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Today's conversation is around women's planning.
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And the genesis of this is actually a contemplation that was given to me by my mentor, and that the women in my mastermind have been speaking about and processing together around the respect that we have for the work that we do, what we're bringing to the world, and if we're really honoring it to the level that it should indeed be at.
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Where women's planning comes in is I've posted a few videos on recently on TikTok and on Instagram.
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You can go check those out.
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But it's essentially about men over the age of 40 being in what I call the midlife tunnel and them having what I call this fuck you moment, a moment where they reach in their lives where they say, That's it, no more.
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I'm not doing life like this anymore.
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Something needs to change.
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And that's often where men land up in my world and saying, Hey, Mish, I just need kind of a little bit of help.
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I realize I can't see my own blind spots, and I'd love to work with you.
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There are times, it's probably about 5% of the comments that I get or the DMs of men saying, You're a woman's planing, you don't know what you're talking about.
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How is it possible that a woman can understand what a men is what men are feeling, what they're going through, all these sorts of things.
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And that's what I want to speak about today because it links really beautifully into the level of respect that I have for the work that I do and the men that I serve.
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And so I was recently having this conversation with this gentleman on uh on Instagram, and he made the flippant comments about, you know, a woman, woman's planing, right?
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Now, when I receive a comment like this about women's planing, what I usually say is this all the wisdom that I've received in my life, I haven't really paid too much attention to the source of where it's coming from.
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And the reason is because when the wisdom lands, I can feel it in my body.
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It's like a truth.
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And that's when I gain the lesson and I go, awesome, that's for me great.
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And that's what's allowed me to progress in my evolution of what it is to be a woman and what it is to be a human on this planet.
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And so I invited this person to say, you know, um, sometimes I've received wisdom from kids, from little children.
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Sometimes I've received wisdom from nature.
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Sometimes I've received wisdom from men.
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Uh, sometimes I've received wisdom from women.
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Wisdom is all around us.
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And if we're open to it, we can really receive a lot of information that'll help us navigate this life in a more beautiful way.
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I want to share a little bit about when I got the idea, the download, the message from what I believe is my highest self, and I'm not going to go into the details of that particular happening.
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You can watch that on my YouTube channel.
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It's the first video, it's actually the intro video.
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It's called Why Like Women Lead Men question mark.
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And I'll tell you the whole story of how I received the mission of Kings of Compassion.
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But it was a clear voice.
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It was a very clear voice that said, Mish, we would like you to lead men.
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Now, something really important for you to understand is when it comes to women, the main thing that drives our instinctual behavior is safety.
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For us, safety is a big thing because we know inherently we are weaker than men.
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And if we are out in the wild, in the wilderness, we could fall prey to that uh strength, and eventually that would lead to our death.
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So it's instinctual, it's not like we kind of think about it, and that's true for me.
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And there was a really powerful uh exercise that Alison Armstrong did in one of her workshops.
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Um, Alison, by the way, is one of the greats in this um in this industry of of teaching men about women and women about men.
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And in this workshop, she there's a whole bunch of people, it's like a mixture of men and women.
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And she asks the men, guys, I want you to think about the last time you felt your life was really in danger and you felt fear about that.
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So we scan like the workshop and kind of look at all the men, and she says, Okay, put your hand up if it was like last week, no one puts their hand up.
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Last month, no one puts their hands up, no men put their hand up.
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She says, Okay, what about in the last year where you felt that your life was in danger?
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And I think like one, maybe two men put their hand up.
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She's like, Okay.
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In the last two years, and a couple of more put their hands up.
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And she's like, Okay, in the last five years, more hands go up.
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And then in the last decade, and more hands go up.
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And the women are looking around like, wow, this is this is crazy.
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Um then she asks the same question to the woman, and she says, Okay, ladies, when was the last time you felt fear for your life more than 10 years ago?
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No one puts their hands up.
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More than five years ago, no one puts their hands up.
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More than six months ago, very few, maybe one or two, and this is an audience of about 200.
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Very, very few people put their hand up.
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She says, within the last six months, and she says, Okay, now I want you to keep your hand up, okay?
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So, like majority of women, their hands are up within the last six months.
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And then she counts down, and like she gets to like yesterday or last night, and there's still women with their hands up.
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And for me, I can speak to that as a hundred percent truth.
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The last time I felt fear for my life was last night.
