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Coming from Nigeria way of Connecticut to Nashville performing Friday
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night at night Vision twenty twenty five.
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We have the one and only Blessing O for right friends.
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Well, you can say, oh, it's offer, but we accept
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all all kind of similar name pronunciations.
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Offer offer, got it?
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Yep, that's all right, all right, I'm not even.
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Gonna edit that. I'm an embarrasser. So we just released
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we like. I had something to do.
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With it, Bro, you had a lot to do with it.
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I was how was the inspiration for the new single?
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It was for you?
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Right?
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It was, hey, I honestly, when I listened to it,
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I felt like it was just for me, Like I
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felt like you wrote it for me. But lift me
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up so real quickly or as long as you want,
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because this is this is your time.
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Blessing sucks.
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Tell us about the new single Lift Me Up.
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I've not been passionate about a song like this in
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a very long time. I love this song. I I
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love and I mean I say this as they that
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wrote it with a couple of my friends, Like a
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song like this is first and foremost I needed to
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hear it, you know what I mean? It was a
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lot of honesty. It's been a really hard two and
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a half years post Record number one coming out, and
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I really wanted to make sure Record number two was
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as honest and as heartfelt and as like free of
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any like nonsense as possible. So Lift Me Up is
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our first attempt at at like changing the tone, because
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I really I think we all just spend so much
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time hiding and not saying what we need. And for
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a long time, I got through a lot of this
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season with Friends, and this was like the most honest
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song I could have ever written, you know what I mean,
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And it sounds awesome.
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I listened to it because it just released a couple
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of days before this. I listened to it before we
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got on and I first discovered you Well in Nashville
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Way with Them or in Colorado Away with Them was
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playing Brighter Days, and I thought that that was an
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absolute just jam of a song. I thought it was
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a beautiful sorow. And then to follow up with that,
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came out with with Toby Mack The Goodness, which was
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a mass as well. And I feel like, I don't know,
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maybe maybe you're just getting better with age, Like every
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time you put a song on, it just keeps getting
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better and better.
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And you know the A thank you be. My favorite
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part of putting out music is I always say to
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myself and my friends who have never been to church,
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hear this and hear themselves in it. You know what
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I mean. And so that's if you don't know anything
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about me, just know I grew up in Connecticut, I
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lived in New York. I did not grow up in
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like super churched places. So my music is meant for,
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of course believers, because you know, he who has ears,
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you know what I mean. But it's also meant for
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my friends who I would do life with in Brooklyn,
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right and in Nashville, New York any La. I lived
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in LA for six months, like the world needs this,
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if that makes any sense, and so if if if
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I can keep it a low barrier to entry so
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that they can hear the good things they need to hear,
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then so be it. You know what I mean. So
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I always shoot for that when I make music, so
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it is not an accident. And I just want you
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guys to come along on that journey because I think
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it's really beautiful.
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Now.
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On the Lift Me Up single, you released three songs
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you had all over the world and Jordan's. Huh, what
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is is? What's What's Jordan's about?
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Because Jordan's. Oh, I love that song a little behind
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the scenes. Jordan's actually wrote initially because I thought Maverick
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City was going to cut it, Okay, So I wrote
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it for this big choir, you know what I mean, right,
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And you can kind of hear that in it. I
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love that because it's kind of a lot of Old
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Testament imagery. Uh. And I love the titled Jordan's because
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everybody goes is that's about the shoes?
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That's yeah. The first time I heard it, that's what
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I thought too.
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And you know it kind of is it's like you're
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walking on Jordan's. So I just like to have fun
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when I write songs. And if you can have a
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good time and give people something to like hold on to,
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then you're doing.
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It right now. Since you mentioned Jordan's and I'm a
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sneaker guy me too. What what is your shoe?
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Like?
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What are we going to see at night? Vision?
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F ones? Okay, yeah, yeah, f ones.
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All right?
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I have.
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I have the red ones and the white ones.
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They're like the most comfortable shoes I have about every
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If I could if I walk my camera to my closet,
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you'll see a lot of air Forces in about every
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I've pink, I've sky Blue, I have.
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It's it's crazy, but I love those shoes.
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I don't know why now this is this is probably
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the most random question you've ever been asked?
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What size shoe do you wear?
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Ten and a half or eleven?
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I'll see Because we're very close to each other, I
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was going to.
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Come raid your closet, shop out some shop out, some
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air ones, air Force ones, but that's not my size.
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So coming to.
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Play night Vision, you're gonna be sharing the stage with
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some artists. You're gonna be sharing with Leanna Crawford, Streams
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and Hearts, Josiah Queen, Jeremy Camp's gonna close.
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The night out.
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Nice.
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Nice you and Leanna Crawford. You want to You guys
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are going on right before each other.
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Her and I I feel like I run into her
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at every show and she's always the coolest hang. If
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you guys don't know this her, I think husband, Yeah,
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it plays for the NBA, right or played for a
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long time for the NBA. So she's always got the
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coolest stories and she's just a lovely human. So you
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guys just come out for that show. It's gonna be fun.
