Hyperblasts: Lay Down Your Soul to the Gods Rock 'n' Roll

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Hello everybody, welcome to That's Not Metal. We are your
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weekly rock and heavy metal podcast. We bring you the
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biggest riffs every single week. We let you know what's
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been going on in the worlds of heavy music. This
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is Hyperblasts, which is our weekly slightly shorter form. We're
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not rambling and rambling about album reviews and whatnot this
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time but our slightly shorter form news show where we
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come here every friday when we're not doing a long
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form episode like that and we bring you up to
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speed on the news developments of the last week in
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the world of heavy music we also give you the
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weekly release roundup of what records are coming out this
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week that you may or may not want to hear
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we give you pointers to what we think are the
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ones that you really should be checking out and generally
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that's what we're here to do my name is perrin
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hayesh with me across from me is sam dignon I
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was quite excited to go into this episode until a
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couple of hours ago. But it feels like we've got
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a real highs and lows this week. We've got some
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really interesting and significant and, in some cases, exciting stories
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from the worlds of heavy music to talk about this week.
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But the emotional spectrum is definitely all over the map
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this time.
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It's kind of been one of those weeks for me
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in other ways. I mean, unrelated to... music but uh
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wrestling has had similar kind of like highs lows this
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week with lots of like very important figures there and
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that's been one that's been really connected to me right
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and i kind of wish we could talk about something
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different to start again because i wasn't even here for
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one of these eulogies we've had during this podcast and
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it still feels like it's this was like that this
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time last year it was around where we had to
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do this again and again for a few years and
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it just again this is not everyone that's like massively
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like nearly as important to me as it is to
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you but it's It's just not how we want to start,
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is it, always? Because otherwise it would have been fun
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to just come and talk about some of the other
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news this week, some of the cool stuff, and now
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we're in this position again.
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Yeah, I mean, like I said, there are things that
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have happened this week that are, say, for the next
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year or so, looking into the future. Some of the
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stuff that we are most excited about, I think, has
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been announced this week, and we're going to get into
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all of that as well. So, like I said, coming
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up in today's News Roundup, highs and lows, absolutely. And
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you are quite right in terms of where we have
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to start, because... moment of loss of this degree as
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we have had in the last few weeks with the
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likes of Chad Gilbert and Andy Williams and as you
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say in the last two or three episodes we've had
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to come in and speak to the passing of someone
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who's significant in this kind of way but this one
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just came out of left field for me and has
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really knocked me for six and it's obviously it's always
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so sad when we lose a titan like this but
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my least favorite kind are the ones that very selfishly
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i know the ones that come in right when we're
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about to go and record an episode because it means
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that i haven't got my thoughts straight about it right
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it's like the the the significance of this my my
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brain is it is scattered on this matter um but
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i'm going to do my best to try and speak
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to the significance of this which is the kronos aka
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real name conrad lant uh kronos the legendary frontman Of
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Venom Has passed away this week And You said this
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might not On a personal level of your connection With
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the music for you Sam Be as strong as it
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is Certainly in my case and the case of many
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people In my scene But what I'm going to try
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and lay out today Is that even if you've literally
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never heard A note of Venom's music This is significant
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To you Even if you don't like Venom If you
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have heard it and gone, that shit doesn't matter. This
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is significant to you if you are here listening to
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this podcast. Because when we come on here and we
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cover all things rock and metal, we try to speak
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for or in some way connect to, speak to people
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from all areas of the rock spectrum. But I also
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have to this time come forward from a very personal
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place and say that extreme metal is my home. Extreme
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metal is where I belong. And In that sense, that
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subcultural community that I am most connected to, out of
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all the ones that fall under the TNM banner, has
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lost its godfather figure this time. And if you'll allow me,
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I'm going to try and express the weight of that.
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And I'm going to come in straight away hard and say,
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after the release of the debut Black Sabbath album in 1970,
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there has never been a moment... of radical musical arson
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to the significance of what venom did when they arrived
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ever this is the biggest one i don't care what
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other one you want to throw out there and the
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question always comes up with venom has been you know
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down the years as people go oh yeah were they
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or were they not really a black metal band right
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like were they the first black metal band or were
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they just a band who you know gave their name
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to it but didn't really belong and that's always been
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for me it's like Not being able to see the
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woods for the trees. Because what is important is that
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extreme metal as a subculture opens up with Venom. What
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they did is they gave us the tools to open
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up that box of what metal could do. When you
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came at it with the kind of punk rebellion and
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the belief that you as a regular person, maybe not
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a virtuoso, you could do this too. And the entire...
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underground ethos of heavy music essentially takes a massive leap
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forward and spills forth with the birth of Venom because
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imagine coming into a metal landscape in the UK that
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for the prior couple of years prior to when Venom
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released Welcome to Hell in 1981 it's the new wave
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of British heavy metal that's the movement with which Venom
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were a part think about what metal is prior to
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december 1981 when venom released welcome to hell who are
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the legendary bands up to that point what do they
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sound like what do their singers sound like in the
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case of kronos and to come in not singing high
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not being a a halford or a dio or someone
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of that kind of lineage but growling like a demon
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and in the case of welcome to hell this is
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literally true They put out the demo recordings just labelled
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as the debut album. It's not polished. It wasn't meant
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to be the final album, but it's just the demos
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that they recorded. They put it out as the album,
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and it changed the world. That is the ethos that
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I'm talking about, that the entire last 45 years of
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all heavy music, whether you've heard a note of any
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or not, spills forth from that moment.
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It's the upping of extremity. It is the birth of that.
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And again, I like the Venom I've listened to. I'm
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not a Dunwall Venom fan, but I think they are
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a hugely important band who don't get the props they
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deserve for being, as you say, maybe one of the
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most radically... game-changing bands and again like my you know
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when you said the whole venom do they belong to
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black metal i'm like you know when a genre spins
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out of a band doing something and they like spiritual
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and and but like and they'll call like they'll they'll
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like like death and death but like black metal is
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literally just because venom released a song and now black
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metal like no need no need to rebrand it no
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need to kind of like take on that it just
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it so defines the text and they say the spirit
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of black metal that you don't need to rename it.
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The genre is just there. It's black metal. It is
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taking metal and making it darker, heavier, nastier. And again,
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bands who came out of the wake of Venom absolutely
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made it even heavier and even nastier and even darker
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than Venom ever could. But you've got to start somewhere.
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That sort of point zero, it has to happen. And Venom,
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like I say, with those first records are just... reinventing
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what music is. And again, that same sort of spirit
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of anyone can do this. You haven't got to be
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a fucking virtuoso. You've just got to plug in and
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play hard. And then you are that. And that is
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exactly the kind of spirit and attitude that me as
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a fan, I can be like, that's the coolest thing
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you could ever be. It's just somebody who goes, we're
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going to fucking do this. And you're going to change
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things just by your own kind of force of will.
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And obviously Kronos being the front of that, He's such
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an important figurehead... That... That completely... Like... Reinvents metal... And again...
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Black Metal is the obvious one... But I think of course...
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All kind of walks of.
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Yeah... Of a lot of like.
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The outsider music we like... It loops back to Venom.
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This is... I thought I would stress... This is not
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a loss... That is unique and contained... To Black Metal...
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This doesn't just matter to you... If you are a
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Black Metal head... It is... Like I said... The entire development...
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In the long term, no Venom, no Slipknot,
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no Venom, no Bring Me the Horizon, because anything that
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is mainstream runs back to this as well, because mainstream
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metal takes its breakthroughs and its points of major radical
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evolution from the underground. And that moment of Venom stepping
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forward into what, like I said, prior to 1981, was
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a very, you know, in its own way, yes, raw
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and exciting, and I'm not taking anything away from the
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pre-Venom bands and how just awesome and radical they could be,
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but moving away from that level of cleanliness that it had,
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and particularly the level of just raucous, hell-raising disregard for
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professionalism in lots of ways, like the pure, raw filth
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and scuzz that you hear on the first couple of
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Venom albums. is epochal. And the amount of bands that
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directly form in the aftermath of it, like Tom G. Warrior,
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for example, story is told many times of going on
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a trip to England in the early 80s, buying the
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debut Venom 7-inch single in league with Phaeton, and that
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directly basically being the thing that formed Hellhammer and then
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Celtic Frost coming out of that. And then all of
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the influence that spills through from there. And you go,
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oh yeah, who was influenced by Celtic Frost? Oh yeah,
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Nirvana are influenced by Celtic Frost. Like, That is one
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of the most significant moments. Like I said, after the
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formation of Black Sabbath, you know, forming the genre, I
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don't think there is a larger leap forward for what
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metal and its capabilities and who it could include and
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the kind of people who could make metal and what
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would be accepted in metal. I don't think there is
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a more significant moment than what Venom does. Even, you know,
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this news for us broke two or three hours ago
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before we were recording this and we've been chatting in
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our discord trying to process this a little bit and
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elliot raised a point that even the association of uh
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metal being the devil's music right being associated with satan
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is not as strongly codified as it is in popular
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culture until venom arrived because you know black sabbath obviously
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they had satan songs they had satan references and stuff
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but black sabbath the songs often felt like warnings, right?
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They were, you know, famously there's heavily Christian lyrics involved
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in Black Sabbath as well. They were scared of these things.
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They were warning you against these things. That's what Black
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Sabbath always said in their defense when they would be
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accused of, you know, Satanism by, you know, the conservative
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right or whatever. And then Venom turned up and it's like,
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now we are fucking Satan's warriors on Earth.
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We're in league with him.
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We're in league with Satan. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
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If God won't have me, then the devil must.
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And.
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Yeah, it's been much said over the years about Venom
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in relation to Black Metal that it was tongue-in-cheek. It
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was theatre. It was play. They didn't mean it. But
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that doesn't matter. When you listen to the records, particularly
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if you got them in 1981... That feeling hits. You
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could swear in Cronus' performance that he fucking meant it.
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And that sigil on the front of Welcome to Hell
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or the face on the front of Black Metal, those
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are the signs of belonging to this other, darker, weirder, outsider, occult,
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you know, path in heavy music. Lay down your soul
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to the gods rock and roll is a fucking motto.
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It's a mantra, right? It's that idea of, I'm going
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to sign my life away to the devil and the
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devil's music, and this shit is going to be with
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me forever. And that is the birth... Of extreme metal...
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Again like I said... Whether Venom strictly belonged to black
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metal as a subgenre... Musically or whatever... I don't care
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about that... What I'm interested in.
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Is.
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The birth of... That left hand path... That extreme metal...
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That genuinely underground... Radical... Subculture... It's everything we cry for now... Like.
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It's the spawn of Venom... Extreme metal's aesthetic... Chains... Studs... Spikes... Leather...
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Medieval weapons... that comes from Venom. The act of creating
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black metal pseudonyms, Kronos, Abaddon, Mantas, that comes from Venom.
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If you have ever connected with anything, not just even
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within extreme metal, but if you've ever connected or appreciated
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art that's in any way influenced by extreme metal, which
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I'm going to wager if you are listening to this podcast,
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is every single last one of you. This is a
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monumental moment of loss. Punks took influence like people who
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didn't even like heavy metal really but they'd wear a
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venom shirt because venom were hard and venom were cool
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right 80s hardcore guys the guys making you know new
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york hardcore in the 80s they were listening to venom
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it's the the this i want to just stress how
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much the the waves that go out from venom because
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i think you know chronos is passing this week is
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something that the extreme metal community will mourn and everyone
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outside of the extreme metal community that in heavy music
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will go oh you know venom that's a shame But
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I just want to stress how much you as a
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person listening to this music right now are not the
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same without what Venom did.
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If you feel like you belong to any kind of
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musical counterculture that comes from metal, again, Venom is the
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birth of the counterculture. Metal was a counterculture, but Venom
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is the counterculture to.
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The radical alternative, yeah.
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They just made everything. And as I said, we cry
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out for bands who are different and daring and, and
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don't follow what is the norm. And, and in like
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saying 81, like Venom are exactly that. And, and they,
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they set the path for, for the bat, for what
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all the things we love and champion and all of that. And,
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and again, like, I mean, I never got to see
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Venom live in any kind of like, whatever that there's
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all guys as well. But I still have such a
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fond memory of seeing Psy play black metal.
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And it just be bass only because that's where you
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could hear bass and vocals. But I was like, that's
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the fucking spirit of Venom, isn't it? That like, that
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just like, nothing's working, but we're going to just fucking
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tear through this song. And, and it's like, that's what
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it's all about. Like it doesn't have to be perfect,
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but the feeling and the intent is what matters more
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than anything. And I think that, that is it with
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Venom is, Perfection was never the aim. It was all
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about capturing that feeling, capturing that intent, and actually wanting
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to channel that genuine darkness and rebellion. And that, to me,
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is something that is so special and does make Venom
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and Kronos a really important special figure and a genuinely
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tragic loss.
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Yeah, the early legends of Venom's formation and their early
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years and everything are to read about today. They're so
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insane and so frequently comical and inspiring. Like, all at once. Like,
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if you just go and watch the Live at Hammersmith
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video from the 80s, just that level of, like, unadulterated, burned-down-the-world, like,
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testosterone exuding out of the band is just staggering to behold. Like,
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you know, I spoke earlier this year on the show
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about when I went to go see Sun live, and
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their stage, again, barely even a fucking, what you could
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call a conventional rock band, right? It's just, like, noise.
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Just droning amp sound. But not only do they have
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multiple references to Venom in their lyrics because it's about
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the spirit, or their titles and whatnot because it's about
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the spirit, but their stage intro tape, when I saw
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them earlier this year, was just a compilation of Venom
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stage banter from Kronos, which if you want to go
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and hear it, it's a Venom Live at City Gardens,
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New Jersey classic is the name of the video on
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YouTube you can find. And it is a fucking classic
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because it's just the... the kind of lovable godfather figure
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of Extreme Metal that Kronos was, even when he was
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at his most preposterous.
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It is.
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I think this is Extreme Metal's Aussie moment, essentially, in
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terms of, like I said, the granddaddy of it all,
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without whom we're not here. I mean, I saw the
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Kronos-fronted Venom once, because they barely played it for some reason.
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They were much less around in the UK than Venom Inc.