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I was home alone, I heard a noise, and instinctively my mind went, is someone gonna come in and kill me?
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Okay, fear for my life, it's true.
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And so when I received this message, this download from my highest self, spirit, God, mother, nature, the universe, whatever you want to call it, the first thing I thought was, this is nuts.
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Who am I to lead men?
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I don't know that deeply about man coaching I've done for many years, but like what it is to be a man, I'm not a man, I never will be a man.
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How like this doesn't make sense.
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I was the first one to think that the idea was ludicrous, that it was crazy, but there was a really strong calling in my heart.
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And so I was like, okay, and in my experience, every time I've had a depth of this sort of message, I know that it's important to listen to it, and so I started to take um I started to take it seriously.
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And so I started to research, and one of the things that really came to the forefront was me watching my dad in his last week of his life, and I was really thinking about the times we had spent together and the times we had it, and there was a desire for me.
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I kind of really thought to myself, I wish I had known my dad better.
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Not because um, you know, it wasn't through the fault of anyone, it just wasn't isn't.
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I left South Africa at a very young age because I felt like there was no opportunities.
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He was working a lot.
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We all dealt with our family programs, but I wish I'd been closer and known my dad better.
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And I believe we were stopped from that connection because of the old programs that we had running our subconscious.
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Okay.
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And so that was a big driver.
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And I was like, wow, okay, so this must be affecting other daughters or other kids in the world, of course.
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So that's a good reason to go and find out.
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And so I continued and I started to um started to go deeper into it.
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Um, and then I started to research, and there's these adages that come up, like there's this one famous one, I'm sure you've heard it, where women get asked, are you more afraid to would you rather walk into a forest and meet a bear, or would you rather walk into a forest and meet a man?
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A majority of women say I would meet a man, um a bear.
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And the reason being is because the forest, the woodlands, is a natural habitat for the bear.
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In a woman's mind, she's like, What the hell is a dude doing in the forest?
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That's nuts.
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What why is he there?
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What's he doing?
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It's not normal, it's not safe.
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Doesn't mean that men are dangerous and all of that.
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I'm not saying that, but that's the instinctive mind kicking in from a place of safety, like I explained earlier.
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And so then I was like, okay, this idea is still really, it's really nuts.
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What makes it even more nuts?
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What makes it even more nuts for me, which I had to get my head and heart around, was the fact that on the most part, I have been in long-term relationships with women.
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I don't even date men, I'm not married to men.
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It's like, how can I coach or lead men when a lot of the questions that they come to me with is around relationships.
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I don't date them.
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And so that was like, and then I started to consider okay, what sort of response am I gonna get from when I go out on online?
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Because I know that being online and on the social media platforms, it's important to have a message and all of that.
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What response and what like feedback am I gonna get when I start going with this message?
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And from a safety point of view, that was scary for me.
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I had to go and do the work.
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And so then I started to go and research.
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And if you start your research in men, here's some of the things that I found, and you'll find this as well.
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I interviewed a lot of men.
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I said, tell me what's your experience about men and their ability to process emotions, to kind of um just be themselves, all these sorts of things.
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And I spoke to a guy who's running his own men's group, and he said, My men's group is broken.
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People don't want to come.
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I spoke, I spoke to guys who said, I don't want to be part of a men's group because it's all performance and they all try and outperform each other.
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So for him, he didn't feel safe.
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I spoke to men who said, we don't have a place to cry or to share our emotions, and we don't know how to process our emotions.
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We were never taught how to do that.
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And then I discovered that three out of every four people who commit suicide on this planet are men.
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That's 1,500 men a day are dying, and that's directly related to mental health.
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That's the space that I'm in.
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Okay.
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And so I was like, okay, this is a lot of proof that's building up.
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So, Mish, maybe this notion stands that men do need help, and this could be somewhere where, you know, you could help.
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And so I start going on um, I start going on the internet because I need to make sure that this message lands.
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So instead of judging the message and going, no, like I don't want to, you know, do it.
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I'm just gonna listen to the safety.
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I listened to that, I surrendered to that feeling and I started following this just bit by bit.
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And I became a scientist and I was like, Mish, just look at the data and see what you know social media shows you.
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And so I I go and get TikTok mentors or coaches because I have no idea how to be on social media at this stage of the game.
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Another thing about me, guys, is I'm inherently the way I think is quite masculine, meaning I will only do something if I think it's worth it.
