Jeff Bridges for MPTF

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Phil and David encourage everyone to support the Motion Picture
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and Television Fund. The Lights Camera Take Action Telethon for
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MPTF is airing December eighth on KTLA and Los Angeles
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and can be seen on KTLA dot com. So this
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week we're airing our episodes for MPTF first Lights, Camera
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take Action. Here's Naked Lunch with Jeff Bridges.
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Phil, I want to start off by saying, congratulations. Since
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we last spoke to the good people, you became a
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New York Times best selling author. And it's good because
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I already was one, and I've always looked down on
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you and was slightly ashamed to be seen with you,
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and now I've gotten past that.
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Should we change the name of the show.
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Best selling Naked Lunch?
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Yes, best selling naked authors exactly.
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That's even more frightening. This is a very special episode today.
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Yes.
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First of all, we have one of my first favorite actor,
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and I'll tell you that story with him, Jeff Bridges,
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the best. And Jeff partly is doing this because he
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likes us, and partly because we're doing this as a
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sort of special effort. We are, Phil and I are
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producing a telethon on KTLA in Los Angeles on December tenth,
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seven to nine pm, because we're going to talk a
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lot about the Motion Picture and Television Fund, their home
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and the campus they have out here in LA but
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all the amazing work they do for the show business community,
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not just the stars, but everybody in the community. And
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he I've been working with him on projects for the
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last three weeks and he has made me so happy,
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Like talking to Jeff Bridges is one of.
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The joys of life. He's a zen master, He's a dude.
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He is the dude. Ladies and gentlemen, here's our friend,
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Jeff Bridges.
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Let's build the beans to the fat who thought jokes
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on own town, talking with mouthsful, having fun, these cake,
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humble time, serving up class lovely, the dressing all the side,
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it's naked.
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Lunch clothing option.
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I just want to tell you how meaningful it's been
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the last three weeks. I've literally been around the world
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zooming with you on a variety of projects. And my
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wife said, you are so happy when you are talking
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to Jeff Bridges.
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Yes, who wouldn't be sweet man?
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And I realized I am not a Buddhist, but there
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is something about you and We're going to get into
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how you spread that love, that a little bit of
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love can do to help a very special place to
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all of us. We're going to get into that in
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a moment. But I want to say there is something
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about you, and I think Phil agrees that just is
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the most It's very beautiful.
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Thank you man, appreciate that. I think my launch might
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be arriving and I hope. So where's your lunch? Damn well?
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Phil Will Phil is the food guy if you watch
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the show, So Phil, you told him about what we're having.
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This is a restaurant called Open Market. It's a new
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sandwich shop and breakfast place on Wiltshire. I'm having an
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absolutely fantastic chicken sandwich on a So I get beautiful.
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Can I just say how I don't know if you'll
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remember this, but I just met you a couple of
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months ago. Briefly, it was at the Mandarin Oriental You
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in New York, Columbus Circle the hotel. Oh yeah, and
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you were going to meet our friend t Bone Burnett Cory. Okay,
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so I'm friends of theirs. And then they introduced me
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to you. And what I loved about meeting you two things. First,
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you come into the Mandarin Oriental, which is a kind
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of fancy schmancy hotel, and the lounge there is a
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little fancy schmancy also, And you come in right off
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the set of Big Lebowski. You look like you from
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the movie. And I just love that. And I said,
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how's the food, And you said you weren't eating. You
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just had made You invented a coffee tea drink that
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you were enjoying. Oh, yes, you said, I invented this.
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It's a coffee tea drink. And I said, wow, you
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have that often. You said, no, it kind of just
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happened by accident, but you liked what came out of it.
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That's right. Well, I was half a finished glass a
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cup of tea. Yes, guys said can I pour some
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more coffee?
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I said, yeah, whats sure? And so now I have
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to ask you. Have you continued this?
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I can't remember.
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I just loved it because that sums you up.
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To me.
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An accident happened, and not only do you go with it,
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you like it.
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You explore, you experiment.
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Yes, but that's a philosophy of life that I love
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about you.
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Yeah, well, thank you.
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And now Jeff is coming through to help a place
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that is really special to all of us. It is
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the Motion Picture Television Fund. It is this incredible It's
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not just this amazing facility in Los Angeles, but it
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is a sort of an amazing organization that extends the
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idea of the community of show business helping one another.
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And we are all part of a telethon, Phil and
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I are helping produce. You are going to be a
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big part of it because it's called like Camera Take Action.
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It's on KTLA December tenth, seven to nine, and you
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can also watch it at the MPTF website. But Jeff,
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I want to just and very very specially among other things,
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Jeff is donating forever for decades, Jeff has been taking
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these widescreen amazing photographs that capture the community of show
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business because it's literally like a wider image. It's not
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just what's going on on the front of the camera,
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but it's what's going on in the world the family
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of show business. And he is donating this amazing image.
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It couldn't be more perfect of Robin Williams. I'm going
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to show it to fill again and Jeff. But this
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image it's from the Fisher King and can you tell
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us about this image about how Robin because we all
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actually knew Robin and how Robin moved, you know, was
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important in your life.
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Yeah. Well, I make these little books on the movies.
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This is the Fisher King book Great and as gives
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the cast and crew at the end of the movies,
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and they're taken with a wide lux camera that is
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a panning still cameras and so it's it's almost like
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the a seventy millimeter gorgeous. Yeah, form, Matt, And this
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shot of Robert Robin was so wild to work with. Man.
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You know, people think as a comedian, but comedy was
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just a tool in his kit bag. Man, this guy
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was a thesbo you know, actor, wonderful guy.
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And uh they forget that he was.
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Oh well, all kinds of stories as we talk about
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him come to mind. You know, I was afraid what
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working with him. I said, oh shit, you know, I've
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got these big kind of you know, serious monologues I'm
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going to do with him while he's in a coma there,
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you know, and I thought, he's going to screw with
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me the whole time. You know, he's going to be
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to make me laugh and stuff. And the antithesis of
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that happened during that scene where I had this long
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couple of page monologue and he sat there and supported
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me the most beautiful, quiet way. I can't believe it anyway,
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but the comedy. So this was an example. That photograph
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is an example of what Robin would do occasionally. And
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fortunately we had as our commander Terry Gilliam, credible director,
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and the other directors you know, would have tried to
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quell these outbursts of Robin because it takes time, you know,
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you've got assumed. But Terry it would egg him on,
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you know, and Robin every once in a while. I
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can remember it, not from this particular shot, but we
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were doing that scene where we're all in the Chinese
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restaurant eating and it was late at night, one of
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those sixteen hour days. We're all bushed and about, you know,
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four o'clock in the morning. Who dragon, guess, and Robin
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gets up, plants his feet and proceeds to jam for
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a good ten to fifteen minutes, busting everyone's chops all
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you know, all the cast, all the and then Terry
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would say, yeah, but what about him, you know? And
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so this shot that's uh, Robin doing a similar thing
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in this hospital. The hospital he was in a coma, right,
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and here he decides, no, I'm going to jam for
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a second. And you can see all those you know, extras,
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and some of them were probably really mental patients. I'm
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not sure, but Rob it was something. Right.
