And we were all crying.
1147
00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:30.579
And then I taught all the kids in the family
1148
00:53:30.699 --> 00:53:32.699
this again at the hospital.
1149
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:35.309
We're done. We serve. We cleaned up.
1150
00:53:35.699 --> 00:53:39.019
We're walking down the hall and the parents and the kids,
1151
00:53:39.500 --> 00:53:44.099
and we locked, we locked all the way down. And
1152
00:53:44.139 --> 00:53:47.440
I just, I just balled the whole time. I was just,
1153
00:53:47.820 --> 00:53:50.280
and we walked out and I says, we need, we
1154
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.039
need to do more of this. Well, it just goes
1155
00:53:52.059 --> 00:53:53.440
to show that we're just all human.
1156
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:55.659
We were all like, yeah, we have borders and we
1157
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:57.889
have countries and we have all these things that divide us.
1158
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.980
But really, we're all just one, right? And that's the
1159
00:54:02.019 --> 00:54:04.639
beauty with what we're doing with Genshai is we want
1160
00:54:04.659 --> 00:54:07.320
to start bringing communities back together. We want to bring
1161
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:11.980
people back to being connected. Exactly. Because we've lost so
1162
00:54:12.019 --> 00:54:15.449
much connection. And people just need that. You can see
1163
00:54:15.469 --> 00:54:17.090
it in people. Crave it.
1164
00:54:17.869 --> 00:54:21.590
Well, and also to understand that our differences makes an
1165
00:54:21.710 --> 00:54:25.130
integral part of society. Like, we need that. It's not
1166
00:54:25.170 --> 00:54:29.090
a comparison. It's not a. contrasting from me to you
1167
00:54:29.150 --> 00:54:32.550
and who's better, who's worse. It's, we need everybody. We
1168
00:54:32.590 --> 00:54:35.230
need everybody's gifts and talents exactly as you are. So
1169
00:54:36.110 --> 00:54:37.409
you just need to see.
1170
00:54:37.289 --> 00:54:40.449
It in yourself. Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, absolutely. And that,
1171
00:54:40.489 --> 00:54:44.840
and that's the thing is you, we want to highlight that,
1172
00:54:44.900 --> 00:54:47.619
eliminate that and everything. And that's what getting shy is,
1173
00:54:48.099 --> 00:54:52.309
is providing the inspiration and And then giving the safety,
1174
00:54:52.650 --> 00:54:53.789
because it's hard to go in the world if you
1175
00:54:53.809 --> 00:54:56.590
don't feel safe, right? Yeah. So you have to do
1176
00:54:56.630 --> 00:54:59.409
all these things together to make it all work together. Yeah.
1177
00:54:59.570 --> 00:55:00.190
Trust yourself.
1178
00:55:01.190 --> 00:55:03.380
So say if a man was listening to this podcast
1179
00:55:03.389 --> 00:55:07.900
today and wanted help with how to expand, how to
1180
00:55:07.940 --> 00:55:11.400
really tap into his greatness, are you guys someone they
1181
00:55:11.420 --> 00:55:14.139
could reach out to? The Genshai group? Is it a group?
1182
00:55:14.500 --> 00:55:19.949
Yeah, absolutely. It's just a community. Okay. We're just guides. Yeah,
1183
00:55:19.989 --> 00:55:22.110
I mean, we're creating this.
1184
00:55:23.380 --> 00:55:27.400
Advisory group, if you will, of amazing people that come together.
1185
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:29.579
There's no hierarchy to anything.
1186
00:55:29.739 --> 00:55:32.119
Love it. There's not like a CEO or anything. Maybe
1187
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.000
we're founders. I don't know.
1188
00:55:34.619 --> 00:55:37.949
But it's just a safe community to come in and
1189
00:55:38.010 --> 00:55:43.000
share your heart, be vulnerable, surrender. and just feed off
1190
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.219
of each other's resource so that we can illuminate each other.
1191
00:55:46.500 --> 00:55:47.699
I mean, that's really what it is. It is a
1192
00:55:47.699 --> 00:55:51.510
beautiful community, what we've built so far. It's just amazing.
1193
00:55:51.530 --> 00:55:53.170
It's not just for men, correct?
1194
00:55:53.289 --> 00:55:55.590
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask. Do you
1195
00:55:55.610 --> 00:56:00.150
feel like men struggle with feeling seen and seeing themselves
1196
00:56:00.250 --> 00:56:00.789
more than women?
1197
00:56:00.809 --> 00:56:04.429
You're putting us on the spot right now. No, no, no.
1198
00:56:04.670 --> 00:56:07.429
No, because I feel like a lot of times... The
1199
00:56:07.530 --> 00:56:08.230
answer is yes.
1200
00:56:08.389 --> 00:56:10.789
Yeah, because I mean.
1201
00:56:11.429 --> 00:56:14.449
I'm in a relationship and I noticed that when my
1202
00:56:14.510 --> 00:56:19.050
man feels very depleted, it breaks my heart because it's like,
1203
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:21.920
who's going to pour into them if we don't help
1204
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:22.800
them see their greatness?
1205
00:56:23.539 --> 00:56:28.119
Well, I mean, there's a lot toxicity in masculine talk.
