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Three two one, Hey buzzheads.
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Jug.
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Hey everybody, Welcome to the Curtis Tucker Retro Buzz and
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Adventures Podcast, otherwise known as the Retro Buzz Podcast.
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Hey, got a quick question.
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For you guys, what do you think about the intro?
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It's the old intro from Buzzhead Radio without the words Buzzhead.
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Radio. It just has Buzzhead So let me know.
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Somebody had mentioned that they liked it. But with all
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this new technology and stuff, I could write a new
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one that's more retro buzzy.
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Or if you guys like that one, we'll stick with it.
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But I need just a few of you guys to
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vote and let me know. And guess what, you guys
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now have.
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A way of voting and getting a hold of me
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so much easier.
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We have an.
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Official buzz Head hotline.
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It is up and running, and my only drawback is
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it's kind of recording the messages from me is kind
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of wonky and they don't sound very good. So I've
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tried several with some recordings of Todd and I and
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they just are not working out. And then even me
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just speaking sounds ten million times better. But even a
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little bit wonky on that so I'm going to continue
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to work on my voice mail message do you guys,
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But you guys, your messages sound great coming back the
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other way.
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So anyway, the number. Here you go.
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You guys, got your pen get your number two pencils out, everybody,
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number two pencils, clean off your desk.
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Back straight here we go.
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Six zero one, five six eight twenty two twenty, Yes,
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twenty two twenty.
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You guys see what I did there?
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Six oh one five six eight twenty two twenty is
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the new Buzzhead hotline.
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Somebody use it.
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Richard Quavis as the first one that recognized it. They're
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on Facebook and used it. I appreciate you, Richard. And
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so you guys can leave five minute messages from what
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it says, and if you need to go longer, just
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call back and leave another one.
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So I've got that up and running, okay.
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And then I think I had talked about the Kurtis
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Tucker podcast. It is actually not going away. I was
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able to move all of my podcasts to Spreaker. This
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probably isn't gonna mean a whole lot to anybody, but
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I thought if I had to move every podcast episode
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one at a time from buzz sprout to Spreaker, I
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just wasn't gonna do it, and we're gonna lose all
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those old Kurtis Tucker episodes, Well we're not it. With
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a click of a button, it moved them all over
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automatically for me. So the eighties Buzz will stay on.
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You guys can listen to those old episodes. The Curtis
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Tucker podcast will stay on. You can listen to those
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old podcast episodes. I'm gonna leave the Buzzhead Radio podcast
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episodes further down on this podcast, but you know, the
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newer episodes will start filling in. But if you want
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to go and be nostalgic and here's some old Todd conversations,
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I'm gonna leave those up. And so again, this Buzz
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Retro Buzz podcast is a mixture of Buzz Radio and
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the Curtis Tucker Podcast. And then I've also got my
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Oki Buzz podcast going again, which is going to be
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a little bit of Kurtis Tucker podcast rolled into it
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as well. So I'm down to three podcasts which I
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think I can keep these going and really really ramp
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them up.
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Seventies Buzz Retro.
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Buzz and Oki Buzz and then all of my social
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media is going to run through Kurtis Tucker, either the
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Curtis Tucker Facebook page, Curtis Tucker dot Com, Kurtis Tucker
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YouTube channel. That way, I don't have to have social
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media for every podcast and on every platform, because just
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keeping up with Kurtis Tucker and.
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Ended Buzz alone is blood. It's enormous, but having to
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do even more so. The Seventies Buzz Facebook page is
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not going to be updated.
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Todd had set that up up and forgot to put
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me down as an administrator, so I can't get in
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and do a whole lot of stuff. But the Seventies
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Buzzfacebook group is going to continue on just like normal,
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So there's an update there. And then Philip Carey and
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Gretchen both wondered about what happened to the August eleventh
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episode and the trailer, So here's what happened. So on
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August eleventh, I recorded the trailer for Retro Buzz podcast.
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After I got done recording it, it dawned on me
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that Christopher Todd and I had really already done to
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Retro Buzz episodes, the one with movie soundtracks and the
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other one which I can't think of what our subject was.
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But anyway, they both had subjects, which makes them a
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little different than the old rambling Buzzhead radio. So what
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I thought was, well, those two should be the first
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two official Retrobuss podcasts. So what I did was I
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changed the date on the trailer to be a date
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before those two podcasts, which meant the August eleventh episode
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disappeared and the trailer disappeared, But they didn't really disappear.
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It just got moved down three episodes. So if you
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go to your device, just go three episodes down and
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that third oldest now after this one will be the
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fourth oldest, will be the trailer, and there won't be
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an August eleventh episode date wise, but just know that
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the August eleventh episode was that trailer. I didn't think
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about that when I moved it, but I did move it,
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so that's where that problem came in. Hopefully I didn't
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confuse everybody, but I think, let me think is that my.
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I think that's all the updates for right now.
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Lots of updates on seventies buzz if you're not listening
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to that podcast. Got a lot of people lined up
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for different podcasts, so appreciate you guys, and we probably
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should give.
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Mister Christopher Todd or Ring a dinghy. See what he's
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up to. Curtis Tucker, what's going on?
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C t D?
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What are you up to?
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Oh? It's just getting back from getting some break work
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done in my car. Just h Yeah, just just got back.
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Okay.
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So you I thought you. You messaged and said your
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new vehicle?
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Is it?
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So did you get a new vehicle?
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Yeah?
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What did you get?
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A moss to c X five first first time in
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thirty Yeah, first time in thirty years. I haven't owned
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a Ford?
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Wow, dude?
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Really?
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So what what? What caused the big change?
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Oh? It was just time. It was just time. I
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had a I don't know if I if I told you,
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but a few years ago I just bought a car
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and I think two thousand, bought a car from my boss.
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Got a great deal on it. It's in really good shape.
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And then like a year later, I got rear ended
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and just I mean it it. I got hit by
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a Ford F five fifty pickup was like a flat
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bag bid and I was at a complete stop. Oh,
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I was waiting to turn into the shop where I worked,
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and I just sitting there and all of a sudden,
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i'd looked behind me when I slowed down and stopped there,
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I couldn't see anything behind me. The next thing I know,
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I'm waiting for all this traffic to go by, you know,
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on the other lane, so I can turn my left turn.
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Sorry.
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And finally I just happened to look up in my
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rearview mirror and all I saw was a backwards Ford emblem.
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in the back seat. Oh man, it hit me so
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hard it snapped the seat back and threw me in
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the back seat.
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Wow.
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And I went, I want a good I don't know, man,
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a good one hundred and fifty two hundred feet straight ahead.
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Luckily it didn't veer off into the oncoming traffic or
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into the ditch that was on the right. It just
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kept going straight. And I was in the back seat. Wow.
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And I get out and the guy goes worse thing
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you could possibly say, Oh man, I'm so sorry. I
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wasn't even looking. I was looking at my phone.
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You gotta be kidding.
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I don't know, dying, I don't know, but it's been well.
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I think that happened in yeah, twenty two December nineteenth,
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twenty two, and I just texted my lawyer yesterday. I
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was like, what's going on with this case? Man, Oh, well,
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we'll get back to you. Yeah. So it's still is
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it's still going on. Wow, it's still going on. When
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that was, I was waiting until I got that settlement
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to go buy a new car, because it's been my plan.
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Because I ended up. Even though the insurance company totaled
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my car, I was like, I could still drive this thing.
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I drove it for ten days before you even came
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and looked at it. Wow, you know, and you're telling
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me now that it's total that I ended up. I
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was like, I just I just bought the car back
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from him, took a lower payback, you know, because I
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bought my car, which was nice because it was four
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grand more than I paid for it to begin with.
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And so I just took less of a payout for
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my car, which still ended up more than what I
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paid for it, and kept driving the car. And it's
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just that it's so loud. It was just because I mean,
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it tweaked the back end of it. Luckily, you know,
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when cars are all the outsides plastic now, so I
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mean it bent the back frame so bad it still
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ran straight, no problems. And then the frame was spent
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so bad in the back, but the plastic popped out,
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so you couldn't tell, oh wow, it wasn't so it
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wasn't like I. It wasn't like I was driving around
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in this car that was all but the back hatch.
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You know, it had about a half an inch gap
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because it wouldn't shut all the way. It would lock,
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but it wouldn't shut all the way because it was
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all bent. Because because of that, the road noise was
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just you know, this car, this car is so quiet.
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I love it. You shut the doors, rore at the
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windows like you don't hear the road at all. It's
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I love it. I love it. It's it's and it's
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I got to keep my foot out of it. Man.
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It's like, damn this thing. I look down and go
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slow down because I don't know if you have it
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down there or not. But they're putting up these things
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now all over here, these little black squares, and it's
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they're keeping an eye on they're putting they're keep an
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eye on you everywhere you go. And event and eventually
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what that's going to be is tickets being issued because
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I'm also seeing around where they have those signs, I'm
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also seeing the speed the little trailers they sit there
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with show you your speed, huh, And that's to let
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you know you're going too fast. You got to used
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to go on the speed limit. Yeah, because eventually we're
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going to be I mean, I could drive from here
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to work, which is forty five minutes, and get a
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ticket five times.
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Yeah in the mail.
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It's yeah, it's coming, it's coming.
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So well they do that now.
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And I know in California if you run a red
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light and the camera gets you in the intersection.
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My brother in law, this was like.
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Fifteen years ago, even was in California and ran a
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red light and got.
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A ticket in the mail.
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In Oklahoma, they yeah, they just snapped it and said, yeah,
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pay it.
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And it's it's funny too because every time I remember
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I got one, well, I go it says I did
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a California stuff. There's no way, And then you can
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go and look at the video and like, well I
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guess I did. Yeah.
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But then I got a speeding ticket in a school
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zone for going five miles over the speed limit. But
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it was a Sunday and there was no school.
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Oh wow, and.
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They still wouldn't let me out of the ticket.
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That doesn't sound right. In Oklahoma, it's got to be
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within the school hours.
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To get it to and usually that's what it is.
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But this particular place, I don't. If I go through
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there now, I just go really slow because yeah, obviously
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they don't. Yeah, they told me. I you know, I
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submitted a complaint, said, hey, there was no school. I
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was going five miles over the speed limit. For over
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the school zone speed limit. I'm going to normal you
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know speed limit. Like nope, no, it doesn't matter. It's
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still school zone. Yeah when school is in session. But
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uh yeah, whatever, it is what it is.
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Yeah, well let's hop let's hop into a retro subject.
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Tell us about the Cheap Trick zz Top concert you
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just went to.
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Oh you know, my I wasn't going to go, you know,
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I didn't. I didn't plan on going. But my buddy
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who I had met. His name is John King. I've
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known John for thirty years just from running into him
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at cheap trick shows.
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That's so crazy because we go to.
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So many cheap trick shows. And he sent me a
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message and said, hey, I got a free front row
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ticket if you wanted. I was like, yeah, okay, I'll go,
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you know. And and it was really nice hanging out
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with John and Aosh. I found out the reason he
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had a ticket was because he's there was a plant
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explosion down south to here a few years ago or
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not sorry, a few months ago. He lost two sons
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in that two sons, and I was just like, oh, John, wow,
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And so it was I think it was nice for
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him and you know, just get out and watch the show.
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And yeah, yeah, I just felt for him so bad.
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Dang, I can't even imagine.
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Holy I know, two of them within like thirty seconds
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of each other. You know, they want different explosions from
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that plant. And but we were right up front, right
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against the barrier. And I gotta be honest, you know,
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I'm a huge Cheap Trick fan, but but it's been
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a long time since I've been to a Cheap Trick
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show and walked away thinking they were great. You know what,
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really yeah, because because for decades that's all I got
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from Cheap Trick was great. But you know they're older.
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Rick Rick moves around really really slow now, yes, and
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and and it looks like it hurts for him to
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move around even. Yeah, and and that's hard to watch,
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you know, And I mean, I mean it's hard to
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watch because that's my guy, man, I know, you know,
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that's that's that's one of the reasons I play guitar.
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It's reasons I write songs, is one. And it's hard
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to watch him in the I don't know if he's
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got arthritis or he just doesn't care anymore because he's
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in pain. He just usually doesn't play very well anymore either.
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And Robin, Robin's getting older and his voice is not
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what it used to be. And I don't know what
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it is when the set when the show is over,
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I looked at John and I go, is it because
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I'm in the front row? Because that was the best
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cheap Tricks show I've seen in ten years. Yeah, he goes,
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maybe it's a set list. I go, no, No, it's
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not that I've heard them play these songs before. It's
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I think it's just because it's in the front row,
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you know, where the energy is just a lot higher.
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And yeah, and it was just.
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I like, I like the fact that it was outside
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because when I saw him it was in a casino,
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which actually kind of sucks to watch a rock band
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in a small casino.
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I would say probably if it's not neck and neck.
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I've probably seen more outdoor shows than indoor shows with
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Cheap Trick. Yeah, you know, because for years they've been
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on the fair circuit. So I've seen them so many
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times at county fairs and just in outdoor parks, and
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so I would say, you know, if it's not neck
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and neck. That was my forty eighth show, Wow, which
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is Hey, that's that's nothing. You know, John, my buddy
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was I was with that's cute. Todd. This is my
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one hundred and first and we were there that's crazy.
