Passport Problems, Homewreckers, and Grandma’s Dark Secret

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[SPEAKER_03]: M-S-S-W-M-D-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E
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[SPEAKER_03]: You cock your head like a confused dog.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you go, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if I even don't sound right, I'm in the middle of an empty apartment doing my last podcast of my last, at my old place before we hook up a ton of the fun everyone, we knew it was coming.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm naked and I'm free, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some name right, some name right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you see a small naked black woman in the history, just say hello to Francis,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of something ain't right, I saw this and I'm so glad you put this in here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The view co-host attacks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the word attacks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caitlin Jenner over Passport issue says there's a special place in hell for her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's play that audio.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So everybody can hear it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Point to quote trans advocate Janetta Johnson who said this in 2015.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jenner is a rich white bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She can pay for everything she needs, but I think she now needs to put some of that money back into the transgender community as she has taken a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All these years, we have been abused and battered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she has used none of her power to help the community and bring about change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, Caitlin Jenner, girl, Crimea River, let me play my little violin for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trans Jenner, the changing the marker on the passports is a executive order that he signed on day one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On day one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you think that he didn't know what he was doing, if you think he wasn't fulfilling a campaign promise because that's you say he absolutely exploited this issue in order to get people to the polls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's a special place in hell for people who only care about themselves and don't care about the effect on others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If she's saying that this is a safety issue traveling internationally with the wrong marker on her passport, imagine what the safety issue is for people who are not celebrities who don't have access to the White House and we don't have money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bam.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have to call up biscuit making when it happens.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have to call out these Noah count.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no sort of morals, nor sort of ethics or principles, bakers who are sitting around making biscuits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You go make some trans biscuits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what you're
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[SPEAKER_03]: I cannot, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't,
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[SPEAKER_03]: to compartmentalize, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: She, you know, she, her knowledge is global, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Does it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't divide these things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I've come close, but I've caught myself, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like once, I started to tell Francis that all of her friends were really annoying, but I didn't get through the word annoying before my brain went, girl, let's see you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You wanted him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You may be calling me, you might be the best one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like spaghetti, because my prey was like, no, you cannot compartmentalize that way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so generally, apparently, 76 year old former Olympian, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want to dead name you because it's wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She says her identification listed her as M despite having all of her passport, despite having all of her other legal documents updated to reflect her transition.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because she wants her documents to, you know, well, this is out of this store for gender.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a quote, and I agree with her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Today, documentation is extremely important.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every time you turn around, you got to show idea, idea, idea, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was on Tommy Lairn's podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what she'll say with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Complaining.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Officials ought to say, so somebody in my position who has
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[SPEAKER_03]: I worked very, very hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I worked with a law firm to make sure everything was changed from M to F right down to my birth certificate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All my documentation was right, my passport, my global entry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I traveled around the world, she said, she said, I did everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she added that she mailed a hard copy of her amended birth certificate and they sent it back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: M, they didn't change it on her past sports at the State Department.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, let me, let me get this right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, please go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think is going on?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The administration that you support to this day, even in this complaint.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Isn't respecting your personhood?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, no, you get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's wrong because she worked very hard as opposed to all those lazy trans people who apparently didn't do enough work or black people or Latinos or women or firm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't know kind of work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She says what she's saying is, and you know what, let me call that like I feel it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That white man is showing Caitlin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You spent your whole life hiding who you were.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Suppressing who you were.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I am sorry that we live in that world that you are perpetuating with your every breath dollar and action.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have fought for your ability to be you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what did you do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You turned around and said, well, as long as I can be me, that's fine, but nobody else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because what she's saying is she called Trump.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's been trying to reach Trump, but suddenly, his phone ain't answering, you know why you trans and they do not care about you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And let me take a one step further, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because she ain't even got to go outside herself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's by and herself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's a person, herself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hello.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't question about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And complain about it while she is stepping on her own neck, which is a feet, it is a feet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see people in yoga who are really good and they can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, but she is the person cutting off her own oxygen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She, the first place before she calls the State Department,