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Josiah's gonna be there, Jeremy's gonna you know, just a
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fun time. Let's let's have a good time.
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And you know, since Leanna Crawford's husband is an NBA player,
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you know her shoe game is tight as well.
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I mean he literally brings her to the Nike factory
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and just pick what you want? What a flex?
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Right, Leanna? You gotta hook us up? All right?
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Please come on, I'll be friends with her husband, right.
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I will go with blessing. I'll be I'll be the
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entourage for the Yankee factory.
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Let's go bro.
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So for those that have you ever been to Grand Junction, Colorado?
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So I've been to a lot of parts of I've
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been to Fort Collins, Steamboat, Denver, obviously not Grand Junction.
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But I'm really excited. Okay, can't wait.
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So, by the way, it is going to be like
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one hundred and five degrees they perform, but try though,
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right like it's a very dry heat.
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Yes, perfect.
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So that is when you talk about what Jesus has
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done in your life, because if you think this is bad,
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way till hell, you know, like you can, you can.
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I just see, I just gave you the Segway right there.
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So a couple of years ago at night Vision Social Club,
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Misfits played right around the same time you're playing.
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Love It, and their computers overheated.
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Oh because it's so high. So well, listen. Luckily, I
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think I'm bringing my whole band. Okay, so listen. If
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that happened, we'll still have the best remever, he goes.
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My dudes, like we use tracks obviously, but like my
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players are cold, so they can do anything you need anytime.
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So I love those guys.
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So besides the heat, I wanted to warn you about
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the heat for the audience and Grand Junction and the
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night Vision crowd.
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What can they expect from.
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Your Lots of fun, lots of up tempo, a lot
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of the new music. I don't know, man, I am.
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I am a big believer in yes, the message and
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how it's delivered. And there's nothing in the Bible that
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says we cannot have a great time, you know what
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I mean. And so if you know anything about me,
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it's that I am a huge proponent of just having fun.
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So first and foremost tempo band, I have a killer
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set of musicians. So we're going to play play play
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play play, you know what I mean?
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Right, Yeah, you coming from Nigeria, went to Connecticut. Like
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you mentioned you, you were in New York and Brooklyn
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shout out to Williamsburg.
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Hey, come on, I loved I lived in none of
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those cool places for a long time. I lived in
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what's my neighborhood, I can't remember. It's a New u
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Trek in forty nine, so very Hasidic Jewish neighborhood.
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I'm sure you fit in well there. You were not
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stand out at all, did not love me.
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But you've had through that.
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You know, you've played you, You've done a bunch of
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stuff at the Kennedy Center. I saw that you're playing
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stage Coach right right before night Vision.
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So sir, backs boys, jelly Roll.
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You know, all the guys right stage Coach, a show
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with Lauren and Maverick and then uh and then that
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night Vision. So I'm excited.
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So right now, the big thing in Christian music is
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the jelly Roll Brandon Lake song.
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Yeah hard Thought Halloween.
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Oh yeah, So I want to give you a tip
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right now then, I think you should try to rip
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off Brandon Lake and just just do a song with
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Jelly Rolling. You guys can just see each other at
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stage coach and watch Brandon Lake the Blessing.
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You have no idea. They're like, what jelly roll is
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doing is I think what we need the most first
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in my personal opinion, because the message is supposed to
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be out there, right, you know what I mean, It's
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supposed to be out there, and I think sometimes believers
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kind of get scared of out there, you know what
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I mean, They're like not out there, and You're like, yes,
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out there, go, you know, go, we are sent sent forth.
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Like I love it. I love it so much. It's
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getting it's I mean, I'm excited for a good music
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and b CCM and they don't have to be different
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things and so yeah, super excited.
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Well it's someone like you who you've done a bunch
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of You've obviously done a bunch of Christian stuff and
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then you are doing a bunch of general market stuff
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and honestly, in Christian music, that is kind of like
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what everybody wants to do. They want to they want
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to have a they want to have a reach in
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both both field. Correct What advice would you give to
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somebody who wants to accomplish that.
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I would say, I'm going to be a scripture nerd
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and I'm going to say Paul says, I will be
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all things to all men so that some might be saved. Right.
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And I think if you want to be credible, and
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I'm learning too, so like being credible in the mainstream market.
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I think part of that is letting the mainstream market
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know that you don't think it's gross, you don't think
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it's icky, you don't think they're awful, you don't think
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you're not just there to tell them how h double
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hockey sticks bound that they are, you know what I mean?
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Like you respect them, you you you see. I mean
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we're all creative is because God is a creative you
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know what I mean. So even if a guy is
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creating and you and doing things you wouldn't you know, sanction,
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you still have to honor the genius of creativity, right,
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you know what I mean? And I think if you,
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if any any space you want to be in, and
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if you are not honoring of that space, then the
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space doesn't want you, you know what I mean? And
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that's just it. It is like I actually I love pop music.