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When your director is a member of Monty Python, it's
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hard for him to restore order. You had a madman,
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genius director.
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We had a ball and that I'm going to offer
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that photograph to be auctioned off to benefit the Motion
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Picture and Television Fund, which I've published two books where
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their kind of compilations of all of you know, a
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lot of these small books, my favorites, and all of
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those proceeds went to the Motion Picture and Color Bond, which,
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as you say, David, what a wonderful thing for our
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industry to do.
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So you're hearing this right now, and it's you're hearing
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it in real time. Light's Camera Take Action KTLA seven
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to nine, December tenth. Well you can see, well, you'll
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see the two of them. Fortunately for you, you won't
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see me, but well, I'll be behind the scenes working
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with its hosted by Tom bergeron and event Nicole Brown,
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who were both just wonderful. You'll see great musical performances
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by Brad Paisley, by I think, Susannah Hoffs. I think
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I've heard some other big names that just came in,
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so please tune in for that. But when we talk
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about those who came before us, I was thinking a
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lot about why. And I've never told you this in
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our zooms as many times as I've zoomed with you lately.
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You were my first favorite actor, and you were also
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part of my first sexual memory.
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Well, which is.
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Oh my god, not that one, not that one, not
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that one, A different one.
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Oh my look at the times, says Jeff.
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Oh my god, this is I'm nine years old. My
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father must have asked my mother before they're divorced, that
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he wanted to go see the Last Picture Show. She
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must have said no, and so for cover he goes,
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I'm taking our son to say Last Picture Show. I
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am nine years old, the ten fly theater.
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Maybe eight pool.
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Oh my god, that is the moment where I became
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aware of women. And I've never been a movie.
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Yeah, I love movies. Yes, I love movies.
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I spoke over your thing. What it was your punchline
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to that that was the moment that what.
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I was just getting excited. There was no punchline.
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It was just drool.
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I was just drooling at the combination of simple shepherd
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in that pool and my sandwich, which is quite good.
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It wasn't she something? She still is? We got one
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of the fun things about that experience. Twenty years after
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the Picture Show, Peter Begdanovitch, the wonderful, great late director.
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He mustard everyone together and we shot the sequel to
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a picture show called Texasville, also written by Larry McMurtry,
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and we had the same cast and the same crew,
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and it was talking about psychedelic I mean, that was
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like we had a long weekend break and now we're back.
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You know. It was bizarre, But yeah, and Sybil was
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great to work with in both occasions.
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What a gorgeous movie. I implore anyone who hasn't seen
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Last Picture Show to see it.
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Oh, isn't that that kind of stands alone? That just
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kind of sits there by itself. It's not really like
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any other movie or who he's liking. But that's what Peter.
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You know, you think about other movies of his, like
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Paper Moon.
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A gorgeous movie, yes, so wow, can I ask you?
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Because when I go back to your films and I
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even in recent weeks, I had the fortune and misfortune
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to watch Fearless on a plane because yes, I downloaded
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because yes, and by the way, a great movie, not
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a great plane movie, you gotta. I watched it on YouTube.
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You got a huge laugh, so I was. I was
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thrilled for you as you you always you always do
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so well with it. But as an actor, I was
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wondering why you've been my favorite actor for so many years. Uh,
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And if Jack Nicholson does a podcast, I'll sort of
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tell him he's also my favorite actor. But when you did.
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When I first saw you in the movies at nine,
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I was most struck by Sybil Shepherd, but I was
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also struck by you as an actor. And I've always thought,
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what is it about your quality? Because it is not
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it is almost like the same ease you have doing
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this today. And but you I heard you on another
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podcast say something that maybe it's the whole secret or
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maybe actually your brother Bo said it, but he said
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that your dad said something about like the first lesson
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of acting was make it true, And I thought you
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have a way of making it true and making it
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feel true to us like no one else I know.
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Was your dad a big shaping and your and maybe
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your brother too, were they big defining sort of the
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first lesson?
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Yeah, But I think the reason you enjoy me as
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an actor is because I got to make I had
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a scene where I got to make love you.
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No, that's why I hate you.
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That's why I'm jealous. My first act of my first
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lust and my first jealousy at nine years old.
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There you go, there you go. There was only little
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vicarious trip going on. But yeah, I mean both my
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dad and my brother that that's those are my teachers.
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And yeah, you know my dad he would you know,
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if you ever see a little kid in Sea Hunt,
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he must have watched that when you were Is that
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before your time? No?
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I saw clips of you in that?
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Yeah, yeah, And so you know he would lure me,
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you know, he would say, come on, let's come come
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to work with dad, and I go, well, you get
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to get out of school, man, we get and he
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would set me on his bed and teach me all
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the basics you know about you know, don't just the
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guy stops and then you say, you're lying. You gotta
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you know, it's in response to what he's saying, and
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you know, go out now, come back, go out of
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the room, now, come back and do it completely different
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and just you know, it's like plans Jeff, you know,
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you so all that stuff he did. But the main
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thing that I remember is I think back as a kid.
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adult two times in Tucker with Coppola, great movie blown
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Away and yeah and uh and both those, both those instances,
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I got a real hit of his his technique, and
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the basis of it was just joy. He just loved it, man,
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Everybody would ripple through the you know, the whole cast
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and crew, and they would say, yeah, this is kind
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of fun what we're doing. Oh yeah, you know we
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can you know, and we're all we've done this all
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for a long time together. We've got all these memories
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about it. Let's have fun. You know, when you have
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that spirit, you start to relax, and out of that
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relaxation comes your best stuff, you know, because you know,
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we're all in this together, We're loved, we have confidence,
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then you know, it's easier. So that was the main
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thing I learned from my dad. And it really wasn't
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anything he said, but just the way, just the way
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he behaved.
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That transferred to I believe your brother. When he had
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an interview with John Houston for Fat City, I think
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it was he said, John Houston said you're great, You're
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like a little too old, and yeah, he says that.
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He then said, well, I have a brother, Is that true? Absolutely?
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And talk about joy and having fun making movies doing
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Baker Boys, fabulous Baker Boys. My brother man, we had
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a ball, you know, we'd have lunch every day and
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just pinch ourself. Can you believe what's happened? This is
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so much fun. You many adventures on that movie that
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was so great, and then we're working with Michelle you know,
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Fire for that was so great. And Steve Clovis he
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directed that. That was his first film.
