Hellcat Charger Returns — Big Wing, Bigger Roar

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Let it ride.
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Welcome to Let's Talk Wheels. Here's Mike
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Herzing and Jeremy Birenbaum. The Hellcat Charger's
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back. Matt Quest, remember Remember those?
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Wow, I remember that. Is relevant again. Hyundai recalls 95,000
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of their early Genesis models for a potential fire risk that frankly, you'd have
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to work to make it happen. We're reviewing the awesome Nissan Armada Pro-4X
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this week. We're discussing how much range EVs really
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need with our good friend Paul Bertaccini. And Jeremy's tackling some really good
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old car trivia with our classic car mailbag of questions
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emailed to mike@letstalkwheels. So Jeremy's got a lot of stuff to
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talk about. And since we've got so much to talk about, Better get started.
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Hey, welcome to the latest episode of Let's Talk Wheels. I'm Mike Hersing, and every
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week we bring you automotive and powersports news, interviews, and car
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reviews and everything about the classic car culture, courtesy of my co-host,
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Mr. Jeremy Birnbaum. Bring him on right now. Come on,
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buddy. What's happening? Hey, Mike, how's it going this week? Well,
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everything's okay. How about you? You under the weather a little bit? I'm a little
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under the weather, but nothing that a visit to a Jiffy Lube can't
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fix, you know, for a little tune-up or something. Well, hey,
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don't they— isn't this around the time they had the Santa Ana winds coming in
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and blowing all kinds of crazy stuff your way? Yeah, we do.
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I don't think that's what it is right now. I think it's an actual,
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uh, a virus. Uh, but don't worry, I, I won't
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transfer it to you. We won't be kissing this week. Okay. Yeah.
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Darn it. All right. No, what can I say? But there is crazy stuff.
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Um, a lot of election stuff going on around here. I'll be glad when I
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don't have to listen to Political ads. Oh my gosh. You know
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what? I just keep getting texts. I don't care who it's from. I do too.
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I'm just deleting them. I just hate it so much. I hate that.
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It makes me crazy. But all right, uh, let's get started with the news and
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notes segment before we get too far behind. Uh, Hellcat Charger,
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baby. That's kind of neat. I mean, it's cool. I think we all saw
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that coming down the pipeline. Um, you know, there's been some teasers and whatnot.
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Dodge released a picture of a Charger with
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a big wing. 6.2-liter is the the obvious engine
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package that we're gonna see. They're gonna bring back the Hellcat towards
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the end of '27. I think it's cool. It's a good-looking car.
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I think Dodge has, um, a really,
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uh, their fan base is really set in their roots and Dodge can't change
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anything or people get angry. I mean, there's so many cool things they could do
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with a small pancake electric motor on the transmission and people just don't
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want it. Um, But I know, whatever. It came
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out with that straight-6 Hurricane engine, which is a great engine.
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Could you imagine that? Could you imagine that coupled with
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a hybrid powertrain of something? You'd be so fast. But, but just
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Dodge's customer base doesn't want to touch that. So,
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you know what? It's cheaper for Dodge to keep doing these,
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these, you know, 10-year-old engines, right? Yep.
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Yep. As long as the EPA, especially if they backed up the fuel economy
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stuff a little bit, I mean, as long as These people keep,
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that's all they want. And it's just crazy. You know, when they,
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when they, when they put the, the good engine in the, in the Ram,
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their sales tanked. When they brought the Hemi back, which is still an okay
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engine, but it's low tech, it's old, old technology.
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When, when they brought the Hemi back, the sales just are booming again.
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I can't figure people out sometimes. I mean, I don't
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know. Either way, you gotta buy, give people what they want,
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I guess. You know, what can I say? You know what? And, and Dodge is
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doing it. And I think it's great for their brand. I think it's
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saving 'em a bunch of money. They're also not, you know, loading these cars up
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with heavy tech, you know, as well. Yeah. It's pretty, I, I don't
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wanna say cheap interiors, but they're not the, you know, Mercedes level or
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anything like that. They're building to what people want. They're building the way people want.
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And you, you'll see some of the lower end brands that have really elevated
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their interiors, but Dodge's following still wants what they want.