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And even then we're like, we got all this Cheap
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Trick network on Facebook. And these two girls from Pennsylvania
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they were here a couple of years ago. I went
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and had breakfast with him and and I walked around
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the corner. It's like, what are you doing here? You
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live in Pennsylvania, And they're like, Eh, we're just traveling
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around the country for the summer. Following Cheap Trick and
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Wows Crick and Foreigner and some other bands. I was
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cool to see them. I got to see a bunch
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of old friends and and then Yeah, you gotta remember, man,
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this was only zz Top's first show after canceling one
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when Frank couldn't make it.
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Yeah, and then the bad news today.
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And something told me Frank's not coming back. Yeah, just
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because I remember that same thing with Dusty. It was
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like he was there and then they said serious health
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problem and then he was gone, and I had a
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feeling like Frank's not coming back, and I'm glad that. Yeah.
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A few years ago, I saw the same show at
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a different park with Cheap Trick opening for Frizzy Easy Top,
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and that was the original was Eazy Top. Yeah, I
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was Frank and Dusty. But I'll tell you what I
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did notice about that first show versus the one the
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other night. And this is no disrespect to to Dusty
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or Frank, but when I saw them a few years ago,
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I think it might have been twenty three, twenty two,
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it was clear that a large percentage of that show
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was tracked. Yeah, there was. Frank was playing straight beats
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and I'm hearing drum field Phil's. Dusty at one point
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was singing background vocals, was and he was three feet
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off the mic. Oh Billy was playing guitar. There was
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guitar looks coming out. Billy wasn't playing.
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Well. Here here's something real quick. When they came to
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ENID a few years ago, it was it was them.
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It was the three original and I and I went
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and saw him and then I can't remember. I think
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it was I think it was that show. I'm trying
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to think. And then they came back again without Dusty.
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Anyway, Bill, I've got this friend that plays guitar, a
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really good guitar player, and owns a guitar shop like
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the only like a used guitar record shop here in town.
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Bill Billy from the band went by his guitar shop
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just for funsies to look at guitars, and he recorded
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Bill the Billy it lives here, and Ian had.
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Recorded it, and he told me.
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Afterwards that the Billy from zz Top picked up a
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guitar and he said he could barely play it.
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I mean, so during the whole show.
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It was probably tracked because he said his fingers just
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weren't he just.
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You know, Well, here's the interesting thing. I was right
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in the front row for All is Easy Top, and
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for that one for Cheap Trick. I was off to
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the right for Zezy top. This gal who goes to
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all cheap trick shows. I mean, I've ran it in
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or through some of our Sweet Emotion shows down on
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Lincoln City, which is five hours from here. And you
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know her and her husband just always go to these shows.
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But her husband is not a cheap trick fan.
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Oh wow.
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And so I saw this gap there in the center,
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so I just kind of moved over. I said, I
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just want to take a picture. And her husband said, now, man,
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where's your seat that? And I said it's down there,
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and he goes, I'll go sit there you Oh wow.
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So I was dead center for Friz easy Top, right
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in front of Billy. And I gotta tell you, other
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than the songs from Eliminator, which are so multi track
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that I understand why they have to play with tracks
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everything else, that band was playing live, how I was
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playing live. The drummer was, And again no disrespect to
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Dusty or Frank, but I felt like Billy was getting
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a kick out of playing with these younger pressure guys
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who have a lot of energy. Yeah, and you saw.
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That was the other thing too, was just seeing I
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had to look it up, like I thought Billy was
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like eighty years old. Just because they've been around since
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late sixty nine ers. You know, Billy's a year younger
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than Rick Nielsen.
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Oh wow, he just looks older.
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And Billy though, I mean he's he's moving around, you know,
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he's he's he's kneeling down and he's a little spry,
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you know Rick. Rick can't do that, And like I said,
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it just breaks my heart for Rick.
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I noticed in your video he was hunched over a
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little bit, and when I saw him, it's probably been
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three years ago when they were up here at the casino. Yeah,
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he looked slower. But so that leads to I guess
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the subject of the podcast, And my question is, so
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now you're down to Billy.
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In zzy top is it?
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So?
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When when should a band give it up? Should they
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ever give it up?
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When I went to see Foreigner here in Enid, they
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were supposed to have I can't of course Jones Minke
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Jones was supposed to.
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Be with him.
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For some reason, he did not make it. So I
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watched an entire band with not one member off of
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Foreigner four.
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You know, I mean foreigners unique, Foreigners unique. I mean
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they're out there foreigners unique because yeah, there's not one
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original member. However, don't they sound great?
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They said great?
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But I guess I get it. I get that more.
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You play in in tribute bands.
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Yeah, I mean it is a it is a tribute band.
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I mean there's yeah, there's kind of no getting around that.
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And Once Mixed Gone that is a tribute band. But
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they're a tribute band. Who you pay? They play big
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places in charge.
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That's I guess. That's my point is should they be
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able to get away? You guys can't get away.
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Yeah, you guys can't get away with charging because you
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guys aren't using the copyrighted trademark name. Just because they
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get to use a trademark name, they're getting to put
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the prices and the venues.
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And I don't know, I I.
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That isn't this your question? But Mick Jones is behind that. Yeah,
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I want you guys to carry on. I get this
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much of a percentage of every single show carry on?
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You know?
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Yeah?
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And I know it comes down to it comes down
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to the people paying the money, because if people are
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gonna pay the But the thing is, so, if people
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are gonna pay the money and buy the tickets, then
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they're just going to keep performing. But then you get
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into somebody like David Lee Roth. You paid your money
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and then the dude can't sing, so.
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You know, I'm just and.
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Then there's that. So that's let's go with that. Because
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I saw someone today say, you know, as soon as
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I mean, it was within minutes of the announcement of
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Frank's passing ZZ or ZZ, Billy just needs to call
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it today And I don't know, No, Billy has the
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right and only Billy has the right to say I'm done.
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You sitting behind your phone or your computer screen don't
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have the right to tell him he needs to go home.
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That's what keeps him alive.
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Yeah, now see I agree with that because he was
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the front man, the songwriter, the singer, the guitar player.
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It's not like the hidden bass player or drummer is
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the only left in the band.
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Eazy Top was very much a three guy band. I mean,
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it's like it's like Rush where that's three dudes. But
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if if you really break down ZZ Top, they couldn't
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do it if Billy died, correct and the other two
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were still alive. But with Billy upfront, I think they
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can still do it. And I don't again for the
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third time, don't mean it as disrespect to Dusty and Frank.
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It just Billy is the face and the voice. Other
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than the few songs that Dusty saying which they didn't
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play to USh, you know, Billy can still do it.
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Billy can still do it, and it was a great show.
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And but also when it comes to davidly Roth, I agree.
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I mean, I trust me. Van Halen was huge in
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my world, and you know it's still are. I still
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go back to those records and I absolutely love them.
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And I think Dave was one of the best frontmen
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of all time, still holds that title, one of the
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best front men of all time. I agree with you.
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There people say, oh, Dave could never sing that bullshit. Yeah,
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Dave could sing. It's just that Michael Anthony had the high, swaring,
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high voice, you know, and Dave had character and the charisma.
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And what I see now when I see Dave, it's
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like I have never heard anyone's voice change that much
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to where it's unrecognizable from the guy I grew up on.
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It's pretty bad, especially when people isolate and they do
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the video where his voice is just isolated.
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But do we have the right to tell David Lee Roth,
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you need to go home and quit. No, that's what
490
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.480
that's Dave's passion. That's what he's done his whole life.
491
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.359
That's who he is. That's who They're not the right
492
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.240
to tell him when to stop. You can just not
493
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.079
go to the show.
494
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.039
I guess that's I guess that's yeah.
495
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.240
I guess that's what I'm kind of alluding to, is
496
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.200
if we don't want to put up with and it's happening,
497
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.839
I think, you know, sometimes these guys are canceling tours
498
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.519
because ticket sales aren't what they thought they were going
499
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:08.759
to be.
500
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:10.680
But here's a here's a listen real quick.
501
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.319
Rod Stewart eighty one canceled the show after following falling
502
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.519
on stage and later needed oxygen. Lionel Ritchie had to
503
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:22.920
cancel performance after falling in the middle of the concert.
504
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.160
Neil Young canceled concerts because of fatigue. Slash of Guns
505
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.279
N' Roses fell backwards on stage during concert in Paris.
506
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.440
Not that Slash is really as old as some of
507
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.680
these other guys, yeah, but.
508
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.720
I mean it's just it's kind of like, how long
509
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:39.119
are some of these guys going to.
510
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:39.680
Go on now?
511
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.839
But then there and to me, It kind of depends
512
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.200
on the music too. To me, I'm not real happy
513
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:48.960
with a David Lee Roth show.
514
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:50.160
Now.
515
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:53.680
If he's doing David Lee Roth songs, fine, but him
516
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:54.839
trying to do Van Halen.
517
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.599
But he does have a right, Yes he does lyric
518
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:01.240
on those.
519
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:10.880
Yeah, and and but I but just don't go yeah.
520
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.759
See See what I'm thinking is it depends on the music.
521
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:17.839
Because James Taylor, who is getting really up there, his.
522
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.359
Concert was fantastic, but so he never.
523
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.720
He's always been a guy that sat on the stool
524
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.680
whether he was young or old, and he and.
525
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:32.720
He's always sang within James Taylor's reign exactly. He didn't.
526
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.000
And same thing with Tom Petty. Tom Petty was great
527
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.599
right up to the end. I know he'll change the
528
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.440
keys on a couple songs, but for the most part,
529
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.279
Tom was himself right up to the end. Because Tom never.
530
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.599
This thing happened in the eighties where every producer said,
531
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.119
where's the top of your rings? Okay, sing there, that's
532
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.519
that's where you're gonna sing for this entire record, and
533
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:56.599
all of these.
534
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:02.039
You know bands that we're so popular in the eighties,
535
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:05.759
it's hard in hell for them to pull that off
536
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:12.640
anymore because you know, the mid sixties, mid seventies, and
537
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:19.480
voices change. Yeah, it's impossible to maintain that. And so
538
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.880
you sounding terrible. I mean, but you know, like I said, Dave,
539
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.319
I've never heard anybody's sports change. Like it just doesn't
540
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.960
sound like Dave anymore. Sammy still sounds like Sammy. But
541
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.920
Sammy always had that range.
542
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.799
But do we have the right to say, I don't know.
543
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.920
You see it all the time, you know, people people
544
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.720
they disliked the bitch. It isn't it could be anything,
545
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.680
you know, yeah, it could be anything. But it's like,
546
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:55.119
you know, I saw people already got conspiracy theories about
547
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.839
Hayden Pantereery dying and I'm like, could just knock it off?
548
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:04.079
Your girlhad That was really sad to me because I've
549
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:10.240
you know, I mean from from Remember the Titans to
550
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:17.039
Heroes to you know, Nashville and some other stuff I've watched.
551
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:19.079
I kind of felt like I watched that girl grow
552
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.279
up six.
553
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.839
Yeah, but she started so young. Everybody did watch.
554
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:30.400
Her grow up, all right. I mean, it's that was shocking, wow,
555
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.240
But I wasn't as shocked when I saw Frank past
556
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.720
I just didn't expect it to be so soon because
557
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.200
you know, I said, I go, I don't think Franks
558
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:47.640
are coming back, you know. And but yeah, but back
559
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.000
to the subject, I mean, who else is on your lists?
560
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:54.599
Well now, now, one that I'll give kudos to is Sticks.
561
00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:00.000
I saw Stick several years ago, and Stick sounds fantast
562
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:03.480
I mean, I think they've got like at least three
563
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.279
original members, if not four.
564
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.800
Sometimes I think they only have no. I think they
565
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:15.320
only have j Why and Tommy, and Tommy isn't even
566
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.280
an original member. But I mean he's been there since
567
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.039
seventy six or whatever, so he that that counts to me.
568
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:26.679
But yeah, but the guy that sounds just like Dennis
569
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.039
de Young is not Dennis de Young. You know, he
570
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.320
just sounds exactly like Ye.
571
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.599
Yeah, No, Dennis is definitely not. But when they were
572
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.480
in Enid, a third guy came out on stage.
573
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:40.960
It wasn't it might have been.
574
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:42.880
It was kind of like a special deal.
575
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.239
They were like, you know, he it wasn't like he
576
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.519
traveled with him all the time, but he just happened
577
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:49.760
to be there, and so he came.
578
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.159
Out, probably Chuck Benazo, the bass player, probably, so I
579
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.320
think he does join them from time to time, but
580
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.039
he and his brother were the rhythm section in that band,
581
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:04.159
and his brother passed away. He retired several years ago,
582
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.960
but I think he does come out from time to time.
583
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.440
But yeah, the reason it works for Stix is just
584
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:15.559
like Journey. You know that guy sounds I think his
585
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.480
name is Lawrence Gowan. He sounds just like Dennis de
586
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:26.320
Young or you mean or no, yeah, no, Lawrence count
587
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:27.239
sounds just like Denniste.
588
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.119
Oh, I thought you were talking about Journey.
589
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.480
No, no, no, I just meant that, just like Journey
590
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.079
having a guy who, yeah, sounds like that. He's not that,
591
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.719
not that he sounds just like Steve Perry, but he's
592
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.280
sitting all those notes. Yeah, you're hearing the songs sound
593
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.280
the way they should sound. He sounds enough like Perry.