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[SPEAKER_03]: She needs to call on herself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's to call on herself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hello, we've got, I've got a message for you, Caitlyn.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's from Caitlyn.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Stop with the person.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caitlyn.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right, but you ain't been to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can tell you that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Never.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Still ain't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me tell you something with all the work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All the work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's done on herself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're on this right wing horrible podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's basically saying, I can't reach the president for some reason.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I have his number.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I should be able to reach him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm gonna go out here and complain about this publicly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause then maybe he'll hear and he'll fix it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's not an ounce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: of shame or irony in her irony, she believes that she is righteously complaining that she is not being recognized for her gender and she had the nerve to be like, what do I do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a safety factor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, are you concerned about your safety?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Your safety, your Caitlin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caitlin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Katelyn safety, you know, we can't sleep until Katelyn safe y'all, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was in Marlaga two months ago, you know what, lady, this is where I get mad about the FCC.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I wrote a letter explaining all of this to him, meaning Trump, how it's affecting me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of other people, oh, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some other people got in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of other people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a kind of a throw away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, he wasn't there that weekend.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which is odd.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good, I will give you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because he is there a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, wait, wait, timeout.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he was, you know, you, we all know he was there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he'd be like, okay, then I'm not here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She said the secret service guy said he could get it to him, put it on his desk and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she goes, I haven't heard from him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's kind of busy right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is he?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is he though?
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[SPEAKER_03]: My gender marker is not big on the issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not blaming him whatsoever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I love what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, then why are we having this conversation?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why are we here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was in the bushes going just tell her not to still tell her I'm not here here, just you don't you know, I know Fash the ball and we're straight up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's I think it should be legal to smack Caitlyn.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just once not like leave a mark smack, but I think you should be able to just
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once net.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, this isn't even about at the end of the day about being cis or trans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You are 70 years, 76-year-old woman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that these people have any interest, have you not seen the Epstein files?
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[SPEAKER_03]: you don't exist in so many ways.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so many ways, like in so many ways.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And how dare you, how dare you use your position and privilege this flagrantly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And publicly, you're supposed to do this under the cover of night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're supposed to call.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what good women do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what good, good, biscuit makers do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't go out and scream about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who are you talking to?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's the, it's, it's the, it's the, it's the wealthy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She still thinks that that's her identifier.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's so interesting to me when somebody who is spent their life in the closet, but sort of outwardly privileged position.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm running into what it means to be a minority in this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Still not get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's a level of stupidity here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Obtuseness that is so it's beyond offensive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It really makes me say this person can't care for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know why I answer something, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be right back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back, I, oh my goodness, I had all kinds of feels about this story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know about any of this until I saw this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I've heard of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to hear of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is what's not right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The home record lawsuits that are rocking North Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, home record lawsuits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I had no idea that these existed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you did?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've never heard of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got family in the south.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So apparently a few states still allow a spouse to sue a home record for breaking the marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The case of the former Arizona senator and her bodyguard is what we're going to talk about here in particular.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is Kristen Sinema.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, girl, okay, let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, I am not keeping up with a lot of gossip because I was, let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was a little bit shook.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was a little bit shook.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying I hadn't heard about this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Until then, all right, I was like, I was just like, what's going on here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this is what I have happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She used to be a senator, Arizona, but she a problem in a trifling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: if you will.