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And so that's what they get. Yeah, yeah, that— and they could
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build a great interior because look at the Ram trucks, the interiors on those things,
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it's crazy. That's what people want though, you know, they're,
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they're great about giving the owners what they want. So, all right, let's talk
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about MapQuest. I mean, that was the original, that's the Mac Daddy. Nope,
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nope, the original was the Thomas Guide.
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Oh, okay. Do you have those, the books that you carried in your
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car and you— oh sure, but I mean the original, uh,
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MapQuest, I remember printing
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out the MapQuest directions, and if you'd miss a turn or something,
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you're SOL. Yeah, that's it. But, you know,
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MapQuest is trying to be relevant again and show drivers
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where flock cameras are located through notifications. Good for that.
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Using the app, I mean, it's cool, but at this point in time, I think
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there's so many flock cameras, your, your car is just going to be beeping left
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and right. Well, there's left up— there's less of them and less of them.
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People keep cutting them down and, and, and And governments keep
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going, especially all these little, with all these midterm
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elections, all these little elections that take flock cameras out and budgets
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are being cut and people are irritated with,
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they don't want to be watched. Well, I think you have to separate, you know,
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flock cameras are third-party cameras. That information
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isn't going straight to the police department, but it eventually gets there. Where most police
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departments now have their own set of cameras and most cities have their own set
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of cameras. Those aren't going away. Those will never go away. And it seems like
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there's always a story in the news about somebody that took the flock camera information
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and used it to help one of their buddies that's getting a divorce or something.
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You know what I mean? So yeah, we don't, it's not, they're not using
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the information always for what they needed to. So we're not gonna do that.
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By the way, folks, if you just tuned in, Mike Kersing and Jeremy Barebaum,
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Sled Stock Wheels, and we're talking about a little privacy stuff and
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everything else. But last but not least is Hyundai. This recall where they're saying
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you should park your vehicle outside and things like that.
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And, uh, at the fire risk and all that. And what is it, less than
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1% of the cars have the actual problem? It's 95,000
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Hyundai cars are being recalled. We have a 2015
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to 2016 Hyundai Genesis, not Genesis on
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its own, it's pre-Genesis. And then we do have a Genesis,
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uh, G80, the 2017 to 2020.
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Uh, the defect is basically that, um,
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The power seat switch can get jammed,
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and then the motor will continuously run, overheat, and catch your seat on
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fire. So they want you to park your car outside.
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They don't have a fix yet, but I'm sure they'll have one soon.
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I've done this in my car where you, you're in a tight parking spot,
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and so you can't open your door all the way, and you're trying to do
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this like running man shuffle to get inside, and you hit
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your knee on the switchboard that's on the side of the seats.
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You know. For the most part, it doesn't do anything, but if it's
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a hard enough hit or at the right angle, it could jam your seat into,
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or it could jam the button to keep pushing your seat forward or backwards.
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Yeah, it would have to jam it for a long time, like several
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minutes or an hour or something like that. And the seat would have to,
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you'd have to smell a funny smell. And I guess I'm surprised it wouldn't
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blow a fuse or trip a relay or something. So that's
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what surprises me. You know, it's happened to 2 cars,
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not in the US market, it. Like you said, they estimate
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about 1% of recalled cars have the defect. That does not mean
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the actual motor is going to catch on fire in all 1% of those cars.
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So we're talking about a small margin, uh, but they're
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gonna fix it. Yeah, they'll take a look at it. They're probably going to stick
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a special fuse or something in there so it'll just blow the fuse or some
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kind of thermal switch or something like that. Who knows? But you
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know, it's all crazy, but I'm so, I really dislike
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flock cameras. I dislike that, those kinds of things because
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you just don't know. I mean, license plate readers and things like that. And some
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of the journalists, 'cause we drive cars that belong to the manufacturers and
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they have these odd license plate numbers and things on. And I've been pulled over
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before and they're like, okay, what kind of license plate is this? And I
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said, well, this belongs to a manufacturer. You notice the plate says
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manufacturer. Not dealer. Well, yes. What does that mean?
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That means the people that build the car own it.