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And this is men have this way of operating.
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And the reason they have this way of operating is because of their natural uh um predisposition of single focus.
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So men they focus on one thing at a time.
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It's not that they're not capable, it's just that this is how their body works.
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Okay, so they focus on one thing at a time.
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Women, they have they're able to focus on more things, and the reason for that is because we're scanning for safety all the time.
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It really means a lot to me and to the world I see being created by people who watch and support this Kings of Compassion movement for men.
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Now, if something in this conversation has landed for you, if you can feel something inside shifting, that's no mistake.
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That's a part of you resonating to some of the truth that you're hearing.
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You see, every moment you choose a new thought, every moment you choose a new way of doing things, you're creating a new reality, a new version of yourself.
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And when a man does this type of work, the people around him start to feel it.
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His family feels it.
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The way he provides, the way he shows up for himself, the way he loves his family, all of it responds because he made a new choice.
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That's what's available for you on the other side of your old belief systems and programs.
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And so for men, they only do things that they consider are worth it.
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So for me, that's the same thing, and I don't really want to do things that aren't worth my time, and so I want to learn as much as I can from people who have done it before or who are at least in this industry and are learning themselves, so I can speed up my process.
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I always get my own coaches and mentors in whatever I'm trying to do because I'm I'm lazy like that.
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I just I want to speed the results up, okay?
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And so I get these coaches and they say to me, Mish, we're going on TikTok.
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And I'm like, guys, I'm gonna get annihilated.
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I'm telling you.
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And they're like, Mish, it's not gonna happen.
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Just test it, see what happens.
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I started my journey on TikTok in 2025, it was the end of March, 28th of March, I remember, 27th, something like that, of 2025.
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And within four months, July, I was over 100,000 followers on TikTok.
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I'd had literally hundreds of messages, thousands of comments, and millions of views on these videos that I was doing daily.
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And that's just the data telling me, wow, okay, this is a thing.
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It's a thing.
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The markets, you know, the social media was giving me that real-time feedback.
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And I also want to draw your attention to the fact that men are single-focused, so for them, they're always doing this worth it calculation.
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If they're gonna follow someone or actually take an action like like or go to the level of writing a comment, they've got to think that it's worth it.
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And so as I started to contemplate the respect of the people that are on the other side of these likes and these views and these comments, they're real humans.
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They're real humans sharing time to speak about whatever it is that they feel this video is evoked in them.
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And so this to me was phenomenal.
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And so as I start to get clients and I start to, you know, see men come through the New Man Codes program, start to see epic results, um, I start to widen my marketing strategy and I move to Instagram.
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I've been on Instagram, I started at the beginning of 2026, June, 2026, this year.
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I'm filming this on the 29th of August.
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So that's a full just about three months.
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I was on 132 followers at the beginning of June.
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And by the end of August, which is now, I'm on over 8,200 or something on Instagram.
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This is data from an objective point of view.
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This is data showing me, and if you've ever tried to grow an Instagram account, you'll know how tricky it is.
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That's exponential growth, really, really fast, telling me that the message is being validated, that men are responding to this, that men who have single focus will only do things that are worth it, like like, comment, say, hey, send me some information.
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Okay.
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There's hundreds and thousands of views, comments, likes, all these sorts of things.
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And so, again, it's just looking at information that's coming back from the field.
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And so I'm still contemplating this idea of a woman's planning, and then I start to read the comments.
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Like I said, 5% are the hey, Mish, don't go down this route.
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But then I start to read comments like Mish, being in your presence has changed my life.
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The way I relate with my partner, with my kids, it's incredible.
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Guys that have started the coaching program and completed it with me, their kids are saying, Um, Dad, it's awesome to have you back.
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Guys are making more money after spending three months in the program with me.
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There was one young man who commented on a TikTok video, and again, if you do a program, I actually go through this and I'll show you the validity of the messages here, how important this is.
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There's a young man who commented on my TikTok and said, I was contemplating taking my own life until I watched this video about learning, Mish, that these are stories in my head, and I understood that was just a story, and so I decided not to take my life.
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I never met the dude.
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Powerful.
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I've had men say to me, Mish, nothing feels as good as the way I'm living now, applying the tools that you've taught me.
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Nothing feels as good.
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I will not go back to that life.
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I've had men tell me, I didn't know that this level of peace I could access.
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I didn't even know it existed, Mish.