594
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.119
Yeah, I was. I was a little disappointed. Kansas came
595
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:56.519
and we were huge Kansas fans, and they had one.
596
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.480
Only one member, and it was the kind of heavy
597
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.079
bearded guy that plays guitar. He was the only original
598
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.719
member and he had his guitar like on a stand
599
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.199
and and wasn't even like holding it.
600
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:13.679
He had to play the guitar while it was on
601
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:14.320
a stand.
602
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:19.480
So bad that's yeah, yeah, which you know.
603
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:21.519
I mean, I feel bad for him, but I guess
604
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.840
it's just it's kind of like when you get to
605
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.760
that point, you know, should you really be out there
606
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.920
charging money?
607
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:30.880
I don't, I don't know. I mean that's why I'm
608
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:32.679
tossing the good again.
609
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.280
I think they have every right to do it and
610
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.119
charge the money as much as you have the right
611
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:47.400
to not go correct. It's just it. I just don't think. Yeah,
612
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.599
that's I seriously believe with a lot of these guys,
613
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.039
that's what's keeping them alive.
614
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:55.639
Yeah, that's straight.
615
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.440
They stop, they stop, go home, sit down, get place,
616
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:07.039
and yeah, there's sting. There's sting. Now hacked are gonna
617
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:07.800
live out there?
618
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:09.679
Well have you seen Frankie Valley?
619
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:14.440
I haven't seen frank a long time. I heard last
620
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.960
week that he retired. Then I heard him just yesterday
621
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:18.639
say I don't know what you heard, why you heard it,
622
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:20.239
But I haven't far from retired.
623
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.360
He is like a zombie. It's so weird to watch
624
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.199
him up there on stage. But again, I guess if
625
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.880
people were going to pay the price of the tickets
626
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.719
and go see him, then I guess more power.
627
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:39.360
Yeah, I saw the Temptations, you know, and I mean
628
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.519
we were talking about this last week. I you know,
629
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.000
I saw the Temptations and Notice was the only one there.
630
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:48.320
And Notice was kind of slow and moving around, but
631
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.679
he's the one everybody yelled for. You know, they are
632
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.800
just happy. You know. I talked to people because you know,
633
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.599
although I never say they need to just pack it
634
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.840
up and go home, you know, I'll talk to some
635
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.039
of my Cheap Trick friends and say, oh, it's just
636
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.119
you know, Tell, they're really struggling, and you know it's
637
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:16.360
getting harder to go see shows, not just because it's
638
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:20.880
hard to watch my musical, you know, my childhood heroes,
639
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:26.039
you know kind of struggle like that. But you know,
640
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.960
my friends at the Cheap Trick shows, they got a
641
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.840
great you know, like I said, some of them see
642
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:33.119
one hundred and fifty shows.
643
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:35.679
Yeah, that's crazy, and they're.
644
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.000
Like, look, man, they're not going to be around much longer.
645
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.079
I was going to say, well, so what if I
646
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:42.039
want to see as many as I can while I can,
647
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.480
and say I was. I was with them the whole time,
648
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.239
and I totally get that.
649
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.199
What if what if Nielsen or Xander one one or
650
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.159
the other, and then it doesn't work, got replaced.
651
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:54.400
Are you still going to see him?
652
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.280
Well, I will tell you this, I'm going to replace
653
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.760
Rick Nielson one day. There you go, and then it'll
654
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:02.280
be okay.
655
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:03.480
That would be cool.
656
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:11.360
Actually I was backstage about about ten years ago and
657
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.280
Robin remembered me because they used to be in a
658
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.639
Cheap Trick Trigger band. They were well aware of who
659
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.360
we were at the time. And I played Rick you know,
660
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.679
and Robin goes, hey, you still know all the songs
661
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.320
and I said, yeah, he goes, I might be calling
662
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:25.840
you someday.
663
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:27.519
So that's too funny.
664
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:32.360
So I told my my friend Tracy, she runs the
665
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.559
drummer of Rick's son. She runs his whole fan club thing.
666
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.719
I said, hey, tell them a Rick every wants to
667
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.559
just stay home. I'm I'm still up for it, you know,
668
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.639
But I mean half joking. But at the same time, yeah, man,
669
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:51.760
you know, at the Cheap Trick show, I got to
670
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.159
hang out with my buddy I haven't seen a while.
671
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:56.639
He's the drummer for the Beach Boys. Now why not? Yeah? Yeah,
672
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:58.840
he grew up loving the Beach Boys. I grew up
673
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.639
loving Cheap Trick. Why not?
674
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.599
Why not put you on guitar and let you play
675
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.800
the songs and let Rick wander around the stage throwing
676
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:07.920
picks out in the audience.
677
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:13.280
Well that's the other thing, Buddy, Rick grabbed a handful
678
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.039
of picks, uh huh, and he used to sail back
679
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:21.119
to like the fifteenth row. Seriously, with a handful of picks.
680
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.800
He would go back to like the fifteenth row. He
681
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.079
didn't even make it to the barrier.
682
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:27.960
Oh no.
683
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:31.239
I mean literally, we're all we're all standing right there
684
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.079
at the barrier at the front of the stage, and
685
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:40.599
not one the security guard just such a cool dude
686
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:43.440
just went through there and just picked them all up
687
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.559
and went down the front of the barrier and gave
688
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.039
us all a pick. I mean, it's like my twenty
689
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:53.920
pick I got. But it was still cool. But it's like, yeah,
690
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:56.039
you know, but you know, poor guy. I mean, I
691
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.360
think he's got a torn rotator cuff. I think he's
692
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:02.159
got nick and back shoes, and you know, I mean
693
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.199
I feel for him. I love the guy, and he's
694
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.320
one of my favorite guitar players and one of my
695
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:12.639
favorite songwriters. But I think what I think a big
696
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.360
part of what's going on with Rick is like picture
697
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.480
Rick from nineteen seventy seven. You know, the seventies. What
698
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:25.119
was he doing? He was not just and he used
699
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.119
to wear wrestling shoes which aren't don't Yeah, because I
700
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.440
wore too when I when I played him, you know,
701
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.480
I wore the same shoes, wrestling shoes, absolutely no support.
702
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.199
And he wouldn't just jump off things. He would leap
703
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:46.159
and just come flat down. So I seriously think that
704
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:47.079
years of that.
705
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:49.559
Have just.
706
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.480
Brutalized his body. Yeah, you know, he is paying now
707
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.079
for what he did in the seventies.
708
00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:59.840
Yeah, and I'm sure a lot of his guitars are
709
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:01.920
are heavy, heavy, heavy.
710
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:03.599
He doesn't play the five neck anymore.
711
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:04.519
Oh really?
712
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.440
Wow? Yeah? Yeah, I mean there was there was a
713
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:11.079
video going around a few months ago where he dropped it.
714
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.000
It fell off his shoulder and he could not get
715
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:18.280
it back up off onto his shoulder. I mean that's
716
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:26.119
so if Robin's gone, it doesn't work. I mean, I
717
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:30.760
personally think without Rick it doesn't work. But hey, if
718
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.760
someone saying, hey, Todd, you want to play guitar for
719
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.679
Rick Nielsen, yes, thank you very much. I will. I
720
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.599
will take that gig and I will do it. And
721
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.079
you know, I learned how to play from him, so
722
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.519
I know how to do that. There'd be a lot
723
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:51.760
of guitar players that could do it, you know, a
724
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.679
thousands of them, But do they have that that Rick
725
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:01.800
Nielsen thing, you know, that looseness and that that thing
726
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.519
that Rick had. You know, I feel like that's all
727
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.840
a big part of how I play, just because I
728
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.079
learned how to play from Rick, you know. Yeah, Well,
729
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.119
it's one of the reasons I don't have a problem
730
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:20.760
with Dax. Their drummer, which is Rick's son, Bunny Carlos,
731
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:24.320
is my favorite drumm of all time. And even though
732
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.280
there is this depth that's missing since Money's been gone,
733
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:35.920
this just fat. This's just enormous drum sound that's missing,
734
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.599
the feel of the band is the same, and so
735
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.639
I just I don't have a problem with him. You know. Yeah,
736
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.599
he seems like a super cool dude. I've met him.
737
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.639
He's a cool dude. But but when numbers come in
738
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.719
and they change the sound of the band, that's where
739
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.000
it sucks. And that's that's why it'd be hard to replace.
740
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:02.960
Robin is. Even though he's not quite what he used
741
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:09.199
to be, he's not he's still Yeah, he still sounds
742
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.159
like Robin Sander. Yeah, you know, and you know, having
743
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.000
his son up on stage too, because Robin's son is
744
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.199
there also, Uh we have they're a five man band
745
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:26.880
now at least as a touring unity and entity. And
746
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:34.519
he covers for Rick and Robin. I mean he I
747
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.320
was standing right in front of him for the Cheap
748
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.199
Tricks that I was like, yeah, dude knows the songs. Man.
749
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.920
He's you know, he's he's got this down and he's
750
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:44.760
kind of coming to his own now, which is great
751
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.000
because he's so used to before he was kind of
752
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.559
the shy kid. Now he's he's really coming to He's
753
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.400
he's stilling picks at girls, cleaving to funny. It's like
754
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:56.559
doing what Rick used to do, and and they're looking
755
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:58.880
around and he's looking at going that was me, that
756
00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.199
was me.
757
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:01.280
Funny.
758
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.800
But I used to have a problem with him being
759
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:06.920
in the band, but I really see the importance of
760
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.280
him being in the band now is he covers for
761
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.440
Robin vocally, he sings right along with him to you know,
762
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.840
keep the vocals tight, and he plays the songs really
763
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:25.400
well and helps cover for you know, Rick and I
764
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:32.159
just don't Cheap Tricks are not gonna stop until one
765
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.719
of them dies on stage, or until until Rick or
766
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.639
Robin passed. And they've already done it without Tom, They've
767
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:47.280
done it without Bunny. And I happened to see the
768
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.000
only show in fifty years that Robin Zander wasn't at.
769
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.559
There's only been one show in fifty years that Robin
770
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.920
Xander didn't make the show when it happened to be there,
771
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:07.920
and that was that was wild, yeah, because you know, look,
772
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.280
I don't have the I don't have a Robin Xander voice,
773
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.840
but I got some grit empowered to my voice. And
774
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.599
a buddy of mine text me said, Robin Xander is
775
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.719
not going to be there, and I said, Rick, tell
776
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:19.440
them I can do it. I can do it, you know.
777
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.639
I don't have Robin Xander's but I can do this,
778
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.159
you know. And they said, he just joked, hahaha, didn't
779
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:33.679
tell him. They ended up bringing out, like, you know,
780
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:41.320
like eight different singers from local Seattle bands, and none
781
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:45.760
of them knew the damn song. No, They're all holding
782
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.840
pieces of paper in their hand and trying to sing
783
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.280
the song like you don't even know the songs man.
784
00:46:54.159 --> 00:47:01.159
But but and this was just awesome. Is for dream
785
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.760
police they brought out I don't know where she came from.
786
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.159
I don't know who whose child it was, but they
787
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.719
brought out a twelve year old Oh wow, and she sang,
788
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:14.679
she sang dream Police. She didn't have no lyrics sheet.
789
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.920
She sang every word, and she did it with fire
790
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:25.360
and was total stage charisma. I was just so impressed
791
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.840
that right there was was worth it seeing the you know,
792
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.079
only show in fifty years that Robin didn't make it.
793
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.840
His house was in danger. It was a hurricane in Florida,
794
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.039
so I gotta go. I gotta go. And they were
795
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:41.719
opening for Heart. Oh no, they were opening for a foreigner,
796
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:48.320
and yeah, it was. It was pretty amazing not watching
797
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.599
that girl do that. But I've seen Cheap Trick and
798
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:55.000
shows too where I went all the way over to
799
00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:02.840
spoke hands five hours. This was back in probably Oh,
800
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.440
I know exactly what it was. It was. It was
801
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.000
ly late July of twenty one because my stepfather had
802
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.800
just passed. I saw them three days that week. The
803
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:21.519
first night I was walking into Cheap Trick when I
804
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.599
got the call that my stepfather just died. Oh wow,
805
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:30.920
which is really odd because twenty three years or earlier.
806
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.360
The day I met him was the day I heard
807
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.760
cheap Trick for the first time. Oh wow, not from me,
808
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:41.920
not from him, but you know, he took us up
809
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:45.519
to this campsite where my cousins were at and this guy,
810
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.000
this guy said, hey, one of my sisters sit in
811
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:49.440
the car, and I jumped in the car and he
812
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:51.119
played cheap Trick and I was like, who is this?
813
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.280
Who is this? And so yeah, I was like, so
814
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.400
cheap Trick also kind of bookends my relationship with my stepfather.
815
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.239
So I saw him three three nights that week and
816
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.280
saw him in Portland, which is when I got the
817
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:11.440
call by my stepfather. So that was July twenty third.
818
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:16.440
And then I saw them two days later in Seattle,
819
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:23.639
and Bunny was gone during this time, and Rick soon
820
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:30.000
was just filling in for the first time. And then
821
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.199
we went all the way out Spokane to see them
822
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:38.079
at a speedway and the show starts, and right away
823
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:42.440
you could tell something's up with Robin. You know, his
824
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:51.519
voice is shot and about three songs and he's looking
825
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:55.800
over at Rick and he's just doing the the hand
826
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.360
across the neck like I am done. I can't do this,
827
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.159
and Rick is pacing back and forth. I mean his
828
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:08.039
his usual stage. You know, back then he was still
829
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.880
running around. It wasn't his usual racing around the stage.