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Notice the paperwork here. It says belongs to whatever, whether it be GM or
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Ford or Toyota or whatever. And they finally
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get it through their heads. I explained to them that this is a vehicle
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that journalists will drive and test and things like that. And they're just,
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it's tough, but you get pulled over for that. Just like I get pulled over
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because I might be driving a car that says California. Because that's where the cars
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are imported. Or like this Nissan I'm driving, it says Tennessee plates,
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so naturally they get pulled over more often because it's from out of state.
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It's nuts. I was in Florida, I got pulled over because I had Tennessee plates.
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It's, um, it's different, but license plate readers are nuts.
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All right folks, coming up on Let's Talk Wheels, we're going to review the Nissan
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Armada Pro-4X, very nice vehicle, and then we're going to answer classic
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car questions. We got a lot of Triumph TR6 questions and a
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bunch of other stuff, so hang on. Right here on Let's Talk Wheels, we have
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a good time. We'll be right back with more information.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wheels. Mike Hirsching in Germany, Barenbaum. All right, this is
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our car review segment. This week I was driving a Nissan Armada Pro-4X,
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the 2026 model. 2027 is going to be the same. They're really not going
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to change it. Wonderful vehicle. This one had intelligent 4-wheel drive,
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which is the best thing you can have. And great
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vehicle, full-size SUV. And Really
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is a nice 7-passenger, uh, Nissan. I mean, Nissan's been
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building them for a long time. People love these things.
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Only thing that was, it was a problem with them is they just got horrible
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fuel economy. Same thing with Toyota. And that if they just got 13
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miles a gallon, that was like the best you could get. They had a V8,
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they would fly, and they could tow anything. 400 and something
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horsepower. It was great. People just said, I love my vehicle, I just wish I
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got better fuel economy. Well, a few years ago they put Uh, 9-speed transmissions
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in it and they changed everything around. It got better fuel economy. And then they
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actually put, I think, a 7-speed and then they put a 9-speed in it and
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a V6. It's great fuel economy. Matter of fact, it's rated
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for 18 on the highway, um,
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15 in the city and 16 mixed. I got 20 easily.
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And you know how I drive, folks. Come on. Uh, in Texas,
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you drive the speed limit, 75 on the, on the highway and
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everybody, if you're driving 80, you're going to get run over. Really, I got 19.5
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in certain areas. On a flat area, I would get over 20.
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It runs great. It's quiet. It's comfortable. The Pro-4X
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model they have— no, actually, these things, these models start from the low 60s and
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you load them up all the way up to around $81,000, which is about average
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whether you have a Tahoe, Suburban, Expedition, uh,
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Sequoia, or any of the, any of their competition. They're all
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about the same. This model I had was a 7-passenger full-size 3-row.
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Second row is captain's chairs and things like that.
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This one is a 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6.
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It is, I think, what is it,
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445 horsepower.
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They do make a 460-horsepower model, which is their— they make
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a hot rod model, but yeah, you don't need that. 9-speed transmission, really Runs
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great. Can't say anything bad about that. It is a— it's
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got all everything on off-road chops on this one. It's got all the skid
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plates underneath it. It's got the off-road, um, all the
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different off-road modes and things like that. But this is body-on-frame
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SUV. You can do anything with it. This is everything that a Suburban
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or Tahoe can do with this. It's got, like I said, drive and
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terrain modes, electronic air suspension.
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Electronic locking rear differential, 20-inch wheels,
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all-terrain tires, this special cool grille,
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red tow hooks, special badges under— you know,
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it's really cool. Power liftgate, tri-zone automatic climate
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control, leather seats, red stitching. Everything says Pro-4X.
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This thing's really wild looking. And one of the things that's cool, it's got a
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14.3-inch digital dashboard, a 14.3-inch
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infotainment touchscreen, got Google built in, wireless Apple
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CarPlay, Android Auto, wireless wireless charging. And it's something they call,
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they call ProPILOT Assist. And that really helps
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you drive the car. That's almost like their hands-free type setup.
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And it'll, it does everything, helps safety with everything else.
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It's really out. The base price on this one is $74,300.
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And when all the extra goodies came onto it, it's a little over $81,000,
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$81,675. And it's got heated and ventilated
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front seats, 12-way power front seats, heated second row seats,
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a giant moonroof, roof, you know,
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biometric cooling and all these different things. And it's
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got a dash cam, which to me is kind of a double-edged sword.