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or the various spin-offs. But I saw Venom Venom once
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at Bloodstock 2016. and still to this day, it's kind
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of an in-joke amongst my friends who were there when
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they played black metal, of course, and in the extended outro,
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Kronos was just riffing, naming different genres of metal, just going,
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speed metal, power metal, thrash metal, and it just went on,
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and it was so, like, fun and endearing, and he
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was that guy who lived it, right? And you go
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on and put on Welcome to Hell, now, the album,
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which is Essentially, I know they have the singles and
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stuff beforehand, but essentially, if you want to really earmark something,
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the ground zero for extreme metal as a movement is
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the release of Welcome to Hell. And when that needle
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hits the first track, Sons of Satan, how raw and
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wild and frothing at the mouth it is to this day,
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because it's not about how low you tune your guitar,
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or how fast your triggers are, or whatever, which is
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what I think the people who go, oh yeah, Venom,
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they weren't actually that good, you know, completely missed the
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fucking point about. It's not about that. It's about intent
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and about fucking feeling. Exactly. And there's a reason that
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everyone covers In League With Satan and Black Metal and
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Countess Bathory and Witching Hour, which is my favourite Venom song,
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and I can't think of many moments to this day
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that sum up the kind of illicit, forbidden thrill of...
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of getting into underground music than that song fading in
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gradually and carrying itself in and then hearing Kronos say
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the witching hour draws near all hell breaks loose it's
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imagine right now a world without extreme metal and I
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think this is particularly true if you don't actually listen
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to and belong to the subculture so to speak but
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just imagine its cultural ripples right that the image and
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associations of heavy metal right like that fucking the the
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spiked uh corpse painted character in guitar hero you play
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as right the metals place in pop culture and how
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much that is associated with is extreme wing with death
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metal and black metal and stuff like that nothing is
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the same Without Venom. We are not here speaking to
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you without Venom. It is unthinkable what Metal would be
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today without the development that they kickstarted. Like I said,
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they gave us the tools to just run wild. And
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it didn't care if people told you it was noise,
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if it was unsophisticated, if it was unprofessional, whatever. It's
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just about taking that baton and running as far as
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you can with it. And Kronos, I think his... His
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fame never carried as far into major pop culture in
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terms of remaining an underground phenomenon. But I'm just telling you,
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if you've listened to anything heavy in the last 45 years,
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in terms of significance to our culture, this is a Lenny.
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This is an Aussie. This is one of the true,
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true game-changers. And so, from someone who found their life's purpose, essentially,
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by belonging to the extreme metal world... I just want
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to say Venom and Kronos forever and ever. What else
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have we got in the news this week? I suppose
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we should knock out our other more negative story, first
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of all, which we were going to lead with before
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the Kronos news dropped, but also announced earlier today. Enter Shikari.
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I've put out a statement today. which is essentially laying out,
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it's quite a lengthy statement, it's got a lot of
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consideration and musing of what the last few years have
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been for them in it, but the meat of the
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matter is that at the end of 2027, at the
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end of, I guess, the touring cycle for this new
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record that they put out earlier this year, and conspicuously
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have not really supported so far, they have an arena
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tour coming up, but they were basically absent over the summer,
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But at the end of 2027, Enshikari are going to
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go on indefinite hiatus, and they say that at the
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end of that hiatus, they might well re-emerge, and might
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well come back with new music and be reinvigorated as
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a band, or they might well decide to just keep
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it on ice, in their words, extinction, forever at this point.
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But they are winding down absolutely this, essentially the first
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20 years, of them being a band where they have
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not had a significant break or stop like this. And again,
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the recognition of what a staple they have been in
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those 20 years in the UK rock scene and beyond.
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What a consistent presence they've been. It is definitely notable
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if they were to, at the end of this cycle,
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take even a semi-permanent but potentially a permanent step back.
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Yeah, this has been one I've kind of like... It
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kind of hit me because Shikari were one of my bands.
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They were one of the bands that, again, in the
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sort of like mid to late noughties when I've heard
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Take the Skies, because they were like a UK band
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or something, they were there with Count Your Blessings and
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I talked about that and being like the thing that
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got me into like stream music. Shikari were like in
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there as well. And like, so they have been with
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me for like the majority of like my dedicated... alternative
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music kind of life and it's it feels weird to
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kind of be like yeah that this might be be
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the end i mean 20 years is a hell of
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a run for any band like you've always got to
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look at like particularly the uk bands that came and
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went around the same time as them and how how
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few of them are have kind of stuck around us
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to that it's kind of just them and bring me
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now it almost feels like of that of that particular
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era and and now they're sort of done and it
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feels like like For them, if this is the result
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of them feeling burnt out and that kind of creative
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spark and that sort of thing that's so important to
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what made me love Shikari and that personality and that identity,
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if that is sort of feeling damaged, then I think
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this is, in a way, the right move to kind
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of like take a step back, call time on it
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for now and see how it emerges. I'm gutted either
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way because... Shikari are one of the bands that, again,
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when they tour, myself and my mates, we go along
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to that Shikari tour and we dance around and sing along.
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And it's just one of our favourite nights of whenever
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that's happening because they're one of those bands, again, that
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we all kind of grew up with and have stuck with.
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And so Shikari tours were always an event for us.
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Like I say, we'd get together, we'd have a great time.
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And it feels like we're sort of reaching the end
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of that. And that's always a sad thing. And again,
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you know, Shikari, they've had ups and downs. But I
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think they've always been... like other level of quality that
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a lot of the bands around them have never managed
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to maintain and they've always kept their sort of identity
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and dignity intact and been the band they want to
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be and in a way it's a shame that they
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never quite then managed to say that to the very
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top level and that that might be another thing that
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has then contributed to that where there's only so long
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they can always be just sitting beneath those kind of
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like festival headlining like massive bands while still being a
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really big band themselves and that's maybe that's contributed as
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well but um I will kind of cherish this last
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year or so of Shikari. I'm seeing them on the
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tour at the end of this year. I'll hopefully see
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them again next year with whatever they decide to do.
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But it is a shame. But my hope is that
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they take this time off and reinvigorate themselves and come
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back more fired up than ever. And everyone kind of...
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Absence makes the heart grow fonder and kind of realises
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how lucky we were to have Shikari during their absence.
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So that's kind of how I'm feeling on it.
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Yeah, because I think that 20-year span... being from the
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British rock scene at that point in time, they are
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one of, if not possibly the only band of that
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scene to have stayed consistently strong and relevant in that time.
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You say they've had their ups and downs. I don't
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think their downs have ever been that down. I don't
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think so either.
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The Spark's like a 7 out of 10 in comparison to...
480
00:26:05.980 --> 00:26:07.200
I'm a big fan of The Spark.
481
00:26:07.299 --> 00:26:11.430
I genuinely think my personal least favourite Chikari album is
482
00:26:11.450 --> 00:26:13.069
the one they released earlier this year i haven't gone
483
00:26:13.089 --> 00:26:15.529
back to it but even that has find out the
484
00:26:15.549 --> 00:26:17.230
hard way which is a really good single and that
485
00:26:17.299 --> 00:26:20.799
is an album that is light years beyond what the
486
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:22.680
majority of bands from their scene who came at the
487
00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:26.220
same time yeah would ever have been capable of they
488
00:26:26.299 --> 00:26:29.839
essentially do not have like a genuinely duff record and
489
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:34.509
they stayed relevant they stayed respectable they stayed uh you
490
00:26:34.529 --> 00:26:38.299
know critically engaged with you know the the whatever was
491
00:26:38.339 --> 00:26:40.359
going on in the kind of, you know, rock conversation,
492
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.319
but particularly from the perspective of the UK rock scene.
493
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:46.660
And that goes for obviously their conduct as well as their,
494
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:50.180
you know, musical output. The fact that they, of that
495
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:53.630
generation of bands, were one of the absolutely most, you know,
496
00:26:53.750 --> 00:26:58.829
outspoken on social issues. And they consistently, you know, tried
497
00:26:58.849 --> 00:27:00.970
to put their money where their mouth was as well
498
00:27:00.990 --> 00:27:04.880
and genuinely try and make an impact on things. I
499
00:27:04.910 --> 00:27:07.000
think that those are things that if we were to,
500
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.359
you know, lose shikari at this point things that we
501
00:27:10.380 --> 00:27:13.380
would miss and they seem you know again the way
502
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:15.380
they've spoken about this there was a video that rao
503
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.660
put out recently as well um they seem essentially quite
504
00:27:20.789 --> 00:27:24.109
tired really by you know 20 years having done this
505
00:27:24.130 --> 00:27:25.970
stuff particularly maybe the last few years i think we
506
00:27:26.009 --> 00:27:29.349
even noted on on the newest album the oddly kind
507
00:27:29.390 --> 00:27:32.869
of almost pessimistic tone that some of it has in
508
00:27:32.910 --> 00:27:36.730
comparison to what you usually expect from shikari so maybe
509
00:27:37.130 --> 00:27:39.150
uh you could possibly see that some of the writing
510
00:27:39.730 --> 00:27:41.450
was on the wall for this in terms of just
511
00:27:41.769 --> 00:27:44.650
you know energy levels and um you know burnout and
512
00:27:44.670 --> 00:27:49.910
everything being being being down for them um but if
513
00:27:49.950 --> 00:27:53.369
these last you know year and a bit last few
514
00:27:53.410 --> 00:27:56.630
months of that of their career can in some way
515
00:27:57.410 --> 00:28:01.630
give them you know a better stronger more positive send-off
516
00:28:02.390 --> 00:28:04.059
then that would be you know a really positive thing
517
00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:07.750
but definitely the the the uk rock scene in particular
518
00:28:07.849 --> 00:28:10.630
will miss energy kari because fundamentally it does not have
519
00:28:10.690 --> 00:28:13.150
many bands who have been as good certainly for as
520
00:28:13.170 --> 00:28:14.609
long as energy kari.
521
00:28:14.410 --> 00:28:17.730
No yeah again like bands who i got into around
522
00:28:17.769 --> 00:28:20.089
that time who again like the bands were going to
523
00:28:20.130 --> 00:28:22.910
who broke up and like like went away that were
524
00:28:22.930 --> 00:28:25.079
great but were like short-lived whereas in terms of like
525
00:28:25.099 --> 00:28:28.019
the longevity and hey look i i defended you me
526
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.089
at six far longer than literally anyone ever should And
527
00:28:31.470 --> 00:28:34.130
even though I'm like, they were just, you know, that
528
00:28:34.269 --> 00:28:36.890
was like, I couldn't say no to them. Like, Shikari,
529
00:28:36.910 --> 00:28:40.349
I think, have never ever, like, they've had weaker moments,
530
00:28:40.410 --> 00:28:42.750
but they've never ever put a foot actually wrong and
531
00:28:42.809 --> 00:28:45.769
released something that is a stinker or that I've looked
532
00:28:45.869 --> 00:28:51.369
on and just thought, oh, this is rubbish. They've lost it.
533
00:28:51.940 --> 00:28:56.259
They're washed. They've maintained their dignity the entire run. And
534
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.670
they've been, like I say, creatively interesting. And I think, yeah,
535
00:28:59.809 --> 00:29:02.029
it is a shame. But I hope that they can
536
00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:05.910
at least close up this run in sort of a
537
00:29:05.910 --> 00:29:09.650
celebration of it. And then, as I say, take a
538
00:29:09.690 --> 00:29:13.029
couple of years off, fans, and then realise what kind
539
00:29:13.049 --> 00:29:16.410
of was missing and refine that joy. And if that's
540
00:29:16.430 --> 00:29:19.970
what happens, then I will be ultimately happy with this
541
00:29:20.009 --> 00:29:21.450
in the end. But it is still one that I'm...
542
00:29:21.650 --> 00:29:24.390
Like I said, when that final Chicago show comes on
543
00:29:24.410 --> 00:29:26.069
that I'm seeing, whenever it might be on this, I
544
00:29:26.089 --> 00:29:27.519
don't know if I'm going to see their last show
545
00:29:27.579 --> 00:29:30.380
on this run or or whatever my final shikari show
546
00:29:30.460 --> 00:29:32.160
ends up being on this that will be a really
547
00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:32.640
sad day.
548
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.769
For me yeah i suppose while we are talking about
549
00:29:35.990 --> 00:29:38.890
um you know this specific scene and farewells from that
550
00:29:38.910 --> 00:29:42.059
scene we should also mention frank turner um who has
551
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:46.900
uh announced that his upcoming uh lost evenings dates which
552
00:29:47.099 --> 00:29:50.259
are happening at uh wembley arena are actually going to
553
00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:52.480
be at least for the foreseeable i don't know how
554
00:29:52.539 --> 00:29:54.980
permanent this might be but at least for the foreseeable
555
00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:59.079
his last live dates with Frank Turner and the Sleeping
556
00:29:59.099 --> 00:30:02.549
Souls because similarly, he is someone who has been gigging
557
00:30:02.589 --> 00:30:03.789
and gigging and gigging for.
558
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.170
He has not stopped gigging for God knows how long.
559
00:30:07.109 --> 00:30:10.849
Such a long time. And we haven't really spoken about
560
00:30:10.869 --> 00:30:14.210
Frank Turner's music in any capacity, certainly in terms of
561
00:30:14.250 --> 00:30:17.329
recent releases or anything very much. But I know, Sam,
562
00:30:17.349 --> 00:30:20.430
that you have passed fondness for a good amount of
563
00:30:20.450 --> 00:30:23.509
Frank Turner's work. So what's your take on just this
564
00:30:23.549 --> 00:30:24.069
announcement from him?
565
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:30.079
For me, I think he has reached the sort of natural... Again,
566
00:30:30.099 --> 00:30:32.569
he has not stopped gigging. The amount of shows he
567
00:30:32.609 --> 00:30:36.230
plays is ridiculous. And I think, again, he's been doing
568
00:30:36.250 --> 00:30:39.450
it for some... Even when you look at Million Dead
569
00:30:39.849 --> 00:30:42.450
and everything from there, and then his own solo work,
570
00:30:42.890 --> 00:30:46.359
he was touring relentlessly all the time and has been
571
00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:50.000
doing these lost evening shows. And yeah, Frank Turner in
572
00:30:50.059 --> 00:30:52.890
recent years in particular became again a bit of a,
573
00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:56.220
a bit of a punching bag, like, because, maybe because, like,
574
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:57.980
he wasn't, like, a terrible person, he was kind of
575
00:30:58.019 --> 00:31:01.539
one we could kind of, people could kind of enjoy, like,
576
00:31:01.619 --> 00:31:03.900
messing about with, and not feeling too guilty of it, but, um,
577
00:31:04.299 --> 00:31:06.619
I do, again, his first couple of records in particular,
578
00:31:06.700 --> 00:31:08.700
I think are great, those are because I like the
579
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:12.380
Million Dead records, I've had great memories seeing him live, I, like,
580
00:31:12.420 --> 00:31:15.680
always put on a good show, I think, I just
581
00:31:15.980 --> 00:31:17.480
think again it's that point of like when you've been
582
00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:18.720
doing it for so long and you kind of go
583
00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:21.420
like yeah I need to take some time I think
584
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:22.559
he just needs to take some time off and take
585
00:31:22.579 --> 00:31:26.640
some time for himself and and again I doubt this
586
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.380
will be a permanent sort of thing I would.