1206
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.960
So it's, I think that when you meet someone in
1207
00:56:31.980 --> 00:56:34.360
the world, like that's where I was drawn to Lance
1208
00:56:34.380 --> 00:56:37.550
is because it's not really that often that I meet
1209
00:56:37.650 --> 00:56:40.789
another man. I could be like, wow, okay, I see you.
1210
00:56:40.869 --> 00:56:43.590
Like you, you were done the work you've done. Yeah.
1211
00:56:43.929 --> 00:56:47.239
And so it's nice to have someone that's on the
1212
00:56:47.260 --> 00:56:49.780
same wavelength as you. And I think a lot of
1213
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.159
people just need some help and guidance and getting there.
1214
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:52.739
Yeah.
1215
00:56:52.940 --> 00:56:55.860
Right. But yeah, it's hard. I have other men that
1216
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.429
I have a hard time connecting with for sure. But
1217
00:56:58.449 --> 00:56:59.829
I think that's just human nature.
1218
00:56:59.889 --> 00:57:02.289
I don't think it's male or female.
1219
00:57:02.309 --> 00:57:04.949
What culture are you raised in? What environment are you
1220
00:57:04.989 --> 00:57:07.280
raised in? Were you a little boy that was taught
1221
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.940
to be strong, to be tough, don't have feelings? Were
1222
00:57:10.980 --> 00:57:12.400
you not? I think all of us were.
1223
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:16.579
All of us men were. Don't cry. Buckle up. Get
1224
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:19.900
back in. And it's like, okay.
1225
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:27.150
But when I'm violently crying at 40 41, 42 and
1226
00:57:27.210 --> 00:57:31.070
life's transition in my life. I'm like, I wish I
1227
00:57:31.110 --> 00:57:34.690
had known this in my teens and twenties that I was,
1228
00:57:34.789 --> 00:57:38.929
this was okay to just let it go and, and
1229
00:57:38.969 --> 00:57:42.789
be vulnerable, show my emotional side, like, like tap into
1230
00:57:42.829 --> 00:57:47.409
my divine feminine energy as well and find that harmony.
1231
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:49.219
Like, yeah, don't be afraid of it.
1232
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:53.050
No, we have, we get, we, We all need a hormone.
1233
00:57:53.070 --> 00:57:56.539
That's what we've lost. We've lost the divine feminine, especially
1234
00:57:56.579 --> 00:57:58.820
in masculinity. I think that we've got away from that.
1235
00:57:59.260 --> 00:58:01.500
Do you know why I think this is so? I
1236
00:58:01.539 --> 00:58:03.480
think a lot of men, I don't think this is
1237
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.579
true for you guys necessarily, but I think a lot
1238
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.619
of men didn't have a healthy feminine mother figure in
1239
00:58:09.659 --> 00:58:13.260
their lives. I've seen this in so many men where
1240
00:58:13.300 --> 00:58:17.119
the women, their mothers, were so shut down and so
1241
00:58:17.260 --> 00:58:20.800
cold and so in survival the entire time the children
1242
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.389
were growing up. that before you know it, the men
1243
00:58:23.429 --> 00:58:25.559
are grown up, moved out of the house, and they're
1244
00:58:25.579 --> 00:58:27.980
in their 40s all of a sudden, and they're like,
1245
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:30.639
I have never seen a healthy feminine role model.
1246
00:58:31.500 --> 00:58:32.579
And I think that's why. You don't know who you
1247
00:58:32.619 --> 00:58:34.360
don't know, right? You don't know who you don't know. Yeah.
1248
00:58:34.380 --> 00:58:35.340
Right.
1249
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.519
So you can't blame someone for that. That's just their environment.
1250
00:58:37.739 --> 00:58:40.699
Well, and even from you from 15 on, I'm sure
1251
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:44.260
you craved that and missed that so much your whole life.
1252
00:58:44.469 --> 00:58:46.590
Yeah. I was blessed with three daughters, so I got
1253
00:58:46.630 --> 00:58:48.550
the feminine. Yeah, you got the feminine. You got a
1254
00:58:48.550 --> 00:58:49.070
lot going on.
1255
00:58:49.349 --> 00:58:49.630
Yeah.
1256
00:58:49.650 --> 00:58:49.730
Yeah.
1257
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:51.769
And you have daughters, don't you?
1258
00:58:51.820 --> 00:58:52.340
Three daughters.
1259
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.179
I have five daughters.
1260
00:58:56.340 --> 00:58:59.360
And they are beautiful, strong women. I love that.
1261
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.289
And it was really just empowering them to be their
1262
00:59:02.369 --> 00:59:06.230
greatest version of themselves. It wasn't like Maudie Cotland or anything.
1263
00:59:06.269 --> 00:59:09.199
It was like, you know, one of my daughters, she
1264
00:59:09.260 --> 00:59:12.639
came to me and she was nervous about talking to
1265
00:59:12.659 --> 00:59:15.980
her teacher and stuff in elementary. And I was like,
1266
00:59:16.500 --> 00:59:18.780
you know, she's talking to me and her mom and
1267
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:22.119
it's like, what do we need to do? I'm like, well,
1268
00:59:22.179 --> 00:59:23.900
me and your mom aren't going to do anything.
1269
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:26.860
It's your problem. She's like, what are you talking about?