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It's a masterpieces in a credit movie.
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Yeah and yeah, he wrote it, I think when he
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was like twenty two, directed it when he was twenty
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five or something, you know, and the great producer Mark Rosenberg,
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he held out for Steve to direct it because you
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can imagine all the other you know directors in Hollywood
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with that script, they said, what a great script it is,
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and he held out for Steve and was so instrumental
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in making that movie what it turned out to be,
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which was just terrific.
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I thought, well, actually that makes me think about you
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mentioned music comes up in like, I think you're an
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amazing musician too. Your brother talks about you know, what
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a great you know, he always thought you were a
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great musician. But obviously Crazy Heart taught the whole world that.
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And I wonder if if music, how much has that
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been a part of you know, everything in your life
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is is music, you know. I think the world discovered
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it a little later, But has that always been a
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big part of your life?
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Yeah? Well, my father replaced Richard Kylie in Man of
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La Mancha.
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I do know that, Holy Cow, And I remember.
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As a kid him doing guys and dolls and all
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of that kind of music was around the house.
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And you were in high school with another a friend
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of ours, Bonnie rait right, who her father was also Wow.
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Oh man, My girlfriend, Kya Kiel was Howard Keel's Oh
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my god. So Bonnie and Kya were best friends.
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You know, when's your Broadway musical.
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I don't know if I'll ever do that. Bo did,
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want Bo did? Yeah? What does he how to succeed?
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What is it?
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Oh? Yeah, how succeed?
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He did it with the Jonas I think I heard.
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Yeah, if you could pick the ideal Broadway musical role
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for yourself, what would it have been or or it
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could still be?
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Yeah? Well, what pops into my mind is a man
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of Lamontia, you know? And why? I think one of
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the reasons it popped into my mind is Terry Gilliam.
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Yeah he did that movie.
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Yeah that never finished made it man? Yeah, yeah, the
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good one.
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It's really I just saw it recently again, wonderful, but
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god tenacity Terry.
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Well, can I be first in line to invest in
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Jeff Bridges as Man of La Mancha?
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I I think I'd love to see that.
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Yeah, that's pretty wild.
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Let's talk about well, there's so much suck it. I mean,
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we could do ten parts here.
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You crazy heart if you want, can you us ask
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about what do we we are both friends with T Bone?
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What do you love about t Bone? And you know
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what he has brought to your your life and career?
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And so we would meet over at t Bone's house.
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That's a picture of us at that time, and John
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was there, Goodwin. John wrote to hold on You and
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it was kind of the theme, the theme for the film,
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and Steven and t Bone wrote a lot of the songs.
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But wow, I want to talk about the greater, the opportunity,
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the more frightening man. You know, Scott Cooper. That was
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his first film too, got Cooper. I just saw his
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most recent film, Pale Blue Eyes, which is really worth looking.
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It's a really great film. He's become a master filmmaker.
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But I think he was a master with his first
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time out of the gate with you know, Crazy Heart.
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But I was. He gave me that film, you know,
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that script for maybe a couple of years before we
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did it, and I he was kind of a would
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be a wonderful I often dream I said, Wow, wouldn't
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it be great to do a movie about and play
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a musician? You know? But it's one thing to have
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a dream, and then when you make that dream real,
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well that could fail, you know, dreams in the dream land,
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you know. So I was I but I had an out.
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I said, well, there's no music in the script. I
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haven't written that, so you know, it all depends on
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the music, so I can pass on it. And I
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kept passing, and then one day I ran into my
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buddy t Bone and he said, well, what do you
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think about the script? Crazy heart? I said, well, you know,
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it's a good script, but there's no music, you know,
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And he said, oh, that's the easy part, man. I said,
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what are you talking about? You interested? He said, well,
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I'll do it if you'll do it. And then I
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couldn't turn that down. I was so frightening, man, frightening.
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But it worked out. Okay, right, I think a best
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actor Oscar was That's not bad.
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It worked out, but it was very frightening, man. But
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I just did. You know, often in my life I
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like the coffee and the tea mixture experiment, you know,
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Like I remember early on in my career, I didn't
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know if I wanted to be an actor. You know,
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who wants to do what their parents wanted to do,
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you know, And both my parents really encouraged me going
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into the show bids, you.
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Know, which is very unusual.
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Yeah, it really is. And I said, oh, Dad, I'm
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you know, I I think I like the paint or music.
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He said, yeah, don't be ridiculous. That's one of the
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great things about acting is that you'll be encouraged to
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bring all of those different the interest into your work.
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You know. I'm so glad I listened to him because
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he was absolutely, absolutely right. But early on in my career,
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I think I had been nominated for a Last Picture Show,
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and still I was saying, I don't know if I
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want to do this. And I had about ten movies
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under my belt, and I just finished a movie called
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American Heart, about a race car driver, and I had
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a great time and it turned out. I'm proud of
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the movie. It was a great experience. But after that movie,
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and this happens on other most films, I'm tired. Man.
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I don't there's a muscle that you use, you know,
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the pretend muscle or something, you know. I just I
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wanted to put that down and just be myself. And
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I got offered right after that. That will be about
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a couple of days after. My agent called me and
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says John Frankenheimer would like you to play a part
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in the Iceman Cometh with Frederick March and Robert Ryan
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and Lee Marvin Wow. And I said, oh, well, thank him,
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but I'm I'm book. Uh, thank him, but I'm not
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going to do that. He said, You're not. I said no, no,
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And then about five minutes later, Lamont Johnson, who I
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had was the director on you know, uh, Last American Hero,
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he called me up and he said, I understand that
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you turned down John Frankenheimer. I said, oh, Monty, I'm Bush.
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He said, you're Bush. You're an ass. And I thought, well,
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there'll be a chance for me to do it. One
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of these experiments i'm kind of I really don't want
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to do. I'm going to do it, and maybe it'll
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serve as the final coffin that, you know, the mail
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and my acting coffin finally and I can shift gears.
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This will be a you know, I can test it.
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So I signed on for that movie, and it was
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very unusual and for a number of reasons. But one
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was that we rehearsed for eight weeks and shot for
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two and so it was eight weeks of hanging out
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with these old masters, you know, Frederick marsh and most
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of my scenes were with Robert Ryan Wow and Lee
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Marvin was there, you know, and I could see talking
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about this fear in this anxiety that all these old
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cats man. They were just as afraid and just as
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anxious as I was of doing justice to the material,
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you know, and that, you know, was a big That
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was a big shift for me. That's when I said, oh, yeah,
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I can do this. I'll do this for the rest
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of my life, you know, and learning just just got
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to be befriend that fear. That's that's going to be
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there all the time, and just you.
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Know, so it's not that the anxiety and the joy
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coexist next to each other. I think, if I'm hearing
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this right, you've got to get through your anxiety to
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get to the joy.