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, which is not illegal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In October 2024, Heather Amel found a message from another woman on her husband's phone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The message was, I missed you, playing my hand on your heart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It said, she decided to write back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you having a fair with my husband?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she texted from her spouse's phone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You took a married man away from his family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then Amel took a surprising step.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She sued, not her cheating husband, but the woman he was having a romantic relationship with, which was in fact Kristen Cinema, the former U.S.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Senator from Arizona.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Amel's husband, Matthew Amel, was employed as a security guard for cinema at the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now North Carolina, where the Amel's lived, is one of just a handful of states with a quote unquote home record law that allows the jilted spouse to sue a third party for damages for a marital breakup.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I had always heard about that growing up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like a mess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got a joke.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and it isn't just illicit lovers who might find themselves in the crosshite hairs, meddling in laws, persuasive friends, even a therapist or clergy member are all their gain.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is the thing that is really amazing to me, which is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and everybody out of your business, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because like, if you, I mean, you think about the amount of people who are enraged at their in laws or don't like them, or think of them as meddling or inside the relationship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's not even like a third member coming into the relationship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's crazy to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think it's interesting that saying using the legal system, using a lawsuit to say you want people out of your marriage, it seems like a really bad way to achieve that end.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, guys, if we're reading about your relationship now, like that's that is no longer private.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also, there's so many things you know, I encourage people to know the weapons they are wielding.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't just go wield it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It sounds good, but look at it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're going to get to it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get to it because you shouldn't be using it to win it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It shouldn't be exist.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, to win an alienation of affection claim as a new nation of affection.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's my new band name.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Totally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As it's legally known, a pint of must prove three points that there was a genuine quote-unquote love and affection between the spouses before the third party intervening, that this love and affection was alienated and destroyed, and that the defendant's malicious acts caused the loss of affection.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The plaintiffs don't have to prove that adultery was involved, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: As the alienation of affection claim covers emotional persuasion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And sexual affair is covered by another home record charge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Call of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is, I love this, criminal conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You had a criminal conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a really bad 80s from no conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, quote, it'll come to the station.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like I could see like not Manhattan transfer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very meant.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're sounding very meant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's meant for a reason.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there are people there advocates for this kind of
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[SPEAKER_03]: These kind of cases, they say it supports and strengthens the marriage, serving as a district for bad behavior.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, most states have scrapped them as relics of a distant pass in January the new Mexico Supreme Court banished lawsuits calling them an agronistic into humanizing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Utah has passed a repeal that is set to take effect next month.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And some lawmakers in North Carolina seek to follow suit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A bill introduced in the state Senate last spring seeks to establish both home record laws.
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[SPEAKER_03]: critics of homework or cases, they have no place in an era full of no fault divorce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They claim that the laws are widely abused as a blackmail tool in divorces in rich lawyers and let spouses who misbehave off the hook, treating them as passive objects with no agency.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this is Julie Mayfield, she's a Democrat North Carolina state senator who's a co-sponsor of the bill seeking the repeal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's an alienation of affection presumes this very simplistic arrangement where you are devoted to your spouse until some third person comes in and breaks it up and they can be blamed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that any therapist, any counselor, anybody who has been through divorce can tell you that for an affair to begin there is already likely a problem with marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want to, especially from people who I'm wondering who they voted for, allegedly want smaller government.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want
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[SPEAKER_03]: you want us to educate, yeah, your emotional ties.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, that's what you want to have happen in court.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So apparently a few other states, including Mississippi and South Dakota still allow such lawsuits, yet North Carolina, which doesn't limit the amount of compensatory damages that can be awarded.
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[SPEAKER_03]: remains the most aggressive battleground.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In a 2011 case, one of the largest home record suits in US history, a judge awarded 30 million to a woman who suit her husband's mistress, alleging that she had intentionally destroyed their marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In 2018, a judge awarded a jilted husband almost 9 million after he alleged that another man lured his wife away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Amen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So then this is their example, I thought this was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this man, John Vermiske, he's a trial lawyer who works these sorts of cases.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has about 30 alienation infection cases a year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, he said he estimates that there are more than 400 cases annually in North Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 99% involved relationship that is sexual in nature.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this is a quote from him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Take the class of case where you have a 28-year-old very attractive secretary who reduces a 65-year-old married man to get a better life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is appropriate on those occasions when you have done harm to take action.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I find this example problematic for answers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because this sounds a lot like a boss.