830
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:14.920
It was it was pacing like, oh shit, what do
831
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.079
we do? What do we do? What do we do?
832
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.599
And he would call out songs to Robin, and Robin
833
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:28.280
would just give the new do it. And and so
834
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.800
they tried to play a ballad that was off there.
835
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:34.800
It's called Shelter. It's about losing parents. So that was
836
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.559
really heavy for me. I remember that. It was just
837
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.519
it was about all of them. It was written about
838
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.599
them losing their parents. Right around that same time, well
839
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:47.760
ninety seven is when that song came out. And and
840
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:53.199
for whatever reason, Tom Peterson just couldn't remember this song.
841
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.360
Oh wow, And and Rick kept walking over. I mean,
842
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.679
so Robin's having trouble singing, and Rick's walking over showing
843
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:02.800
Tom how to sing the song.
844
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:03.960
Oh Man.
845
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.039
And the opening band on that that for Chief Trick
846
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:13.320
along that tour was Rick's other son, Miles and his band.
847
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.559
So they brought Miles up to help us out. Man.
848
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:25.519
But Miles didn't know the songs at great and he
849
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:30.519
also doesn't sing like Robin Xander. And there was this
850
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.920
great father son moment because Miles came down. You could
851
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.800
tell he was nervous, and he had his he had
852
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:38.800
his head down, kind of doing the Seattle singer thing
853
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:43.599
with his head down. And that's just not how the
854
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.480
Midwesterners do it, you know what I mean, either're from Chicago,
855
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.559
you don't do that here. And and Rick just stuck
856
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.639
his fingers in his mouth and whistled really loud. Miles
857
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.400
looked over, and Rick just tapped his he tapped his
858
00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:58.599
hand under his chin.
859
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.079
Like shut up, yeah, to stay.
860
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:04.559
It was this great father son moment, and Miles just
861
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.079
snapped into it. But they only made it through like
862
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:11.039
two more songs and then so Rick finally just stepped
863
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:13.920
up to the mic and goes, look, you're not seeing
864
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:20.800
cheap trick. We were really sorry, but we gotta go. Well,
865
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.960
we'll make it up to you. And they left the stage.
866
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.920
They played like five songs. Yeah, and there were people
867
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:29.360
that were so pissed off.
868
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.960
Yeah, but nah, you can't be pissed off.
869
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:34.599
It was only twenty dollars to go to that show.
870
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.440
I mean, yeah, we drove five hours. It's only twenty
871
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:39.360
dollars to get that show. And I remember looking at
872
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.880
my friend who was bitching, and I went, when have
873
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.800
you ever seen cheap Trick train wreck like that? It
874
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:51.039
was never and you got to see it. Yeah, I
875
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:53.840
just paid twenty dollars to see cheap Trick train Wreck.
876
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:55.440
I've got a story. Yeah, you got a.
877
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.000
Story because they've never done it, you know. I mean
878
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:03.199
they were at that time, they were just like a locomotive.
879
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:08.719
I mean they kicked ass every time. And so to
880
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:13.320
see that, I was like, yeah, I'll pay twenty bucks
881
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.800
to see that. That's the that that's really rare. Yeah
882
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.400
that was cool and yeah, yeah, I've had a lot
883
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.880
of weird, weird experiences with you, chick over the years.
884
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.719
Yeah, well you've seeing a lot.
885
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.920
Of weird stuff. So seeing that often page stuff and
886
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:35.199
stuff that's happen on stage and transformers blowing and ending
887
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:39.440
the show, it's just like, yeah, I've seen all kinds
888
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.000
of kind of shows that are considered like oh wow,
889
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.400
you're right that show they're all for whatever is and
890
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:46.719
they happen out here, you know.
891
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:52.800
Yeah, But so are there are there any seventies bands
892
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:57.760
out there right now that you're wanting to see, Like
893
00:53:57.840 --> 00:53:59.960
a eat, when's I have you seen the Eagles?
894
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:00.239
Well?
895
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:04.039
And you know, I never have seen the egos and
896
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:10.119
and sure I would go. I would go, but kind
897
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:18.000
of since Glenn's gone, you know, it's just I would go. Absolutely,
898
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:20.800
I would go. I would go see a C d C.
899
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:30.360
I've never seen a C d C unfortunately, but I
900
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.480
don't know of any others that are really touring that.
901
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:40.760
I've seen Sticks several times, Frantom several times.
902
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:46.760
I'm kind of hoping that Lindsay and.
903
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.320
Yeah, me too, I would like to see that. I've
904
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:55.599
never seen Fleetwood Mac, but I've seen Lindsay like four times.
905
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:57.920
I would definitely go see that.
906
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.960
What am I trying to say? Lindsay and Stevie.
907
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.360
Stevie Yeah, if they yeah, and if it's just those two,
908
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:08.320
I would go see those two just as those in
909
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:09.239
a heartbeat.
910
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.920
Sure, but I think it would be Fleetwood Mac. I mean,
911
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.079
and someone was saying, how could you possibly tour without
912
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.559
Christy mcviee, It's like, well, do you remember that time
913
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.199
where Christy mcveee retired for like twelve years and Fleetwood
914
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:25.039
Mac went on and toured and made albums without her.
915
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:31.599
It'd be like that, you know, I mean, it's they've
916
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.400
done it. They've done it, they've done it without Lindsay.
917
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.079
They've you know, Stevie seems to be the one who
918
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:41.519
throws a fit every time they say we're going on
919
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.199
tour whether you want to or not, And she's like,
920
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:46.800
you do it with happening and I'll sue. Yeah, So
921
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.239
that was the whole issue with her and Lindsay. But
922
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.519
I think you know they're they made up now and
923
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:56.199
things seem to be good, and yeah, Lindsay said, yeah,
924
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.400
I can see what's going on tour again.
925
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:01.719
Yeah, and that would definitely be the one I think
926
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:03.039
that I would want to see.
927
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:05.599
Yeah, I would. I would definitely want to go see them.
928
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:09.519
Like I said, I've seen Lindsay four times. I've seen
929
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:12.760
him solo acoustic, I've seen him with a ten piece band.
930
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:18.719
I've seen always. Lindsay's just he's a freaking nature. He's
931
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:23.880
just amazing to watch. Yeah, there's no way that that's
932
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:27.719
one guy playing guitar and he's got somebody behind the stage, Like, no, man,
933
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.760
it's all in those fingers. He's doing it all.
934
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:32.840
Yeah. Have you seen any of his videos.
935
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.119
He's been putting out videos where he has one of
936
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.519
his kids right and they'll they'll mention a song or
937
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.199
something and he'll sit there and show how he played it,
938
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:42.880
and it's it's cool.
939
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:48.360
Yeah, yeah, it's it's just good to see him healthy
940
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:49.840
again because I don't know if you remember, but he
941
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.719
had a heart issue a few years ago. Yeah, it
942
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.639
was kind of scary. So to see him back and
943
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:59.920
being healthy and working again making music is like a
944
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:06.000
good yeah, because yeah, Louis Mac, I'd love to see
945
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:13.000
the Eagles a CDC. I can't really think of anybody
946
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.039
else from that era that I haven't seen that, you know,
947
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:20.559
that's that's still in a state that I would want
948
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.039
to see, like like like you know, Fog had this one.
949
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:28.239
It's the drummer, you know, Yeah, Grand funk is melon
950
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:33.039
Don But to me, I try to stay away from
951
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.440
that too, like you know no, yeah, you know, no
952
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:41.559
Steve Perry, no Journey, no no, no, you know, well
953
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.480
like no Foreigner.
954
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:46.320
Yeah, there's nobody left in Leonard Skinnard is there, and
955
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:47.599
I think they're ring.
956
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:50.119
The only way they get away with it is like
957
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:52.719
before the band made an album, Ricky Medlock was in
958
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:56.880
the band for a while as their drummer, but then
959
00:57:56.920 --> 00:58:01.840
he left and and they went on came successful, and
960
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:03.920
now he's back in the band as a guitar player.
961
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:05.880
So I think that's there like way, I'm I'm an
962
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:10.360
original original member, but but no, it's not. And it's
963
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.760
would I pay big money to go see Skinner? No,
964
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:18.320
you know, would I pay? I've seen Foreigner a couple
965
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.320
of times, so, you know, and I, like I said,
966
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.800
I was really I was okay with it. I saw
967
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them with Mick though, well no, yeah, that's alng with
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Mick both times, and and that was great because it
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was Mick, you know. But here's the thing about no
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Lou Graham, no Foreigner. You know the people who say
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those things, Yeah, no Lou Graham, no Foreigner, no Steve Perry,
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no Journey.
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You know, if no Steve watsh no Kansas.
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If Lou Graham was in Foreigner right now, those same
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people would be saying, what happened to louke Graham? He
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needs to go home, pack it up. And Lou knows that.
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And Steve definitely knows that. Steve Perry knows that he's
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not the Steve Perry you remember, Yeah, and he knows
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that if he goes and rejoins Journey and goes on stage,
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people are going to be vicious because yeah, sure, I'm
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sure Steve has a great voice still, but he's not
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going to sound like Steve Perry that you remember and
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you think that forty years hasn't deteriorated. It's hard on
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a singer, and those same people would be complaining, you know,
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if those members were back. It's still the same reason
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Robert Plant won't do a led Zeppelin reunion. He knows
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he can't be the Robert Plant you want him to be. Yeah,
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so he chooses to do a different genre of music.
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Yeah, which is cool.
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Now.
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See that's kind of cool is seeing an artist because
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you get to see the art, but they're not disappointing
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you with a bad version of their songs.
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Well, it's like Paul Stanley doing Soul Station. He's doing
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all these soul songs. Yeah, I mean he does classic
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soul songs and he also wrote five soul songs for
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that album. And it's much more in his vocal range.
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That's that that is easy for him to sing where
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he's not doing kiss stuff and screaming. That's why Kiss
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came to an end is Paul knew it's it's done.
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I'm going to embarrass myself if I go on any farther,
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you know, And some said he already was embarrassing himself,
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but you know it, so you know that's what I means. Like,
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when they decide it's time to stop, that's when it
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should stop. Otherwise we have the right to not go. Yeah,
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David Lee Roth was here a couple months ago. I
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didn't go, you know, I I wouldn't go. Yeah, I don't.
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I don't want to see that. You know, I saw
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Dave back in two thousand to two thousand, Yeah, about
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two thousand and two, two thousand and three. I mean
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it was fantastic back then, you know, but you know
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that was twenty three years ago, right, So yeah, I
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mean it's it is what it is. But you know,
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I just don't think we have the right to say
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Motley krue gets horribly just quit already.
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Yeah stop like he Well you guys, yeah.
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People fill in this stadium, aren't you know, they're not
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They seem to be enjoying it. You know, let's let
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them enjoy it.
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Yeah, Well, everybody listening.
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Let us know what you guys think. What do you guys,
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you guys get going to the concerts. Let us know,
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like if you guys have gone to one that disappointed you,
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or if you've gone to one that was like like
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when we went to James Taylor was like really good
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and you're like, oh wow, I wasn't expecting that.
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So let us know.
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Oh, I got a new hang on real quick. I
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got a new phone number. We got a Buzzhead hotline.
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And let me.
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I got it right here somewhere.
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Uh, you guys hit us up at six oh one
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five six eighty. That is the new Buzzhead Hotline or
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buzz a busheadmedia dot com and give us some feedback
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on the episode. Let me know about the intro, what
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you guys want to do with the intro? And well,
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I guess I'm gonna let you go Christopher Todd.
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And see your raider. She Uh, I missed that guy, and.
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I didn't want to didn't want to jump into it.
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I went to Callahan's last night and I literally just
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got up and left. I was like, this is just
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not working.
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So yeah, yeah, well let's keep that alive. Rader.
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Okay, see yeah, all right, brother, I love you, man,
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I love you.
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Bye.
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Okay, you guys hit us up buzza Buzzheadmedia dot com
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or like I said six oh one five six eight,
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twenty two twenty is the new buzzhead hotline.
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We would love to hear some feedback from you.
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Guys on these bands and singers that just continue to
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go on and on.
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Is it something you're gonna pay pay high ticket prices
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to
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Go see or not, but let us know and appreciate
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you're gonna get out of here CEO
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Three two one, Hey buzzheads.
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Jug.
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Hey everybody, Welcome to the Curtis Tucker Retro Buzz and
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Adventures Podcast, otherwise known as the Retro Buzz Podcast.
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Hey, got a quick question.
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For you guys, what do you think about the intro?
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It's the old intro from Buzzhead Radio without the words Buzzhead.
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Radio. It just has Buzzhead So let me know.
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Somebody had mentioned that they liked it. But with all
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this new technology and stuff, I could write a new
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one that's more retro buzzy.
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Or if you guys like that one, we'll stick with it.
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But I need just a few of you guys to
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vote and let me know. And guess what, you guys
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now have.
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A way of voting and getting a hold of me
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so much easier.
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We have an.
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Official buzz Head hotline.
