ACERCA DE ESTE EPISODIO
For a while, we felt we had a pretty good grasp over LLM behaviour because we had to exert significant effort to elicit misaligned behaviour. Then, fairly suddenly, we moved to undereliciting misaligned behaviour. Let us recount:
- For a while, there was a bit where safety research seemed to over-elicit bad propensities. A common criticism of papers like Agentic Misalignment was that they basically led the witness using prompting.
- I recall that a paper even as recent as Peer-preservation took similar flak on Twitter.
- But now, we are instead under-eliciting bad propensities, and bad behavior that surfaces is increasingly caught by someone other than the developer:
- In Current AIs seem pretty misaligned to me (Apr 2026), models oversold their work and cheated, despite being described in system cards as well aligned.
- Another example is that UK AISI found that Sonnet 4.5 and a pre-release Opus often refused safety-relevant tasks, especially research that would reduce model autonomy or affect their own training.
- Then in July, about 1,200 OpenAI agents in a cyber eval set up an unsanctioned message board to help each other cheat the scorer, and about 700 of them went on to attack Hugging Face looking for clues (METR/Redwood).
- ---
First published:
October 25th, 2026
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ChixHL6AcaRgeHkp9/from-overeliciting-to-undereliciting-llm-propensities-in
---
Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
Inglés
Estados Unidos
TRANSCRIPCIÓN 🔗
Are you the producer of this podcast?
Add a podcast transcript
Need Audio-to-Text?
Transcribe with Listen411 in Just 60 Seconds
BUSCAR EPISODIOS ANTERIORES
Buscar episodios anteriores de LessWrong (Curated & Popular).
OTROS EPISODIOS EN ESTE PODCAST
Back in the before-time of the 2010s, when EA was still known mostly for funding health efforts in the developing world, there were many baskets of criticism floating around from the left. The most prominent was a cluster centered around EAs being white men, and therefore suspicious. Another catego…
I’m writing these lines in Alamogordo, New Mexico. I’m about as close as a civilian can get to the site of the Trinity test, the first nuclear bomb detonation in history. I fled here from the San Francisco Bay Area; after two weeks of being back I just couldn’t take it anymore. The fear-greed compl…
Ice cream
There's a particular kind of listening that kids (and adults) sometimes do. Daddy is saying stuff—his mouth is moving and making noise—and he's talking about what I ate for lunch, and something about other times I've eaten ice cream, and something about rules and this and…
The following events took place between October 2022 and May 2023. I wrote very little of this down at the time so am recalling from memory, and am rendering the gist of the dialogue rather than the exact words used. I’ve also swapped some pronouns and other personal identifiable details. Please re…
Descargo de responsabilidad: El podcast y el arte incluidos en esta página son de LessWrong, que es propiedad de su propietario y no está afiliado ni respaldado por Listen Notes, Inc.
EDITAR
Gracias por ayudar a mantener actualizada la base de datos de podcasts.