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I love mainstreaming. I grew up on it. I didn't
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grow up on a lot of CCM, so that I'm
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a really weird Christian artist. I'm just I'm an artist
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who happens to really actually be a Christian, right, So
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my music has always been more mainstream, and I you know,
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at some point decided that's a feature, not a bug,
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you know what I mean. Yeah, that's just it. You
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just have to actually.
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Love it, you know, when you play the Kennedy Center
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or when you do stage coach or even back in
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the day when you're on the voice, What is the
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reception of like when you tell people like I'm a
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gospel artist or I'm a Christian, Like, is there initially
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a pushback because like, well, I know, like in Christian
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hip hop when people like, you know, like you'll have
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a lacray or whatever. This is before he became La Craye,
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but when he was starting.
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Off before Kendrick would shout him out once, you would
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have like.
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They would tell them that they're like they would tell
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people I'm a Christian rapper and people would automatically like
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disregard them.
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Have you experienced that, I haven't, because before I tell
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them on anything I play the music right. So again
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it's like labels are cute, but they're just labels. Do
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what you do, so I don't need to tell them anything.
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God is in what I do, period.
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So absolutely you see what I'm saying to uh. By
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the way, so.
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If you get a VIP ticket for night Vision, you
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can meet you can you can meet Blessing. Hopefully you're
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bringing your merchandise, because I was looking at your merchandise,
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and of course.
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You are, You're an artist.
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You gotta yeah, you gotta not only bring me bringing
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new merch you guys, so be ready.
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Because because the merch on your website is pretty dope.
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I do like the glasses I do all right, I'm
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gonna get there of glasses that night.
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Yeah, and the glass is safe for brighter days, which
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was my personal time.
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So with that song, that was hugely successful for you
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and and and the mainstream picked it up as well.
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You got mainstream play and I recently Christian just Swan
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dived into it. What was do you think you?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, please don't stop.
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What was that song?
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Like?
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Where did that come from? Because I know that song
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reached a lot of people.
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That song we wrote it mid pandemic me and Sam Ellis,
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because I was like, man, brighter days, it sounds so cheaty,
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you know what I mean. And then I said, all right,
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I said, if we're going to write this song and
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make it credible, we have to start with a line
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that you almost don't know what it means. And I
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was like, it's got to be weird. And so Ashes
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Fall from Burning Dreams was how is how that song
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opens after the first little chorus, you know what I mean? Right,
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And that was where everybody was like things were literally
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just like the world was going crazy. And so the
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only way you can credibly get to brighter Days is
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if you've gone through some things. Otherwise it's it's spiritual diabetes,
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you know what I mean, And that's not good. So
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that's how that song I think came about is as
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I always do. I go, you have to tell people
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where you've been before you can tell them about a victory.
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You know what I mean. Victory is nothing if it
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has no weight behind it, you see what I'm saying.
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So oh absolutely, and it sounds like you know, because
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you know, during the pandemic, there were some really bad
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songs that came out of the people were secluded.
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Yeah, they had no one testing the songs.
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They're all on their live streams on Instagram, just doing
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motions over and over again.
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Oh way, God help us.
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And then following that was goodness.
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Like I mentioned, you appeared on Toby Mack.
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How did that come about?
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I got a call. I'm sure there were some managers
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reaching out to managers, but I got a text from
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Toby and I was like, this is you know what
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I mean? Because even I, you know, growing up in Connecticut,
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not not really in youth group, I knew who DC
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talking Toty Mac, I knew those guys. So that was
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a big deal. So he's like, I've got this song,
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you want to check it. I was like, bro, you're
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totally back. Of course I'm gonna take it. So uh
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and I literally went over. We cut my verse in
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probably two hours, and I left really and cut my
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verse and my post chorus bridge thing and literally two.
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Hours and that song you're still getting played all the time. Bro.
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It's crazy, but it's what you know. Listen, I'm not mad.
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Radio keep playing that as well.
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My man for once listens.
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So you did Lift Me Up? What else do you
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have coming out this year? And well, we have any
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new music before night Vision in June?
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I think yes, actually a couple of new songs. I'm
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sure the new record comes out August eleventh, maybe August first, August.
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And dude, like I said, I'm so excited. The artist
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in me is so happy for this collection of songs.
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I can't wait for y'all to hear it. It is.
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It's one of those things where you're like, I'm going
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to stand behind this for the rest of my life
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because I love them that much. You know what I mean?
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Do you have a theme for it? Or is label
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not gonna allow you to talk about it?
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Well, I don't know if we've announced the name yet,
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but I promise you when you hear the name, you'll
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be like, yeah, that makes sense, do you know what
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I mean?
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So, once I'm done here, I'm driving over to twelve
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South and you like, whisper it in my ear.
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And not only that, if you pull up, I will
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play you the song the record right now it's here.
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You're just going to open your window. You're not even
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going to invite me in here's going to open your window?
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And be like, here, listen to it. Now, go just.
