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On this episode, Max and Geoffrey go deep on plugin-based software. Where are plugins succeeding in the new world of AI coding? What are the enduring challenges?
00:00:00 – Catching up on Muse and Grok Bot00:05:07 – Plugin systems and malleable software00:06:06 – BB, a plugin-based IDE00:11:41 – Malleable software: good defaults with a smooth slope of customization00:17:40 – Plugin bundles, VSCode00:21:32 – Why browser extensions are difficult00:25:55 – Security and permissions00:29:43 – Open source vs. stable plugin SDKs00:41:58 – Local "handymen" and barefoot developers00:47:09 – Notion's developer platform
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