587
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:31.160
Be shocked if these were the last Frank Turner shows
588
00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:32.400
ever yeah I.
589
00:31:32.380 --> 00:31:34.299
Think he will get that itch to play live because
590
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.740
I think he does just love being out on the
591
00:31:36.789 --> 00:31:38.720
road and playing and I think that's a fair enough
592
00:31:38.740 --> 00:31:41.009
thing but I think I think he's earned some time
593
00:31:41.029 --> 00:31:43.309
off because he has like again love him or hate
594
00:31:43.349 --> 00:31:47.190
him he has been a dedicated, kind of like genuine
595
00:31:47.589 --> 00:31:52.029
hard grafting musician who has made some stumbles along the way,
596
00:31:52.089 --> 00:31:55.319
but I think his intentions have always been just about
597
00:31:55.630 --> 00:31:58.319
loving playing music and writing these songs and stuff like that.
598
00:31:58.380 --> 00:32:01.519
And I think that's kind of a noble thing. And like, yeah,
599
00:32:01.740 --> 00:32:03.990
it was kind of like a bit of a bittersweet one.
600
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:05.180
I was like, oh, that's a shame that he's going
601
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.630
to take some time off. But yeah, maybe some time
602
00:32:07.670 --> 00:32:09.849
off will do him good. But yeah, that's kind of
603
00:32:09.869 --> 00:32:10.170
how I feel.
604
00:32:10.769 --> 00:32:14.490
Yeah, but... Let's, I think, try and gain a bit
605
00:32:14.549 --> 00:32:17.589
of a stronger tone on this episode, or a more
606
00:32:17.609 --> 00:32:20.220
positive one, even, as we move forward to the news here.
607
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.460
Because as we go from, you know, a couple of farewells,
608
00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:24.640
a couple of artists bowing out, we are now going
609
00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:27.380
to talk about, in a couple of instances, some returns.
610
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:33.190
And with this first one, it's not a full comeback, right?
611
00:32:33.230 --> 00:32:36.289
Considering the context, which is going to become very obvious
612
00:32:36.349 --> 00:32:38.930
when I say who this is. But it is something
613
00:32:39.730 --> 00:32:44.920
that I cannot believe. has actually happened particularly considering just
614
00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:47.180
recently on like the last couple weeks of the show
615
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.660
some of the things that you know i i've discussed
616
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.509
dysphia have got a new album it's called the last
617
00:32:54.589 --> 00:32:58.619
nail and it's coming out on november the 20th dysphia
618
00:32:59.089 --> 00:33:05.109
the in the correct circles legendary crust punk band whose
619
00:33:05.490 --> 00:33:08.410
last album live the storm was released in 2008 and
620
00:33:08.430 --> 00:33:15.009
in my opinion It is the crust punk D-beat masterpiece.
621
00:33:15.390 --> 00:33:19.470
There is not a record in that style that gives
622
00:33:19.539 --> 00:33:22.880
me more joy and invigorates me more than Live the Storm.
623
00:33:23.180 --> 00:33:26.019
And that's just the cap on what had been a
624
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.460
great career up to then, the previous record, Misanthropic Generation.
625
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:35.829
Also absolutely fucking outstanding. Dysphia, fronted until recently by Thomas Lindbergh,
626
00:33:36.289 --> 00:33:38.950
the also frontman of At The Gates, who if you've
627
00:33:38.970 --> 00:33:40.640
been listening to us or just paying attention for the
628
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:43.200
last year or so, you will know, passed away from
629
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.200
cancer last year. The final At The Gates record containing
630
00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:50.400
his final vocal recordings was released earlier this year. It
631
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:55.700
also features Magnus Andersson, Dysfear's drummer of many, many years, who,
632
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.680
when we were speaking about eulogising lots of musicians and
633
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.319
just seeming like we had one of those sort of
634
00:34:00.339 --> 00:34:03.170
just relentless periods of loss in the last few weeks,
635
00:34:03.809 --> 00:34:06.049
Magnus Andersson, the drummer of Dysfear, also died of cancer
636
00:34:06.309 --> 00:34:08.130
just a couple of weeks ago. I spoke about it
637
00:34:08.210 --> 00:34:10.789
on this show And when I spoke about that, I
638
00:34:10.809 --> 00:34:15.449
was like, this is so fucking sad for a multitude
639
00:34:15.469 --> 00:34:18.969
of reasons, but one of them is the feeling that Dysfear,
640
00:34:19.780 --> 00:34:22.360
just five years ago, felt like they were almost on
641
00:34:22.380 --> 00:34:26.739
the cusp of a comeback, where they played in 2020
642
00:34:26.739 --> 00:34:28.880
some shows. I went to one of them in London,
643
00:34:29.820 --> 00:34:33.679
and it was like Dysfear reinserting themselves into the punk
644
00:34:33.699 --> 00:34:38.289
hardcore conversation with those shows. 2021... I did an interview
645
00:34:38.409 --> 00:34:41.210
with Thomas Lindbergh around the At The Gates album that
646
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.070
came out that year. And one of the things he
647
00:34:43.090 --> 00:34:45.219
said to me in that interview was, I'm hoping to
648
00:34:45.260 --> 00:34:47.239
release like three records this year because one of the
649
00:34:47.260 --> 00:34:49.739
things he mentioned was that they had a Dysphia record
650
00:34:50.019 --> 00:34:52.260
basically in the can. They were like, this Dysphia record
651
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:53.920
is written. We're going to get out as soon as
652
00:34:53.940 --> 00:34:57.880
we can. And then that never came. And then Thomas
653
00:34:57.900 --> 00:35:01.679
Lindbergh passed away. And then Magnus Andersen passed away. And
654
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.699
that just became a path that had been potentially closed
655
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.219
off to us, right? It felt like that was gone.
656
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:07.320
Yeah.
657
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:13.079
To suddenly, so quickly, receive word that there is that
658
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:17.320
Dysfear album coming. It features the final Dysfear performance from
659
00:35:17.340 --> 00:35:20.420
Thomas Lindbergh. It features the final performance from Magnus Andersen.
660
00:35:20.699 --> 00:35:23.980
It had, in fact, been written and largely recorded, and now,
661
00:35:24.099 --> 00:35:25.940
having gone through all of the, you know, whatever processes
662
00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:27.780
go on to get a record out the door, it's
663
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:32.630
going to be coming out this year, is unbelievable news.
664
00:35:32.750 --> 00:35:33.710
I cannot believe this.
665
00:35:36.110 --> 00:35:37.630
I was so late to the part with Disfear. I
666
00:35:37.650 --> 00:35:41.030
got into Disfear when Alec brought Live the Storm on
667
00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:43.780
and I kind of listened and felt my life change
668
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.679
after hearing Get It Off. I was like, what the fuck?
669
00:35:48.500 --> 00:35:50.929
How have I never heard this before? This is the
670
00:35:50.989 --> 00:35:53.329
greatest shit ever. And that was kind of just like
671
00:35:53.349 --> 00:35:55.780
when the moment was like, oh man. in another, I
672
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.099
wish I'd seen it, and the feelings over the last
673
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.079
few years have just been like, I missed my chance
674
00:36:00.110 --> 00:36:02.909
with Dysfear, because I just didn't, like, if I'd heard
675
00:36:02.949 --> 00:36:05.110
it a couple of years, like, not even, it wasn't
676
00:36:05.130 --> 00:36:07.309
even by that much, when you look at like, when
677
00:36:07.329 --> 00:36:08.349
I went to it, I was kind of like, ah,
678
00:36:08.710 --> 00:36:10.090
it felt like a real, sort of, and I was
679
00:36:10.110 --> 00:36:12.110
kind of like, not seeing him live, not actually getting
680
00:36:12.130 --> 00:36:14.610
to kind of experience a new Dysfear album, in my
681
00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:16.789
time as a fan, it was a real kind of like, ah,
682
00:36:17.530 --> 00:36:19.809
and then as we said, everything happened this year, it
683
00:36:19.849 --> 00:36:22.489
felt just like one of those, what if sort of situation,
684
00:36:22.510 --> 00:36:25.750
that was never going to come true, because, like it
685
00:36:25.789 --> 00:36:28.889
clearly had been delayed and there'd been setbacks and with
686
00:36:28.909 --> 00:36:32.579
Thomas and the man's going, like it just, um, it,
687
00:36:32.860 --> 00:36:35.880
it felt like, it felt like, um, it was never
688
00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:37.840
going to happen. And then just kind of like, ah,
689
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:39.860
I get a new dis fear album in my time
690
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.949
as a fan, I get one. And that was just
691
00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:46.400
really exciting to kind of like, Dysfear is going to
692
00:36:46.420 --> 00:36:48.559
kind of be in the conversation again, and hopefully a
693
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:50.420
lot of people will just kind of go, like, who, again,
694
00:36:50.579 --> 00:36:52.619
might not have heard Dysfear, because they feel like, again,
695
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:55.579
they were a cult band who'd been inactive for so long,
696
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.320
and people who knew, and sort of the crust of
697
00:36:57.340 --> 00:36:59.000
the DBC knew, but it didn't feel like it had
698
00:36:59.539 --> 00:37:02.750
been them that necessarily went much wider. Dysfear was a
699
00:37:02.789 --> 00:37:06.070
moment to kind of, like, have one last... Dysfear are
700
00:37:06.110 --> 00:37:10.110
fucking the sickest band, because I put this song on,
701
00:37:10.150 --> 00:37:13.130
and I was like, how can you not fucking love
702
00:37:13.150 --> 00:37:17.239
this shit? Like, it is the greatest sound a band
703
00:37:17.260 --> 00:37:21.170
can make, I swear to God. Just D-beats, that guitar tone,
704
00:37:21.710 --> 00:37:24.449
Thomas just shredding his vote. Again, I don't know when
705
00:37:24.469 --> 00:37:26.230
he recorded. Like, I said it was recorded over the
706
00:37:26.250 --> 00:37:28.929
last three years. I can't place it on where.
707
00:37:29.070 --> 00:37:31.889
This will be, certainly, these are recordings from before his
708
00:37:31.949 --> 00:37:33.090
At The Gates recordings. Yeah.
709
00:37:33.849 --> 00:37:35.929
So, like, because he doesn't sound as pained as he
710
00:37:35.949 --> 00:37:37.130
does in At The Gates. But again, I don't know
711
00:37:37.190 --> 00:37:40.389
where in his diagnosis, like, this might benefit if parts
712
00:37:40.429 --> 00:37:41.929
of everyone caught on that. But at the same time,
713
00:37:42.650 --> 00:37:45.039
this to me, this album, like, and just go off
714
00:37:45.059 --> 00:37:46.460
the single this is something where I'm just like this
715
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:50.389
is just a fucking celebration of just fucking living for
716
00:37:50.409 --> 00:37:53.889
this shit and and Crankin' Out just tunes that rip
717
00:37:54.070 --> 00:37:57.449
and I I am just like whether this is you
718
00:37:57.469 --> 00:37:59.289
know just gonna be an album and like I don't
719
00:37:59.690 --> 00:38:02.030
I don't know how Dysphere can potentially look at can
720
00:38:02.050 --> 00:38:04.409
they piece together some kind of like tribute show line
721
00:38:04.429 --> 00:38:06.130
up sort of thing get out of there I don't
722
00:38:06.150 --> 00:38:07.760
care but the fact we're just getting this sort of
723
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.199
last Dysphere album as again a sort of celebration of
724
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:14.019
everything the band support and those members and their lives
725
00:38:14.579 --> 00:38:18.739
I mean, that fucking rules. And again, like, it's coming
726
00:38:18.780 --> 00:38:21.000
so soon. It's nipping it at the end of this year.
727
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.260
And I was just like, ah, that's my album of
728
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.400
the year list about to get a real shake up.
729
00:38:25.980 --> 00:38:27.840
And this has been just a year of double helpings
730
00:38:28.099 --> 00:38:34.239
from artists that we fucking love. Like, and getting one
731
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.289
more gift from Thomas Lindbergh. Fucking, like, you couldn't ask
732
00:38:38.329 --> 00:38:42.389
for anything better. Like, what a fucking guy. And just, yeah,
733
00:38:42.530 --> 00:38:43.769
this song fucking rules.
734
00:38:44.250 --> 00:38:48.929
Yeah, because I stumbled into the news of this Dysphere
735
00:38:48.969 --> 00:38:51.739
album about two or three days before it was announced,
736
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.920
through some insider circles or whatever. But I did not
737
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:57.960
yet really have the context for it. I didn't know
738
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.280
what this record was. I didn't know when it was
739
00:39:01.300 --> 00:39:04.599
being released. And I spent those few days furiously trying
740
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.570
to find out more. And just as it happened, I
741
00:39:08.610 --> 00:39:12.570
was doing that about half past midnight on, I think
742
00:39:12.590 --> 00:39:15.650
it was Tuesday that the single came out. And just,
743
00:39:15.769 --> 00:39:17.090
you know, while I was just trying to find out
744
00:39:17.110 --> 00:39:20.599
more about the Despair record, looked on streaming and oh shit,
745
00:39:20.820 --> 00:39:24.380
they've just dropped the single. It's out. And putting that
746
00:39:24.420 --> 00:39:28.110
song in that moment and Thomas Lindbergh, his collected, you know,
747
00:39:28.150 --> 00:39:30.199
career is one of the most significant artists. in my
748
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.920
life like he's one of my favourites ever I've gone
749
00:39:32.980 --> 00:39:34.260
on and on about At The Gates and what they
750
00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:35.699
mean to me I will do in future when we
751
00:39:35.739 --> 00:39:38.079
do more about At The Gates but that counts for
752
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.159
Dysphia as well and thinking that I had had the
753
00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:45.119
last Thomas Lindbergh album I was ever going to receive
754
00:39:45.539 --> 00:39:47.949
with the At The Gates album earlier this year um
755
00:39:48.570 --> 00:39:52.320
And that still does count as his last testament, so
756
00:39:52.340 --> 00:39:53.760
to speak, because it's the recording he went and did
757
00:39:53.860 --> 00:39:56.780
right before his vocal surgery and eventually passing away. But
758
00:39:57.019 --> 00:40:00.000
thinking I had had the last gift from Thomas Lindbergh,
759
00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:02.139
as you put it, I was going to get, and
760
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.320
then discovering there's one more, and it's from a band
761
00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:07.210
who I also fucking love, who had not released anything
762
00:40:07.250 --> 00:40:09.449
in my time of being into them. Putting that single
763
00:40:09.469 --> 00:40:15.349
on that moment, I basically cried. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. Yeah,
764
00:40:15.510 --> 00:40:20.150
so fucking incredible news. Definitely... one of the last out-of-the-gate
765
00:40:20.260 --> 00:40:22.960
albums for 2026 that you're not going to want to miss.