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Yeah, It's it's a funny kind of thing. Many and
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they happen kind of simultaneously, you.
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Know, often, no, I mean everyone.
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What comes to mind is I'm thinking about playing music, yeah,
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and doing a show, and my daughter Jesse often it
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plays with me, you know, when we go on the
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stage together and I can remember in the wings that
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go on and we look at him her panicking, you know,
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we look they say, what the and then you get
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out there and within a few moments, boom, you're feeling fine,
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you know, and you think, after that process over and
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over and over again, that you would say, you would know. Man,
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it's always there.
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Yeah, it's the monkey never learns.
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Gosh, it's so funny you talk about the old timers,
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you know that you worked with on that early on,
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and you worked with so many legends, and at the
484
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:29.880
Motion Picture Home there are people of all ages, but
485
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.440
there are you run into some legends who are.
486
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:33.799
Who are there?
487
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:36.839
And I wonder if you've thought much about I've been
488
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.480
looking at some of your films. I realize there are
489
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.960
great actors like your co Star and Bad Company, who
490
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:45.880
I think died very young. You go, this guy was great,
491
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:51.839
and then you're Timothy Bottoms in the Last Picture Show. Great,
492
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.839
great actor. But do you ever think about what makes
493
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:58.880
the people who become one hundred percent lifers, who just
494
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.119
stay in the fight and never lose interest in it.
495
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.640
Yeah, you know what comes to mind is just the
496
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:12.559
seasons of life. You know, it's a funny thing. I
497
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.079
noticed it in my own life. There'll be seasons when
498
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.039
I'll be so intense into something and then that'll pass
499
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:24.079
and I won't have that same charge, and something else
500
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:26.799
will happened. You know, both those guys Berry Brown and
501
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:34.079
Tim Bottom's Wow, brilliant actors. Both of them, and you know,
502
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.519
I think maybe I don't know. I don't know what
503
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:43.480
causes that consistency of the thing, just different seasons of life,
504
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:44.279
I guess. You know.
505
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.799
I think about that with t Bone because I was
506
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.759
a huge fan of t Bone from his Alpha band
507
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.359
and his solo work, like when he was in the
508
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.680
orbit of Bob Dylan. And then you think, Okay, his career,
509
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:57.720
I was one of the critics who wrote great reviews
510
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.000
of my college paper, and then his his recording career
511
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.319
was sort of dying off a little bit. And then
512
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.720
he has this second and third coming as the biggest
513
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.359
producer of all time and doing great work in movies.
514
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:15.279
It's amazing how those seasons of life happened for Yeah, and.
515
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:19.759
The different aspects of each person. You know, my buddy
516
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:26.359
John Goodwin, he's holding man, he's got the tunes herit look,
517
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.519
but he doesn't like to perform, man, he doesn't, you
518
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.960
know he and that. You know, some things have to
519
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:37.920
come together to be successful in a monetary you know,
520
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.920
the traditional idea of success, of course, but you know,
521
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:47.480
being being a wonderful songwriter and an artist with oh
522
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.440
your stuff or not. You know, Emily Dickinson. You know
523
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.799
all those poems in that drawer. She must have gotten
524
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.319
high off those poems out.
525
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.440
But seems to have built a career strictly based on
526
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:07.759
his personal taste. Yes, right, I mean it's when do
527
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:11.319
you see that. It's just his sensibility that we're so
528
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.599
drawn to. It's in the movies, it's in the music,
529
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.640
it's in everything he does. It's just his the way
530
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.440
he thinks. He is so great. He just was in
531
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.880
Phil's new season of his show Somebody Feed Phill the
532
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.720
National episode you have a scene with t Bone.
533
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.240
Yeah, which was really really great. So they're co stars now.
534
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:30.519
He's great.
535
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.960
And even in my career he did little things like
536
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.400
you talk about, like pushing other people forward, like he
537
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.440
was asked to do I think a twentieth anniversary of
538
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.880
Oh Brother, the soundtrack, which was this phenomena that only
539
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:42.839
t Bone could bring.
540
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.079
This a lot change my life. I didn't know that
541
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:48.240
music until that movie, but he asked me to.
542
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.720
I was asked to interview him, and then they said, okay,
543
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.680
we're going to do a radio special and they wanted
544
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.960
him to be the voiceover, and he goes, no, have
545
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:57.599
David be the voiceover I've never done a voice over
546
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.000
in my life, but maybe he was just trying to
547
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.359
get out of the work. But also he was pushing
548
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:02.880
me forward.
549
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:06.640
So I think a thing, you know, as we're talking
550
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.079
about T Bone, who I consider, you know, when I
551
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.640
work with him, he's sort of he's my director, you know,
552
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:17.319
like a director, and I think of other wonderful directors,
553
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.359
you know, like the Coen Brothers or you know, I've
554
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.559
worked with some wonderful directors. And if a person came
555
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.400
onto the set, or you go into the studio with
556
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:32.319
T Bone, that person who was just there for the
557
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.279
first time, not knowing them, they would think, well, what
558
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:40.039
they're doing They're not doing anything. I don't think they're
559
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.039
creating the space for all of that stuff to cook.
560
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.680
And like you say, you know, on T Bones it's
561
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.440
the ears and but it's also god, I guess you
562
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.839
know that corny word love, you know, Yeah, they project that,
563
00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:02.519
you know, they project love, axation, you know, joy, all
564
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.839
of those things, and that brings I think out the
565
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.400
best and the artists that are lucky enough to be
566
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:11.559
involved with those.
567
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.760
Guys, you know, again, a life lesson. But was t
568
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.000
Bone your connection to the Cone Brothers.
569
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:22.679
No, no, T. Bone and I met on Heaven's Gate,
570
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:29.519
heavns Gate, amazing and uh and you survived, providing We
571
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:34.800
stayed your friends all through those all the all those movies.
572
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.199
And we worked together in films several times, you know,
573
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.000
Lebowski we worked on and uh.
574
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.559
Oh wait, but now you're talking about the Cone Bros.
575
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.920
So how did you meet the Cone bro the com Brothers.
576
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:51.760
It was just the Remember I ran it, run into
577
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.599
him somewhere, and they said, we're writing a script for you.
578
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:58.880
And I said, oh wonderful, I got it, got it,
579
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.159
And I said, wow, this isn't it Like this isn't
580
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.119
like anything I've ever done before. This is kind of like,
581
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.920
I don't know, kind of I though related to me
582
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.519
back in high school. You know, I don't know. And
583
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:17.280
you know that it was, you know, basically kind of
584
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:19.880
a standard, you know, sending the script to me. And
585
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:23.639
but Bone wasn't involved. I think at that there, I
586
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.760
didn't know that he was involved. I can't even I
587
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:30.239
might have even recommended, I don't know, maybe not. But
588
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.239
we've worked together. We do a lot of documentary's work.