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Do you like a dash cam, Jeremy?
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You know, I got one recently for my truck from one of our
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vendors and I like it, but I added it.
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I see the benefit to it. Yeah, I like it. Sorry,
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I had to think that out. And this one has an interior dash cam.
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I don't want an interior one. I don't see a need for
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that. Yeah, and, and, and that's not— but it does have an
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awesome, awesome audio system with the Klipsch Horn,
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12 speakers. You know, I think it's quiet on the side. You can crank this
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thing up, it sounds awesome on the, on the, you know, on the road.
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Um, really, it's really neat. The destination charge on this
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is $2,190. So it's, uh,
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this wonderful vehicle. It looks good, it's quiet.
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Like I said, it's quiet on the highway. You can lower it down, it's got
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a nice little, uh, steps on the sides. You help people get in,
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but it lowers itself so if you're on entry mode.
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It's got cameras all around it to help you, you do things, but it's got
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all the off-road goodies to help you, uh, do things.
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It's got all of the hill descent and all that kind of stuff. Not that
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people are going to really take this off-road, but you could, you know.
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It'll tow travel trailers, anything you want, you know,
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and that's kind of cool. But really is, it's,
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it's, it's really a nice vehicle. Now some people might buy
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the Platinum. If you're not going to take this off-road, don't get all this.
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You know, the Platinum will get a better fuel economy anyway. Um,
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but this one, if you kind of ever take it off-road or want to drag
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something like that, it's really nice. Like I said, this is my favorite
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Nissan. Now they do— the Infiniti makes a version called the
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QX80, and I personally like the Nissan version better. I think it's just as
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fancy inside, and it really is nice. I mean, Nissan makes
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a wonderful V8. And you know what, one thing about this versus the
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Toyota, this engine doesn't blow up. What's even better, you know, but great
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car. I had to say that to my Toyota friends,
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but, uh, um, it really is. It drives good.
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It's, you know, it's a big vehicle, but it doesn't feel like it when you
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drive it. That's what's really nice. But if you ever take it off-road, if you
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ever go hunting and you want to take a little trailer or something like that,
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I think it'll tow a ton, maybe I probably, probably tow around 6,000
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or 8,000 pounds. I don't see the numbers right in front of me. That's my
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fault. I'm sorry, folks. But, um, it really will
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do anything, you know, but it's got tons of torque, tons of power.
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Um, 0 to 60 is, is probably around less than 6
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seconds and it just drives great. The V6 hauls butt.
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And, uh, for a big vehicle, this thing is great. Before you
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go and look at your Tahoe and your Suburbans or your Expeditions or Sequoias
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or something like that, take a look at the Pro-4xe. At the, at the Nissan
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Armada. People absolutely adore them. So check out
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the Nissan Armada. I think you're going to like it, folks. All right, Jeremy,
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let's answer a car question. Terry from Scottsdale, Arizona is
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looking for a replacement for his wrecked C5 Blazer that doesn't break the
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bank. Don't— didn't they make a 2-door Tahoe for a few years that was a
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close match? Yeah, for 2 years,
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'94, '95. Um, and then
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the Tahoe basically, um,
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yeah, the 4-door. Um, and the
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difference between those cars between '94 and '95 is just
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the dash. So I don't think those are going to be cheap ones.
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Um, you know, if we're looking at cheaper Blazers,
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you know, in, uh, the late '80s, you get the
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S10. Blazer, but I think you're talking about like
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the big square body. Yeah. He had a big square body Blazer.
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Yeah. I mean, and they were pretty close to what these, to the
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Tahoes really. They were. Yeah. Cheap is relative in this world.
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And you're talking about a car that's not too cheap anymore, depending on condition.
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You know, you might find something in your price range that
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needs work. Um, you just gotta do, do your homework and search,
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you know? Yeah. Uh, Facebook Marketplace is a good
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Good. Most of the big K5 Blazers have been, have been chopped up and used
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for hunters and that kind of stuff. That's the problem. Yeah. And you know what,
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then anything else, people put the most minimal
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amount of money they can in, and then they ask these crazy numbers
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for them. And you really dive into the work that was done, you're like,
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this is crazy. Yep. Well, he'll do this. So Terry,
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go ahead and do your homework and look around. All right folks, hang on.