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Blast it off my balcony.
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So a couple more questions I asked on the night
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Vision Live Instagram. I asked people to submit questions and
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here's a tough one.
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Are you ready for this?
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I'm ready, I'm.
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Ready, Sarah and Fort Collins asks who is Jesus to you?
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WHOA that's questions? That was a good one, Sarah in
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Fort Collins coming in hot, Like, for the record, I
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love hard questions. Who is Jesus? I think for me,
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Jesus is and has always been and continues to be
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the most enigmatic, amazing, brilliant, humble person and god obviously
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that I have ever known. And like, what I love
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most about Jesus is he refuses to be boxed in
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right when you're My favorite quote says Art is meant
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to comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable, and Jesus
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anywhere you see him, he's doing just that. He's comforting
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people who are displaced, uncomfortable, unwanted, and he's disturbing people
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who think they have it all figured out. And there's
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no anybody who tries to put a box around him.
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He goes no, no, I'm not here for that, and I
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love that, you know what I mean? So he's I
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would say, Jesus to me, is that target that's ever
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moving so that none of us can boast that we
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have it?
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You know, amen, dude, Let's go another question. And I'm
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I don't even know how to pronounce this. It's I
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think it's Brian, but his handle and his handle was
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all all over the place.
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So Brian, get Brian, get a better handle, all.
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Right, Brian, get it together, Brian.
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He asked if you were making music. If you weren't
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making music, what do you think you'd be doing instead?
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Oh my god, guys, I am such a nerd. I'd
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be a lawyer. Really, I'd be an attorney. My uncle's
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a lawyer. I love books, I think a lot. I
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love philosophy. I like, you know, I am a nerd.
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If I yeah, I can't even tell you. I'd be
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a lawyer probably.
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All right.
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So those were those were the tough questions, and you know,
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we got other ones that were like what's your favorite cereal?
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And I'm like, I'm not I'd rather talk about Jesus
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than correct. Now I have one more question for you,
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and then we can get into wrapping up and you
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can tell everybody how awesome you are and why they
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should take it the night vision because you are awesome.
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But shucks.
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Going from I mean Nigeria, Connecticut to Nashville, what's the
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culture like?
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I mean how many? How different is it from every
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place you've lived?
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I can, I'll tell you because everybody wants.
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To move to Nashville and hope they're singing career You've
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been everywhere.
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Culture is an interesting thing. It's all different, right, Culture
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is different, but humans are the same, right, not interesting?
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Culture can look very different, right. Nigerian culture is different
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from I'll give you an example. I had a friend
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and I said, hey, if you and your mom come
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to my place, you guys can both Like, I have
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two bedrooms, I said, one of you can take my room,
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the other can take my guest room. I'll take the couch, right,
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And my friend said, why would you do that? I
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was like, because I would never let my guests sleep
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on a couch. You and your mom can have the beds.
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And they're like, blessing, that's so weird. That's my culture, right,
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So culture values, my culture values hospitality and and things
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like that. Generosity, blah blah blah. Some cultures think that's weird,
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and that's fine. There's neither. Culture is not necessarily right
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or wrong. But everywhere I've been, the common theme among
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all people is we want to be known and loved,
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taken care of and appreciated. We want to be happy
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and safe and all the things. So it's like humans
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are remarkably constant. Culture is different, if that makes any sense.
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You not only are a pretty face, but you're pretty deep.
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My friend.
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Hey man, I'm telling you I I these songs don't
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come from nothing.
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So Friday night night Vision, blessing going on, blessing over, Yeah, I.
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Thought I had it.
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Geez grace, grace on grace all right, So.
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When I see you at night vision, I'm gonna say
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it the right way.
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Actually say it the wrong way, and I'll know right
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You'll be like, oh no.
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That's mad, that's it. That's that, dude.
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I did the interview with you, came to my house
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at two am to hear my new music. Correct, you
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didn't even bring me food at that time.
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I mean, you know, Chick fil A was closed.
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I had to take you to the I had to
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go to the twice daily down the road from from
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twelfth by the way, memory, Yeah right over there, right
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over there, yeah right the White Bison, which, by the way,
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for those who want to come to Nashville, they have
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really good coffee, the White Bison. I I I have
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like the rewards program with White Bison.
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You're serious, Oh, dude, that's my that's.
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My place right there, don't they have one? They do?
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And I go there and they know me all the time,
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Like I'll be coming in with like Ala Craze hoodie
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on or and they like they're like, oh, yeah, there's that.
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Guy, you know.
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And then they start the order. That's the best.
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Part, dude. And they got good food.
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They got good breakfast food. So Friday night blessing offer
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how do dude, I.
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Know your stuff? Like, I feel like this is like
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going on a date and saying the wrong name at
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the date.
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Like I feel like I've failed second date.
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Yeah no, I'm getting blocked from this one. Blessing offered.
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Dot com is your website? Hit them up on Instagram,
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follow all the things. Thank you so much for your time,
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and we can't wait to see you on Friday night
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at night Vision twenty
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Times Colorado I'll be there so soon.