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[SPEAKER_03]: harassing the secretary, and you coming up with this far-fetched she seduced him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So she was attractive and young and that's all her life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know why the sexism, the whole conversation of it is is is is is horrific.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really do wish that people had better morals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really do wish that when I started dating some older woman in my life talk to me about cheating
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, in a righteous world, there should be no one who's willing to go and knowingly sleep with somebody else's partner or cheat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's my feeling and opinion in this world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody should be able to, I shouldn't know that my boss is married or my underling is married and be attracted to them and start a sexual relationship with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or anybody, that's my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I gotta say,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, that's between you, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's on the pinky, but that's not the law.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and I also just think that the underlying assumption here of a number of things, that the person that any, but you can in some way quantify or prove love, that you can in some way quantify or prove somebody to do somebody, how you can say that the seduce, there's a seduce or a seducey in among adults who don't work for each other in any way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just think it's so anacronistic and it really is about the law is essentially a first about women.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because women property, women were chattel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you induce a woman or a woman left a man, he had a right to compensation because he had just lost some property.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now they have just over the years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've now extended this to say, oh, women can also.
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[SPEAKER_03]: use this ridiculous law, but to do any, to take care of their emotional issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I find it, I find it so amazing to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there was a case in November that moved the, pardon me, move the home record laws into the 21st century digital era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: a jury-side with a woman who accused social media influencer, Brinek and Ard, who has nearly 3 million followers on TikTok, of breaking up her marriage by flirting with and learning away her husband after a riotous, which now I want to see this, jury trial and accusations that included flirtatious hair twirling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exchanging explicit videos and suggestive dancing in the bathroom of the marital home, the jury ordered Kenar to pay $1.75 million in damages.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, she's appealing the judgment claiming that the case harmed a reputation in cost or income.
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[SPEAKER_03]: On the stand, she said that she'd been called a stalker, a liar, and a Jezebel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Her own ex-husband then sued the man she had to fare with under the same home record claim.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that everybody was trying to get them a taste.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody trying to get a taste.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Trying to get a taste.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's my issue is that it's such a whole bunch of stuff about a
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, because what if I'm in that situation and I feel like I had 30 million dollars worth of damage done to me, right, but I can't, I can only get 30 dollars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I, I find it absolutely ridiculous that you, however you do emotionally to someone else, right, you hurt someone's feelings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they sue you and and because you know I had a friend who was going through a divorce and their partner former partner about to be former partner was clearly confused about what the proceedings are about and I think a lot of people are especially with no false divorce, but.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The court is not a good place to try to work out your emotional problems.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not here for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not there for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not there for you to get somebody to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know you want it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you listen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Objective third person to listen and go, you are right, and this person is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are human interactions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's art that easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are some easy ones like somebody stabs you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But when we talk about feelings, there's nothing we can, we don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: what's going on inside of relationships.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's subjective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what's going on inside the next person next to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or even ourselves, I think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The app to Hollywood, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm looking at this, and I'm like, when you start suing people, and in fact, there are 400 a year, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, why North Carolina that's insane like you guys don't have anything else to do Like seriously can I tell you what you need is a good night out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why some some therapy Maybe a little a little pot gummy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know but you need like this is never going this is not going to fill that hole You know what you should make your partner a t-shirt this says my wife will soon
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[SPEAKER_03]: make it where it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also, it's like, what's up with not holding?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you see the husband?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, relationships.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is always whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is always the situation where I'm looking at two women fighting over a man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've never understood Francis never in my life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know for a man, nothing gets me over you quicker than you not liking me, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That really does solve the problem for me or like, I'm a Brian, I was seeing a guy and I had some people in town that were super annoying and I asked him, I think I may have talked about it here before and I asked him if he would because I was working at Second City.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was, you know, in a show at night, if he would hang out with them and show them around and they were two
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's felt he told me later, he just thought it was really cool that I was so unthreatened and that I had sent him out with two attractive women, and I was like, why would that threaten me?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he just was like, well, I mean, they're two attractive women.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, sweetie, if you want them, you should go have them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If they want you to, you should absolutely go do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If that's on the, if that's on your menu, that will never hurt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That would never hurt my feelings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nor would it cause me to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Besides, go, oh, I dodged that bullet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is a problem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like because I'm like you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know two women who add up to all this so now go out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you that's right I don't understand I don't understand so Chris and cinema She but she gives food for this right and she said that I'm this is so interesting to me But the complaint alleged that cinema