1270
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:28.949
What is it? Well, let's talk through what you're going
1271
00:59:28.969 --> 00:59:31.030
to talk to your teacher about. Yeah. That's so smart.
1272
00:59:31.070 --> 00:59:32.000
He's talking through it.
1273
00:59:32.010 --> 00:59:35.469
Well, I can't do that. I said, well, what would
1274
00:59:35.510 --> 00:59:40.780
you say to your teacher? The problem is I'm your teacher.
1275
00:59:40.820 --> 00:59:45.500
Go. Well, listen, this, I said, that's exactly what you're
1276
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:47.260
going to tell her. Guess what? She's going to tell
1277
00:59:47.300 --> 00:59:50.800
you back. So this won't be a surprise. Okay. So
1278
00:59:50.820 --> 00:59:52.219
what do we need to do to help you? What
1279
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:54.900
do we need? I said, and the next day she
1280
00:59:54.940 --> 00:59:57.059
comes back and she goes, She said exactly what you said.
1281
00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:59.780
And I said, I know, but now you can go
1282
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:01.869
to your teacher and you can talk to them. We're
1283
01:00:01.969 --> 01:00:04.090
not hovering parents where we're going to go in and
1284
01:00:04.190 --> 01:00:04.929
fix this for you.
1285
01:00:04.949 --> 01:00:05.889
No, you need to learn how to problem solve.
1286
01:00:05.929 --> 01:00:07.829
You've got to be able to take care of the
1287
01:00:07.909 --> 01:00:11.090
things when we're not there. So the best time to
1288
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:13.199
teach them is when they come to you with the
1289
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.820
situation or the problem and empower them with what they
1290
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:17.219
need to.
1291
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:20.210
To move forward in their life. You're empowering them. You're
1292
01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:22.789
not doing all that. You have to.
1293
01:00:23.670 --> 01:00:26.269
I mean, I see, bless their hearts, like all my
1294
01:00:26.309 --> 01:00:28.619
daughters were in dance and now I've got this son
1295
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.840
that is four and a half and what a gift.
1296
01:00:32.420 --> 01:00:36.010
He's got the golden hair too. But I'm watching him
1297
01:00:36.070 --> 01:00:40.489
now going. He's so great. He's a wise old soul. Yeah.
1298
01:00:40.570 --> 01:00:44.679
It's a whole different thing. I know why we raise
1299
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:46.980
our kids in our twenties. Yeah. You don't do it
1300
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.079
in your forties and fifties.
1301
01:00:49.099 --> 01:00:49.960
Nope. Yeah.
1302
01:00:50.260 --> 01:00:52.260
So anyways, yeah, it's a whole different thing.
1303
01:00:52.340 --> 01:00:56.199
And I'm like, okay, you're going to be an amazing
1304
01:00:56.380 --> 01:00:59.719
young man, but you're going to be even a better man.
1305
01:00:59.980 --> 01:01:03.099
Yeah. Yeah. And the role models need to come back.
1306
01:01:03.260 --> 01:01:05.019
Parents need to step up again.
1307
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:06.019
I agree with that.
1308
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:09.079
I want to say that wholeheartedly on this. If whoever's listening,
1309
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:11.260
parents step up and be parents again.
1310
01:01:11.460 --> 01:01:11.699
Yeah.
1311
01:01:11.739 --> 01:01:14.920
Take it back. Yep. The schools, the churches and everything
1312
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:18.340
are not raising your kids. You do. Be responsible and
1313
01:01:18.510 --> 01:01:19.570
take it back.
1314
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:23.150
And that's what's going to change things. Like you, you're
1315
01:01:23.210 --> 01:01:25.730
coming back as a mentor. You're coming back as like, I'm,
1316
01:01:26.110 --> 01:01:27.610
we're going to discuss this. We're going to do the
1317
01:01:27.630 --> 01:01:29.309
hard thing. I'm not just not going to tell you yesterday.
1318
01:01:29.329 --> 01:01:32.719
We're going to have a, discussion about what's happening.
1319
01:01:32.739 --> 01:01:34.719
You're being real with them, right? And you're just being real.
1320
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.199
That's all it is. I can tell my daughters, like,
1321
01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:40.150
here's my thing. It's like, everyone's like, are you ready
1322
01:01:40.170 --> 01:01:43.010
to having three beautiful daughters? I'm like, no, because I
1323
01:01:43.610 --> 01:01:46.510
taught them their worth and I've taught them to hold
1324
01:01:46.550 --> 01:01:48.809
their boundaries and I made them strong people. Like I
1325
01:01:48.849 --> 01:01:51.510
don't get caught up in like, don't walk for them.
1326
01:01:51.530 --> 01:01:55.219
I'm like, okay, here's the world you're going to go into. Mm-hmm.
1327
01:01:55.550 --> 01:01:57.789
I'm going to get you as bestly equipped as dad
1328
01:01:57.829 --> 01:02:00.389
can to go kick some ass as well. I love that. Right?
1329
01:02:00.409 --> 01:02:01.409
Because that's all I can do.
1330
01:02:01.630 --> 01:02:01.829
Yeah.