766
00:40:23.340 --> 00:40:27.800
The new Dysphia album, The Last Nail, comes November 20th.
767
00:40:28.019 --> 00:40:35.139
And speaking of unlikely, whispered-about-in-the-dark corners of the rock community comebacks,
768
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:40.110
let's talk about what Tobias Forge has been up to.
769
00:40:40.369 --> 00:40:43.110
Because there are multiple wings of this. The first thing
770
00:40:43.150 --> 00:40:45.630
to say is that Tobias Forge, obviously a ghost papper,
771
00:40:46.260 --> 00:40:49.480
His last several Ghost interviews over the summer has seemed
772
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.639
quite reluctant about committing to Ghost. I don't know how
773
00:40:53.659 --> 00:40:58.320
much of this you've seen, but with the Skeletor album
774
00:40:58.340 --> 00:41:00.570
cycle wrapping up for them and then culminating, as the
775
00:41:00.610 --> 00:41:02.699
Impero one did with the release of the film that
776
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.289
came out in the summer, Tobias doing press and stuff
777
00:41:05.329 --> 00:41:07.909
around that, he was kind of saying, I've got no
778
00:41:07.929 --> 00:41:10.250
plans for Ghost right now. He kind of seemed like
779
00:41:10.289 --> 00:41:13.190
he was maybe a little burned out by it, maybe
780
00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:17.110
just he wanted some time not having... all eyes on
781
00:41:17.150 --> 00:41:19.050
him in the same way like you know wanting to
782
00:41:19.389 --> 00:41:21.840
exist in a kind of more low pressure environment for
783
00:41:21.860 --> 00:41:23.010
a while he was like i don't really have any
784
00:41:23.050 --> 00:41:26.760
inspiration to rush into another ghost album right now and
785
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.820
uh ghost again i don't know how long or significant
786
00:41:30.860 --> 00:41:33.559
or whatever their break or hiatus might be but it
787
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.760
certainly seems like at least for the meantime he kind
788
00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:39.119
of wants to step back and do something else simultaneously
789
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:44.719
i started hearing rumors about repugnant coming back and I
790
00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:47.079
don't really know where these, you know, started, but you
791
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:49.699
just hear whispers like, I've heard someone, you know, someone
792
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.940
in Sweden has said that Tobias is getting repugnant about together.
793
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:54.539
And then it started to gain steam where there was
794
00:41:54.579 --> 00:41:56.340
a guy in a studio somewhere who was like, yeah,
795
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.789
Tobias came in and he was recording some death metal. So,
796
00:41:59.449 --> 00:42:03.510
word of Tobias doing a death metal project started to,
797
00:42:03.690 --> 00:42:05.289
you know, leak out again. And if you know your
798
00:42:05.530 --> 00:42:07.869
ghost history, you will know that Tobias Forge was in,
799
00:42:08.030 --> 00:42:10.590
in my opinion, one of, if not the greatest death
800
00:42:10.610 --> 00:42:12.699
metal band of the 21st century, if only for one album,
801
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.719
with Repugnant. Yeah. and their album Epitome of Darkness, which
802
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.469
we did an album club on it in 2021, I
803
00:42:18.489 --> 00:42:19.789
want to say, so go back and listen to that.
804
00:42:19.809 --> 00:42:20.889
It was early in my time, yeah.
805
00:42:21.269 --> 00:42:26.269
Yeah. For me, that is genuinely in my top 10
806
00:42:26.269 --> 00:42:28.960
or top 20 favourite death metal albums ever. I adore
807
00:42:29.179 --> 00:42:31.119
that album. I fucking love Repugnant. But the idea that
808
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.119
Repugnant would come back when Ghosts were so successful just
809
00:42:33.139 --> 00:42:36.440
seemed absurd. And then a third strand of this is
810
00:42:36.460 --> 00:42:38.539
that we've known for a while that Tobias Forge was
811
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:40.719
going to be involved with the new VHS movie, the
812
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.489
VHS movie franchise that puts out a movie around Halloween
813
00:42:44.550 --> 00:42:47.369
on Shudder, the streaming service, basically every year. They've kind
814
00:42:47.389 --> 00:42:49.369
of had links to alternative music before. We had a
815
00:42:49.409 --> 00:42:53.030
Holy Blade song released on VHS credits and all sorts
816
00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:54.710
like that. And it kind of came out that Tobias
817
00:42:54.730 --> 00:42:58.440
was doing something with VHS, supposedly directing a segment of it,
818
00:42:58.449 --> 00:43:00.650
which was like, okay, I'm not too surprised to hear
819
00:43:00.690 --> 00:43:03.619
Tobias is getting into directing at least on a kind
820
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:06.019
of more small indie horror kind of you know yeah
821
00:43:06.099 --> 00:43:10.300
level well that vhs movie had its premiere uh this
822
00:43:10.340 --> 00:43:13.150
week and it turns out that the thing that tobias
823
00:43:13.190 --> 00:43:16.170
was doing with vhs was directing what's currently labeled as
824
00:43:16.190 --> 00:43:18.230
like sort of being described as like a music video-esque
825
00:43:18.389 --> 00:43:23.210
segment in the new vhs movie and it's further reunited repugnant.
826
00:43:24.349 --> 00:43:31.090
What the fuck Like, I have been... I... Like, I
827
00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:32.780
prod the VHS fans as one of the most nice, like,
828
00:43:33.150 --> 00:43:35.269
five out of ten horror franchises with maybe like one
829
00:43:35.309 --> 00:43:37.829
good segment each time. I'll tune in and watch it
830
00:43:37.889 --> 00:43:39.869
every year for that one good segment. And now I'm
831
00:43:39.949 --> 00:43:42.449
genuinely just like, this is the most baller thing the
832
00:43:42.489 --> 00:43:43.929
VHS movies have ever done.
833
00:43:44.250 --> 00:43:45.969
You can release one out of tens for the rest
834
00:43:45.989 --> 00:43:47.679
of your franchise. You gave us Repugnant back.
835
00:43:47.739 --> 00:43:51.360
You gave us fucking Repugnant back. Like, that's so... Again, I...
836
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.059
My introduction to Repugnant was that album club and I
837
00:43:54.059 --> 00:43:56.760
was like, this is a ripper. And I just thought
838
00:43:56.780 --> 00:43:59.340
the idea of Tobias Forge ever doing this again felt laughable.
839
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.059
When you go into some of the stuff that was
840
00:44:01.179 --> 00:44:04.000
on that album, it felt just so comical, the notion
841
00:44:04.019 --> 00:44:05.500
that he would ever go back to doing this when
842
00:44:05.539 --> 00:44:08.500
he's got, you know, Ghost going on. But the fact
843
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:11.469
that in the midst of Ghost at their peak and pomp,
844
00:44:11.510 --> 00:44:13.909
he's gone, yeah, we're getting Repentant back and we're making
845
00:44:13.949 --> 00:44:17.070
our return as a segment in a horror anthology series.
846
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:19.380
In a way, that feels so fitting for him, in
847
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:25.039
different ways. But this is, yeah, I'm excited to watch
848
00:44:25.099 --> 00:44:28.219
the new VHS movie now, to just see what this
849
00:44:28.940 --> 00:44:32.179
repugnant music video segment in a horror movie turns out
850
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.639
to be. But in general, the fact that it's just
851
00:44:35.659 --> 00:44:37.000
back is bewildering.
852
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:41.659
Yeah, and we don't have an official announcement right now.
853
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.409
What we have is, like I said, this VHS movie
854
00:44:43.469 --> 00:44:48.550
premiered this week, and... Essentially, we are pulling together scraps
855
00:44:48.570 --> 00:44:51.989
of information from people who were at that premiere. So
856
00:44:52.289 --> 00:44:53.610
the full extent of what Repugnant are going to be
857
00:44:53.630 --> 00:44:55.920
up to has not yet been revealed to us. But
858
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:59.900
we do have, from the credits of the movie, we
859
00:44:59.960 --> 00:45:03.380
have a listed lineup for Repugnant. Because Repugnant, in their
860
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:09.800
initial form, was fronted and played guitar and did vocals.
861
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:13.429
Tobias Forge, obviously, under his death metal pseudonym, Mary Gore.
862
00:45:13.449 --> 00:45:16.389
LAUGHTER The lineup for the rest of Repugnant, which over
863
00:45:16.409 --> 00:45:20.199
the years shifted, contained many different people, many of them
864
00:45:20.449 --> 00:45:22.460
went on to be in or were just starting out
865
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:26.019
being in also some of the great Swedish underground metal
866
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:28.599
bands who were starting around that period, so members of Tribulation,
867
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.039
members of Insolitude, all these type of people went through
868
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:35.699
the Repugnant ranks, and some of them played session live
869
00:45:35.739 --> 00:45:37.340
guitars or whatever for Ghost at various points in time.
870
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.340
There are links between Ghost and all these underground Swedish bands.
871
00:45:40.110 --> 00:45:41.829
Which is part of why Ghost fucking rule. And then
872
00:45:41.849 --> 00:45:44.349
the accusations of Poseidon or whatever for Ghost just come
873
00:45:44.369 --> 00:45:49.800
from a place of complete, you know, ineducation. The fucking
874
00:45:49.820 --> 00:45:53.719
line-up credited for this really, like, very repugnant in this movie.
875
00:45:54.219 --> 00:45:57.139
Tobias Forge is credited just as Guitar. He's not the
876
00:45:57.179 --> 00:45:59.659
vocalist like he was back then, which I think speaks to, again,
877
00:45:59.739 --> 00:46:03.460
basically him not wanting to be a frontman for a while. Like,
878
00:46:03.820 --> 00:46:05.289
he wants to step away from Ghost and just do
879
00:46:05.309 --> 00:46:06.809
something that's a little bit more low-stace for him. He
880
00:46:06.829 --> 00:46:09.679
doesn't want to be the centre of the limelight for this,
881
00:46:09.780 --> 00:46:12.710
even though Repugnant is very much his band. Elsewhere, we've
882
00:46:12.730 --> 00:46:16.289
got Thomas Downe on drums, who was the drummer who
883
00:46:16.389 --> 00:46:21.409
recorded the original Repugnant album, Epitome of Darkness. Similarly, we
884
00:46:21.449 --> 00:46:26.820
have Gustav Lindström on bass, who was the Repugnant bassist. Also,
885
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.880
by the way, the accredited session bassist on Ghost's Opus Eponymous.
886
00:46:30.260 --> 00:46:36.269
So there's the lineage going there. Gottfried Amann. From In Solitude,
887
00:46:37.150 --> 00:46:40.170
in my opinion, all-time classic 21st century heavy metal band
888
00:46:40.210 --> 00:46:44.130
In Solitude. Their bassist, he's playing guitar in Repugnant. He
889
00:46:44.190 --> 00:46:45.969
also is one of those people who had played in
890
00:46:46.010 --> 00:46:48.360
Repugnant Live at some point or another, also played with
891
00:46:48.389 --> 00:46:51.539
Ghost Live. And then the vocalist, if you're wondering, oh,
892
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.219
if Tobias isn't doing the vocals, who's going to front Repugnant?
893
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:57.199
It's fucking Eric Danielson from Wattain.
894
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.420
When I saw that, I was like, you are shitting me.
895
00:47:00.420 --> 00:47:05.340
LAUGHTER repugnant back and eric danielson is front there that's
896
00:47:05.860 --> 00:47:08.159
sick like because i was like i thought i was
897
00:47:08.179 --> 00:47:10.019
like just twice or did he just did he not
898
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:11.949
feel he can do the screams anymore is he or
899
00:47:12.030 --> 00:47:14.170
is he like say he just wants to be playing
900
00:47:14.190 --> 00:47:15.929
guitar and writing this sort of music and playing some
901
00:47:15.949 --> 00:47:19.849
music without being the center of attention i again i
902
00:47:19.969 --> 00:47:21.610
i can't talk to his points in repugnant i've not
903
00:47:21.650 --> 00:47:23.789
really ever seen anything from it but like i imagine
904
00:47:23.809 --> 00:47:26.289
he must have been still some degree of the showman
905
00:47:26.329 --> 00:47:29.860
that he he is so when you're getting one of the, again,
906
00:47:30.340 --> 00:47:36.539
the extreme metal, like, demonic, rip your throat out, showman,
907
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.219
who can still scream like a motherfucker to front your repugnant,
908
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.519
that is a statement of, and again, we know that
909
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.159
Watain are obviously on the wind down as well, so
910
00:47:46.179 --> 00:47:49.139
is this now, is this now, like, Watain wind down,
911
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.599
Eric's going, ah, cool, I'll step into, you know, front
912
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.780
one of the kind of like legendary cult death metal
913
00:47:53.820 --> 00:47:57.619
bands in Repugnant alongside the guy from Ghost, that's insane.
914
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:00.500
I mean, Eric has got everything on the go, because
915
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.199
he has been fronting the Blood, Fire, Death, Bathory tribute
916
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.059
for a couple of years. Now, he's been playing drums.
917
00:48:07.099 --> 00:48:08.880
He kind of stepped back very recently to focus on
918
00:48:08.900 --> 00:48:12.820
the Watain farewell run. But he's been playing drums in
919
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:16.300
the reunited version of Morbid, the cult Swedish metal band,
920
00:48:16.570 --> 00:48:20.409
early extreme metal band, who are one of Repugnant's primary inspirations.
921
00:48:20.449 --> 00:48:23.369
So there's clearly... Eric is another guy who's very busy,
922
00:48:23.510 --> 00:48:25.929
very committed to the cause of heavy metal, gets around.
923
00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:26.130
So.
924
00:48:26.730 --> 00:48:28.909
Again, with the links that they have, it's not necessarily
925
00:48:28.929 --> 00:48:32.489
too surprising. But it's just the idea that, like, fucking
926
00:48:32.590 --> 00:48:35.010
ghosts are going on a hiatus. And what Tobias Forge
927
00:48:35.050 --> 00:48:39.909
is doing is ringing up his pal from Watain, the fucking, like,
928
00:48:40.349 --> 00:48:46.150
pig's blood band, and restarting his cult, horrible Swedish death
929
00:48:46.170 --> 00:48:48.449
metal band. And that's just incredible to me. I mean,
930
00:48:48.469 --> 00:48:50.420
the fact that, you know, we spoke a little while
931
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.500
ago about how certain ghost fans went down an internet
932
00:48:52.539 --> 00:48:55.159
rabbit hole of discovering Repugnant and being kind of scandalised.
933
00:48:55.469 --> 00:48:57.610
Let's make sure they don't go down the Watain rabbit hole.
934
00:48:57.630 --> 00:48:58.719
Oh, mate, I can't.
935
00:48:58.739 --> 00:49:00.039
That's the only feeling.