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[SPEAKER_03]: had Matthew and Mel accompanied her on trips to Napa Valley in New York, and that she lavished him with gifts paid for psychedelic treatment, and an encouraging to bring MDMA or ecstasy on a work trip so she could, this is a quote, guide him through a psychedelic experience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to say something so nasty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what I want to say, I don't know if I want to know, and in her pool name, and that's what it's like a delic experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go happen, okay, that would be God, too, would be God, too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, it's shamanic down there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is so cute.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The defendant expressed to Mr. Mell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She keeps waking up during her sleep and reaching over for his arms to hold her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's at there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's on his hands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: through her punani.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just when he gets to the end of it, maybe he'll come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But not only is this very guy, his spirit and motel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a breadcrum from her, her situation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Back to your, his side to bed, girl.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to laugh
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but you want also I'm not mad at her because this is what she said.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She shouldn't have the ability to do this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen listen listen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What she said was oh, Chris and Settama's not gonna get a dime.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She ain't gonna get one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She ain't gonna have whatever life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he think he's gonna have
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[SPEAKER_02]: He ain't going to have that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, is that what this is?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is about, let me tell you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me tell you, I'm often to the sunset and live the night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that what it is?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's rage-pay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Rage-pay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe in punitive damages, particularly for medical malpractice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for other, you know, other illegal behaviors, you know, when people are terminated without cause or, you know, because for messed up prejudicial, prejudicial reasons or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like this is an area that if I were a judge, would you even want anything to do with these cases?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're coming for you, it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're coming down the river, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, this is just a hot mess of crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is a hot mess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of how much would you love to be called as a witness, though?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if I may see what I have, it was she came in one day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's wearing a lot of perfume more than I think it's appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she was falling right here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget that flirtatious, please.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was every twist of that hair was like, I will have sex with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't you want to have sex with me?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it was vulgar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The flirting with the hair.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't blit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She had dangerous wicked woman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Creaking of dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if she wick it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But next story, ex-model arrested by a Ventura police and reported causes White House stir.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That ain't enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw all of it and bring all the text.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this has been delicious.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm aware of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We get aware.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A Brazilian brought to the United States on an Epstein plane, an age 16, lashes out at the traffic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I brought to traffic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Saying she was betrayed by her friend, Melania.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Melania.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Melania.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Melania.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Melania.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In 2023, Amanda Ungaro, a Brazilian model who was brought to the United States on Jeffrey F. Sting's plane when she was 16, was trying to build a new life in South Florida with her teenage son, Thor removed from the modeling world she had grown up in New York.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thor removed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So two years later, Ungaro, 41,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, was bound in handcuffs and thrown into an immigration detention center.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miami-Dade where she spent three months of misery or what other people are going through.
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[SPEAKER_03]: before being abruptly transported to Louisiana and then deported back to Brazil, on Garro, a former diplomat in the first drop administration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, how we all in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How we have fallen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Came to the attention of police in April 2024 after authorities received an anonymous tip that she and her husband,
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[SPEAKER_03]: around Dr. Arajuro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a tip.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would actually be best another mistake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in the Bidi Bidi Bidi, this is either as a woman, she should go back to Brazil, I am a true American, her current husband, not Malania, not Malania, a Brazilian plastic surgeon were conducting a cosmetic procedures without a license at their wellness center in adventura.
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[SPEAKER_03]: her arrest by the police, led to her being deported to Brazil in October, Angaro claims her deportation was instigated by her former partner, get ready for it, y'all, Paolo's and Poli.
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[SPEAKER_03]: a long time Trump ally and Trump administration official.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She accused them fully of using his influence to pressure the United States Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement Ice to deport her to gain custody of their 16-year-old son and baby
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ms. Angaro, y'all guys, y'all gonna have a hill to pay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She don't, let me tell you something about her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the kind of person who she doesn't play according to some kind of propriety.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she's not worth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, ball through the wall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever it takes, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go, let's, oh, we don't do this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the problem, when I was going up and fighting was somewhere was female fighting gut violent, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you had to be careful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You couldn't step to the girl who had, you'd be like, you're talking mess, I mean, you're talking mess, oh, you're gonna jump, you're gonna jump and then you realize, oh, wait a minute, we're actually about to fight and she is reaching in her bag because she's got her Vaseline ready?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's taking care of her eggs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're talking about taping weapons to your hands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That person.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is what an orphan black.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not Russian rules.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not such a said Russian rules.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Russian.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Russian.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Russian.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Russian rules.