1331
01:02:01.909 --> 01:02:03.510
I can't sit and worry at night. I got to
1332
01:02:03.590 --> 01:02:05.789
trust that they're doing the right thing. Yeah. And the
1333
01:02:05.829 --> 01:02:08.110
only way I can trust that is if I give
1334
01:02:08.130 --> 01:02:11.090
them the foundation to do that. Yeah. As a parent.
1335
01:02:11.309 --> 01:02:13.769
And the trust and responsibility. I think about like as
1336
01:02:13.829 --> 01:02:17.070
a child grows and so many parents have this idea that, well,
1337
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:19.559
once they're 18, then I will give them.
1338
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:21.360
Well, guess what?
1339
01:02:22.179 --> 01:02:23.760
All of a sudden, you're going to go from I
1340
01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:28.130
give you 50% responsibility to 100% overnight. Oh, yeah. I mean,
1341
01:02:28.170 --> 01:02:29.329
that slow.
1342
01:02:28.889 --> 01:02:29.949
Needs to be slow, slow, slow.
1343
01:02:29.969 --> 01:02:31.750
So by the time you're 18, while you're still in
1344
01:02:31.809 --> 01:02:34.590
my home, while we're still having these discussions— How are
1345
01:02:34.619 --> 01:02:35.880
you relying on yourself?
1346
01:02:36.099 --> 01:02:37.420
That's what we told our daughters.
1347
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:40.219
Me and their mom, we'd sit down with them and say,
1348
01:02:40.539 --> 01:02:44.320
we trust you until we can't. And when we can't,
1349
01:02:44.539 --> 01:02:47.769
that's when it's going to get hard for you. So
1350
01:02:48.269 --> 01:02:51.250
get good grades. Make sure you know who you're kissing.
1351
01:02:51.269 --> 01:02:54.130
We went through the whole thing.
1352
01:02:54.369 --> 01:02:55.489
We talked through this with them.
1353
01:02:56.349 --> 01:02:57.010
You have to.
1354
01:02:57.349 --> 01:03:00.429
Oh, yeah. You have to. So you've got to embody that.
1355
01:03:00.469 --> 01:03:03.420
And I failed. So many times being a parent stuff.
1356
01:03:03.460 --> 01:03:07.300
And I wasn't there like a lot of their nurturing time,
1357
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:09.960
but I think some of the void and, and them
1358
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:13.030
watching me live my life and live my passion and
1359
01:03:13.050 --> 01:03:16.269
my dreams. It's a gift to really help because they're like,
1360
01:03:16.309 --> 01:03:18.190
what's dad doing? And a lot of times it'd be like,
1361
01:03:18.630 --> 01:03:23.449
none of us know, but the outcome, even from the
1362
01:03:23.510 --> 01:03:26.239
failure to the successes, they knew it was okay.
1363
01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:29.889
They knew the outcomes. Okay. I love that. We're all
1364
01:03:29.909 --> 01:03:31.409
going to be okay. We're all going to make it
1365
01:03:31.469 --> 01:03:31.809
out of here.
1366
01:03:32.030 --> 01:03:32.710
We are.
1367
01:03:32.969 --> 01:03:34.210
Whether we like it or not.
1368
01:03:34.949 --> 01:03:37.289
And I think, too, one of the things that, real quick,
1369
01:03:37.329 --> 01:03:39.469
like with the, you talked about the masculine and stuff
1370
01:03:39.489 --> 01:03:43.570
like that, is for me, being a girl dad, I'm like, okay, well,
1371
01:03:43.730 --> 01:03:46.590
that is, the responsibility is on me, too, because I
1372
01:03:46.659 --> 01:03:49.480
am the masculine. And I might not be dating my daughters,
1373
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:51.320
but I'm dating someone's daughter.
1374
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:51.780
Yeah.
1375
01:03:51.980 --> 01:03:54.679
I'm going to the world. I'm the masculine for someone else's, right?
1376
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:57.059
So if I can't be the energy I want them
1377
01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:58.940
to receive in the world, how the hell do I
1378
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:00.429
expect them to find it?
1379
01:04:00.690 --> 01:04:00.969
Yeah.
1380
01:04:01.030 --> 01:04:03.289
I can't forgive it. How can I expect something that
1381
01:04:03.349 --> 01:04:05.929
I can't get? Yeah. So I've done a lot of
1382
01:04:05.969 --> 01:04:09.150
self-work after divorce and things like, okay, how can I
1383
01:04:09.230 --> 01:04:12.400
be that better, the good energy that I want them
1384
01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:14.760
to get? Absolutely. In every situation. It's okay to be
1385
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:18.340
crazy and do your thing and have fun, but be
1386
01:04:18.380 --> 01:04:19.559
a good energy. Yeah. Yeah.
1387
01:04:20.710 --> 01:04:22.909
So that they know what good versus bad is.
1388
01:04:23.210 --> 01:04:23.389
Yeah.
1389
01:04:23.489 --> 01:04:24.750
Like, too, I think that's a lot of.
1390
01:04:24.769 --> 01:04:26.909
That's all I can control. Yeah. I can't control what
1391
01:04:26.929 --> 01:04:28.050
they give, but I can control what I give.
1392
01:04:28.789 --> 01:04:29.739
Oh, I love that.
1393
01:04:30.070 --> 01:04:33.800
It's true. And that's what Dara's a topic. Yeah. Yeah.