589
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.639
We did a documentary call A Place at the Table,
590
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.360
all about ending hunger here in our country, and yeah,
591
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.400
did the music on that.
592
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.239
But will you get the script from the Old Man?
593
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.079
He's doing the soundtrack.
594
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.280
I want to talk about that because that we love that.
595
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:54.280
We are is obsessed and I just jumped in and
596
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.000
it's my favorite new show. But it's tell me about
597
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.199
your journey with Old Man.
598
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.039
I just I was hooked immediately. You don't see writing
599
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.159
like that, you don't see directing like That's it's a
600
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:11.119
very sophisticated, intelligently brilliantly written show. And then you're phenomenal
601
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:14.039
in it. I know there's going to be another season, right,
602
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:15.119
have you started that already?
603
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.880
No, we start up in March. But yeah, as you say,
604
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:26.119
the writing and the directing and our showrunner John Steinberg,
605
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:32.519
who created the whole thing, he's wonderful to work with,
606
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.360
very you know, has a real definite vision, but it's
607
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.239
so open at the same time to get ideas and
608
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.960
that's yeah everybody around him and that's that's great.
609
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:44.960
So you started shooting that and then you had some
610
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.760
health issues, right and then yeah, yeah, I mean to
611
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.760
put it mildly, and then they shut down and then
612
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:51.559
he came back to it.
613
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:56.679
Or was it all no, we shut down for the
614
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:58.280
COVID stuff.
615
00:36:58.559 --> 00:36:59.239
Yeah.
616
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.280
I was working out one day and I felt this
617
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.840
funny and I felt like a bone where a bone
618
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.639
didn't belong in my body and my stomach, and my
619
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.840
wife felt as she said, yeah, you know you ought
620
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:13.920
to get that checked out. I said, no, no, it
621
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.960
doesn't hurt. You know. I went up to Montana for
622
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:24.480
a couple of months and no problem. My my calf's
623
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:29.119
itched and I had night sweats and I thought, that's
624
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.519
just because it's hot and dry skin. It was all
625
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:38.880
turned out to be, you know, symptoms of lymphoma. Wow.
626
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:42.519
And I get back and I'm about I've got another
627
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.719
couple of weeks to go before I start up the
628
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:46.599
old man again. I said, I'm better get this thing
629
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.079
checked out. I go in there and they tell me
630
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:54.079
I've got a nine by twelve inch tumor in my body.
631
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.719
Nine by twelve that's like a child.
632
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.519
Man, you know, Wow, not a good child.
633
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:06.840
God. And so they finally figured out the right chemo
634
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.920
treatment that made the thing just implode, and I was
635
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.440
so happy. And then I came home and I remember
636
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:19.360
it was I think it was January sixth, you know,
637
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:24.920
the insurrection that they got watching that on TV. See that.
638
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:28.559
And then I get this letter, I think that same day.
639
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:33.159
All wanted that the letter from my treatment center saying
640
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:37.159
you may have been exposed to COVID. Oh shit, And
641
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:43.639
I said, oh shit exactly. You know, the the chemo
642
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.480
stripped my immune system. I had no no, and then
643
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.360
the COVID man that made the cancer look like nothing.
644
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.000
Oh my god. And I was in the hospital for oh,
645
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.000
you know, six weeks or something, and I was sick
646
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:02.800
for almost two years. You get over this thing and
647
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:04.880
five and I didn't know about was going to go
648
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:06.920
back to work on The Old Man or ever work
649
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:07.639
ever again?
650
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.599
How far along were you and the Old Man?
651
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.360
We you know about we had maybe three more episodes
652
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:22.159
to go. And through my you know, medical team and
653
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:26.280
the different trainers I had, I slowly got going and
654
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:29.039
I said, see, I guess I can go back to work.
655
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:33.559
How amazing. And I went back and talk about psychedelic.
656
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.119
It was like we had a long weekend. This is
657
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:41.280
two years later. Because you got the same crew, you
658
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.559
got the same actors, and I would go up to
659
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.079
those guys and say I had the weirdest dream man.
660
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.000
You know. It was just bizarre.
661
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.760
But what a piece of work.
662
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:53.280
Jeff.
663
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.760
I want to ask you because you seem by nature
664
00:39:56.079 --> 00:40:00.280
to have always been an empathetic person, But you talk
665
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.800
about your battle with COVID and I've read stories I
666
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.000
don't know if they're true, like you literally had to
667
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.840
go work with a trainer so you could walk your
668
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.679
daughter down for her wedding on Is that true? And
669
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.679
and this experience like that make you even more empathetic,
670
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.360
Like you're here giving for Motion Picture and Television fund
671
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:25.360
do you think, uh, everything you've been through the last
672
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.760
couple of years and thank God coming out the other
673
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.639
side and looking fantastic if you're not, if you're hearing
674
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.079
this on audio, Jeff, looks great. But do you think
675
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.280
that made you an even more empathetic person about helping
676
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:38.880
others like the people at MPTF.
677
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:43.920
Yeah, I think so. I mean, you know, talking about
678
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.960
getting in shape. I mean I didn't think I was
679
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:50.360
gonna make it for you know, there were days I thought, oh,
680
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.119
you know, everybody's got to die. This is what me
681
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:55.400
dying looks like. You know, here I you know it's
682
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.679
gonna go. And so I was giving these little goals.
683
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:00.960
You know, I remember the first well see how long
684
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:03.840
you can stand up out of the bed And my
685
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.719
record was forty five seconds. It's good, you know. Then
686
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.039
I would you know, walk five feet ten feet you know,
687
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:18.559
you know. And then I said, gee, it's Hayley's wedding.
688
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.519
Wouldn't it be great if I could walk her down
689
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:26.679
the aisle? Uh, you know, without all the oxygen and stuff.
690
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:27.920
It's a good motivator.
691
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:35.440
Yeah. And my trainer, Zach Zach you know, worked on
692
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.760
me every day, you know, and we started to you know,
693
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:45.440
work work towards that goal. And man, I could do it.
694
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.480
I got to not only walk her down the aisle,
695
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:49.320
and I got to dance with her, you know, and
696
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.079
then go to the table shove the oxygen.
697
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.360
So what was the song, Jeff?
698
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.519
Oh, it was Ray Charles? What was it? Guys? See
699
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:03.039
your test in my memory. Man, But you're talking about
700
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:08.840
empathy when you go through that kind of thing, you know,
701
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.280
it's the same thing we were talking about with that fear.