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[SPEAKER_03]: For some reason rules.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, see that's where you start.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You go on heavy what I like to call heavy apology to our time That's heavy like you know what I've been missing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have not been speaking correctly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love you You have got to reverse course with a quickness with a quickness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You thought you were just gonna have a little slap me around fights No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not with mislady
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[SPEAKER_03]: On Gara, who was part of President Donald Trump's and Melania social circle for years, issued a number of angry posts on X, X directed, let me tell you something, when you are at net the first lady,
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[SPEAKER_03]: to the point where you get her shook, you got my attention, so she, this is a quote, I will tear down your corrupt system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even if it's the last thing I do in my life, I will go all the way, I am not afraid, maybe you should be afraid of what I know of who you are and who your husband is, I was like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that wasn't a post that was dated April 8th.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She threatened legal action against the First Lady and quote, and Jorepet the file husband.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What?
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[SPEAKER_03]: To Bondi.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She said in a post, do you fully understand the information I possess regarding you and the individuals associated with you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I strongly advise you to consider this seriousness of these matters.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Any actions taken against me or attempts to escalate this situation could have significant legal consequences.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you may remember what happened on the next day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Her great serious serious.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you're going to take me serious outfit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when she's trying to act like she's a president, walk it out like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, buy the seal behind the seal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to say hey the first time I crossed past with Epstein was in the year 2000 at the University of Syria yet an event Donald and I attended together at the time I had never met Epstein and I had no knowledge of his criminal undertakings on Gera Angaro or Angara rather went on at her post after the ladies first the first lady's statement so she watched it and it was not it didn't do whatever it was
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because Amanda said, I have nothing left to lose in my life, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That same day, I will tear down the entire system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Be careful with me, bitch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, where was my popcorn?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where is it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It made you wish for the all-time WB.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Remember the whole audience every show was like, boo, boo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm just saying on Garo in a phone interview from Brazil confirmed that she had posted the remarks on X.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She said she felt betrayed by Melania with whom she had been friends for two decades.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: she said she had an expired visa and before her arrest, she had applied for a new one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She said she reached out unsuccessfully to Melania.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people have a trouble reaching them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They never arrived girl.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she learned that Zimpoly was responsible having her picked up and jailed by ICE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She spent three months in a minute, as we said, in a Miami detention center before she was deported.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Zimpoly, who is 56.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's 15 years old in her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's a former modeling agent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She met him when she was 17.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were together for nearly two decades.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They worked as diplomats in the first Trump administration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was a United Nations ambassador to Granada.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Zempoly was an ambassador to Dominican, both Caribbean nations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He now serves as a special envoy for global partnerships.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just keep making up these like, what is the, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, just making up titles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as I'm holy to the person who has said he introduced Trump to Malami, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so he was also appointed to the Kennedy Senator board and you as you know that's going really well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he reached out to a exemplary that is reached out to a top ice official and asked that on Garo be deported according to New York Times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Times reported that the official David Venturella called Ice's Miami office to ensure that agents would pick up on Garo from jail before she could be given bail.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the whole point was so that she could not have access to their teenage son who was going to go live down in Brazil with her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It went down there to live but then decided that he wanted to come back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is really
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[SPEAKER_03]: cool and crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, and I am here for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope I had heard supposedly like right after that choose supposed to do an interview on CNN that Tuesday, then I heard it was moved to Thursday, then I heard a girl on Garo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I have a feeling that either one of two things have