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It is up and running, and my only drawback is
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it's kind of recording the messages from me is kind
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of wonky and they don't sound very good. So I've
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tried several with some recordings of Todd and I and
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they just are not working out. And then even me
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just speaking sounds ten million times better. But even a
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little bit wonky on that so I'm going to continue
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to work on my voice mail message do you guys,
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But you guys, your messages sound great coming back the
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other way.
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So anyway, the number. Here you go.
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You guys, got your pen get your number two pencils out, everybody,
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number two pencils, clean off your desk.
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Back straight here we go.
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Six zero one, five six eight twenty two twenty, Yes,
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twenty two twenty.
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You guys see what I did there?
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Six oh one five six eight twenty two twenty is
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the new Buzzhead hotline.
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Somebody use it.
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Richard Quavis as the first one that recognized it. They're
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on Facebook and used it. I appreciate you, Richard. And
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so you guys can leave five minute messages from what
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it says, and if you need to go longer, just
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call back and leave another one.
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So I've got that up and running, okay.
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And then I think I had talked about the Kurtis
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Tucker podcast. It is actually not going away. I was
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able to move all of my podcasts to Spreaker. This
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probably isn't gonna mean a whole lot to anybody, but
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I thought if I had to move every podcast episode
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one at a time from buzz sprout to Spreaker, I
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just wasn't gonna do it, and we're gonna lose all
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those old Kurtis Tucker episodes, Well we're not it. With
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a click of a button, it moved them all over
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automatically for me. So the eighties Buzz will stay on.
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You guys can listen to those old episodes. The Curtis
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Tucker podcast will stay on. You can listen to those
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old podcast episodes. I'm gonna leave the Buzzhead Radio podcast
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episodes further down on this podcast, but you know, the
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newer episodes will start filling in. But if you want
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to go and be nostalgic and here's some old Todd conversations,
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I'm gonna leave those up. And so again, this Buzz
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Retro Buzz podcast is a mixture of Buzz Radio and
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the Curtis Tucker Podcast. And then I've also got my
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Oki Buzz podcast going again, which is going to be
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a little bit of Kurtis Tucker podcast rolled into it
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as well. So I'm down to three podcasts which I
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think I can keep these going and really really ramp
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them up.
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Seventies Buzz Retro.
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Buzz and Oki Buzz and then all of my social
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media is going to run through Kurtis Tucker, either the
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Curtis Tucker Facebook page, Curtis Tucker dot Com, Kurtis Tucker
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YouTube channel. That way, I don't have to have social
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media for every podcast and on every platform, because just
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keeping up with Kurtis Tucker and.
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Ended Buzz alone is blood. It's enormous, but having to
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do even more so. The Seventies Buzz Facebook page is
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not going to be updated.
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Todd had set that up up and forgot to put
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me down as an administrator, so I can't get in
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and do a whole lot of stuff. But the Seventies
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Buzzfacebook group is going to continue on just like normal,
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So there's an update there. And then Philip Carey and
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Gretchen both wondered about what happened to the August eleventh
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episode and the trailer, So here's what happened. So on
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August eleventh, I recorded the trailer for Retro Buzz podcast.
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After I got done recording it, it dawned on me
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that Christopher Todd and I had really already done to
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Retro Buzz episodes, the one with movie soundtracks and the
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other one which I can't think of what our subject was.
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But anyway, they both had subjects, which makes them a
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little different than the old rambling Buzzhead radio. So what
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I thought was, well, those two should be the first
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two official Retrobuss podcasts. So what I did was I
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changed the date on the trailer to be a date
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before those two podcasts, which meant the August eleventh episode
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disappeared and the trailer disappeared, But they didn't really disappear.
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It just got moved down three episodes. So if you
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go to your device, just go three episodes down and
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that third oldest now after this one will be the
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fourth oldest, will be the trailer, and there won't be
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an August eleventh episode date wise, but just know that
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the August eleventh episode was that trailer. I didn't think
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about that when I moved it, but I did move it,
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so that's where that problem came in. Hopefully I didn't
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confuse everybody, but I think, let me think is that my.
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I think that's all the updates for right now.
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Lots of updates on seventies buzz if you're not listening
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to that podcast. Got a lot of people lined up
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for different podcasts, so appreciate you guys, and we probably
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should give.
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Mister Christopher Todd or Ring a dinghy. See what he's
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up to. Curtis Tucker, what's going on?
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C t D?
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What are you up to?
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Oh? It's just getting back from getting some break work
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done in my car. Just h Yeah, just just got back.
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Okay.
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So you I thought you. You messaged and said your
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new vehicle?
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Is it?
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So did you get a new vehicle?
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Yeah?
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What did you get?
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A moss to c X five first first time in
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thirty Yeah, first time in thirty years. I haven't owned
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a Ford?
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Wow, dude?
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Really?
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So what what? What caused the big change?
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Oh? It was just time. It was just time. I
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had a I don't know if I if I told you,
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but a few years ago I just bought a car
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and I think two thousand, bought a car from my boss.
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Got a great deal on it. It's in really good shape.
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And then like a year later, I got rear ended
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and just I mean it it. I got hit by
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a Ford F five fifty pickup was like a flat
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bag bid and I was at a complete stop. Oh,
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I was waiting to turn into the shop where I worked,
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and I just sitting there and all of a sudden,
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i'd looked behind me when I slowed down and stopped there,
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I couldn't see anything behind me. The next thing I know,
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I'm waiting for all this traffic to go by, you know,
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on the other lane, so I can turn my left turn.
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Sorry.
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And finally I just happened to look up in my
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rearview mirror and all I saw was a backwards Ford emblem.
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Or before I even had time to brace, I was
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in the back seat. Oh man, it hit me so
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hard it snapped the seat back and threw me in
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the back seat.
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Wow.
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And I went, I want a good I don't know, man,
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a good one hundred and fifty two hundred feet straight ahead.
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into the ditch that was on the right. It just
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kept going straight. And I was in the back seat. Wow.
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And I get out and the guy goes worse thing
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you could possibly say, Oh man, I'm so sorry. I
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wasn't even looking. I was looking at my phone.
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You gotta be kidding.
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I don't know, dying, I don't know, but it's been well.
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I think that happened in yeah, twenty two December nineteenth,
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twenty two, and I just texted my lawyer yesterday. I
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was like, what's going on with this case? Man, Oh, well,
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we'll get back to you. Yeah. So it's still is
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it's still going on. Wow, it's still going on. When
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that was, I was waiting until I got that settlement
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to go buy a new car, because it's been my plan.
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Because I ended up. Even though the insurance company totaled
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my car, I was like, I could still drive this thing.
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I drove it for ten days before you even came
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and looked at it. Wow, you know, and you're telling
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me now that it's total that I ended up. I
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was like, I just I just bought the car back
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from him, took a lower payback, you know, because I
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bought my car, which was nice because it was four
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grand more than I paid for it to begin with.
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my car, which still ended up more than what I
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paid for it, and kept driving the car. And it's
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just that it's so loud. It was just because I mean,
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it tweaked the back end of it. Luckily, you know,
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when cars are all the outsides plastic now, so I
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mean it bent the back frame so bad it still
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ran straight, no problems. And then the frame was spent
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so bad in the back, but the plastic popped out,
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so you couldn't tell, oh wow, it wasn't so it
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wasn't like I. It wasn't like I was driving around
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in this car that was all but the back hatch.
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You know, it had about a half an inch gap
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because it wouldn't shut all the way. It would lock,
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but it wouldn't shut all the way because it was
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all bent. Because because of that, the road noise was
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just you know, this car, this car is so quiet.
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I love it. You shut the doors, rore at the
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windows like you don't hear the road at all. It's
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I got to keep my foot out of it. Man.
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It's like, damn this thing. I look down and go
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slow down because I don't know if you have it
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down there or not. But they're putting up these things
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now all over here, these little black squares, and it's
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they're keeping an eye on they're putting they're keep an
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eye on you everywhere you go. And event and eventually
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what that's going to be is tickets being issued because
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I'm also seeing around where they have those signs, I'm
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also seeing the speed the little trailers they sit there
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with show you your speed, huh, And that's to let
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you know you're going too fast. You got to used
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to go on the speed limit. Yeah, because eventually we're
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going to be I mean, I could drive from here
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to work, which is forty five minutes, and get a
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ticket five times.
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It's yeah, it's coming, it's coming.
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So well they do that now.
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light and the camera gets you in the intersection.
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My brother in law, this was like.
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Fifteen years ago, even was in California and ran a
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red light and got.
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A ticket in the mail.
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pay it.
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I got one, well, I go it says I did
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a California stuff. There's no way, And then you can
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go and look at the video and like, well I
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guess I did. Yeah.
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But then I got a speeding ticket in a school
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zone for going five miles over the speed limit. But
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it was a Sunday and there was no school.
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Oh wow, and.
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They still wouldn't let me out of the ticket.
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That doesn't sound right. In Oklahoma, it's got to be
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within the school hours.
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To get it to and usually that's what it is.
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there now, I just go really slow because yeah, obviously
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they don't. Yeah, they told me. I you know, I
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submitted a complaint, said, hey, there was no school. I
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was going five miles over the speed limit. For over
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the school zone speed limit. I'm going to normal you
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know speed limit. Like nope, no, it doesn't matter. It's
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still school zone. Yeah when school is in session. But
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uh yeah, whatever, it is what it is.
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Tell us about the Cheap Trick zz Top concert you
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just went to.
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Oh you know, my I wasn't going to go, you know,
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I didn't. I didn't plan on going. But my buddy
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who I had met. His name is John King. I've
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known John for thirty years just from running into him
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at cheap trick shows.
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That's so crazy because we go to.
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So many cheap trick shows. And he sent me a
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message and said, hey, I got a free front row
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ticket if you wanted. I was like, yeah, okay, I'll go,
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you know. And and it was really nice hanging out
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with John and Aosh. I found out the reason he
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had a ticket was because he's there was a plant
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explosion down south to here a few years ago or
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not sorry, a few months ago. He lost two sons
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in that two sons, and I was just like, oh, John, wow,
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him and you know, just get out and watch the show.
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Dang, I can't even imagine.
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Holy I know, two of them within like thirty seconds
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of each other. You know, they want different explosions from
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that plant. And but we were right up front, right
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against the barrier. And I gotta be honest, you know,
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I'm a huge Cheap Trick fan, but but it's been
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a long time since I've been to a Cheap Trick
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show and walked away thinking they were great. You know what,
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really yeah, because because for decades that's all I got
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from Cheap Trick was great. But you know they're older.
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Rick Rick moves around really really slow now, yes, and
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and and it looks like it hurts for him to
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move around even. Yeah, and and that's hard to watch,
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you know, And I mean, I mean it's hard to
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watch because that's my guy, man, I know, you know,
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that's that's that's one of the reasons I play guitar.
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It's reasons I write songs, is one. And it's hard
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to watch him in the I don't know if he's
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got arthritis or he just doesn't care anymore because he's
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in pain. He just usually doesn't play very well anymore either.
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And Robin, Robin's getting older and his voice is not
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what it used to be. And I don't know what
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it is when the set when the show is over,
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I looked at John and I go, is it because
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I'm in the front row? Because that was the best
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cheap Tricks show I've seen in ten years. Yeah, he goes,
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maybe it's a set list. I go, no, No, it's
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not that I've heard them play these songs before. It's
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I think it's just because it's in the front row,
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you know, where the energy is just a lot higher.
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And yeah, and it was just.
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I like, I like the fact that it was outside
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because when I saw him it was in a casino,
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which actually kind of sucks to watch a rock band
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in a small casino.
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I would say probably if it's not neck and neck.
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I've probably seen more outdoor shows than indoor shows with
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Cheap Trick. Yeah, you know, because for years they've been
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on the fair circuit. So I've seen them so many
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times at county fairs and just in outdoor parks, and
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so I would say, you know, if it's not neck
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and neck. That was my forty eighth show, Wow, which
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is Hey, that's that's nothing. You know, John, my buddy
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was I was with that's cute. Todd. This is my
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one hundred and first and we were there that's crazy.
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And even then we're like, we got all this Cheap
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Trick network on Facebook. And these two girls from Pennsylvania
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they were here a couple of years ago. I went
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and had breakfast with him and and I walked around
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the corner. It's like, what are you doing here? You
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live in Pennsylvania, And they're like, Eh, we're just traveling
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around the country for the summer. Following Cheap Trick and
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Wows Crick and Foreigner and some other bands. I was
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cool to see them. I got to see a bunch
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of old friends and and then Yeah, you gotta remember, man,
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this was only zz Top's first show after canceling one
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when Frank couldn't make it.
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Yeah, and then the bad news today.
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And something told me Frank's not coming back. Yeah, just
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because I remember that same thing with Dusty. It was
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like he was there and then they said serious health
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problem and then he was gone, and I had a
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feeling like Frank's not coming back, and I'm glad that. Yeah.
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A few years ago, I saw the same show at
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a different park with Cheap Trick opening for Frizzy Easy Top,
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and that was the original was Eazy Top. Yeah, I
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was Frank and Dusty. But I'll tell you what I
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did notice about that first show versus the one the
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other night. And this is no disrespect to to Dusty
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or Frank, but when I saw them a few years ago,
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I think it might have been twenty three, twenty two,
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it was clear that a large percentage of that show
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was tracked. Yeah, there was. Frank was playing straight beats
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and I'm hearing drum field Phil's. Dusty at one point
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was singing background vocals, was and he was three feet
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off the mic. Oh Billy was playing guitar. There was
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guitar looks coming out. Billy wasn't playing.