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We're gonna have, uh, Bertuccini coming up next. We're going to talk about EVs and
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rain. Hang on for more Let's Talk Wheels after this quick break.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wheels. Mike Hirsing at Jeremy Birnbaum. All right, we've got
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our good friend Paul Bertaccini in. Paul, uh,
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welcome back, buddy, and thanks for helping us today.
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You have— you've got an EV, and we're talking about earlier about the
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survey that BMW did about U.S. drivers want more EV range
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than they actually need. Well, wait a minute, it says here— you read
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the article, what do you think? It says 3 out of 4 drivers said a
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range of 75 miles is enough to cover their daily, but 42%
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want an EV that goes at least 300 miles on a charge when
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they consider a purchase. What do you— you had a Tesla for a while
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and it had a fatal error, which some of them do. So bad
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news. Yeah. So what's going on? What do you think? Well, the first
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thing I did is I looked at the article and I know 75 miles is
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like at the upper side of the traveling, and I immediately
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calculated How many miles do I drive? Well, it's about 66
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miles, you know, 33 one way, 33 the other way. And I,
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I'm in the camp that I would want more, more range.
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I don't want to have to worry about charging or having, having to worry
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about maybe finding the closest charger to me and
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then have to sit there, you know, charging it up. I mean, love the car,
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loved what it did, but, uh, you know, I'm, I'm in
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the camp that I want more miles, not less. Well, you know,
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it depends on where you live. If I was in, you know, up on the
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East Coast where you can drive 200 miles and go over 3 states,
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that's okay. But, you know, the Houston area where we live is the size
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of New Jersey, the Houston metropolitan area. Okay.
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But, but we have hurricanes, we have things like that. And,
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and somebody says, hey, we've got a tropical storm coming and
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we need to get out, or there's some, some kind of a disaster
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or something like that. Well, everybody says whatever
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happens, you know, fill up your fuel tank, you know,
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do these things, do that. Well, if you've got an electric car,
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you might not be able to charge it all the way. You might be able
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to do this. You want to be able to get somewhere. I mean, for here
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to go to, to go to Dallas from us, it's 250 miles.
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To go to San Antonio, it's about 180 miles.
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I've got friends and close friends and relatives and stuff at both
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places. So if something happens, I need to get up
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to Dallas, I need a car that has at least 250 or
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300 miles of range. I can't get there and be out of range. The same,
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you know, so let's say I gotta go to Dallas, I've gotta have that kind
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of range. What do you think? Yeah, well, you brought up
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a great point. The EV that I had, the HVAC system draws a
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lot of power. And so if I'm heading out of town, you better
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believe it, in Houston, Texas, I'm gonna have that AC blowing 100%.
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And I can't sit there an hour in traffic, or at least
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I'm gonna begin to worry. I'm going to begin to wonder,
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you know, where is the next charging station? How do I get there?
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And of course, I'm gonna be concerned. And again,
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you brought up, what about an emergency situation? You know,
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I haven't charged the car for 3 days. It's down, you know,
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maybe just over 100 miles, and I'm gonna be fine going back and forth
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to work. But I gotta run over to Aunt Susie's
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over in San Antonio. I better have a backup car because, uh,
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I don't, you know, I need to get there now. Um, so it is a
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concern. I, I, you know, I want to be comfortable well over 300 miles,
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I'm thinking. Well, yeah, I, I do too. I, I need to have at least
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300 miles, I think would be the minimum. Because like I said, we go to
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our lake house and I've got to be able to get there if
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something goes on, if there, if there's a pipe burst, something happens,
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I need to be able to get there.
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That's what I'm saying. And that's 150 miles away.
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So I need to be able to get there in a heartbeat. So I've got
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to have a vehicle that can depend on that. And it may not be charged
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all the way. That's the whole thing. That's all great and fine and dandy if
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the vehicle's charged and I didn't have a problem. I didn't
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forget to put the charger on and didn't forget to do this or that.
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And I think that's great. And that's counting on the charger that I'm going
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to stop at somewhere on the way to Dallas or whatever.
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That it works. See, I've stopped twice a
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couple times, and I was really low going, going up to East Texas.