936
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:03.739
It's like, oh, there are certain Watain photos out there
937
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:05.440
that could.
938
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.840
There are stories, there are skeletons in that closet.
939
00:49:07.860 --> 00:49:09.179
Oh, man.
940
00:49:09.340 --> 00:49:13.670
That's something for them to discover. But what an incredible
941
00:49:14.269 --> 00:49:17.190
lineage that's going on. The full extent of what Repugnant
942
00:49:17.230 --> 00:49:18.929
are doing here, again, all we know right now is
943
00:49:18.949 --> 00:49:22.059
that they have this music video in the vhs movie
944
00:49:22.139 --> 00:49:26.519
that's coming out interesting details here it's credited premature burial
945
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:29.059
that's a repugnant song like that's from epitome of darkness
946
00:49:29.420 --> 00:49:33.210
but it seems to be re-recorded with this uh lineup
947
00:49:33.630 --> 00:49:37.070
um it also apparently uh was referenced something called re-epitome
948
00:49:37.460 --> 00:49:39.820
of Darkness, so I don't know if that is just
949
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:41.929
a fun little nod for the music video, or whether
950
00:49:41.949 --> 00:49:44.750
there are plans to just release and re-record.
951
00:49:44.869 --> 00:49:45.949
Remaster the record.
952
00:49:46.150 --> 00:49:48.889
Yeah, the entirety of Epitome of Darkness, which I don't
953
00:49:48.929 --> 00:49:52.010
necessarily need, because it's a perfect album, Epitome of Darkness.
954
00:49:52.329 --> 00:49:53.570
If you're going to hand me one and go, yeah,
955
00:49:53.610 --> 00:49:55.369
this is a version with Eric Danielson singing or whatever,
956
00:49:56.150 --> 00:49:57.989
I would listen to it, absolutely, but I wouldn't say
957
00:49:58.010 --> 00:50:00.539
that's absolutely what would be the most exciting for me.
958
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:02.500
What would be the most exciting for me is obviously
959
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.670
new music, if we got a follow-up repugnant album, One
960
00:50:06.690 --> 00:50:08.389
of the, in my opinion, the great one and done,
961
00:50:08.690 --> 00:50:11.130
you know, one album wonders in metal history. Brilliant news.
962
00:50:12.010 --> 00:50:13.409
If I got a chance to see Repokonant, that would
963
00:50:13.429 --> 00:50:16.510
be a whole other thing entirely. But just the weird
964
00:50:16.570 --> 00:50:20.360
roundabout way that this news has gradually percolated and then
965
00:50:20.739 --> 00:50:22.480
come out here and to the audience who are going
966
00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:25.159
to be receiving it, it's just... In a week where
967
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.179
we had some really, you know, sad, devastating, shitty news,
968
00:50:28.539 --> 00:50:29.380
this made me smile.
969
00:50:30.260 --> 00:50:31.820
Sweden's come through, like.
970
00:50:32.179 --> 00:50:35.559
Sweden saved the day this week, absolutely. So look forward
971
00:50:35.579 --> 00:50:37.719
to the new Dysphere album. I look forward to hearing
972
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.019
what the fuck Repugnant are going to come out and do.
973
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:42.280
And if you have never heard of Repugnant, if you're
974
00:50:42.300 --> 00:50:43.579
a Ghost fan, if you're a Death Metal fan, you've
975
00:50:43.619 --> 00:50:46.280
never heard of Repugnant, go back, listen to A Picnic
976
00:50:46.300 --> 00:50:48.139
of Darkness, go find our album chat we did on
977
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:50.840
it about five years ago. It's an absolute banger. Elsewhere,
978
00:50:50.980 --> 00:50:54.280
let's get moving. Clutch, we got a new song from
979
00:50:54.300 --> 00:50:55.809
them a while ago. They have just also confirmed that
980
00:50:55.829 --> 00:50:57.949
their new album is on the way. It's called Wasted Lands.
981
00:50:58.820 --> 00:51:00.449
which was the title of the song they released a
982
00:51:00.449 --> 00:51:03.800
little while ago, and that's coming out January 22nd of 2027,
983
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.400
so an early highlight, an early one to look forward
984
00:51:06.420 --> 00:51:12.099
to on the calendar for next year. Festival news, live news,
985
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.000
in lieu of any stadium tour announcements that don't have
986
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.079
accused rapists on them, let's move on to the festivals,
987
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:22.940
and we got two of our big primary UK rock
988
00:51:22.980 --> 00:51:27.690
festival first wave line-up announcements this week. They are from
989
00:51:27.730 --> 00:51:30.710
Slam Dunk, and they are from Arc Tangent. Let's start
990
00:51:30.730 --> 00:51:32.699
with Slam Dunk, just because it makes it really funny
991
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.920
how good the Arc Tangent one is in comparison. Slam
992
00:51:35.940 --> 00:51:39.929
Dunk's first line-up for next year, which is a whole
993
00:51:39.949 --> 00:51:43.199
load of bands. I will go through... I don't know
994
00:51:43.219 --> 00:51:45.429
how many of these I should actually go fully read out.
995
00:51:45.449 --> 00:51:47.989
It's quite exhausting to read all these names in sequence.
996
00:51:48.710 --> 00:51:51.010
But the main stage has got Bowling for Soup, Simple Plan,
997
00:51:51.050 --> 00:51:54.619
Real Big Fish, Less Than Jake, The Interrupters, and Greed 2.
998
00:51:54.619 --> 00:51:57.260
The heavier stage is going to be topped by Killswitch Engage,
999
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.570
and then also Beartooth and The Amity Affliction. Wage War
1000
00:52:00.670 --> 00:52:03.130
on that stage. There's a third stage with Sleeping With Sirens,
1001
00:52:03.170 --> 00:52:05.829
The Used, The Main, We The Kings, The Academy, As
1002
00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:07.889
Cute As What We Aim For. A fourth, kind of
1003
00:52:07.929 --> 00:52:11.210
more modern emo-y looking stage has The Front Bottoms at
1004
00:52:11.250 --> 00:52:14.849
the top. Currently also features Trophy Eyes doing a Chemical
1005
00:52:14.889 --> 00:52:17.510
Miracle set by the looks of it, Knuckle Puck. And
1006
00:52:17.550 --> 00:52:21.090
there's also a fifth stage at the bottom with Hot
1007
00:52:21.110 --> 00:52:23.030
Milk at the top right now and a few other
1008
00:52:23.050 --> 00:52:24.630
bands on there as well.
1009
00:52:25.150 --> 00:52:25.650
Sam!
1010
00:52:26.739 --> 00:52:31.449
Slam Dunk 2027. At what point... This is a genuine question.
1011
00:52:31.829 --> 00:52:34.230
At what point do we stop reporting on Slam Dunk
1012
00:52:34.269 --> 00:52:37.289
line-up announcements because you know every single time that they're
1013
00:52:37.309 --> 00:52:38.449
going to be the same bands on it?
1014
00:52:39.329 --> 00:52:41.860
Here's the thing. I clicked this and one logo immediately
1015
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:43.070
jumped to my mind. I was like, oh, fuck yeah,
1016
00:52:43.110 --> 00:52:44.900
Slam Dunk looks sick. And then I saw everything else.
1017
00:52:44.940 --> 00:52:47.079
And then you see the rest.
1018
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:48.559
And the thing is... What I want to say, right?
1019
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:52.269
I know we are ribbing. That main stage... I think
1020
00:52:52.789 --> 00:52:57.210
I take very little issue with. That stage exists at
1021
00:52:57.230 --> 00:52:59.750
Slam Dunk. It always has. Those bands have their place
1022
00:52:59.769 --> 00:53:02.409
at Slam Dunk. Real Big Fierce Listen, Jake. I think
1023
00:53:02.429 --> 00:53:04.679
The Interrupter is always a great addition for it. Bowling
1024
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.980
for Super Headline in the noughties pop punk stage.
1025
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:08.559
Fine.
1026
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:12.340
I think it's slightly troubling that that's your main stage.
1027
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.199
I think that is kind of raising some flags. I
1028
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:17.320
don't take that much issue with Bowling for Super Headline
1029
00:53:17.340 --> 00:53:17.599
at Slam Dunk.
1030
00:53:17.659 --> 00:53:17.719
If.
1031
00:53:19.179 --> 00:53:20.559
Are Bowling for.
1032
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.019
Soup actually confirmed to be headliner? Or is it they've
1033
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:25.340
not yet announced their main stage headliner? Because I would personally,
1034
00:53:26.059 --> 00:53:28.280
I know they're slam dunk fodder, I would be shocked
1035
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.409
and slightly aghast if their full-on main stage headliner was
1036
00:53:31.449 --> 00:53:31.949
Bowling for Soup.
1037
00:53:32.650 --> 00:53:35.389
Well, them and Simple Plan have both done arenas recently.
1038
00:53:36.909 --> 00:53:39.190
Oh, Jesus. I looked at this and I was like,
1039
00:53:39.250 --> 00:53:40.469
surely there's another bigger one to come.
1040
00:53:41.610 --> 00:53:44.639
I think that's headliners. And as I say, if Saxon
1041
00:53:44.659 --> 00:53:46.920
can headline a day of Bloodstock, then Bowling for Soup
1042
00:53:46.940 --> 00:53:49.059
would be allowed to headline slam dunk. They are the
1043
00:53:49.099 --> 00:53:50.840
same bands, essentially, let's be honest.
1044
00:53:51.340 --> 00:53:53.570
That is the most bullshit thing you've ever said in
1045
00:53:53.670 --> 00:53:55.030
years and years of this podcast.
1046
00:53:55.090 --> 00:53:57.329
But all of them have more good songs, to be fair.
1047
00:53:57.820 --> 00:53:59.860
No, they don't! Stop this madness!
1048
00:54:01.150 --> 00:54:04.469
But, like, I don't think that stage you can actually
1049
00:54:04.489 --> 00:54:06.989
take much issue with, outside of it being the main stage.
1050
00:54:07.409 --> 00:54:08.849
Real Big Fish, Les and Jake, they play it all
1051
00:54:08.869 --> 00:54:11.449
the time fine, but they're fun at Slam Dunk. My
1052
00:54:11.590 --> 00:54:13.969
issue with this line-up came when I saw the Metalcore stage,
1053
00:54:14.010 --> 00:54:17.179
and again, I saw Killswitch Engage. I was like, fuck yeah,
1054
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.420
my band, that band I love so much, I headline Slam,
1055
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:22.739
that's a really cool booking. And then I looked and
1056
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.099
was like, why have you booked your Metalcore stage and
1057
00:54:25.179 --> 00:54:27.639
not booked a single band that has anything to do
1058
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:32.079
with Killswitch Engage? What are you fucking doing? Like, I'm sorry,
1059
00:54:32.579 --> 00:54:38.550
but Beartooth Waves won the Amity Affliction. It's 2027.
1060
00:54:38.550 --> 00:54:40.489
Those being the more modern bands, that could be one thing.
1061
00:54:41.010 --> 00:54:45.690
Their fans don't really care about Killswitch Engage. Exactly, that's
1062
00:54:45.769 --> 00:54:49.010
exactly it. What's happened here is Killswitch Engage and Motionless
1063
00:54:49.050 --> 00:54:50.820
in White, their addresses have got mixed up in the post.
1064
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:54.980
Killswitch Engage should be headlining Bloodstock, where I could watch
1065
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:56.900
Children of Bodom into Killswitch Engage and have a great time.
1066
00:54:57.300 --> 00:54:59.840
And Motionless in White should be headlining... I guess motion
1067
00:54:59.900 --> 00:55:02.010
is probably too big to headline like the third stage
1068
00:55:02.030 --> 00:55:05.909
or whatever it is of, but the math thematically, it
1069
00:55:05.949 --> 00:55:06.730
fits so much more.
1070
00:55:07.590 --> 00:55:09.420
Yeah, it really does. And like, again, I look at
1071
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:12.280
this and go like, you could have built such a six. Look,
1072
00:55:12.750 --> 00:55:15.369
I don't get how Slam Dunk will lean into nostalgia
1073
00:55:15.489 --> 00:55:17.889
everywhere fucking else. And then on the metalcore stage, they're
1074
00:55:17.949 --> 00:55:21.329
trying to still... But, I mean, we say modern bands. Amity, Affliction,
1075
00:55:21.369 --> 00:55:24.820
Wager On, Beartooth. Can we really call them, like, modern
1076
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:26.239
bands anymore? Like, they are so relic.
1077
00:55:26.260 --> 00:55:27.539
More modern than Killstone, which is what I was getting at.
1078
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:29.820
Yeah, no, I know. But I'm like, why could they
1079
00:55:29.860 --> 00:55:33.500
not have booked a fucking, like, noughties metalcore stage around that?
1080
00:55:34.139 --> 00:55:37.139
Put Bleeding Through on there. Put 18 Visions and Poison
1081
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:37.360
the World.
1082
00:55:37.409 --> 00:55:38.849
Like, all that shit. Sure, yeah.
1083
00:55:39.130 --> 00:55:42.500
Like, yeah, like... I would have bought my fucking slam-on-the-kit
1084
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:42.940
then and there.
1085
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:44.929
I would attempt it to go if there was at
1086
00:55:44.949 --> 00:55:45.630
least one stage.
1087
00:55:45.650 --> 00:55:48.110
I could just have a stage where I'm seeing all
1088
00:55:48.130 --> 00:55:50.170
of the naughty metalcore and I can just fling my
1089
00:55:50.230 --> 00:55:51.989
arms around. And I go like, that would be great.
1090
00:55:52.030 --> 00:55:53.170
But then you look at the rest of it. Like, again,
1091
00:55:53.409 --> 00:55:55.909
I think the more contemporary pop-punk emo stage, I think
1092
00:55:55.929 --> 00:55:58.269
that's actually, again, that stage, I think it's pretty good.
1093
00:55:58.309 --> 00:56:00.309
I think, I don't particularly care for the front bottoms,
1094
00:56:00.349 --> 00:56:03.030
but their sort of comeback has been pretty well received. Like,
1095
00:56:03.449 --> 00:56:05.619
They did a seemingly good job at Outbreak. I think
1096
00:56:05.619 --> 00:56:08.619
4 Year Strong, always good. I know that Trophy Eyes
1097
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:12.619
album is really well liked. Knuckle Pup still exists, cool.
1098
00:56:12.739 --> 00:56:15.199
Love Rarely on that stage and they're really good actually.
1099
00:56:15.539 --> 00:56:18.000
They're a very new band to release now. That's really
1100
00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:21.159
good and definitely worth your attention if you're into kind
1101
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.380
of more kind of like melodic but slightly angular spiky emo.
1102
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.480
And then that bottom stage is for people who don't
1103
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:30.920
like music. Sure, whatever. But it just feels so like...
