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Imagine uh telling your boss you need to lay off 45 people, but then in the exact same breath you ask for a raise for everyone else.
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Right.
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I mean it sounds totally crazy.
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It really does.
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But um that is exactly what is happening right now at Kent State University.
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We are looking at why a major public university is slashing jobs and you know, what this reveals about the shifting landscape of higher ed that could directly impact you.
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Aaron Powell Yeah.
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So Kent State is really staring down the barrel of its fiscal year 2027 budget right now.
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Management just handed down this massive mandate to all the vice presidents, basically saying, hey, find a way to trim five to ten percent from your departments like immediately.
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Aaron Powell And the immediate casualty there is up to 45 potential job cuts in the coming weeks.
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But um here is the contradiction that just stopped me in my tracks when looking at this.
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They are planning these layoffs, but simultaneously handing out a 2% raise to non-union employees.
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I mean, how does that math work?
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Aaron Powell I know it sounds completely backwards, right?
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Handing out raises during a severe budget crisis, but it is actually a defensive maneuver.
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Higher education is, well, it's bleeding specialized talent right now.
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Oh, so people are just leaving the industry.
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Exactly.
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If they do not give that 2% bump, their key staff walk, and replacing them in this highly volatile market would cost them triple.
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It is basically spending pennies to save dollars.
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Aaron Powell Okay, I get that.
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But if it is cheaper to give raises than to hire new people, that kind of implies their base operating costs are just fundamentally broken.
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What is actually driving them into the red like this?
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Aaron Powell Well, the overhead is skyrocketing, but the customer base is literally shrinking.
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It is driven by this perfect storm of demographics and policy.
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Aaron Powell Right.
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It feels like trying to run a massive shopping mall built for 1990s foot traffic, right?
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Uh-huh.
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But your actual shoppers have moved online and your electric bill just tripled.
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You cannot just turn off the lights in half the mall without ruining the experience for everyone.
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Aaron Powell And if you think back to the 2008 financial crash, people uh people stopped having kids during that recession.
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Aaron Powell Oh, wow, right.
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The Great Recession.
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Yeah.
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Fast forward 18 years, and we are hitting what economists actually call the demographic cliff.
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There are just simply fewer 18-year-olds entering college today.
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Add to that a drop in international students directly tied to recent federal visa changes.
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Aaron Powell So colleges across the Midwest are suddenly fighting over a much smaller pool of students then.
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Aaron Ross Powell Exactly.
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And if you are listening to this and wondering why your tuition keeps going up while the university is making cuts, well, inflation is the final piece of the puzzle here.
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The university president, Todd Diacon, pointed out that state support has not kept up with rising operational costs.
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Aaron Powell Let me guess, it has actually gone down in real dollars.
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Aaron Powell Big time.
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When you adjust for inflation, state funding for Ohio public universities is roughly 27% lower today than it was in 2005.
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Wait, 27%?
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That is huge.
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It is massive.
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And Kent State isn't alone in this.
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We are seeing identical panic and cost cutting at Penn State, Maryland, Clemson, East Carolina.
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I mean, it is a national crisis.
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Aaron Powell, Jr.
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But how do you even survive that?
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Kent State isn't just taking a lawnmower to the budget and cutting everything evenly, right?
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They are protecting certain things.
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Aaron Powell Yes, they are doubling down on what actually works.
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Departments that show strong enrollment growth, like uh the College of Aeronautics and Engineering in their fashion program, those are being protected.
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Aaron Powell Aeronautics, really.
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Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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Yeah.
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Diacon actually credited the aeronautics program as a primary reason they aren't in worse financial shape compared to their peers.
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Aaron Ross Powell Okay, but if the strategy is ruthless efficiency and protecting high-growth areas, what about all the regional campuses?
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Maintaining multiple physical locations in places like Salem and Tuscarawas, that requires massive overhead.
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Aaron Ross Powell It really does.
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Aaron Ross Powell So from a pure business standpoint, why not just close those down if you are$18 million in the whole?
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Aaron Ross Powell Well, that exact question is sparking a huge political debate right now.
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You had Vivek Ramaswamy recently arguing that universities need to slash administrative overhead and consolidate these operations.
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Aaron Powell Basically run it like a lean corporation.
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Aaron Powell Exactly.
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But President Daikon pushed back on that.
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He didn't name Ramaswamy directly, but he publicly defended those regional campuses.
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Aaron Powell Interesting.
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What was his argument?
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His argument is that these aren't just satellite offices, they are vital lifelines.
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They provide regional access to education for smaller Ohio communities that drives the local economy.
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Aaron Powell Oh, I see.
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So if you shut them down, you aren't just saving money.
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You are effectively cutting off economic mobility for entire regions.
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Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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Right.
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The Board of Trustees still has to approve the final budget, and in the coming weeks, those forty-five people will find out who is actually losing their jobs.
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Aaron Powell This$18 million shortfall isn't just an administrative headache, you know?
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It matters because it directly dictates the future of tuition rates, the academic offerings available to you, and the health of the local economies that rely on these universities to survive.
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It is a massive ripple effect.
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Aaron Powell Which leaves us with a pretty massive question to think about.
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As demographic shifts accelerate, the student pool shrinks, and state funding remains effectively flat, will the traditional model of a sprawling, accessible public university system survive the decade?
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Or are we watching the end of an era?
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Imagine uh telling your boss you need to lay off 45 people, but then in the exact same breath you ask for a raise for everyone else.
00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:07.839
Right.
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I mean it sounds totally crazy.
00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:10.560
It really does.