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And just this week I had someone, a client say, start off our session today and say, Mish, I just wanted to share my appreciation for the work we've been doing together.
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I haven't felt this happy in my life in a very, very long time.
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And so I was starting to think, okay, well, so maybe, Mish, this work that you're doing and the differentiator that you bring is that because you're gay, because you have experience with both men and women, because you've run a business and know what it's like to be betrayed, because you've worked in corporates and negotiated million-dollar deals, because you've been a world-class World Cup athlete, right?
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And I was like, well, what else has influenced me?
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Because I've done all those things, which is, you know, those belong to me, but I've also stood on the shoulders of giants and not judged where this wisdom has come from.
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And I want to speak to a few of the people that I've learned from that have without a doubt, influenced my life.
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One of my first notable business mentors was Mike Harris.
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Mike created First Direct Bank Egg credit card, which was the first online credit card in the UK, and First Direct was the first online bank.
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Mike had a couple of other businesses, extremely successful.
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Mike was the one who taught me that in business you look at your feelings first before you take an action.
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Mike was the one who taught me that when I was betrayed by my ex-business partner, he said, Michelle, don't think that there's not any more opportunities out there.
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They're coming.
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Mike was the one who taught me to get up after I had lost my best friend in a car accident and six weeks later been betrayed by my business partner.
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He was a man and he was a lot older than me.
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And I learned a ton of wisdom from just being in Mike's presence, paying for that wisdom.
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I was part of Seth Godin's ULT MBA.
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There was an incredible one-month course.
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Awesome people that I met, and I learned the capacity to do many things in a very short space of time and to do it at a good quality.
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I met my first client there, Jack Fellows.
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His testimonials on YouTube, check it out.
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Jack was part of that group that I studied with, and he became my first client.
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Awesome guy.
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I learned from Tom Barry.
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My gosh, Tom.
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I met Tom when he was in his 70s.
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He's now a little bit older.
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Tom used to be a Buddhist monk, and I learned about a lot of consciousness teachings from Tom and about what's happening in humanity and the whole process that we're going through.
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I learned from my ex-business partner who betrayed me.
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She was one of my greatest teachers.
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She was originally from Pakistan.
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I met her in the UK and we ran a business together for two years, and she taught me about energy, about consciousness, about the body and how we can heal.
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I learned from Edward Mannix.
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Edward Mannix taught me about the compassion key.
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And I'm a group, I'm a certified group circle leader.
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That's the highest certification you can get.
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Edward taught me how to use compassion to rewrite programs that are in our minds.
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So we can just change reality just like that.
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I learned from Jamie Wheel.
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He I also did a coaching program with him.
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He wrote the book Stealing Fire and he does consulting for many big firms across the world.
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Jamie talks about flow, and for me, I call that conscious.
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Like I learned so much from Jamie being part of his world for six months or a year.
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It's incredible.
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And now my mentor who's changing my life and blowing my mind, Melanie Ann Leia, she's incredible.
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Challenging me with questions like, Mish, are you respecting this gift that you've received of the Kings of Compassion movement for men?
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Are you respecting it enough?
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Are you respecting the men who take the time to click, like, say, hey, X, Y, and Z?
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So I'm being challenged by her.
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Other people.
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Tony Robbins, I've studied under.
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I've got a numerology numerologist, Kim.
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I studied Abraham Hicks from a very young age.
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Crimson Circle, Adamus, Greg Braden, Joe Dispenser, Vader Austin, Don Miguel Ruiz, Robert Bly, Lee Harris, Pam Gregory, Sabrina Wilde, Wilson Luna, Clinton Swain, Joe Rogers, Liz Wilde, like people that I'm learning tons from and continue to learn from.
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I don't judge the source or the gender.
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And then I started contemplating more, and I was like, Michelle, what have you learned from kids?
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I've learned from my niece when she was two years old.
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She used to pull the zip on a suitcase and she went zip and she went, like I learned the wonder of life and how to be present and just appreciate things like a zip.
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Like it was for her, it was, and for me, I couldn't understand how she was so mesmerized by this.
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It was like a it was a epiphany for me, really.
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I've learned things from my clients' kids who give us feedback off the work that my men are doing through taking the coaching program.
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Like, dad, thanks for, you know, it's so awesome to have you back.
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I had clients come to me who they wanted to resolve their relationship with their kids who had been rejecting them.
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And then I was considering, okay, so Miss, you've said you also learned from nature.