1394
01:04:34.739 --> 01:04:39.159
And just be authentic. It's the best. Just, yeah, be
1395
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:40.619
brave enough to be authentic. Yeah.
1396
01:04:40.699 --> 01:04:43.989
I mean, that's, that's really the message and embodiment too.
1397
01:04:44.409 --> 01:04:45.969
I think that's the purest form of self-love.
1398
01:04:46.929 --> 01:04:47.269
Yeah.
1399
01:04:47.469 --> 01:04:49.190
So, and a lot of times we just hold it back.
1400
01:04:49.730 --> 01:04:51.469
Well, you are you for a reason. You came here
1401
01:04:51.590 --> 01:04:53.449
as you for a reason. You don't have to show
1402
01:04:53.510 --> 01:04:55.070
up as any other mask.
1403
01:04:55.469 --> 01:04:55.670
Yeah.
1404
01:04:55.869 --> 01:04:58.070
When we show up as us, we're also allowing everybody
1405
01:04:58.130 --> 01:05:00.139
around us to also take off their masks and show
1406
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:00.760
up as who they are.
1407
01:05:00.969 --> 01:05:03.219
Even if we trigger them. Yeah. And you know what
1408
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:04.559
I tell people? That's a lesson too.
1409
01:05:04.940 --> 01:05:05.659
You're welcome. Yeah, exactly.
1410
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:07.340
They're like, well, you.
1411
01:05:07.579 --> 01:05:08.639
Yeah, exactly.
1412
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:11.940
I'm like. But no, really. Seriously. That's a gift. Yeah.
1413
01:05:11.980 --> 01:05:13.400
It is. That's what I love about what you guys
1414
01:05:13.460 --> 01:05:15.909
are doing. unpacked from filter. Like it's like, Hey, like
1415
01:05:15.969 --> 01:05:17.889
let's be real. Like let's have a conversation.
1416
01:05:17.969 --> 01:05:20.159
Let's not like she gets down to the nitty gritty
1417
01:05:20.219 --> 01:05:23.079
and I'm over here and I'm just flying off all
1418
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:23.460
the time.
1419
01:05:25.940 --> 01:05:27.099
I'd never know what's coming out of her mouth.
1420
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:27.840
That's my favorite thing.
1421
01:05:27.980 --> 01:05:30.239
No, not really. That's awesome.
1422
01:05:30.300 --> 01:05:32.619
That's a good time. And you guys are starting a podcast.
1423
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:33.719
Correct.
1424
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:34.469
Okay.
1425
01:05:35.130 --> 01:05:38.809
We can't wait to hear all about it to tune
1426
01:05:38.869 --> 01:05:40.190
in and keep clapping.
1427
01:05:40.230 --> 01:05:43.550
This is beautiful things. It's happening. Yeah, because it takes
1428
01:05:43.610 --> 01:05:46.929
just being brave enough to talk about some real things,
1429
01:05:47.269 --> 01:05:50.510
and people can relate to that. Right. But you just
1430
01:05:50.530 --> 01:05:51.840
have to be brave to do what you're doing.
1431
01:05:51.929 --> 01:05:52.179
Yeah.
1432
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:56.159
Because I'm sure there's some criticism of this. Oh, yeah.
1433
01:05:56.179 --> 01:05:56.420
Yeah.
1434
01:05:57.099 --> 01:05:59.519
And that's okay. We've talked about that. Like, hey, we've
1435
01:05:59.539 --> 01:06:02.380
got to be strong. We've got to be like, you know,
1436
01:06:02.420 --> 01:06:06.179
lock arms because people, you know, you never know. But
1437
01:06:06.940 --> 01:06:08.969
that doesn't mean you don't speak your truth.
1438
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:10.860
No, you speak your truth and you're going to end
1439
01:06:10.900 --> 01:06:13.679
up helping a lot more people than you could ever
1440
01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:14.880
have lash out at you.
1441
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:17.420
Or try to be polite. Or try to play the,
1442
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:20.500
it's like, no, just be authentic and speak your truth.
1443
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:20.900
Yeah.
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01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:21.800
And good things will happen.
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01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:26.760
And I appreciate you guys asking that question about the man.
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01:06:27.099 --> 01:06:27.719
Yeah.
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01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:32.369
Because I think everybody's so driven to position right now
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01:06:32.429 --> 01:06:33.070
in life.
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01:06:33.349 --> 01:06:36.530
Rather than be strong in their roles. Yeah.
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01:06:37.340 --> 01:06:40.820
And I think that's critical right now because almost a decade,
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01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:42.699
decade and a half, I felt like I was alone.
1452
01:06:43.699 --> 01:06:46.539
Oh, wow. Like I couldn't release anything. I couldn't be emotional.
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01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:47.929
I had to be like you were saying.
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01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:51.690
And I'm coming back to this because it's critical right now.
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01:06:51.889 --> 01:06:55.110
Like we're in a critical state right now of people positioning.
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01:06:55.329 --> 01:06:59.110
The structures are all falling apart. Everything's being challenged. And
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01:06:59.170 --> 01:07:02.860
it's because of that facade of what we were supposed
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01:07:02.900 --> 01:07:07.159
to be versus who we truly are. And the foundation
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01:07:07.219 --> 01:07:11.380
and everything has been shattered. And now everybody's trying to
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01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:11.920
find footing.