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[SPEAKER_03]: somebody has delivered her a bag's full of cash or she is some lawyer has found her and said, no, no girl, don't give it up to CNN.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get you, we're going to get you a bag.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But somehow, some way, somebody is paying her for what she knows, either to say it or to hold it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's my problem, Francis.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, to me, there's, we need to talk about her to being traffic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we need to talk about that, but we also need to acknowledge that all of these people are involved in the cover-up of an extremely disgusting international criminal child sex trafficking enterprise.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't tell me you were in this for 20 years and you don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so you're upset about how you've been kept from your child girl.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You are damaged.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they're all damaged.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, when we watched the first lady come out, and I mean, she was pale as a ghost.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was shocked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was shook.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And And her don't believe don't believe in people say about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not sleep with him today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it stops today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, if you smelt it, you dealt it, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then so what, what Angaro was being accused of also is it this convoluted, she and her partner had like a spa, a med spa, and it looks like they were doing a little, um, I do braces, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, that's what they're being accused of.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, true, it's allegedly, but of operating, um, a medical spa where they were giving procedures that they were not licensed to give.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and he's listed as a doctor instructor at the medspoil.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But she did the medspoil was in life and he wasn't licensed in the United States.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this is better than I do, braces in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It sounds like he does have the training someplace to do this, but not here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's what, that's sort of the background.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And nobody's papers weren't was legal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Her passport wasn't legal anymore, but you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And and I get it because you've been here for 20 years that you've been at the top.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why won't you have an, you know, any thought.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's never been an issue before, but you weren't in a custody battle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, with, with Trump's buddy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you know what, and I, this is my, my point and this is how I would look at it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Melania, I look at her and I go, she's bought and paid for too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's an object in this system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's a trophy wife.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why do you have an expectation that she's going to reach out to any one, anywhere and save your life?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But this is what, you know, you lay down with dogs to get, you get, please, do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: These people, there's no, you can't get in this orbit and not get dirty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's how it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Something ain't right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be right back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, y'all probably saw Trump's door-to-gramma.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, let me start with, you are creating this situation, Francis.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is quite clearly, he didn't call door-to-ash to come to the White House.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that your staging is, can I ask what genius thought to use a grammar?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're trying to show the justice of your policies, the justice, if you will, of your policies, if you're trying to show that you're trying to highlight not taxing tips, doesn't it seem like, for my perspective, you go for somebody, that it wouldn't be upsetting to necessarily see doing door-to-ache.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I feel like you get to a certain age and you should be able to be retired.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the inner if you will, the working parts of the story is exactly the reason why we see and saw who we saw.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's a political operative, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who has done what's not the, yeah, but that's not even done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That now was done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This kind of work for them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so what that says to me more so than the fact of anything is how tightly
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[SPEAKER_03]: they are working to control this political narrative.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That it can't just be a kid from, we, we order up a cute kid from door to ask, because we might get a Latina, we might get a black person.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We might get a, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We might not get a joe handy, joe diploma.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pam's not busy now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Put Pam in the outfit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that is, this, this is what I'm saying is this is about controlling that narrative and there's a reason why she was a boomer because that's who watches Fox.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's such a bad, it's their morning before anything else about like I think was this is tragic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is an elderly person who had to go to work as delivering person, making, you know, tip money to try, why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because her husband has cancer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and she they need money to for his treatment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This whole thing says to me, this system is whack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is broken and yet they used, as you're right, they use their operative who they feel like they can trust.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now this woman, by the way, that grandma, she's an anti-tax activist.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's done, as Francis said, she's played this role for them, the every woman role that, you know, what was in the plumber?