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Well. Here here's something real quick. When they came to
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ENID a few years ago, it was it was them.
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It was the three original and I and I went
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and saw him and then I can't remember. I think
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it was I think it was that show. I'm trying
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to think. And then they came back again without Dusty.
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Anyway, Bill, I've got this friend that plays guitar, a
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really good guitar player, and owns a guitar shop like
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the only like a used guitar record shop here in town.
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Bill Billy from the band went by his guitar shop
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just for funsies to look at guitars, and he recorded
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Bill the Billy it lives here, and Ian had.
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Recorded it, and he told me.
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Afterwards that the Billy from zz Top picked up a
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guitar and he said he could barely play it.
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I mean, so during the whole show.
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It was probably tracked because he said his fingers just
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weren't he just.
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You know, Well, here's the interesting thing. I was right
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in the front row for All is Easy Top, and
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for that one for Cheap Trick. I was off to
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the right for Zezy top. This gal who goes to
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all cheap trick shows. I mean, I've ran it in
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or through some of our Sweet Emotion shows down on
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Lincoln City, which is five hours from here. And you
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know her and her husband just always go to these shows.
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But her husband is not a cheap trick fan.
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Oh wow.
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And so I saw this gap there in the center,
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so I just kind of moved over. I said, I
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just want to take a picture. And her husband said, now, man,
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where's your seat that? And I said it's down there,
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and he goes, I'll go sit there you Oh wow.
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So I was dead center for Friz easy Top, right
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in front of Billy. And I gotta tell you, other
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than the songs from Eliminator, which are so multi track
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that I understand why they have to play with tracks
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everything else, that band was playing live, how I was
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playing live. The drummer was, And again no disrespect to
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Dusty or Frank, but I felt like Billy was getting
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a kick out of playing with these younger pressure guys
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who have a lot of energy. Yeah, and you saw.
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That was the other thing too, was just seeing I
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had to look it up, like I thought Billy was
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like eighty years old. Just because they've been around since
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late sixty nine ers. You know, Billy's a year younger
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than Rick Nielsen.
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Oh wow, he just looks older.
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And Billy though, I mean he's he's moving around, you know,
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he's he's he's kneeling down and he's a little spry,
399
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you know Rick. Rick can't do that, And like I said,
400
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it just breaks my heart for Rick.
401
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I noticed in your video he was hunched over a
402
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little bit, and when I saw him, it's probably been
403
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three years ago when they were up here at the casino. Yeah,
404
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:36.880
he looked slower. But so that leads to I guess
405
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the subject of the podcast, And my question is, so
406
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now you're down to Billy.
407
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In zzy top is it?
408
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So?
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When when should a band give it up? Should they
410
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ever give it up?
411
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When I went to see Foreigner here in Enid, they
412
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were supposed to have I can't of course Jones Minke
413
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Jones was supposed to.
414
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Be with him.
415
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For some reason, he did not make it. So I
416
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watched an entire band with not one member off of
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Foreigner four.
418
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You know, I mean foreigners unique, Foreigners unique. I mean
419
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they're out there foreigners unique because yeah, there's not one
420
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original member. However, don't they sound great?
421
00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:31.880
They said great?
422
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:35.400
But I guess I get it. I get that more.
423
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You play in in tribute bands.
424
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Yeah, I mean it is a it is a tribute band.
425
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I mean there's yeah, there's kind of no getting around that.
426
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And Once Mixed Gone that is a tribute band. But
427
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they're a tribute band. Who you pay? They play big
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places in charge.
429
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That's I guess. That's my point is should they be
430
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able to get away? You guys can't get away.
431
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:04.119
Yeah, you guys can't get away with charging because you
432
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.960
guys aren't using the copyrighted trademark name. Just because they
433
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:12.799
get to use a trademark name, they're getting to put
434
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the prices and the venues.
435
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:16.599
And I don't know, I I.
436
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:23.160
That isn't this your question? But Mick Jones is behind that. Yeah,
437
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.000
I want you guys to carry on. I get this
438
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.119
much of a percentage of every single show carry on?
439
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You know?
440
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Yeah?
441
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And I know it comes down to it comes down
442
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to the people paying the money, because if people are
443
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gonna pay the But the thing is, so, if people
444
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are gonna pay the money and buy the tickets, then
445
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they're just going to keep performing. But then you get
446
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into somebody like David Lee Roth. You paid your money
447
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:51.960
and then the dude can't sing, so.
448
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You know, I'm just and.
449
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Then there's that. So that's let's go with that. Because
450
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I saw someone today say, you know, as soon as
451
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I mean, it was within minutes of the announcement of
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Frank's passing ZZ or ZZ, Billy just needs to call
453
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it today And I don't know, No, Billy has the
454
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:24.440
right and only Billy has the right to say I'm done.
455
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You sitting behind your phone or your computer screen don't
456
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have the right to tell him he needs to go home.
457
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That's what keeps him alive.
458
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Yeah, now see I agree with that because he was
459
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the front man, the songwriter, the singer, the guitar player.
460
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:47.359
It's not like the hidden bass player or drummer is
461
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:48.799
the only left in the band.
462
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.480
Eazy Top was very much a three guy band. I mean,
463
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:58.039
it's like it's like Rush where that's three dudes. But
464
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if if you really break down ZZ Top, they couldn't
465
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do it if Billy died, correct and the other two
466
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.359
were still alive. But with Billy upfront, I think they
467
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.640
can still do it. And I don't again for the
468
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third time, don't mean it as disrespect to Dusty and Frank.
469
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It just Billy is the face and the voice. Other
470
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than the few songs that Dusty saying which they didn't
471
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play to USh, you know, Billy can still do it.
472
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Billy can still do it, and it was a great show.
473
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And but also when it comes to davidly Roth, I agree.
474
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I mean, I trust me. Van Halen was huge in
475
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my world, and you know it's still are. I still
476
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:53.519
go back to those records and I absolutely love them.
477
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.519
And I think Dave was one of the best frontmen
478
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.359
of all time, still holds that title, one of the
479
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best front men of all time. I agree with you.
480
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:05.119
There people say, oh, Dave could never sing that bullshit. Yeah,
481
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Dave could sing. It's just that Michael Anthony had the high, swaring,
482
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:13.799
high voice, you know, and Dave had character and the charisma.
483
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.079
And what I see now when I see Dave, it's
484
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:24.039
like I have never heard anyone's voice change that much
485
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:28.759
to where it's unrecognizable from the guy I grew up on.
486
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.920
It's pretty bad, especially when people isolate and they do
487
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.279
the video where his voice is just isolated.
488
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.960
But do we have the right to tell David Lee Roth,
489
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.759
you need to go home and quit. No, that's what
490
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.480
that's Dave's passion. That's what he's done his whole life.
491
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That's who he is. That's who They're not the right
492
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.240
to tell him when to stop. You can just not
493
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.079
go to the show.
494
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.039
I guess that's I guess that's yeah.
495
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I guess that's what I'm kind of alluding to, is
496
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if we don't want to put up with and it's happening,
497
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.839
I think, you know, sometimes these guys are canceling tours
498
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.519
because ticket sales aren't what they thought they were going
499
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:08.759
to be.
500
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But here's a here's a listen real quick.
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Rod Stewart eighty one canceled the show after following falling
502
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.519
on stage and later needed oxygen. Lionel Ritchie had to
503
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:22.920
cancel performance after falling in the middle of the concert.
504
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.160
Neil Young canceled concerts because of fatigue. Slash of Guns
505
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.279
N' Roses fell backwards on stage during concert in Paris.
506
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.440
Not that Slash is really as old as some of
507
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.680
these other guys, yeah, but.
508
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.720
I mean it's just it's kind of like, how long
509
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:39.119
are some of these guys going to.
510
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Go on now?
511
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.839
But then there and to me, It kind of depends
512
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on the music too. To me, I'm not real happy
513
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with a David Lee Roth show.
514
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:50.160
Now.
515
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If he's doing David Lee Roth songs, fine, but him
516
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:54.839
trying to do Van Halen.
517
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But he does have a right, Yes he does lyric
518
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on those.
519
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:10.880
Yeah, and and but I but just don't go yeah.
520
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.759
See See what I'm thinking is it depends on the music.
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00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:17.839
Because James Taylor, who is getting really up there, his.
522
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Concert was fantastic, but so he never.
523
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.720
He's always been a guy that sat on the stool
524
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.680
whether he was young or old, and he and.
525
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:32.720
He's always sang within James Taylor's reign exactly. He didn't.
526
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.000
And same thing with Tom Petty. Tom Petty was great
527
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.599
right up to the end. I know he'll change the
528
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.440
keys on a couple songs, but for the most part,
529
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.279
Tom was himself right up to the end. Because Tom never.
530
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.599
This thing happened in the eighties where every producer said,
531
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.119
where's the top of your rings? Okay, sing there, that's
532
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.519
that's where you're gonna sing for this entire record, and
533
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:56.599
all of these.
534
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:02.039
You know bands that we're so popular in the eighties,
535
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:05.759
it's hard in hell for them to pull that off
536
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:12.640
anymore because you know, the mid sixties, mid seventies, and
537
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:19.480
voices change. Yeah, it's impossible to maintain that. And so
538
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.880
you sounding terrible. I mean, but you know, like I said, Dave,
539
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.319
I've never heard anybody's sports change. Like it just doesn't
540
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.960
sound like Dave anymore. Sammy still sounds like Sammy. But
541
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.920
Sammy always had that range.
542
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.799
But do we have the right to say, I don't know.
543
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.920
You see it all the time, you know, people people
544
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.720
they disliked the bitch. It isn't it could be anything,
545
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.680
you know, yeah, it could be anything. But it's like,
546
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:55.119
you know, I saw people already got conspiracy theories about
547
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.839
Hayden Pantereery dying and I'm like, could just knock it off?
548
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:04.079
Your girlhad That was really sad to me because I've
549
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:10.240
you know, I mean from from Remember the Titans to
550
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:17.039
Heroes to you know, Nashville and some other stuff I've watched.
551
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:19.079
I kind of felt like I watched that girl grow
552
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.279
up six.
553
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.839
Yeah, but she started so young. Everybody did watch.
554
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:30.400
Her grow up, all right. I mean, it's that was shocking, wow,
555
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.240
But I wasn't as shocked when I saw Frank past
556
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.720
I just didn't expect it to be so soon because
557
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.200
you know, I said, I go, I don't think Franks
558
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:47.640
are coming back, you know. And but yeah, but back
559
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.000
to the subject, I mean, who else is on your lists?
560
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:54.599
Well now, now, one that I'll give kudos to is Sticks.
561
00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:00.000
I saw Stick several years ago, and Stick sounds fantast
562
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:03.480
I mean, I think they've got like at least three
563
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.279
original members, if not four.
564
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.800
Sometimes I think they only have no. I think they
565
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:15.320
only have j Why and Tommy, and Tommy isn't even
566
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.280
an original member. But I mean he's been there since
567
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.039
seventy six or whatever, so he that that counts to me.
568
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:26.679
But yeah, but the guy that sounds just like Dennis
569
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.039
de Young is not Dennis de Young. You know, he
570
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.320
just sounds exactly like Ye.
571
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.599
Yeah, No, Dennis is definitely not. But when they were
572
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.480
in Enid, a third guy came out on stage.
573
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:40.960
It wasn't it might have been.
574
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:42.880
It was kind of like a special deal.
575
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.239
They were like, you know, he it wasn't like he
576
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.519
traveled with him all the time, but he just happened
577
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:49.760
to be there, and so he came.
578
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.159
Out, probably Chuck Benazo, the bass player, probably, so I
579
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.320
think he does join them from time to time, but
580
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.039
he and his brother were the rhythm section in that band,
581
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:04.159
and his brother passed away. He retired several years ago,
582
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.960
but I think he does come out from time to time.
583
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.440
But yeah, the reason it works for Stix is just
584
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:15.559
like Journey. You know that guy sounds I think his
585
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.480
name is Lawrence Gowan. He sounds just like Dennis de
586
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:26.320
Young or you mean or no, yeah, no, Lawrence count
587
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:27.239
sounds just like Denniste.
588
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.119
Oh, I thought you were talking about Journey.
589
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.480
No, no, no, I just meant that, just like Journey
590
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.079
having a guy who, yeah, sounds like that. He's not that,
591
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.719
not that he sounds just like Steve Perry, but he's
592
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.280
sitting all those notes. Yeah, you're hearing the songs sound
593
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.280
the way they should sound. He sounds enough like Perry.
594
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.119
Yeah, I was. I was a little disappointed. Kansas came
595
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:56.519
and we were huge Kansas fans, and they had one.
596
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.480
Only one member, and it was the kind of heavy
597
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.079
bearded guy that plays guitar. He was the only original
598
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.719
member and he had his guitar like on a stand
599
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.199
and and wasn't even like holding it.
600
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:13.679
He had to play the guitar while it was on
601
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:14.320
a stand.
602
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:19.480
So bad that's yeah, yeah, which you know.
603
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:21.519
I mean, I feel bad for him, but I guess
604
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.840
it's just it's kind of like when you get to
605
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.760
that point, you know, should you really be out there
606
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.920
charging money?
607
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:30.880
I don't, I don't know. I mean that's why I'm
608
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:32.679
tossing the good again.