1104
00:56:31.730 --> 00:56:33.389
What's the point in Slam Dunk anymore?
1105
00:56:33.570 --> 00:56:34.730
Like, I.
1106
00:56:35.070 --> 00:56:38.949
Again, Slam Dunk having a flavour of nostalgia, fine. But they, like...
1107
00:56:39.530 --> 00:56:41.349
They could always still, like, chain together at least a
1108
00:56:41.389 --> 00:56:43.469
really good, like, heavy stage. I think the years I've
1109
00:56:43.489 --> 00:56:47.570
gone on, like, you know, here's Comeback Kid and, like.
1110
00:56:48.769 --> 00:56:50.750
every time i die yeah.
1111
00:56:50.849 --> 00:56:53.050
Other cool hardcore bands and metal bands and like you
1112
00:56:53.070 --> 00:56:54.650
know straight from the path could rock up and make
1113
00:56:54.670 --> 00:56:57.780
the crowd bounce and it was always doing cool stuff
1114
00:56:57.800 --> 00:56:59.980
on that and i don't know if this is you
1115
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.639
know a byproduct of the rise of like outbreak where
1116
00:57:02.699 --> 00:57:04.059
all of those bands now just go we'll just go
1117
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:07.219
play outbreak because it'll be better for us like but
1118
00:57:07.260 --> 00:57:09.260
i just look it just it's so depressing to look
1119
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.940
at kill switch engage and then see a stage full
1120
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:13.690
of bands that have nothing to do with them and
1121
00:57:13.710 --> 00:57:17.369
then you go oh cool sleeping with sirens the use
1122
00:57:17.409 --> 00:57:19.630
the main we the kings the academy is cute is
1123
00:57:19.650 --> 00:57:22.730
what we aim for why elder emos need to be
1124
00:57:22.769 --> 00:57:24.409
lined up and shot if this is what we are
1125
00:57:24.460 --> 00:57:27.039
getting as a result of their music taste I am
1126
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.739
I'm sorry I like I you know when we were
1127
00:57:30.860 --> 00:57:34.409
we were slagging off that fucking who is it Elliot
1128
00:57:34.429 --> 00:57:37.630
Minor and whichever one I can't remember we were slagging
1129
00:57:37.650 --> 00:57:39.650
that off last week and now we have to look
1130
00:57:39.710 --> 00:57:43.309
at fucking this like and I said last week that
1131
00:57:43.369 --> 00:57:45.789
tour can exist on the Slammock line up but now
1132
00:57:45.809 --> 00:57:48.289
we've got that and this and it's just like oh
1133
00:57:48.409 --> 00:57:52.050
Jesus Christ lads we've got to move on like kill
1134
00:57:52.070 --> 00:57:54.269
the noughties off I love the noughties they might have
1135
00:57:54.309 --> 00:57:56.289
to die if this is what we're still having to
1136
00:57:56.329 --> 00:57:57.679
put up with This is the thing.
1137
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.030
I don't think this is necessarily entirely Slam Dunk's fault,
1138
00:58:01.050 --> 00:58:03.849
because I think it is a result of the kind
1139
00:58:03.889 --> 00:58:07.489
of music in which Slam Dunk specialises, having run so
1140
00:58:07.590 --> 00:58:10.070
bone dry and completely run out of ideas in the
1141
00:58:10.090 --> 00:58:12.750
last ten years. But I remember when I first heard
1142
00:58:12.769 --> 00:58:15.309
of Slam Dunk, when I was getting into rock music
1143
00:58:15.449 --> 00:58:18.719
in the early 2010s or whatever, and there would be a...
1144
00:58:19.610 --> 00:58:21.579
Of course, there'd be the shit bands I don't like,
1145
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:22.980
you meet at six with Headliner, whatever, I don't care.
1146
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.219
There would be a healthy.
1147
00:58:26.019 --> 00:58:27.900
Proportion of not even just like heavy bands That I
1148
00:58:27.940 --> 00:58:29.360
like as a guy who likes heavy music but just
1149
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:33.559
like Upcoming newer bands right Who like you know I've
1150
00:58:33.619 --> 00:58:35.619
never Cared about the likes of I don't know Knucklepuck
1151
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:37.300
or whatever But when they were like first breaking through
1152
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:38.429
and they were on there You go okay yeah there's
1153
00:58:38.469 --> 00:58:42.170
a newer band in Your you know scene Who are
1154
00:58:42.469 --> 00:58:44.150
emerging on this thing and it always Felt like you
1155
00:58:44.170 --> 00:58:45.849
could go to Slam Dunk and like you know Creeper
1156
00:58:45.909 --> 00:58:47.369
On their first album playing it whatever all this kind
1157
00:58:47.389 --> 00:58:49.309
of stuff And I know that you've mentioned there.
1158
00:58:49.210 --> 00:58:50.769
Are bands I think they still had that like this
1159
00:58:50.789 --> 00:58:54.079
year just gone but It feels like that's like few
1160
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:56.179
and far between how well they get this it's now
1161
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:57.760
what you're about to go on to yeah well I.
1162
00:58:57.760 --> 00:58:58.780
Was about to say that I know that you've just
1163
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:00.329
mentioned for example about like Love Rarely who I'm not
1164
00:59:00.369 --> 00:59:01.909
familiar with but I trust that you know you've said
1165
00:59:01.929 --> 00:59:05.269
that they're a newer upcoming band who are worth something
1166
00:59:05.429 --> 00:59:07.760
but they're so tiny on this poster You can barely
1167
00:59:07.780 --> 00:59:09.219
see their logo. They're not the thing to jump out
1168
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.139
at you. What I think has happened with Slam Dunk
1169
00:59:11.539 --> 00:59:14.960
is I remember 10 plus years ago, and it felt
1170
00:59:14.980 --> 00:59:17.440
like there would be, it would be like a real
1171
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.800
festival lineup in that you would check in every year
1172
00:59:19.860 --> 00:59:23.070
and something different will have happened. Whereas Slam Dunk for
1173
00:59:23.090 --> 00:59:26.150
the entirety of the 2020s has been the most of
1174
00:59:26.230 --> 00:59:29.190
festival in stagnation. I have ever seen, and when I
1175
00:59:29.409 --> 00:59:31.389
open this saying, like, at what point do we just
1176
00:59:31.610 --> 00:59:34.599
stop bothering reporting on it, it's because every single year,
1177
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:37.500
you don't have to look, and you can guarantee that
1178
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.980
Sleeping With Sirens, the main, the used, we the kings,
1179
00:59:41.019 --> 00:59:42.539
the Academy is, and Qt is what we aim for,
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are going to be on this lineup, you are going
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to guarantee that, you know, some variation of Real Big Fish,
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00:59:48.010 --> 00:59:50.130
Less Than Jake, and, you know, Zebra Head, or whatever,
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00:59:50.150 --> 00:59:52.269
are going to be on the lineup, you can guarantee that,
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00:59:52.780 --> 00:59:54.539
what kind of you know if it is bully for
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00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:56.260
soup and simple plan who are there you can guarantee
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00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:57.280
that that's the kind of band who's going to be
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00:59:57.300 --> 01:00:01.079
there it's just the most i've i've never seen the
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01:00:01.099 --> 01:00:05.800
festival book the same thing the same pool of 50
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01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:10.639
bands again and again and again in perpetuity to the
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01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:13.780
degree that slam dunk currently do it's insane but.
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01:00:13.739 --> 01:00:16.070
This thing is that again i agree but like This
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01:00:16.090 --> 01:00:18.570
year just gone, they did have, like, some, you know,
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01:00:19.030 --> 01:00:21.269
Static Dress and Guilt Trip. And I know you weren't, like,
1194
01:00:21.590 --> 01:00:23.469
big on that sort of stuff, but you could tell
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01:00:23.489 --> 01:00:26.130
they were trying to inject some newer bands in and
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01:00:26.150 --> 01:00:27.690
amongst it. And I think the year they had Lex
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01:00:27.730 --> 01:00:30.550
on Fire headline, they did, like, some of that as well.
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01:00:31.389 --> 01:00:32.530
So they did sort of do it. It's been the
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last couple of years where it's felt so, like, so stagnant. Like, really,
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01:00:38.210 --> 01:00:40.989
particularly on the bigger scale, like, the top end of
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01:00:41.010 --> 01:00:43.329
the line-up. And that's the problem, is it's when the
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01:00:43.369 --> 01:00:45.730
top end of the line-up is so... rotten to the
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01:00:45.769 --> 01:00:48.250
core and you can't do anything about it. And that's
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01:00:48.289 --> 01:00:52.590
what this year feels like. Again, I love them. Kill
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01:00:52.610 --> 01:00:55.269
Switch Engage shouldn't actually be the most exciting band on
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01:00:55.329 --> 01:00:57.309
a line-up poster. I said this to someone who... One
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01:00:57.349 --> 01:00:59.650
of my favourite bands is Kill Switch Engage. They shouldn't
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01:00:59.750 --> 01:01:03.380
be the most exciting thing in 2027. Do you understand
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01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:05.699
what I'm saying? They should be like, fuck yeah, we're
1210
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:07.079
going to go watch an hour of Kill Switch Engage
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01:01:07.139 --> 01:01:09.460
and lose our voices. But they shouldn't be the sort
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01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:13.360
of like... holding up the entire line up on their
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01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.739
backs and I don't know if Killswitch I fucking love
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01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:17.730
Killswitch I don't know if their backs are strong enough
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01:01:18.349 --> 01:01:20.130
to hold up this amount.
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01:01:19.909 --> 01:01:21.489
Of shit in front of a bunch of Beartooth and
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01:01:21.510 --> 01:01:22.989
Wage War fans they're not like I said it's a
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01:01:23.030 --> 01:01:26.170
different it's a different audience so it's a weird booking
1219
01:01:26.670 --> 01:01:28.639
anyway but there you go that was slam dunk and
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01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:30.719
then as if to just like rub it in further
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01:01:30.780 --> 01:01:34.480
the same day about an hour later or something we
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01:01:34.500 --> 01:01:35.860
got the octangent.
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01:01:35.380 --> 01:01:37.780
This was this was it like the hydrogen bomb versus
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01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:39.280
coughing baby happens like.
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01:01:41.010 --> 01:01:46.650
The first Arctangent wave of bands for 2027. And it's headlined.
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01:01:46.690 --> 01:01:48.389
And I would just stress this, by the way. Arctangent
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01:01:48.449 --> 01:01:51.250
four-day festival. There's still two more headliners to come. Don't
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01:01:51.269 --> 01:01:52.969
know what they are. But the first two headliners that
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01:01:52.989 --> 01:01:57.260
have been announced are Blood Incantation and Neurosis. And there is,
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01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:59.539
I think, 43 bands on this poster. So I'm not
1231
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:00.920
going to read out all of them. But the top
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01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.360
few rows beyond the headliners. We've got the Wild Hearts
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01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:09.690
doing a special prog set. Slift, The Ocean, Mesa Conjurer,
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01:02:09.769 --> 01:02:13.309
Holy Thorn, Mull Employed to Serve doing 10 Years of
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01:02:13.329 --> 01:02:17.349
the Warmth of a Dying Sun Psychonaut, Loan If This
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01:02:17.409 --> 01:02:20.010
Tree Could Talk, Forest of Stars Are on there as well,
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01:02:20.269 --> 01:02:24.369
look right Art Tangent Historically and where it started and
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01:02:24.389 --> 01:02:28.110
where it formed It's like a math rock post rock Festival, right,
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01:02:28.309 --> 01:02:30.349
and there's a little bit Of discourse recently about some
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01:02:30.369 --> 01:02:31.949
of the people who are like The old school Art
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01:02:31.969 --> 01:02:33.889
Tangent purists Who go now and they go, oh there's
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01:02:33.909 --> 01:02:35.530
a bit more metal than they used to be. It's
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01:02:35.550 --> 01:02:38.130
just turning into a metal festival. I will say, I'm
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01:02:38.150 --> 01:02:41.349
a metal guy. I'm not really that involved in the
1245
01:02:41.409 --> 01:02:46.440
math rock or post-rock scenes or whatever. There are... 75%
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01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.039
of this poster is bands I've either not heard of
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01:02:49.539 --> 01:02:52.960
or I'm not actively really a fan of. So that should,
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01:02:52.980 --> 01:02:54.960
I think, put to bed the idea that it's getting
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01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.489
too metal and it's not got enough of the traditional
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01:02:57.550 --> 01:02:59.130
art tangent stuff. Because all the band names on this
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01:02:59.150 --> 01:03:01.469
where I don't know who they are and I recognise...
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01:03:02.340 --> 01:03:05.010
The words, the band names themselves They just sound so
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01:03:05.070 --> 01:03:07.429
much I don't know who Crash of Rhinos are They're a.
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01:03:07.429 --> 01:03:10.329
Really good emo band to be fair I was just
1255
01:03:10.349 --> 01:03:11.369
going to.
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01:03:11.309 --> 01:03:12.769
Say That's a band name that belongs on an Art
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01:03:12.789 --> 01:03:15.809
Tangent poster Same with If These Trees Could Talk And
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01:03:15.829 --> 01:03:17.909
all this type of stuff It's Art Tangent fair Din
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01:03:17.949 --> 01:03:18.969
of Celestial.
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01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:24.130
Birds Those sort of amalgamation of words Or names Those are.
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01:03:24.110 --> 01:03:26.929
Art Tangent core bands I think the core Art Tangent
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01:03:26.969 --> 01:03:29.070
faithful should be very satisfied That all of those stuff
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01:03:29.090 --> 01:03:31.019
are there But the things that they have dropped in
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01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:35.900
for me make this just the most exciting news that
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01:03:35.940 --> 01:03:39.630
we could possibly get. A number, again, a good five
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01:03:39.710 --> 01:03:42.550
or six for me, you know, things that I love,
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01:03:42.570 --> 01:03:44.590
that I would love to see. And we will highlight them.
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01:03:44.610 --> 01:03:47.570
But let's just start from the top. Blood incantation. Finally,
1269
01:03:47.630 --> 01:03:50.360
I think it's really cool that Arctangent are the festival
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01:03:50.380 --> 01:03:54.099
that have finally offered Blood Incantation the headline slot at
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01:03:54.380 --> 01:03:57.079
their festival. And considering that they have proven themselves to
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01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:01.210
be pretty much the most progressively minded heavy band working
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01:04:01.550 --> 01:04:03.650
right now, I think it's a perfect place for them
1274
01:04:03.690 --> 01:04:05.570
to do it. But then come on, the other headline
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01:04:05.610 --> 01:04:09.030
is fucking neurosis. We'd be waiting for someone to do it.