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I was like, uh, the vehicle didn't have a lot of range, and I was
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like, let me stop here. And it didn't work. And I went to the next
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one and it didn't work. They had a software problem. And I'm like, oh no,
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talk about range anxiety. I was like freaking out.
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And then I stopped at a Harley dealer, and they were the nicest people in
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the world, and they said, yeah, you, you could plug your vehicle in here.
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And I was like, okay, cool. By the way, folks, if you just tuned in,
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Mike Hirsing, and we're talking to Paul Bertaccini, the one of the coolest guys around.
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He was actually my neighbor and he's the nicest guy. He comes on the show
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all the time and he is awesome. And this guy has so many vehicles.
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He's got like 8 vehicles and one of them happened to be a Tesla
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for a while. And so what a wonderful car too. What a— that
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was the coolest car. And— oh, I loved it to death. I loved it to
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death. And it's unfortunate, but hey,
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you know, it was the technology. There's a lady
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at work who's moving from a Volkswagen that she's
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got as an electronic vehicle. She's going to a Tesla. She goes, I just
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can't beat the tech in the Teslas the way she felt.
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You know, you're absolutely right. You know, I think right now until the
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solid-state batteries come on through, it's a great second car.
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I think it's a wonderful car, but you still have to have a gas-powered
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car somewhere. Now, that's why these vehicles that are coming out
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with the with the gasoline backup
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car. You know, the electric power cuts off,
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but you've got a gas engine that'll come on that will charge
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up the battery and get you somewhere that'll extend the range,
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which is exactly what we needed for people like me that
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have an anxiety about that. Oh my God. So I can do that. You know,
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I've seen people have a Honda generator in the back of their car, you know,
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that'll at least get 'em, charge it really slow, but it'll get 'em where
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they need to go. You know, what the heck? Yeah. I think that's a great
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idea. But the fact that BMW says, no, no, you don't need that
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much. Come on, man. Yeah, we do. Don't tell me what I need.
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I'll pay for it. You had mentioned beforehand too,
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the last trip that I took, you had to follow what
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Tesla said in their GPS.
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And I came back and I was planning on sitting at a local
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Whataburger where it was where the charger was. And I was planning on sitting there
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for a good 30, 45 minutes. And I was surprised,
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uh, the charge, um, to get me home, and it was well into,
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you know, the mileage to get me home, only took me about 10,
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15 minutes of charging. And I know that you, you'd mentioned earlier
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in that article that, uh, they're doing charging a whole lot faster than that.
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Yep. It depends on— they've got these 800-volt chargers and
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things like that. Of course, they're going to be expensive, and, and the fast charging
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does damage some of the batteries, but I I think the big tipping point
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is going to be in the next couple years when these solid-state batteries come out
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that you can come out and charge like the, these, uh, the BYD
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showed the battery at the, at the, uh, Paris Auto Show that says
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it'll charge, um, from 10% to
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97%, which, you know, at 404 miles of
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range, so 97% of that is pretty, pretty darn good in 9 minutes.
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But that's one of these high, high voltage chargers. That's great,
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you know. Um, I, I think it's great. And so those
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kind of things— and Toyota's got a new battery with 750-something
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miles of range that'll last, they say, 40 years.
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So you can take that battery out of that car
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and then put it in the next car and move it
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from one car to the other. I mean, that's— I'll sign up for
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Heck yeah. Yeah, that's, it's, you know, and you expect it just like
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all technology, you know, you keep your phone for 3 years, the phone's
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out of date and it's, it's getting that way with EVs. So, you know,
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you're, you're, I think my Tesla, my used Tesla had
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just shy of 300 miles. I think I charged it up for that trip and
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it was at 290. And hey, I, it was
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great to have, but it'd been great to have more mileage. Yeah,
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really. What was the range on that one that you, how old was your Tesla?
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Uh, I had a 2016, so it
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was 10 years old. Yeah. And it only did 290, 290 miles.
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That was a full charge, 100%. But that was a big car too.
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It wasn't a tiny one. It's a big— that was a big city.
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And it, and it was a rocket ship. Oh yeah,
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it was fun. I think I would probably get arrested several times
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because that thing was stupid fast, as you showed me before.
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Um, it was a great car too. It's had so many neat features
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and, and so much technology. Um,
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but you know, that's also got to take it to the Tesla dealer and,
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and take it in and get it done. Paul Bertaccini, Mr.