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Coming from Nigeria way of Connecticut to Nashville performing Friday
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night at night Vision twenty twenty five.
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We have the one and only Blessing O for right friends.
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Well, you can say, oh, it's offer, but we accept
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all all kind of similar name pronunciations.
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Offer offer, got it?
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Yep, that's all right, all right, I'm not even.
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Gonna edit that. I'm an embarrasser. So we just released
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we like. I had something to do.
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With it, Bro, you had a lot to do with it.
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I was how was the inspiration for the new single?
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It was for you?
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Right?
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It was, hey, I honestly, when I listened to it,
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felt like you wrote it for me. But lift me
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up so real quickly or as long as you want,
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because this is this is your time.
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Blessing sucks.
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Tell us about the new single Lift Me Up.
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I've not been passionate about a song like this in
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a very long time. I love this song. I I
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love and I mean I say this as they that
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wrote it with a couple of my friends, Like a
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song like this is first and foremost I needed to
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hear it, you know what I mean? It was a
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lot of honesty. It's been a really hard two and
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a half years post Record number one coming out, and
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I really wanted to make sure Record number two was
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as honest and as heartfelt and as like free of
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any like nonsense as possible. So Lift Me Up is
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our first attempt at at like changing the tone, because
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I really I think we all just spend so much
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time hiding and not saying what we need. And for
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a long time, I got through a lot of this
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season with Friends, and this was like the most honest
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song I could have ever written, you know what I mean,
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I listened to it because it just released a couple
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of days before this. I listened to it before we
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got on and I first discovered you Well in Nashville
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Way with Them or in Colorado Away with Them was
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playing Brighter Days, and I thought that that was an
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absolute just jam of a song. I thought it was
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a beautiful sorow. And then to follow up with that,
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came out with with Toby Mack The Goodness, which was
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a mass as well. And I feel like, I don't know,
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maybe maybe you're just getting better with age, Like every
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time you put a song on, it just keeps getting
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better and better.
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And you know the A thank you be. My favorite
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part of putting out music is I always say to
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myself and my friends who have never been to church,
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hear this and hear themselves in it. You know what
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I mean. And so that's if you don't know anything
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about me, just know I grew up in Connecticut, I
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lived in New York. I did not grow up in
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like super churched places. So my music is meant for,
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of course believers, because you know, he who has ears,
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you know what I mean. But it's also meant for
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my friends who I would do life with in Brooklyn,
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right and in Nashville, New York any La. I lived
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in LA for six months, like the world needs this,
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if that makes any sense, and so if if if
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I can keep it a low barrier to entry so
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that they can hear the good things they need to hear,
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then so be it. You know what I mean. So
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I always shoot for that when I make music, so
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it is not an accident. And I just want you
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guys to come along on that journey because I think
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it's really beautiful.
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Now.
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On the Lift Me Up single, you released three songs
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you had all over the world and Jordan's. Huh, what
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is is? What's What's Jordan's about?
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Because Jordan's. Oh, I love that song a little behind
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the scenes. Jordan's actually wrote initially because I thought Maverick
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City was going to cut it, Okay, So I wrote
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it for this big choir, you know what I mean, right,
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love that because it's kind of a lot of Old
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Testament imagery. Uh. And I love the titled Jordan's because
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everybody goes is that's about the shoes?
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That's yeah. The first time I heard it, that's what
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I thought too.
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walking on Jordan's. So I just like to have fun
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when I write songs. And if you can have a
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good time and give people something to like hold on to,
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then you're doing.
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It right now. Since you mentioned Jordan's and I'm a
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sneaker guy me too. What what is your shoe?
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Like?
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What are we going to see at night? Vision?
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F ones? Okay, yeah, yeah, f ones.
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All right?
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I have.
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I have the red ones and the white ones.
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They're like the most comfortable shoes I have about every
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If I could if I walk my camera to my closet,
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you'll see a lot of air Forces in about every
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I've pink, I've sky Blue, I have.
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It's it's crazy, but I love those shoes.
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I don't know why now this is this is probably
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the most random question you've ever been asked?
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What size shoe do you wear?
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Ten and a half or eleven?
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I'll see Because we're very close to each other, I
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was going to.
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Come raid your closet, shop out some shop out, some
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air ones, air Force ones, but that's not my size.
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So coming to.
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Play night Vision, you're gonna be sharing the stage with
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some artists. You're gonna be sharing with Leanna Crawford, Streams
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and Hearts, Josiah Queen, Jeremy Camp's gonna close.
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The night out.
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Nice.
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Nice you and Leanna Crawford. You want to You guys
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are going on right before each other.
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Her and I I feel like I run into her
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at every show and she's always the coolest hang. If
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you guys don't know this her, I think husband, Yeah,
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it plays for the NBA, right or played for a
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long time for the NBA. So she's always got the
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coolest stories and she's just a lovely human. So you
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guys just come out for that show. It's gonna be fun.
