Lis Dingjan on systems thinking as a response to the climate crisis

Lis Dingjan has a background in design, international development and law, and community building. She splits her time between several organisations she founded - the experience design studio Identity Division, a community centre in Cambodia, a social enterprise Nowhere and Everywhere where she advocates for climate change, biodiversity, systemic issues, waste and climate justice, and Skwoodle, a children environmental and social teaching platform.

With Lis, we talked about nurturing creativity, the shift to new business models, ecogrief, friendships in times of climate crisis, the population debate, space mining, and the greenwashing of Amazon.

Full transcript and references mentioned in this episode:

• Lis Digjan's profile
• Nowhere & Everywhere
• Skwoodle
• Identity Division
• Extinction Rebellion
• Doughnut Economics, Kate Raworth
• The Handmaid's Tale (TV series), based on the novel of the same name by Margaret Atwood
• The future of commercial space travel is almost here with the latest SpaceX launch, Vox
• Secret Amazon Reports Expose the Company’s Surveillance of Labor and Environmental Groups, Vice
• Capital in the Twenty-First Century, Thomas Piketty
• Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World, Anand Giridharadas
• Octomom, Radiolab Podcast
• The book of time, Mary Oliver