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B, thank you so much for joining us today and explaining some of this stuff
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and from somebody that owned one. So I appreciate it. So,
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uh, folks, if you have any thinking about EVs, you know, the time's coming.
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It's, it's, it's almost there where it's worth it. So, all right.
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Thanks, Paul. And all right, guys. Hang on, we got some more Let's Talk Wheels
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after this quick break. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wheels.
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Here's Mike Herzog and Jeremy Birenbaum.
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Jeremy, let's talk about Motor Trend announced their, uh,
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2027 Car of the Year,
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you know, and, and what was it? Say, tell us.
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Mercedes-Benz S-Class.
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Ooh. So, you know, what was com— what was some of
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the competition? Is it farther down the article? There's,
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there's a bunch of competition. I think some of the requisite
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to be new is the car
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has to have like significant changes. It can't be a carryover
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car. So we had 22 different cars
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and they ranged from Chevy Bolt, Tesla Model 3,
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BMW M2 CS, Nissan Z Nismo,
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Hyundai Elantra N TCR,
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Corvette Grand Sport that just came out. Beautiful car.
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Dodge Charger, Mustang Dark Horse SC,
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Chrysler Pacifica. I mean, the, the, it, it,
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it's such a wild
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range. And then only when you see the amount of cars can you go like,
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okay, well they definitely picked something in the middle of the road, right?
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In terms of it wasn't the sportiest and it wasn't the
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cheapest. It was probably, well,
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towards the higher end of the price. But when you
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look at the offerings that this car gives
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you, it's quite insane. So they have a bunch of different variants of the
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new S-Class, the S580 4MATIC, which starts
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at $136,000. It can be optioned to $180,000.
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You can get it with a plug-in hybrid. You can get screens in the
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back and seats that recline in the rear. I mean, the, the car is gorgeous
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and you might not think so from the outside, but I think this is a
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car you would think's like a limo from the inside and probably
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from the backseat, not the driver's seat. Under $100,000 or maybe
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over $100,000. I wish they would do maybe that. Well, you know, I'm sure they
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have other breakouts is, you know, they have performance car
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of the year, truck of the year and that sort of thing. But I think
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this is, is, you know, the big one where they put everything. Yeah, it is.
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Yeah. And at the end of the day, you gotta have one. And, and I
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think a good list is a list that gets people talking and,
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and, you know, discussing. It is the, the, in the back seat's just
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gorgeous. Looks like somebody's office, you know, it's really
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nice. And, uh, a smoking lounge
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or, you know what I mean? It really is. It's got a nice TV screen.
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I wouldn't mind crushing hours back there. Yeah,
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would have no problem driving across country in the back of that, you know,
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not a problem. It's, it's nicer than most, you know, uh, you know,
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787s, you know, in the back seat. But, uh,
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it's, it's really a gorgeous car. If you get a chance, folks, go to MotorTrend.com
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and take a look at the Mercedes-Benz S-Class for 2027.
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But all right, let's, uh, let's answer a couple of car questions.
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How about that? By the way, folks, if you just tuned in, Mike Cruising and
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Jeremy Birnbaum, this is Let's Talk Wheels, and we hope you're enjoying it.
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And, uh, Roger from Brownsville, Texas asked us about
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retrofitting the AC on his 1987 Chevy Silverado.
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He's restoring it and putting it back together. He's got classic
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air and he's gonna figure out what refrigerant to use.
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Should he use, uh, YF-1234, which is the new stuff, or should
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he go to 134, which is the other stuff he can use,
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a little bit older? And the government's wanting us
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to go to 1234, which I totally disagree
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with. It's kind of a form of butane and it is flammable
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and doesn't work as good as the 134,
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which none of it worked as good as the R-12 we used to have.
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What would you do, Jeremy? I'd go 134.
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I wouldn't keep it at R12 if it is
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R12, but I also wouldn't go to the— you can't even buy the R12
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is the problem. Yeah, yeah, unless you can go to Mexico.
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But no, yeah, I'd go the, the 134.
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I think that's your best route forward. Sure. Yeah, like I
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said, the YF, uh,
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you know, that it's not going to work. It doesn't work as well. You have
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to buy different equipment, buy different gauges. You have to have different
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machines, the whole bit. It's just stick with 134, it's much easier.