702
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.119
You know, we all have fear. We're all going to die,
703
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:22.920
we have you know, it's fascinating how everybody responds to death,
704
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:27.039
whether it's happening to you or if it's happening to
705
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:32.280
a loved one, you know, my wife and my daughter,
706
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:38.079
my middle daughter, Jesse, well, all of the girls. I
707
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:41.880
got three daughters, Isabelle, Jesse, and Haley, and they all
708
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:50.239
reacted very differently to the situation. You know, Jesse, who
709
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.000
was stayed with Sue for weeks while I was in
710
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:58.480
the hospital. She's very emotional and all her emotions are
711
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:02.960
out there. And Sue she can get emotional, but she
712
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.320
has to take a break and just stop it, you know,
713
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:09.599
watch some TV or just disengage. And Jesse would you know,
714
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.400
get home, said don't you understand, and she would say,
715
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.960
get me some slack, you know, and me my own experience.
716
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.360
The doctors who were saying, Jeff, you got to fight.
717
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.079
You're not fighting, man, you got to fight this thing.
718
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.800
And I had no idea what they were talking about.
719
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:32.599
I said, fin, I don't. I couldn't understand what they said.
720
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.599
I said, no, I told them I'm in surrender mode
721
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:42.320
right now. I'm you know, yeah, I couldn't. I didn't understand.
722
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.000
And then you know, some people that means a lot,
723
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.559
do you know, fight it? You know, I need to live.
724
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:53.960
I didn't experience it that way. Everybody does it so differently,
725
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.599
so uh, and I went at it kind of the
726
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.920
experience that same experimental mode, you know, like, oh this
727
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:06.480
is interesting, Oh interesting, look at that. And but to
728
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:12.079
real the empathy is interesting. How unique we all are,
729
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.280
you know, we're similar, and that we're all unique, you know,
730
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:18.440
that's kind of what we share, you know, in common.
731
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:27.159
And so to appreciate everyone's uniqueness and honor of their uniqueness,
732
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:28.800
you know, and not say you've got to do it
733
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.119
like me, Well don't.
734
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.320
I don't know you well enough to know this, but
735
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:36.760
I have this sense that all these women who surround you,
736
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:41.000
your daughters, your wife, I know, these women like Jeane
737
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.360
and Becky, who I've gotten to know the last couple weeks,
738
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.320
it just seems like you are surrounded by a lot
739
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.719
of love from strong women. I know Jane for years,
740
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.559
and you have a lot of I think if you
741
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:54.440
have a lot of women on your side, you're going
742
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:55.760
to do a lot better in this world.
743
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.840
My main woman, my mom, you know, she was something
744
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:00.559
and and.
745
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:03.960
She even supported your dad when he was a guy
746
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.079
in the theater trying.
747
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.360
To start off. She was and she would you know,
748
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.559
i'd be talking about this anxiety and of that I
749
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:16.159
haven't I remember as a kid, hitting in the car
750
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:19.480
go to work, you know, and she would go, Jeff, Jeff, Yeah,
751
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:24.719
I said what mom? She said, remember have fun and
752
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:31.159
don't take it too seriously. Thank you mom. And Sue
753
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.320
gives me that now my wife gives me that same direction.
754
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:38.599
And you'd think that you'd remember that, but you forget
755
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:41.800
every time, you know, And it's such And the important
756
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.480
word in there is t O O two. You know,
757
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:49.280
we tend to ye you don't have this, have fun.
758
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:51.920
You can be serious, but don't feel you've got to
759
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.880
be so serious that you're you know, I'm not serious enough.
760
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:57.559
Light up people.
761
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.559
That reminds me of a lesson that Kevin Bacon, who's
762
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.000
been on our podcast. He taught you that lesson that
763
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:07.800
many years ago.
764
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:13.000
Right, I love that. Yeah, we're I love this, Bubba
765
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:21.840
Yeah yeah. He uh said, we're doing this movie with
766
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.039
Ryan Reynolds, what was it called r I P D
767
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:28.360
r I P D. And we got this scene that
768
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.519
we're all going to do together and was a you know,
769
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.719
with a lot of special effects, and there was everybody,
770
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:36.920
you know, I wanted to do it right kind of
771
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.360
quickly because the re said it all was going to
772
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.280
be a hassle everything, and he, you know, Kevin gathered
773
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:47.119
all the people together and he said, now, guys, I
774
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.719
got to tell you something. This is very serious. He said.
775
00:46:51.159 --> 00:47:00.360
What he said, remember, everything depends on this, and of
776
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.119
course it's you know, it had a lot of spin
777
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.599
to it for me because yeah, of course you know,
778
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.800
of course it doesn't, but then of course it does.
779
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:12.679
How everything right this moment, this, how we feel, what
780
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:17.039
we bring to this moment, that's it. Everything depends on that.
781
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.280
And very thin and yet you should never.
782
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:27.159
See yea boba Kevin man, that's so great love. I
783
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:28.079
love that.
784
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.000
That's a fun So you're when you're when you're in
785
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.840
your hospital bed, you don't have a fear of death.
786
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:40.079
You you were saying, this is interesting, what's happening to me?
787
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:42.360
Yeah? More curiosity?
788
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:46.079
Yeah, And do you still feel that way?
789
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.719
I guess, I mean, you know, certainly, you know, after
790
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:56.000
that experience, there were so many wonderful things that came
791
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:59.679
out of that experience that would not have happened without it,
792
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.639
like well, an appreciation.
793
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:04.559
For life there you go.
794
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.719
And uh for love again, you know, to realize how
795
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:13.840
loved I am from my family and my friends, and
796
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.519
you know, the world and kind of you know, all
797
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:20.920
that support and then how much I love all those people.
798
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.800
So it's just exacerbated and love man in the most
799
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:29.840
wild way. And each little you know from the nurses,
800
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.280
and you know each each little moment, and I said, oh,
801
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:36.920
this is this, this is what this is? Oh yeah,
802
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.400
the blood, you know, each little thing.
803
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:42.599
But I get the feeling that you were somewhat like
804
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:47.440
that before, but now you're super in exacerbated.
805
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.719
Yes, yes, the philosophy. You know, one of the things
806
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.000
that that kind of thing does is you pull out
807
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.199
all the stops everything that worked in your life or
808
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.400
that you you know, your spirit duality or you know,
809
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.519
your philosophies. Okay, now now's the time, guys. What you
810
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.719
got Let's see there's some practice. So you get to
811
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:14.639
practice all of that stuff in a big way, you know.
812
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.760
And how you know what am I? What are my techniques?
813
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.800
I said, Well, experimenting has been a big technique in
814
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:26.760
my life. We've talked about it, you know, and you're
815
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:31.519
afraid and you say, oh that's interesting. Well once on
816
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:33.679
the other side of that fear, what you know, what
817
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:39.880
does that have to teach me? You know? Uh? Yeah,
818
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:44.360
all of all of the bumps in life to me,
819
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.239
h seem like kind of golden opportunities, you know, those
820
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.920
very things that we want to push away and avoid,
821
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:59.679
those seem to be often have some kind of little
822
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:03.480
current of you know, like the next class. You know.