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01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:12.980
The rules didn't work.
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01:07:13.099 --> 01:07:14.639
And the only footing.
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Is return to you and then become who you were
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01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:19.300
meant to be while you're here.
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That's it. That's beautiful. That's where we're at. It's simple.
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01:07:23.849 --> 01:07:26.210
It's simple, but it can be very hard with the
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01:07:26.250 --> 01:07:29.510
structures of today's world. Like the fact that, you know,
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01:07:29.530 --> 01:07:31.969
like you said, everything's been shattered and it's falling apart.
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01:07:32.010 --> 01:07:33.130
That's a beautiful opportunity.
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01:07:33.150 --> 01:07:33.829
That's the beauty of it.
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01:07:34.260 --> 01:07:36.000
To fall back into place.
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01:07:36.059 --> 01:07:38.909
Chaos creates opportunity. Yes. And that's where we're at. We're
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01:07:38.949 --> 01:07:40.309
in the most chaotic times right now.
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01:07:40.429 --> 01:07:40.710
Oh, yeah.
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And it's so beautiful.
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01:07:41.929 --> 01:07:42.389
It is.
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01:07:42.429 --> 01:07:46.829
That's exactly. You see the opportunity. The darkest times is
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01:07:46.969 --> 01:07:50.820
right before the light, right? So it's like, okay, here
1479
01:07:50.860 --> 01:07:52.559
we are in this dark time. How do we come
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01:07:52.619 --> 01:07:54.940
out of this? How do we? And we have the
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01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:55.480
agency to do that.
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01:07:55.500 --> 01:07:56.619
Yeah, literally.
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01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:58.760
We are the Lotus. We are. It's true.
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01:07:58.780 --> 01:07:59.099
We are.
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01:07:59.179 --> 01:07:59.739
We're right there.
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01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:00.840
It's happening. And I think so.
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01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:02.300
Many men and women are.
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01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:05.420
Craving to come back to truth, to their self. And
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01:08:05.460 --> 01:08:08.619
I think that that's like a huge movement across the
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01:08:08.659 --> 01:08:12.980
globe right now is people wanting more, wanting to understand more.
1491
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:14.820
And they don't know where to land. Right.
1492
01:08:14.860 --> 01:08:17.609
Like the volcano goes off, you know, right next to
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01:08:17.649 --> 01:08:20.949
my house. I'm like, okay, where am I going to land?
1494
01:08:21.029 --> 01:08:24.470
I've had very successful people like, Olympic gold medalists take
1495
01:08:24.489 --> 01:08:27.329
their own lives because like friends of mine, because they,
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01:08:27.390 --> 01:08:30.520
they don't, they don't know what they are. They, they,
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01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:32.819
they don't find that it's like, Oh, I finally did
1498
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:34.399
all this work. I got to where I, I thought
1499
01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:35.520
it was gonna be this thing. And it was, it's
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01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.279
not in there. I feel empty. And I've had, they've
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01:08:38.300 --> 01:08:40.220
taken their own lives or I know people that are depressed.
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01:08:40.310 --> 01:08:43.750
They're very successful people. And we shouldn't be that way.
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01:08:43.770 --> 01:08:44.750
It should be, you know.
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01:08:45.289 --> 01:08:48.260
I think it goes back to success can be very empty.
1505
01:08:48.300 --> 01:08:51.260
You know, I think let's lean into fulfillment and fulfilling
1506
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:52.619
our own purpose, who we are.
1507
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.270
I was telling Zach, I said, if we do this right,
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01:08:56.329 --> 01:08:57.029
which we will.
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01:08:57.409 --> 01:08:59.689
You're like, no, let's be honest.
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01:08:59.710 --> 01:08:59.979
Come on.
1511
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:04.260
Honest. No, we are doing it right. So what words
1512
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:08.420
are you saying, right? Words. They said, well, do an
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01:09:08.500 --> 01:09:11.199
anti-bullying campaign. And I'm like, well, why don't we.
1514
01:09:11.140 --> 01:09:15.649
Just teach self-love? Do an anti-suicide campaign. Why don't we
1515
01:09:15.689 --> 01:09:19.050
just teach self-love? If people just taste it.
1516
01:09:20.020 --> 01:09:23.800
If people just a little bit, if somebody just sees somebody,
1517
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.630
they're not thinking about any of that stuff. If they
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01:09:27.670 --> 01:09:30.430
stand in their own, if they find their true nature,
1519
01:09:31.130 --> 01:09:33.069
like we're talking about in the elements, if they find
1520
01:09:33.090 --> 01:09:35.409
their true nature, they're not even thinking about this stuff.
1521
01:09:35.449 --> 01:09:38.050
When I was a kid, we weren't even talking about
1522
01:09:38.090 --> 01:09:40.149
that stuff. Like if you had a bull, you dealt
1523
01:09:40.189 --> 01:09:40.460
with it.
1524
01:09:40.670 --> 01:09:41.069
Yeah.
1525
01:09:41.130 --> 01:09:44.670
Right. I didn't know anybody was taking their lives.