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[SPEAKER_03]: that Republicans, she's done this for Republicans on a number of different times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, apparently not only was this, of course, not a real delivery, but Simmons has not saved $11,000 on taxes from the policy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, she probably saved little to no money at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: DoorDash appears to have coordinated this public relations stunt to counter accusations that the company exploits its workers by manipulating labor laws and even stealing tips.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Instead, Simmons is a troubling example of how so many white working class Americans have been persuaded into voting against their own economic self-interest by Republican politicians, who promote dangerous myths centering on bootstraps and personal responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, and I want to remind everybody about the idea of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The reason why it was created because it's impossible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's physically impossible to pull yourself up by the bootstraps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yet, like every other aphorism, it gets misused.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what this article goes on to talk about is the internalization of these sort of toxic views and messages, things like pulling yourself up by your bootstrap, which is supposed to, and I think this is where we run into the racism of it all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The idea is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You are not lazy like the as Rick again popularized like the welfare queens.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're hardworking You work for your money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You make sure that you work hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You do whatever it takes to take care of your bills because you you just you're better than a lannister.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Lannister don't even work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why they're bills You and this mythology turns you into instead of somebody who's being duped and taking advantage of by this system If some set of people who are giving their very lifeblood
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[SPEAKER_03]: to the to enrich the one percent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You get to feel like a hero.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're simply putting up with it and trying to work harder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's testing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what, if this is where I have to stop and ask the question, if you will receive that from the ownership class as payment,
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[SPEAKER_03]: They'll gladly pay you with words, paying with a sermon that will modify your mind.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If that's the opiate, that you want to suffer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Down, they got shoveled mountains full, because it's nothing but air, dreams and thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She is internalized this view that it's okay for people like her to work their fingers to the bone, without any hope of actually getting ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Simmons spoke of having a quote, strong work ethic that was instilled in her by her parents, and this is where I got mad at her, who started bringing her to work when she was only four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Her 80 year old mother, she added, still works taking care of little children to cover life's expenses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: your 80-year-old mother has to still work and you are proud of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You think that makes sense and it speaks to how you are a good American.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You are being just wildly abused.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and here's my thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no problem with people working,
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[SPEAKER_03]: if they enjoy it, want to, want to be of you service, of community, you know, I just want to make sure that there's clarity in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, but you, but that isn't what she says.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's saying her mother is doing it to cover life's expenses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not, not because of a joy of children or being in the community or anything, but because she needs the money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what's frightening and that's all life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and did you see him try to rope her into a trans comment and be like, you know, aren't you against men's men playing in women's sports?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, I'm not here to answer that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was like, good for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good for I was like, she's sad here than he is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's not hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She, I don't know that he knows how to care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he seems really confused by the whole bag.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The gowns bag.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I usually just bring it to a monotry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I want to play this lot of you from Trump.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because this, this,
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is another level to this Sunday, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Earlier this week at the White House, I met a wonderful woman named Sharon Simmons, a grandmother driving door dash to help support her husband's cancer trip, and she's got serious cancer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to be okay, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sharon delivered McDonald's through the Oval Office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a little bit of a, you know, I mean, to be honest, a little tacky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they come up with these crazy ideas like McDonald's, although that was the biggest ever on Google.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They say number one ever in the garbage truck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we do these things in politics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're little embarrassing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a little tiny embarrassing, but we do them, and you win by landslides, you know, it's one of the, so we gotta keep to them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we gotta knock on the oval office door.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This does not happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the first, maybe, in the history of the oval office, and it was a very beautiful woman standing there with two big bags of McDonald's hamburgers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I say, it's really unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one thing for us is to learn to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't tell me you're lying to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't know, just, you know, yeah, to call it tacky to call out in front and have people laugh like, oh, we know, you're just you're just playing a scene, you're this is just propaganda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no truth to it at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not cute.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not funny.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: For me, you know, when I'm listening to people talking about the economy, talking about that we're in the middle of peace talks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, no, we're not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't believe anything this man says is the truth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There is no truth in this reality.
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[SPEAKER_03]: According to the Brennan Center, Trump has made about three billion dollars that we know of since returning to off of this, $3 billion in less than two years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, and somebody, someone near and dear, is insider trading.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, all of them, come on!
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know there's allegedly insire training legend all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a litter of a legendness, just litter, litter, a legend, a legend, a legend, all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just this kind of it is one thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to lie to us, to try to make us believe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's another thing to not only tell us or lying to us, but then do things like Trump trying to get through the government, the justice department, for who was a $250 million?
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[SPEAKER_03]: $50 billion?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think some of ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we can get a settlement, which is giving to him stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the levels of corruption and crazy, but to drag out this play actor, who is significantly deluded.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just in this most, the saddest way, just, I find this inability to see what's happening to you tragic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know why Angela?
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