823
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.760
You know, you go to a class and you say, yeah,
824
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.039
I don't understand it. You know, it's too too heavy. Uh.
825
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.920
Sometimes you got to bow out of the class, say
826
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:18.559
you know what, I'm not ready for that. I'm I'm
827
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:23.280
gonna shift and do something else. But often you say, oh,
828
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:26.159
this is interesting. Now I'm going to really listen to
829
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.519
it and try to figure out what is to be
830
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.599
learned in this situation. And I know that just seems
831
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:35.320
to be my my method.
832
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:40.119
You know, I don't know, well you do know. I mean,
833
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.719
I'm welling up listening to you. You're wonderful.
834
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.519
Here's something that you guys might dig I don't know,
835
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:50.639
not too A few years ago I wrote a book
836
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:54.679
with my dear friend Bernie Glassman, who's to be a
837
00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:01.039
Jewish zend master man HU and he would do these
838
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.119
things bearing witness retreats where he would go to Auschwitz
839
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.280
and spend time with the families of the guards and
840
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:13.800
the survivors and bear witness. And tenants for this bearing
841
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:18.960
witness retreats would be like you say, not knowing, you know,
842
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.400
you say, you know, well I don't really know, so
843
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:26.440
not knowing and then bearing witness, being there at the
844
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:30.480
place and just bear it. What does life have to
845
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:33.920
show me in this situation? And those two things, not
846
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:38.280
knowing and bearing witness. Out of that will come an
847
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:43.440
action that has to do with love most often you
848
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:48.440
know what the appropriate action. And that is a wonderful,
849
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.920
a wonderful thing for me to remember when I'm going
850
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.079
through tough time or you know, you know, anytime. But
851
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.280
you ought to check this book out of your well.
852
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.360
Is called the Dude in the Zen Master.
853
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:06.440
Oh fantastic, and we took we have to talk about
854
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.599
the dude getting back to meeting the Coen Brothers. You
855
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:11.960
get this script, do you say, oh, this is me
856
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:16.360
or I'm really going to have to throw on a new.
857
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.199
Some new clothes to do this one.
858
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.559
Well, speaking of clothes, a lot of those were.
859
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.920
My clothes, I thought. So that's how you walked into
860
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:29.159
the Mandarin Oriental.
861
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.760
There you go, and here I'm just going to go
862
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:36.000
into my Lebowski book. Here look at this shot. This
863
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:41.039
is the Cohen Brothers, and that Jeff Dowd who used
864
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:43.639
as a you know, kind of a model to write
865
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.159
that character. That's our first meeting.
866
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:53.840
Awesome. But I mean I'm guessing this is the thing
867
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.719
you're you're you're most noticed for.
868
00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:59.039
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
869
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.840
Yeah, it's not treated like a movie.
870
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:04.119
It is treated like a religion.
871
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:07.719
Yes, it's become a religion. I mean, it's become a religious.
872
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.440
But it's because of this attitude that permeates it and
873
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.280
that you seem to have in real life.
874
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.800
I think it's just because it's such a good movie. Man.
875
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:20.639
Those guys are masked. They are masters. You often don't
876
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:22.800
see any of the effort or just kind of like,
877
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:29.599
that's right, guys are masters, man, They just uh each scene.
878
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:29.800
You know.
879
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:33.480
I don't often watch my movies on TV or something,
880
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:35.199
but when that movie comes.
881
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:39.360
On, yes, it'll catch me man alone.
882
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:45.639
But then I'll next thing, Oh give it, and you can't.
883
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.480
Stop because it's so much fun too.
884
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:54.800
There's I recently got a book that is the whole screenplay,
885
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:59.760
but written as if Shakespeare wrote it. But yeah, two men,
886
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:05.119
two Men from Venice. There's something like that. And uh,
887
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:09.159
you know you talk about religions there it's formed, it's
888
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:15.360
a religion. You know, there's boot you know, there's Lebowski
889
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:21.280
priests or whatever. The festivals. I know, I had my
890
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:24.320
Beetle moment when I showed up with my band the
891
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:29.559
Abiders awesome one of these festivals, and you know the dude.
892
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:33.320
You see all these people dressed up like the dude
893
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:37.480
out there. Bizarre, so fun.
894
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.880
I don't think most movies need a sequel, but I
895
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:42.760
think this one could.
896
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.000
Oh well, are you talking about it?
897
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:50.599
No? I mean, well, I thought about you know, difference,
898
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.119
you know, you know, because I mean it's all set up,
899
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:57.320
you know, Julianne of course, and the dude they've had,
900
00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:59.360
you know, he's impregnated.
901
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.400
Mad and you're alt, I've.
902
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:04.519
Yeah, but I don't think they want to do that.
903
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.400
No, but the single dudes.
904
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:09.440
Yeah, but this one there's an exception.
905
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:10.119
I know.
906
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:12.559
By the way, there's also a Broadway musical in that
907
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:13.280
movie too.
908
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.440
Oh that's true.
909
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:17.679
That's wonderful.
910
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:19.559
Working with them again on True.
911
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.679
Grit, Oh my god, how great is that?
912
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:26.159
But they're just they're so wonderful to work with.
913
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:31.519
Gosh, Jeff, I want to ask you to connect all
914
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.000
these things. We started talking about MPTF quite a bit.
915
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.159
But from your point of view, why is it important
916
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:43.119
that the Motion Picture and Television Fund that like the
917
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:47.039
dude that the MPTF abides. Why do we need a
918
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:47.800
place like this?
919
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:54.159
Well, there's a great example of how we take care
920
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:55.760
of each other. You know, I don't know if any
921
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.679
other industry really does it, do you you know, I
922
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:03.360
think this may be the only industry that really provides
923
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.199
for all of the people in it the way Motion
924
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.679
Patreon Television Fund does. Well.
925
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.920
Let it serve as an example to other professions and
926
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:14.199
just human beings.
927
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.719
And you know, when you think about you know, there's
928
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:20.480
so much stuff on the TV now and the movies
929
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:26.320
and all those guys that give us that you can
930
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:32.480
take it for granted, or you can, you know, take
931
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:36.599
it with some gratitude and put in some money to
932
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:41.039
help these folks. You know, well we.
933
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:44.119
Will and and and as Jeff knows, it is not
934
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:48.639
the stars really primarily, it's the crew. It's that that
935
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:50.679
you've spoken to me in the short time we've been
936
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.159
speaking the last few weeks. You talk a lot about
937
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.039
the interconnectedness of a set, any set you're on. It
938
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.039
is one team. It is everyone pulling together. That's the
939
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:01.960
only way that magic happens.