1526
01:09:44.930 --> 01:09:45.109
Yeah.
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01:09:45.210 --> 01:09:50.470
And now what you. profess, manifest. So whatever you're teaching
1528
01:09:50.609 --> 01:09:53.489
or the epidemics of whatever. Right.
1529
01:09:53.569 --> 01:09:55.130
That's what's going to focus on.
1530
01:09:55.449 --> 01:09:57.430
That's what happens. That's what manifests.
1531
01:09:57.590 --> 01:09:58.939
We got to take it all out and we got
1532
01:09:58.949 --> 01:10:01.039
to get back to the root. We got to embody
1533
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:03.359
self-love and then we don't have to talk about that
1534
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:03.979
stuff anymore.
1535
01:10:04.420 --> 01:10:06.000
Let's deal with it and move on. And that's the
1536
01:10:06.020 --> 01:10:08.359
beautiful thing is like, don't treat anyone else in a
1537
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:10.779
way that makes them too small. And really when you,
1538
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:12.600
when you go into the day and you go into
1539
01:10:12.899 --> 01:10:16.920
wherever you go in, in You see people, the cashier,
1540
01:10:16.979 --> 01:10:19.750
and you talk to them, ask them, that's a nice necklace. Like,
1541
01:10:19.789 --> 01:10:22.029
how's your day? You see them and you don't treat
1542
01:10:22.050 --> 01:10:23.970
them the way that's small. No matter what they are,
1543
01:10:24.010 --> 01:10:30.050
who they are, it makes a huge ripple. And then
1544
01:10:30.069 --> 01:10:32.390
you give them ripples and ripples and ripples.
1545
01:10:32.409 --> 01:10:34.890
Can we go back to the lotus flower?
1546
01:10:35.069 --> 01:10:35.310
Yes.
1547
01:10:35.350 --> 01:10:36.939
Can you talk about that analogy a little bit?
1548
01:10:37.300 --> 01:10:39.500
Well, I mean, we actually have it on the coin.
1549
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:43.739
We've got a split lotus on the coin. And the
1550
01:10:43.779 --> 01:10:46.520
reason for that is we deal with duality in life, right?
1551
01:10:46.699 --> 01:10:49.859
We're in this third dimensional, dense nature of who we are.
1552
01:10:50.659 --> 01:10:55.359
So the lotus in sacred writ, it is embodied in
1553
01:10:55.399 --> 01:11:01.260
this deep, dark, humus, mud, soil, everything. And as it emerges,
1554
01:11:01.739 --> 01:11:04.020
it becomes this perfect flower. And that's why it's taught
1555
01:11:04.229 --> 01:11:05.239
in a lot of sacred writ.
1556
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:05.689
Mm-hmm.
1557
01:11:06.310 --> 01:11:08.239
We are the embodiment of that lotus flower.
1558
01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:11.680
Like, we have to be nurtured. We got to get grounded.
1559
01:11:12.380 --> 01:11:18.479
And as that emerges, like, we are perfect in our imperfections.
1560
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:19.020
That's true.
1561
01:11:19.140 --> 01:11:20.939
We are. I love that. Like.
1562
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:22.880
Perfect is the messy.
1563
01:11:23.220 --> 01:11:28.180
Yeah. Exactly. Like, and what does perfect really mean? It's
1564
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:33.119
the perfect version of you. Yeah. And it's not somebody
1565
01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:36.789
else's perception of what it is. Being the best version
1566
01:11:36.810 --> 01:11:38.170
of yourself. Is perfect.
1567
01:11:38.729 --> 01:11:39.890
It is. It is.
1568
01:11:40.029 --> 01:11:44.970
Okay, if we're made in God's image or the creator's image, well, okay,
1569
01:11:45.069 --> 01:11:46.750
in all that imperfection, I'm perfect.
1570
01:11:47.449 --> 01:11:51.659
Right? We are gods and goddesses. Yes, we are. Right?
1571
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:52.100
It's true.
1572
01:11:52.500 --> 01:11:54.659
If we're made in that image, we need to embody that.
1573
01:11:55.579 --> 01:11:58.539
It's not a projection of what we're going to become.
1574
01:11:58.760 --> 01:11:59.819
We are that. We are it.
1575
01:12:00.189 --> 01:12:02.069
Well, and you even take on, I think about Zach's
1576
01:12:02.130 --> 01:12:04.670
experience where he had a day where he got 10th
1577
01:12:04.689 --> 01:12:06.829
place and he thought he would come in first. That
1578
01:12:06.869 --> 01:12:09.630
was a perfect experience. That was a perfect moment. That
1579
01:12:09.649 --> 01:12:12.630
was a perfect day. In the messiness, in the 10th place,
1580
01:12:13.409 --> 01:12:15.350
it was exactly what it was supposed to be.
1581
01:12:15.369 --> 01:12:17.989
And I battled back and I let go. I surrendered
1582
01:12:18.010 --> 01:12:19.680
and I let go. I battled back. I got to
1583
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:21.640
fifth place in the Olympics. I missed the middle by
1584
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:24.500
half a second. I wanted to see a snap. And
1585
01:12:24.819 --> 01:12:27.260
people are like, wow, you were just off the podium.
1586
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:29.060
Does it feel like you failed? And I was like, no.