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Josiah's gonna be there, Jeremy's gonna you know, just a
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fun time. Let's let's have a good time.
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And you know, since Leanna Crawford's husband is an NBA player,
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you know her shoe game is tight as well.
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I mean he literally brings her to the Nike factory
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and just pick what you want? What a flex?
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Right, Leanna? You gotta hook us up? All right?
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Please come on, I'll be friends with her husband, right.
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I will go with blessing. I'll be I'll be the
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entourage for the Yankee factory.
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Let's go bro.
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So for those that have you ever been to Grand Junction, Colorado?
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been to Fort Collins, Steamboat, Denver, obviously not Grand Junction.
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But I'm really excited. Okay, can't wait.
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So, by the way, it is going to be like
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one hundred and five degrees they perform, but try though,
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right like it's a very dry heat.
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Yes, perfect.
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So that is when you talk about what Jesus has
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done in your life, because if you think this is bad,
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way till hell, you know, like you can, you can.
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I just see, I just gave you the Segway right there.
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So a couple of years ago at night Vision Social Club,
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Misfits played right around the same time you're playing.
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Love It, and their computers overheated.
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Oh because it's so high. So well, listen. Luckily, I
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think I'm bringing my whole band. Okay, so listen. If
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that happened, we'll still have the best remever, he goes.
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My dudes, like we use tracks obviously, but like my
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players are cold, so they can do anything you need anytime.
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So I love those guys.
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So besides the heat, I wanted to warn you about
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the heat for the audience and Grand Junction and the
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night Vision crowd.
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What can they expect from.
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Your Lots of fun, lots of up tempo, a lot
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of the new music. I don't know, man, I am.
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I am a big believer in yes, the message and
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how it's delivered. And there's nothing in the Bible that
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says we cannot have a great time, you know what
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I mean. And so if you know anything about me,
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it's that I am a huge proponent of just having fun.
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So first and foremost tempo band, I have a killer
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set of musicians. So we're going to play play play
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play play, you know what I mean?
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Right, Yeah, you coming from Nigeria, went to Connecticut. Like
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you mentioned you, you were in New York and Brooklyn
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shout out to Williamsburg.
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Hey, come on, I loved I lived in none of
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those cool places for a long time. I lived in
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what's my neighborhood, I can't remember. It's a New u
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Trek in forty nine, so very Hasidic Jewish neighborhood.
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I'm sure you fit in well there. You were not
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stand out at all, did not love me.
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But you've had through that.
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You know, you've played you, You've done a bunch of
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stuff at the Kennedy Center. I saw that you're playing
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stage Coach right right before night Vision.
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So sir, backs boys, jelly Roll.
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You know, all the guys right stage Coach, a show
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with Lauren and Maverick and then uh and then that
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night Vision. So I'm excited.
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So right now, the big thing in Christian music is
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the jelly Roll Brandon Lake song.
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Yeah hard Thought Halloween.
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Oh yeah, So I want to give you a tip
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right now then, I think you should try to rip
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off Brandon Lake and just just do a song with
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Jelly Rolling. You guys can just see each other at
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stage coach and watch Brandon Lake the Blessing.
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You have no idea. They're like, what jelly roll is
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doing is I think what we need the most first
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in my personal opinion, because the message is supposed to
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be out there, right, you know what I mean, It's
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supposed to be out there, and I think sometimes believers
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kind of get scared of out there, you know what
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I mean, They're like not out there, and You're like, yes,
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out there, go, you know, go, we are sent sent forth.
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Like I love it. I love it so much. It's
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getting it's I mean, I'm excited for a good music
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and b CCM and they don't have to be different
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things and so yeah, super excited.
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Well it's someone like you who you've done a bunch
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of You've obviously done a bunch of Christian stuff and
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then you are doing a bunch of general market stuff
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and honestly, in Christian music, that is kind of like
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what everybody wants to do. They want to they want
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to have a they want to have a reach in
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both both field. Correct What advice would you give to
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somebody who wants to accomplish that.
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I would say, I'm going to be a scripture nerd
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and I'm going to say Paul says, I will be
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all things to all men so that some might be saved. Right.
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And I think if you want to be credible, and
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I'm learning too, so like being credible in the mainstream market.
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know that you don't think it's gross, you don't think
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it's icky, you don't think they're awful, you don't think
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you're not just there to tell them how h double
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hockey sticks bound that they are, you know what I mean?
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Like you respect them, you you you see. I mean
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we're all creative is because God is a creative you
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know what I mean. So even if a guy is
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creating and you and doing things you wouldn't you know, sanction,
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you still have to honor the genius of creativity, right,
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you know what I mean? And I think if you,
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if any any space you want to be in, and
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if you are not honoring of that space, then the
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space doesn't want you, you know what I mean? And
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that's just it. It is like I actually I love pop music.