609
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.280
I think they have every right to do it and
610
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.119
charge the money as much as you have the right
611
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:47.400
to not go correct. It's just it. I just don't think. Yeah,
612
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.599
that's I seriously believe with a lot of these guys,
613
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.039
that's what's keeping them alive.
614
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:55.639
Yeah, that's straight.
615
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.440
They stop, they stop, go home, sit down, get place,
616
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:07.039
and yeah, there's sting. There's sting. Now hacked are gonna
617
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:07.800
live out there?
618
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:09.679
Well have you seen Frankie Valley?
619
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:14.440
I haven't seen frank a long time. I heard last
620
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.960
week that he retired. Then I heard him just yesterday
621
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:18.639
say I don't know what you heard, why you heard it,
622
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:20.239
But I haven't far from retired.
623
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.360
He is like a zombie. It's so weird to watch
624
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.199
him up there on stage. But again, I guess if
625
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.880
people were going to pay the price of the tickets
626
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.719
and go see him, then I guess more power.
627
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:39.360
Yeah, I saw the Temptations, you know, and I mean
628
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.519
we were talking about this last week. I you know,
629
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.000
I saw the Temptations and Notice was the only one there.
630
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:48.320
And Notice was kind of slow and moving around, but
631
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.679
he's the one everybody yelled for. You know, they are
632
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.800
just happy. You know. I talked to people because you know,
633
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.599
although I never say they need to just pack it
634
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.840
up and go home, you know, I'll talk to some
635
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.039
of my Cheap Trick friends and say, oh, it's just
636
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.119
you know, Tell, they're really struggling, and you know it's
637
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:16.360
getting harder to go see shows, not just because it's
638
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:20.880
hard to watch my musical, you know, my childhood heroes,
639
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:26.039
you know kind of struggle like that. But you know,
640
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.960
my friends at the Cheap Trick shows, they got a
641
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.840
great you know, like I said, some of them see
642
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:33.119
one hundred and fifty shows.
643
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:35.679
Yeah, that's crazy, and they're.
644
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.000
Like, look, man, they're not going to be around much longer.
645
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.079
I was going to say, well, so what if I
646
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:42.039
want to see as many as I can while I can,
647
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.480
and say I was. I was with them the whole time,
648
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.239
and I totally get that.
649
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.199
What if what if Nielsen or Xander one one or
650
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.159
the other, and then it doesn't work, got replaced.
651
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:54.400
Are you still going to see him?
652
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.280
Well, I will tell you this, I'm going to replace
653
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.760
Rick Nielson one day. There you go, and then it'll
654
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:02.280
be okay.
655
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:03.480
That would be cool.
656
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:11.360
Actually I was backstage about about ten years ago and
657
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.280
Robin remembered me because they used to be in a
658
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.639
Cheap Trick Trigger band. They were well aware of who
659
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.360
we were at the time. And I played Rick you know,
660
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.679
and Robin goes, hey, you still know all the songs
661
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.320
and I said, yeah, he goes, I might be calling
662
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:25.840
you someday.
663
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:27.519
So that's too funny.
664
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:32.360
So I told my my friend Tracy, she runs the
665
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.559
drummer of Rick's son. She runs his whole fan club thing.
666
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.719
I said, hey, tell them a Rick every wants to
667
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.559
just stay home. I'm I'm still up for it, you know,
668
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.639
But I mean half joking. But at the same time, yeah, man,
669
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:51.760
you know, at the Cheap Trick show, I got to
670
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.159
hang out with my buddy I haven't seen a while.
671
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:56.639
He's the drummer for the Beach Boys. Now why not? Yeah? Yeah,
672
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:58.840
he grew up loving the Beach Boys. I grew up
673
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.639
loving Cheap Trick. Why not?
674
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.599
Why not put you on guitar and let you play
675
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.800
the songs and let Rick wander around the stage throwing
676
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:07.920
picks out in the audience.
677
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:13.280
Well that's the other thing, Buddy, Rick grabbed a handful
678
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.039
of picks, uh huh, and he used to sail back
679
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:21.119
to like the fifteenth row. Seriously, with a handful of picks.
680
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.800
He would go back to like the fifteenth row. He
681
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.079
didn't even make it to the barrier.
682
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:27.960
Oh no.
683
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:31.239
I mean literally, we're all we're all standing right there
684
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.079
at the barrier at the front of the stage, and
685
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:40.599
not one the security guard just such a cool dude
686
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:43.440
just went through there and just picked them all up
687
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.559
and went down the front of the barrier and gave
688
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.039
us all a pick. I mean, it's like my twenty
689
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:53.920
pick I got. But it was still cool. But it's like, yeah,
690
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:56.039
you know, but you know, poor guy. I mean, I
691
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.360
think he's got a torn rotator cuff. I think he's
692
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:02.159
got nick and back shoes, and you know, I mean
693
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.199
I feel for him. I love the guy, and he's
694
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.320
one of my favorite guitar players and one of my
695
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:12.639
favorite songwriters. But I think what I think a big
696
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.360
part of what's going on with Rick is like picture
697
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.480
Rick from nineteen seventy seven. You know, the seventies. What
698
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:25.119
was he doing? He was not just and he used
699
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.119
to wear wrestling shoes which aren't don't Yeah, because I
700
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.440
wore too when I when I played him, you know,
701
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.480
I wore the same shoes, wrestling shoes, absolutely no support.
702
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.199
And he wouldn't just jump off things. He would leap
703
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:46.159
and just come flat down. So I seriously think that
704
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:47.079
years of that.
705
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:49.559
Have just.
706
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.480
Brutalized his body. Yeah, you know, he is paying now
707
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.079
for what he did in the seventies.
708
00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:59.840
Yeah, and I'm sure a lot of his guitars are
709
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:01.920
are heavy, heavy, heavy.
710
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:03.599
He doesn't play the five neck anymore.
711
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:04.519
Oh really?
712
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.440
Wow? Yeah? Yeah, I mean there was there was a
713
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:11.079
video going around a few months ago where he dropped it.
714
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.000
It fell off his shoulder and he could not get
715
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:18.280
it back up off onto his shoulder. I mean that's
716
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:26.119
so if Robin's gone, it doesn't work. I mean, I
717
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:30.760
personally think without Rick it doesn't work. But hey, if
718
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.760
someone saying, hey, Todd, you want to play guitar for
719
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.679
Rick Nielsen, yes, thank you very much. I will. I
720
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.599
will take that gig and I will do it. And
721
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.079
you know, I learned how to play from him, so
722
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.519
I know how to do that. There'd be a lot
723
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:51.760
of guitar players that could do it, you know, a
724
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.679
thousands of them, But do they have that that Rick
725
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:01.800
Nielsen thing, you know, that looseness and that that thing
726
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.519
that Rick had. You know, I feel like that's all
727
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.840
a big part of how I play, just because I
728
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.079
learned how to play from Rick, you know. Yeah, Well,
729
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.119
it's one of the reasons I don't have a problem
730
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:20.760
with Dax. Their drummer, which is Rick's son, Bunny Carlos,
731
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:24.320
is my favorite drumm of all time. And even though
732
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.280
there is this depth that's missing since Money's been gone,
733
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:35.920
this just fat. This's just enormous drum sound that's missing,
734
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.599
the feel of the band is the same, and so
735
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.639
I just I don't have a problem with him. You know. Yeah,
736
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.599
he seems like a super cool dude. I've met him.
737
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.639
He's a cool dude. But but when numbers come in
738
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.719
and they change the sound of the band, that's where
739
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.000
it sucks. And that's that's why it'd be hard to replace.
740
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:02.960
Robin is. Even though he's not quite what he used
741
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:09.199
to be, he's not he's still Yeah, he still sounds
742
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.159
like Robin Sander. Yeah, you know, and you know, having
743
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.000
his son up on stage too, because Robin's son is
744
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.199
there also, Uh we have they're a five man band
745
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:26.880
now at least as a touring unity and entity. And
746
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:34.519
he covers for Rick and Robin. I mean he I
747
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.320
was standing right in front of him for the Cheap
748
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.199
Tricks that I was like, yeah, dude knows the songs. Man.
749
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.920
He's you know, he's he's got this down and he's
750
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:44.760
kind of coming to his own now, which is great
751
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.000
because he's so used to before he was kind of
752
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.559
the shy kid. Now he's he's really coming to He's
753
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.400
he's stilling picks at girls, cleaving to funny. It's like
754
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:56.559
doing what Rick used to do, and and they're looking
755
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:58.880
around and he's looking at going that was me, that
756
00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.199
was me.
757
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:01.280
Funny.
758
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.800
But I used to have a problem with him being
759
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:06.920
in the band, but I really see the importance of
760
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.280
him being in the band now is he covers for
761
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.440
Robin vocally, he sings right along with him to you know,
762
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.840
keep the vocals tight, and he plays the songs really
763
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:25.400
well and helps cover for you know, Rick and I
764
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:32.159
just don't Cheap Tricks are not gonna stop until one
765
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.719
of them dies on stage, or until until Rick or
766
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.639
Robin passed. And they've already done it without Tom, They've
767
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:47.280
done it without Bunny. And I happened to see the
768
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.000
only show in fifty years that Robin Zander wasn't at.
769
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.559
There's only been one show in fifty years that Robin
770
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.920
Xander didn't make the show when it happened to be there,
771
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:07.920
and that was that was wild, yeah, because you know, look,
772
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.280
I don't have the I don't have a Robin Xander voice,
773
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.840
but I got some grit empowered to my voice. And
774
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.599
a buddy of mine text me said, Robin Xander is
775
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.719
not going to be there, and I said, Rick, tell
776
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:19.440
them I can do it. I can do it, you know.
777
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.639
I don't have Robin Xander's but I can do this,
778
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.159
you know. And they said, he just joked, hahaha, didn't
779
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:33.679
tell him. They ended up bringing out, like, you know,
780
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:41.320
like eight different singers from local Seattle bands, and none
781
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:45.760
of them knew the damn song. No, They're all holding
782
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.840
pieces of paper in their hand and trying to sing
783
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.280
the song like you don't even know the songs man.
784
00:46:54.159 --> 00:47:01.159
But but and this was just awesome. Is for dream
785
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.760
police they brought out I don't know where she came from.
786
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.159
I don't know who whose child it was, but they
787
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.719
brought out a twelve year old Oh wow, and she sang,
788
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:14.679
she sang dream Police. She didn't have no lyrics sheet.
789
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.920
She sang every word, and she did it with fire
790
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:25.360
and was total stage charisma. I was just so impressed
791
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.840
that right there was was worth it seeing the you know,
792
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.079
only show in fifty years that Robin didn't make it.
793
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.840
His house was in danger. It was a hurricane in Florida,
794
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.039
so I gotta go. I gotta go. And they were
795
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:41.719
opening for Heart. Oh no, they were opening for a foreigner,
796
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:48.320
and yeah, it was. It was pretty amazing not watching
797
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.599
that girl do that. But I've seen Cheap Trick and
798
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:55.000
shows too where I went all the way over to
799
00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:02.840
spoke hands five hours. This was back in probably Oh,
800
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.440
I know exactly what it was. It was. It was
801
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.000
ly late July of twenty one because my stepfather had
802
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.800
just passed. I saw them three days that week. The
803
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:21.519
first night I was walking into Cheap Trick when I
804
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.599
got the call that my stepfather just died. Oh wow,
805
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:30.920
which is really odd because twenty three years or earlier.
806
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.360
The day I met him was the day I heard
807
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.760
cheap Trick for the first time. Oh wow, not from me,
808
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:41.920
not from him, but you know, he took us up
809
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:45.519
to this campsite where my cousins were at and this guy,
810
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.000
this guy said, hey, one of my sisters sit in
811
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:49.440
the car, and I jumped in the car and he
812
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:51.119
played cheap Trick and I was like, who is this?
813
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.280
Who is this? And so yeah, I was like, so
814
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.400
cheap Trick also kind of bookends my relationship with my stepfather.
815
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.239
So I saw him three three nights that week and
816
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.280
saw him in Portland, which is when I got the
817
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:11.440
call by my stepfather. So that was July twenty third.
818
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:16.440
And then I saw them two days later in Seattle,
819
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:23.639
and Bunny was gone during this time, and Rick soon
820
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:30.000
was just filling in for the first time. And then
821
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.199
we went all the way out Spokane to see them
822
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:38.079
at a speedway and the show starts, and right away
823
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:42.440
you could tell something's up with Robin. You know, his
824
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:51.519
voice is shot and about three songs and he's looking
825
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:55.800
over at Rick and he's just doing the the hand
826
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.360
across the neck like I am done. I can't do this,
827
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.159
and Rick is pacing back and forth. I mean his
828
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:08.039
his usual stage. You know, back then he was still
829
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.880
running around. It wasn't his usual racing around the stage.
830
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:14.920
It was it was pacing like, oh shit, what do
831
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.079
we do? What do we do? What do we do?
832
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.599
And he would call out songs to Robin, and Robin
833
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:28.280
would just give the new do it. And and so
834
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.800
they tried to play a ballad that was off there.
835
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:34.800
It's called Shelter. It's about losing parents. So that was
836
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.559
really heavy for me. I remember that. It was just
837
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.519
it was about all of them. It was written about
838
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.599
them losing their parents. Right around that same time, well
839
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:47.760
ninety seven is when that song came out. And and
840
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:53.199
for whatever reason, Tom Peterson just couldn't remember this song.