1587
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.479
It's like, I love this fifth place. I earned this
1588
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:35.939
fifth place. Like, it's exactly where I'm supposed to be. Yeah.
1589
01:12:35.970 --> 01:12:36.909
And I will own it.
1590
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:37.529
Yeah.
1591
01:12:37.609 --> 01:12:39.590
I am proud of my fifth place. I don't need
1592
01:12:39.609 --> 01:12:41.489
to have a medal to be, like, fuck out. You
1593
01:12:41.510 --> 01:12:44.930
know what I'm talking about? Right. I'm going to own this.
1594
01:12:44.970 --> 01:12:48.329
Well, and when you're in a competing sport, that's a
1595
01:12:48.590 --> 01:12:51.750
hard thing for people to understand. Fifth place is okay.
1596
01:12:51.949 --> 01:12:55.680
Well, not, I mean, competition's hard, and only one person
1597
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:57.810
gets to win. Does that mean everyone else is failures?
1598
01:12:57.850 --> 01:13:01.289
Everyone else is? No, absolutely not. It's the journey. It's
1599
01:13:01.310 --> 01:13:05.779
the path. For me, it's the experience. It's putting myself
1600
01:13:05.859 --> 01:13:12.840
out there. It's empowering to just dare to do and
1601
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:17.359
stack up. My greatest lessons were in my biggest failures.
1602
01:13:18.270 --> 01:13:21.090
And would I give those up? Hell no. I want
1603
01:13:21.109 --> 01:13:24.770
the value. It's a refinement, right? You're being refined. Yep.
1604
01:13:24.810 --> 01:13:26.739
You're being refined. Agreed.
1605
01:13:26.779 --> 01:13:28.460
Be careful what you say to your kids, too, because
1606
01:13:28.779 --> 01:13:31.319
I heard growing up, second place is the first loser.
1607
01:13:32.180 --> 01:13:32.779
Oh, yeah.
1608
01:13:32.819 --> 01:13:36.819
Yeah. That one was a tough one. I'm like, uh.
1609
01:13:36.979 --> 01:13:37.819
Is that Ricky Babby? Yeah.
1610
01:13:37.899 --> 01:13:39.850
I don't know.
1611
01:13:40.409 --> 01:13:44.670
I'm not sure. But, yeah. Yeah. What are we thinking?
1612
01:13:44.710 --> 01:13:46.609
What are we professing? What are we doing? I mean,
1613
01:13:46.630 --> 01:13:49.390
that's really. Yeah. That's why we're here.
1614
01:13:49.890 --> 01:13:53.409
If you could leave a message personally from both of you,
1615
01:13:53.430 --> 01:13:53.949
what would it be?
1616
01:13:54.869 --> 01:14:01.170
Man, just encourage your listeners to keep striving to be
1617
01:14:01.189 --> 01:14:05.649
the best versions of themselves and to give themselves self-love
1618
01:14:05.869 --> 01:14:09.989
and to not be so harsh on themselves. And yeah,
1619
01:14:10.149 --> 01:14:12.829
just keep striving, growing. It's all about growing.
1620
01:14:14.250 --> 01:14:15.029
I love that.
1621
01:14:15.890 --> 01:14:19.109
Yeah. And thank you for both of your illuminated selves. Ooh.
1622
01:14:19.510 --> 01:14:22.909
For pulling this out of us today. Anytime.
1623
01:14:23.250 --> 01:14:24.430
It wasn't too hard.
1624
01:14:24.449 --> 01:14:26.500
So that's one message.
1625
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:30.979
Like keep illuminating and sharing these amazing messages because we
1626
01:14:31.020 --> 01:14:35.220
need more of us out there doing this. And truly
1627
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:39.239
be the gift. Be the gift to yourself. Be the
1628
01:14:39.260 --> 01:14:41.489
gift to those around you. And know that you are
1629
01:14:41.550 --> 01:14:46.170
the gift. And go all in. Like find that all
1630
01:14:46.210 --> 01:14:48.630
in way for you. Like move and act with all
1631
01:14:48.649 --> 01:14:52.779
your heart. And never treat yourself small in any situation.
1632
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:56.460
Yeah. Because if you feel superior to somebody in one situation,
1633
01:14:56.500 --> 01:15:00.130
you feel inferior in another. Oh, wow. So embody that.
1634
01:15:00.930 --> 01:15:01.970
Embody self-love.
1635
01:15:02.550 --> 01:15:04.829
And also thank you for A Gift of the Gift.
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01:15:05.170 --> 01:15:07.170
Oh, we love these children's books.
1637
01:15:07.609 --> 01:15:10.439
It's a children's book written by Lance, and you are
1638
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:12.300
working on your book now. We're excited to see the
1639
01:15:12.340 --> 01:15:12.659
new release.
1640
01:15:12.699 --> 01:15:13.479
Yeah, I'm excited for it.
1641
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:17.399
And for your podcast, we'll put the links on this podcast.
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01:15:17.420 --> 01:15:17.500
Yes.
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01:15:18.409 --> 01:15:20.939
And if you have any more questions, reach out. We
1644
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:22.199
will help you get connected with them.
1645
01:15:22.819 --> 01:15:24.850
Beautiful. Thanks for being here. Thank you so much.