1276
01:04:09.630 --> 01:04:12.869
The fact that blood incantation is slightly an afterthought to
1277
01:04:12.909 --> 01:04:15.170
me because this year has been about one band and
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01:04:15.230 --> 01:04:17.650
one band only. And we were, at the moment we
1279
01:04:17.670 --> 01:04:20.530
kind of saw the inklings of them playing shows and
1280
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:23.239
they're in Europe and it's like, someone's got to do it.
1281
01:04:23.340 --> 01:04:26.320
Someone's got to get into the UK. Fucking arctangent did it.
1282
01:04:26.380 --> 01:04:30.659
Like this is of all the bands and stuff that
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01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.519
rumblings of playing shows and potential comebacks. This is one
1284
01:04:33.539 --> 01:04:36.619
of two that is now confirmed happening. Our tangent that
1285
01:04:37.099 --> 01:04:39.340
I am like desperate for. And I was like, The
1286
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.099
rest of the line-up, again, not to knock it, because
1287
01:04:42.739 --> 01:04:45.360
I am not a post-rock, math-rock, prog person, as long
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01:04:45.380 --> 01:04:47.900
as it's been established. The majority of the sign-up means
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01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:50.019
very little to me. I'm sure a lot of these
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01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:51.940
bands will be really cool, and I'm actually going to
1291
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.219
dive into some of the stuff to check out and
1292
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:57.510
find cool stuff. But it could be irrelevant, and I'd
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01:04:57.530 --> 01:05:00.730
be going, because they put fucking Neurosis, the band who
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01:05:00.769 --> 01:05:04.250
I just need to see more than anything right now.
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01:05:05.050 --> 01:05:07.849
That is unbeatable. And then when you put them side
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01:05:07.869 --> 01:05:10.840
by side with Blood Incantation, who, as we said last year,
1297
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:14.639
seeing the show, are one of the best. That album,
1298
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:18.380
seeing it live and all that, just unbelievable. And then,
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01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.900
you know, oh, Employee Discipline, Warmth of a Dying Son,
1300
01:05:20.940 --> 01:05:25.079
10th anniversary. Oh my fucking God, yes, please. Even A
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01:05:25.099 --> 01:05:27.840
Forest of Stars, for your bollocks bands that you subject
1302
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:30.380
me onto, I've kind of come round to that record
1303
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:35.409
as being one of the really interesting, cool ones that
1304
01:05:36.340 --> 01:05:38.199
really hits. Crash of Rhinos, like I say, they're kind
1305
01:05:38.219 --> 01:05:40.519
of like a mathy emo band. They're out from this
1306
01:05:40.539 --> 01:05:45.900
year's really good. It's got a real depth to this lineup. Conjurer, Messer,
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01:05:45.940 --> 01:05:48.909
like the depth and like strength and just sort of
1308
01:05:48.949 --> 01:05:50.889
vastness to what this covers. And again, the amount of
1309
01:05:50.909 --> 01:05:53.670
things it covers, it's just so impressive. And when two
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01:05:53.690 --> 01:05:57.989
of your four headliners are, again, blood incondition, neurosis, you
1311
01:05:58.070 --> 01:06:02.199
can't understate how much of a baller statement that is
1312
01:06:02.219 --> 01:06:04.059
for your first go to just be like, Yeah, here's
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01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.860
most of our line-up, and here is for people who
1314
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:10.869
are into post-metal and just, like, good music, one of
1315
01:06:10.929 --> 01:06:15.090
the most anticipated sets we could possibly book after what's
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01:06:15.110 --> 01:06:17.849
happened this year. Just bravo to everyone involved.
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01:06:18.269 --> 01:06:22.690
Yeah, because when Neurosis announced Roadbun recently, and we did
1318
01:06:22.730 --> 01:06:24.469
not know at the time if those were to be
1319
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:28.019
their European exclusives, right? That feasibly could have been their
1320
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:32.920
only European appearance next year. And I won't lie, it
1321
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:34.780
is still tempting that they've got Neurosis doing two sets.
1322
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:37.960
The absolute dream thing here would be if Art Tangent
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01:06:37.980 --> 01:06:39.500
announced the other two headliners and one of them is
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01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:45.389
also Neurosis. That would be the dream for me. But
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01:06:45.449 --> 01:06:49.269
particularly considering there's another festival, which is Winds of Agony,
1326
01:06:49.329 --> 01:06:51.190
which is the one in London that's got Masters Hammer playing,
1327
01:06:51.590 --> 01:06:53.090
which I really want to go to. I've realised that's
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01:06:53.130 --> 01:06:55.170
the same dates as Roadburn, so I was like, please,
1329
01:06:55.530 --> 01:06:58.489
someone in the UK... Get it. And the fact that
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01:06:58.510 --> 01:07:01.949
Art Tangent have is just the most phenomenal news. Elsewhere
1331
01:07:01.969 --> 01:07:03.420
on the lineup, I love Mesa. I'm going to see
1332
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.019
them on tour towards the end of this year, and
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01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:07.139
I would encourage everyone to do so because they're really
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01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:08.659
a brilliant band right now. But it's great to see
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01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:12.099
them on the Art Tangent lineup. Obviously, faithful, reliable Art Tangent,
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01:07:12.139 --> 01:07:14.449
great bands like Conjurer are on there. Really great. I
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01:07:14.449 --> 01:07:17.429
think that Voris Stars are on there. Even the Wild
1338
01:07:17.449 --> 01:07:19.030
Hearts prog set. I'm not a Wild Hearts fan.
1339
01:07:19.329 --> 01:07:22.230
I'm not a prog fan, but I kind of want
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01:07:22.250 --> 01:07:23.710
to see what the hell that's going to be.
1341
01:07:23.869 --> 01:07:26.250
Yeah. yeah i i don't like the wild hearts i
1342
01:07:26.269 --> 01:07:28.280
don't listen to them i don't really enjoy their music
1343
01:07:28.489 --> 01:07:31.280
like that band mean very little to me but i
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01:07:32.099 --> 01:07:33.860
think that's awesome they're doing that and it's kind of
1345
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:35.739
the wild heart set that i would be most interested
1346
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:38.780
in seeing just for the you know uniqueness of it
1347
01:07:39.139 --> 01:07:41.400
then you have employed to serve doing the warmth of
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01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:44.000
a dying sun which is far and away my favorite
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01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:45.659
album of theirs i mean i love what they've gone
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01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.150
on to do since but that is the album that
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01:07:48.190 --> 01:07:50.329
holds the strongest place in my heart.
1352
01:07:50.750 --> 01:07:53.670
I'm just thinking about the limbs when they overspend my
1353
01:07:53.710 --> 01:07:56.949
days again, when I just hear that BAM! I'm like,
1354
01:07:56.989 --> 01:07:58.190
limbs are flying everywhere.
1355
01:07:58.949 --> 01:08:00.829
I've pestered Sammy and Justine in the last couple of
1356
01:08:00.849 --> 01:08:03.489
years to be like, oh, any anniversary shows for those
1357
01:08:03.530 --> 01:08:06.239
coming up? And I can't have done that to then
1358
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:10.960
also miss this. And considering Art Tangent this year just gone,
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01:08:10.980 --> 01:08:14.119
I would have been there if it wasn't for the
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01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:16.199
worst scheduling luck that we had in the world. The
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01:08:16.300 --> 01:08:18.720
Art Tangent this year was incredible. If anything, obviously there's
1362
01:08:18.739 --> 01:08:20.270
still loads more to be announced for Art Tangent, but
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01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:23.220
the that this year had so many fantastic things. I
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01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:24.600
would love to have seen on it. It was just
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01:08:25.180 --> 01:08:26.960
really fucking bad luck on our parts that we weren't
1366
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:29.850
able to be there next year. I'm going to be there.
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01:08:30.250 --> 01:08:32.529
Like I can't be held back from this. I will
1368
01:08:32.670 --> 01:08:36.069
finally make my appearance on our tangent next year. I
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01:08:36.109 --> 01:08:38.289
can gather Sam that we're going to be going along
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01:08:38.310 --> 01:08:41.090
the same lines. So this is definitely, this is, you know,
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01:08:41.670 --> 01:08:43.949
one of the most anticipated things now going into next
1372
01:08:43.989 --> 01:08:45.949
year on top of all the great things that is here.
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01:08:46.090 --> 01:08:48.689
Fucking neurosis finally returning here. Can't miss it.
1374
01:08:48.890 --> 01:08:51.579
It, this is this is the I mean this is
1375
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:55.189
the first like genuinely unmissable UK festival lineup announced.
1376
01:08:55.250 --> 01:08:58.109
Yeah fair enough so that's the festival news this week
1377
01:08:58.130 --> 01:09:01.470
and finally two last smaller live announcements to end our
1378
01:09:01.789 --> 01:09:04.949
really large uh and elongated news uh lineup this time
1379
01:09:05.229 --> 01:09:09.220
dinosaur pileup i've got a uk tour in 2027 still
1380
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:11.600
you know on the cycle reporting uh um supporting their
1381
01:09:11.619 --> 01:09:14.520
latest album uh quite a good lengthy you know good
1382
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:17.140
10 or so dates uh in the uk uh going
1383
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:20.739
through march and april of next year and if you
1384
01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:23.430
are a London based Heavy Metal or Doom fan then
1385
01:09:23.449 --> 01:09:25.609
you might be interested that Castle Rat are doing what
1386
01:09:25.649 --> 01:09:29.289
is currently their one UK headline show next year live
1387
01:09:29.310 --> 01:09:33.710
in London at the Electric Ballroom on May the 27th
1388
01:09:33.869 --> 01:09:38.260
so exciting stuff let us move into the latter part
1389
01:09:38.739 --> 01:09:40.659
of this hyperblast where we go every week first of
1390
01:09:40.739 --> 01:09:42.979
all a little update on what we have been doing
1391
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.899
on the Patreon and it's been an important week for
1392
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.300
us in that regard because we started this last week
1393
01:09:48.739 --> 01:09:51.180
the first part of our previously announced but now very
1394
01:09:51.220 --> 01:09:55.000
much coming to fruition Rush Band Special, a band special
1395
01:09:55.020 --> 01:09:57.560
that is going to take us certainly over into the
1396
01:09:57.590 --> 01:10:01.430
beginning of 2027 to complete. But we started that journey
1397
01:10:01.489 --> 01:10:04.630
this week looking at the formation of the band and
1398
01:10:04.689 --> 01:10:09.250
their initial finding of their feet in the 1970s, which
1399
01:10:09.569 --> 01:10:12.390
starts with an album where we just laughed so much
1400
01:10:12.449 --> 01:10:15.510
about how many Robert Plant impressions that Geddy Lee managed
1401
01:10:15.550 --> 01:10:17.409
to do and how many times he goes, Oh yeah, mama!
1402
01:10:17.729 --> 01:10:19.779
And all of that stuff, still a lot of enjoyment
1403
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:21.579
to be had and a lot of enthusiasm on our
1404
01:10:21.619 --> 01:10:24.979
part for that record. But then through the era where
1405
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:27.109
they bring Neil Peart into the band for the first time,
1406
01:10:27.130 --> 01:10:30.170
I am so happy that we got a chance to
1407
01:10:30.210 --> 01:10:32.359
just talk about Caress of Steel to the extent that
1408
01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:35.649
we did because... my god what a what a strange
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01:10:35.729 --> 01:10:38.680
thing just the the laughter that that got out of
1410
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:40.840
me going why what are you doing here it was
1411
01:10:40.899 --> 01:10:44.439
unbelievable and then ending it on the mother of all
1412
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:47.800
chats on the album where they truly find their feet
1413
01:10:48.220 --> 01:10:53.960
the all-time classic legendary 2112 featuring its full side of
1414
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:57.130
vinyl length title track which is almost took a full
1415
01:10:57.149 --> 01:11:02.750
hour of us to actually decipher and uncover and go into.
1416
01:11:02.770 --> 01:11:07.550
And Sam, you've been, you're on board. You've been, even
1417
01:11:07.689 --> 01:11:09.229
after we finished recording this, you've been like, I've just
1418
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:12.060
been listening to nothing but Rush. I literally, the other
1419
01:11:12.100 --> 01:11:13.989
day I took, so I was like, I have a problem, guys.
1420
01:11:14.149 --> 01:11:16.250
I can't stop listening to Rush. I know the next
1421
01:11:16.270 --> 01:11:17.750
special's not even a month out and we've got other
1422
01:11:17.770 --> 01:11:19.789
stuff to listen to in between then. But I just
1423
01:11:19.810 --> 01:11:25.260
want to listen to Rush. It has happened. Through sheer
1424
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:27.020
force of just having to listen to them so much,
1425
01:11:27.140 --> 01:11:31.479
I've just become enamoured. And part of it is the
1426
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:34.520
story behind 2112. Yes.
1427
01:11:34.579 --> 01:11:37.329
And everything we kind of dug into there. And what
1428
01:11:37.350 --> 01:11:40.069
that represented made me just go like, ah... This is
1429
01:11:40.149 --> 01:11:42.539
what we do this for. This is what we, again,
1430
01:11:43.060 --> 01:11:46.199
what we champion, what we want to push. It was
1431
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:50.319
just such a great chat. Again, that must be the
1432
01:11:50.340 --> 01:11:52.899
longest we've ever spoken about one individual song. And I
1433
01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:54.720
know that song is one of the longest songs we've
1434
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.300
ever spoken about. But still, just going all in on
1435
01:11:58.340 --> 01:12:02.399
all the details and the creation of it. The story.
1436
01:12:02.460 --> 01:12:05.239
The themes. What individual parts of it. Did mean to us.
1437
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:07.340
It was just such.
1438
01:12:07.539 --> 01:12:07.680
Like.
1439
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:10.220
One of the most. Kind of just like. This is
1440
01:12:10.380 --> 01:12:13.609
all good vibes. Specials. I think we've done where. Like even.
1441
01:12:13.710 --> 01:12:13.970
Again.
1442
01:12:14.310 --> 01:12:17.210
On Caress of Steel. With that album. And the fucking
1443
01:12:17.270 --> 01:12:20.409
places it goes to. The vibes never dropped. Because we
1444
01:12:20.430 --> 01:12:23.869
were just kind of like. Finding. Things to enjoy. In
1445
01:12:23.930 --> 01:12:27.779
these weird. Like. Long form songs.
1446
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:28.319
With some of the like.
1447
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:31.640
The naffest voiceovers you've ever heard. but I'm glad they exist.