940
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:04.480
This job, well, you use the word magic. It's a
941
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:09.280
giant magic trick. One movie is a one time magic
942
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:13.679
trick and it takes so many people to pull it off.
943
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:19.119
And uh, you know we talked about you know, not
944
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.920
seeing the effort. You know, there's a lot of effort
945
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:28.000
that goes into making movies. You know, Yeah, it comes
946
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.039
out and it looks like, oh, that's nothing. Well, that's
947
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:33.239
because of the artistry of all the talent that goes
948
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:39.199
into it, the wardrobe. It's also everything's the sets, the wardrobe,
949
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:43.000
the quality of the sound, the music, all of that.
950
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:48.039
Hundreds of people, some times thousands.
951
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:50.400
And it's the same kind of assignment. You know, as
952
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.440
an actor, you know, you want it to be interesting,
953
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.199
but you want it to be like, you know, to
954
00:57:56.360 --> 00:58:00.000
use the word David, truthful. But you don't want to
955
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:04.800
the pop. You know, you don't want to take you
956
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:08.719
out of the world that's been created. And it's you know,
957
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:11.639
it's a little it's a delicate dance. You want to
958
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:15.239
kind of stretch the world, give dynamics, but you don't
959
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.960
want something so far out that it pulls you out
960
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:24.239
of the picture. You know absolutely that takes all this,
961
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:27.880
this talent and this artistry to walk that fine line.
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It's quite an amazing thing. I'm sure glad I've listened
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to my dad and got it got into the biz's
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it's a wonderful, wonderful business.
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And but one thing about the business people should think
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about is it's the economy, the way the economy of
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a country has changed. It's a very gig gig job
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for a lot of people. It is not hard for
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many people to not need a little help from MPTF.
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And they don't just help the people who live there,
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they help people financially. All that time's true. So it's
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like you talk about, I could name great actors with Jeff,
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great co stars, and there could easily be some of
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them who haven't had his career who either, you know,
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whatever fate does, there's a lot of people who we
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all know people who have lived at MPTF and thank
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god there's a place like that. So we ask all
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of you to as the show is lights camera, take action.
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It's going to be on KTLA December tenth, please give
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they want if you can give any small, reoccurring gift.
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It's going to help sustain this place so that Phil
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and Jeff probably won't need it, but I could probably
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need it in like ten years. So it really appreciate.
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If it said I went there my first visit, I
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want to move in. I'm ready. Yeah, it's pretty beautiful.
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And there's this amazing photo of the great Robin Williams,
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who I will say that of all the people I've
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ever worked with, he was the warmth and the generosity
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he left behind, like and even though we now know
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he was suffering, but like I wrote, for a million
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guys on a million shows, he's the only one who
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he never told you a joke was bad. He would
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take your ten jokes and make fifty that were much better.
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And then he would make you feel great as he
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walked on stage and make every single person he saw
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it feel special. That's what That's what he did.
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That's what he brought to the party and at Ripples
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and again it can inspire us to be that way. Yeah,
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we can be that way. I often think about the
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way movies go, you know, where you have all these
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different philosophies and political views and everything, but everybody's come
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together to make a beautiful movie. Right. Yeah, often think, Gee,
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that's the way the world. You know, that's something to
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aspire to for the world to work that way. We
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can all have different ideas and come from different you
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know places, but we want to make a beautiful world
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for all of us. You know.
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I learned that from if you watch Phil's show, Somebody
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feed Phil? I want because he's not really like a
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lot of food shows are about like what the chef
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does and exact procedures. But you talk to these chefs
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and I have to say that you haven't run into
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a lot of jerks who are great chefs. You've run
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into a lot of beautiful people who love feeding, helping,
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sustaining their artists.
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Just like people who make movies or plays or paint pictures.
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You know, they have their own magic tricks.
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What about that show? You know, there's so many wonderful
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shows on the tube now, But was it called The Bear?
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Is it what it was called?
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Yeah, we loved the It.
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Wasn't that that was done very well, all those actors
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in the directions. But there's I mean, of course, you know,
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my daughter Jesse is you know in that biz. Yeah,
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he tells me you know, getting that, you know, being
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an apprentice on age, they can be tough, of course,
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in that you know behind the scenes it can be
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very tough.
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Well, it's literally a hot environment, right.
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Exactly exactly, and it's interesting probably like directors. I guess
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there's some ass asshole directors too, and they make good
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movies like chefs. You know that of course is not
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always a beautiful place.
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But then you meet you met Jose andres you ever
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meet him?
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I think so?
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But you know who he is. He he literally saves
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the world, right, I mean, this is this fantastic, open hearted,
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great guy.
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Most importantly, did you sang which you ever arrived?
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Oh?
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My goodness, we didn't feed. We kind of feed Jeff Bridges.
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All right, we're gonna make it worth your while. We're
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gonna we're gonna tomorrow. You're getting a shipment.
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Of something down there, probably waiting for me.
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I think it is.
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We did get to notice that it was there, so
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I think they're just making you starve until we finish.
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Well, even better, can we take you to a great
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01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:12.199
meal when you're in La next?
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01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:14.239
Sure? That sounds great?
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01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:16.320
How great? And will you come and do a movie night?
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T Bone has come for movie nights at our house,
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and uh, we show one of your favorites. It doesn't
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even have to be a I'd love.
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It to be a movie of yours.
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I have an idea. Yeah, how about the one co
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star who Phil has become friends with. I don't know
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01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.440
your I don't know what your experience was with her,
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01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.639
but Phil has impressed me by bringing Jane Fonda to
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movie night, and you did the morning after with sitting.
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In the may and oh boy, and.
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She just had her eighty fifth birthday.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm seeing her tomorrow.
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She'll give her my love. She is so wonderful and
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such anat person, isn't she.
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That makes two of you, my friend, man, that makes
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01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:57.320
two you, right, both.
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Kids of legends. Yes, somehow come out of it. Uh,
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second generation Bonnie Rate some of the nicest people I've
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01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:06.880
ever met. Second generation stars.
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01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:10.280
Yeah, Liftgos that one of those guys too.
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Jeff right in Family Boy, you're great together in the show.
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It must be fun working with him.
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01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.400
Yeah, it's a ball. We have a lot of fun.
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Yeah. Well listen, Jeff Bridges, I know you have a
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lot of friends, but I'd like to just be one
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more okay.
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Wonderful to connect with you guys.
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Thank you and thanks for the class today.
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Thank you.
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Naked Lunch as a podcast by Phil Rosenthal and David Wilde.
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01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.039
Theme song and music by Brad Paisley, Produced by Will Sterling.
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Executive produced by Phil Rosenthal, David Wilde and Josephine Martarana.
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Engineering support by Brendan Burns and our consulting journalist is
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