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I love mainstreaming. I grew up on it. I didn't
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grow up on a lot of CCM, so that I'm
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a really weird Christian artist. I'm just I'm an artist
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who happens to really actually be a Christian, right, So
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my music has always been more mainstream, and I you know,
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at some point decided that's a feature, not a bug,
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you know what I mean. Yeah, that's just it. You
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just have to actually.
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Love it, you know, when you play the Kennedy Center
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or when you do stage coach or even back in
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the day when you're on the voice, What is the
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reception of like when you tell people like I'm a
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gospel artist or I'm a Christian, Like, is there initially
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a pushback because like, well, I know, like in Christian
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hip hop when people like, you know, like you'll have
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a lacray or whatever. This is before he became La Craye,
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Off before Kendrick would shout him out once, you would
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have like.
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They would tell them that they're like they would tell
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people I'm a Christian rapper and people would automatically like
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disregard them.
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Have you experienced that, I haven't, because before I tell
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them on anything I play the music right. So again
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it's like labels are cute, but they're just labels. Do
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what you do, so I don't need to tell them anything.
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God is in what I do, period.
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So absolutely you see what I'm saying to uh. By
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the way, so.
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If you get a VIP ticket for night Vision, you
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can meet you can you can meet Blessing. Hopefully you're
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bringing your merchandise, because I was looking at your merchandise,
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and of course.
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You are, You're an artist.
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You gotta yeah, you gotta not only bring me bringing
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new merch you guys, so be ready.
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Because because the merch on your website is pretty dope.
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I do like the glasses I do all right, I'm
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gonna get there of glasses that night.
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Yeah, and the glass is safe for brighter days, which
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was my personal time.
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So with that song, that was hugely successful for you
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and and and the mainstream picked it up as well.
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You got mainstream play and I recently Christian just Swan
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dived into it. What was do you think you?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, please don't stop.
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What was that song?
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Like?
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Where did that come from? Because I know that song
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reached a lot of people.
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That song we wrote it mid pandemic me and Sam Ellis,
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And honestly, initially I didn't think too much of it
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because I was like, man, brighter days, it sounds so cheaty,
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you know what I mean. And then I said, all right,
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I said, if we're going to write this song and
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make it credible, we have to start with a line
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that you almost don't know what it means. And I
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was like, it's got to be weird. And so Ashes
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Fall from Burning Dreams was how is how that song
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opens after the first little chorus, you know what I mean? Right,
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And that was where everybody was like things were literally
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just like the world was going crazy. And so the
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only way you can credibly get to brighter Days is
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if you've gone through some things. Otherwise it's it's spiritual diabetes,
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you know what I mean, And that's not good. So
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that's how that song I think came about is as
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I always do. I go, you have to tell people
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where you've been before you can tell them about a victory.
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You know what I mean. Victory is nothing if it
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has no weight behind it, you see what I'm saying.
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So oh absolutely, and it sounds like you know, because
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you know, during the pandemic, there were some really bad
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songs that came out of the people were secluded.
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Yeah, they had no one testing the songs.
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They're all on their live streams on Instagram, just doing
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motions over and over again.
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Oh way, God help us.
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And then following that was goodness.
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Like I mentioned, you appeared on Toby Mack.
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How did that come about?
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I got a call. I'm sure there were some managers
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reaching out to managers, but I got a text from
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Toby and I was like, this is you know what
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I mean? Because even I, you know, growing up in Connecticut,
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not not really in youth group, I knew who DC
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talking Toty Mac, I knew those guys. So that was
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a big deal. So he's like, I've got this song,
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you want to check it. I was like, bro, you're
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totally back. Of course I'm gonna take it. So uh
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and I literally went over. We cut my verse in
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probably two hours, and I left really and cut my
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verse and my post chorus bridge thing and literally two.
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Hours and that song you're still getting played all the time. Bro.
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It's crazy, but it's what you know. Listen, I'm not mad.
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Radio keep playing that as well.
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My man for once listens.
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So you did Lift Me Up? What else do you
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have coming out this year? And well, we have any
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new music before night Vision in June?
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I think yes, actually a couple of new songs. I'm
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sure the new record comes out August eleventh, maybe August first, August.
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And dude, like I said, I'm so excited. The artist
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in me is so happy for this collection of songs.
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I can't wait for y'all to hear it. It is.
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It's one of those things where you're like, I'm going
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to stand behind this for the rest of my life
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because I love them that much. You know what I mean?
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Do you have a theme for it? Or is label
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not gonna allow you to talk about it?
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Well, I don't know if we've announced the name yet,
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but I promise you when you hear the name, you'll
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be like, yeah, that makes sense, do you know what
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I mean?
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So, once I'm done here, I'm driving over to twelve
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South and you like, whisper it in my ear.
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And not only that, if you pull up, I will
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play you the song the record right now it's here.
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You're just going to open your window. You're not even
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going to invite me in here's going to open your window?
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And be like, here, listen to it. Now, go just.
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Blast it off my balcony.
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So a couple more questions I asked on the night
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Vision Live Instagram. I asked people to submit questions and
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here's a tough one.