841
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.360
Oh wow, And and Rick kept walking over. I mean,
842
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.679
so Robin's having trouble singing, and Rick's walking over showing
843
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:02.800
Tom how to sing the song.
844
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:03.960
Oh Man.
845
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.039
And the opening band on that that for Chief Trick
846
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:13.320
along that tour was Rick's other son, Miles and his band.
847
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.559
So they brought Miles up to help us out. Man.
848
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:25.519
But Miles didn't know the songs at great and he
849
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:30.519
also doesn't sing like Robin Xander. And there was this
850
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.920
great father son moment because Miles came down. You could
851
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.800
tell he was nervous, and he had his he had
852
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:38.800
his head down, kind of doing the Seattle singer thing
853
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:43.599
with his head down. And that's just not how the
854
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.480
Midwesterners do it, you know what I mean, either're from Chicago,
855
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.559
you don't do that here. And and Rick just stuck
856
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.639
his fingers in his mouth and whistled really loud. Miles
857
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.400
looked over, and Rick just tapped his he tapped his
858
00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:58.599
hand under his chin.
859
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.079
Like shut up, yeah, to stay.
860
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:04.559
It was this great father son moment, and Miles just
861
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.079
snapped into it. But they only made it through like
862
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:11.039
two more songs and then so Rick finally just stepped
863
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:13.920
up to the mic and goes, look, you're not seeing
864
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:20.800
cheap trick. We were really sorry, but we gotta go. Well,
865
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.960
we'll make it up to you. And they left the stage.
866
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.920
They played like five songs. Yeah, and there were people
867
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:29.360
that were so pissed off.
868
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.960
Yeah, but nah, you can't be pissed off.
869
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:34.599
It was only twenty dollars to go to that show.
870
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.440
I mean, yeah, we drove five hours. It's only twenty
871
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:39.360
dollars to get that show. And I remember looking at
872
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.880
my friend who was bitching, and I went, when have
873
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.800
you ever seen cheap Trick train wreck like that? It
874
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:51.039
was never and you got to see it. Yeah, I
875
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:53.840
just paid twenty dollars to see cheap Trick train Wreck.
876
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:55.440
I've got a story. Yeah, you got a.
877
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.000
Story because they've never done it, you know. I mean
878
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:03.199
they were at that time, they were just like a locomotive.
879
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:08.719
I mean they kicked ass every time. And so to
880
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:13.320
see that, I was like, yeah, I'll pay twenty bucks
881
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.800
to see that. That's the that that's really rare. Yeah
882
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.400
that was cool and yeah, yeah, I've had a lot
883
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.880
of weird, weird experiences with you, chick over the years.
884
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.719
Yeah, well you've seeing a lot.
885
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.920
Of weird stuff. So seeing that often page stuff and
886
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:35.199
stuff that's happen on stage and transformers blowing and ending
887
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:39.440
the show, it's just like, yeah, I've seen all kinds
888
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.000
of kind of shows that are considered like oh wow,
889
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.400
you're right that show they're all for whatever is and
890
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:46.719
they happen out here, you know.
891
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:52.800
Yeah, But so are there are there any seventies bands
892
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:57.760
out there right now that you're wanting to see, Like
893
00:53:57.840 --> 00:53:59.960
a eat, when's I have you seen the Eagles?
894
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:00.239
Well?
895
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:04.039
And you know, I never have seen the egos and
896
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:10.119
and sure I would go. I would go, but kind
897
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:18.000
of since Glenn's gone, you know, it's just I would go. Absolutely,
898
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:20.800
I would go. I would go see a C d C.
899
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:30.360
I've never seen a C d C unfortunately, but I
900
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.480
don't know of any others that are really touring that.
901
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:40.760
I've seen Sticks several times, Frantom several times.
902
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:46.760
I'm kind of hoping that Lindsay and.
903
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.320
Yeah, me too, I would like to see that. I've
904
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:55.599
never seen Fleetwood Mac, but I've seen Lindsay like four times.
905
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:57.920
I would definitely go see that.
906
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.960
What am I trying to say? Lindsay and Stevie.
907
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.360
Stevie Yeah, if they yeah, and if it's just those two,
908
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:08.320
I would go see those two just as those in
909
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:09.239
a heartbeat.
910
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.920
Sure, but I think it would be Fleetwood Mac. I mean,
911
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.079
and someone was saying, how could you possibly tour without
912
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.559
Christy mcviee, It's like, well, do you remember that time
913
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.199
where Christy mcveee retired for like twelve years and Fleetwood
914
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:25.039
Mac went on and toured and made albums without her.
915
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:31.599
It'd be like that, you know, I mean, it's they've
916
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.400
done it. They've done it, they've done it without Lindsay.
917
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.079
They've you know, Stevie seems to be the one who
918
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:41.519
throws a fit every time they say we're going on
919
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.199
tour whether you want to or not, And she's like,
920
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:46.800
you do it with happening and I'll sue. Yeah, So
921
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.239
that was the whole issue with her and Lindsay. But
922
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.519
I think you know they're they made up now and
923
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:56.199
things seem to be good, and yeah, Lindsay said, yeah,
924
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.400
I can see what's going on tour again.
925
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:01.719
Yeah, and that would definitely be the one I think
926
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:03.039
that I would want to see.
927
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:05.599
Yeah, I would. I would definitely want to go see them.
928
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:09.519
Like I said, I've seen Lindsay four times. I've seen
929
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:12.760
him solo acoustic, I've seen him with a ten piece band.
930
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:18.719
I've seen always. Lindsay's just he's a freaking nature. He's
931
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:23.880
just amazing to watch. Yeah, there's no way that that's
932
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:27.719
one guy playing guitar and he's got somebody behind the stage, Like, no, man,
933
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.760
it's all in those fingers. He's doing it all.
934
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:32.840
Yeah. Have you seen any of his videos.
935
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.119
He's been putting out videos where he has one of
936
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.519
his kids right and they'll they'll mention a song or
937
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.199
something and he'll sit there and show how he played it,
938
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:42.880
and it's it's cool.
939
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:48.360
Yeah, yeah, it's it's just good to see him healthy
940
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:49.840
again because I don't know if you remember, but he
941
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.719
had a heart issue a few years ago. Yeah, it
942
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.639
was kind of scary. So to see him back and
943
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:59.920
being healthy and working again making music is like a
944
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:06.000
good yeah, because yeah, Louis Mac, I'd love to see
945
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:13.000
the Eagles a CDC. I can't really think of anybody
946
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.039
else from that era that I haven't seen that, you know,
947
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:20.559
that's that's still in a state that I would want
948
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.039
to see, like like like you know, Fog had this one.
949
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:28.239
It's the drummer, you know, Yeah, Grand funk is melon
950
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:33.039
Don But to me, I try to stay away from
951
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.440
that too, like you know no, yeah, you know, no
952
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:41.559
Steve Perry, no Journey, no no, no, you know, well
953
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.480
like no Foreigner.
954
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:46.320
Yeah, there's nobody left in Leonard Skinnard is there, and
955
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:47.599
I think they're ring.
956
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:50.119
The only way they get away with it is like
957
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:52.719
before the band made an album, Ricky Medlock was in
958
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:56.880
the band for a while as their drummer, but then
959
00:57:56.920 --> 00:58:01.840
he left and and they went on came successful, and
960
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:03.920
now he's back in the band as a guitar player.
961
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:05.880
So I think that's there like way, I'm I'm an
962
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:10.360
original original member, but but no, it's not. And it's
963
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.760
would I pay big money to go see Skinner? No,
964
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:18.320
you know, would I pay? I've seen Foreigner a couple
965
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.320
of times, so, you know, and I, like I said,
966
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.800
I was really I was okay with it. I saw
967
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:28.400
them with Mick though, well no, yeah, that's alng with
968
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:32.519
Mick both times, and and that was great because it
969
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:37.199
was Mick, you know. But here's the thing about no
970
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.480
Lou Graham, no Foreigner. You know the people who say
971
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:42.960
those things, Yeah, no Lou Graham, no Foreigner, no Steve Perry,
972
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:43.559
no Journey.
973
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:48.920
You know, if no Steve watsh no Kansas.
974
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:53.760
If Lou Graham was in Foreigner right now, those same
975
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:59.800
people would be saying, what happened to louke Graham? He
976
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.119
needs to go home, pack it up. And Lou knows that.
977
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:09.760
And Steve definitely knows that. Steve Perry knows that he's
978
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:14.000
not the Steve Perry you remember, Yeah, and he knows
979
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:17.559
that if he goes and rejoins Journey and goes on stage,
980
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:21.039
people are going to be vicious because yeah, sure, I'm
981
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:24.599
sure Steve has a great voice still, but he's not
982
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.039
going to sound like Steve Perry that you remember and
983
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:34.199
you think that forty years hasn't deteriorated. It's hard on
984
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:40.199
a singer, and those same people would be complaining, you know,
985
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.320
if those members were back. It's still the same reason
986
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:46.880
Robert Plant won't do a led Zeppelin reunion. He knows
987
00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:50.880
he can't be the Robert Plant you want him to be. Yeah,
988
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.360
so he chooses to do a different genre of music.
989
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:55.000
Yeah, which is cool.
990
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:55.280
Now.
991
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.320
See that's kind of cool is seeing an artist because
992
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:02.320
you get to see the art, but they're not disappointing
993
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.519
you with a bad version of their songs.
994
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.719
Well, it's like Paul Stanley doing Soul Station. He's doing
995
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:12.320
all these soul songs. Yeah, I mean he does classic
996
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:14.760
soul songs and he also wrote five soul songs for
997
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.039
that album. And it's much more in his vocal range.
998
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:20.360
That's that that is easy for him to sing where
999
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:22.920
he's not doing kiss stuff and screaming. That's why Kiss
1000
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:26.199
came to an end is Paul knew it's it's done.
1001
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:29.440
I'm going to embarrass myself if I go on any farther,
1002
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.480
you know, And some said he already was embarrassing himself,
1003
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:38.039
but you know it, so you know that's what I means. Like,
1004
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:41.239
when they decide it's time to stop, that's when it
1005
01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:45.559
should stop. Otherwise we have the right to not go. Yeah,
1006
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:49.280
David Lee Roth was here a couple months ago. I
1007
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:54.400
didn't go, you know, I I wouldn't go. Yeah, I don't.
1008
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:56.320
I don't want to see that. You know, I saw
1009
01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:02.360
Dave back in two thousand to two thousand, Yeah, about
1010
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:04.920
two thousand and two, two thousand and three. I mean
1011
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:09.559
it was fantastic back then, you know, but you know
1012
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:16.159
that was twenty three years ago, right, So yeah, I
1013
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:20.400
mean it's it is what it is. But you know,
1014
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.639
I just don't think we have the right to say
1015
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.840
Motley krue gets horribly just quit already.
1016
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.559
Yeah stop like he Well you guys, yeah.
1017
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:35.679
People fill in this stadium, aren't you know, they're not
1018
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:39.880
They seem to be enjoying it. You know, let's let
1019
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:40.559
them enjoy it.
1020
01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:43.559
Yeah, Well, everybody listening.
1021
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:46.000
Let us know what you guys think. What do you guys,
1022
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:49.079
you guys get going to the concerts. Let us know,
1023
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:53.559
like if you guys have gone to one that disappointed you,
1024
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:56.880
or if you've gone to one that was like like
1025
01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:59.719
when we went to James Taylor was like really good
1026
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.440
and you're like, oh wow, I wasn't expecting that.
1027
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:03.800
So let us know.
1028
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:05.920
Oh, I got a new hang on real quick. I
1029
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.840
got a new phone number. We got a Buzzhead hotline.
1030
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:10.760
And let me.
1031
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:13.679
I got it right here somewhere.
1032
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:17.320
Uh, you guys hit us up at six oh one
1033
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:21.920
five six eighty. That is the new Buzzhead Hotline or
1034
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.719
buzz a busheadmedia dot com and give us some feedback
1035
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.840
on the episode. Let me know about the intro, what
1036
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:32.800
you guys want to do with the intro? And well,
1037
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:35.239
I guess I'm gonna let you go Christopher Todd.
1038
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:41.840
And see your raider. She Uh, I missed that guy, and.
1039
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:44.599
I didn't want to didn't want to jump into it.
1040
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:47.360
I went to Callahan's last night and I literally just
1041
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:49.280
got up and left. I was like, this is just
1042
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:49.920
not working.
1043
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:55.280
So yeah, yeah, well let's keep that alive. Rader.
1044
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:58.039
Okay, see yeah, all right, brother, I love you, man,
1045
01:02:58.159 --> 01:02:58.519
I love you.
1046
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:01.639
Bye.
1047
01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:07.320
Okay, you guys hit us up buzza Buzzheadmedia dot com
1048
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.000
or like I said six oh one five six eight,
1049
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:12.760
twenty two twenty is the new buzzhead hotline.
1050
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.119
We would love to hear some feedback from you.
1051
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:19.639
Guys on these bands and singers that just continue to
1052
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:20.360
go on and on.
1053
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:24.079
Is it something you're gonna pay pay high ticket prices
1054
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:24.159
to
1055
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:26.679
Go see or not, but let us know and appreciate
1056
01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:28.039
you're gonna get out of here CEO