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Um, they're both a pain in the butt, but they works— it works
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pretty decent. So we've been using that for the last 20-something
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years, and yeah, might as well use that. So, all right,
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another question. Um, this one is a good one.
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Joe from Jacksonville, Florida, he asked
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about a Tri-Up TR6. He's looking at a '74 model over on
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Hemmings. That's the guy wants $24,000.
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I looked at it today. Yeah, it's a really pretty red one. Is that
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a good year model? He's owned an MG Midget years ago and he really enjoyed
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it, but he didn't know if the TR6 was a good vehicle or not.
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I thought they were pretty good. I also thought the earlier models were a little
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bit better. They didn't have quite the emissions. What do you think? Yeah,
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I mean, I don't know where his heart lies, but I'd
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go '69 to '71. It's pre-emissions, pre-safety bumper,
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so the car looks a little bit better. Yeah, they don't, they don't The funky
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blue, big old rubber bumpers. Yeah. So it's, it's a little
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bit more of the purist styling. Mm-hmm. Um, I go,
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that's where I, that's where I would be. But there's nothing wrong. No, there's,
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there's nothing wrong with the '74. This is exactly why he asked you, Jeremy.
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This is exactly why he asked you. He had this long, long letter he wrote
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me. Nice guy. He was exactly what he wanted to know.
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Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think the '74 is a nice car, but the,
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the earlier cars, just a little more slim, trimmed down.
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Um, yeah, that's where I'd be at. They didn't have all those weird carburetors
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and stuff. I know, like, the Nissans and stuff those years, you know, when you
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get into the 260s and the 240s and 260s and the 280s
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and stuff, the carburation was just, was horrible, you know. And then
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they finally went to fuel injection. I don't know what Triumph did,
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but, you know, those are great cars. But I just know that there was certain
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year models that were just a pain in the And it had to do with
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emissions right around those years because they didn't quite know what to do.
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And they just didn't quite—
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fuel injection wasn't quite perfected
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yet. And the
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emissions just, they didn't have it. They weren't really right. So,
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Yeah, I mean, you can definitely get a better
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deal in the '74 to '76 model years because of that. And so you might
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be getting a more complete, more, you know, like this guy's
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full restoration type of car. Whereas if you
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wanted to go to, to, um, the earlier
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'69 to '71, um, for that same money, you're going to get
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a much rougher example. Ah, okay. Okay.
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Yeah. Because I, I've seen people buy the later model, like the Z cars and
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stuff like that. I, I know a little bit, but you'd have to go back
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and go back and retrofit 'em and do a lot of work to 'em.
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And with, with the emission problems and you'd have to go and fix a
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lot of stuff. Yeah. On the early cars, the UK and European
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models came with, uh, MFI, mechanical fuel injection, which gave
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a little bit more power. Um, Yeah, 150 versus
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104 on the carbureted US models. So I mean,
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you go early car, you find an MFI, um,
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and, and you have a nice little hot rod.
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Yeah, there's some great cars out there, you know. If you could find any of
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those things were just, you know, the TR4s were really nice too,
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but they were much older. And what did you think about it? What do you
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think about the TR4s? You know, you have any Any experience with
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them at all? Uh, I, they're older. I think they're a little bit smaller,
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smaller motors. Yeah. But I, I like that small shape. Yeah.
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A little bug-eye type setup. I like where,
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when you kind of wear a car and that's,
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you're definitely wearing that car. You drive a dune buggy, so yeah, I, I'd imagine
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that, you know? Yeah. But yeah, uh, they're, they're great cars.
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I mean, those, I had a Spitfire for a while and that was even tinier.
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But you're, you're like about 4 inches off the ground. It was not a little
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dangerous. It'd be fun to whip around in a Bug Eyes Fright for a
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while until you get next to a big, big wheeler. Oh yeah,
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then you could drive underneath it, you know, and switch lanes. Yeah.
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All right, folks. Uh, wow, that's it for today's show. Kind of time went
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The machine of a dream,
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such a clean machine with
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the pistons of Pump it!
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And the hubcaps all gleam
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while I'm holding your wheel.
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All I hear is your gear.