1448
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:34.020
Yeah, and I will say, when you were talking about
1449
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:39.039
the narrative, the story arc that takes form over this
1450
01:12:39.100 --> 01:12:41.800
first part of this special that then leads us to
1451
01:12:41.859 --> 01:12:44.180
the point where we finish talking about Caress of Steel
1452
01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:47.300
and then we go into 2112 and what that has
1453
01:12:47.390 --> 01:12:50.100
set up for this album to mean for them is
1454
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.210
where I would go, even if you're not a prog fan,
1455
01:12:52.289 --> 01:12:53.750
if you're not a prog fan, if you don't like Rush,
1456
01:12:53.770 --> 01:12:56.770
if you don't listen to anything that's 1970s keyboards and
1457
01:12:56.789 --> 01:12:58.350
capes and all that shit and you sneer at that,
1458
01:12:59.229 --> 01:13:02.159
I think just the story of this band at this
1459
01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:06.680
point in time and the level of fucking do or
1460
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:09.420
die that they have to go into an album like
1461
01:13:09.420 --> 01:13:13.550
2112 with is one of the great narratives that a
1462
01:13:13.569 --> 01:13:16.130
band has had and it's part of why I love
1463
01:13:16.149 --> 01:13:18.409
doing these band specials because we get to go into
1464
01:13:18.430 --> 01:13:20.310
a record that maybe everyone's heard of like 2112 but
1465
01:13:20.329 --> 01:13:22.899
we get to kind of reframe them by really diving
1466
01:13:22.939 --> 01:13:27.420
into the context of its creation and it was such
1467
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:29.090
a joy to do that, and we are going to
1468
01:13:29.100 --> 01:13:32.189
be continuing over the next several decades of Rush in
1469
01:13:32.350 --> 01:13:36.010
our ensuing parts, but if you are genuinely not at
1470
01:13:36.090 --> 01:13:39.010
all interested in Rush, we do have other things going
1471
01:13:39.029 --> 01:13:40.210
on as well, and the next thing we're going to
1472
01:13:40.250 --> 01:13:42.500
be doing is this coming week, we're doing an album
1473
01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:45.000
club pack, and particularly it is that time of year
1474
01:13:45.220 --> 01:13:48.460
where we are going to be doing our damnation festival
1475
01:13:48.699 --> 01:13:51.149
sort of preview album club pack that we have done
1476
01:13:51.210 --> 01:13:54.649
in the last handful of years and so the albums
1477
01:13:54.670 --> 01:13:57.250
that we have selected from the damnation bill this time
1478
01:13:57.390 --> 01:13:59.409
that we're going to talk about like I've said every
1479
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:01.020
time we do this doesn't really matter if you're going
1480
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:02.340
to damnation or not like if you're not going to
1481
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:04.020
damnation it's not just a preview of like what the
1482
01:14:04.060 --> 01:14:05.899
festival set must be like that these are album clubs
1483
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:07.319
like they're album clubs as you know and love them
1484
01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:09.439
We're just basing them around, you know, some band who
1485
01:14:09.470 --> 01:14:12.510
are playing Damnation Festival. And it means that for one
1486
01:14:12.710 --> 01:14:15.750
particular album club episode a year, we get to dive
1487
01:14:15.970 --> 01:14:18.329
really all in on the underground side of things and
1488
01:14:18.350 --> 01:14:20.829
get a really cool, interesting, diverse bunch of picks from
1489
01:14:20.869 --> 01:14:23.550
that world. So the album clubs that, in that spirit,
1490
01:14:23.689 --> 01:14:26.189
are going to be coming on this upcoming pack are
1491
01:14:26.529 --> 01:14:30.989
Cult of Luna's post-metal masterpiece, Somewhere Along the Highway, Walls
1492
01:14:31.029 --> 01:14:34.949
of Jericho, the American dream for the moshers out there
1493
01:14:35.470 --> 01:14:38.310
in this particular pack, Not just that for the Moshers,
1494
01:14:38.329 --> 01:14:42.310
because then we also have the 2010's Power Violence of
1495
01:14:42.390 --> 01:14:47.449
Weekend Nachos and their album Worthless, featuring the greatest musical
1496
01:14:47.489 --> 01:14:51.850
moment of Patrick Stump's entire career. And then finally, we
1497
01:14:51.890 --> 01:14:55.020
are going to be talking about the absolute craziness of
1498
01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.119
a band who reunited not long ago, who are going
1499
01:14:57.140 --> 01:15:00.739
to be returning for Damnation, The Berserker, and their utterly
1500
01:15:00.979 --> 01:15:04.739
nutso record, Dissimulate. So, get involved when you hear that,
1501
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:07.619
because that is in a... timely fashion, in conjunction with
1502
01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:10.920
the festival and everything, that is the album club episode
1503
01:15:10.939 --> 01:15:12.659
that does not go out straight to the Patreon. It
1504
01:15:12.699 --> 01:15:14.260
goes out on all of our feeds generally. So if
1505
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:16.119
you're not a regular album club listener, you'll be able
1506
01:15:16.140 --> 01:15:17.600
to listen to that one as well. And then if
1507
01:15:17.619 --> 01:15:18.779
you hear it and go, this is fun, I want
1508
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:20.880
to hear all of the backlog, then we've got loads
1509
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.029
over on the Patreon. So go and check those out. Finally,
1510
01:15:24.090 --> 01:15:29.569
let's end this hyperblasts the first week of October. Happy October, everybody.
1511
01:15:30.270 --> 01:15:32.260
It's not quite as chilly in the air just yet
1512
01:15:32.300 --> 01:15:33.600
as I would hope it to be, but maybe by
1513
01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:37.859
Halloween we'll have arrived there. Our first October release batch
1514
01:15:38.100 --> 01:15:41.520
this time, it starts with Amon Amarth, the Swedish melodic
1515
01:15:41.659 --> 01:15:44.539
death metal titans. Their newest album, I think it's their
1516
01:15:44.619 --> 01:15:49.289
13th album, The Allfather Awakens. Then we have the similarly
1517
01:15:49.350 --> 01:15:54.329
heavy Scottish titans, Twin Atlantic, back with Separation from the Animals. Sam,
1518
01:15:54.350 --> 01:15:57.149
you seemed to be slightly more fond of the last
1519
01:15:57.170 --> 01:15:59.619
Twin Atlantic record. Any interest in this one?
1520
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:02.770
I didn't even know this was happening i'm a terrible
1521
01:16:02.810 --> 01:16:07.649
fan like it's kind of been off my radar because
1522
01:16:07.670 --> 01:16:10.189
maybe again where i've been living this year i just
1523
01:16:10.329 --> 01:16:13.550
not paid any attention to to that kind of brit
1524
01:16:13.590 --> 01:16:15.630
rock ilk i'll give this a listen and see if
1525
01:16:15.689 --> 01:16:17.060
it like again i thought the last time was a
1526
01:16:17.069 --> 01:16:19.319
step up from them i'll see where this one goes
1527
01:16:19.659 --> 01:16:20.319
but yes.
1528
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:23.220
I didn't know what's happening like the uh the very
1529
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.069
modern polished metalcore contingent I say modern, some of them
1530
01:16:26.109 --> 01:16:28.279
are older names, but, you know, that brand of metalcore
1531
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:30.460
got a whole run of releases today, because first of all,
1532
01:16:30.500 --> 01:16:33.720
we've got Imminence, who are one of the more popular,
1533
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:37.170
you know, rising up the ranks, you know, current standard
1534
01:16:37.189 --> 01:16:40.409
bearers of that sort of, you know, modern, Polish, trendy metalcore. Imminence,
1535
01:16:40.449 --> 01:16:43.670
their album Axis Monday is out, and then, some more
1536
01:16:43.689 --> 01:16:46.609
blasts from the past, Escape the Fate. back with The
1537
01:16:46.649 --> 01:16:49.550
Last Goodbye, and Miss May I are also back with
1538
01:16:49.770 --> 01:16:52.170
No Place For Me. We move into a kind of
1539
01:16:52.250 --> 01:16:55.529
newer wave deathcore band called To The Grave. Their album's
1540
01:16:55.550 --> 01:16:59.210
called Liberation Front, because this is like very militantly vegan
1541
01:16:59.850 --> 01:17:03.090
new wave deathcore, lots of themes of animal liberation and
1542
01:17:03.109 --> 01:17:05.869
stuff like that. But as we move into the hardcore world,
1543
01:17:05.890 --> 01:17:09.189
the full-blown hardcore world, probably the most anticipated release of
1544
01:17:09.210 --> 01:17:11.229
the week for many people out there is the new
1545
01:17:11.329 --> 01:17:15.680
Haywire album. Haywire, 617, as their name officially is, I
1546
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.439
don't want to say goodbye. Massive breakthrough for Haywire in
1547
01:17:19.460 --> 01:17:21.479
the past couple of years. This is an album with
1548
01:17:21.729 --> 01:17:23.350
a lot of eyes on it now at this point,
1549
01:17:23.369 --> 01:17:25.350
so I'm sure that as this goes out today, lots
1550
01:17:25.390 --> 01:17:26.770
of you will be listening to and giving us your
1551
01:17:26.789 --> 01:17:29.409
thoughts on that Haywire record. And then also in the
1552
01:17:29.449 --> 01:17:32.430
hardcore realm, there was a band called Cyanide, which is
1553
01:17:32.470 --> 01:17:34.750
like cyanide, but with the D in the end, the
1554
01:17:34.789 --> 01:17:37.479
other way around, it is Cyanide. Violets in Measure this
1555
01:17:37.539 --> 01:17:41.270
is a band released on the Hardlaw record label and
1556
01:17:41.289 --> 01:17:43.409
put out like a 20 minute record this week of
1557
01:17:43.449 --> 01:17:46.289
like you know moshy crossover-y type hardcore so go and
1558
01:17:46.310 --> 01:17:49.529
fill your boots. Then we've moved really far away from
1559
01:17:49.550 --> 01:17:53.010
that into like really throwback, retro, you know, psych kind
1560
01:17:53.029 --> 01:17:56.300
of stuff. There's Bobby Dazzle, which is very much a 60s,
1561
01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:57.800
70s type name, isn't it? But that's the kind of
1562
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:01.380
realm we're going for. Bobby Dazzle with Star Power, staying
1563
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:04.899
in more old, old school terrain. There is the very
1564
01:18:04.979 --> 01:18:09.630
prolific trad metal band Haunt with their latest album, which
1565
01:18:09.689 --> 01:18:13.189
is called Setting Course. And then there is the band Assombelle,
1566
01:18:13.510 --> 01:18:16.109
with Set Your World on Fire, which this is basically
1567
01:18:16.510 --> 01:18:20.329
airborne for Motorhead. Like, if you think exactly what airborne
1568
01:18:20.550 --> 01:18:24.500
are for ACDC, and maybe new at airborne rather than,
1569
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:26.619
you know, running wild here at airborne, but if you're
1570
01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:30.380
a band doing cosplay of that band, Assumvel are that
1571
01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:32.380
for Motorhead, essentially. So go and fill your boots if
1572
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:34.060
that's what you want. Then we're going to move into
1573
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:38.439
more underground, more modern metal. We have Hippotractor, the progressive
1574
01:18:38.470 --> 01:18:41.470
sort of post-metally band. They're on the Damnation Bill this year. Annihilist,
1575
01:18:41.470 --> 01:18:44.770
their new album's out today. Then we have techie, you
1576
01:18:44.789 --> 01:18:48.250
know spacey cosmic thrash think voivode and those kind of
1577
01:18:48.270 --> 01:18:52.989
things uh there is dissimulator with artifice dissolves a slice
1578
01:18:53.029 --> 01:18:57.640
of evil underground chilean death metal uh there's deconsecrated with
1579
01:18:57.699 --> 01:19:00.619
a k on on the crated uh with the inexorable
1580
01:19:00.899 --> 01:19:05.119
inexorable transcendent of death Into black metal there is the
1581
01:19:05.260 --> 01:19:07.300
really cool Really unique one of the more unique black
1582
01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:09.720
metal bands Around right now sort of first wave style
1583
01:19:09.739 --> 01:19:12.399
But with crazy like finger picked guitars and stuff Band
1584
01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:16.640
Spirit Possession With their new album Cathedral Speech There is
1585
01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:21.500
Zastha The one man black metal band With the new
1586
01:19:21.699 --> 01:19:25.039
album Open to Misinterpretation Will this be a black metal
1587
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:27.880
record Or will this be a banjo bluegrass record I
1588
01:19:27.939 --> 01:19:30.800
genuinely don't know But that is the gamble that you
1589
01:19:30.819 --> 01:19:34.170
take with Zaster could be either. And then a handful
1590
01:19:34.390 --> 01:19:37.170
of a couple of EPs. As we move on from there,
1591
01:19:37.189 --> 01:19:39.979
we've got from first to last back. It's more, you know,
1592
01:19:40.659 --> 01:19:43.220
Naughty's post-hardcore returns from First to Last Have got We
1593
01:19:43.260 --> 01:19:46.939
Were Bleeding Anyway The Northern Irish sort of Death Doom
1594
01:19:46.979 --> 01:19:50.359
band The Crawling Have got What We Leave Behind And
1595
01:19:50.380 --> 01:19:53.800
then there is a live album from Swans Called Newly
1596
01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:57.000
Scented Being Which supposedly captures the final shows Of what
1597
01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:00.659
they have generally termed their Big sound, big band era
1598
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:03.340
Before putting that era to a close And doing something
1599
01:20:03.380 --> 01:20:06.300
else So if you really want the last stop on
1600
01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:08.000
that This is that live album and true to Swans
1601
01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:10.890
form Barely contains any material that I've actually released and
1602
01:20:10.930 --> 01:20:13.850
recorded It's all just new shit Because that's how that
1603
01:20:13.869 --> 01:20:19.819
band Operate somehow But And it's very very fucking long
1604
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:22.060
as well Well that's the swan's way everybody So go
1605
01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:25.119
and fill your boots Thank you everyone for joining us
1606
01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:31.100
on this Hyper Blast Roundup Are you excited for The
1607
01:20:31.310 --> 01:20:35.350
Arctangent Announcement Are you excited for the Slam Dunk Announcement
1608
01:20:35.619 --> 01:20:37.460
Let us know what your thoughts are. Let us know
1609
01:20:37.500 --> 01:20:40.899
what you think about the surprise, bizarre way that Repugnant
1610
01:20:41.380 --> 01:20:46.340
are returning. The fucking incredible news about Dysfear's final album
1611
01:20:46.380 --> 01:20:50.710
with that great Dysfear lineup coming out soon. And, of course,
1612
01:20:50.750 --> 01:20:55.130
the Enter Shikari hiatus and the enormous epochal loss, I
1613
01:20:55.170 --> 01:20:57.930
do think, of Kronos from Venom. That's all the stuff
1614
01:20:57.970 --> 01:21:00.470
we've had to talk about today. Thank you for listening
1615
01:21:00.529 --> 01:21:03.659
to us and we will join you next time Lay
1616
01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:06.210
down your souls to the gods rock and roll for
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01:21:06.250 --> 01:21:06.699
black metal.