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I've learned from nature.
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I grew up in South Africa.
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I remember going on holiday and having to shake our shoes.
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We would go to the bush and we'd have to shake our shoes to check that there were no scorpions before we put our shoes on.
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It's freezing cold.
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You like want to get your shoes on so quickly, and you like shake, you shake your shoes so there's no scorpions.
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That's a lesson.
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Bum! Imagine I got stung.
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I've learned the power of the ocean.
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I got dumped one year and I landed up like smashing my kneecap and I was on crutches for three weeks.
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The power of the ocean, the power of the waves.
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I've learned the power of mountains on skiing.
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I landed up breaking my leg there, taking off, taking off the mountain by snow patrol.
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I've learned the power of pressure when I'm underwater scuba diving 40 meters below the surface, and how to respect that.
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Learned so many, so many things from nature.
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And then I was like, okay, what other humans?
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I've learned about heartbreak from ex-boyfriends, ex-girlfriends.
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I've learned things from my parents, I've learned things from my brother, I've learned things from my extended family, from the family that I don't even see, that the family that I've never met, through my ancestors I've learned.
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Lessons to me, they come from all over.
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And so what that then led me to was this conclusion, which is something that I learned very early on from Tom and Sidra when I started to understand and I was asking myself the question well, why the hell are we here, anyways, as a soul in a body?
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And the reason why we're here is to learn Earth is the Harvard of the cosmos, it is the greatest school you can ever be part of.
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And so I learned very early on to not judge where these lessons are coming from, because every single one of them are sacred and precious.
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And so I learned to remain open, to keep myself curious, so that I don't cloud myself and say, Well, this lesson's coming from a man, I'm not gonna do it.
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Because when I quiet my mind enough, I can hear those gentle whispers, which were, we want you to work with men.
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The name is Kings of Compassion.
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And I was like, whoa.
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But I kept an open heart and I started taking the steps, just one step at a time, and seeing what was reflected back to me.
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Lessons, lessons, lessons, lessons, lessons.
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And so this kind of brings me to the mission as to why I keep doing this.
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Because there are times where I get these messages about women's splaining, and I understand.
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I had to convince myself.
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I was the first person I had to convince.
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I understand.
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And then I ask myself, Michelle, why the hell are you still doing this?
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Because I believe that I was put on this planet to work with what I call architects of the new earth.
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Men who give a shit, founders, entrepreneurs, people who own their own businesses, high-performing men who give a shit, who care, and they say, enough is enough.
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I don't want to live in this old world anymore.
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Neither do I.
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Let's go and create something new.
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And I say this all the time: it's a world so beautiful that people that are looking at this world, they can't help but notice the beauty here and want to join that beautiful world.
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So when the leaders on this planet they host a war, people are gonna say, Fuck that, I'm not joining that war.
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You go fight your own war.
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I'm not doing it anymore.
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And they exercise that free will and that choice.
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Because they don't think they don't have a choice.
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You do.
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We all have a choice, we always have a choice.
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And they choose the more beautiful world where the architects of the new earth are building this new world that we're gonna be moving into.
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Those are the people that I want to hang out with.
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That's the world I want to be part of, and those are the men that I work with, the guys who give a shit.
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And so I just wanted to close off this video by asking you, what have you learned from listening to this video?
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What wisdom have you picked up?
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And let me know in the comments where you have picked up wisdom from unlikely sources.
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I'd love to hear.
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Because then I could learn more as well.
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And so, to anyone who's still of the idea that this is a ridiculous notion, I'm gonna end off with this.
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One of my greatest teachers is Alison Armstrong, a woman.
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She's been studying men since 1991, and she's done an incredible job of looking and breaking down what it is, the instincts of men, the instincts of women.
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And through her and the other teachers, it's led me to be a better person, to show up and to believe that this work with men is worth it and it's important.
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And so to all the great giants that I've stood on their shoulders, thank you.
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And it's also my intention to become one of those giants so that the kids that are coming behind us can stand on our shoulders and pick up the wisdom that we leave behind.
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And so, if you've enjoyed this podcast, remember to like, to subscribe, drop a comment, let me know how you found it.
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I'll also put links below to subscribe to my email.
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And I do read every comment, guys, so keep them coming.
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I appreciate it.
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That's it for now.
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Have a super day, and we'll catch you on the next solo cast.
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Take care.