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But um that is exactly what is happening right now at Kent State University.
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We are looking at why a major public university is slashing jobs and you know, what this reveals about the shifting landscape of higher ed that could directly impact you.
00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:24.640
Aaron Powell Yeah.
00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:29.199
So Kent State is really staring down the barrel of its fiscal year 2027 budget right now.
00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:38.479
Management just handed down this massive mandate to all the vice presidents, basically saying, hey, find a way to trim five to ten percent from your departments like immediately.
00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:42.880
Aaron Powell And the immediate casualty there is up to 45 potential job cuts in the coming weeks.
00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:47.679
But um here is the contradiction that just stopped me in my tracks when looking at this.
00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:54.320
They are planning these layoffs, but simultaneously handing out a 2% raise to non-union employees.
00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:56.079
I mean, how does that math work?
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Aaron Powell I know it sounds completely backwards, right?
00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:04.239
Handing out raises during a severe budget crisis, but it is actually a defensive maneuver.
00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:07.840
Higher education is, well, it's bleeding specialized talent right now.
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Oh, so people are just leaving the industry.
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Exactly.
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If they do not give that 2% bump, their key staff walk, and replacing them in this highly volatile market would cost them triple.
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It is basically spending pennies to save dollars.
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Aaron Powell Okay, I get that.
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But if it is cheaper to give raises than to hire new people, that kind of implies their base operating costs are just fundamentally broken.
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What is actually driving them into the red like this?
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Aaron Powell Well, the overhead is skyrocketing, but the customer base is literally shrinking.
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It is driven by this perfect storm of demographics and policy.
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Aaron Powell Right.
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It feels like trying to run a massive shopping mall built for 1990s foot traffic, right?
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Uh-huh.
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But your actual shoppers have moved online and your electric bill just tripled.
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You cannot just turn off the lights in half the mall without ruining the experience for everyone.
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Aaron Powell And if you think back to the 2008 financial crash, people uh people stopped having kids during that recession.
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Aaron Powell Oh, wow, right.
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The Great Recession.
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Yeah.
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Fast forward 18 years, and we are hitting what economists actually call the demographic cliff.
00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:13.919
There are just simply fewer 18-year-olds entering college today.
00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:19.439
Add to that a drop in international students directly tied to recent federal visa changes.
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Aaron Powell So colleges across the Midwest are suddenly fighting over a much smaller pool of students then.
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Aaron Ross Powell Exactly.
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And if you are listening to this and wondering why your tuition keeps going up while the university is making cuts, well, inflation is the final piece of the puzzle here.
00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:38.879
The university president, Todd Diacon, pointed out that state support has not kept up with rising operational costs.
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Aaron Powell Let me guess, it has actually gone down in real dollars.
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Aaron Powell Big time.
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When you adjust for inflation, state funding for Ohio public universities is roughly 27% lower today than it was in 2005.
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Wait, 27%?
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That is huge.
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It is massive.
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And Kent State isn't alone in this.
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We are seeing identical panic and cost cutting at Penn State, Maryland, Clemson, East Carolina.
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I mean, it is a national crisis.
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Aaron Powell, Jr.
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But how do you even survive that?
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Kent State isn't just taking a lawnmower to the budget and cutting everything evenly, right?
00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:10.319
They are protecting certain things.
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Aaron Powell Yes, they are doubling down on what actually works.
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Departments that show strong enrollment growth, like uh the College of Aeronautics and Engineering in their fashion program, those are being protected.
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Aaron Powell Aeronautics, really.
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Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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Yeah.
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Diacon actually credited the aeronautics program as a primary reason they aren't in worse financial shape compared to their peers.
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Aaron Ross Powell Okay, but if the strategy is ruthless efficiency and protecting high-growth areas, what about all the regional campuses?
00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:43.759
Maintaining multiple physical locations in places like Salem and Tuscarawas, that requires massive overhead.
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Aaron Ross Powell It really does.
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Aaron Ross Powell So from a pure business standpoint, why not just close those down if you are$18 million in the whole?
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Aaron Ross Powell Well, that exact question is sparking a huge political debate right now.
00:03:54.479 --> 00:04:02.319
You had Vivek Ramaswamy recently arguing that universities need to slash administrative overhead and consolidate these operations.
00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:04.479
Aaron Powell Basically run it like a lean corporation.
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Aaron Powell Exactly.
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But President Daikon pushed back on that.
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He didn't name Ramaswamy directly, but he publicly defended those regional campuses.
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Aaron Powell Interesting.
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What was his argument?
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His argument is that these aren't just satellite offices, they are vital lifelines.
00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:25.199
They provide regional access to education for smaller Ohio communities that drives the local economy.
00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:25.920
Aaron Powell Oh, I see.
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So if you shut them down, you aren't just saving money.
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You are effectively cutting off economic mobility for entire regions.
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Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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Right.
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The Board of Trustees still has to approve the final budget, and in the coming weeks, those forty-five people will find out who is actually losing their jobs.
00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:45.199
Aaron Powell This$18 million shortfall isn't just an administrative headache, you know?
00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:55.759
It matters because it directly dictates the future of tuition rates, the academic offerings available to you, and the health of the local economies that rely on these universities to survive.
00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:57.839
It is a massive ripple effect.
00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.480
Aaron Powell Which leaves us with a pretty massive question to think about.
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As demographic shifts accelerate, the student pool shrinks, and state funding remains effectively flat, will the traditional model of a sprawling, accessible public university system survive the decade?
00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:14.079
Or are we watching the end of an era?