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Are you ready for this?
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I'm ready, I'm.
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Ready, Sarah and Fort Collins asks who is Jesus to you?
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WHOA that's questions? That was a good one, Sarah in
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Fort Collins coming in hot, Like, for the record, I
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love hard questions. Who is Jesus? I think for me,
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Jesus is and has always been and continues to be
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the most enigmatic, amazing, brilliant, humble person and god obviously
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that I have ever known. And like, what I love
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most about Jesus is he refuses to be boxed in
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right when you're My favorite quote says Art is meant
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to comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable, and Jesus
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anywhere you see him, he's doing just that. He's comforting
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people who are displaced, uncomfortable, unwanted, and he's disturbing people
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who think they have it all figured out. And there's
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no anybody who tries to put a box around him.
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He goes no, no, I'm not here for that, and I
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love that, you know what I mean? So he's I
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would say, Jesus to me, is that target that's ever
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moving so that none of us can boast that we
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have it?
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You know, amen, dude, Let's go another question. And I'm
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I don't even know how to pronounce this. It's I
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think it's Brian, but his handle and his handle was
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all all over the place.
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So Brian, get Brian, get a better handle, all.
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Right, Brian, get it together, Brian.
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He asked if you were making music. If you weren't
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making music, what do you think you'd be doing instead?
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Oh my god, guys, I am such a nerd. I'd
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be a lawyer. Really, I'd be an attorney. My uncle's
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a lawyer. I love books, I think a lot. I
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love philosophy. I like, you know, I am a nerd.
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If I yeah, I can't even tell you. I'd be
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a lawyer probably.
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All right.
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So those were those were the tough questions, and you know,
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we got other ones that were like what's your favorite cereal?
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And I'm like, I'm not I'd rather talk about Jesus
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than correct. Now I have one more question for you,
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and then we can get into wrapping up and you
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can tell everybody how awesome you are and why they
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should take it the night vision because you are awesome.
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But shucks.
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Going from I mean Nigeria, Connecticut to Nashville, what's the
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culture like?
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I mean how many? How different is it from every
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place you've lived?
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I can, I'll tell you because everybody wants.
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To move to Nashville and hope they're singing career You've
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been everywhere.
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Culture is an interesting thing. It's all different, right, Culture
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is different, but humans are the same, right, not interesting?
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Culture can look very different, right. Nigerian culture is different
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from I'll give you an example. I had a friend
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and I said, hey, if you and your mom come
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to my place, you guys can both Like, I have
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two bedrooms, I said, one of you can take my room,
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the other can take my guest room. I'll take the couch, right,
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And my friend said, why would you do that? I
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was like, because I would never let my guests sleep
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on a couch. You and your mom can have the beds.
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And they're like, blessing, that's so weird. That's my culture, right,
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So culture values, my culture values hospitality and and things
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like that. Generosity, blah blah blah. Some cultures think that's weird,
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and that's fine. There's neither. Culture is not necessarily right
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or wrong. But everywhere I've been, the common theme among
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all people is we want to be known and loved,
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taken care of and appreciated. We want to be happy
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and safe and all the things. So it's like humans
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are remarkably constant. Culture is different, if that makes any sense.
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You not only are a pretty face, but you're pretty deep.
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My friend.
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Hey man, I'm telling you I I these songs don't
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come from nothing.
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So Friday night night Vision, blessing going on, blessing over, Yeah, I.
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Thought I had it.
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Geez grace, grace on grace all right, So.
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When I see you at night vision, I'm gonna say
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it the right way.
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Actually say it the wrong way, and I'll know right
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You'll be like, oh no.
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That's mad, that's it. That's that, dude.
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I did the interview with you, came to my house
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at two am to hear my new music. Correct, you
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didn't even bring me food at that time.
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I mean, you know, Chick fil A was closed.
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I had to take you to the I had to
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go to the twice daily down the road from from
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twelfth by the way, memory, Yeah right over there, right
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over there, yeah right the White Bison, which, by the way,
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for those who want to come to Nashville, they have
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really good coffee, the White Bison. I I I have
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like the rewards program with White Bison.
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You're serious, Oh, dude, that's my that's.
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My place right there, don't they have one? They do?
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And I go there and they know me all the time,
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Like I'll be coming in with like Ala Craze hoodie
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on or and they like they're like, oh, yeah, there's that.
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Guy, you know.
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And then they start the order. That's the best.
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Part, dude. And they got good food.
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They got good breakfast food. So Friday night blessing offer
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how do dude, I.
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Know your stuff? Like, I feel like this is like
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going on a date and saying the wrong name at
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the date.
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Like I feel like I've failed second date.
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Yeah no, I'm getting blocked from this one. Blessing offered.
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Dot com is your website? Hit them up on Instagram,
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follow all the things. Thank you so much for your time,
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and we can't wait to see you on Friday night
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at night Vision twenty
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Times Colorado I'll be there so soon.
